retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[civic coral]

People keep forgetting they added bulwark

[oak pike]

treat bulwark like other tanks 90 second cooldowns

[stray granite]

goring blade was a dot before right

[oak pike]

yep

[fringe badger]

It was

[odd yoke]

the sheltron change helps it against mitigating bleed busters

[oak pike]

goring blade is now just a heavy hitting gcd on a 60 cd

[odd yoke]

since block doesn't reduce the bleed

[primal basalt]

it was also an alternate 3 for the 123 combo

[ashen kelp]

Now it's just basically a worse dotless sonic blade

[ashen kelp]

I'm aware that's why I said except against dots.

[primal basalt]

900 potency
clearly worse

[gaunt star]

goring is 700 not 900

[frigid isle]

Im am 100% ok with that

No more dots to maintain right? As pld? 🙃

[sour cradle]

my only issue with the new goring blade is just that it's kind of boring

[gaunt star]

pld's only dot now is from circle

[ashen kelp]

You have a vestigial one which is ass

[frigid isle]

Ohh i love scorn

[oak pike]

well more like 875 pot cause you only use goring blade under FoF

[fringe badger]

They could feasibly replace goring blade with something flashy anytime now

[frigid isle]

Just got home from work so now I can read the full patch notes lol

[ashen kelp]

Oh look and we have clemency still. Not something that could have been fixed, nor the oath gauge

[gaunt star]

shield bash

[plain dove]

cover...

[fringe badger]

Clemency is still totally fine

[oak pike]

oath gauge is chill

[prisma vine]

ok i just got here after reading the patch notes and i have no idea what the changes to pld Are

[oak pike]

clemency is chill

[ashen kelp]

Clemency is a dead button

[fringe badger]

If you have a dead brain I guess

[gaunt star]

I used clemency more times than cover

[civic coral]

High Concept is a perfectly valid Clem time

[north fulcrum]

I use clemency and cover equally

[civic coral]

For example

[north fulcrum]

Never.

[oak pike]

clemency is just saving someone real quick

[ashen kelp]

tldr, it's a gnb where half it's no mercy window is unaffected by skillspeed, still has the oath gauge, still has cover and a 7 minute invuln, and is still fucked by auto attacks

[gaunt star]

I only use clemency in dungeons if my healer dies and I wanna save the pull

[prisma vine]

oh so drk copied war, pld now copies gnb. exactly what I expected lol

[fringe badger]

Biggest complaint I can levy towards clemency now is you definitely can't use it during req now

[ashen kelp]

Honestly I only ever use clemency in under 84 dungeon content. Past that I just used holy spirit divine veil

[gaunt star]

drg copies rpr

reworked

[shut oyster]

nooo

[civic coral]

Clemency + Cover a RDM to raise a healer for LB3 in an apocalypse situation

[shut oyster]

but also life surge going from 45s to 40s it's just eh

[civic coral]

I'd rather have it then not

I'll give you oath relying on autos being whack as hell tho

[ashen kelp]

Cover basically is useless in high end raids due to sheltron being required to where you don't have oath to spare

[cloud gulch]

I may be too new to the game but is this a pld nerf?

[oak pike]

makes it easier fit in 2 mins

[civic coral]

Esp with where they wanna take the job

[oak pike]

buff over all

[sour cradle]

they made like three different cds 40s from 45 for whatever reason

[shut oyster]

pretty much is just there to make DRG a bit more flexible

[signal folio]

to line up the 2 minute window

[oak pike]

40 seconds lines up with 2 mins

[fringe badger]

Probably not unless they fudged the numbers

[tacit goblet]

Cover is still Cover lol

[fringe badger]

It's a job rework intended to fix their nonexistent burst damage

[primal basalt]

doomers are gonna doom no matter what

[plain dove]

it's an actual good rework unless some kind of number fuckery happened.

[ashen kelp]

The did one unambiguous buff. They fixed divine Veil. Everything else is just worse GNB

[shut oyster]

Phlegma was a bit of a headache to fit both during buff windows

[oak pike]

but yeah in a vacuum its an overall buf

[rain onyx]

GNB with less weaves

[fringe badger]

Biggest L is definitely the atonement dropping, but pld is pretty much only doing RA combo now so it's less of an irritation I think?

[rain onyx]

AKA good for me

[plain dove]

getting sting from prog on yourself is just Chef's Kiss

[rain onyx]

\o/

[glossy hemlock]

I saw someone in here before say how they never saw anyone use Cover and ??

Like I see it all the time

[shut oyster]

it was a long time coming

[signal folio]

when do you see cover O_o

[glossy hemlock]

Trials

[viscid monolith]

Is it doing anything when they use it

[obtuse trout]

Idk but the old changes don't seem SO bad

[shut oyster]

I complained multiple times you straight never had access to more more stacks during 8 man

[oak pike]

i see cover in roulettes

[fringe badger]

Cover is pretty good in stuff where you just want to keep the boss on one tank and there isn't bleed shit going on

[viscid monolith]

Or are they just using it to use it

[frigid isle]

Euphrosyne vibes

[ashen kelp]

Are they lvl 50-60 trials? Because that's basically just cover being a noob trap

[plain dove]

Makes it so you don't have to fish for sting lmao.

[glossy hemlock]

Probably just to use it

Idk how it works I’ve never played it

[shut oyster]

it's mostly because single target shielding on sage it worthless on 8 man and above

[signal folio]

like sure its an ability with some niche uses but i've never seen people using it, definitely not often

[frigid isle]

If you OT as PLD then use cover on MT duh

[tacit goblet]

If cover had more range and/or used your stats to calculate the damage, then maybe it’d see use

[frigid isle]

Pro gamer move

[glossy hemlock]

No like raidwide damage phases

[oak pike]

just current boss design cover doesnt really do much cause of tank busters are forced swaps

[glossy hemlock]

Like Hydaelyn

[shut oyster]

on 4 man you can single target shield prepull and get stacks that way

[signal folio]

you are thinking passage of arms?

[glossy hemlock]

Maybe??

[tacit goblet]

It’s super niche as of now

[shut oyster]

but on raids you just started with 3 and that's all you get

[glossy hemlock]

That glowy thing

[signal folio]

that is not cover

[ashen kelp]

It uses a resource generated by auto attacks (which intervention and sheltron your main defensives for you and your cotank also use), it's 120 seconds on a cd and it ignores your defensive cooldowns

[glossy hemlock]

That they all did in the screenshot

[zenith turtle]

Question, will i have to edit my hotbars at all?

[fringe badger]

A little

[glossy hemlock]

Then why did someone talk about cover after the screenshot smh

[plain dove]

some

[keen osprey]

Wished they buffed passage of arms in a way to cover up the lack of dps we're outputing while using it

[fringe badger]

They added bulwark back

[ashen kelp]

If PLD. Yes. If not, no

[zenith turtle]

Noooo, they were perfect

[oak pike]

pld you just add bulwark somewhere

other wise buttons are the same

[shut oyster]

Machinist will just add a new button to my hotbar wich I welcome

[signal folio]

cover is just taking one players damage and putting it on yourself, passage of arms is the nice shield for raidwide

[fringe badger]

Actually mch has to add a button too, but those bars weren't exactly overflowing lol

[ashen kelp]

... they changed the entire flow of combat so your entire damage bars are getting reworked

[shut oyster]

machinist has few buttons yeah

[tacit goblet]

Yeah, would kind of liked it to be like White Mage’s wings

[plain dove]

might swap around the placement of some PLD stuff for ease of use, but otherwise you only gained 2 buttons.

[obtuse trout]

How u feel about hyperchage charges I blame u for this which isn't a bad blame it's a good one

[near ice]

Has the patch been made available to download, yet?

[zenith turtle]

I'm using that HUD and hotbars config from nexus, it's great but killed my creativity to mess around with that

[oak pike]

so far my hotbars are the same for paladin

[plain dove]

no, got like, 4 hours

[obtuse trout]

Maintenance started like 2 hours ago so I doubt it

[rain onyx]

!faq maintmeme

[lusty shadow]

Maintenance FAQ

Is maintenance happening?!?!?
Yes.

Is it over?
No.

Are the full patch notes up yet?
Yes. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/764840557caa22a8f77550b480aa3c79b2e733d2

Can I download the patch now?
If I used this faq in the first half of the maintenance, probably not.

[ashen kelp]

Like right now my bars are fast, riot, RA, gor, charge

[obtuse trout]

Omg when was this added

[oak pike]

just gonna move cover to a better spot and move bulwark where cover use to me

[rain onyx]

When maint started

[tacit goblet]

Or just a straight up buff

[ashen kelp]

and my magic combo is on my right mouse, with this change I do have to change around quite a bit to make it work

[obtuse trout]

Ooo

[rain onyx]

I delete and add it back as needed for big patches

[oak pike]

funky set up

[obtuse trout]

I See :0c

[ashen kelp]

That is not an insignificant amount of moving stuff around

[tacit goblet]

Ah neat

[fringe badger]

I'll probably put bulwark where I put thrill on WAR. Pretty much just gonna stack it with rampart the same

[oak pike]

i just press 123 5 then ctrl 1 *3

[tacit goblet]

How much does blocking reduce damage anyways???

[oak pike]

just muscle memory changes for me

around 20%

[ashen kelp]

20% except for dots for literally no reason

[tacit goblet]

And crits

[fringe badger]

It reduces direct damage I guess

[ashen kelp]

endgame bosses don't crit anymore

[oak pike]

yeah block just reduce direct damage

[fringe badger]

A programming challenge I guess they didn't want to tackle lol

[oak pike]

its just how the mitigation application

[zenith turtle]

Fuck job changes, we got a new system theme, Clear Blue💙

[oak pike]

like as a 90 second cool down its chill

[fringe badger]

Commendation menu becoming a battle of the best plate is pretty A+

[oak pike]

it got it quirks like other tanks 90s cool downs

[tawny relic]

Up to 20%

[ashen kelp]

Literally my only real concern about bulwark is if they would make it useless by tying it to oath gauge

[obtuse trout]

I Like that the theme is so easily to change color of aka they could and probably might add more colors to that particular theme

Which gives me hope for lavender theme or pink

[fringe badger]

Bulwark's just a plain cooldown looks like

[zenith turtle]

Lavender would be cool af

[fringe badger]

Just use it on tank busters

[tacit goblet]

Yeah, 90s CD with no strings attached

[oak pike]

war just 10% hp increase, DRK only block magic by 30%, GNB 10% and the occasion 15%, and now PLD with their 15-20% block depending on level

[ashen kelp]

Though happy that DRK got buffed this patch at least

[fringe badger]

It's a solid option since pld didn't have anything good to stack with rampart

[oak pike]

DRK got nothing this patch

[sour cradle]

does release grit count as a buff tho

[ashen kelp]

... did you forget the major drawback of their dark mind ability?

[dim sigil]

Just let us control the RGB sliders like old FF

[obtuse trout]

It's such a pretty color pls devs be so kind and give us a lavender theme 🙏 I use the UI mod anyway but if there was lavender I'd maybe swap

[oak pike]

yeah

[viscid monolith]

There is no drawback to Dark Mind

[obtuse trout]

yes sounds even better

Peach theme

[fringe badger]

The buff is the flying text change

Which is for real a huge buff

[ashen kelp]

Game didn't give you information outside of using ACT as to what attacks counted as magic damage. It does now.

[oak pike]

buff for console players

[fringe badger]

Buff for lazy people too

[dim sigil]

Dark mind is definitely something I'm never sure to ever use because I don't know what's magical or not so yeah it is actually a pretty good buff

[viscid monolith]

You just figured it out as you went along. You're running these fights 1000 times anyway.

[signal folio]

It only tells you after it hits, you still need to find out the same way

[fringe badger]

Good intel regardless

[tacit goblet]

The only adjustment to WHM and it’s a minor wording change lol

[shut oyster]

uhh no

[signal folio]

Its a cooldown change

[sour cradle]

they reduced the cooldown by 5s

[oak pike]

its cd is now 40 instead of 45

[shut oyster]

it's assize being 40seconds

[fringe badger]

Assize got a cd to align with 2 minutes too

[tacit goblet]

Oh shit

Pog

[fringe badger]

Based change to every 45 second button

[signal folio]

Isnt leylines 45

[ashen kelp]

A game giving you more consistent information to make the guess work less infuriating is a welcome change.

[fringe badger]

Leylines is 90 seconds

So it was already one of the weird ones

[signal folio]

Oh job page says 120 maybe i missed that change earlier

[ashen kelp]

Leylines... doesn't that make thunderclap refresh to full stacks upon a monk tping to the blm with an aoe?

[fringe badger]

Wait is it 2 minutes?

[shut oyster]

!action leylines

[lusty shadow]

**Ley Lines** : lvl 52 BLM (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Connects naturally occurring ley lines to create a circle of power which, while standing within it, reduces spell cast time and recast time, and auto-attack delay by 15%.
Duration: 30s

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[shut oyster]

really

it doesn't show the cd

[fringe badger]

Oh shit it totally is

[viscid monolith]

Ya but my point is it wasn't a drawback to Dark Mind

[shut oyster]

oh wait it's up there

can't read moment

[signal folio]

All i remember is it wasnt on the 2 minute originally lol

[oak pike]

The draw back to DM is just it only affects magic

[rain onyx]

Average FFXIV player literacy moment

[oak pike]

Which is some TB and raid wides

[shut oyster]

that's not a draw back

a lot of the raid wides in the game are magic damage

like, a looot of them

[viscid monolith]

Leylines was 90 seconds or some weird shit before

Maybe 80

[fringe badger]

It was a usability drawback. The intel is helpful going forward for drks in training

[viscid monolith]

It made no sense

[mellow nymph]

So everyone ready to see the Matron finally?

[oak pike]

camo was good cause you can pop it as a filler for autos or other things

[rain onyx]

Ley Lines was 90 pre-EW

[zenith turtle]

Wait, i no longer need low ping to play mch?

[mellow nymph]

Im even gonna do this Patch as a RPR due to her

[fringe badger]

It did used to be one of the weird 90 second buffs, but I guess they made LL a 2min when I wasn't paying attention

[mellow nymph]

If this is true its gonna be the best news this patch is gonna bring me

[obtuse trout]

They gave hypercharge charges now

[oak pike]

Thrill was cool to combo with other abilities

[fringe badger]

You need substantially less ping to enjoy mch I think?

[oak pike]

Hyper charge and wild fire is on stacks now

[ashen kelp]

I'd say a game not giving you consistent information to use the tools at your disposal is a massive drawback

[mellow nymph]

So is it like DRK now?

[shut oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892267310742655006/1062201787165196308/image.png

[fringe badger]

I assume wildfire will stop being dumb now that it has stacks

[shut oyster]

read, read read

[mellow nymph]

OH FUCK

ITS ACTUALLY HAPPENING

[zenith turtle]

I know right? I'm Brazilian, we don't have good servers, 200ping minimus always, now I feel like levelling mch

[shut oyster]

yeah machinist players rejoicing all over the world

[mellow nymph]

I A CONSOLE PLAYER CAN PLAY MCH WITHOUT WORRY NOW

[plain dove]

yeah, you no longer need to sapm like ninja

[obtuse trout]

Everyone cheered

[fringe badger]

Mch not having any utilities was actually so stupid

[mellow nymph]

I can finally level MCH!

[viscid monolith]

Dude. You could look at most skills and see it's magic come on

[fringe badger]

It just didn't work

[shut oyster]

!action tactician

[lusty shadow]

**Tactician** : lvl 56 MCH (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Reduces damage taken by self and nearby party members by 10%.
Duration: 15s
Effect cannot be stacked with bard's Troubadour or dancer's Shield Samba.

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[shut oyster]

/j

[frigid isle]

Ok random question about gold saucer. Were all 3 available at once for each timestamp or was it random which one appeared?

[shut oyster]

I mean it does count though you have two mits now

[sour cradle]

if only they'd done that for mch before they gave us servers and ping stopped being an issue lol

[fringe badger]

Lol

[mellow nymph]

IM BRAZILLIAN TOO!

[stray granite]

true best thing about 6.3

[plain dove]

there was literally no ingame way to know if something was magic or not without testing with tank mits.

[mellow nymph]

BEHEMOTH BROS.

[frigid isle]

This is fr a gamechanger

[latent flume]

One GATE per section, chosen from the 3 listed

[zenith turtle]

BEHEBROS

[ashen kelp]

No you actually can't. It's basically decided on if they remember DM exists or not

[zenith turtle]

É nois família

[shut oyster]

Only on the battle logs, the only way to know something being magic is if the action says "it starts casting" wich is pretty funny

[ashen kelp]

Which considering they only balanced this raid around GNB and DRK they remembed it existed

[fringe badger]

That's like half true. The way to test was usually just using dark mind

[frigid isle]

Awww dammnit, what are the chances of sylphstep even appearing

[viscid monolith]

I'm not doing this back and forth shit it wasn't a big deal. It's welcome change though.

[fringe badger]

Or addle

[mellow nymph]

Lol i wont lie i only joined Behemoth cause its majorly populated by BR

[oak pike]

I mean you lol be right most of the time to see what is magic by guessing

[mellow nymph]

Com certeza

[frigid isle]

What is BR

[dusty blaze]

casts/prepares isn't a surefire way of telling what is physical or magic

[plain dove]

this was disproven ages ago

[mellow nymph]

Usually used to indicate a Brazillian

[oak pike]

You’ll be like 80% right by guessing alone

[shut oyster]

Really?

Damn

[zenith turtle]

We all did, i don't regret but I rarely interact with other Brazilians

[latent flume]

Chances are 1 in 3, twice per hour

[frigid isle]

Ohh I thougjt Ultros had Brazillions

Or hyperion?

[viscid monolith]

Usually you just parry something and it's like "oh that's physical cool"

[shut oyster]

it's behemoth

iirc

[mellow nymph]

Me too, but then again we dont wanna try unknown ground after all

[shut oyster]

at least i'm pretty sure behemoth is where the brazilians chill at

[mellow nymph]

No Behemoth is the Unofficial Brazillian Server

[zenith turtle]

Yhea, behemoth is filled with us

[fringe badger]

Physical and magical was definitely more of an intuition mechanic before the patch but we have the power now

[dusty blaze]

game be like
drops pots and pans on ur head
magic btw

[versed hill]

80% of the time "oh that looks physical" its magic

[gloomy flare]

good god the pld changes

[fringe badger]

Yeah cause kefka used it

[mellow nymph]

The day a South America Data Center opens (pray) Behemoth is definitely getting transfered

[gloomy flare]

they should have sent a poet

[slow robin]

I've never played PLD before, is it stronger now?

[dusty blaze]

hits you with a rock (physical)
hits you with a different rock (magical)

[zenith turtle]

Behemoth is kinda like Ohio, someone said to me today

[simple estuary]

sorry i was taking ap eek at the patch notes but why the hell are they adding a tanks version of undraw to the game

im so confused

[mellow nymph]

No idea yet

[fringe badger]

Magical earth damage admist physical aoes is my favorite tbh

[gloomy flare]

easier to use? yes. stronger? no clue yet.

[shut oyster]

i'm pretty sure is just like dance partner now

[versed hill]

Its not the same as undraw

[latent flume]

No clue. Even reading the Job Guide gave me no real answer

[ashen kelp]

Early reports indicate no

[sour cradle]

RIP Tonberry when OC dropped

[signal roost]

What time does Patch normally drop

[plain dove]

so people stop unstancing by accident.

[gloomy flare]

thank you yoshi-p for banishing the nasty DoTs

[slow robin]

ahh, hmm... just reading the job changes and noticed how a lot of skills have lower potency

[gloomy flare]

circle of scorn is fine

[simple estuary]

pretty sure it says "effect ends on reuse" though in the beginners guide

(it was updated)

[oak pike]

So far answer is probably

[ashen kelp]

It's not anywhere near as easy to use as before

[gloomy flare]

melee damage is down, spell damage is up as long as you dont waste requiescat like a dummy

[simple estuary]

im saying that useless like undraw

that its usless as undraw i mean

[oak pike]

?

[fringe badger]

In the case of confiteor buttons, those are buffed by flight now, so the numbers are actually higher

[latent flume]

Some ppl might use it. I won't be

[gloomy flare]

you're no longer fucked forever if your rotation gets disrupted

[sour cradle]

I'm pretty sure the release stance actions will overwrite the stance button

[gloomy flare]

you just have a standard 2min burst window now

[slow robin]

ohhh I see, I see, thx for the insight just thinking about trying PLD sometime in the future

[frigid isle]

Omg yayu divine veil is now braindead easier to use/time

[oak pike]

1min

[gloomy flare]

right

[simple estuary]

why would you undraw when redraw/play exists though

[fringe badger]

Release stances will most likely overwrite yeah

[latent flume]

Exactly

[plain dove]

this would literally be the exact same. They are two seperate buttons now or it would not have been changed.

[gloomy flare]

goring blade is now a big spank like carve and spit

oGCD

[plain dove]

it's a gcd

[gloomy flare]

welp

[oak pike]

Double down but single target

[fringe badger]

It's like double down but less cool and doesn't make you hate existence

[sour cradle]

oh then in that case they really did just add 4 undraws to the game

[earnest vine]

I guess readability? The idea was so that people wouldn't accidentally turn off tank stance, so I guess if the icon changes that would be an indicator?

[oak pike]

But yeah paladin don’t have to deal with two buffs that can’t be stacked

[sour cradle]

so much for button bloat

[gloomy flare]

no more dot management yaaaaay

divine might is cool too

[earnest vine]

If it doesn't overwrite stance I dunno what I'm gonna do, my hotbars are already full

[shut oyster]

what part of "it works like dancer partner" do you all not get

lmao

[rain onyx]

No they swap with the stance button

[ashen kelp]

Spell damage is actually down overall before applying buffs

[gloomy flare]

even though it means we have a 4-button ST combo lmao

[cedar moat]

It says "interchanging" so it swaps with the Stance button

[plain dove]

this is how it already worked though.

[simple estuary]

if the release stances arent new buttons it doesnt specify it on the new starter guides on the site at least (doesnt say like "this cannot be assigned to a hotbar" or anytihng)

[shut oyster]

yeah it's just that they added a visual indicator

that is all

[gloomy flare]

ohhh

[iron birch]

It doesn't say that either for dance partner, ye

[sour cradle]

so in other words I've been attacked with misinformation because that's what I thought it did

[latent flume]

Guess we'll have to wait and see

[gloomy flare]

so it just changes to release when you have stance on?

[ashen kelp]

Because remember you're going from 4 hs, confetior combo (which was around 5k before dots) to just confetior under fof which is around 4.1k

[simple estuary]

ah i never checked dancer so i didnt know

[simple estuary]

thats good i guess but its so confusing LOL

seriosuly thought they just added undraw for tanks 😭

[shut oyster]

ending, ends you

[plain dove]

i blame the localizers for not speaking in plain english >.>

[simple estuary]

i wouldnt be surprised since undraw unfortunately, still exists

[sour cradle]

when are they going to drop undraw from ast tho

[subtle onyx]

I mean, it makes perfect sense once you get in game lol

[plain dove]

7.0 prob

[fringe badger]

If pld's numbers end up scuffed, they'll likely be updated with ultimate release

[shut oyster]

I mean to be fair it would be funny if you needed an extra button to manually turn off, imagine the YPYT how they would feel

[ashen kelp]

Soon as they drop clemency and the oath gauge

[latent flume]

Removed Undraw from my hotbars AGES ago

[fringe badger]

Just don't remove play from your bar like I did lol

[sour cradle]

I just can't believe they left undraw in the game when they moved to endwalker and were forced to look at ast again

[plain dove]

like, if undraw actually gave you something for pitching the card, it would be possibly useful.

[oak pike]

paladin is overall healthy with the current way the game is designed

all your damage being caught in buff windows is big overall

[fringe badger]

Pld can kill adds, I pog

[simple estuary]

it would be funny if undraw did have a use but the fact its literally just the same as right clicking the status on your bar....

[ashen kelp]

No, it's not. You're forgetting PLD's still tied to that god forsaken oath gauge

[gloomy flare]

wait

[oak pike]

oath gauge is ok

[viscid monolith]

Dude the Oath Gauge doesn't matter for damage what are you on

[fringe badger]

The gauge you always over cap on

[gloomy flare]

is bulwark oath gauge?

[simple estuary]

i use cover but only as a joke TBH since the times where i could get use out of it the range is way too short (like covering a blm or something)

[frigid isle]

WAR has more heals 🤭🤭

[oak pike]

nope

[chilly bluff]

Bulwark is free

[gloomy flare]

oh that's good

[plain dove]

war is baby tank tho

[gloomy flare]

what CD?

[ashen kelp]

I'm also taking into account defensives dude

[torpid yoke]

Yes

[oak pike]

90 seconds @gloomy flare

[shut oyster]

yeah, they bring it back

[fringe badger]

Do people actually ride the limits on their oath gauge? You even start pulls with 100 lol

[shut oyster]

they just bring back two old buttons this patch lmao

[viscid monolith]

And the defensives will be fine too

[gloomy flare]

holy moly we now have three long-CD mits

eating well

[oak pike]

idk how you blow through your oath gauge like thatcyrella

[gloomy flare]

and holy sheltron is still just useful to spam

[plain dove]

Holy shelltron being a 28% mit you can use every 30s essentially is wild.

[ashen kelp]

This tier it's impossible under certain circumstances to sheltron yourself and also intervention your cotank. The old rotation mitigated that by giving us 9 gcds of 400 potency heals in a row

[gloomy flare]

like most of the time i dont even use my mitigation CDs because holy sheltron soaks so much

i just pop it on tankbusters and am fine

[oak pike]

??? you always have full oath gauge for busters

[fringe badger]

They just nerfed every tank buster on pld

What are you even saying

[ashen kelp]

Which is important if say.... like idk the tbs also gave a massive bleed?

[oak pike]

yeah and sheltron got buffed to accomidate that

[fringe badger]

They get mitigated properly though, where is the issue?

[gloomy flare]

makes sense that the only person smart enough to bring a fucking shield would take less damage right

[oak pike]

and bulwark now just the unique 90 second cooldown all tanks have

[fringe badger]

Just don't intervention if you're riding the gauge

It's not rocket science

[sour cradle]

other tanks have cds too

[ashen kelp]

That's my point. You should be able to do both.

[fringe badger]

They have largely better cds

[plain dove]

why do people have to act high and mighty about a mit strategy becoming slightly easier?

[oak pike]

you are able to do both as paladin

[plain dove]

like actually why?

[somber storm]

Omg, corgi earring and handkerchief

[frigid isle]

Im confused about marksmans mastery trait

[plain dove]

and a minion!!!!

[fringe badger]

Having more to do on tank is the price plds pay

[ashen kelp]

Tank p5s then and try it on the 2nd tb.

[earnest vine]

talking about the important things here!

[oak pike]

i did @ashen kelp

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-corgi-look-cute-corgi-happy-corgi-brenfam-gif-22640867

[fringe badger]

Intervention is not going to make or break a run

[oak pike]

usually cutting it close

[plain dove]

i want himb

[earnest vine]

Corgi handerkerchief is the best item in the game now and will be going on all my outfits, now we just have to figure out where it's from

[ashen kelp]

Cool. Then you should know that if say... your ping's a bit of an issue that it's way too close for comfort

[signal folio]

I think its under the khloe stuff so i imagine there

[somber storm]

Looks like it's Khloe stuff

[plain dove]

Wondrous tale certificates

[earnest vine]

Makes sense

[fringe badger]

With what? Getting 50 gauge intime?

Just don't bottom out your gauge

[gloomy flare]

my 100+ ping ass picked the perfect time to start leveling mch

[oak pike]

if ping making you lose auto attacks then thats a major issue

[ashen kelp]

The first buster pair and 2nd buster pair are too close together for that to not occur enough.

[gaunt star]

☝️ can confirm that its not possible to hs + intervention the 2nd tb in p5s if youre doing it on the first

[earnest vine]

Hope they also show up under faux leaves, that'd make things easier

[sour cradle]

why do you need both

[signal folio]

You dont

[oak pike]

you dont but its nice

[fringe badger]

If the concern is the tank eating autos dying, you just prioritize intervention on the person eating the 2nd hit

[gaunt star]

I dont 'need' either but my healers dont like it when I dont hit mitigation as it turns out

[oak pike]

makes you feel like a mitigation god

[plain dove]

now you'l get it with a single HS.

[ashen kelp]

it makes the healer's lives easier and is more indicitive of the issues with later fights such as p8 where I heard you absolutely can't

[gloomy flare]

me, pulling wall-to-wall on EXDR while forgetting that arms length is actually mitigation

and wondering why im getting chunked

[oak pike]

So it place paladin in the same spot as other tanks where their short cd is either used on themselves or partner

[gloomy flare]

i'm too used to 8-man content and saving arms length as a 'fuck your mechanic' button

[signal folio]

I mean doesnt just using bulwark there do the same thing

Except now you can use both

[mellow nymph]

Im so happy i can finally play MCH

[oak pike]

Wouldn’t mitigate the dot

[plain dove]

bulwark does nothing to a tank buster with a dot...

[fringe badger]

Kind of, but only for the hit, not the dot

[mellow nymph]

After i finish SGE and SAM its MCH time

[oak pike]

Bulwark would mitigate the first hit but not the dot

[gloomy flare]

i mean i could play mch already i just had to go maximum unga bunga during hypercharge

[signal folio]

It does something just not to the dot damage, same as shelltron did before

[fringe badger]

The dot isn't the scary part with venemous mass though. You're not eating autos there

[mellow nymph]

VENOMOUS MASS

[plain dove]

Holy shelltron did mitigate the dot too

[rose arch]

Anyone know what time download is available?

[plain dove]

cause it has 4s of 15% mit

[oak pike]

Partly did, the block didn’t mitigate the dot

[gloomy flare]

yeah block doesnt do shit against say, P8 buster

[oak pike]

Initial hit yeah, dot no

[plain dove]

now HS will have 4s of 28% mit, then another 4s of 15%

[fringe badger]

Anyway, idk why I'm actually getting heated about pld lol. Gonna take a break before patch, night all

[sour perch]

kid named flameviper

[chilly bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It seems to be different with each patch lol

[plain dove]

check back in 3 hours

[pulsar yacht]

if we're lucky in a hour

[real tinsel]

Wait patch notes out?

[pulsar yacht]

I've given up waiting since running on fumes and gamer rage as is (energy wise)

[pine epoch]

oh?

[frigid isle]

Wait so you can download the patch before it’s released

[little ingot]

When can we login again

[real tinsel]

Mch changes.. nah im clearly still sleeping

[pulsar yacht]

patch notes have been up for a couple hours

[shut oyster]

it's real, we won

[pulsar yacht]

patch isn't public

[real tinsel]

No im going to wake up soon to a mch nerf

[pine epoch]

patch is downloadable sometime before it goes live

when who knows

[little ingot]

oh

[chilly bluff]

MCH got minor buffs to their 123 and oGCD's and they got Dismantle back.

[little ingot]

just checked, it goes live in 5 hrs

[chilly bluff]

They coming out of this pretty damn good

[shut oyster]

don't forget about hypercharge wildfire fix

they're stacks now

[real tinsel]

I can't believe they did more than a 1% buff this time

[chilly bluff]

Oh yeah that too

[plain dove]

hypercharge is now guaranteed 5 heat blasts

[gloomy flare]

if MCH got ping-fixed then maybe MNK will finally get a poke

[plain dove]

i mean, Riddle of Earth got buffed too

[gloomy flare]

she said with sarcasm in her voice

[noble zealot]

Maybe if i'm lucky Sqeenix will change some part of MNK that does need fixing. Looking at you Anatman

[versed hill]

Ping problems doesn't exist unless you play on console its 2023

[plain dove]

honestly, you stance shouldn't have a timer....

[iron birch]

More of a nerf

[shut oyster]

???

[gloomy flare]

yeah i'm playing on Excal from NZ and getting sub-150

fiber is amazing

[iron birch]

No, I can assure it is very much a thing

[ashen kelp]

I wouldn't say buffed, but it's definitely significantly easier to use

[plain dove]

it lasts the whole duration and give regen, yeah longer cooldown, but now it actually works.

[pulsar yacht]

maybe in 7.0 they will fix ~~muh stacks ~~ blitz inputs being about as user friendly as scholar is in dungeons with cooldown refusenix random tanks

[versed hill]

Well I mean, in doing mechs and getting stupid snapshots is a ping problem

[shut oyster]

are you /srs or /j because

[ashen kelp]

I'd like to remind you American internet exists

[sour perch]

riddle of earth rework is definitely less versatile than the old version

[oak pike]

Hot is nice on riddle of earth wild that it’s on 120 second cooldown now

[noble zealot]

RoE now has a niche use of "Get hit with alot of damage when the healer won't spam cure to fix it"

[versed hill]

/srs because I play on 120ms and never had issues playing MCH

[oak pike]

Gonna miss the charges

[gloomy flare]

scholar in leveling roulette aka 'oh god where did i put physick'

[sweet thorn]

Is the new deep dungeon being added tomrrow or sometime next week?

[shut oyster]

Well that's a you thing, I'd like to remind you, your experience is not the only one that exist lol

[slow robin]

https://youtu.be/bONjf8maz_4

[versed hill]

I do have a cousin called Alex though

[sour perch]

hee hee

[pulsar yacht]

6.35

[obtuse trout]

Ping issues 100% are a thing depending were u from

[sweet thorn]

[gloomy flare]

all US DCs are west coast though right?

[pulsar yacht]

yes sacramento cal

[frigid isle]

What are they showing for this?

[gloomy flare]

yep, explains why i get better ping from NZ than my partner in the UK does

[noble zealot]

I'm an Aussie MNK playing on a US DC because i hate myself.

[slow robin]

it's just a Patch Note reading

[gloomy flare]

NZ has a direct undersea link to san jose

[ashen kelp]

I think they're in Nevada, but the main point is that US internet infrastructure is a crapshoot and heaven forbid if say.... your ISP decides to go into a mafia shakedown with Squeenix's ISP cough cough fuck comcast cough cough

[shut oyster]

but yeah saying ping issues don't exist because it's 2023, I'm sorry, but like

no

[stuck roost]

RoE got cd nerfed to hell

[gloomy flare]

basically the only games i cant reliably play on US servers are FPS

[frigid isle]

Will they show some gameplay footage

[obtuse trout]

I don't think so

It's just patch note reading

[slow robin]

Hmmm, you could stay tuned to see, I might watch too

[ashen kelp]

Though I'm a weird American that plays on EU due to friends and a bad break up and while most of the time the game does behave at 120 ping it can be very.... jank depending on how the instance is feeling that day

[rain onyx]

no gameplay

just reading

[iron birch]

A FFXIV player wrost nightmare

Reading

[noble zealot]

RoE getting 60s or 90s nerf with this stuff i guess i could understand, but 2min is crazy

[rain onyx]

Sometimes they give a tidbit or two on some of the changes/adjustments but generally nothing too revealing

[noble zealot]

Atleast let me keep RoE charges

[ashen kelp]

No that's wow because wow's very bad at anything related to giving you meaningful directions without addons

[frigid isle]

Me not knowing how wildfire works until now 🤭

[gloomy flare]

hypercharge window will still be basically rolling your face over heat blast/gauss round/ricochet

[obtuse trout]

No ff players also can't read (some of them)

[gloomy flare]

just easier now

[knotty flicker]

when do we get the leaks? also will that be in #archived-lore-spoilers ?

[frigid isle]

But like

[pine epoch]

no here

[noble zealot]

probably in a thread here when that happens.

[pine epoch]

check channel description

[frigid isle]

Wait actually nvm

[shut oyster]

To be fair it's fun, it's just consistently fun now

[gloomy flare]

yep

[pine epoch]

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If you share information pertaining to datamined content, you do so entirely at your own risk, as it is a violation of the FFXIV User Agreement (Section 2.5 and 2.6, https://sqex.to/ffxiv_ua_na).

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[frigid isle]

If all your heatblasts stacks are done but there’s still hypercharge timer

[gloomy flare]

so will it be hypercharge>weave wildfire>faceroll now?

[iron birch]

Also all leak talk will need to be spoiler tagged

[plain dove]

there is no timer now

[ashen kelp]

It should basically just work like inner release, blood weapon, req and the like

[molten vine]

Can someone explain to me why PLD got nerfed into oblivion before I give SE the business

[gloomy flare]

or wildfire first?

[plain dove]

the stacks just last for 10s

[versed hill]

wildifre first so you can chainsaw into hc

[gloomy flare]

nerfed? what

[ashen kelp]

Because dots were 10% of their damage and it's hard to account for 10% being just flat out gone

[plain dove]

it was not nerfed my friend.

[versed hill]

the rotation isnt changing anyway

for mch

you just get more potency now

[gloomy flare]

DoTs delenda est

[ashen kelp]

Dots are sexy

[oak pike]

damage now compacted and fits into 2 min buffs

[versed hill]

PLD isn't nerfed because Goring lost an entire 3 potency lmao

[rain onyx]

yeah paladin's burst actually fits within buff windows now

so they get a boost from that

[molten vine]

Ok I suck at math

[gloomy flare]

they also made it harder to fuck up your spell phase

[oak pike]

all your big hits are magic attacks + goring blade

[frigid isle]

Someone breakdown what “exactly” a 2 min buff window is 👀

[gloomy flare]

tl;dr spell phase is just confiteor straight into swords now

[ashen kelp]

It already was hard to screw up your spell phase. It was basically untouched since SHB

[versed hill]

2min buff window are when raid buffs are up

they have 2minute cooldowns

[frigid isle]

OHH omg

[obtuse trout]

Nerfed???

[frigid isle]

No like I’ve been thinking about it WRONG the whole time

[gloomy flare]

holy spirit/circle are essentially just combo finishers at 90 now

[frigid isle]

I thought it was like

2 mins of buffs or sumn

[versed hill]

its kinda nerfed tbh the rotation has hardcast holy spirits now..

[frigid isle]

LMFAOO

[versed hill]

[gloomy flare]

nah

[oak pike]

hard cast where?

[gloomy flare]

divine might is instacast

[iron birch]

It is a different job

[versed hill]

3 hardcast in opener

to fit into pot

[primal basalt]

nah holy spirits are instant

[versed hill]

since its better than 1-2-3

and 3 hardcast/min to loop

[iron birch]

So if you look at it from the old prospective you're kinda fumbling

[ashen kelp]

Not under req or divine might

[oak pike]

yeah thats for the number nerds who gonna parse

[gloomy flare]

yeah but now goring is 700 inside pot

[iron birch]

Let people do the math and see how it goes

[versed hill]

Goring has always been 700 its just compacted now

[mellow nymph]

EXAMPLE: with Mnk, your Major Buff, Brotherhood, runs into a 120 secs cooldown system, you work to put all your major attacks, like 2 Perfect Balance stacks, into this window

[versed hill]

well 703 but 3 potency lole

[ashen kelp]

You're forgetting that was basically 700 twice a minute

[gloomy flare]

whatever i'll probably never do synced savage content

[frigid isle]

Yeahh I get it now. Me being a RDM main I get embolden ofc. I just confused with wording

It means buffs EVERY 2 minuts, not 2 MIN BUFFS

[ashen kelp]

so it's more like a 700 potency loss with the 60 second cd not counting fof

[mellow nymph]

Yeah in your case your Embolden buff runs into a 120sec cooldown system

So you work to put 2 Resolution Combos inside it

One through manafication

[versed hill]

the lost goring potency went into DMHS

[frigid isle]

I’m prob getting judged really hard rn lmao

[plain dove]

i mean, PLD has a similar opener to GNB now, at least from what I can piece together.

[frigid isle]

I’m a blue parser 🙃🙃

[mellow nymph]

Not at all, im a 2 year vet with no Ultimate after all.

[heady iron]

Nah, you're good, man.

[frigid isle]

I sucketh

[ashen kelp]

Blue parse is actually pretty decent

[brittle shuttle]

trying to figure out something very specific, though: Palace of the Dead paladin. It does not look good.

[gloomy flare]

i love my new four-button filler combo

[frigid isle]

Whaaaat why not? 2 years? U prob a pro lol

[plain dove]

I'm about to start TEA and don't expect pepsiman to stop kicking me in the teeth for like, 2 months.

[molten vine]

I'm a 6 year vet for no ultimate so

[somber storm]

Man, time to relearn pld

[mellow nymph]

Blue Parser is like you took a C+ Grade.

[frigid isle]

Its not when you tried to join a static recruitment for TOP and they said your parses are a tad but too low 🥲 I mean i totally get it lmao

[real tinsel]

Ultimates don't make you a good player. I know because I still suck

[molten vine]

Guess I'm too casual for it 😓

[frigid isle]

Im prob just gonna PUG prog TOP

[mellow nymph]

Cause Ultimates are hard, i only beat P1S and P2S on content after all

[gloomy flare]

extremes are my upper limit

[molten vine]

I cant go any higher than extreme

[mellow nymph]

Of course i can say my current best is Savage already but, i wish i could conclude a Tier at least

[gloomy flare]

i cant go back to progression raiding

[frigid isle]

Thats how i feel too after clearing P8S like 8 times now

[gloomy flare]

WoW broke me on that

[mellow nymph]

Dang i wish i could do it

[uneven condor]

I love day 1 clear chaos

[frigid isle]

Tbh if youve cleared extremes on patch you’re def ready for savage

It’s a tiny tiny step more difficult

[mellow nymph]

Well i did clear Endsinger and Hydaelin and Zodiark on patch back then XD

[oak pike]

@versed hill wait if you hard casting 3 times you gonna lose out on autos

i just thought about that rn

[versed hill]

ye

[frigid isle]

You just confidence!!! I believe in you ❤️ i swear you’re prob wayy better than me at the game lol

[versed hill]

potentially

[gloomy flare]

hard casting HS should only be for poke damage during mechanics lol

[oak pike]

i mean you dont auto while casting

[real tinsel]

First fight of the tier isn't that much harder than extreme. Doesn't hurt to try

[gloomy flare]

or on pull

[versed hill]

if an auto string is there then you miss it

[mellow nymph]

Maybe i should just try to do P8S already rather than doing the whole tier from the start, since that is the fight i wanna do the most

[frigid isle]

Uhhh as long as you have full lunar gear i guess? Augmented too

[oak pike]

i dont see hard casting HS being a thing tbh

[frigid isle]

If you wanna skip the first 3 floors

[mellow nymph]

Well my Mnk is level 612 currently

[gloomy flare]

I wanna do P8S just for the music ngl

[knotty flicker]

Can't wait to see the new raid

Want to hear the new In The Balance lol

[frigid isle]

I got the p8s mount and it agree it is a banger

[gloomy flare]

shout out to my FC for actually dropping money on the p8s orch roll for the house

[knotty flicker]

really hope its a good as that one

[mellow nymph]

WHITE STONE BLACK

[frigid isle]

Phase 2 ost plays when u mount it

[iron birch]

It was the song in the trailer iirc

[knotty flicker]

Right but the full version!

[mellow nymph]

I have no idea who is gonna be Pandæmonium final boss

[frigid isle]

Yeahh it’s giving disney soundtrack yet again

[iron birch]

Fair

[real tinsel]

For those who want to try savage but don't think they good enough.. you are good enough trust me. You can't be worse than some pf players it's just impossible

[iron birch]

Jenova athena

[gloomy flare]

My money's on Athena tbh

[frigid isle]

THIS AF

[iron birch]

That is the most quoted idea atm

[mellow nymph]

Hum...

[feral fable]

Man, im still in post arr, but I watched the 6.3 trailer and it looks sick

[knotty flicker]

Great Lord Master King Moogle Mog

[gloomy flare]

also watch it turn out that ARR-Lahabrea was actually Hephaistos.

[mellow nymph]

So its really gonna be the FF VII Reference huh

[frigid isle]

My first ever savage clears, i got 0 parse. No shame idgaf i got the loot lmfao

[mellow nymph]

I meam at this point we had

[frigid isle]

Where

[iron birch]

This, but it is athena

Also TBF we dunno

[sturdy minnow]

Mother….

[iron birch]

Could be something different

[knotty flicker]

honestly still surprised we haven't gotten Sephiroth. Especially the One Winged Angel Safer Sephiroth

[pulsar yacht]

and then we killed the giant furby

[real tinsel]

Clear is a clear. Who even cares about parses when trying to clear

[gloomy flare]

because like

[iron birch]

Ff7 is very much the "break in case of emergency"

And also remake is going on at the same time

[somber storm]

Jenova

[gloomy flare]

now that we've met unsundered lahabrea, he seems WAY too rational to be the nutcase we dealt with in ARR

[gaunt star]

Seeing these changes makes me wish they showed em off

[pulsar yacht]

athena will probably be p11 boss and heart of sabik is p12/s

[real tinsel]

Yes been waiting for sabik

[mellow nymph]

ARR = Bahamut Prime
HW= Alexander Prime
SB= Omega (FF VI Ref)
ShB= Eden Prime/Ultimecia allusion (FF VIII Ref)
And now we on Pandaemonium which i thought was going to be a FF II Ref.

[gloomy flare]

and like

hephaistos has the whole possession thing going on

[sturdy minnow]

Im betting lahabread we deal with in the future is his copy or his son

[frigid isle]

No but those 0 parses almost made me quit the game altogether. It made me lose all my motivation and ruined my self esteem and confidence in the game

I had to change my main job bc of that

[gloomy flare]

yeah that's what my thought is

[iron birch]

TBF I just think Lahabrea rejoins Hephistatos

[frigid isle]

They’re the same person wym

[mellow nymph]

To be frank i would only care about my parse if it turns out i did no work at all during raid

[gloomy flare]

also just imagining Hades' reaction chilling in the lifestream and his dumbass coworker's fucked-up zoo is suddenly there

[iron birch]

Ye, but they're separated atm

[gloomy flare]

'nope, too dead to be dealing with this byyyyye'

[mellow nymph]

Considering i did beat some content that needed dps checks, i believe my Parse is good.

[plain dove]

lmao

[knotty flicker]

I'm still holding out hope for ||Zeromus|| in the MSQ

[real tinsel]

I love my zero parses. Sadly my p5s zero parse is no more zero

[mellow nymph]

To be frank

I actually thought he was gonna be EW final boss XD

[knotty flicker]

Same xD

[mellow nymph]

Either it or Chaos i guess.

[normal gust]

My guess is its his son who ||all the body swapping let his mothers experimentation on him take him over. Like maybe she possesses him somehow since only Lahabrea Sr. knew about her experiments||

[plain dove]

CHAOS

[knotty flicker]

Its okay tho we got ||Twitter birb||

[mellow nymph]

But i prefer Endsinger cause it makes EW stand alone

All our Trials are new to the series

In this Expac

[gloomy flare]

for 6.0 sure

[mellow nymph]

So the other games can now reference XIV too.

[frigid isle]

This was week 4 when I started tho 😭

[sturdy minnow]

Wait no what if the lahabrea we know is the mother!!

[plain dove]

O_O

[obtuse trout]

I learned that to me parse means fuck all cuz I shouldn't give a fuck about random colored numbers

[knotty flicker]

Lahabread is actually Sephiroth

[frigid isle]

Abyssos is my first ever savage tier and i started at week 4

[iron birch]

barbariccia enters the stage

[tawny relic]

Hephaistos, tho

[primal basalt]

but how are you gonna measure your dick if you don’t parse

[gloomy flare]

yes exactly my point

[sturdy minnow]

Best girl

[mellow nymph]

Yeah but im commenting on the 6.0 content XD

[frigid isle]

I want either ff9 referance or ff2 pls

[mellow nymph]

Sorry for miscommunication

[heady iron]

If my head-canon is anything to go by, we'll be going down that route by ||either 6.4 or 6.5||.

[iron birch]

Fair fair

[knotty flicker]

I was hoping that Barbi would have her tornado attack

[iron birch]

But FFXIV will always be a mix of FF reference, that's all

[knotty flicker]

but that works too

[mellow nymph]

I wonder what next expac name gonna be

[iron birch]

It is her phase transition

[knotty flicker]

I'm really hoping for that

[mellow nymph]

We running out of real cool names to use

[gloomy flare]

i'm just glad we're getting the void crap out of the way in 6.x so we can go to meracydia in 7.0

[iron birch]

Nah

[frigid isle]

Outta pocket 💀🤚

[mellow nymph]

XIV expac names are so good

[tawny relic]

You could argue that the Endsinger is that, thematically

[iron birch]

We have plenty of cool names

[pulsar yacht]

wish granted: we get necron complete with the same lack of context

[knotty flicker]

right but this one
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/8/8d/Valvalis_FFIV_iOs_Battle.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20130506111219

[mellow nymph]

That is true considering she embodies emotions itself

[runic pelican]

What Orchestrations are in

[mellow nymph]

Im thinking next expac might be a Reaper centric one so...

[knotty flicker]

came expecting tornado. Got stepped on instead

[iron birch]

Too early to say

[native drum]

So for gladiator is this a big nerf a buff or what

[gloomy flare]

gotta say my first time in storm's crown i wasn't expecting swole bayonetta yeah

[tawny relic]

And also just the concept of the hatred of something dead towards all life

[mellow nymph]

Ultima Thule was sooooooooo good.

[knotty flicker]

Whispers...

[gloomy flare]

i'm finally doing the omicron quests

so good

[mellow nymph]

Never saw something so dreadful be so beautiful also

[native drum]

Are the gladiator stuff a nerf or buff or somewhere in the middle

[iron birch]

Somewhere in the middle

It is just a change to make it fit the 2 minutes meta

[pulsar yacht]

50 and below paladin is a mixed bag. a very ugly bag

[gloomy flare]

you're no longer horribly scrungled if you hit a button even slightly too late

[mellow nymph]

My bet is that we gonna fight Cagnazzo in this patch

[knotty flicker]

If they do Zeromus I hope its FF4 Zeromus and not 12 xD
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/c/cb/Zeromus.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080526093132

[native drum]

The what meta

[stuck roost]

The meta that exist at end game

[iron birch]

I expect a dual trial with Rubicante absorbing Cagnazzo in phase 2

[mellow nymph]

That looks like XII Zeromus also tough.

[frigid isle]

I thought P12 would be mateus

[tawny relic]

The two-minute burst window design

[mellow nymph]

Do fire and water even mix like that?

[gloomy flare]

it'll probably be one archfiend in the dungeon and the other in the trial

[knotty flicker]

It is XII Zeromus

[mellow nymph]

Oh

Makes sense

[iron birch]

Pretty often in fantasy uronically

[pulsar yacht]

I still would prefer to see easy type zeromus since it can account for ||zero being killed off by golbeze||

[mellow nymph]

Has been sometime

[somber storm]

Just want to remind everyone that P8 has freaki giant eye in the background

[mellow nymph]

Hum maybe if this Cagnazzo is Ice based

[stuck roost]

Fire and water give steam

[knotty flicker]

ah this one
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/f/f3/Zeromus_EG_PSP.png/revision/latest?cb=20110616181953

[iron birch]

Nah, I think they'll both be the trial, but also they could do it that way

[gloomy flare]

and P8S sends you to the flesh dimension

[stuck roost]

So yeah can definitely mix them

[frigid isle]

It’s giving nemesis/mr X from resident evil

[knotty flicker]

still don't know wtf the devs were thinking xD

[mellow nymph]

Kekkei genkai, Boil Release.

[knotty flicker]

big monster with girl sticking out of its pelvis

[iron birch]

From stranger of Paradise for example

[tawny relic]

More Birkin than Mr. X, IMO

[heady iron]

What?

[mellow nymph]

The fiends on SoP are the og ones tough

[native drum]

What time will servers be back up

[heady iron]

...Oh my God, I see it now. After all these years, what were they on with that design?

[candid sorrel]

I thought they were adding a 'White board' feature for people to doodle mechanics? Any mention of that in notes

[tawny relic]

Another four hours

[vital falcon]

Any datamines so far ?

[mellow nymph]

Just wait for 7 am, and my RPR will be ready to roll

Gonna do it as a RPR this time

[iron birch]

Come back when the patch is downable, until then nothing

[pulsar yacht]

it represents the unspoken lore behind the lunartarians and how zeromus was consumed by hate and sealed up for their own good

[frigid isle]

Ouuu are you talking about that one final boss battle at umbrella underground laboratory

[gloomy flare]

i'm probably going to do a level roulette on MCH to celebrate not being ping-gated

[knotty flicker]

wait really? Or did you head canon that O_O

[iron birch]

Ye, but it has a fire and water boss

[frigid isle]

My MCH at level 87 soooo

[mellow nymph]

Anyway im going now, gonna sleep a bit so i can clean house in the morning and then hop right in onto XIV

[frigid isle]

I literally have no choice but to play that job haha

[pulsar yacht]

it was expanded in TAY

[mellow nymph]

Good luck tomorrow and MATRON TITS

[knotty flicker]

I thought The After Years used Zeromus's Malice which used the OG sprite

But hmm maybe I need to replay TAY

[iron birch]

May Nophica bosom be with you

[pulsar yacht]

i might be also thinking the gba/psp post game dungeon (which uses easytype sprite)

but def afteryears for story

[gloomy flare]

savage is weird for me because the amount of complexity is cool as hell but i just wish i could do it without causing a wipe with a single fuckup

[knotty flicker]

Ah gotcha

[gloomy flare]

give me savage lite with all the mechanics but a normal amount of punishment

[mellow nymph]

May the Matron Honkadonkabadonkadonkers be with you

[knotty flicker]

Either way gimme Zeromus pls Yoshi-P and I'll buy XVI twice
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/52/3f/f8/523ff84dba89a511b904a80af393ea0f.jpg

[iron birch]

Tbf

I don't expect to see classic zeromus

[frigid isle]

Dude thats ok, that happens all the time

[molten vine]

Holy sh that artwork tho

[frigid isle]

I believe you can do it 👍

[iron birch]

At best we'll get a redesign with zero if she turns to be zerosus

[frigid isle]

If you know how to play a job effectively then you can defo do savage

[knotty flicker]

as long as they use the Final Battle music

[mellow nymph]

She is the woman on Zeromus FF IV Model

[gloomy flare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOXz6y7FMo4

[mellow nymph]

[real tinsel]

I should really play ff4

[knotty flicker]

Yes

[mellow nymph]

Me too

[knotty flicker]

4 is my favorite lol

[frigid isle]

Dont PLAY DS version

Wtvr u do

[mellow nymph]

I like both PLD and DRK way too much to not give in to the duality

[knotty flicker]

I like the DS script more tbh

[heady iron]

Why? What's wrong with the DS release?

[mellow nymph]

Plus EW is my favorite expac tied with HW so...

[molten vine]

Are Final Fantasy's 1-6 worth playing

[real tinsel]

Current playing through ff6

[mellow nymph]

Oh a Faufau emote

[strange quest]

Hell yeah

[frigid isle]

1-3 is meh, franchise didnt establish itself too mucb

[mellow nymph]

Noice

[pallid girder]

As a Warrior of Light, I can have self control. And self control is what you need to be the perfect champion of Hydaelyn. This Nophica that I'm going to fight, not only am I not gonna look at anything sexual, I'm gonna complete the whole boss fight without looking at a single butt, or a single boob. This boss fight is going to be the easiest challenge of my life. And I will prove to all the other Warriors of Light that we don't need to look at boobs. We can look at people for who they are. I, Derplander, I will represent all the WoLs, and I will not look at a single boob, and I will not look at a single butt in this fight! LET'S GO!!!

[gloomy flare]

i should maybe do unreal this patch

[frigid isle]

4-6 are more polished games

[knotty flicker]

2 is the hardest for me

[gloomy flare]

i was gonna do sephirot but then i remember how sephirot is pain

[knotty flicker]

SE
PHI
ROT

[iron birch]

The Ds version is the best version of FF4 too

[frigid isle]

Just do ex 5

[mellow nymph]

I cant believe someone did this XD

[frigid isle]

You have nothing to lose i promise

[mellow nymph]

Is the fight this infamous already

I swear when i reach the fight later this day im gonna scream in chat NOPHICA TEATS

[pallid girder]

"UWOUUUUGH SEGS"

[primal basalt]

people have been talking about matron’s teats for years

[mellow nymph]

FINALLY NOPHICA TEATS

[pallid girder]

Nophica's teats! You must be 'ungry!

[sturdy minnow]

Bet she has a skull for a face

[normal gust]

The community has been weirdly thirsty about Nohpica because they only show her from behind in the trailer and all the matrons teats memes much like thals balls

[mellow nymph]

Possibly

But the rest? My char will hit it

[spice vessel]

matrons teats

[mellow nymph]

We had Thals Balls after all, time for the Matron Balls too

[iron birch]

This fight in general is almost all ladies, that's all

[primal basalt]

followed by, uh, oschon’s… ass?

[gloomy flare]

https://twitter.com/surfacage/status/1612493997607620608

surfaçage (@surfacage)

are yall paladins ok

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Twitter · Jan 9, 2023, 4:58 PM

[wary perch]

I always do alliance before msq anyway
Gonna see what they did that they purposely hide it lol

[mellow nymph]

Lynlaen globe where she navigates

[keen veldt]

the thirst actually made them showed her from behind only not the opposite

[normal gust]

Whatever you do dont learn the lore about Menphina, Nymeia, and Althyk

[iron birch]

Dw

[gloomy flare]

lmfao this reply to that tweet https://twitter.com/Phattony92/status/1612495825606967296

Phattony92 (@Phattony92)

@surfacage What I expect to see tomorrow. So, I'm going to go with a resounding no we are not ok.

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Twitter · Jan 9, 2023, 5:05 PM

[iron birch]

They made that up

[mellow nymph]

Considering the little tease we got, i really hope the minion is Nophica

[mellow nymph]

AW CMON WHAT THE F?

[iron birch]

I hope the minion is Halone

[mellow nymph]

XD

[iron birch]

Cause I like her design better

[heady iron]

The Brightest Dawn

[gloomy flare]

you got WoW ret paladin in my ff14 damnit

[mellow nymph]

Yeah having Iced Malenia would be cool too.

[mellow nymph]

I DONT PLAY PLD FOR DAMAGE SE!

[primal basalt]

fucking doomers

[gloomy flare]

it's not real lol

look at the design of the buttons

[mellow nymph]

What would Shadowbringer equivalent be?

[iron birch]

Can't wait for pld best tank moment in a week

[mellow nymph]

Lightcaller?

[gloomy flare]

Lightbringer duh

[rain onyx]

endwalker

[strange wing]

Ashbringer

[mellow nymph]

Not really PLD like id say

[strange wing]

Alternatively, Heveansward

[mellow nymph]

OOOH GOOD ONE

[primal basalt]

they should just lock these channels until the patch actually goes live to save our collective sanity

[gloomy flare]

https://twitter.com/RaRaSanpou/status/1611860678876303360

Soup Catte Kelas'ra | 6.2 Spoilers (@RaRaSanpou)

If your tank friends dont actively try to kill you at least once a tier, are they really your friends?

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Twitter · Jan 7, 2023, 11:01 PM

[iron birch]

That's for DRG too

[heady iron]

Hmm. Server sent an "invalid response" rather than a typical "maintenance" response. Pre-patch incoming?

[strange wing]

Dragoon would be Wrath of the Horde

[mellow nymph]

They should put a move based on the expac for the job focus

[chilly bluff]

IT"S PATCHING FOR ME

[iron birch]

I mean

[mellow nymph]

Mnk should have a Stormblood

[knotty flicker]

I still can't believe we never got a Cecil minion but we got literally everyone else in the main party xD (except for Tellah and Cid)

[gloomy flare]

also, friendly reminder to set up your instant portraits

[iron birch]

DRG has nastrond from Nhidogg

[misty ridge]

Wait... did they add a cancel tank stance button that is seperate from the old one?

[gloomy flare]

dont wanna be a-posing in the commendation screen

[elder rock]

I’m getting dumb errors

[iron birch]

Drk gets shadowbringer

[gloomy flare]

it's like dance partner

[mellow nymph]

Cause of the new Duty Finder?

[iron birch]

No, it works like dnc

[chilly bluff]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[gloomy flare]

si

[iron birch]

Ye

[iron birch]

Patch is up, I take?

[knotty flicker]

thought the patch was up lol

[strange wing]

Reaper gets Endwalker

[mellow nymph]

Okay time to make SPOOPY SLICE RPR

[knotty flicker]

oh!

it begins

[heady iron]

[mellow nymph]

THE SPOOKY SLICE!

[sturdy minnow]

Ps5 patch is up

[strange wing]

I thought maintenance wasn't over for hours

[gloomy flare]

haha fast launcher goes brrrrr

[heady iron]

AH! The patch just hit! Let's go!

[mellow nymph]

What abominable enshroud is this?

[untold gull]

oh interesting, launcher update as well

[heady iron]

Gosh dang, 3.2GB worth of data for me.

[normal gust]

Well at least they are doom posting rather than dealing with the cursed realities of the fact that Althyk groomed Nymeia

#Greek Mythology Moment

[heady iron]

Good thing pre-patching exists.

[oak pike]

patch comes out first then we wait til servers comes on

[knotty flicker]

yep PS5 is updating

[knotty flicker]

so is PC

https://tenor.com/view/wait-harry-potter-hermioney-waiting-gif-5801812