#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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subtle pasture
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I hope I have an O12 coffer lying around, but won’t be hard to blitz through unsynced

stuck roost
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I think at 620+ you don't even see anything

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It's all dead in a blink

wide wadi
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At 620 you see the start of Hello World

quasi cargo
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The monk weapons from o12s look sick as fuck

subtle pasture
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In my experience, life finds a way,

quasi cargo
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Finally a good monk ultimate wep? haha

subtle pasture
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But yeah it won’t be too much of a hassle

wide wadi
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Provided no one dies you can DPS him down during Hello World before it causes a wipe

stuck roost
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Most of p8s weapons looks like old relics tbf

wide wadi
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Or in my rare case, everyone wipes except the GNB through superbolide somehow

subtle pasture
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Though I think when I last did it we were 5 manning

stuck roost
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Actually looks decent for most part.. Now if only I can find decent party for it

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Just get 8 dps

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Or 1 tank and 7 dps

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Ez kill

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Even at 580 you can skip hello

uneven condor
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Does patch still kill?

stuck roost
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Yeah

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Some mechs are still insta wipe

sleek kestrel
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watch me clear euphrosyne within first hour of servers going up lol

iron birch
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Most people will do MSQ first

pastel venture
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going for world first speedrun

iron birch
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It took me 1 hour to queue for aglaia on day one for example

pastel venture
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jk thatd require skipping cutscenes which is stinky

iron birch
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Cause everyone was doing msq

sleek kestrel
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anything can be a world race if you want Thonk

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actually now that you said it, alliance raid speedruns sounds fun

gusty osprey
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why are these being removed

split forum
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They’re largely redundant, ig

gusty osprey
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I see

late aurora
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Instead of going and doing those, you can just buy the items with poetics

iron birch
gusty osprey
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I see

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new pvp gear

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ugh

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now I have to actually do it

thorny flax
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CC is fun especially as a black mage

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unless they nerf it lmao

gusty osprey
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im not a pvp guy

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its too frustrating

thorny flax
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CC as a BLM feels like playing PVE

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people just let me cast for the entire time

gusty osprey
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I dont play blm

thorny flax
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and you see everything freeze and explode

gusty osprey
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I like these changes

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but why are they only adding these now

quasi cargo
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if ur not in a rush to get it you can do frontline roulette and just brain off

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u'll get it eventually

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it gives good xp aswell for a job daily

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queue as job u want xp > swap when u get in

reef edge
# gusty osprey why are these being removed

It was already explained why they're being removed, but I believe YoshiP mentioned in the live letter that there's a bit of extra dialogue if you have them done. So if you haven't done them yet, probably wouldn't hurt to do so

teal salmon
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All it takes is doing each CT raid

subtle pasture
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Yeah, it was just a weekly grind for an old upgrade material and an old relic material, iirc

next gulch
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Baaaaa?

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Almost makes me wish the sheep is the delivery NPC lmao 🐑

crystal arrow
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I guess we got our answer

next gulch
primal basalt
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fucking finally

glossy hemlock
lament seal
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bêêêêêtter

glossy hemlock
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bigger sheepier is better

next gulch
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Ahahahahaha finally lmao

gaunt bison
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Is the new mount that costs mgp going to be a multiple person mount? It definitely looks huge enough to support 2+ people Peepoduck

iron birch
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Ye

glossy hemlock
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I think they had talked about it and it should be

iron birch
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You can see it briefly in the menu

glossy hemlock
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Cause they said players wanted more free multi seater mounts

iron birch
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If it is 2 or 4 we dunno

gaunt bison
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Please be 4

pastel venture
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do y'all actually managed to fill 4 seats

torpid yoke
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from the menu in the ll

rain onyx
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If it’s a 4-seater I won’t be surprised if it’s like 5m MGP

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Lowest I’m expecting is 2m to tie with the gold saucer cactuar mount

gaunt star
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Who has friends to fit four seats?

next gulch
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Rare, but not impossible

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Now, filling a Lunar Whale up gotta be an achievement...

gaunt star
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Just gotta open a party finder

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"Whaling time savage, fill up my whale"

next gulch
primal basalt
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"come to idyllshire on malboro if you want your ass kicked"

lament seal
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next time on a hunt, you ask other to hop on the whalemobile

gaunt star
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xdding waymarks should just be infinite since all the waymark info is stored on the client

carmine hollow
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P5s-p8s reclears will still be weekly reward right?

iron birch
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Ye

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Until 6.4

quasi cargo
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sadly yes

carmine hollow
quasi cargo
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i dont understand why but thats how they do it

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it unlocks like 2 weeks before next savage or something?

subtle pasture
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It uncaps in like .37 or so

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But yeah, that message is just the armor tokens from normal

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I know this has been discussed but I love that this can cause system stress edgeypaissa

stuck roost
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Mod still exist

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But good to have it in base game atleast

subtle pasture
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I wonder where the system stress comes from, needing to run all the UI elements required?

stuck roost
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Only for those still running core 2 duo

subtle pasture
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And taking the character packets to display everyone’s stuff insviudailly??

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Like it’s the same info you get for targeting them, just on a diff element

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Ah well, classic 14 spaghet

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Oh and you can tell it’s the same system bc it reflects the green timers for stuff you applied.

quasi cargo
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time to kitchen sink my mitigation to crash peoples game /s

crystal arrow
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I dont think aspho uncapped until 6.2

quasi cargo
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Yeah i think it uncapped 2 weeks before patch or something

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if i dont remember wrong

crystal arrow
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It was a random hotfix iirc not a numbered patch

subtle pasture
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Just chcecked, it was 6.18

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Which was, 7/4, and 6.2 was…

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8/23

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So almost a couple months between unlocking and the next tier, tbf

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Er, and Abyssos Sav was the week of the 30th

quasi cargo
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Dont say that 🥹 it felt like 2 weeks!!!! god time is moving too fast...

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(i remembered wrong)

subtle pasture
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Which is just significant patch stuffs, er, too significant to be minor hotfix notes.

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…6.28 was Halloween? Christ, time really is an illusion.

shut oyster
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What energy does this sit give you
personally I'm getting strong waiting for my turn on the xbox vibes

subtle pasture
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Oh wait yeah, that tracks for roughly two months

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It gives the Lalafell going “he said no pickles.”

shut oyster
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so true

quasi cargo
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Hrothgar just looks like he pressed "Try On" on brand new headgear that should be designed with them in mind

torpid yoke
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one day hroth will be able to use early to rise

forest magnet
quiet relic
torn igloo
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iterate over 8 entities, up to 30 effects each, calculate remaining time, render to screen, with exact timings

frigid isle
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am i the only one who thinks 30 waymarks still isnt enough 😅

torn igloo
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probably yes

frigid isle
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its bc im in NA and we dont use macros

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we use waymark assignments lmao

torn igloo
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30 gets you every endwalker savage + ex trial + all ultimates plus some for old content to spare

torpid yoke
rustic jackal
crystal arrow
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there aint that many waymark setups pepeHmm

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not ones that matter at least.

torpid yoke
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NA is too dumb

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and stubborn

torn igloo
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need 3 waymark presets per raid

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clox / healer stax / fight markers

humble heron
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Patch looks good

torn igloo
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very good

pallid fox
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I'm more excited for 30 waymark saves than I am for any of the other QoL changes. Although buff/debuff timers on the party frames is a close second.

rain crest
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portraits for party finder is honestly really good

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but being able to adjust the UI with EVERY ui available element at once is a godsend!

gaunt star
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This pleases me

iron birch
gaunt star
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Just buy a better pc /s

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its probably just a generic warning

winged lagoon
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How many catboys/bunboys in Dirndl's Bodice + 2B leggings will there be in Seraph Limsa next week

cloud gulch
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Were the paladin changes posted? Might have understood that there are some this patch

winged lagoon
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No

stone flume
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Nope

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Probably will get them day of

winged lagoon
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They generally don't put job balance changes in preliminary patch notes

cloud gulch
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Oh, understood, thanks

shut oyster
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by the way, the new hair for hrothgar is old ported hair right? I don't know wich hair specifically are those and if I have to unlock them

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oh one is just rainmaker yeah

iron birch
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Ye

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When they say new hair are avible they're just porting old ones

shut oyster
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Yeah I figure out wich one is the first one already

flint iron
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Joke on you

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It will definitely be roe

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And hrothgar

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In dirnl outfit

steep coral
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When is 6.3 hitting?

gaunt star
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jan 10th

primal basalt
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tuesday

raven mesa
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For real

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This 6.3 is big

winged lagoon
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Gathering and crafting food

gaunt star
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New crafting and gathering gear to make too

onyx prism
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Anybody got an alternate link to patch notes for those of us at work

brisk quail
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Honestly there's nothing to read.

stuck roost
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Usual patch crap

brisk quail
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Everyone's posted everything remotely relevant here alreadyuwucarby

teal salmon
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Best stuff is this

brisk quail
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A few settings.

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A few qols

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No paladin change notes

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🥹

frigid isle
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I just hope we can rename those waymark slots

gaunt star
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And you'll be able to read the full notes on Monday night anyways

silk cape
tawny relic
onyx prism
stuck roost
brisk quail
stuck roost
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The link is there

brisk quail
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We GOING TO SEE NYM

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Fuck yeah bitches. Let's look at them architectures

gaunt star
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ERP in the forbidden nym pond

brisk quail
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🥵

gaunt star
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But when can we swim in the water by Alexander

brisk quail
tawny relic
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We've been seeing Nym for years, all of the right side of Upper La Noscea was part of Nym

stuck roost
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Submerged nym

brisk quail
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More nym

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Floating nym, now sunken nym

stuck roost
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I wanted nymph tho

tawny relic
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We have earth Nym, air Nym, and now water Nym

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When's fire Nym

gaunt star
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Now we need the Secret of Nym

brisk quail
gaunt star
tawny relic
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Would you still love me if I was a tonberry

brisk quail
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Yesuwucarby

primal basalt
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there was a whole questline about that

gaunt star
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Alka Zolka the real GOAT

brisk quail
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I'd tap if you were an amphibian

gaunt star
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I still love everyone's reaction to that cutscene from what I've scene

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When they see all the other Job NPC's: "Oh neat"

When the see Alka Zolka: "THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT, THE GOAT"

brisk quail
gaunt star
brisk quail
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It's THE SQUAD

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They dripped up in their matching robes

gaunt star
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Maybe one day job people will get a voice

tawny relic
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Las creaturas

gaunt star
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I'm forever salty Y'mitra didn't say a fucking word in the cutscene where we pull Y'shtola out of the stream

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It was a voiced scene too

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And she just says nothing pensivewobble

granite nimbus
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It still feels bizarre that only A-Ruhn Senna has gotten a voice out of all the job mentors.

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Estinien doesn't really count.

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He doesn't teach us anything.

teal salmon
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Eh, A-Ruhn is important

gaunt star
granite nimbus
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He is. He's just not popular is all.

tawny relic
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It makes sense that the Seedseers are voiced, since they're Gridania's government

silk cape
gaunt star
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Well atleast it's not the Cid and Nero treatment

tawny relic
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One voiced cutscene per expansion?

silk cape
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Cid: "yall fuckers built a spaceship and you didn't call me?"
Nero: "yall fuckers built a spaceship? I could build a better one."

tawny relic
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If you're lucky?

gaunt star
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I think Cid probably has the least voiced lines in the whole game out of any important NPC

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Which is weird bc of how much he's around

tawny relic
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Yeqh, but it's always side content

gaunt star
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The curse of being an interesting character

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Forever doomed to side content

gaunt star
iron scaffold
glossy hemlock
gaunt star
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Cids talented but he ain't red

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He ain't Char

glossy hemlock
rustic jackal
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feels like cid also makes more original shit but that could also just be Nero leaning into ‘I can do what you did but better’

plush summit
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were there paladin patch notes in the most recent thing

gaunt star
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PLD stuff won't be till the full patch notes

plush summit
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got it

dim sigil
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Nero and Gaius need some kinda more interaction

chilly bluff
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A romantic dinner perhaps

iron scaffold
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no

dim sigil
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Was surprised they didn't have at least a couple of sentences exchange during the weapons storyline like these characters had a connection before now it's just nothing

iron scaffold
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i'm shipping Nero with Jesse

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Gaius needs to stay away from "simps"

chilly bluff
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But real talk, if the Tataru quest after Four Lords takes us to Werlyt, I would like Nero to be involved somehow. It is very weird that they don’t interact at all after ARR.

granite nimbus
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There's no indication that Cid was coasting on his father's coattails.

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Nero says that because his ego refuses to bow to the possibility that someone else could be smarter than him.

gaunt star
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Nero made it to the moon before Cid he will forever have that

glossy hemlock
subtle pasture
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Yeah, Nero felt Cid had an advantage as “a son of Garlond” while seemingly House Scaeva might have… just been average artisans?

plush summit
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i still want a Nero tech-hammer tank job

dim sigil
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I just want more hammers for war

oak pike
silk cape
somber storm
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Give us hammer sword

iron scaffold
somber storm
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sword hammer

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well, axe sword

reef edge
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Back in my day they called it a tomahawk for some reason. I reject the renaming that 358/2 days gave it

raven mesa
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How long is the maintenance

chilly bluff
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8 hours

raven mesa
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Sheesh

pallid girder
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Wasnt this the anima weapon repeatable?

tawny relic
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Yeah, but you could buy them from Hismena

late aurora
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All the arr/hw poetic vendors sell em

pallid girder
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yeah, archmagus was painfully inefficient iirc

tawny relic
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You could only get one per week, and you had to do each CT raid

rain onyx
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It was better when Aether Oils were 1800 poetics instead of the current 350

late aurora
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Now, EX boss rush? That’s a weekly I can get behind /s

pallid girder
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"Reaper and sage weapons are now available from coffers that appear after completing Omega: Alphascape (Savage)."
woohooo

raven mesa
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Wt to do

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Wait

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What time

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I can go to sleep and boom 6.3 will be here

chilly bluff
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Btw maintenance is still 72 hours away

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We got time

torpid yoke
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me ivading abandoned fob's for easy gmp

brisk quail
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I'm currently playing it. It's kinda alot to take in all at once. Especially with the strange timers to R&D I don't quite understand why they go/don't go. But I'm having fun with it.

torpid yoke
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fob's or mgsv in general?

brisk quail
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MGSV

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I spent a bit rerunning old missions to grab people or get stuff like my fulton cargo upgrades

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So now I'm just kinda grabbing shipping containers and draining my money with no real goal. Since my next missions reccomend a missile weapon

torpid yoke
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iirc at least one of those you can get a missile weapon while in the mission

brisk quail
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Yeah. So like right now I've just been 'exploring' the map

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By checking out each base, destroying AA radars and comms and grabbing shipping manifests and stuff

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Just so I have a leg up when I do have to go to those places

plush summit
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is there a better resolution picture of the new armors (namely the pvp armor)?

crystal arrow
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what's on the lodestone post is what we have for now

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unless they post them on twitter

quasi zodiac
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Anyone have the interview where Yoshi talks about the moons of each reflection?

chilly bluff
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It was part of the LL that aired during the 14 hour stream

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Oh wait no it was earlier than that. namazuthink

chilly bluff
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This was Feb of last year. Which iirc was just "the next 10 years"

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But yeah

livid oracle
tawny relic
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"Enough measuring, time for the durability test"

iron scaffold
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easy their Nero

cold drift
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so needed to ask this -- with 6.3 dropping in a few days-- will we have to grind out tokens for the new master books or will the 6.3 equipment be unlocked and accessible from the prior master book bundle

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thats what im wanting to know

chilly bluff
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No more master books. New recipes will be added to the existing ones

cold drift
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ok wonder why no more master books

chilly bluff
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That's just how it's been. Now that book 10 is out, anything further will get added to that.

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Next expansion will have books 11 and 12 though

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Oh and a similar thing with folklore. New nodes and items will simply be added to the books we've got.

brisk quail
# chilly bluff

Honestly I'm glad. But also... where does the sundering start and end? Is each reflection a pocket dimension still? Or did Hydalen really sunder all of reality?

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Like where does the 'bubble' of a reflection end. Like if... by pure chance a nero or cid reflection would take their magitek spaceship cobbled together with allagan parts and go brrrrrrr

chilly bluff
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Just Etheirys and the moon was made inside the bubble as well.

sleek kestrel
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yeah

gaunt star
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Do they usually announce if there are going to be any server status changes ahead of the patch?

chilly bluff
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Nope. Those are always a surprise.

brisk quail
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I'm pretty sure they do them after

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They don't normally lump em together

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They don't wanna take away from the PLD rework

sleek kestrel
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classic duty recorder moment

brisk quail
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I love that we have duty recorder, very cool

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Please ignore each platform's recording functions, capture cards and or PCs

sleek kestrel
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honestly the least they could do is allow us to record alliance raids on release

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can see some good content coming out of that

brisk quail
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Thank you yoshida, now when I play on my phone I can record my game without using screen recorder

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Like... seriously. Even on playstation

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My console records the last 30 minutes of gameplay all the time. That's not even counting built in streaming broadcast features

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Like if I need to record a run... I can record a run without this duty may be recorded warning in PF

sleek kestrel
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I always thought it was supposed to be a tool for content creation, since you can get shots that are not possible in normal gameplay

rain onyx
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if only it worked on more stuff

brisk quail
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I'd say... no

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It's not meant to be that, but it can be used like that

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Given how restictive it is (probably because server load issues) and the fact it's limited to new-ish fights

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It's more meant as a way to review prog in fights

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Not as a tool for content creation

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If it was meant for that, then it'd have all the features that it had in it before

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That they took away

sleek kestrel
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yeah sorry, i meant i used to think so

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then I actually looked at the duty list

brisk quail
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But again if you wanna review prog in fights. We have tools for that.uwucarby

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If you want to see a diffrent PoV guess what? You can have TWO people record

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Or EIGHT

quasi cargo
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I’d love if it was more usable. I would make montages LUL

brisk quail
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You know, like a sick nasty ultimate worlds first prog group

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Like it IS a neat tool. If SQEX let it

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But just like community finder it's forgotten and swept aside

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Heh. Community finder. Had to think if that was in the game.

sleek kestrel
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no

brisk quail
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I was also gonna throw linkshells in there. But that's good only for Hunt Train groupsowocarby

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If hunts didn't exist, linkshells would be forgotten too

sleek kestrel
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i believe linkshells existed before discord

stuck roost
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All archaic features existing for the sake of it

wind bough
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Denmo is the only person I know who's even made stuff with it

brisk quail
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Come on, I'm sure we can come up with more decrepit features of this game

chilly bluff
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Fellowships are the ones I see used the least. But that’s probably just a NA thing.

brisk quail
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What the fuck is a fellowship

sleek kestrel
# wind bough Denmo is the only person I know who's even made stuff with it

while we're at it, I am literally watching this right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6dQf8CwQZg

Did you know Duty Recorder exists? Have you tried it? It's honestly fantastic. But it has a huge, gaping flaw - SquareEnix only lets you use it on specific duties. Maybe they'll listen to reason if enough people start raising a ruckus about it on forums and reddit (hint hint).

This is my first time making a video essay! Let me know what you thi...

▶ Play video
brisk quail
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Is this a real feature?

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Holy shit it is

sleek kestrel
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it is?

brisk quail
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I dunno what it does

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But it exists

wind bough
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JP allegedly uses them a lot more.

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It's just a message board you sign up for

brisk quail
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You can make polls on a message board

wind bough
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people can like post an event time or w/e

brisk quail
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So like discord v0.2?

sleek kestrel
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or a forum?

wind bough
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it's not chat

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no like a noticeboard

brisk quail
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But...

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What

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Why

wind bough
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you basically "follow" a fellowship and people post notices on it

brisk quail
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-> That's a weird fuckin feature

wind bough
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apparently JP does use them

sleek kestrel
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i guess people like an in-game alternative

brisk quail
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I much rather always take me shit outta game asap

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Due to the game requiring... you know... me being on the game

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I can't just not be on and get messages from my people.

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I can't deal with the game'a VC cuz the things it uses sucks

crystal mortar
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I think u can access that via the companion app too

flint iron
torpid yoke
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THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO USEFUL WHEN I DID THE HYDAELYN VIDEO

late trail
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more like doody recorder

subtle pasture
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Oh yeah, I like how the recorder updated from the Mothercrystal, P4S, and Aglaia to the Mothercrystal, Aglaia, and P8S

torpid yoke
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WHY IS MOTHER CRYSTAL STILL THERE

subtle pasture
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Why not the Storm’s Crown

late trail
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because mother

torpid yoke
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WHY IS AGLAIA STILL THERE

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i mean it doesnt even matter since i wouldnt be able to fckn use it in pugs since EVERYONE needs to have it enabled

subtle pasture
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Should be the Final Day or smth

torpid yoke
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i can name on one hand the amount of times ive been able to use it in a pug

stuck roost
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People use duty recorder?

primal basalt
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as a goof

torpid yoke
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i would use it if i had 23 other people

pulsar yacht
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(and censor names of the guilty)

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(or not in passive aggressive community blacklists)

sleek kestrel
sleek kestrel
torpid yoke
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or rather you can hide the names anyways

dawn wave
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nah duty recorder is for making pretty videos

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and action screenshots

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just a pain in the ass to get it working in the first place

trim siren
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I... didn't know that was a thing. That's cool af.

dawn wave
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no idea

torpid yoke
dawn wave
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oh yeah i made some gifs from that recorded pf run of puppets bunker

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anyway it looks like the gameplay footage that they put into patch trailers and stuff are recorded with the same system as duty recorder

gleaming rampart
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Lmao I actually saw the Party finder for that run

dawn wave
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the rdm run lmao?

iron scaffold
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running with hot branding iron

stuck roost
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No wonder it sucks

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Dev tool sucks for non devs

sleek kestrel
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honestly duty recorder had a lot of potential

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if only they could make it work client side

stuck roost
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Well they only recently started implementing mods as qol

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Someday maybe

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bu-but it's hard please understand

torpid yoke
#

With their spaghet code, maybe

iron scaffold
#

they made progress so far regardless of Spaghetti code

low nexus
#

It was a rushed game afterall

torpid yoke
#

Blame the polygons

gaunt star
#

I could see it being 3 million

#

since the last big mount was 2 million

#

wonder if the blimp is a multi seater since it looks big enough to be one

gleaming rampart
#

I think it's been confirmed it's can seat multiple people but not how many

#

If it's 4 I can see it going for the same price as the 15 car

#

Which was 200,000

low nexus
#

i only have 200k q_q

gaunt star
#

Well the 15 car was for a limited time so it makes sense why it was only 200k

#

But the blimp will be forever so 3 million seems fair

low nexus
#

that takes so long to get if u are unlucky

#

q_q

gaunt star
#

I just do the challenge log and look up the fashion report

#

It'll take a bit but you'll get there

#

And the moogle event is great for mgp farming rn

#

Buy the little tickets that get you 50k

#

I've managed to get 2 million from it so far

humble heron
#

200k seems reasonable

gaunt star
#

Would be weird for the multi seater mount to be less than the single seater mounts

iron scaffold
#

for free?

#

after jumping a few hoops and killing a god on high difficulty?

iron birch
#

prob 2 million

real tinsel
#

5 mil mgp mount incoming Nuke

slender horizon
#

is tehre a new ex trial in 6.3?

real tinsel
#

We dont know what it is yet but there will be one

slender horizon
#

oh noice

#

but the highest ilvl gear will come from alliance raid correct?

real tinsel
#

Alliance wont give weapons. Ex trial give weapons

slender horizon
#

oh yeahh

#

ty

late aurora
ruby marsh
#

also the ultimate will give highest ilvl wep

real tinsel
#

Ultimate weapon will probably be ilv640

late aurora
#

Lol no

reef edge
#

It'll be 635 with an extra materia slot

real tinsel
#

ah my bad. Idk why but thought they were 5 extra ilv as well for some reason Derpva

chilly bluff
#

5 more than augmented tome, yes. So technically not wrong.

winged lagoon
#

Savage and Ultimate: 635
Augmented Lunar and relic: 630
Ex 5: 625 (I think)

chilly bluff
#

Yeah EX5 weapon will likely be 625

slender horizon
#

so to hit max ilvl i need to do savage in 6.3? just started playing again

winged lagoon
#

SoS weapons are 495 (compared to E8S at 505), so that would match

#

Savage is always highest or tied for highest ilvl

real tinsel
#

Savage will always have highest ilv gear

slender horizon
#

oh ok

real tinsel
#

Final relic step will be better but that's at the very end of the expansion

slender horizon
#

will it be hard to progress savage during 6.3?

#

i've done 1 ex trial but never tried sav

real tinsel
#

It will be tough but echo will be added so that's at least a tiny help

winged lagoon
#

It'll be a fair bit easier than at the start of 6.2 due to gear, but still fairly hard. Savages tend to have a lot more "if one person goofs, it's a wipe" mechanics than extremes.

slender horizon
#

i see, i feel like everyone trying it in 6.3 will be new players too which wont help

#

i may wait until 6.4

real tinsel
#

6.4 is when the next tier releases

late aurora
#

Well then the next savages are out

slender horizon
#

yeah i mean try the new tier haha

real tinsel
#

Will be way easier to prog it then than trying to prog this tier in pf

slender horizon
#

exactly

earnest vine
#

I managed to prog through all of last tier late in 6.1, it’s not that bad

#

Ilvl boosts after patch help. But no harm in waiting. I hear the last fight is especially bad in PF now.

somber storm
#

Corgi

pallid girder
#

CBU3 really love corgis

wary perch
earnest vine
#

An improvement, by all means

wary ginkgo
#

man, im really excited to learn new paladin, i hope it ends up being fun

pallid girder
#

same

wary ginkgo
#

if it ends up not being fun, guess im swapping to gunbreaker. or DRK, dont know yet

#

probably gunbreaker, cause DRk is a little too edgy

quasi cargo
tacit goblet
#

Guess who’s unlocking reaper and Sage tomorrow

glossy hemlock
#

Me

tawny relic
tacit goblet
#

Hopefully me
Need a little less than 2.5 million exp left

tacit goblet
#

Also if I have to listen to the Stormblood leitmotif one more time I’m going to lose it

#

It’s in the background music
In the quest jingle

#

I can’t escape it lmao

gleaming rampart
gaunt star
#

It's an ok song but there's plenty of other good ones from 7

late aurora
somber storm
#

Goofy: "Ain't Sephiroth the dark part of Cloud's heart"

torpid yoke
#

nice

astral marten
#

Still waiting on the septhiroph raid

#

Whenever they decide to make that

tawny relic
#

Containment Bay S1T6

chilly bluff
willow star
#

I really hope this Reaper weapon from o8s is badass

#

I really need a new glam

late aurora
#

I swear Yoshi p isn’t touching sephiroth with a 10 foot pole specifically because nobody would shut up about it

tawny relic
#

What's your current and what are you going for

tacit goblet
#

The closest we’re getting to Sephiroth is Sephirot

primal basalt
#

nah, zenos is closer

torpid yoke
ivory wolf
brisk quail
#

It's bad enough we have cloud strife imitators every 3 feet

somber storm
astral marten
brisk quail
#

Can we get 15 pear emotes?

tacit goblet
#

grody

#

Sephithot

forest magnet
#

Hopefully not a lazy model reuse but don't hold your breath since that's what they did last time.

earnest vine
#

if they wanted to reuse models they wouldn't have added in their Omega weapons, they would've just chosen an existing weapon for the ulti model

topaz dome
#

Tifa in the game when

#

Do I combine emergency tactics with succor or adlo typically?

rain onyx
#

succor if you need big aoe heal and indom is down

topaz dome
#

oops wrong chat my b missed it lol

#

ty tho!

earnest vine
#

honestly this chat gets so off topic sometimes I don't think anyone even noticed

#

You'll notice the Sephiroth memes above. It's great

frigid isle
torn igloo
#

and then it turned out to be completely off

prisma vine
feral fable
#

Is this patch big? I’m still newish to the game and just started post arr

obtuse trout
#

It's a major patch yea

sleek kestrel
#

most of it isnt relevant until you finish base endwalker though

#

which is a loooooooong way from where you’re at

granite nimbus
#

There's a lot of QoL updates though.

obtuse trout
#

Mhm such as timers for buffs and debuffs on the party list

#

Which is great on its own

rain onyx
#

30 waymark save slots

obtuse trout
#

Glory

#

Dmg type also
owocarby

#

Nice to know if I got slapped or slapped but magically

rain onyx
#

Did they punch you

#

or did they cast fist

obtuse trout
#

Or did they do unique fist punch

rain onyx
#

darkness fist punch, if we went by old terms

iron birch
#

Insert Eric slam shut being physical but Barbariccia ora ora ora being magical

torpid yoke
#

eric is hitting you with the chains

iron birch
#

Nah

glossy hemlock
#

He was so hot in that warden form

#

And then he’s just some gross skinny young man smh

#

He definitely took after his dad in his youth but gotdamn Lahabrea how did you glow up so hard????

pulsar current
#

i lost 12 years off me when i shaved lmao

glossy hemlock
#

lul true

#

I worked with a guy who hadn’t shaved since his kid was older and

#

Once he shaved she started crying

#

Apparently it’s a common reaction of children lmao

pulsar current
#

same

#

my dad looks so different without the beard or glasses

torpid yoke
glossy hemlock
brazen trout
#

oh my god

#

aAAA

glossy hemlock
#

If they make them in Japan why not sell them in Japan DrunkPensive

torpid yoke
#

gotta convince china to let them sell it in japan too

brazen trout
#

i think its CN only

torpid yoke
brazen trout
#

not sure mooglethink it says chinese official store

#

but the aircraft is from jp

sullen verge
#

peeps, since Sephirot Unreal will not be a thing anymore, and you can get the material from the barding from it, how will it change in 6.3, will it remain the same or will the recipe change ?

chilly bluff
#

Can just go back to Seph Extreme if you want that stuff

reef edge
#

Nothing drops inside the unreal version

torpid yoke
#

thats what i thought

sullen verge
#

where does the sephirot sap drop then for the barding?

#

extreme?

torpid yoke
#

yea

chilly bluff
#

Yeah lol

sullen verge
#

then there are some incorrect information on the internet LOL

#

thanks for the clearup

reef edge
#

Can unsync with a lvl 90 tank for ez farming

torpid yoke
#

where did you read that

sullen verge
#

the wiki

obtuse trout
#

Internet is often filled with misinformation but it's alright good that u asked here rynepat

torpid yoke
#

which one

torpid yoke
#

tsk tsk

sullen verge
torpid yoke
#

not u, the wiki

torn igloo
#

someone edit it and add (extreme) lol

pliant token
#

So you were wrong

#

the island sanctuary stuff is coming in the patch

#

and now I have to spend all my time grinding that out

gaunt star
#

Consolegameswiki namazuconcern

iron birch
#

Nah, we said that island sanctuary was coming this patch

#

Just not the new area

gaunt star
#

Somehow they continue to be worse than every other FF wiki

iron birch
#

It is a minor update

#

Honestly surprised nobody made a proper FFXIV wiki ever

gaunt star
#

Honestly same

iron birch
#

27 million people, but finding stuff for FFXIV sometimes it is like going on a scavage hunt for that specific piece of information

humble heron
#

there is an official ffxiv wiki

gaunt star
#

Gamerescape is the one I use bc it's pretty decent with some stuff

iron birch
humble heron
#

this is true

gaunt star
#

Gamerescape has been my go to wiki for XIV for 4 years now

pliant token
gaunt star
#

Which is sad

#

You'd think the official wiki would be good

pliant token
iron birch
#

Me spending 2 hours trying to find that specific dialogue on garland tools

pliant token
#

See, you said it was the next patch

ruby marsh
#

afaik gamerescape doesnt have as much detailed info on like relics as consolegames

pliant token
#

they're both useful sources of information

#

but it sucks that you need to check both

#

Because what one has, the other might not etc

iron birch
#

Oh, fair

#

TBF It is also why I said to check patch website cause I didn't remember /s

pliant token
#

It's like that one time that there was a whole ass other site for glamour

iron birch
#

My bad anyway

pliant token
#

but then the guy couldn't run it anymore and Eorzea Collection picked up all his files

iron birch
#

There is just a lot of sidequests this patch in general

gaunt star
pliant token
#

If Gamerscape and Console were to merge then we'd have a proper wiki

gaunt star
#

Like Grimm said, there's 27 million people but we can't have a good wiki that has everything we need

ruby marsh
#

gamerescape is more like the official wiki and console is more like wikia

pliant token
#

I kind of miss the old glamour site but EC is cool too

ruby marsh
#

and id prefer wikia

iron birch
gaunt star
#

OK actually

#

Yeah maybe that's why we don't have a good wiki

#

People would fill it with their shitty fan theories haha

iron birch
#

The very fact there is a pdf with 5 theories about time travel for ew

#

When even the Devs didn't want to deal with that shit

gaunt star
#

And then people get upset when the devs didn't follow that person's fanfiction

primal basalt
#

otherwise we won't know it's a joke

humble heron
gaunt star
#

Inb4 Azem's true name is revealed to us and all the Persephone stans cry out in sadness

iron birch
#

well, yes, but actually no

gaunt star
primal basalt
#

nah it's steve

pliant token
#

Azem is just the WoL's child from the future

gaunt star
#

Some people were really reaching with the Persephone thing tho

#

But XIV fan theories are often times massive reaches

torpid yoke
#

Didn't even know that was a theory

gaunt star
#

It was for a time when SHB came out

#

I haven't heard much about it in a good while tho

#

People were using Hades's model and visuals to try and use it as proof for why the name was Persephone

#

When obviously Azem's name is Douglas

tawny relic
#

Name's Helios

winged lagoon
gaunt star
#

Classic prayge

iron birch
#

But ye, time travel sucks

humble heron
#

nah i assume alexander would have patched that all up

#

or rather tycoon

iron birch
#

No, I mean for the Ew stuff, not Alexander

humble heron
#

yeah i no i mean

#

cause remember the ironworks in the 8th made their artificial primal

#

or in the source in the future where graha woke up i should clarify

iron birch
#

Ye, but the problem is in that timeline the wol never travels back to the past to talk with Hydealyn and trigger meteion/hermes

humble heron
#

yeah i just assume tycoon just erased that timeline when we saved the first

iron birch
#

Nah

#

I doubt

#

Also doesn't change the fact in that in that timeline the encounter between the wol and Hydelyn happened regardless

humble heron
#

thats fair

#

my headcanon is that alexander in his infinite wisdom just fixes all the time shit

#

cause he can

iron birch
#

The problem is that Alexander is both asleep and he bet on our future specifically cause he couldn't predict it

#

But it is just time travel problems by the end

#

And anyhow, it works both way

humble heron
#

but so then ok

#

in that other timeline thing where the black rose gets deployed

#

wheres the link between there and here

iron birch
#

There were also other 3, but I can't find the Reddit post anymore owocarby

pliant token
#

six words

#

Time travel just happens because plot

strange wing
#

God I love the schizo energy of theory 3

#

Every instance of time travel creates another timeline

pliant token
#

And you can never truly get back home ever again

#

There was a short story that continued A Sound of Thunder a while back

#

It was kind of a...prequel to it

#

It involved them testing the machine and sending people back and forth through time to the point where a double of someone showed up before they even turned it on

strange wing
#

I invoke Crow's Law

pliant token
#

And that double basically chose to kill themselves lest the universe implode or something

strange wing
#

"This isn't the real world so you should really just relax"

pliant token
#

Basically you can never quite know when or where you are, so don't bother thinking about it the second you step into a time machine

#

There's another theory that talks about timelines constantly splitting and merging together

#

With certain events experiencing retoractive causality

#

retro-active causality*

strange wing
pliant token
#

Imagine if all of a sudden, a building appeared where YOU swore there was one but everyone else said that had been there for decades

#

Retro-Active Causality caused by a timeline merge

#

There's no way to prove it, there's no point in proving it, and you really can't do anything about it...sooo...just be like the WoL and don't think about it

#

Work with the timeline you have from the perspective you have

#

Also if we ever get proper airplanes in game then we'll all become WoWs

#

Warriors of Wright

torn igloo
#

i just assume homestuck-style stable time loops

#

works well enough

pliant token
#

What's homestuck

rustic jackal
#

a relic of an earlier 2000s....

thorny flax
#

or at least some of them

rustic jackal
#

I think they did say not all of them

#

but whoever wanted to seemed to be able to

#

think it also might go for more than just garleans

pliant token
rustic jackal
#

I wouldn't catch up with it

#

I was like 10 at the time but from what I can tell it's not worth looking at lol

pliant token
#

Also no one got my Wright Brothers joke

#

Also if we ever do get more ships in the style of the Ragnarok then I could see them building a fleet to explore the stars with various names like Voyager, Defiant, and Excelsior because it would be a kind of....Starfleet...

#

And wouldn't that be a cool partnership for FFXIV to actually have like an official Star Trek crossover thing?

strange wing
strange wing
#

All the space ships is pretty neat though, to the point where I imagine the world blowing up so the world can get simple again

strange wing
thorny flax
silk cape
strange wing
#

There's a lot of cool armor sets that would look cool in 14

thorny flax
#

Legion has fantastic tier sets that would fit well into XIV

strange wing
#

And Black Temple and Icecrown would make really good Alliance raid rides

#

I dunno what would be the vanilla rep. Probably Rag

#

Oh, and every raid would start out with everyone flying in on flying mounts

silk cape
#

sigh I actually haven't got the spoons to argue why I don't think Warcraft's art style translates to 14 in a good way without sounding like I'm just bashing on Warcraft. I just don't think they're compatible, certainly LESS compatible than all of 14's existing collab content.

strange wing
#

Ugh. Now I'm thinking of 14 sets in Warcraft

thorny flax
#

Endwalker DRK job set would fit perfectly into warcraft

#

they just need to stylize it

#

so it fits WoW's artstyle

#

same for the PLD job set

strange wing
#

Red Mage is too based for Wow

#

It can't handle that much cool

crystal arrow
#

the wow armors do not translate well to the more realistic style of ff14

torpid yoke
#

....

#

Are they really that cartoonish?

crystal arrow
#

uh

#

yes

torpid yoke
#

I've never seen the armors from that game so I wouldn't know

crystal arrow
#

like, this is the set lesti is referring to

strange wing
#

It's cooler in my head

#

I think about all the fanart where it looks way better

pastel venture
#

thats a robe with some texture slapped on

torpid yoke
#

Mmm

#

Them shoulders

frigid isle
#

I think it’s a really good idea to record your gameplay for your first playthrough of a duty

#

I’m finna do that

#

Record your gameplay besties

torpid yoke
#

I would if duty recorder was useful

strange wing
#

Sounds like a good way to get caught for 3rd party tools

#

Good thing I don't use them

#

No I won't record my gameplay, cop

frigid isle
#

Uhmm

#

I mean it would help to see a mechanic more clearly? And idk it’s just funny to re-experience the chaos through a video

#

I use OBS, highly recommend 👍

torpid yoke
earnest vine
#

If recording was against TOS twelve help content creators

tawny relic
crystal arrow
#

some of the new sets are really good but the devs crippling aversion to putting vfx on armor save for now... 3 examples

i dont think they could happen

tawny relic
#

The main thing for FFXIV armor compared to WoW is that FFXIV armor has actual modeling to worry about.

silk cape
# crystal arrow like, this is the set lesti is referring to

The key thing here is that this is a set from literally 20 years ago, where the only armor pieces that had distinct geometry were the helm, the shoulders, and the gloves. In this case, the chest covers the legs, the belt is an added texture on top of the chest, and the legs are just invisible until you get to the feet. And yeah, the BOOTS had unique geometry, but you wouldn't see them if you had the chest on. If you didn't have the chestpiece but had the legs, you'd have a funky texture on separate legs (unless you had a different chestpiece that overflowed onto the legs again). And as you can see, it's just flat textures on everything even if the art gives the IMPRESSION of multiple materials and layers.

In the 20 years since, Team 2 has made improvements to giving geometry to more of the set pieces and adding other things to make the set pop, but the textures just don't have the same fidelity to actual materials and layers that 14's armor does.

crystal arrow
#

lesti explicitly cited the tier 2 set which is why i posted it.

#

i realize that fidelity has gotten better but the artstyle has remained the same cartoony look

somber storm
#

I want cape physics

gaunt star
#

I want actual beards

#

Not those dumb little stumpy things we can pick

#

BEEG beards

crystal arrow
#

like, this is tier 20 paladin gear

gaunt star
#

Fluffy beards

crystal arrow
#

its still the same style

glossy hemlock
gaunt star
#

Cid uwucarby

glossy hemlock
#

I was gonna say Lahabrea but you’re also correct

silk cape
torpid yoke
glossy hemlock
gaunt star
#

Football pads

crystal arrow
crystal arrow
silk cape
#

Yeah, Samwise really made "giant shoulders" a key component of the company artstyle

open bane
#

what's this are we pointing fingers at world of shoulders

silk cape
#

nononono hold up HOLD THE FUCK UP

crystal arrow
torpid yoke
#

Where...

silk cape
#

This isn't supposed to be "bash on Blizzard hour" it's just demonstrating that there are key incompatibilities between Warcraft/Blizzard's art style and FF14. Which makes a Warcraft collab a really really tall order. I'd argue an impossibly tall order.

crystal arrow
#

i dont think the armor would feel the same if it was translated

#

i could maybe see like. weapon glams, which could be cool

open bane
#

honestly I wouldn't mind one tank set with giant shoulders but I'm really happy they don't all have this

crystal arrow
#

ashbringer or doomhammer

silk cape
#

weapon glams could work, perhaps.

torpid yoke
#

I want more coats

lusty shadowBOT
open bane
#

huh

crystal arrow
#

the only thing about ashbringer though is that its two handed, and ff paladins are sword and board...

glossy hemlock
open bane
#

wolfram looks more like just regular pauldrons

#

ah heavy wolfram

glossy hemlock
#

It’s so boxy

open bane
#

but not very spiky :/

torpid yoke
strange wing
#

Look I like battle robes okay?

#

Especially on casters

#

Also a Frostmourne glam for DRK would be cool and mald inducing

granite nimbus
#

You'd need the Shadowstalker set for that I think.

torpid yoke
#

Maybe one day they'll make it purchasable with trophy crystals

gaunt star
#

I can't wait to commend people based on who has the cutest portrait

#

Even if they play awful aslong as they have a cute photo then that's all I'll need

reef edge
#

When they cure bot but also have an amazing chest shot

frigid isle
#

I think now is a good time to use my fantasia 😳

gaunt star
#

Lewd portraits won't get any from me tho bc those are unoriginal

chilly bluff
reef edge
#

Why that DNC look familiar...

torpid yoke
#

Tag yourself, I'm the warrior and dancer

glossy hemlock
reef edge
#

I'm the bard but it's my bara side ass portrait

glossy hemlock
reef edge
#

God I love being a highlander

torpid yoke
glossy hemlock
#

But then I thought it would be weird cause they’re a lalafell

#

So I just went with the portal

brisk quail
#

The best Portraits are salutes, waves and ACTION poses

#

Lewd is bad

torpid yoke
#

Lewd is lame

brisk quail
#

Big facts

torpid yoke
#

Unless it's tasteful lewd

brisk quail
#

Clothes are as lewd as they get

#

Good clothes > being openly lewd

#

A good suit > dumb revealing dancer gear

reef edge
#

I farmed this back revealing outfit for days and by god all of Eorzea is gonna see my manly muscled highlander back

#

It's for the gays hun 💅

gaunt star
#

Makes a questionable lala portrait so I force people to see it omegalul

glossy hemlock
gaunt star
#

I might nyaissahaha

oak pike
#

man i hope BLM gets nerfed in pvp

#

i dont like BLM players

gaunt star
#

BLM players don't like BLM

oak pike
#

BLM players are never happy unless they gapping someone

gaunt star
#

And even then

#

Are they really happy

oak pike
#

honestly all the casters are annoying in crystal confict

gaunt star
#

When I play SMN I make it my mission to annoy people

oak pike
#

SMN players are hiding in the corner waiting to get a penta with bahamut

#

RDM face rolling their keyboards to stance dance

#

BLM players just spamming flare and paradox

rocky plover
#

Working on my prepatch caps, Any ideas what they might be adding for the fate gems?

pulsar current
#

i dont think they added anything?

rocky plover
#

That's from the 6.3 prelim notes

pulsar current
#

oh shit mb

crystal arrow
#

probably just new mats

chilly bluff
#

Won't know until maint ends probably

rocky plover
#

Yeah... I was just trying to decide if it would be worth it to cap the bicolor gems.

torpid yoke
#

always be capped anyways

#

it never hurts to be since you can just turn it into vouchers

queen willow
#

Oh, tomorrow MT

frigid isle
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so itll be the crafting and gathering materia that will sell for lots?

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where can i buy those with sacks of nuts

brisk quail
# gaunt star BLM players don't like BLM

BLM players always complaining their job is the most cohesive and one with the most consistent set of upgrades through the expacs since it's the directors fave jobuwucarby

earnest vine
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Island is just a free materia printing machine, I kinda expect prices won't go quite as high this time around because of it

analog hemlock
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with the new patch, do we have to remake our plates? are they gonna reset?

torn igloo
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are we expecting anything new for white gather scrips? or just purple

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debating whether to cap

tawny relic
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Probably just purple

analog hemlock
torpid yoke
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no

low nexus
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Glam plate savage

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Whats gonna bring the most comms

strange wing
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I will be holding a gun at the camera

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As if I was threatening the party member

low nexus
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Hmm

torpid yoke
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are we talking about our portraits or glamour plates cuz either way niether re getting reset

primal basalt
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but portraits matter now for comms

torpid yoke
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doesnt change taht they wont reset

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they only reset last time since it went from beta to full release

frigid isle
tawny relic
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Don't think they have the option to exchange for materia

torpid yoke
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crafting and gatherer materia always sells good

earnest vine
torn igloo
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lopos will probably give crafter materia

gaunt star
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Today they gonna unveil job patch notes?

earnest vine
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tomorrow

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after servers go down for maint

strange wing
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The anticipation

wary ginkgo
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just saw this from the last letter from the producer. ngl, kinda like these changes, cant wait to see the full change log

brisk quail
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It'll hopefully remove some of the jank and make PLD not feel like it's hitting like a wet noodle all the time.

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Like two attonement rotations

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And the godawful opener

wary ginkgo
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i played paladin since half way through ARR (swaped to it when i saw there was a sword and board i didnt notice at first) and i gotta say, i always wanted paladin to be heavier on the magic

brisk quail
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And now we got/get an extra cooldown so we're not down a cooldown compared to other tanks

wary ginkgo
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which is indeed pog

brisk quail
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I always wanted PLD to be the safest tank for defence

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But it's very much not

wary ginkgo
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and hopfully cover gets yeeted out of existance

brisk quail
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Despite having a shield

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Then you have naked guy with an axe and a 20% hp bump and literally the blackest night beating you out in pure mitigation

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When you have a SHIELD

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It doesn't feel good

tawny relic
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Technically speaking TBN is a shield

brisk quail
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Esp when your 'mitigation' tool

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Is variable

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Based on the ilvl of your shield/difficulty of the encounter

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20% block mit is only if you're not synced down and you have the best shield possible

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Most of the time you'll get synced to 19% block mit

wary ginkgo
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paladin being the "magic based tank" (i think anyway, correct me if im wrong), when will we get a no magic healer. let me slap someone with a medkit

brisk quail
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And if you're day one? You're gonna be around 16% block mit

dim sigil
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Get rid of regicast phase w.e its spelled

brisk quail
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Nah. Keep requicast

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Throw away FoF

wary ginkgo
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whats fof again

brisk quail
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FoF has no reason to exist but pad pre-60/62 pld