#retired-patch-6-3-discussion

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rain onyx
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they initially had thoughts about it during EW pre-launch live letters, but it seems they reconsidered it.

pulsar yacht
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doesn't want players to have FOMO. does it anyways with pvp rewards

iron birch
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summer isn't a pvp reward

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they stated as much when showing

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prob more island sanctuary stuff

wary perch
brazen trout
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HUH

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I guess it's time to do the tataru questline

random crescent
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tataru questline?

obtuse trout
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omg I need that

obtuse trout
brazen trout
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Tataru's grand endeavors

obtuse trout
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ITS GONNA BE FROM T H A T?

brazen trout
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I think

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yeaaah

obtuse trout
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good day to have done it so far

brazen trout
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idk what this is tbh

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The tataru questline is the closest thing I can think of

iron birch
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yeye

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imagine the booba on that dress too 2think

wind bough
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100% Tataru’s Grand Endeavour

iron birch
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it is also said in the website

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In the midst of all this, if I had to tell you one thing... Since the stage of "Tatar's Grossing Store" is set in the East, "Japanese-style equipment" will be included as a reward for the first time in a while.

pine epoch
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Oh yall already talked about it

old hemlock
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Bruh i know what my future Samurai glam is gonna look like lol

brazen trout
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zero surprises

flint iron
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i still prefer the new armor in heaventurn for sam

pine epoch
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Jokingly, "cant wait for people to make Bleach themed glams."

flint iron
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i think drk does have a sword

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that look similar to ichigo blade

rustic jackal
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I have a suspicion we’re finally gonna be able to make all the people asking for chest bandages in glamour discussion happy with this glamour

flint iron
rustic jackal
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like 70%

flint iron
rustic jackal
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I’m not even a Sam main but this’ll make me play it lol

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this likely being all glamour tho is so good

flint iron
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if it have tatoo in the back

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perfect yakuza glam

rustic jackal
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this is gonna look shit on xaela but I’m gonna be on board with it because it’ll look like the scales are fucked up

flint iron
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unless you use the dark side

rustic jackal
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It’s more just bad when they put tattoos over them

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otherwise they look normal enough

pallid girder
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holy, and i was saying the game needed more yukatas to a friend earlier

unreal hound
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i really like the skyworkers singlet but i never use it cause of the stupid tattoo

somber storm
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Welp, time to bring back the black katana for that outfit

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Also fuck, that has a bandage piece in it. I want a separate chest wrap top

unreal hound
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ive been wanting a standalone sarashi for forever

somber storm
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Now let's see which parts are separated

pallid girder
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Well, could be top, bottom, and the geta

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or one piece and the geta

somber storm
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Definitely would be the latter

rustic jackal
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I Hope they have like a skirt because the issue with a hakama we have rn is it shows your bare legs

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if it’s a one piece it resolves the issue

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but. it’s just funny when you do monk breakdance aoe and flash everyone by accident

pallid girder
rustic jackal
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Nah it’s the hakama really and it’s horrifyingly goofy because it’s all leg

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I think it’s rakshasa or whatever

pallid girder
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with the exception of a few, most of the hakamas in ff14 are skirt style, or andon

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leal samurai is an example of divided, or umanori hakama

rustic jackal
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Either way I want an option to wear shorts underneath this set

iron birch
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The samurai flashing his underwear whatever there is a trial or fight that throws them into the air

somber storm
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Wearing nothing at all

pallid girder
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Man we eating good with japanese glams in the new year

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first the one from heavensturn and now this

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rubs hands

somber storm
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Goddamn have to dedicate 2 more slots now

iron birch
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mad went from no good sam armor to 3 times that

somber storm
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Nah, have to dedicate different swords as well

flint iron
pallid girder
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wait hold up

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regarding that new glam

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could we also get a new hairstyle with it too?

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i don't think i've seen that ponytail before.

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correct me if im mistaken

wind bough
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Looks like headgear

ember tulip
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Yeah, i recognize the hairstyle, but not the ponytail

pallid girder
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ah, head accessory then

pine epoch
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Dark Knight SHB relic final form. Matte Blades Justice.

flint iron
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it look like the ribbon

pine epoch
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For those maybe thinking about a certain glam

pallid girder
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zangetsu

flint iron
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bankai

pallid girder
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bonkai

somber storm
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Alternatively

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The amh areng katana

pine epoch
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thats not a item as far as google is concerned

somber storm
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If the ffxiv gamer escape site works then I can link the proper katana

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It's from the dungeon

pine epoch
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Nabaath Katana?

somber storm
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That's it

pine epoch
somber storm
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Ye

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One of the only decent looking black katanas

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Even though it's a reused model

pine epoch
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Then Drk has this stupidly long Katana

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And Tsukuyomi greatsword

somber storm
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Ye

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A lot of good weapons to use for that glam

rain onyx
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I wish SE would give us Sephiroth's katana

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but at full length

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It'd clip everywhere and be amazing

iron birch
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It also will come with the first and unique alt stance for the game of course

rain onyx
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And when someone mentions his name, we ask if he has six arms

iron birch
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That too

wary perch
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But the spelling is different right?

rain onyx
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yes

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Sephirot vs Sephiroth

somber storm
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Monkey paw: we get the Ever Crisis version of Sephiroth

strange wing
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Nice to know there's a reason to do the Tataru quest now.

soft eagle
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only problem is

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no glowy

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and I like glowy

maiden idol
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7.0 when

soft eagle
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tomorrow

maiden idol
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Yey

soft eagle
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source: yoshi told me in a dream

maiden idol
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7.0 in 2024?

soft eagle
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jokes aside yeah its probably gonna be 2024

maiden idol
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Source: trust me bruh I'm telling ya

soft eagle
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covid hasnt really gone away yet

maiden idol
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Plx

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Covid dead

pallid girder
soft eagle
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depends on where you live I guess haha

soft eagle
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kinda sad

maiden idol
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I'll be 39 in 2024 lulz

soft eagle
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damn

pallid girder
maiden idol
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Ffxiv should have ended in 2022

soft eagle
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why

maiden idol
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Great finale

maiden idol
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Shame

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Anyone gonna play next patch on ps5? I'm still unsure if I should get a ps5 just for one game

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Such a waste don't you think

wind bough
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I would definitely say getting a ps5 for only one game is a waste

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And FFXIV isn’t the game to go buy a ps5 for

maiden idol
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Maybe ff16?

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Since it's like a timed exclusive at least

iron birch
soft eagle
maiden idol
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Yeee

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Thanks I wont get a ps5 then (and ff16 either)

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Well unless my ps4 dies out

soft eagle
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I dont like FF16 being a PS5 exclusive

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even if it is a timed thing

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doesnt feel right

wary perch
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Then Microsoft should have sponsored instead

soft eagle
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I mean they tried

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theres a reason xbox doesnt have FF14 or will be getting 16

gilded wigeon
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I thought the original reason ff14 wasn’t on xbox was because microsoft didn’t allow cross-platform communities to be formed at the time, not sure what the reason is now

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Might be a workload issue of porting it

pulsar yacht
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there's a lot of old bullshit regarding cross platform not working as purely a contractual issue rather than a technical issue

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I want to say microsoft's holdup was wanting dedicated servers for xbox users

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and gatekeep on their end with XBL

pine epoch
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Originally they wanted dedicated servers but this was back in arr and hw days

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Eventually xbox started getting on the trend of cross platform

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But there is some other reasons.

pulsar yacht
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mostly brand image management

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sony has always been mixed in their willingness to play with others

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microsoft internally didn't care but externally used XBL as revenue and didn't want to give that up

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which is why some dumbass add ads to dashboard and marketing ran with it

rain onyx
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The original excuse I remember was that Microsoft wanted players to need xbox Gold to play FFXIV, which SE was against.

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Since you don't need PS+ to play FFXIV

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probably just a rumor, though.

pulsar yacht
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that's about right

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there's also the slight issue of the way console games are certified

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and by that I'm talking patches

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certification is the reason so many ps3/x360 games had bugs well into the "patch it over the internet" era

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devs just didn't want to pay up

gaunt star
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I remember when Xbox was a topic of discussion for the XIV community and everyone was against Xbox joining the game for some reason

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Like, they didn't want to play with Xbox players specifically which was weird

pulsar yacht
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probably because COD was advertised hard on it and nobody wanted that crowd anywhere near their community

gaunt star
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But COD is heavily advertised on Playstation too

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So what makes Xbox so different

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But yeah, lot of gatekeepers in this community when in comes with people talking about Xbox

viscid monolith
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The actual answer is XIV players are stupid

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There was no good reason to gatekeep xbox players. It was just plain hysteria.

silk cape
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There's no good reason to gatekeep.

rain onyx
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Gatekeep people out of Kingdom Hearts so they don't need to deal with the confusing lore. /s

gaunt star
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Same with the time when WoW players were coming over here, I saw a bunch if people saying they didn't wanna play with "That community"

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Like....wouldn't you want more people to be playing this game?

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I don't understand the XIV community logic

viscid monolith
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Especially during HW. The game need more players.

viscid monolith
gaunt star
silk cape
gaunt star
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People who don't like the game will leave and people who do like the game will stay

viscid monolith
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And of they can't folly the rules they won't be here long

silk cape
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I was tasked for naming names in the past, I'm not going to specify.

gaunt star
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Lot of XIV players hate it when someone criticizes the game when it doesn't effect them at all

pulsar current
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Ah fair enough

gaunt star
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Not everyone has to 100% love the game with their undying loyalty

viscid monolith
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One streamer joining won't affect the game at large

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That streamer did join, nothing happened, and everyone worried felt silly if they had a drop of self awareness.

gaunt star
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Like if you say "Oh this trailer music is mid" or "This particular song is bad imo" people will go crazy

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I didn't know I was supposed to like every single piece of music in the game haha

carmine basin
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The more popular something is, the more toxic its fanbase will be imo

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So I guess they gatekeep because they dont want it to grow

carmine basin
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I just enjoy what I enjoy in my own bubble KaedeSip

gilded wigeon
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Criticize ffxiv? Then they must suffer! Yes! Suffer suffer suffer and know their folly!

torpid yoke
carmine basin
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Some ppl take criticism towards things they like as personal criticism

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Like "if you say this thing is bad, are you saying my taste is bad?"

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When it's usually just difference in taste

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Tho I usually say "I dont like X" instead of "X is bad" to avoid people taking it personally

gaunt star
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From my experience even if you say "I don't like X" sometimes they'll ask you why you don't like it and start to get on your case about it

carmine basin
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They usually leave me alone if I just keep repeating "yeah I just dont like X sorry"

gaunt star
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"Why don't you like it?"

I just dont, why does it matter if I don't like it haha

late aurora
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“Well I like it, and this opinion personally offends me” /s

gaunt star
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That's when you hit em with the /clap and walk away

silk cape
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Folks are allowed to not like things. I only get involved when someone dislike of something gets into territory where it becomes abusive of the people who make the thing.

gaunt star
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Yeah that's in an entirely different camp all together

stuck roost
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Well ffxiv has plenty of jank

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Like how you can't retrieve/extract multiple materia at once or can't select what materia to retrieve, can't put item on sale on retainer when duty pops up or use chest etc

torpid yoke
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I dont think the materia one is jank i think thats just data loss prevention

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What is jank is not being able to eat while sitting down

worldly roost
crystal arrow
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xiv has so much weird jank

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espec with how snapshotting works

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you also cannot unequip your weapon and be barehanded

torpid yoke
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I think thats to hide the adventurer class

gaunt star
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A mnk unequips emperors new fists and just rips their hands off

pulsar current
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Looks like he’s been… Disarmed uwucarby

silk cape
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"Unhand the Warrior of Light" takes on a whole different connotation

pastel venture
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Why cant jan 10th be today

analog hemlock
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no pls im not ready

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im still crafting

torn igloo
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same

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need to make 57 rinascita hood of casting...

gleaming rampart
torpid yoke
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You're mid

stuck roost
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Well I guess taste is subjective

silk cape
chilly bluff
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I’m also using that sarcastically. I don’t agree with their opinion personally but they can still have their own and that’s good.

silk cape
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fair enough

gaunt star
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nah thats def cap

granite nimbus
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Here's my controversial opinion: Gyr Abania is a fantastic region and the music is sorely underrated.

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Especially the Peaks.

torpid yoke
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i dont recall its music

stuck roost
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Now that's one mid zone with okay music

oak pike
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Only weird take I got is to the edge is underrated lyric wise

robust quest
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So it's hot take dumping ground time? ARR is quite good and is slightly better than Stormblood (excluding post patches.)

stuck roost
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Post arr is absolute crap and sb start is only slightly better than it

oak pike
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Post sb is the best post patch series tbh

iron birch
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Uhm

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Nah

robust quest
iron birch
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Cause post Ew exist now /s

robust quest
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But yeah, i got excluded post patches in my ranking because post-ARR is a complete dumpster fire

silk cape
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almost feel like we need a #hottakes channel for all this nonsense

oak pike
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I know you got a take crow

glossy hemlock
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For no particular reason

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Though legitimately I think it is one of the best post patches.

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It felt a lot more personal and effecting towards the WOL which is the same reason I like SHB so much.

eternal storm
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Idk, post shb was an emotional ride

glossy hemlock
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Post SHB is good and also more Gaius is better but post SB is really good imo

strange wing
eternal storm
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While here we are

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In post EW

silk cape
eternal storm
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The most boring post patch story imo

glossy hemlock
strange wing
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It's interesting at least

glossy hemlock
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The only thing saving it is the side content

eternal storm
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Im sleep

strange wing
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Zero being the edgiest thing since Shadow the Hedgehog works

silk cape
stuck roost
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I liked it when scion weren't present at hw start

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Since then they kinda have been everywhere from post hw onwards

strange wing
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Everytime she tips her fedora I was rolling

glossy hemlock
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M’voidsent

strange wing
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Okay, here's a hot take. I want the Scions to go and stay go

silk cape
stuck roost
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Yeah a personal adventure for wol with new peeps would be nice

glossy hemlock
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I’d miss Urianger though but they’ve sidelined him anyways

strange wing
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Y'shtola can stay cause she didn't have a character arc for the last 10 years but I don't wanna see the Twins without a timeskip

glossy hemlock
stuck roost
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She dies again and gets ressed for her new arc

strange wing
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I wanna hear Alphinaud's voice have a bit of bass

strange wing
glossy hemlock
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People would be weird about Alisaie if there were a time skip

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They’re already gross about her

glossy hemlock
eternal storm
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Why need a booty call while im LITERALLY HERE

silk cape
stuck roost
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Dunno how big the "sun" wol has

hardy knot
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lets queue up for the new ultimate

glossy hemlock
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Okay

gleaming rampart
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The only story arc you could possibly do with Zero is undoing her voidsent nature somehow and restoring her to how she used to be

silk cape
gleaming rampart
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Damn I completely forgot

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I tend to zone out when Zero starts to talk about debts and payment

iron birch
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ngl

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it took thancred like 8 years for his character arc

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so surely yshtola will get one haha

glossy hemlock
glossy hemlock
stuck roost
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Most scions are pretty boring in general

iron birch
glossy hemlock
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Urianger isn’t

iron birch
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jk jk of course

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I really like Zero so far tbf

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so I hope to see more from her

silk cape
iron birch
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infact remove urianger, thancred and Ghraa, thx bye

stuck roost
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She's new so there's room for development

iron birch
silk cape
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I wanna see Zero and Gaia fight

glossy hemlock
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I just hope she changes a bit and is more like… A person instead of a puppy idk

stuck roost
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Still I don't expect her to get ysyale kind of development

iron birch
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I mean

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she can go the estinien way

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an idiot in his heart

glossy hemlock
gleaming rampart
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Y'shtola isn't here to be a character. She's 14's mascot character. The character we put on the webpage ads to get horny boys to click on it

winged lagoon
glossy hemlock
gleaming rampart
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Yeah and the default option when 14 crosses over with other games like Dissidia and Opera Omnia

stuck roost
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Emet wasn't wrong from his pov

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I mean imagine being 10k year old dude

winged lagoon
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No thanks

stuck roost
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I would be tired of everything too

glossy hemlock
silk cape
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Gaia: "I don't think you fools understand who you're dealing with. I'm the Oracle of Darkness."
Zero: "You think you know darkness? I was born in it, molded by it."

glossy hemlock
stuck roost
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Making headcanon and accepting it as canon

glossy hemlock
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At least Emet stans are better than Zenos stans tbh

stuck roost
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I personally like Zenos

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Dude just wanted a fight is all

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And actually doesn't eat shit against meteion

glossy hemlock
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I’d like to just kick him

robust quest
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Zenos has gotta be one of my favorite characters, even if his character boils down to "Please just fight me."

gleaming rampart
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Emet sometimes introduces weird character angles. Like the optional conversation you can miss when he says that Zodiark has tempered him. Which means there is no way to effectively reason with him even though it seems like he wanted to be reasoned with

glossy hemlock
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Emet is interesting for sure

winged lagoon
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"Boyfriend implies the existence of boyfoe. That is a service I am happy to provide."

stuck roost
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In my headcanon wol brutally murders Zenos and finally accepts him for what he is aka a friend

gaunt star
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i wonder how the fella is doing

robust quest
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I too brutally murder my friends

glossy hemlock
gaunt star
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he will never die

silk cape
glossy hemlock
gleaming rampart
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Emet tempering at least explains why he was all "The final days of Amaurot will be your judgement" only to change his mind and attack you afterwards as "Your performance was underwhelming"

gaunt star
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I REFUSE to believe that

glossy hemlock
stuck roost
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I don't imagine wol not turning into psycho after all the shit they see

smoky ingot
glossy hemlock
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He’s DEAD FOREVER AND I HATE HIM ShibePray 1f_sparkles2

gaunt star
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I too despise him, but only hope he's still alive so that I can kick his ass for a 3rd time

smoky ingot
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Not that that’s a necessarily bad thing

glossy hemlock
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Zenos won’t come back they don’t know what to do with him he’s the most one dimensional character ever.

granite nimbus
eternal storm
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Zero said hes dead, the devs said hes dead, even we, the wol, said hes dead

iron birch
stuck roost
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They had to kill Zenos cuz if Zenos joins wol hand, the group would be too op

silk cape
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he's dead

chilly bluff
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I do wonder if she ate him before she went home

gleaming rampart
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Zenos may be dead but I don't think it was clear that his soul was destroyed so depending on how long it would take his soul to traverse the universe to return...

granite nimbus
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Probably not.

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She dislikes eating people in general.

robust quest
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You just gotta love a man with conviction.

granite nimbus
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Nevermind a soul as resilient and determined as Zenos.

eternal storm
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Zenos has one purpose and he fulfilled it

gleaming rampart
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I think he's given up and his soul is still in his dead body as it drifts at the edge of the universe

eternal storm
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Hes gone

silk cape
robust quest
eternal storm
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The most they will do if they want him back is use his body, but otherwise he, as a character, is done

torpid yoke
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it was probably a lie

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to cope

iron birch
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nah

robust quest
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Even if I love him, yeah he should stay a corpse

iron birch
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loporitos half confirm it

stuck roost
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Emet is like at this point for all he done might as well see it to the end

glossy hemlock
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I’m pretty sure he was tempered

winged lagoon
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A corpse should be left well alone

iron birch
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it isn't just the full temper treatment

stuck roost
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He was

glossy hemlock
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Maybe not as badly as some but like he can’t resist it

stuck roost
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But like the deeds he did

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It was too late to turn back

smoky ingot
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It is the full temper treatment

glossy hemlock
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He’s just coherent enough to know he’s tempered

smoky ingot
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^

iron birch
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bring out the tempered steak image

torpid yoke
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Mans lies to himself all the time

smoky ingot
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Zodiark = big
Big = affects people’s aether

torpid yoke
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not out of the question that he just tells himself that to help himself get over it

gleaming rampart
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Yeah the tempered nature just means no matter what you did he'd attack you eventually even if you tried everything to change his mind he's just going to move the goalposts

iron birch
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loporitos dialogue exist, so

torpid yoke
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Could have also just

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not been in the room

gaunt star
torpid yoke
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Also the loporitts convo kinda goes against it since it would do a little tug but not a tempering

smoky ingot
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Not the tug haha

torpid yoke
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Just a smol tug

smoky ingot
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English is the only language where that’s present

stuck roost
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Well they were quite literally preaching to zodiark as some god

smoky ingot
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Everything else just says he tempers

stuck roost
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So I guess that's gotta have some effect

smoky ingot
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Loporrits tend to exaggerate

robust quest
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I still find the thought process of the second Emet dies at the end of SHB he fully remembers everything and just goes "We fucked up, yikes." absolutely hilarious

torpid yoke
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Nah

torpid yoke
smoky ingot
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Yeah one sec

stuck roost
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Lopporits are themselves a bunny concepts of Hydaelyn, who's to they themselves are not tempered to help mankind

eternal storm
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Emet would still do what he did if he was still alive

gleaming rampart
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I have one piece of dissenting evidence to the Zodiark tempering thing. Lahabrea's dialogue to Elidibus and Dev comments that Lahabrea was apparently going rogue by the time of HW. Given that Lahabrea's aether was thinner it would mean he would be more suggestible to tempering than if he were as strong as Emet Selch but he isn't. So Lahabrea isn't tempered

eternal storm
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He said so himself

stuck roost
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Emet would kill anyway for his society to be back

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Zodi or no

granite nimbus
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Eh... Lahabrea was going off the rails because his body hopping made him go insane.

smoky ingot
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The tempering to Zodiark is more or less the will of the ancients anyway

granite nimbus
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Compare the calm, measured, but still arrogant Lahabrea in Pandaemonium to the cackling lunatic you see in the present.

smoky ingot
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Which he agrees with

stuck roost
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Lahabread went psycho, emet went depressed and elid lost his purpose of life

smoky ingot
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but yeah, after he dies he still says his ideals are invincible, he just lost and so he’s throwing his hat in with us

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we proved his judgement of us wrong

stuck roost
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How to win argument, just beat the shit out of each other : anime logic at its finest

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But I guess if anything that's how humans themselves are in general

viscid monolith
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That's how animals are

oak pike
#

That’s how yakuza games work fight for ideals literally

stuck roost
#

It's how most major events in real life history worked out as well

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By beating the shit out of each other

viscid monolith
#

Imagine doing that in real life

glossy hemlock
#

Hitting your shin against someone else’s shin?

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Would hurt

viscid monolith
#

Both of you shatter your shins against each other and decide to reschedule your final battle

torpid yoke
#

it does hurt

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Immensely

stuck roost
#

Just train in Muay Thai

oak pike
#

I don’t think you can generate enough force to shatter your shins like that

stuck roost
#

You can

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Actually

glossy hemlock
oak pike
#

Jumping mid air?

stuck roost
#

Not shatter

#

Bit definitely break

glossy hemlock
#

Fracture

glossy hemlock
#

Even just walking creates a surprising amount of force

stuck roost
#

Altho there's a mutation where your bones can be dense enough to withstand a car ramming in to you

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But like that's pretty rare

oak pike
#

Never really thought about it

#

I’m use to taking hits

#

Football and soccer

glossy hemlock
#

You also have protective gear while you play sports (hopefully)

oak pike
#

Soccer just shin guards, football think shin guards was optional

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At least when I played

stuck roost
#

Don't get hit in the head is all

#

Little injury to brain adds up over time

glossy hemlock
#

As football players have proven

oak pike
#

I remember being kicked in the teeth when I was a goalie

stuck roost
#

Like why boxer like mike Tyson speaks all gibberish now when he tries to speak and salivates extensively

silk cape
#

Shin guards for soccer makes sense because the bulk of the game's action involves feet. While in football, the bulk of the action centers on tackles and takedowns, thus necessitating more protective gear.

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Which is notably not ENOUGH protective gear, so, you know, fuck football

oak pike
#

Football is a barbaric sport Ngl no amount of protective gear help

stuck roost
#

Well it is what it is

oak pike
#

But damn it does feel fun to sack someone

glossy hemlock
#

It’s fun to watch though

stuck roost
#

Barbarism is fun to watch but not fun to do

glossy hemlock
#

Right lmao

oak pike
#

Football fun to play

stuck roost
#

Martial arts in general are good including any physically taxing sport

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Helps make your brain release endorphins

oak pike
#

I only done Brazilian jujitsu for a bit

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Haven’t sense fear until the trainer who had nearly a foot in height on me used me as a example for the class

stuck roost
#

I wanted to learn kick boxing but my ligament got torn so I can't really do much atm

oak pike
#

My family rarely get bad injuries from sports only time I broke or dislocated something is when I fell off my bed

gaunt star
#

I've listened to them enough

granite nimbus
#

That makes sense.

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I find On High so soothing and enjoyable to listen to.

gaunt star
#

I'll never get tired of the SHB night time zone themes

iron birch
#

I'm prob weird, but I'm indifferent to most songs in ffxiv

#

especially themes for zones

granite nimbus
#

Different strokes for different folks.

gaunt star
#

The only song I don't really like is Zurvan's theme

#

Feels kinda....generic I guess?

brisk quail
#

Okay but.

glossy hemlock
#

I love SHB BGM but SB trial and dungeon music is so good

gaunt star
#

Susano having the best theme prayge

oak pike
#

The burn still my favorite dungeon

glossy hemlock
#

I love Tsukiyomi’s phase change music

gaunt star
#

Seiryu sounds like Mario Kart so it's instantly in my top 5

glossy hemlock
#

During the specters part

brisk quail
#

Many songs are good but it doesn't mean listening to them for the 1600th time is good

winged lagoon
#

The first 15 seconds of Wayward Daughter

brisk quail
#

A good song is a good song. But very little songs, to me hold up on the 100th play

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Exceptions are Leviathan themes

#

Both feel fun to listen to every time

gaunt star
#

The exception are themes for Shiva

brisk quail
#

That too

glossy hemlock
#

The only reason I can stand Unreal this patch is Fiend

brisk quail
#

Also Levi phase 2 with female vocals

glossy hemlock
#

I pray Sophia will be better in PF

brisk quail
#

🥵

glossy hemlock
#

I don’t remember her having a lot of mechanics that if one person fails you can wipe half the team

glossy hemlock
#

Fuck speaking of I better get on the event farming

gaunt star
#

Shiva's ARR theme sounds like something I'd hear on Nickelodeon

brisk quail
#

Female vocals only goes super hard on the second verse

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First one is okayish. Kinda too high pitchwise

winged lagoon
#

Ramuh too

torpid yoke
#

Probably why I don't remember it

#

Nice theme

nova brook
#

hey guys,
is there a maximum cap for crit or consti in pve?

oak pike
#

Technically that cap is the max amount you get in the patch

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But for the stat itself nah not really you need to get really high to cap it out higher than what’s available

nova brook
#

ah oke, thx 🙂

torpid yoke
#

Iirc there's an point where it has diminishing returns

brisk quail
#

I mean it'd make sense

#

And anyways. The numbers will always chamge with every major expac

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Cuz I really doubt they wanna go the path of warframe where's there's tiers of crit and 100% crit chance isn't the end

#

They probably got some numbers internally that they try to hit with crit.

granite nimbus
#

Warframe damage is nutty man.

#

There's a gun that does 2,000% damage if it doesn't crit half the time.

#

These shots can inflict slash procs, which deal armor-piercing damage directly to enemy health (but doesn't bypass energy shields).

#

This damage can also be increased by up to 350% with Viral procs.

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I really, really can't see FFXIV going that route.

torpid yoke
pastel venture
#

thats cool but have you ever noticed how pretty venat is

torpid yoke
#

I'm for wow style masteries

crystal arrow
#

warframe crit tiers could work in theory

#

but

torpid yoke
crystal arrow
#

idk because then people would just dump all in on crit

pine epoch
#

Since there is a yukata coming from tataru quest 6.3

I bet it means she made it which if she did this is the best looking piece of glam tataru has ever made

crystal arrow
#

if it's dramatically different for fem wols i will go apeshit

#

this will be my gamer moment

pine epoch
#

I'll be right there with you

#

All that needs to be different is have the bandages cover the boobs

crystal arrow
#

yeah

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binder

#

this pleases my nb desires

somber storm
#

Boob wrap

brisk quail
#

Like they probably have an agenda/plan to keep it around 40% and never let it go above 70%

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But not go the path of warframe because as numbers climb due to expacs, the numbers for the crit chance will always be tuned down

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Instead of going up forever and hitting 100%+ where warframe delves into tiers of crits

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Yellow orange and reds

tawny relic
keen osprey
pine epoch
#

no new dev blog

keen osprey
#

Oooooh

#

Is there an image of said Yukata?

pine epoch
keen osprey
#

Oh my lord

#

Any pictures of the female version?

pine epoch
#

nope

#

Just that one

keen osprey
#

Dang

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Thanks

pine epoch
#

why me and Sen talked about hopefully the female version isn't that different

#

and its just "Bandages covering boobs" or something like that

pastel venture
#

they're cowards if they just dont have a singular naked tiddy out

wary perch
#

Rating issue

torpid yoke
#

It's pixelated tiddy, it's fineeee

rain onyx
#

That one boob just goes missing

eternal storm
#

Pls be dyeable

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Pls

rain onyx
#

Honestly it looks great even if undyeable

#

But yes pls

torpid yoke
#

If tataru makes it it's gotta be

eternal storm
#

I hope you actually gotta work to get it

#

I dont wanna see everyone and their mothers have it

silk cape
eternal storm
#

No

stuck roost
#

I mean it's a dress that you will dump on glam dresser anyway

wind bough
#

It’s a reward from Tataru’s Grand Endeavour

silk cape
glossy hemlock
pine epoch
#

Its not something your going to work to get

wind bough
#

So yes everyone will have it

glossy hemlock
#

So it’s just gonna go in the glam dresser

pine epoch
#

You get it from doing tataru quest line

glossy hemlock
#

Isn’t it optional content

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So not evvvvverrrryone will have it

eternal storm
glossy hemlock
#

Just anyone who did the quest until that point

late aurora
#

People have done 4 lords

glossy hemlock
eternal storm
#

I just wanna work for it

late aurora
eternal storm
#

And not just

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Oh there you go for free hehexd

glossy hemlock
eternal storm
#

N O

glossy hemlock
eternal storm
#

Ly tho

late aurora
#

Well just like the last Tataru quest, it requires an optional questline done

eternal storm
late aurora
#

So yeah you had to do something to get it

glossy hemlock
#

Moonlight aethersand is insanely expensive right now and it’s annoying me DrunkPensive

eternal storm
#

Okay make it like the ameliance glam then

silk cape
#

I actually need to finish Four Lords. Still got Suzaku and Seiryu to wrap up

glossy hemlock
#

True you already did what you needed to do to get the glam Zeke

#

So you did have to do something it’s just completed already

pine epoch
#

Ameliance doesn't have a unique glam its a seasonal event item

#

so 5 bucks on mogstation

glossy hemlock
eternal storm
glossy hemlock
#

I wonder what we’ll get from the new custom delivery

pine epoch
#

No then I don't know what you meant

eternal storm
#

Yeah i was talking about the custom deliveries glam

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Aka the ameliance custom delivery

pine epoch
#

Oh that.

eternal storm
#

Aye

pine epoch
#

No this is completely different

eternal storm
#

I hope the new glam is gonna be locked like that

pine epoch
#

It wont

#

it is locked behind several quest

glossy hemlock
#

Zeke we already know how to get it 😭

pine epoch
#

but locked behind literally going to Point A to point B

glossy hemlock
#

You just have to do the quests

eternal storm
#

Boring

pine epoch
#

It is the reward from Tataru Grand Endeavor 6.3

eternal storm
glossy hemlock
#

Go do an ultimate then stinky

pine epoch
#

if you haven't been doing Tatarus quest you have to do them from 6.1

#

6.2 requires shadows of mhach to be completed

eternal storm
#

Zzzzz

silk cape
#

... this exchange makes me irrationally angry. I really don't understand why.

glossy hemlock
tawny relic
eternal storm
#

Time to skip cs again for a few mins

glossy hemlock
pine epoch
#

No skipping cutscenes in this business

eternal storm
#

Too bad

tawny relic
#

Sir these are 24-mans

#

You're not skipping your way through the entire thing

pine epoch
#

your helping Tataru become the leading capitalist of the world and you'll like it

glossy hemlock
eternal storm
#

I skipped all of manderville

silk cape
eternal storm
#

Bless

eternal storm
#

Watch boring cutscene (ultimate)

crystal arrow
#

this is an extension of lore spoilers turf

glossy hemlock
tawny relic
#

Yeah

#

Which requires him to do Mhach

#

Which he apparently hasn't

glossy hemlock
#

No this one requires Four Lords

#

Wait you haven’t don’t Mahch?

wind bough
#

Well then you got your wish

late aurora
#

How dare they make us do content /s

wind bough
#

The glam is locked behind doing work

tawny relic
#

I don't think he's done any of the Tataru quests so far

glossy hemlock
#

And good luck getting queues for it tbh

pine epoch
glossy hemlock
#

Especially so close to patch day

tawny relic
pine epoch
#

oh it is

tawny relic
#

Yeah

glossy hemlock
#

Damn smh

pine epoch
#

wait. I just read the chat description. This isn't the same channel I thought it was

tawny relic
#

Mhach raids are the moogle tome raids

crystal arrow
#

xel...

eternal storm
glossy hemlock
pine epoch
#

Hopefully

glossy hemlock
#

So we can post datamine

pine epoch
#

Discussion for a new major patch or live letter. This includes and isn't limited to spoilers surrounding MSQ, side content, and datamining. Use this channel at your own risk.

This channel is temporarily available during and for ~1 week after a major patch maintenance or around a topical live letter.

If you share information pertaining to datamined content, you do so entirely at your own risk, as it is a violation of the FFXIV User Agreement (Section 2.5 and 2.6, https://sqex.to/ffxiv_ua_na).

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The channel description

silk cape
#

Anyone have a different subject we can focus on rather that Zeke being bored by story in a game that constrains feature access behind story progress?

eternal storm
#

No

late aurora
#

Doll lady

tawny relic
#

Anyways go do the trial series where you fight a bunch of animals' humansonas rooNya

eternal storm
#

There other channels for th-

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Doll lady is hot.

late aurora
glossy hemlock
#

IT REALLY IS

crystal arrow
#

how ugly is cagnazzo gonna be

glossy hemlock
tawny relic
pine epoch
tawny relic
glossy hemlock
pine epoch
#

with ugly human face

#

And Blue

tawny relic
#

Blue Genbu

glossy hemlock
pine epoch
#

cant forget hes Blue

tawny relic
pine epoch
#

He also walks on all 4s

crystal arrow
#

i wonder if they may change that

#

is there a uh

#

berserk turtle apostle

glossy hemlock
eternal storm
#

Dont change it pls god SE

crystal arrow
#

hm there is but he's more whale-like

pine epoch
#

Not that I know of Sen

crystal arrow
#

"berserk turtle apostle" brings up this guy, borkoff

eternal storm
#

Look at him go

robust quest
#

He's really doing it

eternal storm
#

Why is that the black beast thing from zelda skyward sword

#

Lmao

#

Sure looks like it anyways

robust quest
#

Don't you compare that thing to the abomination, that thing can stay out of my memories.

crystal arrow
#

cant believe it..... zelda invented apostles

pine epoch
robust quest
# pine epoch

Hey homie, you can't just be posting pictures of me in the morning on discord without permission.

late aurora
#

Cagnazzo is not a friend to the children

crystal arrow
#

i just wonder how they'll spin him

#

i feel like if they kept him just like that it may be too much of a skeleton reuse

pine epoch
#

I mean what could they use for a skeleton?

late aurora
#

I just want him to be disguised at first

pine epoch
#

Frog?

crystal arrow
#

those big turtles

#

the dragon turtles

#

im blanking on their names

pine epoch
#

Adamantoise

#

They don't fit the design of Cagnazzo

#

Frog would probably be better

crystal arrow
#

maybe frog

pine epoch
#

Frog is also Omega

#

Oh wait dragon turtle

#

Shield Turtle

#

or something like that

crystal arrow
#

yeah

empty walrus
#

Can't wait to see how they'll use Cagnazzo's shapeshifting ability

pine epoch
#

Carapace Dragon

crystal arrow
#

or the verge dragon could fit maybe with heavy adjustments

late aurora
#

This hunk of junk

empty walrus
#

I hate that Fate

stuck roost
#

Just kite with pld stun

torpid yoke
#

It's surprising pld still has that stun

#

They're usually "no fun allowed" when it comes to stuff like that

stuck roost
#

Most of the time you kinda forget it exist

#

Beside rare occasions

glossy hemlock
pine epoch
#

imagine if 6.4

#

If Tataru quest says "You need Return to Ivalice and Save the Queen completed."

pastel venture
#

riot PES_Knife

torpid yoke
#

They should do that

pine epoch
#

Tatarus campaign of capitalism expands to Bozja and Dalmasca

pastel venture
#

they shouldn't because bozja is hard to complete due to being dead pensivewobble

stuck roost
#

I can see ivalice but doubt doing bozja would become needed

pine epoch
#

not dead here

glossy hemlock
pastel venture
#

or at least take significantly more time and effort than an alliance raid

glossy hemlock
pine epoch
#

its technically 2 alliance raids

pastel venture
#

yeah but you also need to rank up and stuff

glossy hemlock
#

Even after reset there’s like maybe five people doing it

#

Max

stuck roost
#

Usually it's somewhat lively in chaos

pine epoch
#

What DC you on?

glossy hemlock
#

Elemental Kujata

pine epoch
#

wow

eternal storm
#

Oh i used to be in elemental

#

Tonberry tho

#

Nice ppl

torpid yoke
#

Can't believe we got 2 alliance raids in shb

glossy hemlock
#

Tonberry and Kujata have the most ENG speakers

pine epoch
#

over here on Aether NA

#

we have 45 people in Zadnor

glossy hemlock
#

Yeah here I was struggling so much I stopped doing it because critical engagements were hard to spawn because of the lack of people

pine epoch
#

14 in Southern Front.

#

That number sometimes get boosted

glossy hemlock
#

Clearing the CE weren’t so bad because people would spawn in just for those but then they’d leave after it was done

pine epoch
#

You'd need to pretty much find your regional Bozja community

#

cause they most likely will be on playing at specific times

#

the hardest part to get through will be DR

#

given its a 24 man raid.... Without a DF

#

and if you que in with randoms

#

your probably going to get 3 people at max

#

so make like a PF of like 8 people

#

and you'll be comfy

#

as DR is doable with 8

stuck roost
#

The rng system for the spawn is weird

torpid yoke
#

CE's aren't rng

stuck roost
#

Castrum is

#

And you do need that to progress in bozja storyline as well

torpid yoke
#

Castrum is a timer

wind bough
#

Castrum isn’t very rng, spawns are predictable

stuck roost
#

Still don't make it better

wind bough
#

Sure it does?

#

A predictable timer is naturally better than depending on RNG

glossy hemlock
wind bough
#

And there are active Bozja communities out there to do runs

stuck roost
#

I mean why make it a time gated content anyway

#

Then again it's abandoned now so not like it will see any change

glossy hemlock
#

Same reason special FATEs and hunt marks have spawn timers

torpid yoke
pallid girder
#

some comments on the new yukata seem to wish there was an option to not have the tattoos on the body

wind bough
#

Same as ocean fishing

pallid girder
#

which is understandable

wind bough
#

If it was accessible any time it would be more dead

glossy hemlock
#

Ocean fishing would be so OP if it were always up lol

wind bough
#

If it’s only sometimes then all the hopeful clearers gets funneled into the same time slot

glossy hemlock
#

They’d have to nerf the EXP

stuck roost
#

I mean well it's to kinda make it more exciting when you get to do it I guess

glossy hemlock
pallid girder
glossy hemlock
#

I don’t use that aesthetic for glams anyways so I’m not pressed it’ll just rot in my glamour dresser lol

#

Just sucks people who like the design but not the tattoos will have to mod their stuff to use it

bright gazelle
#

The purpose of the Tataru quests is to get people to unlock optional things but since 6.3 is already a Stormblood thing, I'd bet 6.4 Tataru will make people do either Eden or the Werlyt trials.

tired kettle
#

not sure how tataru would make us do eden

bright gazelle
#

"Thancred has an adopted daughter? And she has a girlfriend? Why am I only hearing about this now? Take this letter to her"

#

I'm sure they could come up with something.

pallid girder
#

i thought trade between the sauce and the first is still miles away hahah

tired kettle
#

you are the vehicle of trade between the source and the first

late aurora
#

Tataru steals a mech

bright gazelle
#

Anything the WoL can pocket can go

pallid girder
#

imagine doing business deal with Gaius and Allie for Tataru 6.4

tired kettle
#

sounds inefficient from a business perspective

bright gazelle
#

Werlyt is probably more likely though

tired kettle
#

i'm thinking it'll be ivalice and then werlyt

pallid girder
#

good thing im done with the ivalice raids already.

pallid girder
bright gazelle
#

that's a much bigger time investment than a raid or trial series

pallid girder
pine epoch
#

its not to much longer than Ivalice raids

#

technically the longest part is the rank system... But you can hash those out both in a day if you have the time.

pallid girder
#

a lot of people still do bozja these days, although at off peak hours it will be a bit harder.

bright gazelle
#

I never finished Bozja. If they make it mandatory for Tataru I will. Otherwise nope

pallid girder
#

Gaius gonna be like "Hrrrngh...I didnt want to do this, but only because my daughter insisted I do" again

#

The Black Wolf, everybodeh!

pine epoch
#

Its a fun quest

#

and has great raids in it

pallid girder
#

plays The Witch From Mercury during G-Warrior scene

glossy hemlock
glossy hemlock
pallid girder
#

dun dun dun DUN DUN DUNNN

#

where are our g-bits?

glossy hemlock
winged lagoon
glossy hemlock
#

I think it would be more likely for her and French guy to date they’re closer in age

eternal storm
#

Is me

#

Im french guy

glossy hemlock
#

But also like they don’t ever have anyone dating tbh

gaunt star
#

The second an NPC dates or gets married in fiction their partner is destined to die

#

Tis the rules

#

Have to keep em single

#

and fresh

glossy hemlock
#

For fear of Emet Stans getting mad that the name didn’t match their OC

gaunt star
#

Why we'll never learn of Azem's Greek name

#

It'll kill all the Persephone shippers

glossy hemlock
#

Like

#

Ugh idk I can’t remember it it’s just SOOO French

stark marsh
#

Is it elf guy

glossy hemlock
#

It’s like Ve sometbing

#

Yeah

stark marsh
#

Tbf he is an elf

#

Elves are french in FFXIV

glossy hemlock
#

Yeah unapologetically

#

At least Severa sounds like Severe so it’s easy to remember

#

She was also somehow more memorable than him even though she was barely a character

stark marsh
#

I remember starting Heavensward and realizing I've been pronouncing Haurchefant wrong the whole time

#

I also pronounced Alphinaud wrong for like the entirety of A Realm Reborn

stark marsh
#

That's how I remember him

chilly bluff
#

Valdeaulin btw

stark marsh
#

Ah

wind bough
#

Valdeaulin

glossy hemlock
#

“I’m totally gonna kill u Gaius for real definitely gonna do it”

#

Aggressively French

brisk quail
#

"I'd totally do it but like he's helping us and it'd get blood on my clothes"

#

"And he's kinda helpful so he can live for now, he's definitely dying after though"

torpid yoke
#

Gaius has cool clothes

glossy hemlock
#

I like his clothes I wanna wear his cloak

torpid yoke
#

So we can't kill him till we get it

glossy hemlock
#

I like his scarf

gaunt star
#

I like what's under the clothes NODDERS

brisk quail
#

WoL: "Clothes, now"

glossy hemlock
smoky ingot
#

hey since we’re not getting new exploration in EW how bout we just add to bozja

#

Saves assets :p

gaunt star
brisk quail
gaunt star
#

WoL takes their schizophrenia meds and the scions start to fade away and they wake up shit faced in Balmung

stark marsh
brisk quail
gaunt star
brisk quail
#

Alpinaud and Alisaie ask if you're okay and they fade away into a red elixir bottle and blue cup.
You turn to Yshtola and it's a fresh zu corpse hanging from a recent hunt.
You look to Urianger for help deciphering this madness but he's naught but a coat on a coat rack. You turn to thancred and... he's not there either, just a box full of soon to be sold supplies, swords and guns... and not even a gunsword. Was... was it all a dream?

tawny relic
winged lagoon
pallid girder
somber storm
#

Stealer of Pants

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Waiting for a mod that replaces the FF14 quest accept jingle to the Yakuza one

oak pike
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Imagine every game has the yakuza character intro

granite nimbus
leaden dune
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Good evening friends, can anyone tell me what additional questlines I need to complete before starting the Tataru one?

chilly bluff
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So far the only requirements we know of are Shadow of Mhach, the HW alliance raid series, and Four Lords, SB trial series.

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But it sounds like they're going to tie it to just about everything by the end

leaden dune
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Okay thank you very much! I will strive to complete those before the launch of patch. The potential glamour we will be getting looks very nice

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Conveniently Shadow of Mhach and Four Lords are the only side raids I have yet to do

pallid girder
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Mhach will be a quickie

next gulch
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Yeah do it while Moogle Tome is still active

teal salmon
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saw an interesting theory-thing

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saying Menphina's eyes look cloudy because of "blind love"

regal lantern
tardy elm
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Should we be hording Causality tomes for 6.3? Time it to have max 2000?

gilded wigeon
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Not particularly

pine epoch
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if your talking about weekly tomes

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we are not getting a new tomestone in 6.3

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new tomestones are every even patch

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with 6.3 you'll be able to upgrade Tomestone gear without needing to do 8 man raids thx to the 24 man.

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You'll need the upgrade coin from both Aglaia and Euphorsyne to upgrade your armor

iron birch
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Didn't you need tomes for rinascita gear upgrades too

pine epoch
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the Regular tomes

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the non capped ones

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You use those to buy the augment stuff

keen veldt
pine epoch
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I find it funny eureka orthos boss battle bgm is calamity unbound

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And not tumbling down

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Even tho orthos is underneath the CT

civic marsh
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Are the tribal quests 6.3 or 6.35?

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And how many weeks after .3 is .35 (going by general feeling)?

winged lagoon
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.35

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And 6-8 usually

torn igloo
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most likely 8 with the new patch cycle

frigid isle
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Isnt that like over 2 months

pulsar current
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Yes

iron birch
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tataru is 6.3 and hildi/loporitos 6.35, ye?

pulsar current
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Ye

strange wing
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Wait, is the deep dungeon at 6.3?

glossy hemlock
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6.35

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I think

strange wing
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Damn

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I really want something new to grind

glossy hemlock
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Mounts

strange wing
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I might prog the ultimate just for something to do

glossy hemlock
teal salmon
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I might actually do Omega ult

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If I can clear P8S

strange wing
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Two weeks should be enough to clear P8S

teal salmon
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I’ve only made it as far as Purg in P7S

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And that was… week 7