excellent glam choice
#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
torn igloo
glossy hemlock
Didn’t they say the unnamed is the Watcher.
torpid yoke
Didn’t they say the unnamed is the Watcher.
they speculate it is
though the nerd is probably oschon
glass depot
Didn’t they say the unnamed is the Watcher.
||Thats what Krilie says before a cut to Deryk||
crystal arrow
||krile says it's the watcher||
glossy hemlock
though the nerd is probably oschon
Yeah
crystal arrow
||either deryk or the opo-opo is likely oschon||
glossy hemlock
Deryk even says he wandered alone idk
crystal arrow
||the epigraph mixed with deryk yet again talking about how he travels alone cements that||
glossy hemlock
||the epigraph mixed with deryk yet again talking about how he travels alone cem...
Yeahhh right like
primal basalt
yo i wasn't expecting sylphstep to have mechanics
glossy hemlock
Unless they are intentionally making it seem that way just to throw everything in the garbage and make someone else Oschon
crystal arrow
i mean
glossy hemlock
They really are making it seem like he’s Oschon
crystal arrow
deryk even looks like oschon
the one piece of art we have of him, the arrow
it looks like deryk
||since we know the twelve are sculpted by the perceptions of mortals....||
torpid yoke
||the epigraph mixed with deryk yet again talking about how he travels alone cem...
||And his ominous "im gonna disappear||
Like bro
XD
subtle pasture
Menphina be like ||"girl your elves literally made you feral."||
granite nimbus
torpid yoke
Me at deryk
pine epoch
inb4 6.5 ends with yshtola finding out how to shard travel. Goes to the first reunites with runar and she invites Runar to join her in traveling the shards to learn the secrets of the universe. and she disappears for like 4 years and comes back in like 8.5 to kidnap us to say "X shard needs our help!"
subtle pasture
Me at deryk
||"Well he sure likes his solitude,"||
||"AND OSCHON SHALL KNOW SOLITUDE."||
pine epoch
so 6.5 krile takes Yshtola place as our resident mage who is smart
glass depot
||I mean I'll be sad if Deryk is Oschon because he was barely talked to by the gods in the first quest series and it'd feel like a weird thing for the gods to obfuscate.||
subtle pasture
the entire post-raid arc is ||Menphina really taking the piss out of him, I love it.||
You think so? ||I definitely get the vibe Menphina was teasing him after the raid||
gleaming rampart
inb4 6.5 ends with yshtola finding out how to shard travel. Goes to the first re...
I'm on board for turning Y'shtola into Final Fantasy Dr Who
livid oracle
torpid yoke
You think so? ||I definitely get the vibe Menphina was teasing him after the rai...
"you're the most interesting pair"
Hmmmmmm
HMMMMMMMMMMMM
crystal arrow
||I mean I'll be sad if Deryk is Oschon because he was barely talked to by the g...
||they pretended to want to conquer the star and then played dumb while they followed us around to their own marks, they could keep up that ruse||
glass depot
||Yea it's a bit too much playing dumb for my tastes.||
Not that that's bad, just I personally would prefer a different direction.
crystal arrow
glass depot
||Either way, we're pretty sure Deryk is one of the gods so that's neat!||
primal basalt
||my money is that he's the thirteenth||
glass depot
||my money is that he's the thirteenth||
||Same!|| Either way, it'll be fun to see the outcome! Or watch something come out of left field, who knows.""
primal basalt
||kinda disappointed halone wasn't more of a valkyrie profile reference||
torn igloo
||they've been tilting heavily at the deryk is oschon angle but what confuses me a bit is the opo-opo. ||
earnest vine
||you KNOW that opo-opo is hiding something||
subtle pasture
Since someone brought it up before, here's a set of quick and dirty guesses at Twelve-Convocation parallels:
||Byregot = Altima
Rhalgr = Lahabrea
Azeyma = Emmerololth
Nald'thal = Emet-Selch
Nophica = Halmarut
Althyk = Nabriales/Deudalaphon?
Halone = Pashtarot
Menphina = Mitron
Thaliak = Igeyorhm
Nymeia = Loghrif
Llymlaen = Fandaniel
Oschon = Azem
The Watcher = Elidibus||
oh thanks discord, eh w/e
torn igloo
interesting
subtle pasture
that looks better, graphic design is my passion.
torn igloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11AqmGmcyUo
diving deep into opo-opo lore
this quest is hilarious
dim nest
Where is Eureka Orthos
timber lichen
i just realized menphina looks like a kid bc in greece eros is a little baby
torn igloo
Where is Eureka Orthos
march
mystic sinew
Sorry doing some channel reorg locking this briefly
hallow pollen
Second
shy sandal
there we go lol
mortal kernel
dang it
knotty flicker
Dammit
rare sinew
MUAHAHAHAH
shy sandal
ty Venae ❤️
gentle temple
Rude
gaunt star
Guys I make one joke spoiler and then this happens
pine epoch
Dammit
gaunt star
This is why I don’t talk lmao
sterile moat
🤔
knotty flicker
Heck
floral aurora
M not first :(
sterile moat
wait
rare sinew
I dont care. Got first. Thats me done for this expac
unreal raft
hallow pollen
Sooo where to find the new legendary gatherer items? Same like the current legendaries?
leaden spindle
wait, are servers up already?>>
gaunt star
formal niche
sterile moat
why make another channel and not just rename the old one?
crimson pollen
not yet
rustic kestrel
no @leaden spindle
gaunt star
do we know what new items we are geting an achievment vendor btw?
rare sinew
First for Punished SMNs
knotty flicker
So....that new trial boss is pure HYPE
gaunt star
Was gonna say
leaden spindle
oh you made me scared at first
crimson pollen
I want to see Hunt madness in first days
rare sinew
Can someone do a linky of datamined gear?
shy sandal
@gaunt star just 1 that I can see, the item from the flying chocobo quest
floral aurora
Summoners are still good even with the nerf, you'll see :)
gentle temple
Does the other channel need to be closed? Wouldn't it make more sense to leave it open for non mining discussion o.o?
mortal kernel
SMN still king for sure
rare sinew
I wanna take a good look at some of the Nier and dungeon gear
floral aurora
Better be the last nerf
wary perch
warped barn
rustic kestrel
wary perch
The msq after 5.3
shy sandal
i think i'ma head to bed, i'll catch up on patch way later
formal niche
The SMN nerf isn't really too hard of a hit
gaunt star
the only spoiler you need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR2-NAiPZsE
shy sandal
spoiled myself on it so FML T_T
wary perch
Into the fire!!!
formal niche
They're still better off by a good deal than they were even at the start of the expac
sterile moat
anyways, @swift kraken you were saying that saying half of the toolkit isn't niche. Med I, med II, cure I, cure II, cure III, thin air, regen, even with your case scenario all barely see casts on shb savage
crimson pollen
Damn... Expecting tons of disappoint|| "Elidibus"|| threads in forums/reddit/gamefaqs, from players who thought he'd get a expac dedicated. Plus, Yoshi kinda trolled hard saying it'd be na unexpected trial and it's exactly the most obvious.
rare sinew
Remember his shirt?
gaunt star
Oh I didn’t even think about the new Nier stuff and what it may look like
knotty flicker
No the WoL lol. From ||FF1||
sterile moat
i'm not even talking of high tier since even myself doesn't use those skills
limpid cairn
Whelp. I was half hoping they'd be generous and give us Flight Unit mounts for NieR but I guess I can wait. And hope they will come...
frigid osprey
so
pure thorn
||I mean i didnt expect the WOL from ff1||
frigid osprey
smn nerf statistically
pure thorn
||iexpect Ardbert||
bright sky
maybe i'm doing something wrong but in the model viewer
the model just remains a silhouette
anyone know how to fix?
pure thorn
but yea
leaden spindle
oh this is for dataminining right?
frigid osprey
in extreme high-level play (For speed) it can actually be up to about 500 nerf
rustic kestrel
early math says 1-2% yeah
frigid osprey
for the more average player it'll be closer to 300-350
swift kraken
gaunt star
It’s a pretty significant nerf
sterile moat
you were on lore spoilers
frigid osprey
tldr yeah 1-2%
civic stream
So are the 3 relic weapons making rounds right now fake?
knotty flicker
I really don't see how fighting the original ||Warrior of Light|| from ||Final Fantasy I|| could be considered a disappointment.
sterile moat
fine
lyric field
significant to the point of being the reason for the nerf
dusty thorn
have the new boss names been revealed?
gaunt star
Nor do I
unkempt bloom
unkempt bloom
blade of light
pure thorn
hey lore spoiler is back again
gaunt star
Oh yeah it isn’t going anywhere
onyx sundial
WERRE ARE THE GLAMS
pure thorn
which is which
formal niche
SMN always slaps
gaunt star
Neither is Bard
leaden spindle
limpid cairn
can anyone post the mounts from the datamine?
formal niche
They're not gonna be tanking down the parse hierarchy with just that nerf
onyx sundial
ooooooh
frigid osprey
i dunno personally this is enough to make me think about learning BLM
lyric field
youi should learn blm
formal niche
My brother was saying they could remove all potency from that spell and they'd still be damn strong
lyric field
if not for anything other than reverse rescue
rustic kestrel
well it's not JUST a ||"wol from Ff1"||, he uses a lot of skills ||of each specific job, like cures, drg jumps etc||
frigid osprey
i refuse to let my sam friend beat me lmfao, i have an 80 blm that i can bring up to BiS pretty easily with how easy 500 gear will be to get
rare sinew
NOOO
unkempt bloom
lyric field
aetheric manipulation is such a good skill
unkempt bloom
globe of light
rare sinew
WHY SO DUMMY
hasty totem
The main strength for SMN isn't because of Tri-D
hallow pollen
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742646107691024444/Capture.PNG ast weapon
@unkempt bloom from where?
unkempt bloom
the trial @hallow pollen
frigid osprey
main strength for smn is consistency imo
hallow pollen
OOF
gaunt star
The worst part about pugging savage are the seven adds
rare sinew
but everyone else gets the fancy schmancy buttons
hasty totem
The attachment of on-landing damage made it strong yes but that's just one small contribution of what makes SMN "broken"
rare sinew
NUUUUUUUUUUUU
crimson pollen
Any further revelations about Venat yet or left for future things?
hasty totem
@formal niche I'll argue that the main reason is because they changed the pet damage scaling
knotty flicker
I'm gonna wear this against the final boss for sure then.
hasty totem
You're essentially playing 2 jobs in one
unkempt bloom
lyric field
i really wish they'd make pet scaling clearer
formal niche
They're gonna convert SMN to an Esper-style class
Where they merge with egi aether and go all Terra and nuke shit
gaunt star
On this episode of “not gonna happen”
upper spruce
isnt pet ai a bit whack
rancid swift
whats new theyre monk weapons
leaden spindle
these weapons look decent but nothing fancy imho
warped barn
garleans gonna do it first they had an esper in bosja in the trailer
paper zealot
where do you get the mch weapon?
unkempt bloom
the ex trial
sick moon
Wait so my understanding is ||the new trial is against the ff1 WoL, who multi classes, and not an ascian?|| That's kinda screwy.
rare sinew
Looks very ornate
blissful drift
relic wap video are real or fake one ?
hasty totem
Is SMN's nerf warranted? Likely, considering it's threading the BLM threshold now but is 150 too much? hardly
2% nerf is not as bad as people would think
formal niche
Yeah, SMN is still sitting almost exactly where it is now
leaden spindle
anyone knows what level are the new ex weapons? 505?
rustic kestrel
||it's an ascian, elidibus, possessing ardbert the wol|| @sick moon
orchid bloom
495
gaunt star
495
hallow pollen
Wait so my understanding is ||the new trial is against the ff1 WoL, who multi classes, and not an ascian?|| That's kinda screwy.
@sick moon I wonder how the lore will explain that
unkempt bloom
this is the monk weapon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742645239201923134/Capture.PNG
leaden spindle
oh
gaunt star
Why 505
rare sinew
Yo
leaden spindle
idk
knotty flicker
Fighting a powered up version of the ||OG Warrior of Light|| sounds like the coolest thing ever though
rare sinew
that MNK weap slaps
gaunt star
Just don’t bother doing savage
sick moon
Ohhh gotcha Vis
unkempt bloom
no it dont
paper beacon
it's not 505
unkempt bloom
the ninja weapon looks better
paper beacon
it's i495.
dusty thorn
what's the name of the pink-haired boss?
gaunt star
Yeah we said that
unkempt bloom
i can get one for u
hasty totem
150 is generous, Flie
rare sinew
but how pretty is that book
unkempt bloom
gimme a sec
hasty totem
I'd say lower it down to 120 even
rare sinew
Like, we talking scaeven level fancy?
lyric field
is the ||red dragon/gwybbler|| from new ishgard ranking, or just turn ins
unkempt bloom
Index ||of light|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742644884682571786/Capture.PNG
blissful drift
ugly
rare sinew
meeehhh
ember tulip
have the bunker bosses been datamined?
hallow pollen
Those weapons deffo don't slay
shy sandal
oh, idk if anyone answered but I saw someone ask earlier. Yes there are new crafting/gathering gear. Tools and equipment. Item level 490. 2 slots + overmelding allowed, so woo
rare sinew
I hope there's effects
crimson pollen
it's only the model of|| ff1WOL||, but it's ||Elidibus||, confirmed by the trial objective
paper zealot
theres any leak of how the new trial called?
shy sandal
tools + equipment
rare sinew
so how does the NIN gear look?
shy sandal
i490 stuff
crimson pollen
@paper zealot ||Seat of Sacrifice||
gaunt star
seat of sacrifice @paper zealot
leaden spindle
so the trial boss we would have never guessed which one it is is actually the one everybody thoguht as obvious?
sick moon
Almost 2 hours left til showtime yall!
hallow pollen
The Chocobo barding from the trial lol "||A suit of chocobo armor designed to resemble an ancient hero not wholly unlike yourself.||"
paper zealot
thanks, and the boss himself?
raw sphinx
SMN nerfs aren't a spoiler
formal niche
Man, I do feel bad for SMN and SCH generally
floral aurora
Curious how long this story is going to be
crimson pollen
@leaden spindle Yeah... basically. I mean, even if the model is cool and all, in essence it's still the most obvious thought.
gaunt star
@paper zealot ||Elidibus as FF1 WoL||
mossy flame
anyone got the male 24 man gear?
formal niche
Every patch they really don't have much to look forward to weapon-wise unless it's a cool relic glow
floral aurora
Maybe I should make breakfast
formal niche
"Oh boy another book"
nova olive
Hey, does anybody have the Album for the Nier Raid Male gear?
knotty flicker
In hindsight yeah the final boss is almost insultingly fitting. Like a middle finger to the WoD
gaunt star
knotty flicker
How do we get that mount???
formal niche
What's that sexy, sexy sword
tired bear
yes how q w q
formal niche
candid nova
is there a pick of the nin weap?
shy sandal
ohboy, new crafting food
lyric field
@formal niche it's ok for sch, we got O12S book /sweat
gaunt star
probs mogstation
gaunt star
Hellhound gunblade
shy sandal
+72CP +70 Control for HQ
floral aurora
Yeah I want to know how we get that cool mech mount
ocean pelican
does yshtola die
knotty flicker
Well hopefully it goes to mogstation quickly
hallow pollen
Ehll Tou will be a mount, that's so cute
unkempt bloom
rare sinew
ehhh..
formal niche
Eh.
paper zealot
what is the bard weapon ?
knotty flicker
Its sharp
hallow pollen
Those are underwhelming xD
lyric field
and as cheezy as it is, i really like the HW smn relic
crimson pollen
They should've made it Auron final trial to hit them X feels
mortal kernel
anyone have like a to-do list of what to knock out when servers are up btw
formal niche
Keep in mind a lot of these look a lot shittier without proper lighting
keen pagoda
the warrior weapon is pure sex
weary lagoon
Is there full on data mining happening atm?
lyric field
scroll up in #archived-lore-spoilers
pure thorn
||us fighting WOL from ff1 who is in Ardbert body which looks like the OG WOL from the 1.0 stuff be like "i am the OG WOL, you are the OG WOL, we all are WOLs. We all OG WOL on this fine day||
rare sinew
MSQ -> Nier -> New trial -> Dwarves
knotty flicker
If you want some real X feels read FFX-2.5 lol
unkempt bloom
this is rod of light, so i'm guessing the black mage weapon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742644739450601492/Capture.PNG
dusty thorn
what's the gnb trial weapon look like?
gaunt star
^
unkempt bloom
lemme see
weary lagoon
New main scenario quests have been added. The Crystarium (X:12.5 Y:16.2)
Chronicles of a New Era quests have been added. Kholusia (X:34.7 Y:18.2)
The Sorrow of Werlyt. The Lochs (X:11.3 Y:22.5)
Dwarf tribe quests have been added. Kholusia (X:15.7 Y:30.3)
A new trial has been added. Players must first complete the main scenario quest "???"
crimson pollen
@knotty flicker >.<
unkempt bloom
paper zealot
waiting to get disappointed from bard weapon
old basalt
Is it possible to find the location of ||Blue Crab||?
dusty thorn
wtf is that
knotty flicker
@crimson pollen 
hallow pollen
WTF that's a double gunblade
unkempt bloom
its the gunbreaker weapon
dusty thorn
ugly :(
pure thorn
you have 1 gun
dusty thorn
what about DNC
pure thorn
now you get another gun
pure thorn
i heard you like gun so we put another gun on your gun so you can gunfight with your gunbreakers
hallow pollen
Do you know where I can find the new unspoiled nodes?
blissful drift
every of these weapon give me some ocular cancer .
fallow plank
Are all 3 crafted primal weapons coming in this patch? This seems too good to be true.
hallow pollen
Are all 3 crafted primal weapons coming in this patch? This seems too good to be true.
IKR!!!
pure thorn
why lmao
knotty flicker
That's a bow all right
pure thorn
its not even 5.3 yet
unkempt bloom
hollow cargo
They skipped Zurvan again 😦
unkempt bloom
quiver
pure thorn
save the sad for another 2 hours
last sequoia
@fallow plank until you find out no dnc/gnb weapon 😭
paper zealot
the back look not that bad
fallow plank
RIP
weary lagoon
New bard weapon? I quiver with anticipation
spare axle
hey guys
unkempt bloom
dancer weapon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742650585479643216/Capture.PNG
rare sinew
oooo
spice vessel
Does anyone know if the Allagan Melon is actually in the game or just the files?
rare sinew
not too bad
spare axle
whats the new crafted primal weapon? which primal got iced out?
pine epoch
Is there a list of orchestrion rolls being added that I can look at
paper zealot
i just hope to see more 🏹 users after this patch
knotty flicker
DNC looks nice actually
crimson pollen
Expect full day of ppl of random thread "but i thought we would use blessing of darkness...", "but ||elidibus|| why?" tellin
hollow cargo
Tsukuyomi, Suzaku, Seiryu
bright sky
someone linked this one earlier but where is this from?
is it new hellhound or?
spare axle
all 3?
pure thorn
PvpP
azure garnet
ew
still thunder
hellhound nin dagger
spare axle
@hollow cargo all 3?
paper zealot
if the wol from ff1 is the boss what is that mecha in the trial image?
hollow cargo
That's what the datamines were saying
pure thorn
i mean you get to pilot it
tepid wadi
So chances of getting hellhound armor in next season?
spare axle
omg nice
knotty flicker
Ok I guess we're just saying the name then xD
hollow cargo
Dunno if they were just added to the game files or added for real real though
paper zealot
is the game became evengalion now?
pure thorn
not sure if its against ||elidibus|| or sth else tho
hollow cargo
but it sounds like for real real
leaden spindle
we're piloting a mecha in Werlyt so
pure thorn
skype call with Cid
dusty thorn
what's the trial with the pink-haired woman
pure thorn
social distancing and what not
lunar oar
Are these golden weapons from trial?
misty burrow
dunno if anyone posted
crimson pollen
Are you winning, son?
misty burrow
full music list
leaden spindle
yes
hollow temple
@tepid wadi It would be much harder to release another recolor of hellhound than it is for a mount lol , Since we can dye the glams
leaden spindle
yes to weapons
dusty thorn
oo
pure thorn
err Hero's gauntlet
dusty thorn
what's her name
pine epoch
Delete that or youll get banned nova
lunar oar
I see cool
knotty flicker
I can't believe its the mfing ||OG Warrior of Light||! Its the coolest thing ever for me!
spare axle
if we get 3 full sets of shiny primal weapons, then i rate square enix big PP
leaden spindle
sharing music is not allowed even in datamining channel, for future reference
misty burrow
fairs my b
lunar oar
It's disappointing to me tbh would have preferred in a raid
unkempt bloom
dunno if this was posted yet
but heres a new appearance for our boi
ill spoiler tag it
leaden spindle
😮
south eagle
Ooo
leaden spindle
gimme
rare sinew
OH NO
wary pond
new ex has a dragon?
rare sinew
OWO
unkempt bloom
leaden spindle
uh
azure garnet
MY BOY
rare sinew
OH FUCK
glad wing
Is he in a body bag?
dusty thorn
what is that gear????????
south eagle
Yeah boi
gaunt star
I want that outfit lol
rare sinew
FUCK
leaden spindle
could it be the source version of him?
rare sinew
HE'S GONNA DIE
mortal kernel
oh god oh fuck
south eagle
Must be
azure garnet
well
rare sinew
HE'S GONNA DIE
crimson pollen
Yeah, he passes out in the First
spice vessel
But yeah, if the Allagan Melon is in this patch can someone @ me?
south eagle
||He dies and wakes up||
heady shadow
rip
rare sinew
NOT LIKE THIS
hallow pollen
IT'S THE FIRST BOY!!!!
hidden fable
Anybody know the mystery trial yet
mortal kernel
@spice vessel you just buy seeds from merchants
unkempt bloom
yes
rare sinew
IT AIN'T SANDWICH MAKING BOI
pure thorn
its ||Seat of Sacrifice||
wary pond
new ex have dragon?
heady shadow
knew it
hallow pollen
new ex have dragon?
@wary pond yes
dense kite
Anybody got the new trial’s katana?
pure thorn
||Elidibus in WOL from ff1 body and possibly Ardbert||
wary pond
pic
ashen wyvern
does he keep ||his memories as the exarch ?||
south eagle
Unknown
rustic kestrel
no
glad wing
What about the new minions? :o
crimson pollen
||He wakes up and joins the Scions in the last scene - that unlocks him in Trust as well||
plain owl
hollow temple
Spoiler tags in a spoiler channel specific to this patch is odd.
spare axle
i'm so hyped man, so hyped
pure thorn
Also spoiler for Graha ||He "died" on the first and got back to source and join a scion, he might be a new trust tank||
rustic kestrel
well it hasn't come out yet lol
autumn haven
||I wonder if we're Garland or not. It's funny, my buddy was playing Opera Omnia and saying how much Garland's dialogue sounds like Zenos(all Garland wants is a good fight since he's doomed to repeate everything), and then I thought back to 'You and I are one and the same', so I really waonder if we ARE Garland. ||
hidden fable
Bout time that ass for ass ascian got his
ashen wyvern
I think it's mostly for MSQ since people wanna get datamining for items, but not necessarily msq
knotty flicker
MSQ spoilers: ||RIP our fanboi||
weary lagoon
People like to be teased spoilers without getting spoiled
unkempt bloom
@dense kite yes
dense kite
👀👀
wary pond
i wanna see mount look
dense kite
Gimmegimmegimme
ashen wyvern
Oh right, do we know yet ||who Hythlodaeus reincarnated into ?||
unkempt bloom
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742605329178689566/unknown.png okay i kinda want this aiming set
rustic kestrel
msq spoilers: || 
||
knotty flicker
@lunar oar I'm the opposite cause I love that its fully tied to the OG games and is in the MSQ
ashen wyvern
what's this xD @rustic kestrel
leaden spindle
my problem with the nier sets is the high collar, otherwise they would be nice
mortal kernel
vis,
hallow pollen
@unkempt bloom Do you know where to find the new gathering items?
bronze turtle
Is there any way to see which of the current submarine locations will lead to the new locations?
leaden spindle
I'm weird cause I hate spoilers once the story is out but love mining
dense kite
Are the weapons uploaded anywhere?
grand birch
can we see male versions?
unkempt bloom
what weapon do u want
gaunt star
I'm all for the scouting stuff
unkempt bloom
the katana?
gaunt star
katana
leaden spindle
plain
junior sentinel
was there new hellhound weapons?
dense kite
Oh god that’s beautiful
unkempt bloom
the male version is basically the same thing but
@grand birch https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742604766391304222/unknown.png
dense kite
It reminds me of uhhh... Firion’s sword
knotty flicker
I can't believe that (MSQ spoilers): ||our catboi isn't going to have his future self's memories|| 
grand birch
fending one please :3
south eagle
Can i see the new craft able weapon
pure thorn
dont share datamind music'
unkempt bloom
thats a insta ban
gaunt star
ah rip
pure thorn
its bannable
hallow pollen
@hallow pollen yes i do
@unkempt bloom Would you like to tell us the locations please? c:
south eagle
Oh mai
unkempt bloom
@wary pond
south eagle
Soo cool
pine epoch
Do we happen to have a full item list for 5.3
leaden spindle
lame mounts are lame
hallow pollen
Cool, thanks!!
unkempt bloom
wary pond
white as expected
pure thorn
spice vessel
@mortal kernel oh so you just GROW the minion?
weary lagoon
I was excited to farm doggos and birbs and ponies but the dragos... meh
wary pond
its elidbius then
pure thorn
||can we pls grow wind up ardbert into real ardbert||
south eagle
I like the dragons
leaden spindle
yeah dragons are also the only ones I don't like
unkempt bloom
male fending set https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742604387876339722/unknown.png
spice vessel
hell yeah
leaden spindle
||can we pls grow wind up ardbert into real ardbert||
@pure thorn yes please, give us Ardbert back
wary pond
i dont like doggos
grand birch
thanks
lunar oar
I can't believe they gave aiming a samurai cap >:(
ashen wyvern
He's withing us forever 
wary pond
skipped em
lunar oar
Like what the hell
knotty flicker
I still haven't gotten all the doggos 
leaden spindle
I got the one from moogle tomies
gaunt star
budget rebel boots
autumn haven
I'm happy about the crafted gear but when are they going to put|| Zurvan ||in the game already he's the last holdhout
knotty flicker
I'm missing Jade Stoa, Tsukiyomi, and Shinryu doggos
unkempt bloom
crafting set btw https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742604344460967976/unknown.png
leaden spindle
prettyyy
sturdy marten
don't lie to him
leaden spindle
female one the same?
unkempt bloom
yes
gentle temple
:\ I don't get why the Nier gear turns to pants on guys.
For the healer stuff at least.
leaden spindle
it's always like that
crimson pollen
Also, apparently, about the Scions||, they are back to their original jobs in the Source - as Thancred retires his Gunblade by the end, giving it to Ryne right before returning||
autumn haven
I am going to have to farm the striking set, i love how that looked in the PLL
gentle temple
The top is literally a dress.
But giving guys shorts is just too far?
unkempt bloom
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742603834823540797/unknown.png male healer set
D
gentle temple
I just want a decent pair of shorts that aren't the cascadier's stuff I've been using since 2.0 launched >.<
hidden fable
This is the INTERNET how can one care If lie/no lie
knotty flicker
||Ryne as a GNB sounds terrifying lol||
autumn haven
||unless she just keeps it||
leaden spindle
oh that's healer, I was hoping caster
unkempt bloom
u want caster?
gentle temple
Caster is the same thing I think.
sturdy marten
they're pretty similar
pure thorn
||Nah she now a GNB and Gaia a WAR now||
calm mauve
i want female striking xD
autumn haven
||Gaia uses magic though-I think she's a class we don't have yet||
gentle temple
I like it except for my thighs being unjustly imprisoned.
hallow pollen
Timemage
autumn haven
yeah that
unkempt bloom
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513067461504008192/742598569248161894/SPOILER_unknown.png female healer
hidden fable
Speaking of casters, summoner move trifoo what’s changing with that?
hidden anvil
Any previews of the glowy effects for the Tsukuyomi / Suzaku / Seiryu weapons?
sturdy marten
I like the male healer/caster from factory better I think
autumn haven
||Plus some mages in past ff's have used hammers so it'd fit||
pure thorn
nerf from 300 pot to 150 pot for SMN
pine epoch
I think ||Thancred is the only one going back to rogue, Yshtola and Alphy have invented their own jobs essentially, Urianger maybe he goes back to arcanist? But I doubt it.||
pure thorn
||Pls no HW Thancred and Urianger||
hidden fable
Tri- wait triforce? Tritek? Wtf is it called ?
pure thorn
tridisaster
topaz yoke
@unkempt bloom where is that mount from?
autumn haven
||wonder why Thancred goes back? Like I wonder what narrative reason they'll make up, guess we'll find out in a few hours||
unkempt bloom
@topaz yoke ex trial
gentle temple
Doesn't look like anything's had genderlocks removed, too.
autumn haven
||not goes back but swaps jobs back||
rare sinew
||Urianger changes job to water walker. He is not very successful||
hidden fable
Tri something
gentle temple
Friend of mine just bought the Butler suit on sale, too, hoping she'd be able to put it on her bunny this patch.
pure thorn
wait gender lock remove?
leaden spindle
where?
grand birch
someone shared this earlier
https://imgur.com/a/9ihPpoj
gentle temple
No, I'm saying nothing seems to have been.
hidden fable
Disaster ?
dire crag
@unkempt bloom do you have pics of the male aiming and casting sets? thanks
gentle temple
And she's gonna be disapointed.
pure thorn
oh
leaden spindle
yeah I did
rare sinew
Why they gotta fuck over mages again
autumn haven
||Nero new Source trust tank as his Engineer/WAR skin job we saw in the Omega raids I wonder...or Maxima||
rare sinew
Nier casting and healing looks so bleh
unkempt bloom
looks like we're getting a new Edda outfit
pure thorn
||Arenvald||
unkempt bloom
probably for the halloween outfit
autumn haven
did you post the male striking set btw?
hidden fable
Thought it was
unkempt bloom
prisma kayak
wdym again
leaden spindle
casting and healing are actually the only ones I like
prisma kayak
5.1 casting was the best
pure thorn
yes
leaden spindle
that's Edda's dress?
gentle temple
Wait,why would we get a new Edda outfit? x_x
pure thorn
CF caster top
unkempt bloom
yeah
autumn haven
||They might use him but he's just a side quest guy now these days||
prisma kayak
like no other nier dresses in 5.1 was as good as casting
unkempt bloom
its the zombified version
knotty flicker
Nero stays away any longer and he'll come back to see his bf in Mikoto's arms lmao
leaden spindle
casting always has the best stuff tbh
autumn haven
||Maxima might be a big dude going forward, same for the Ironworks crew, but again, guess we'll find out||
pure thorn
||Dyable?||
gentle temple
Wait, so is it the same dress but with blue skin or something?
leaden spindle
can we get both Nero and Alpha back?
gentle temple
^
autumn haven
LOL right with Mikoto
low spruce
gentle temple
And maybe make fun of Cid.
unkempt bloom
our boys new outfit, but without his body https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742633143776837732/Capture7.PNG
hidden fable
Console wiki says tri disaster too ok I can’t believe I forgot and I’m a smn
pure thorn
List of NPC i would like to come back: literally an essay full of names
crimson pollen
@autumn havenif anything || Thancred|| seems pretty relieved to be back, technically - at least by his reaction "we're home!"
low spruce
fathom yoke
wait so the casting outfit for nier is the same as healer but with a different hat ?
hidden fable
What’s being nerfed on tri ?
gentle temple
Nero made it to the 'favorite character' slot basically by living the longest.
sturdy marten
lots of people are saying the new relics are fakes - it is weird theres only 3 vids rolling around and afaik they've never put them in before the .x5 patch before
low spruce
leaden spindle
||Pls i want Ysyale back||
@pure thorn that would be the best thing ever but nto gonan happen
hallow pollen
Toasty what weapons are those? Bozja?
hidden fable
Pots?
unkempt bloom
ashen wyvern
No links but do we know if the trial has more than one song ? (meaning aside of the one we already know about that was shared during patch notes and trailer)
pure thorn
||And ARDBERT||
autumn haven
||That's good to hear; I AM glad to hear the gang got back||
pure thorn
Potency
low spruce
well they were posted on twitter and very quickly deleted
knotty flicker
Alisaie is now going to have to deal with a ||younger Gra'ha going after the WoL lmao||
low spruce
maybe not enough time to save them all
gentle temple
WELL now.
pure thorn
how old is Sauce Graha
unkempt bloom
hallow pollen
Ahhh maybe Seiryu or Tsukuyomi and stuff
leaden spindle
whaaat
gentle temple
That could make for an interesting Valentione's event.
ashen wyvern
he's 25 or 24 I believe
hidden fable
That’s too bad
leaden spindle
that's pretty
pure thorn
ohhh
unkempt bloom
Dirndl's set
empty sinew
Thats hella cute
gentle temple
Yay.
hidden fable
Oh well
unkempt bloom
theres a male version yes
gentle temple
More cute stuff I can't use.
leaden spindle
wonder where's it from
knotty flicker
Hey I like that!
autumn haven
||Oh source G'raha might end up the new trust tank since he's done everything before, he could always class change||
ashen wyvern
yeah he's 24 as of ARR
low spruce
theres a summer flame outfit to in model viewer
unkempt bloom
male counterpart https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742612876040077403/unknown.png
pure thorn
Dirndl
grand birch
WAR relic?
gentle temple
Yeah that's hideous.
pure thorn
WHY IS MALE ALWAYS SO DISAPPOINTED
calm mauve
can i ask for female striking of nier? :3
ashen wyvern
I'm interested in BLM relic
crimson pollen
relics are same, just with glow for now
leaden spindle
maybe they're the gathering gear?
worn spruce
can i ask for female striking of nier? :3
@calm mauve
https://m.imgur.com/a/9ihPpoj
empty sinew
I want all relics ngl
calm mauve
ty
gentle temple
Looks like something you'd force a three year old to wear for pictures because it's cute to make your kids suffer.
pure thorn
the relic videos are fake according to lots of people
autumn haven
Male striking here
pure thorn
its not in the game yet
hollow cargo
I've only seen one person claim they are fake
hallow pollen
Yeah but might be the Primal gear
trail igloo
Eternal Wind and To the Edge are probably the trial songs
empty sinew
Meh
gentle temple
I guess they have to make the male sets ugly so people with female characters don't complain that they didn't get them >_>
hollow cargo
And then a bunch of people quoting that person
empty sinew
I still want them lol
low spruce
unless we have graphic designers wasting their time to troll lol
unkempt bloom
@autumn haven https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701987943086293053/742605007659991110/unknown.png
pure thorn
i mean if you think about it, not until another few months til we get relic weapon
unkempt bloom
male striking
trail igloo
Since they're both crafted from the same orchestrion roll
autumn haven
nah the male set here looks amazing, and thank you
sturdy marten
males had better yorha CF and neo-ishgard versions imo
empty sinew
I guess they have to make the male sets ugly so people with female characters don't complain that they didn't get them >_>
@gentle temple This
hollow cargo
The upgrade is in the .5 patch which is 4-6 weeks after
autumn haven
yeah males get a LOT Of good gear in the game
weary lagoon
two options, its either in game or not, either way the videos still cool
hollow cargo
they are back to near optimal operation capacity
I doubt there will be much delay from here on out unless shit goes crazy again
ashen wyvern
they did say we're back to normal schedule from now on
knotty flicker
Elidibus ||better flipping stay dead now||
orchid bloom
Pretty sure it said there would be a delay on next expansion
pure thorn
i would take it with a grain of salt too, like the supposedly lead from tje Blue guys a while back
orchid bloom
How’s that on schedule
dapper yarrow
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low spruce
america is the only dingus country still getting alarming spikes lmao
ashen wyvern
oh so no more ||unbroken ascians ?||
leaden spindle
Elidibus ||better flipping stay dead now||
@knotty flicker so much this
weary lagoon
now they have a method of dealing with it it shouldnt get any delays in the futre, they just jump straight on to how they have done it now
autumn haven
||I want to know who White Robe is...he knows Emet, hes attached to them...I think he might be one of Venat's crew||
rancid swift
whomst is dirndl???
hollow cargo
They did say WFH capacity is like 90% of in office now
so if they had to go back there might be slight delays
gentle temple
Males get a lot of good gear if you're looking at unisex gear.
pure thorn
||Azem?||
crimson pollen
COVID situation worsened in JP as of last two weeks. We will have to wait and pray - ofc their health is 'st place
autumn haven
||In 5.2 they did a lot of pointing out about the 'Distressed Amaurotine' who talked to venat in the past and he didnt seem too fond of the convocation||
ashen wyvern
||we're still sundered though no ? we're missing 5 parts of our souls||
hollow cargo
but I can't see anything significant unless something happened to their staff, which would be bad regardless
gentle temple
If you're looking at genderlocked gear or stuff where it's one version that changes drastically between sexes, there's a definite bias.
pure thorn
||Azem or Hythlo maybe?||
ashen wyvern
||do we know who hythlo is currently yet||
sturdy marten
bias towards what?
pure thorn
|| Did someone said Hythlo also got reborn?||
leaden spindle
Yeah, they're essentially fully working from home now so
autumn haven
||Hythlo seems too much like a cool dude, this dude is coming off as more sinister, but who knows||
ashen wyvern
||uh oh||
knotty flicker
Also what's with Square Enix and giving all their bad guys robes? I get that maybe their designs aren't finalized but I'm so tired of seeing mysterious robed guy #638
gentle temple
Towards female characters.
hollow cargo
I mean, the exarch wears a robe
ashen wyvern
I mean who knows
ashen wyvern
||perhaps there's more to hythlo than it seems yeah...||
sturdy marten
ehh. like i said 2 of the most recent of unisex w/ gender differences (neo-ish & Yorha copied) look better on guys
hollow cargo
So does Urianger, Emet doesn't, robe doesn't mean much
pure thorn
||What if Unuk||
low spruce
i think its just subjective. i prefer female design some dont
gentle temple
Granted, I'm still salty about getting reused crafting gear twice for events that had new models on female characters...Sure it's been a while since they did that, but they never fixed it, either...
pure thorn
||Why hasnt Elidibus mention Unuk yet||
gaunt star
dont recall nidhog wearing a robe.could be wrong though
autumn haven
||he knows Emet, he says 'have you found a way' implying that he knew Emet did something||
low spruce
robed niddy lol
knotty flicker
I'm specifically talking about the villains. Yes catboi and Urianger wear robes but it pales in comparison to the others.
ashen wyvern
||so is it confirmed we're Azem ?||
pure thorn
||If Unuk is a part of our soul, we gotta eat him too?||
gaunt star
nidhog was a villain
gentle temple
He left it at home.
knotty flicker
||Azem?||
pure thorn
||Yes it is confirmed||
autumn haven
||Unu is still stuck in WT quest sidequest and that's not required...its a funny thing but i notice they tend tomake stuff required if its important to the MSQ and not everyone does those||
hollow cargo
The big bads from evey exp didn't wear robes though
ashen wyvern
||from the dialogue shared it seems directed at wol so||
low spruce
wouldnt be able to see anything. like exdeath's cape on steroids
leaden spindle
We know that Ascians = robes most bad guys are ascian so
autumn haven
||..whose Azem?||
hollow cargo
nidhogg can't, zenos didn't, emet didn't
ashen wyvern
||fourteenth||
knotty flicker
Wait who is ||Azem?||
pure thorn
||i saw dialog earlier saying we are 14th member and the name was Azem||
gentle temple
Emet had a long coat.
gaunt star
i think it's more of .he's got a robe.could be an ascian'
autumn haven
||THATS what i thought yeah||
ashen wyvern
yeah I saw that too
pure thorn
||Azem IS NOT Venat||
ashen wyvern
that's a cool name
gentle temple
I think that probably counts as a robe.
gaunt star
Did we have whm relic yet? 👀
autumn haven
||So was this Elidibus the sacrifice for Zodiark, or was that someone else||
ashen wyvern
||I know some people theorized venat to be minfilia||
pure thorn
||Venat is not a convocation member and we didnt summon Hydealyn but Venat did||
leaden spindle
Well in Emet's case he was wearing a garlean body and clothes so there's that
autumn haven
||do we find out who venat is? I didn't think it was her to be honest||
crimson pollen
Venat is prolly that shoebill who keeps appearing randomly and watching us - see it happening in future patches, lol
ashen wyvern
||yeah fourteenth/wol is neutral I believe||
hidden fable
How do you make blank black spot over letters?
azure garnet
|| at both ends
pure thorn
||Azemwas the one who is uncorrupted cuz they didnt invilve in both Zodiark or Hydealyn summoning||
desert agate
||woah||
hollow cargo
I mean yes in shade form (or whatever they call it) they are robed, emet just never cared to be edgy in that way
hidden fable
|| test ||
ashen wyvern
||@pure thorn didn't they serve as hydaelyn's core ?||
pure thorn
i edited the last tag
real hill
whats the tsyuku primal item called?
hidden fable
Got it
gaunt star
there was also that villain that lasted for one patch.he wasnt wearing a robe.the guy with the hover wheels
does anybody have an image or video of the ast relic like the others that were posted above?
pure thorn
||Venat did, not Azem||
hidden fable
That work in all servers ?
knotty flicker
To Emet Selch the Warrior of Light was probably "that guy". You know, like in real life. There's always "that guy"
sturdy marten
how do you spoiler tag again
calm mauve
i want other relics 😦
hollow cargo
|| on both ends
autumn haven
||okay so as suspected we're the 14th, venat died to become one core, did OUR Elidibus die to become the other or is this someone we dont know yet||
low spruce
and they arent confirmed to be accurate'
fossil basalt
@low spruce Do you have a vid of the PLD Resistance weapon?
ashen wyvern
french and jp versions mention emet selch had "affection" for us, so I guess we were rather close friends
crimson pollen
When Venat said he would choose the "form" he would come back, pretty sure we should expect someone but maybe that shoebill or soemthing like that
hollow cargo
haven't we been suspected of being that since 5.0 though tbf?
pure thorn
who?
sturdy marten
|| I'm just happy that this finally puts the whole "wol is venat" thing that ive been having to suffer from people who can't read for like 6 months ||
ashen wyvern
god this
ashen wyvern
||even the earlier theory that wol summoned hydaelyn didn't fit with the wol's theme tbh||
gaunt star
i dont think he had much affection for me.i took all the troll responses in dialgue xd
knotty flicker
||Honestly Azem is a cooler name||
orchid bloom
||Elidibus is a title, not a name. So. ||
ashen wyvern
it's really cool
unkempt bloom
i feel like i'm cheating, knowing the node times for the new folklore
autumn haven
||oh i was firmly on the 'WoL is the 14th' side, but also a minor part of 'WoL was Zodiark'. Which also brings up the idea that we're more of a rebel than people think||
pure thorn
||Azem means strength btw||
unkempt bloom
but this is all in the name of gil
real hill
what are they aurora?
hollow cargo
I honestly don't recall hearing the names ||venat|| or ||azem|| before today
ashen wyvern
||venat|| was in 5.2
pure thorn
||Venat is mentioned in Anyder||
sturdy marten
|| venat was the major lore dump of 5.2 though ||
pure thorn
you skipped the cutscenes lmao
autumn haven
||Yeah I really want to know who the core of Zodiark is now, I wonder if it was some relative of one of the Unsundered or something that got killed for it||
hollow cargo
oh from the databse thing
gaunt star
btw that list fo new items.it shows new fish but doesnt show which fish are now useable in aquarium
pine epoch
||Ye Azem is Hebrew for strength and is also the name of a town given to Simeon in First Chronicles||
hollow cargo
right, I jsut didn't remember the name I guess
desert agate
It's funny to see multiple separate dialogs in parallel here😂
low spruce
theres not gonna be new books right?
hollow cargo
new books? for craft? no
low spruce
gathering
hollow cargo
Unles they break their formula
sturdy marten
|| its early and I haven't had coffee but I thought they already said the original elidibus became the core of zodiark? ||
gentle temple
||Azem sounds awfully similar to Azim...||
hollow cargo
shouldn't for gathering either
pure thorn
its not
gentle temple
GDI
ashen wyvern
||I mean the wol's shown to have all kind of strenghts, ranging to physical, emotional, mental etc. despite the shit and coping methods they develop, so it makes sense||
crimson pollen
Elidibus is Zodi core, yeah
autumn haven
||Yeah but we don't know who that was||
pure thorn
similar but not the same thing
autumn haven
okay thats 5.2 stuff
quick widget
So this patch we have 2 ex trials?
autumn haven
but yeah we know its a title, we don't know who the person was under the title
pure thorn
technically yea?
gentle temple
Linquistic drift is a thing.
ashen wyvern
||it's possible some people retained unconscious memories of the convocation and got inspiration to name their gods after them||
leaden spindle
the Unreal is kinda ex but not a real ex
pure thorn
Unreal Shiva and Werlyt
mellow reef
Give me other relics...I need them 🤤
leaden spindle
Werlyt is solo
autumn haven
Like how Emet-Selch is the title, he was actually Hades
hollow cargo
Remember, ||we know ascians by title, not name||
leaden spindle
the other ex is msq
pure thorn
oh ||Seat of Sacrifice||
pine epoch
Unreal Shiva and ????? Ex
ashen wyvern
yeah ||azem|| is a title too
crimson pollen
We need to remember Venat said he would come back and would choose his form. The thing about sacrificing to be the core is relative in that perspective
gentle temple
It wouldn't be crazy for two things with similar names to turn out to be the same thing, just with a couple of centuries of playing telephone between them.
knotty flicker
||Azem|| the name reminds me of Yu-Gi-Oh's Atem. I love it.
pure thorn
||Seat of Sacrifice is the name of the new trial||
orchid forge
|| Killing people to summon a being to "save" everyone sounds real FFX-y to me lmao||
pure thorn
||we be fighting WOL from ff1 and prolly Ardbert||
ashen wyvern
this patch is gonna be a wild ride
autumn haven
And just like regular mythos Hades he was in charge of the Underworld. His backstory goes into some cool things(Through his Eyes I think it was called). He and Hythlo were the Awesome People at soul-sight it did point out which makes me go hmmm about something
hollow cargo
I'm looking forward to it
pure thorn
pls look forward to it
pine epoch
||even tho Azem is a Seat name and not our ancients real name, I honestly do think it fits our characters original self. + for the sake of keeping the power of peoples headcanons only giving our seat name and not real name allows people to be like oh ya definitely Azem was our real name and the seat named after us. Or the player name was always their real name. something dumb.||
pure thorn
well all these fanfic writers who think we were persephony has to change their lore now lmao
quick widget
I’m confused we have 2 sets of weapons, Hellhound and wol
gaunt star
id love them to bring mistbeard back into msq
knotty flicker
Can't wait to find out that Elidibus escapes and is hiding in Tataru's body /s
autumn haven
more 5.2 stuff here-Zenos also has the soul sight, and we know through White Robe's dialogue Emet did something to him, so either his relation to Hades actually connected him(I Mean in greek mythology, Zagreus was the son of Hades and was the god of the hunt, rebirth and the underworld so there's that)
pine epoch
Hellhound is PVP
quick widget
Oh
pine epoch
ranked pvp
you get Wolf Collars from scoring bronze silver gold platinum
and you use them to buy the weapons
pure thorn
tataru is zodiark
ashen wyvern
white coat dude did mention emet might have done something within his family
knotty flicker
It was right in front of our eyes. Tataru pls
autumn haven
yeah Emet was pretty obsessed with getting the past back, it wouldn't surprise me for him to do something to one of his family members at ALL
leaden spindle
anybody got pics of the new feast rewards?
orchid forge
Why do you think she's so bad at everything? It's cuz she's not fully rejoined yet
crimson pollen
It's clear the team to me wants to move on from the Ascian stuff, tho. Look these Ascians being killed off panel, like the one in Eureka, for example. Maybe they want more narrative freedom to bring up some other villains and stories.
pure thorn
she just pretend to be bad
autumn haven
well they mentioned we're about 80% of the way through the h/z arc after this, so we're coming up to the final stretch
pure thorn
cant have your enemy go looking at you suspicious
sturdy marten
that leaked cutscene of zodiark crawling out of her mouth was sick 🙃
hollow cargo
Well this is the first expansion that wasn't already planned since ARR launch
autumn haven
will probably finish off after 6.0
azure garnet
Ewww
hollow cargo
so they likely want to wrap up some storylines
knotty flicker
Thats an image in my head lol
pure thorn
did we ever confirm Zodiark is a dude?
orchid forge
I just hope they don't pull a stormblood and just make it too fast and sloppy (i stg don't) and it just leaves a bad taste
autumn haven
and of course what doesn't get mentioned is that Tataru and Enkidu actually do a fusion dance but that's neither here nor there
ashen wyvern
next main ennemy is probably the sound
azure garnet
Its prob a dude 
ashen wyvern
or...whatever caused it
knotty flicker
We find out that Zodiark's true name is Xehanort
autumn haven
I think the Sound is going to be alien-like a Lavos or Jenova type thing
pure thorn
it all make sense now
autumn haven
we have aliens everywhere(Dragons, Omega etc)
ashen wyvern
zodiark's true name is "waking sands"
pure thorn
Tataru is Xehanort
hollow cargo
they refer to zodiark as 'he' so
pure thorn
Tataru is norted
sturdy marten
Honestly if I see a single Kingdom Hearts name enter the game ctrl+alt+delete
gaunt star
Pray return to New Jersey
orchid forge
Waking Sands is the Chrysalis
hollow cargo
father and mother references
gentle temple
Persephone always seemed a little overboard to me.
pure thorn
we come back to the sauce and Tataru got the nort look
autumn haven
I can see some sort of Alien Being having crashed long ago to bury into the planet that started to wake up maybe
gaunt star
Please don’t use that term
knotty flicker
Raxatut is Tataru
ashen wyvern
possibly zodiark and hydaelyn follow their core's gender ? ||Venat|| was referred as "she" in french
gentle temple
I went with Kore, it's more subtle.
pure thorn
We know Tataru is literal god
autumn haven
Yeah i admittedly always liked the Zagreus-Hades myth a lot because it's so little known by people
pure thorn
she just did the Midgard thing to watch us
gentle temple
||Venat also clearly has a feminine voice in JP||
sturdy marten
being flipped off by a KH fan is like a confirmation you still have braincells so thank you
autumn haven
and the fact they made Zenos obsessed with the hunt, able to be reborn and yeah, I don't think that was accidental given Zagreus had Hunt, Rebirth and the Underworld as his schtick
pure thorn
i wonder if we were a he or a she lmao
crimson pollen
Gaius shoul've been a Lala. It'd have made Praetorium way epic when he got ejected No nO NO Uh
gentle temple
||Like, all the other Ancients use the same voice clip I think, and hers was noticably different||
knotty flicker
Elidibus pulls his hood down and reveals that he's an older Sora who had gone mad after being stuck with Xehanort for years.
autumn haven
I always used 'they' for venat since in XII Venat/the Occuria were known to be genderless and they used feminine voices
quick widget
Is it up yet >_<
hollow cargo
not yet
pure thorn
no
gentle temple
Teeeaaaam Garlemald blasting off agaaaaaaaaaa~in~~
gaunt star
That’s what she said
honestly i just want to see some people get killed off permanently.we've had too many back from the dead or escaping death
dapper yarrow
@desert agate Not appropriate for this server.
orchid forge
honestly i just want to see some people get killed off permanently.we've had too many back from the dead or escaping death
@gaunt star You can say Y'shtola
pure thorn
||only 2 came back tho?||
crimson pollen
No. Tbf, it might be delayed as APP was already pushed further
gentle temple
||Venat also just sounds like a feminine name to me||
ashen wyvern
some ancients share same file, but others are noticeably different
knotty flicker
Tola will never die lmao
gaunt star
The name reminds me of that Pokémon
sturdy marten
All my favorites always die permanently tbh
pure thorn
||Emet come back and help us fight Eli||
ashen wyvern
||Venat's sounds feminine, and Hythlodaeus' sounds young man-ish for example||
gentle temple
Really? We've only actually heard a handful speak.
sturdy marten
|| Moenbryda, Ysayle, Papalymo ||
gaunt star
i mean at one point i had fingers crosses thancred would die.but then he's magically fine after
pure thorn
||ARDBERT||
orchid forge
Only the good ones die
spare axle
what ilvl do the trial weapons have?
ashen wyvern
pure thorn
||Haucherfaunt||
gaunt star
Unfortunately... yeah :(
pure thorn
oh god ||Haucherfaunt||
orchid forge
Well.. almost all are good
gaunt star
in other words we'll be stuck with alhinaud for life
gentle temple
The ||Shoebill just happens to be watching the fight||
knotty flicker
Runar will probably die of loneliness after Y'shtola leaves tho 
crimson pollen
Máxima is the type of guy that was created just to fit a ruling role. Pretty sure he's gonna be someone importante for Garlemald once we go there
gentle temple
And distracts him at a key moment.
steady cosmos
So wait
ashen wyvern
it's amazing how they keep rubbing the wound even in shb about ||haurchefant||
sturdy marten
I watched some nature documentary on disney + the other day and there was a segment on shoebills and those fuckers are terrifying in real life
pure thorn
they know what they are doing
drowsy quartz
@unkempt bloom "i feel like i'm cheating, knowing the node times for the new folklore"
Ooh please share....🤗
pure thorn
rubbing salt in our wound
gentle temple
He'll probably be the leader or at least our liaison with the anti-war faction.
ashen wyvern
crimson pollen
Shoebill is likely to be Venat, telling ya
gentle temple
Maxima, I mean.