#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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At 620 you see the start of Hello World
The monk weapons from o12s look sick as fuck
In my experience, life finds a way,
Finally a good monk ultimate wep? 
But yeah it won’t be too much of a hassle
Provided no one dies you can DPS him down during Hello World before it causes a wipe
Most of p8s weapons looks like old relics tbf
Or in my rare case, everyone wipes except the GNB through superbolide somehow
Though I think when I last did it we were 5 manning
Actually looks decent for most part.. Now if only I can find decent party for it
Just get 8 dps
Or 1 tank and 7 dps
Ez kill
Even at 580 you can skip hello
Does patch still kill?
watch me clear euphrosyne within first hour of servers going up lol
Most people will do MSQ first
going for world first speedrun
It took me 1 hour to queue for aglaia on day one for example
jk thatd require skipping cutscenes which is stinky
Cause everyone was doing msq
anything can be a world race if you want 
actually now that you said it, alliance raid speedruns sounds fun
why are these being removed
They’re largely redundant, ig
I see
Instead of going and doing those, you can just buy the items with poetics
NPC moves to being part of Deep dungeon questline
I dont play blm
and you see everything freeze and explode
if ur not in a rush to get it you can do frontline roulette and just brain off
u'll get it eventually
it gives good xp aswell for a job daily
queue as job u want xp > swap when u get in

It was already explained why they're being removed, but I believe YoshiP mentioned in the live letter that there's a bit of extra dialogue if you have them done. So if you haven't done them yet, probably wouldn't hurt to do so
All it takes is doing each CT raid
Yeah, it was just a weekly grind for an old upgrade material and an old relic material, iirc
pog
Would be way better
bêêêêêtter
bigger sheepier is better
Ahahahahaha finally lmao
Is the new mount that costs mgp going to be a multiple person mount? It definitely looks huge enough to support 2+ people 
Ye
I think they had talked about it and it should be
You can see it briefly in the menu
Cause they said players wanted more free multi seater mounts
If it is 2 or 4 we dunno
Please be 4
do y'all actually managed to fill 4 seats
xel said it was 4 seats
from the menu in the ll
If it’s a 4-seater I won’t be surprised if it’s like 5m MGP
Lowest I’m expecting is 2m to tie with the gold saucer cactuar mount
Who has friends to fit four seats?
I filled my Skyslipper to capacity a few times
Rare, but not impossible
Now, filling a Lunar Whale up gotta be an achievement...

"come to idyllshire on malboro if you want your ass kicked"
next time on a hunt, you ask other to hop on the whalemobile
waymarks should just be infinite since all the waymark info is stored on the client
P5s-p8s reclears will still be weekly reward right?
sadly yes

i dont understand why but thats how they do it
it unlocks like 2 weeks before next savage or something?
It uncaps in like .37 or so
But yeah, that message is just the armor tokens from normal
I know this has been discussed but I love that this can cause system stress 
Spaghetti code I guess
caster 
I wonder where the system stress comes from, needing to run all the UI elements required?
Only for those still running core 2 duo
And taking the character packets to display everyone’s stuff insviudailly??
Like it’s the same info you get for targeting them, just on a diff element
Ah well, classic 14 spaghet
Oh and you can tell it’s the same system bc it reflects the green timers for stuff you applied.
time to kitchen sink my mitigation to crash peoples game /s
I dont think aspho uncapped until 6.2
It was a random hotfix iirc not a numbered patch
Just chcecked, it was 6.18
Which was, 7/4, and 6.2 was…
8/23
So almost a couple months between unlocking and the next tier, tbf
Er, and Abyssos Sav was the week of the 30th
Dont say that 🥹 it felt like 2 weeks!!!! god time is moving too fast...
(i remembered wrong)
But yeah I pulled it from here: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/patchnote_log/
Which is just significant patch stuffs, er, too significant to be minor hotfix notes.
…6.28 was Halloween? Christ, time really is an illusion.
What energy does this sit give you
personally I'm getting strong waiting for my turn on the xbox vibes
Oh wait yeah, that tracks for roughly two months
It gives the Lalafell going “he said no pickles.”
so true
tbf you can run this on pretty low hardware
so makes sense
Hrothgar just looks like he pressed "Try On" on brand new headgear that should be designed with them in mind

one day hroth will be able to use early to rise
at least 4 months between patches will do that to you + holidays
One message removed from a suspended account.
tbf they probably tested the maximum case in their testing
iterate over 8 entities, up to 30 effects each, calculate remaining time, render to screen, with exact timings
am i the only one who thinks 30 waymarks still isnt enough 😅
probably yes
30 gets you every endwalker savage + ex trial + all ultimates plus some for old content to spare
thats not cope, they literally adding more hair this patch
then it shall be a lesson to start using macros like normal people
impossible
NA is too dumb
and stubborn
Patch looks good
very good
I'm more excited for 30 waymark saves than I am for any of the other QoL changes. Although buff/debuff timers on the party frames is a close second.
portraits for party finder is honestly really good
but being able to adjust the UI with EVERY ui available element at once is a godsend!
This pleases me
tbf some people are still playing on potato pcs
How many catboys/bunboys in Dirndl's Bodice + 2B leggings will there be in Seraph Limsa next week
Were the paladin changes posted? Might have understood that there are some this patch
No
They generally don't put job balance changes in preliminary patch notes
Oh, understood, thanks
by the way, the new hair for hrothgar is old ported hair right? I don't know wich hair specifically are those and if I have to unlock them
oh one is just rainmaker yeah
Yeah I figure out wich one is the first one already
When is 6.3 hitting?
jan 10th
tuesday
Gathering and crafting food
New crafting and gathering gear to make too
Anybody got an alternate link to patch notes for those of us at work
Honestly there's nothing to read.
Usual patch crap
Everyone's posted everything remotely relevant here already
Best stuff is this
I just hope we can rename those waymark slots
And you'll be able to read the full notes on Monday night anyways
Best bet is probably going to be waiting until after work. It's nothing so momentous it needs to be in your brainpan right right meow.
That's brilliant, but I like this
Yeah but how do I waste time for the last hour of work if I don't have patch notes
The link is there
ERP in the forbidden nym pond
🥵
But when can we swim in the water by Alexander
Babe, are you wearing protection? I don't wanna catch green

We've been seeing Nym for years, all of the right side of Upper La Noscea was part of Nym
Submerged nym
I wanted nymph tho
Now we need the Secret of Nym
Best response: I'm doing it raw cuz I'd still tap if you had a flipper tail


Would you still love me if I was a tonberry
Yes
there was a whole questline about that
Alka Zolka the real GOAT
I still love everyone's reaction to that cutscene from what I've scene
When they see all the other Job NPC's: "Oh neat"
When the see Alka Zolka: "THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT, THE GOAT"
Unless it's the potato brothers
Tbh any potato in general really
Maybe one day job people will get a voice
I'm forever salty Y'mitra didn't say a fucking word in the cutscene where we pull Y'shtola out of the stream
It was a voiced scene too
And she just says nothing 
It still feels bizarre that only A-Ruhn Senna has gotten a voice out of all the job mentors.
Estinien doesn't really count.
He doesn't teach us anything.
Eh, A-Ruhn is important
He teaches us how not to be treat your elf husband
He is. He's just not popular is all.
It makes sense that the Seedseers are voiced, since they're Gridania's government
why pay four VAs for lines in a single scene if you have no sense the character is ever going to be in a voiced scene again and doesn't really play a critical role IN the scene? That's just needless overhead.
Bc SMN 
Well atleast it's not the Cid and Nero treatment
One voiced cutscene per expansion?
Cid: "yall fuckers built a spaceship and you didn't call me?"
Nero: "yall fuckers built a spaceship? I could build a better one."
If you're lucky?
I think Cid probably has the least voiced lines in the whole game out of any important NPC
Which is weird bc of how much he's around
Yeqh, but it's always side content
Nero's version of something better than Cid is making it exactly the same but red
Nero sulking in the Last Stands after seeing the ship
Well supposedly Nero is actually the better engineer like legitimately, but Cid was propped up on a pedestal because of his father. Mind you Cid actually is also incredibly talented.

feels like cid also makes more original shit but that could also just be Nero leaning into ‘I can do what you did but better’
were there paladin patch notes in the most recent thing
PLD stuff won't be till the full patch notes
got it
Nero and Gaius need some kinda more interaction
A romantic dinner perhaps
no
Was surprised they didn't have at least a couple of sentences exchange during the weapons storyline like these characters had a connection before now it's just nothing
But real talk, if the Tataru quest after Four Lords takes us to Werlyt, I would like Nero to be involved somehow. It is very weird that they don’t interact at all after ARR.
"Supposedly". The two of them are neck in neck with Cid coming out ever so slightly ahead.
There's no indication that Cid was coasting on his father's coattails.
Nero says that because his ego refuses to bow to the possibility that someone else could be smarter than him.
Nero made it to the moon before Cid he will forever have that
I didn’t say that lol
Yeah, Nero felt Cid had an advantage as “a son of Garlond” while seemingly House Scaeva might have… just been average artisans?
i still want a Nero tech-hammer tank job
I just want more hammers for war
that's just a axe
Back in my day they called it a tomahawk for some reason. I reject the renaming that 358/2 days gave it
How long is the maintenance
8 hours
Sheesh
Wasnt this the anima weapon repeatable?
Yeah, but you could buy them from Hismena
All the arr/hw poetic vendors sell em
yeah, archmagus was painfully inefficient iirc
You could only get one per week, and you had to do each CT raid
It was better when Aether Oils were 1800 poetics instead of the current 350
Now, EX boss rush? That’s a weekly I can get behind /s
"Reaper and sage weapons are now available from coffers that appear after completing Omega: Alphascape (Savage)."
woohooo
WHOAAAAH HOOOOOAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
me ivading abandoned fob's for easy gmp
I'm currently playing it. It's kinda alot to take in all at once. Especially with the strange timers to R&D I don't quite understand why they go/don't go. But I'm having fun with it.
fob's or mgsv in general?
MGSV
I spent a bit rerunning old missions to grab people or get stuff like my fulton cargo upgrades
So now I'm just kinda grabbing shipping containers and draining my money with no real goal. Since my next missions reccomend a missile weapon
iirc at least one of those you can get a missile weapon while in the mission
Yeah. So like right now I've just been 'exploring' the map
By checking out each base, destroying AA radars and comms and grabbing shipping manifests and stuff
Just so I have a leg up when I do have to go to those places
is there a better resolution picture of the new armors (namely the pvp armor)?
what's on the lodestone post is what we have for now
unless they post them on twitter
Anyone have the interview where Yoshi talks about the moons of each reflection?
It was part of the LL that aired during the 14 hour stream
Oh wait no it was earlier than that. 
Thank you!
"Enough measuring, time for the durability test"
easy their Nero
so needed to ask this -- with 6.3 dropping in a few days-- will we have to grind out tokens for the new master books or will the 6.3 equipment be unlocked and accessible from the prior master book bundle
thats what im wanting to know
No more master books. New recipes will be added to the existing ones
ok wonder why no more master books
That's just how it's been. Now that book 10 is out, anything further will get added to that.
Next expansion will have books 11 and 12 though
Oh and a similar thing with folklore. New nodes and items will simply be added to the books we've got.
Honestly I'm glad. But also... where does the sundering start and end? Is each reflection a pocket dimension still? Or did Hydalen really sunder all of reality?

Like where does the 'bubble' of a reflection end. Like if... by pure chance a nero or cid reflection would take their magitek spaceship cobbled together with allagan parts and go brrrrrrr
Just Etheirys and the moon was made inside the bubble as well.
yeah
Do they usually announce if there are going to be any server status changes ahead of the patch?
Nope. Those are always a surprise.
I'm pretty sure they do them after
They don't normally lump em together
They don't wanna take away from the PLD rework

classic duty recorder moment
I love that we have duty recorder, very cool
Please ignore each platform's recording functions, capture cards and or PCs

honestly the least they could do is allow us to record alliance raids on release
can see some good content coming out of that
Thank you yoshida, now when I play on my phone I can record my game without using screen recorder

Like... seriously. Even on playstation
My console records the last 30 minutes of gameplay all the time. That's not even counting built in streaming broadcast features
Like if I need to record a run... I can record a run without this duty may be recorded warning in PF

I always thought it was supposed to be a tool for content creation, since you can get shots that are not possible in normal gameplay
if only it worked on more stuff
I'd say... no
It's not meant to be that, but it can be used like that
Given how restictive it is (probably because server load issues) and the fact it's limited to new-ish fights
It's more meant as a way to review prog in fights
Not as a tool for content creation
If it was meant for that, then it'd have all the features that it had in it before
That they took away
But again if you wanna review prog in fights. We have tools for that.
If you want to see a diffrent PoV guess what? You can have TWO people record
Or EIGHT
I’d love if it was more usable. I would make montages 

You know, like a sick nasty ultimate worlds first prog group

Like it IS a neat tool. If SQEX let it
But just like community finder it's forgotten and swept aside
Heh. Community finder. Had to think if that was in the game.
no
I was also gonna throw linkshells in there. But that's good only for Hunt Train groups
If hunts didn't exist, linkshells would be forgotten too
i believe linkshells existed before discord
All archaic features existing for the sake of it
Denmo is the only person I know who's even made stuff with it
Fellowships are the ones I see used the least. But that’s probably just a NA thing.
What the fuck is a fellowship
while we're at it, I am literally watching this right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6dQf8CwQZg
Did you know Duty Recorder exists? Have you tried it? It's honestly fantastic. But it has a huge, gaping flaw - SquareEnix only lets you use it on specific duties. Maybe they'll listen to reason if enough people start raising a ruckus about it on forums and reddit (hint hint).
This is my first time making a video essay! Let me know what you thi...
it is?
You can make polls on a message board
people can like post an event time or w/e
So like discord v0.2?
or a forum?
you basically "follow" a fellowship and people post notices on it
^
-> That's a weird fuckin feature
apparently JP does use them
i guess people like an in-game alternative
I much rather always take me shit outta game asap
Due to the game requiring... you know... me being on the game
I can't just not be on and get messages from my people.
I can't deal with the game'a VC cuz the things it uses sucks
I think u can access that via the companion app too
Which is similar to a blog
IT HAD GPOSE BEFORE?
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO USEFUL WHEN I DID THE HYDAELYN VIDEO
more like doody recorder
Oh yeah, I like how the recorder updated from the Mothercrystal, P4S, and Aglaia to the Mothercrystal, Aglaia, and P8S
WHY IS MOTHER CRYSTAL STILL THERE
Why not the Storm’s Crown
because mother
WHY IS AGLAIA STILL THERE
i mean it doesnt even matter since i wouldnt be able to fckn use it in pugs since EVERYONE needs to have it enabled
Should be the Final Day or smth
i can name on one hand the amount of times ive been able to use it in a pug
People use duty recorder?
as a goof
i would use it if i had 23 other people
blame japanese culture of "everyone must be ok being recorded" or being a couple years behind what everyone does which is use obs game capture
(and censor names of the guilty)
(or not in passive aggressive community blacklists)
I love how duty recorder looks like it was meant for "reviewing prog" yet they only add the last savage floor of each tier, 4 months after its release
also yes
i dont even think it shows the players names
or rather you can hide the names anyways
nah duty recorder is for making pretty videos
and action screenshots
just a pain in the ass to get it working in the first place
I... didn't know that was a thing. That's cool af.
no idea
remember to enable it so you potentially have the chance to use it in pugs :)
oh yeah i made some gifs from that recorded pf run of puppets bunker
the name censoring is kinda funny https://twitter.com/eenlx/status/1449249442968657923
anyway it looks like the gameplay footage that they put into patch trailers and stuff are recorded with the same system as duty recorder
Lmao I actually saw the Party finder for that run
the rdm run lmao?
running with hot branding iron
honestly duty recorder had a lot of potential
if only they could make it work client side
Well they only recently started implementing mods as qol
Someday maybe
bu-but it's hard please understand
With their spaghet code, maybe
they made progress so far regardless of Spaghetti code
It was a rushed game afterall
Blame the polygons
I could see it being 3 million
since the last big mount was 2 million
wonder if the blimp is a multi seater since it looks big enough to be one
I think it's been confirmed it's can seat multiple people but not how many
If it's 4 I can see it going for the same price as the 15 car
Which was 200,000
i only have 200k q_q
Well the 15 car was for a limited time so it makes sense why it was only 200k
But the blimp will be forever so 3 million seems fair
I just do the challenge log and look up the fashion report
It'll take a bit but you'll get there
And the moogle event is great for mgp farming rn
Buy the little tickets that get you 50k
I've managed to get 2 million from it so far
200k seems reasonable
Would be weird for the multi seater mount to be less than the single seater mounts
prob 2 million
5 mil mgp mount incoming 
is tehre a new ex trial in 6.3?
Yes!
We dont know what it is yet but there will be one
Alliance wont give weapons. Ex trial give weapons
No it’s still savage/augmented tomes
also the ultimate will give highest ilvl wep
Ultimate weapon will probably be ilv640
Lol no
It'll be 635 with an extra materia slot
ah my bad. Idk why but thought they were 5 extra ilv as well for some reason 
5 more than augmented tome, yes. So technically not wrong.
Savage and Ultimate: 635
Augmented Lunar and relic: 630
Ex 5: 625 (I think)
Yeah EX5 weapon will likely be 625
so to hit max ilvl i need to do savage in 6.3? just started playing again
SoS weapons are 495 (compared to E8S at 505), so that would match
Savage is always highest or tied for highest ilvl
Savage will always have highest ilv gear
oh ok
Final relic step will be better but that's at the very end of the expansion
will it be hard to progress savage during 6.3?
i've done 1 ex trial but never tried sav
It will be tough but echo will be added so that's at least a tiny help
It'll be a fair bit easier than at the start of 6.2 due to gear, but still fairly hard. Savages tend to have a lot more "if one person goofs, it's a wipe" mechanics than extremes.
i see, i feel like everyone trying it in 6.3 will be new players too which wont help
i may wait until 6.4
6.4 is when the next tier releases
Well then the next savages are out
yeah i mean try the new tier haha
Will be way easier to prog it then than trying to prog this tier in pf
exactly
I managed to prog through all of last tier late in 6.1, it’s not that bad
Ilvl boosts after patch help. But no harm in waiting. I hear the last fight is especially bad in PF now.
FINAL FANTASY XIV Patch6.3 「天の祝祭、地の鳴動」特設サイト
https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/endwalker/patch_6_3/
FINAL FANTASY XIV フリートライアル
https://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/freetrial/
Corgi
CBU3 really love corgis
An improvement, by all means
man, im really excited to learn new paladin, i hope it ends up being fun
same
if it ends up not being fun, guess im swapping to gunbreaker. or DRK, dont know yet
probably gunbreaker, cause DRk is a little too edgy

Guess who’s unlocking reaper and Sage tomorrow
Me
It's less edgy than you think
Hopefully me
Need a little less than 2.5 million exp left
Also if I have to listen to the Stormblood leitmotif one more time I’m going to lose it
It’s in the background music
In the quest jingle
I can’t escape it lmao
storm of blood, born from blooood...
Me whenever I watch FF7 stuff and people always play one winged angel
It's an ok song but there's plenty of other good ones from 7
Kingdom Hearts II is the weirdest video game ever made.
Goofy: "Ain't Sephiroth the dark part of Cloud's heart"
Deltarune has the same motif
Sephirot Theme from Final Fantasy XIV Heavensward.
The video shows my ltitle Machinist doing Sephirot (Normal) in Containment Bay S1T7. Enjoy
Official lyrics:
What is it like when you pull back the curtain,
And realise every wrong is a right?
Your world is rusted like a dirty razor,
The edge is calling tonight!
The edge is calling tonight!
Th...

I swear Yoshi p isn’t touching sephiroth with a 10 foot pole specifically because nobody would shut up about it
What's your current and what are you going for
Yeah probably
The closest we’re getting to Sephiroth is Sephirot
nah, zenos is closer
Nael is right there
As he should
I'm still mad that Sephirot's bird doesn't play this music.
It's bad enough we have cloud strife imitators every 3 feet
Not the real septhiroph
Sephiroth is noclipping into the backrooms this is so sad
Can we get 15 pear emotes?
O12S
Hopefully not a lazy model reuse but don't hold your breath since that's what they did last time.
if they wanted to reuse models they wouldn't have added in their Omega weapons, they would've just chosen an existing weapon for the ulti model
succor if you need big aoe heal and indom is down
honestly this chat gets so off topic sometimes I don't think anyone even noticed
You'll notice the Sephiroth memes above. It's great
next raid series pls
i was on hard copium that the new lanner was gonna fix this
and then it turned out to be completely off
they did the same thing back w/ ucob tho, they added dreadwyrm stuff for the new jobs, then used dreadwyrm. idk why it would be different this time
Is this patch big? I’m still newish to the game and just started post arr
It's a major patch yea
most of it isnt relevant until you finish base endwalker though
which is a loooooooong way from where you’re at
There's a lot of QoL updates though.
Mhm such as timers for buffs and debuffs on the party list
Which is great on its own
30 waymark save slots
Or did they do unique fist punch
darkness fist punch, if we went by old terms
indeed
I love the "punch the ground, but it is a magical wave or a normal shockwave?"
Insert Eric slam shut being physical but Barbariccia ora ora ora being magical
Nah
He was so hot in that warden form
And then he’s just some gross skinny young man smh
He definitely took after his dad in his youth but gotdamn Lahabrea how did you glow up so hard????
the power of having facial hair
i lost 12 years off me when i shaved lmao
true
I worked with a guy who hadn’t shaved since his kid was older and
Once he shaved she started crying
Apparently it’s a common reaction of children lmao
and eyebrows
oh my god
aAAA
If they make them in Japan why not sell them in Japan 
gotta convince china to let them sell it in japan too
i think its CN only

peeps, since Sephirot Unreal will not be a thing anymore, and you can get the material from the barding from it, how will it change in 6.3, will it remain the same or will the recipe change ?
Can just go back to Seph Extreme if you want that stuff
Nothing drops inside the unreal version
thats what i thought
yea
Yeah lol
then there are some incorrect information on the internet LOL
thanks for the clearup
Can unsync with a lvl 90 tank for ez farming
where did you read that
the wiki
Internet is often filled with misinformation but it's alright good that u asked here 
which one
tsk tsk

not u, the wiki
someone edit it and add (extreme) lol
So you were wrong
the island sanctuary stuff is coming in the patch
and now I have to spend all my time grinding that out
Consolegameswiki 
Somehow they continue to be worse than every other FF wiki
Honestly same
27 million people, but finding stuff for FFXIV sometimes it is like going on a scavage hunt for that specific piece of information
there is an official ffxiv wiki
Gamerescape is the one I use bc it's pretty decent with some stuff
There is, but it is not good 
this is true
Also this
Gamerescape has been my go to wiki for XIV for 4 years now
No you told me it wasn't, and now it is
See, you said it was the next patch
afaik gamerescape doesnt have as much detailed info on like relics as consolegames
they're both useful sources of information
but it sucks that you need to check both
Because what one has, the other might not etc
It's like that one time that there was a whole ass other site for glamour
My bad anyway
but then the guy couldn't run it anymore and Eorzea Collection picked up all his files
There is just a lot of sidequests this patch in general
Which is why someone needs to make just 1 XIV wiki with everything
If Gamerscape and Console were to merge then we'd have a proper wiki
Like Grimm said, there's 27 million people but we can't have a good wiki that has everything we need
gamerescape is more like the official wiki and console is more like wikia
I kind of miss the old glamour site but EC is cool too
and id prefer wikia
Ok, hear me out, I'll make a FFXIV wiki, but it has slightly wrong informations about everything and fan theories for time travel in Ew 

OK actually
Yeah maybe that's why we don't have a good wiki
People would fill it with their shitty fan theories 
The very fact there is a pdf with 5 theories about time travel for ew
When even the Devs didn't want to deal with that shit
And then people get upset when the devs didn't follow that person's fanfiction
make sure to make the page for venat entirely slanderous
otherwise we won't know it's a joke
theres no theories its literally just a closed loop
Inb4 Azem's true name is revealed to us and all the Persephone stans cry out in sadness
well, yes, but actually no
Duh, since it's prometheus


nah it's steve
Azem is just the WoL's child from the future
Some people were really reaching with the Persephone thing tho
But XIV fan theories are often times massive reaches
Didn't even know that was a theory
It was for a time when SHB came out
I haven't heard much about it in a good while tho
People were using Hades's model and visuals to try and use it as proof for why the name was Persephone
When obviously Azem's name is Douglas
Name's Helios
Everyone knows Azem's real name is https://youtu.be/veaKOM1HYAw
Classic 
Anyway the other major idea, aside closed loop, is that there is another timeline for the 8th where calamity happened which lead to the exact same conclusion without the wol traveling to the past
But ye, time travel sucks
No, I mean for the Ew stuff, not Alexander
yeah i no i mean
cause remember the ironworks in the 8th made their artificial primal
or in the source in the future where graha woke up i should clarify
Ye, but the problem is in that timeline the wol never travels back to the past to talk with Hydealyn and trigger meteion/hermes
yeah i just assume tycoon just erased that timeline when we saved the first
Nah
I doubt
Also doesn't change the fact in that in that timeline the encounter between the wol and Hydelyn happened regardless
thats fair
my headcanon is that alexander in his infinite wisdom just fixes all the time shit
cause he can
The problem is that Alexander is both asleep and he bet on our future specifically cause he couldn't predict it
But it is just time travel problems by the end
And anyhow, it works both way
but so then ok
in that other timeline thing where the black rose gets deployed
wheres the link between there and here
God I love the schizo energy of theory 3
Every instance of time travel creates another timeline
And you can never truly get back home ever again
There was a short story that continued A Sound of Thunder a while back
It was kind of a...prequel to it
It involved them testing the machine and sending people back and forth through time to the point where a double of someone showed up before they even turned it on
I invoke Crow's Law
And that double basically chose to kill themselves lest the universe implode or something
"This isn't the real world so you should really just relax"
Basically you can never quite know when or where you are, so don't bother thinking about it the second you step into a time machine
There's another theory that talks about timelines constantly splitting and merging together
With certain events experiencing retoractive causality
retro-active causality*

Imagine if all of a sudden, a building appeared where YOU swore there was one but everyone else said that had been there for decades
Retro-Active Causality caused by a timeline merge
There's no way to prove it, there's no point in proving it, and you really can't do anything about it...sooo...just be like the WoL and don't think about it
Work with the timeline you have from the perspective you have
Also if we ever get proper airplanes in game then we'll all become WoWs
Warriors of Wright
What's homestuck
a relic of an earlier 2000s....
soon when our boi Nero has turned all the garleans into engineers with space technology
didn't the role quest say that all the garleans are going to the moon?
or at least some of them
I think they did say not all of them
but whoever wanted to seemed to be able to
think it also might go for more than just garleans
I missed a lot of that because of health stuff, I'm still playing catch up
I wouldn't catch up with it
I was like 10 at the time but from what I can tell it's not worth looking at lol
Maybe they'll use the moon as a launching off point to further explore the solar system?
Also no one got my Wright Brothers joke
Also if we ever do get more ships in the style of the Ragnarok then I could see them building a fleet to explore the stars with various names like Voyager, Defiant, and Excelsior because it would be a kind of....Starfleet...
And wouldn't that be a cool partnership for FFXIV to actually have like an official Star Trek crossover thing?
I'd rather have a Warcraft alliance raid series
All the space ships is pretty neat though, to the point where I imagine the world blowing up so the world can get simple again
Okay but consider tier 2 paladin armor in 14
I'd love to see that just to see the tribalism andys malding
i've considered it, and no
There's a lot of cool armor sets that would look cool in 14
Legion has fantastic tier sets that would fit well into XIV
And Black Temple and Icecrown would make really good Alliance raid rides
I dunno what would be the vanilla rep. Probably Rag
Oh, and every raid would start out with everyone flying in on flying mounts
sigh I actually haven't got the spoons to argue why I don't think Warcraft's art style translates to 14 in a good way without sounding like I'm just bashing on Warcraft. I just don't think they're compatible, certainly LESS compatible than all of 14's existing collab content.
Ugh. Now I'm thinking of 14 sets in Warcraft
Endwalker DRK job set would fit perfectly into warcraft
they just need to stylize it
so it fits WoW's artstyle
same for the PLD job set
god no
the wow armors do not translate well to the more realistic style of ff14
I've never seen the armors from that game so I wouldn't know
like, this is the set lesti is referring to
thats a robe with some texture slapped on
I think it’s a really good idea to record your gameplay for your first playthrough of a duty
I’m finna do that
Record your gameplay besties
Sounds like a good way to get caught for 3rd party tools
Good thing I don't use them
No I won't record my gameplay, cop
Uhmm
I mean it would help to see a mechanic more clearly? And idk it’s just funny to re-experience the chaos through a video
I use OBS, highly recommend 👍
Recording isn't against their third party tools part
If recording was against TOS twelve help content creators
That could technically work, but that'd be a lot of work to pull off in FFXIV, since the playerbase is used to armor sets having actual textures. Which means all those Warhammer-looking papers and seals would have to be modeled
some of the new sets are really good but the devs crippling aversion to putting vfx on armor save for now... 3 examples
i dont think they could happen
The main thing for FFXIV armor compared to WoW is that FFXIV armor has actual modeling to worry about.
The key thing here is that this is a set from literally 20 years ago, where the only armor pieces that had distinct geometry were the helm, the shoulders, and the gloves. In this case, the chest covers the legs, the belt is an added texture on top of the chest, and the legs are just invisible until you get to the feet. And yeah, the BOOTS had unique geometry, but you wouldn't see them if you had the chest on. If you didn't have the chestpiece but had the legs, you'd have a funky texture on separate legs (unless you had a different chestpiece that overflowed onto the legs again). And as you can see, it's just flat textures on everything even if the art gives the IMPRESSION of multiple materials and layers.
In the 20 years since, Team 2 has made improvements to giving geometry to more of the set pieces and adding other things to make the set pop, but the textures just don't have the same fidelity to actual materials and layers that 14's armor does.
lesti explicitly cited the tier 2 set which is why i posted it.
i realize that fidelity has gotten better but the artstyle has remained the same cartoony look
I want cape physics
like, this is tier 20 paladin gear
Fluffy beards
its still the same style
You know who else has a fluffy beard
Cid 
I was gonna say Lahabrea but you’re also correct
Yeah, I was agreeing with you and adding some additional context. A lot of people have fond associations with Judgment but mechanically it's in a different ZIP code from where 14 is at.
All that pauldron
Needs large shoulders to carry his raid group
Football pads
oh alright lmao i wasnt exactly sure
should see warrior sets on orcs
Yeah, Samwise really made "giant shoulders" a key component of the company artstyle
what's this are we pointing fingers at world of shoulders
nononono hold up HOLD THE FUCK UP
This isn't supposed to be "bash on Blizzard hour" it's just demonstrating that there are key incompatibilities between Warcraft/Blizzard's art style and FF14. Which makes a Warcraft collab a really really tall order. I'd argue an impossibly tall order.
i dont think the armor would feel the same if it was translated
i could maybe see like. weapon glams, which could be cool
honestly I wouldn't mind one tank set with giant shoulders but I'm really happy they don't all have this
ashbringer or doomhammer
weapon glams could work, perhaps.
I want more coats
!iglam high mythril armor
huh
the only thing about ashbringer though is that its two handed, and ff paladins are sword and board...
What about the wolfram armour too
It’s so boxy
but not very spiky :/

Look I like battle robes okay?
Especially on casters
Also a Frostmourne glam for DRK would be cool and mald inducing
You'd need the Shadowstalker set for that I think.
Maybe one day they'll make it purchasable with trophy crystals
I can't wait to commend people based on who has the cutest portrait
Even if they play awful aslong as they have a cute photo then that's all I'll need
When they cure bot but also have an amazing chest shot
I think now is a good time to use my fantasia 😳
Lewd portraits won't get any from me tho bc those are unoriginal

Why that DNC look familiar...
I’m the Exit Portal.
I'm the bard but it's my bara side ass portrait
God I love being a highlander
I woulda thought you'd be the hat
Omg I almost said the hat tbh
But then I thought it would be weird cause they’re a lalafell
So I just went with the portal
Lewd is lame
Big facts
Unless it's tasteful lewd
Clothes are as lewd as they get
Good clothes > being openly lewd

A good suit > dumb revealing dancer gear
I farmed this back revealing outfit for days and by god all of Eorzea is gonna see my manly muscled highlander back
It's for the gays hun 💅
Makes a questionable lala portrait so I force people to see it 


Dew it
I might 
BLM players don't like BLM
BLM players are never happy unless they gapping someone
honestly all the casters are annoying in crystal confict
When I play SMN I make it my mission to annoy people
SMN players are hiding in the corner waiting to get a penta with bahamut
RDM face rolling their keyboards to stance dance
BLM players just spamming flare and paradox
Working on my prepatch caps, Any ideas what they might be adding for the fate gems?
i dont think they added anything?
oh shit mb
probably just new mats
Won't know until maint ends probably
Yeah... I was just trying to decide if it would be worth it to cap the bicolor gems.
always be capped anyways
it never hurts to be since you can just turn it into vouchers
so itll be the crafting and gathering materia that will sell for lots?
where can i buy those with sacks of nuts
BLM players always complaining their job is the most cohesive and one with the most consistent set of upgrades through the expacs since it's the directors fave job
you can't. that's why crafting materia is so expensive, it's harder/more expensive to get. But if you have cowries on island sanctuary you can get them there
Island is just a free materia printing machine, I kinda expect prices won't go quite as high this time around because of it
with the new patch, do we have to remake our plates? are they gonna reset?
our glamour plates?
are we expecting anything new for white gather scrips? or just purple
debating whether to cap
Probably just purple
ye
no
Hmm
are we talking about our portraits or glamour plates cuz either way niether re getting reset
but portraits matter now for comms
doesnt change taht they wont reset

they only reset last time since it went from beta to full release
what about omicron tribal spam everyday
Don't think they have the option to exchange for materia
crafting and gatherer materia always sells good
you can exchange for gatherer materia. not crafting materia though. It's not a great exchange rate, but you can
lopos will probably give crafter materia
Today they gonna unveil job patch notes?
The anticipation
just saw this from the last letter from the producer. ngl, kinda like these changes, cant wait to see the full change log
It'll hopefully remove some of the jank and make PLD not feel like it's hitting like a wet noodle all the time.
Like two attonement rotations
And the godawful opener
i played paladin since half way through ARR (swaped to it when i saw there was a sword and board i didnt notice at first) and i gotta say, i always wanted paladin to be heavier on the magic
And now we got/get an extra cooldown so we're not down a cooldown compared to other tanks
which is indeed pog
and hopfully cover gets yeeted out of existance
Despite having a shield
Then you have naked guy with an axe and a 20% hp bump and literally the blackest night beating you out in pure mitigation
When you have a SHIELD
It doesn't feel good
Esp when your 'mitigation' tool
Is variable
Based on the ilvl of your shield/difficulty of the encounter
20% block mit is only if you're not synced down and you have the best shield possible
Most of the time you'll get synced to 19% block mit
paladin being the "magic based tank" (i think anyway, correct me if im wrong), when will we get a no magic healer. let me slap someone with a medkit
And if you're day one? You're gonna be around 16% block mit
Get rid of regicast phase w.e its spelled
whats fof again
FoF has no reason to exist but pad pre-60/62 pld




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