retired-patch-6-3-discussion

[daring rapids]

Aight, ty

[dawn wave]

wonder when they're gonna drop those maint times

they did say it wasnt gonna be a 24hr maint right

[tired kettle]

i swear it was on the jp twitter somewhere

[pulsar current]

Well there’s no real reason for it to be 24h

[gaunt star]

what do we knw about 7.0 so far

i think we may get a new cast

[late aurora]

We basically don’t know anything

[daring rapids]

Didn't Yoshi P say 7.0 would be like a new beginning

[pulsar current]

No

[late aurora]

I think they said Krile is gonna have a bigger part going forward, but that’s not saying much

[gaunt star]

i do recall hearing something like he said 7.0 is going to be something so that new players wouldnt need to know the story of 1.0-6.0 and it would be like everyone starting fresh altogether

[gaunt star]

yeah

[dawn wave]

theyve only really mentioned sort of off hand that because msq up til the end of 6.0 is so long, it could be interesting to have a way for new players to be able to jump in and play without slogging through msq but i never interpreted that as solid plans, more like a "maybe this is possible"

[gaunt star]

and apparently lots of hints of future content in Shadowbringers

[dawn wave]

apart from that we literally have no idea

[gaunt star]

i wouldnt mind it personally ngl , it would be so nice

[dawn wave]

doesn't concern me so idc

if they can make it work, great, but xiv has so much story idk how much you can compromise like that

[gaunt star]

Do you guys think Zero could be Azem's shard

yea

[dawn wave]

i hope not

[late aurora]

Agreed

[dawn wave]

not everything has to be related to wol or azem

but i don't really feel strongly about it

i'm gonna kiss her regardless

[gaunt star]

many hints and so on, its just the vibe xD

[dawn wave]

which hints?

[late aurora]

There really haven’t been any hints to that tho

[gaunt star]

wol statue, her mom was depicted as a hero

[dawn wave]

that statue was just stated to be of a hero

[gaunt star]

her link to zenos

"friend"

[dawn wave]

not specifically a wol or the wol

plus, iirc that voidsent looked at the wol and said it wasn’t us

[glossy hemlock]

They just meant they’re gonna remember to include her in art pieces from then on

[gaunt star]

shes half voidsent, when we save the 13th shard..would she die? so we might absorb her?

[dawn wave]

no thank you

[silk cape]

tha's dark bro

[crystal arrow]

no thanks

[gaunt star]

🤣

[late aurora]

Why would she die? She’s totally fine living off normal things

[glossy hemlock]

If anyone on the thirteenth is Azem shard then I’d rather have it be Golbez than Zero.

Zero would be soooo lame.

[dawn wave]

i hate the idea of wol going around and absorbing shards to get stronger. that totally undermines one of the main themes of shb being that emet was wrong about people with less shards being inherently weaker

[bright gazelle]

It's eye guy. Wandered the void and knows everyone

[gaunt star]

dunno

[gaunt star]

ye it could potentially be him

[crystal arrow]

also just not kinda our thing to go around doing that in general. would rather have her just be new main cast

[dawn wave]

yeah

[gaunt star]

it would be awesome if she joins the scions

[tawny relic]

Broke: Absorbing all our shards
Woke: Shard group chat

[gaunt star]

LOL

One for all WoL

[dawn wave]

Seto: Of course, you are you, and no one else. We are defined not by the soul we are born with, but the path we walk.

[bright gazelle]

My fever dream is that we assemble a squad of shard-hopping people to travel to the other worlds to survey them and fix problems. Ryne and Gaia, Fordola, Cylva, Unukalhai and his boyfriend

[gaunt star]

idk i do think at one point we will eventually become whole 14/14 shards

[late aurora]

Yeah no

[dawn wave]

anyway that quote is why i don’t wanna meet any more characters that used to have their own lives and just up being absorbed into wol

[bright gazelle]

I don't think they'll ever touch the hot potato of other Azem shards. I do think we'll visit another shard of the planet eventually though

[gaunt star]

i mean technically they are gnnna die anyway and be absorbed by the wol either way lol

[silk cape]

Zero: shows up inside WoL's head
Midgardsormr says: A NEW CONSTITUENT, I SEE
Fray says: coming out of the bloody walls lately
Ardbert says: fancy a beer, friend?
Myste: asleep on the couch
The Avatar says: HEEEEEY EDDIE.....
Zero says: You. I know you. From Barb's domain, right?

[gaunt star]

thats if they die , but yeah they dont have to and can jus tlive

[dawn wave]

they can die and remain dead on their own shard?

[late aurora]

if they die, they reincarnate

[dawn wave]

each shard has its own lifestream anyway

[bright gazelle]

reincarnate through the lifestream of that shard yes

[gaunt star]

that gathering would be so cool 🤣

One thing though , I wonder what the Watcher's role is

[silk cape]

Yeah, speaking seriously, there's no narrative reason to have WoL continue collecting shards of Azem. It's just reductive of those other characters and I feel like it would shortchange what our relationship with Ardbert was in the first place.

[gaunt star]

Fair

[late aurora]

Also like, we spent 4 expansions stopping the ascians from doing exactly that
Rejoining people

[tawny relic]

Again, the only way I'd want to "reunite" with the other shards is to make a linkshell or something similar.

[late aurora]

We had to combine with Ardbert to save the world, and he was okay with it
They definitely ain’t repeating that 5 more times

[dawn wave]

the thing about absorbing ardbert was that it wasn’t just about making the soul stronger aetherically, wol and ardbert also had an emotional bond from their shared desire to save the world

[bright gazelle]

It will only work if they spend two expansions setting it up like they did with Ardbert. And that story's already been told, they're not going to tell it again

[iron birch]

TBF at best I expect goblez to be the wol, just to make a parallel with the wol

But also not really

[dawn wave]

maybe they’ll set up zero to be “a” warrior of light of the 13th but have golbez actually be the shard of azem

but still i don’t really care for azem shard stuff ngl

[gaunt star]

Hmm btw does anyone know how Azem knows we would come back to the past?

[iron birch]

TBF I only thing goblez is a possibility cause it would be cool if Azem, the usual typical hero, turned out to be the villain

[silk cape]

He doesn't, really.

[iron birch]

But also like, doesn't change much

[dawn wave]

panda isnt finished so i assume we’ll get answers in 6.4

[gaunt star]

So it just went by chance and he just randomly predicted someone will come back to the past?

[bright gazelle]

I assume we'll never find out

[dawn wave]

we dunno

[gaunt star]

nah , they dont leave stuff like that, guess we will find out later on

[bright gazelle]

They're not going to tell us anything more about past Azem

[analog hemlock]

azem is just doing a bit a trolling

having a laugh

[silk cape]

For the kind of chaos gremlin who takes over the Seat of Azem from legendary shit-stirrer Venat? Yeah, I 100% expect that Azem said "don't worry, it'll make sense eventually" and then it just fucking DID.

[analog hemlock]

cheeky bastard

[gaunt star]

lmao

well yea hes either trolling or theres something else 🤣

[tawny relic]

Open to interpretation

[dawn wave]

seems like a weird choice to have themis refer to azem telling him things if they were just saying weird shit that happened to come true

[bright gazelle]

"Hey this minion with aether like yours showed up, did you make this?" "Uh, is it doing anything bad?" "No it's trying to help" "Yeah sure"

[tawny relic]

Our Azem follows the bro code

[gaunt star]

what a gigachad

[dawn wave]

elidibus investigating elpis alone without azem being involved in the story wouldn’t have changed much so far ?

[gaunt star]

well Themis's character development...idk

[dawn wave]

so them bringing up azem feels weirdly intentional because we know they tend to avoid being too specific about azem

we’ll find out i guess

[iron birch]

It would have been harder if not impossible to reach p7-p8

But that's kinda it

[dawn wave]

could you elaborate

[iron birch]

I do expect it just FFXIV share of trolling too

[gaunt star]

oh and then panda appeared in the real world

uh present day

[iron birch]

Our wol can slip through Hephistatos traps cause his aether is thinner compared to the ancients

[dawn wave]

what does that have to do with azem’s involvement?

[iron birch]

It was in answer to this, my bad

[dawn wave]

it’s 5am so i may be forgetting things lol so i’m not sure what you mean

uhhh

[iron birch]

I also just woke up, dw

[dawn wave]

i said azem, not wol there

[silk cape]

yall mufuckers need sleep

[dawn wave]

elidibus can investigate pandaemonium with wol without needing to mention azem at all

[crystal arrow]

i mean, azem kind of pushed themis to go, didnt they

at least thats implied

[silk cape]

Themis: Azem, I think some weird shit is happening at Pandaemonium.
Azem: Well, I can't go or it'll look like the Convocation is heckin investigating, but go tour it if you like.
Themis: When do you think would be the best time?
Azem: Have patience. You'll know the right moment.
later, Themis hanging around in Elpis
Themis: Hmm. Are you a familiar of Azem by chance?
WoL: nods mutely
Themis: This must be the moment Azem spoke of. Come along then, let's figure out what's up with this twisted prison complex. It'll be fun.
WoL: nods mutely with a sweatdrop

[dawn wave]

my point is that it feels strange for themis to mention that he’s been telling azem about everything and how azem was the one who guided him to go to elpis in the first place, if they’re just gonna say “lol azem was trolling”/“its up for interpretation”

[stone flume]

Themis only waited cuz Azem said something will come to you to guide you

And I don't think he wanted to go alone either, IIRC

[dawn wave]

yeah, i’m saying they could’ve very easily written a version of pandaemonium where it makes sense for elidibus to investigate elpis alone without needing azem to be involved at all

so the fact that they’re mentioned so much would be strange if that lingering question of WHY isn’t resolved or hinted at

like “azem was just trolling and whatever they said ended up true xd” isn’t enough for me lol

[silk cape]

Themis' message says: "Azem, thanks for sending along that familiar, been a boon to my investigation."
Azem says: "Familiar? The hell he on about?"
Venat says: "Just play along. Trust me."
Azem says: "Well, if you say so..."
Azem's message says: "I've got the utmost faith in you, kid, keep me abreast of goings-on and I'll provide further support as I can"
Venat says: "Very good. Oh, and pour me another glass of that wine."
Azem says: "sorry, already finished it off"
Venat says: "oh boo"

[analog hemlock]

azem is just having a bit of a laff m8

[subtle pasture]

"Indeed." I couldn't bring myself to shatter his faith. I did, however, vow to treat my "friends" to a lecture on priorities.```

This be Themis, of course.

[silk cape]

I understand what you're saying, but I also think they want to play with the idea that Azem (likely due to Venat's support) is already providing cover for the WoL in order to preserve the convergence in the timeline. Which is to say whenever something weird involving some familiar of Azem shows up, she has to treat it as part of what WoL was up to overall and keep anyone else from interfering, including Azem.

[subtle pasture]

If anything I feel like their... casualness? esp between each other is all about skirting Convocation protocol,

Themis as Emissary needs to weigh every other Seat's opinion equally

....so he just asks Azem's theirs and rolls with it

"...Elidibus, but why." "Well I took a consensus of all Convocation Seats present and--" "...It was only Azem?" "Well the rest were busy!"

tl;dr that all of Themis' affability is that a wild card like Azem lets him skirt a lot of rules

which goes both ways, the Traveler can do so because the Emissary approved

We totally see this with how Themis handles Lahabrea's wish to sever off Pandaemonium in Abyssos,

Also Themis in Pandaemonium in general, the loveable scamp.

[iron birch]

The problem was that I slept too much

[pulsar yacht]

can't sleep clowns will eat me

[brisk quail]

Honk honk

🤡

[regal lantern]

Are ppl really complaining about new gear? Thought ppl would love it

https://twitter.com/aelynn000/status/1611048836759273472?s=20&t=cCCNSyt-OnhHiTm0w92NYQ

Aelynn // brave little spark (@aelynn000)

Only in ff14 will you hear people say " this glam is boring. Minimal effort. Really underwhelming. " and this is the glam

Twitter · Jan 5, 2023, 5:15 PM

[pulsar current]

Yep

[shut oyster]

I mean

healer gear is boring

i'm not gonna lie to you

[pulsar current]

Twitter will complain about everything and anything

[shut oyster]

there is far better robe designs out there lol

I do like the other gears though

just casting and healing are boring i'm sorry

[pulsar current]

I might pick up healer idk yet

[shut oyster]

I think i'm gonna pick up aiming or fending

it's kinda weird to get so worked up over other's people opinion on the gear

it can be boring to them, they can say it's boring, I don't see an issue with that?

[gaunt star]

you must appreciate every detail because SE is a small indie studio with 3 employees

[thorny flax]

I like all of them except for the healer and caster piece maybe. it's always robes and most of them look like shit on male characters

[shut oyster]

"i'm begging people to only say it's not for them"

like i'm sorry

but really

[thorny flax]

on the other hand the tank set is GOAT

it's so good

[shut oyster]

fending getting gear with shoulders that actually look nice for once

[thorny flax]

yep

I imagine that this set will look great with the EX 2 weapons

they share the same theme

I'm so glad I kept the reaper scythe

it makes me wonder if they will reveal something regarding venat

[regal lantern]

I do feel the sets feel I've seen these sets before, and yup, these look similar in design a lot

[shut oyster]

on the alliance raid? no

[thorny flax]

we can never have enough sets that look like the sage one. It's the only healer set I like

unfortunately

it's not a healer set

[shut oyster]

oops all robes

Honestly if they gave us the aiming or scouting gear for healing and casting

that'd be nice???

I don't know why they can't just make them look like that

[thorny flax]

yeah but then aiming and scouting would bitch about getting the robes

[torpid yoke]

wa

[crystal arrow]

they dont look similar at all

[shut oyster]

just don't make robes period

or make them look cool at least, like I'm saying these might be one of the most boring looking robes yet

[thorny flax]

they really should no longer make robes for a certain time. I want them to take risks in terms of design

make some crazy shit

like the new pvp set

or the old pvp set

something that looks badass

[pulsar current]

Robes for gods and ascians makes sense

But yeah there’s a ton of them

[fallen trail]

yall see that new glamour?

[sleek latch]

The new raid sets aren't bad, they're quite good looking

However, they are VERY much not my style and I'll likely never use them for glams

[thorny flax]

Everytime I like a set I still end up glamouring the job sets because that's how I see my character. A classic FF protagonist and I hate it because I really don't like some of the job sets but still end up glamouring them KEKW

[sleek latch]

By and large I prefer more modern looking clothing for my bun (the streetwear jacket, skyworker pants, rebel boots are a favorite glam of mine)

If I'm looking for a more fantasy appropriate look my aesthetic leans more towards the Fending/Maiming sets from Eden's Promise

[thorny flax]

yeah the eden's promise sets were absolute fire

I still need to do E12S because the chest piece is the only thing that is left for fullset on my tank

and the weapon

[sleek latch]

Yeah I want the dyeable maiming chest from e12s

it's such a gorgeous chest piece

[pine epoch]

everyone got their own taste. I wasn't a fan of Aglaia that much nor this.

[thorny flax]

I'm really excited what they are gonna do with the new deep dungeon weapons. Yoshi P's weapon changed when he entered the new deep dungeon but it was no glowing weapon like we used to have

it was more allagan style

[crystal arrow]

if they dont glow imma be disappointed ngl

[sleek latch]

I kinda hope they go well with the Lost Allagan pvp sets

[crystal arrow]

late allagan?

[sleek latch]

yes sorry

brain no worky

😂

[thorny flax]

if they shadowdrop more job set recolours in pvp I'm gonna pog. I absolutely love that they released recolours. Especially the DNC and GNB set

[pine epoch]

would be nice as the recolors are higher texture quality

More crisp

[thorny flax]

we even got new weapons

the GNB weapon is so cool

[pine epoch]

but I'm of the opinion glowing weapons from DD suck

so I'm happy its different this time

might be worth getting for glam

[sleek latch]

I'm looking forward to further forms of the GNB relic

It's a good start and the GNB relic from ShB was my favorite

[gaunt star]

I just want dyeable law's order weapons

[sleek latch]

can you not dye laws order?

I don't remember

[chilly bluff]

I would like the cheetos if they weren’t cheeto colored.

[gaunt star]

Only the augmented versions, which glow

[sleek latch]

ah ok

And the laws order stage doesn't have a matte version like the final stages do

[pine epoch]

Glowy versions having dye is fuckin stupid

as you can't often see the weapons dye

[gaunt star]

^-

[torpid yoke]

the wa?

[gaunt star]

And it's a pretty intense glow too most of the time

[torpid yoke]

Heaven on high ones?

[gaunt star]

Not like the end version

[chilly bluff]

HoH weapons lol

[torpid yoke]

You can get the non glowy ones

[thorny flax]

PLD changes are gonna be so fun. Not because of the changes itself but the reactions

[chilly bluff]

People are still malding about Kaiten. I for one am sick of that kind of doomposting.

[sleek latch]

HoH weapons are fugly

[gaunt star]

The nonglowy ones are not dyeable. That is the point

[sleek latch]

IMO

[pine epoch]

Yes non glowy version of the weapons are undyeable except for the final form of STQ relics

Also because Glows are VFX they will never be dyeable at all

So dye on glowy weapons is just pointless

[gaunt star]

I'm not asking to dye the glow

I'm asking to dye the replica non- glowy versions

[pine epoch]

Yes I know, I'm just saying this because there are people out there that do ask for glows to be dyeable

Like the people wishing the Abyssos fire halos were dyeable

[gaunt star]

I can understand that

[brisk quail]

I need the PLD rework notes asap

[sleek latch]

I'm really not a fan of glowy armor

Neat for like a week then I get tired of looking at it

[brisk quail]

I need to know if two attonement is fixed

Pls don't ruin this for me The Balance

I don't wanna suffer

[pine epoch]

Glowy shit in general is kind of annoying. Yes I run around with a glowy eureka weapon but mostly cause it looks like a RGB Ramstick

This is in reference to the Drk Eureka weapon final form

[brisk quail]

Good base model > Good VFX

[sleek latch]

Glowy weapons mostly don't bother me because they don't glow when sheathed

[pine epoch]

Which is my thought process mostly to

[gaunt star]

Two toned attonements be tumbling through time

[pine epoch]

But there is a glitch to enable the glow while sheathed

[sleek latch]

I'd hate glowy weapons if they glowed when sheathed

[thorny flax]

I hope they keep the current fantasy in terms of switching between melee and magic phase but shorten it a little bit. And yes the end of the magic combo is just a flashier goring blade combo but it makes the entire thing feel so damn long.

I feel like the time it takes to complete both phases is way too long. I hope they make the entire thing shorter

and two atonement will likely be fixed

[sleek latch]

Also sometimes the weapon glow distracts from some wonderful textures

Like the Matte SAM relic from ShB is gorgeous and you'd never know it with its glow on

[brisk quail]

Hopefully their combos will feel more punchy

PLD as is feels like their buttons have no impact

It's just tickling over time

[thorny flax]

it's still crazy that a knight job relies so much on dots in terms of gameplay

give them more skills where they are using the shield

[brisk quail]

And that it's the least defensive tank

And the one most likely to die compared to the other 3 when hit with a tankbuster

[thorny flax]

I want them to bring the mechanic back where a block can proc shield swipe or idk how this skill was called

[gaunt star]

That's mostly the fault of Shelton

But if they're adding dr now it gets better

[brisk quail]

Sheltron is going to flat mit

Instead of block based on ilvl of shield

[thorny flax]

bulwark is gonna end up to be camouflage 2.0 calling it now

[brisk quail]

^

[gaunt star]

Gonna be bootleg heart of conundrum

[brisk quail]

I also hope

They fix MP management

Why do we gain mp

If we don't use it

[sleek latch]

God I love HoC

I love GNB so much

[brisk quail]

Like we DONT need riot blade or attonement or confetior combo to give us MP, give us a heal

We never have issues with MP like ever

[thorny flax]

I hope they remove clemency just to see the same people malding that said the entire time that it's useless and trash

[brisk quail]

On one hand, keep clemency. On the other, we're so discouraged from using it we only get to use it when shit hits the fan in the dungeon and you're soloing a boss

[thorny flax]

I feel like if they would make it ogcd it would just be another aurora

some people even don't want MP costs on it

imo its current niche is fine. it's just sad that people won't use it most of the times in raids

[brisk quail]

Me: shit I'm at 0.3 hp and I have a dot. I'm using clemency since the WHM is using glare

The WHM: this dude is throwing hard

[thorny flax]

I hope the pvp job designer can give the pve guys some ideas because the pvp jobs are interesting despite the balancing issues

[torpid yoke]

they're the same

[brisk quail]

Unless it's PLD

[torpid yoke]

[brisk quail]

PLD in PvP is not fun

It's just LB bot

[thorny flax]

I recently started SAM in PvP and it's so cool

[dim sigil]

war pvp is best

[brisk quail]

What do you do?

I press LB to capture crystal

[torpid yoke]

pvp has more freedom because CC

pve bosses dont react to cc so less freedom

[dim sigil]

i HATE drk pvp, they can just be. Im not taking damage now F u

[thorny flax]

I hate PLD in pvp so much because everytime I have one in my team they die bc of bad usage of cover and the enemy PLD is always the good one

[brisk quail]

PLD has

A melee combo
A dash with stun
A cover
A magic combo they never get to use unless they LB
An LB that requires good teammates to take advantage of

And it's BORING

It's a snooze fest as a PLD

[chilly bluff]

Man, Seal Rock is still the worst map in the game

[dim sigil]

gnb boring to play to

[brisk quail]

All of PLDs juice is in the LB

[oak pike]

i feel like a god playing paladin in pvp

[thorny flax]

can't wait for BLM getting buffed again in pvp

[sleek latch]

DRK and WHM are both my faves in pvp

[oak pike]

bullying everyone as a paladin in pvp

[dim sigil]

rpr needs a pve buff

[brisk quail]

Freeze duration up

Fire damage increased

Sleep duration up

[sleek latch]

DRK is fun because my job in pvp is to be as annoying as possible

[brisk quail]

BLM is seeing high use but it isn't quite hitting the targets we want, so it's getting a marginal buff

[thorny flax]

it's so fucking crazy that they buffed BLM after the first wave of buffs in season 1 just because content creators did dumb tier list and people doomposted regarding BLM, when a lot of top tier players played BLM

which caused casuals to not play BLM

while multiple BLM players were in the top 30s

[oak pike]

being a paladin in pvp i feel unkillable, i bully other players, constantly healing my teammates with confetti

paladin lb is whatever

[sleek latch]

I like trolling with the DRK limit break

Watching people instinctively jump to me because I have 1 hp makes me giggle

[thorny flax]

SGE got doomposted a lot too because ppl didn't understand it in pvp

"wait you need to play it offensive?"

season 1 of cc was so much fun because no one had an idea how to play it

I want it back Sadge

the new map looks really nice. can't wait to play it

[torpid yoke]

when everyone played whm

[crystal arrow]

the problem now are casters being too scared of being on the crystal

[oak pike]

games usually most fun when no one knows whats happening

[frigid isle]

will moonshine shine be 2,000 nuts

[chilly bluff]

The upgrade materials? Yeah the prices haven’t changed in centuries.

[somber storm]

How many nuts in a sack of nuts

[frigid isle]

i wasnt sure if someone answered this yesterday but what ilvl will the weapon drop be for EX5?

[gaunt star]

As a former PLD main

I'm excited to see how 6.3 changes PLD

[subtle pasture]

It will very likely be i625, between base and augmented tome weapons

[brisk quail]

As a current PLD main I am desprate for any PLD rework

Cuz PLD is a mess

[ember forum]

So this is the gear

I like what I assume is for tanks

This IS for tanks, right?

[iron birch]

Maiming

[ember forum]

Aww no

[quasi cargo]

Yeah from my understanding that was tanks and maiming is on the left (?)

its either or

[ember forum]

[iron birch]

Tank is left one

[ember forum]

Left looks like maiming tbh

[iron birch]

Said as much during the liveletter

[ember forum]

Makes no sense

but kay

[iron birch]

Also they're the same gear

[ember forum]

Why would tank,have less armour

[iron birch]

Just the cloth is colored differently

[pine epoch]

Tank and maiming a lot of times have the same model. Sometimes they dont.

This time I think they have same model but the change is one has a missing pauldron

[brisk quail]

I'd bet in far left being tank since close to healers and it has a circlet

[iron birch]

Also it might be a female/male difference on top of color

But ye, they're literally the same armour

[ember forum]

Oh, it looks nice tho

[pine epoch]

Wait they both have pauldrons no missing pauldron

[crystal arrow]

the middle is tank https://i.imgur.com/N9nx79l.png

[pine epoch]

Ye

[ember forum]

Omg yes ty

[pine epoch]

Check the LL translations

[ember forum]

I liked mid better ngl

[pine epoch]

They look the same

Only difference is cloth base color

[ember forum]

Who is it for the far right?

[crystal arrow]

scouting

[ember forum]

That one looks nice too

Probably the best looking but its fine

Im satisfied with healers and fending

[iron birch]

Yup, it is just that the star gets cut in the SS (as in you don't see)

And also different cloth color

[ember forum]

What ilvl is it going to be any guess or they said it?

[iron birch]

Which you can probably die anyway

[crystal arrow]

620

[ember forum]

Ooh nice

[crystal arrow]

its always the same as current capped unaugmented tome

[ember forum]

I was desperate cause I cant get lunar for my tanks so Im still using rinascita

Amyways nice skins from raid

but that limitation will be annoying

one piece per week

I think

[crystal arrow]

yep

[iron birch]

Ah, don't worry, the real problem will be getting it to drop in general

[ember forum]

I am not sure how I feel about tanking new alliance as a newborn tank, but I need to.do it as tank if I want to get the top piece

[iron birch]

Dw

If you fuck up, the two other tanks will pick up

[ember forum]

Also excited to see pld rework as well

[iron birch]

For most of aglaia you just turn to another DPS too

[ember forum]

Was anything shared abt it

except the fact its getting rework

[quasi cargo]

Just some minor things

we might know more during prelim notes soon

[iron birch]

on the 10th, ye

[ember forum]

Pld rework is released with 6.3 right?

[oak pike]

yep

[torpid yoke]

Can't wait for it to play similar to gnb for the time being

Unironically

[oak pike]

use that holy fang

then weave in your continuance ability

[brisk quail]

Pld will finally not feel broken

And not miss a defensive cooldown

[oak pike]

inb4 paladin gains the isssue of gun breaker

where it has too many abilities in a short window

[chilly bluff]

Make sword oath into continuation

[earnest vine]

what you don't like arthritis every minute burst?

[tawny relic]

Inb4 it also starts to have drift as a result of playing it

[oak pike]

paladins on dispair watch

drift plus too many abilities

the part that would be salt on wound is deals bad damage

[torpid yoke]

but what would become of attonement

[chilly bluff]

That can be another button too

[brisk quail]

• still having a 2.5 gcd for magic abilities

🥹

[chilly bluff]

PLD now accepting sps melds

Joking aside I have hope for it. Just have to wait and see for ourselves.

[oak pike]

you never gonna be happy with paladin

[tawny relic]

If they combined SPS and SKS, it'd help tremendously

[oak pike]

feels good to not be affected since i already play all my tanks at 2.5

[brisk quail]

Like

All they gotta do it tone it down to like 2.0 at base when using it

Like they do for overcharge and shit

[brisk quail]

Expect it when they drop it

[chilly bluff]

Aw yiss there's the maintenance window post.

8 hours?

[pallid girder]

Some tribal quests have two mounts right

like the ananta

imagine if loporrit tribes have two...

[tawny relic]

Yeah, the Ananta have two mounts

So the bnuuies might, too

[frigid isle]

im ready for 6.3 gimme that damn moonshine

[pallid girder]

hey now, you have to empty that nutsack

how are you going to go on the next Hunt Train otherwise

[somber storm]

Unload the nut

[iron birch]

We saw the elephant and the robot, so not impossible tbf

[chilly bluff]

Oh shit lol

Blackjack confirmed multi-seater

[brisk quail]

Damn. Terraria kinda crazy

With all this FFXIV being dead to me since PUG savage sucks I've been able to enjoy trying out new games like factorio and terraria both slap.

[pine epoch]

today should be patch notes dropping

so like...

Any minute between 2 am cst to like probably 4 am cst

[chilly bluff]

[pine epoch]

so in the next 2 hours

[trim siren]

They just rolled out it looks like.

[somber storm]

https://tenor.com/view/poputepipikku-pop-team-epic-anime-gif-10717129

[trim siren]

Yup, here they come.

Saw it hit my dev server. :D

[solar cape]

Prelim patch notes just dropped

[chilly bluff]

...oh shit

I feel they just spoiled a big story detail here. ||Tales side story with the eye is already going in to NG+.||

Eyyy DD, Exploration zone, and V/C dungeon icons display on map now

Records of Unusual Endeavors?

[earnest vine]

there's gonna be diving in la noscea. I can already hear the memes

[chilly bluff]

Odin fate hard capping at 50 from now on.

[tawny relic]

It'll still murder people in droves, but also why

Cap it at 60

[trim siren]

Ooooh. I like the new damage icons.

[tawny relic]

None of the jobs are fun to play at 50

[pine epoch]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/f1f2a66f48a3bd7b247178e8e6eeedbcd2deaeb2

[wary perch]

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/272e905b1f6cb59c25affc3a97c28b3e6ba8cb7b_34.png?1672991698

[chilly bluff]

Aw shit

[wary perch]

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/272e905b1f6cb59c25affc3a97c28b3e6ba8cb7b_35.png?1672991698

[earnest vine]

Now where's Form and Function?

[pastel venture]

new sit pose

wheres viera

[wary perch]

This is snake. do you copy colonel?

[earnest vine]

where Au Ra??? this is unacceptable

[pine epoch]

So either we fight the last of the fiends this patch because of tales of newfound adventure being added

Or we just getting both of their backstories this patch

[earnest vine]

I... can't tell if this is the new custom delivery NPC or not. I would not mind if it is

[pine epoch]

Its not

the new custom delivery npc is in il mheg

Anden is a leafman

Thats one of Andens sheep however

[earnest vine]

yeah that's what I thought the live letter said

[mint axle]

So it looks like the omega ultimate weapons will be the glowy savage ones, judging by this.

[earnest vine]

just kinda confused cuz our preview is sheep. A very cute sheep

[chilly bluff]

This guy is the new client

Also Feo

[earnest vine]

I love that we're getting more Feo Ul

[pine epoch]

Omega ultimate weapons are o12s weapons YES

[earnest vine]

I have wanted more Feo Ul since I finished 5.0

[chilly bluff]

Fkn

YES

[pastel venture]

[obtuse trout]

Behold even less gender restrictions

[trim siren]

This is going to be fun.

More portrait insanity.

[obtuse trout]

U also see the portrait when u give a com

So that's cool

[earnest vine]

any ideas? What's the history of new additions to bicolor gemstone vendors?

[pine epoch]

FINALLY A GOOD PICTURE

[trim siren]

Probally a new crafting mat.

[obtuse trout]

Preparing to see the absolutely worst

[trim siren]

Heck yeah it's gonna be bad. I love it.

[pastel venture]

"In order to prevent server congestion immediately after the release of Patch 6.3, we will be implementing multiple field instances for Garlemald."
Why garlemald explicitly?

[dense flower]

Msq

[obtuse trout]

U ready to see cursed portraits cuz I surely am but also I am not

[dense flower]

Cuz the dg afaik

[trim siren]

The more cursed they are, the better.

[chilly bluff]

[analog hemlock]

Biggest news I don't care

[analog hemlock]

I can sit differently now

[pastel venture]

finally the mahjong players can flex they know how to play mahjong

[turbid aspen]

so is that a century old sheep

[obtuse trout]

I want more idle poses next please

[oak pike]

hey thats the aymeric man spread

[obtuse trout]

Like don't be shy give us more idle poses

[chilly bluff]

Oh damn. PvP LB charge time is now shown in tooltips.

[analog hemlock]

Usually it's new furnishing

[pine epoch]

Portraits in the commendation window is so good

[obtuse trout]

Fr

[earnest vine]

finally

I might actually check on my animals now

[chilly bluff]

Chocobo suit and associated head pieces are dyeable now

[jaunty current]

Oh god

[obtuse trout]

We will now see rainbow chocobos in the wild

[earnest vine]

This is an improvement by all means

[chilly bluff]

yessssssssssssssssssssssssss

[obtuse trout]

It is until I see someone use a color combination that shouldn't exist

[chilly bluff]

THEY DID IT

THEY KILLED CROSS CLASS ONCE AND FOR ALL

[obtuse trout]

EVERYONE CHEERED

CROSS CLASS NO MORE

[chilly bluff]

OOoooOOOOoooo

I like this one

[wide wadi]

Reaper and sage weapons are now available from coffers that appear after completing Omega: Alphascape (Savage).
I just farmed 8 tomes (because I was unfortunate enough to not get a single coffer) for a SAM and then was too lazy to actually turn it in and get the SAM sword.

[chilly bluff]

These changes to the fishing log are goddamn amazing.

[wide wadi]

Now I get a cool Omega scythe.

[obtuse trout]

I Hope it looks good

[jaunty current]

Beep bop son

Beep bop

[brisk quail]

No paladin rework notes. Bad patch notes

[tawny relic]

Didn't even give us a tease

[brisk quail]

Not even a hint

[wide wadi]

I'll help you out here

[jaunty current]

Git gud tiny sword person

[brisk quail]

I'm going back to building in terraria

Wake me up when they put out pld rework

[tawny relic]

Wake you on Monday

[brisk quail]

Yes

[pastel venture]

cross class is gone

[brisk quail]

I'm not sleeping

[wide wadi]

-PLD Changes-
Skills and anything about PLD you liked: Nerfed and removed
Increased potency of X action by 10 to compensate

[pastel venture]

they better not remove magic burst

[jaunty current]

You'll be war 3 and you'll like It

[brisk quail]

They already took shield swipe, nothing can hurt me more

[pastel venture]

I want to committ i am the bone of my sword

[brisk quail]

I'm already broken beyond repair

[pastel venture]

just remove FoF smh

[chilly bluff]

Oh damn this is a great addition

[pastel venture]

and increase magic pot to compensate

[tawny relic]

Bring back Shield Swipe as an OGCD

[real tinsel]

Looks like TOP weapons will use the savage models as base

[tawny relic]

[pastel venture]

was there ever any doubt?

[brisk quail]

We got Damage type indicators and enfeebling and buff duration in party list

[tawny relic]

Keep the condition the same

[brisk quail]

This is good.

[real tinsel]

No. But sort of still had hope they would use a nice looking relic base

[tawny relic]

Given that TEA weapons used second stage Anima as base? Yeah

[pastel venture]

[oak pike]

Stormblood relics pretty poopy ngl

[brisk quail]

Let us have a little pray that the balance doesn't ruin new PLD into a optimizing hell like they did with two attonement rotation and requicast opening

🙏🙏

[oak pike]

They are

[earnest vine]

I think you're asking a bit much

[oak pike]

That’s their hobby job

[real tinsel]

Oh they will dont worry about it

[earnest vine]

optimizing is like, their thing

[oak pike]

It’s just are you gonna follow optimization

[brisk quail]

I just want it to be slightly reasonable

[oak pike]

I just do the basic magic opener with no pre pull fof

[brisk quail]

More than it is right now

[wide wadi]

This is nice because I always forget who was what in the 5 seconds before everyone mass-leaves an instance

[real tinsel]

I have a feeling there wont be much to optimise with new pld

[kind vector]

so 63 prelim patch notes just dropped

[oak pike]

And I’m chilling

[kind vector]

are we getting Custom Delivery for shb or ew?

[oak pike]

Ew

It’s just in a shb area

[tawny relic]

EW

[obtuse trout]

No you so real for that cuz I just forget that too I wish you also could like commend people AFTER they left cuz people leave so quickly

[tawny relic]

The ShB custom deliveries are in the Firmament

[untold gull]

oh thank god we don't have to go through msq to do the alliance raid

[oak pike]

But yeah balance gonna hyper optimize it as usual

Paladin was special cause it had a lot more going on compared to other jobs

[obtuse trout]

Isn't it always just the first alliance raid that requires msq?

[untold gull]

not quite. we had to progress through 6.1 enough to unlock alliance raid

i just liked going through the alliance raid so i was worried they were gonna do the same for 6.3

[brisk quail]

They're usally not that way given the alliance raid is... separate from that moment onward

They don't progress at the same time (normally)

[obtuse trout]

I See :0c

[frigid isle]

Something small that I’m living for

[viscid glade]

huge

[frigid isle]

Actually this is a big deal

Going from 5-30

We love that

[obtuse trout]

Yeah that's pretty huge

[viscid glade]

they do be making some backed improvements

[oak pike]

Yuge

[obtuse trout]

Also the timers for buffs and debuffs on the party list

[frigid isle]

Now SE can we please see more glamour plates

[obtuse trout]

That's fucking nice dude

[frigid isle]

🥺

[frigid isle]

Sooo helpful as a healer to see when the tanks cooldowns are about to come off

[obtuse trout]

Oh ye totally

People can now see me fuck up even more!

[wide wadi]

I don't pay attention to the tank unless they have 0.5% health

[rugged pecan]

does this mean what I think it means.......?

[wide wadi]

If superbolide icon then continue DPSing

[rugged pecan]

Are we... going to be able to re-purchase items that we dropped in dungeons?

[chilly bluff]

If this means we can just buy crafting materials that come from dungeons...

[oak pike]

Mansion varnish market in shambles

[untold gull]

can finally read the stuff on the ground

[trim siren]

Occasionally the WHM will bene me while I'm supered, right before I tank the boss hit /after/ I tell them on voice I'm supering.

Then grumble at me, I'm looking forwards to more visibility.

I'm really curious how many mechs we're gonna see the debuff timers for though, if it's everything, that's going to make coordinating some mechs way easier.

[untold gull]

i just realized that the portrait thing is coming out this patch too. i should go and make sure my portrait isn't ugly

[wide wadi]

P1S chains would be a LOT easier

[earnest vine]

everyone will know exactly who messed up High Concept

[obtuse trout]

Finally maybe people will actually esuna the doom u get in the first boss in dun scaith now that they can see THE TIMER hopefully maybe I'm too hopeful

[real tinsel]

nah they wont even know what esuna is most of the time

[obtuse trout]

[pastel venture]

healers gonna play yoyo with doom timer hitting esuna at the last second

[untold gull]

some people don't have esuna

[obtuse trout]

I recall using esuna on bard more then healers

[untold gull]

which makes me want to hit them with their green fucking cross icon for healer

[obtuse trout]

Ok yk i accept that as long as they use it

[twin ice]

wow did the patch notes accidentally spoil the 6.3 trial

[untold gull]

hey look, a new way to decide on who to give the comm to

[earnest vine]

ya'll better be making sure your portraits are perfect, people are just gonna comm the best portrait

[wide wadi]

Sharing the joke I just saw in chat in-game for portrait comms,

[obtuse trout]

"You.. have a pretty portrait Oh! You got a meme I commend you"

[wide wadi]

"Sorry tank, you did a really good job but I'm comm'ing the NIN dabbing in their portrait"

[obtuse trout]

If u don't get a comm yk u portrait sucked/j

[frigid isle]

No way

Tou can upgrade rinascita gear

[viscid glade]

that's normal

[frigid isle]

Has it always been like this

[obtuse trout]

That's totally normal

[frigid isle]

Ohh

[earnest vine]

yep

[frigid isle]

Is it a new name or like augmented?

[viscid glade]

is there like a document or an infographic that explains regular updates like that

yes

[obtuse trout]

Augmented

[earnest vine]

odd patches give you augmenting for the crafted set. I was also surprised in 6.1 cause it my first time being current

[obtuse trout]

Same

6.0 is the first time I'm current but yea

[earnest vine]

I think someone inspected me, saw I was wearing unagumented, then whispered "hey you know you can augment that right?" and I'm like, "WHAT"

[frigid isle]

How does one obtain these items

[earnest vine]

so thank you random person

[viscid glade]

wow endwalker babies that's new

[frigid isle]

Me, I’m an EW baby

[untold gull]

that made me feel old all of a sudden

[viscid glade]

I started in 5.1 I don't have any right to feel old yet

[earnest vine]

EW baby here, I'm just a no-lifer who's manage to accumulate A LOT of game knowledge in the past few months

[viscid glade]

you're only allowed to feel old if you started in an expansion with an ultimate based off of it

[obtuse trout]

With that a mean it's the first time I was fully catched up and whatnot I did start in Shadowbringers

[untold gull]

uh...does it count when two ultimates were released in teh expac?

[keen osprey]

Hmm, wasn't PLD getting a remake in 6.3? Is it not in the patch notes?

[obtuse trout]

It's not the full patch notes

[keen osprey]

Oh

[earnest vine]

They like to wait on that, so people don't riot

[keen osprey]

damn... i need more details... i wanna riot now

[obtuse trout]

The pld notes Will be in the complete notes which come out during maint

[chilly bluff]

There’s an NPC that you trade crafted gear to in exchange for tokens. Trading HQ crafted gives you the exact amount you need for that same piece. That same NPC will also sell a certain upgrade material bought with uncapped tomes. So take the tokens from the exchange and the materials from the same vendor and trade both for augmented crafted.

[untold gull]

they release it during maintenance so people can riot while game is offline

[keen osprey]

it's the only class i play, and it's in my muscle memory now. Having to relearn it is not going to be fun

[untold gull]

lol

be like monks

[tawny relic]

Swap to Gunbreaker

[untold gull]

monks have to relearn the job every expac

[keen osprey]

I've been trying to... but it's quite difficult to play

[tawny relic]

MNK and Astro get a new job every expac

[untold gull]

astro strays further away from its original inception

[earnest vine]

I still mourn nocturnal sect, for no other reason than I like beefy shields

[untold gull]

which is just too dang sad

[frigid isle]

Why did they kinda make this complicated tho lol

[keen osprey]

PLD was braindead for me. There's only 1 rotation, you follow it to a T
GNB and DRK is more "flexible", which actually just confuses me on what i'm supposed to do for which situation

[tawny relic]

No Mercy's your FoF window, your cooldowns will drift if you don't purposely delay your weaponskills with cooldowns to line back up with No Mercy

[keen osprey]

and when i adapt, i have to constantly check the cooldowns

[obtuse trout]

I am a rpr Main i Hope 7.0 gives me cool new boom move

[keen osprey]

Yeah i read this already, but i needed more concrete details.
But nvm, i'll wait for the patch notes

remind me again when is 6.3 maintenance?

[tawny relic]

Monday

[real tinsel]

my first time upgrading crafted gear I upgraded casting into aiming and needed casting next day for first ever savage raid they devinitly need to make the upgrade easier

[keen osprey]

... right after my holidays... gdi...

[untold gull]

ugh, that reminds me. we're back to weekly lockout on the glam drop from euphrosyne

gotta fight people for shiny armour all over again

[obtuse trout]

Fuck yea fights in group chat

If I see another rpr or a Drg it's on sight if the top drops

[earnest vine]

My static is going in as a party day 1, Imma fight my tanks for that top

[obtuse trout]

I'll do it day one with a friend from here probably

[frigid isle]

So what is this Bulwork ability from PLD

[obtuse trout]

Well I do it day 1 surely

Cuz aglaia day 1 was joy

Until the one mechanic in the last boss then the gun stopped

Fun

[tawny relic]

It used to increase block rate by 60%

[dense flower]

i dont remember any situation where drk has to change their rotation

[earnest vine]

Day 1 alliance raids are the best, and I can't wait to see how we all die in Euphrosyne

[dense flower]

same with gnb

[untold gull]

back when block was a thing

[tawny relic]

More than likely, it takes what Sheltron is now and that's the cooldown

[dense flower]

other than shifting order during burst which mostly high end opti

[wide wadi]

Day 1 Aglaia and watching everyone fall off the platform because they expected to get launched with it

[obtuse trout]

Oh same or I can't wait to see the raid in general

It looks so nice

[frigid isle]

Ok so a better version of camouflage

[tawny relic]

It's not even that high end, you drift even at 60

[untold gull]

day 1 of any raid/trials is always the best

[obtuse trout]

True and real

[untold gull]

no one can complain about wiping so many times

[frigid isle]

Doing them with my static 🫣

[tawny relic]

Yeah more or less

[pastel venture]

me omw first time tanking alliance raid accidentally cleaving the entire alliance

[untold gull]

expecting not to fight other tanks for aggro

[tawny relic]

Tank Orbonne but do that on purpose

[untold gull]

[frigid isle]

Is it gonna be hell to play as a HEALER when new trials/raids release

[pastel venture]

oh i will spinn the boss

[frigid isle]

I think I wanna play scholar lmao

Lemme just uhh

Spam my succor

[tawny relic]

Cool bug facts: Agrias has a 90° cleave on her buster

[untold gull]

i've had someone do that. no one was happy. even worse, that same tank kept staying on the ground when he dies because even their healer did not want him because he's an ass

[frigid isle]

Apparently Orbonne is getting updated

Somehow

[untold gull]

ugh

[tawny relic]

Nerfed again?

[frigid isle]

I read orbonne somwhere in the notes

[untold gull]

pls no

ah it's just target indicators

[chilly bluff]

Likely updating funky markers

[pastel venture]

when they gonna nerf math smh

[frigid isle]

They nerfed math boss?

No wayy

[untold gull]

they can't nerf it enough for people to understand it

[frigid isle]

What was it like before

[untold gull]

which one

[real tinsel]

complex university math

[untold gull]

well, at least it taught people that 1 is not a prime number

[real tinsel]

And still I see them pick 1 as prime number all the time

[obtuse trout]

I suck at math but even I knew it's not a prime number

[frigid isle]

The potraits at the start of duties is such a big game changer

[pastel venture]

finally i can show viera 2b butt to my party

[untold gull]

it is. because we'll know who's really horny

[obtuse trout]

Oh yeah true watch people speedrun their portraits cuz they don't want to expose themselves OR because they do wanna expose themselves

[low nexus]

Wait 1 is not a prime number?

[real tinsel]

Nope!

[earnest vine]

some math mumbo jumbo. Not prime

[lucid crater]

besides that's Ridornia lighthouse, so no math boss nerf

[low nexus]

Damn

[tawny relic]

No, since a prime number's definition is that it has two integer factors: 1 and itself

[iron scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-dual-guns-crazy-people-gif-21026588

[pastel venture]

MCH in 7.0

man i cant decided what i wanna do first on tuesday. Alliance raid or msq

[stark marsh]

MSQ for me, I always do msq before the corresponding raid

[rain onyx]

Alliance raid first

24-mans on day 1 are a mountain of fun

[pastel venture]

i forgor what did that backpack thing do?

[tawny relic]

It seems to be some sort of observation device.

[real tinsel]

Always msq first for me. After alliance or normal raid and after that extreme.

[pine epoch]

doing a quick detour when patch drops to do tataru quest for the glam

[pastel venture]

oh forgot about that

need the glam ye

[quasi cargo]

I will get home from work and start selling my 2000 materia xdd

[trim siren]

I'll sell mine once I meld my new gear.

[jaunty current]

Plays sick tunes

[astral terrace]

which one?

[tawny relic]

Tataru's Grand Endeavor

[earnest vine]

Gosh I almost forgot about the crafted gear. So much to do, so little time

[pine epoch]

https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1607655839082643456

☆オードリーAudrey☆ (@aitaikimochi)

Ohhh you can get this awesome yukata as an award if you do Tataru’s Grand Endeavor in FFXIV 6.3?!! SIGN ME TF UP!!!!!! 😱😱

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Twitter · Dec 27, 2022, 8:33 AM

This is the tataru glam

From her side quest.

[untold gull]

because tataru appreciate us so much

[somber storm]

She inks us

[pine epoch]

It will be curious if rubicante and cagnazzo both fall this patch. Or if only 1. Because the tales of newfound adventure ends this patch with it becoming ng+

Meaning we at least get both of their backstories

[pastel venture]

Yeah i think it was grimm? that hypothesized that we'd get both rubi and cagnazzo this trial, with golbez in 6.4

would be p sick

[gaunt star]

No info about PLD changes in the patch notes? :(

[jaunty current]

No

Go home

[chilly bluff]

They stopped putting job changes in preliminary notes because people would get mega toxic about numerical changes, positive or negative. They got sick of it and decided to hold off on revealing that kind of stuff until final patch notes hit.

[late trail]

crafting recipes for 5.x are gonna be Ruby/Emerald/Diamond at worst or WoL at best

DRK Diamond weapon looks like a takoyaki grill

[jaunty current]

I did the right thing and saved up diamond mats

[pastel venture]

The absolute doomerism of scholar players once they revealed job actions for endwalker. Not surprised at all.

[late trail]

SCH waddle was funny

and then Expedient

[gleaming rampart]

Should I actually pick up scholar? I'm not keen on it because I hate managing the carbuncle actions with my controller set up

[chilly bluff]

No more micromanaging. They killed that for good. Most skills that came from fairy have been reclassified so they come from your abilities and not pet abilities. A few other back end changes made it so you don't have to put too much thought into what your fairy is doing.

[gleaming rampart]

Oh that's good

[quasi cargo]

Its sometimes just putting the fairy in the middle before a pull

[pastel venture]

Scholar and drk were incredibly memed on when they showed job actions lmao. Fun times.

[lament seal]

"is is now"

[rain onyx]

they stopped doing it since shadowbringers

Also perception of SCH absolutely flipped once people realized how good a party-wide sprint is, which made it get nerfed

[gleaming rampart]

Patch team in absolute shambles rn

[lament seal]

https://tenor.com/view/caos-bob-esponja-crisis-patricio-gif-23199341

the team rn

[glossy hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[subtle pasture]

Scrolls through prelim notes

Well rainmaker’s the best hair they’ve given hroth yet

[chilly bluff]

Bruh there’s so much QoL

[subtle pasture]

It’s not fantastic, but it’s certainly the best so far

That is rainmaker, yeah?

[chilly bluff]

Yeah lol

[subtle pasture]

Also linkpearl emote

[quasi cargo]

Me pulling up doing /linkpearl after trapping people in p8s

[subtle pasture]

I assume it has the race adjustments they do in cutscenes

Iike how Miqo and hroth actually reach up to their ears

[quasi cargo]

viera dont right? i forgor

[subtle pasture]

…good question

[quasi cargo]

I think i repressed the memories

even tho ive played viera since ew launch

[subtle pasture]

I distinctly remember my hroth reaching up to his, Viera likely do

The new hroth /sit is awful

[pastel venture]

linkpearl? P sure the viera reach up to the bottom of their bunny ears

[subtle pasture]

Balancing finally decent hair options.I suppose

[pastel venture]

in cutscenes

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, looks like the same pose as Miqo and hroth,

[chilly bluff]

Yeah they reach to the correct spot

[subtle pasture]

Fem Midlander wins in the new /sits

Or is that fem highlander, idk if they have diff sits

[chilly bluff]

I will reserve judgement until I’ve seen them all

[iron scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/rurouni-kenshin-oro-anime-pixel-art-gif-8527166

[gusty osprey]

Why are they removing quests

[subtle pasture]

All the Valentione’s and LLD items have broken gender locks,

[rain onyx]

30 waymark save slots now

[subtle pasture]

And, these are mogstation, aren’t they?

[rain onyx]

yep

[subtle pasture]

…Jesus Christ really breaking the character data space allotments today

[chilly bluff]

Outlived their usefulness. They weren’t anything substantial anyway.

[rain onyx]

It was really just a weekly quest to get aether oil, which initially was like 1800 poetics

[iron scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-weird-skeptical-worried-disgusted-gif-4990489

[rain onyx]

but now they're like 350 poetics

[late aurora]

It’s just as easy to get poetics

[rain onyx]

so what's the point of the quest

You nearly get an Aether Oil's worth of poetics from doing the 3 CT raids

[subtle pasture]

iirc they’re the leiderhosen (sp) and Ladyhosen sets

No they’re not, but they’re very, very distinct sets that I don’t know what they’re based on

[pastel venture]

kinda curious how dirndl chestpiece will look on men

[subtle pasture]

Bergsteiger (formerly M) and Dirndl (formerly F),

[crystal mortar]

It is a Lederhosen outfit funnily enough. Bergsteiger means mountain climber. And Dirndl is just an alpine cultural dress (Dirndl itself meaning girl)

[subtle pasture]

Songbird and Valentine Acacia sets means this is a W for the lads,

[crystal mortar]

Dirndl top would sate my want for male corsets

[subtle pasture]

…next up is Moonfire attire

Actually were any of the moonfire things actual separate male female pieces

[pastel venture]

still waiting on npc attire

[quasi cargo]

Respectfully

[subtle pasture]

The lord’s and lady’s drawers come to mind

But I can’t recall if the chestpieces were separate

[crystal mortar]

They're the same pieces

At least this and last year's

[subtle pasture]

Ah ha, the bomb dance year had gendered pieces

[crystal mortar]

Whenever i fanta to felezen they just switch

[subtle pasture]

The lord’s and lady’s yukatas, which had different color selections too

But that was 2013-2015 moonfires

[crystal mortar]

I do hope they'll look at Npc attire soon

Almas dress is incredibly cute

[subtle pasture]

There’s been a few years of Moonfire having gendered pieces but I feel like,

Beachwear is gonna be a bit more,

Yeah?

But lately they have just made singular pieces with diff models

[crystal mortar]

I'd just be happy over bottoms being switchable

I like bath shorts on women

[subtle pasture]

There’s a few pieces scattered amongst the Moonfire stuff, we’ll see in the next de-gendering batch

[pastel venture]

Lyse attire on men

[subtle pasture]

9 MSQ quests and 4 Myths of the Realm quests

Oh yeah, and Euphrosyne is unlocked in the first one, “Return to the Phantom Realm.”

So that’s 3 quests of post-Euphrosyne story

[wide wadi]

Remember to do the alliance raid first

Don't be like me when I did Aglaia, I did MSQ first in ~4 hours and my first Aglaia run had a tank already have macros up for nearly every mechanic and ruined my blind run.

Or just set up a blind pf with others

[pastel venture]

ppl use macros on aglaia? never experienced that

other than weights i dont rly see a use for them

[subtle pasture]

Likewise, but it’s w/e, can filter off chat if it’s an issue. I always run 24mans like 3-4 times on day 1

[wide wadi]

It was only for release day and only the important things like "The platforms won't shift you!" "Be sure to balance the scales!" and "Fist facing blue/red means blue/red bad!"

[pastel venture]

ah

[iron birch]

just shut off the chat tbf

and honestly I did aglaia after msq, and people were still blind cause most did msq first

[pastel venture]

ask them not to spoil mechanics at the start

[wide wadi]

Personally I think the most annoying aspect was every macro having <se.1> <se.7> on them.

Really felt like Frontlines.

[pastel venture]

yeah that sounds annoying

[iron birch]

in the end it is either that, or the trial

[subtle pasture]

Tbf, it’s all things you’d pick up after seeing once,

Or should, at least

[pastel venture]

if you do both day 1 you'd prob get blind runs for both tbh

[iron birch]

ye

[pastel venture]

at least from what ive experienced

[iron birch]

and aside the balance - first, who can wipe you, it was mostly a one shot

[quasi cargo]

Why did patch have to be 1 day after i start work i'll have to pick if i want AR blind or msq since i dont have time for both

[pastel venture]

ye my first run we didnt even wipe to the balance just too good ig

[crystal mortar]

We do blind fc run

[wide wadi]

Think it was the second run so I could get my loot but for balance someone intentionally skewed it and wiped us

[subtle pasture]

My very first run was just uhhh, a wipe to Byregot, and 3 to scales

Scales definitely don’t just take one person to skew it, tbf

If one person skews it more than one person are out of place

[subtle pasture]

I keep rescue handy

[iron birch]

it is 2-3

but also people fucked up the second time

anyway this patch is nice

a lot of qol stuff

[subtle pasture]

The margin of error shrinks as people are on the heavier add side, also I hate a 1-2 add split because if it

[pastel venture]

ye an easy way to do it is just place all the adds on one side and everyone can just go to the other side

but that requires coordination which is hard to pull off in alliance raid

[subtle pasture]

Is why the rule of thumb is just stand opposite from your add to counterbalance it

[pastel venture]

that too ye

[subtle pasture]

I really appreciate whoever decided to petrify at 2s left

[iron birch]

the first time we did it in aglaia I said it and people were like "that's too hard to be an ar mechanic"

[subtle pasture]

Then you just point out the weights over head, particularly the add’s triple stack

[quasi cargo]

cant believe these toxic elitist raiders are taking over our casual content!!! /s

[subtle pasture]

And tbf, Aglaia was no challenging alliance-based mechanic perviously,

You never need to split the raid into their parties til then, and it’s not even a forced split because of a firewall

sideeyes Euphrosyne nervously

[pastel venture]

first math then weights

whats next volume??? Geometry???

smh this is too hard yoship

[subtle pasture]

So mechanic predictions, uhhh

Nophica will change the seasons, Halone probably has in-out shit in spear/shield mode

[iron birch]

I expect Halone to be just another reaction based fight

like azeyma

[pastel venture]

what are the chances menphina commits 7th calamity again

[crystal mortar]

U can't place them they are stationary

[subtle pasture]

Her big sword cleave probably needs a tank to parry

[pastel venture]

oh wha huh

didnt know this

[quasi cargo]

Imagine if you need 3 tank lb3s they wouldnt do that right

[thorny flax]

give halone waterfoul dance and let people deal with it

[subtle pasture]

The adds can just spawn either 1-2 or 3-0 or 2-1 or 0-3

[crystal mortar]

It's either the 3-0 or 2-1 split. Can't do anything against it

[quasi cargo]

right??

[crystal mortar]

Idk who came up with them being movable

[subtle pasture]

It is easier when they spawn 3-0 or 0-3,

But it’s just rng when he casts soul’s measure or w/e

Oh yeah, I noticed that Menphina’s 4-armed statues have a yellow and red tick overhead

Probably a slow slash - fast slash mechanic, like Shiva mirrors

[quasi cargo]

Ye means we know what models will be ultimates now

[iron birch]

Ye

[stuck roost]

Shiny 012s weapons

Aka uggo

[subtle pasture]

Oh cool, yeah omega omega weapons confirmed

[stuck roost]

Or even worse relic

[subtle pasture]

Speak for yourself, Omega Scythe and Omega Nouliths

[iron birch]

Thordan scythe was ugly too

[wide wadi]

I prefer the knife/spoon nouliths whenever they come out.