#retired-patch-6-3-discussion
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We know the Unreal for 6.3 will be Sophia, so reasonable to bet that 6.4 it'll be Zurvan, but will they do another in 6.5?
Don’t see why they wouldn’t. They had one last time lol
Skipped 6.0 to let people get used to new job changes
Since it's a new category of content that only started up partway through ShB we don't have a complete pattern for its schedule yet.
Not until 6.38 likely.
Four Lords was the Trial series in SB, so based on that, the next Unreal after the Warring Triad would be Byakko, right? Though I suppose it could be Shinryu.
Imagine it’s just ducking like ifirt again lol
They could still go back and do Rav or Bis afterward.
The first three Unreals were out of order completely
True.
I'd actually farm it then lul
More like UNWHALE
But yes as you stated earlier, it's too early to say they're going to follow a pattern. Zurvan is probably after Sophia, sure. Beyond that we can't say.
And yeah, I meant to shout out that this is a possibility that I hadn't considered.
it'd be cool if this means we finally get primal weapons
The Relic macguffin in this first section was "Manderite" right?
Manderium
Manderium. Right then.
I mean, this shit writes itself:
Godbert: An opportunity presents itself! Allagan relics from a certain time period appear to have been rich in Manderium. And I've just financed an expedition by the Sons of St. Coinach into a recently-discovered Allagan ruin in Mor Dhona. Sally forth, my friend!
Rammbroes: I don't quite understand why Lord Godbert is so interested in these junk fragments within this dig, but far be it from me to deny our benefactor when we're otherwise given free reign over whatever else we discover.
Rammbroes: Of course the only problem is that this ruin's layout seems to shift imperceptibly every time someone enters. I've not lost any researchers yet but I'd appreciate a reliable adventurer doing some work to unravel the mystery of the place and bring back anything of interest.
EUREKA ORTHOS UNLOCKED!!
Later...
Gerolt: The bloody hells is this shite pig iron you've brought me?
Godbert: So it would seem to the untrained eye, Master Godbert, but in the hands of a Manderville man...
Gerolt: Another bloody shirtless dance from the man? Fine, have it your way.
Godbert: does something wildly untoward with the Orthosian potsherds
Gerolt: ... Can hardly fathom it meself but I've plum run out of exclamations for the madness this man demonstrates.
WoL: shrugs
i wonder if we'll get more glowy weapons from ShB down the line
like the variants from sosex
Also, I assume glowy Hydaelyn weapons will be released late? Like 6.4, 6.5?
Of course we will get more crafted trial weapons
wich one is the next one is the question
Probably ruby or SoS
I hope they skip to SoS because the base weapons already look nice
Maybe SoS will get skipped for 2 expansions before getting a glow, like Susano and Zurvan

Still stocking up
The existing Ultimates are
Bahamut
Ultima Weapon
Alexander
Dragonsong
if they keep the pattern, next up is omega ultimate
As you can see the pattern has been Raid>Trial>Raid>Trial
Yoshida has gone on record that they don't want Ultimates to fall into a pattern so I'm kind of expecting this one to be a big shakeup
SB story ultimate feels a bit disjointed and hard to tell
so i feel like that would be skipped, yeah
Four Lords is next Tataru, so probs why JP is saying to do them
I would LOVE a Kefka ultimate with the warring triad included
so it's like going up the tower
Give us Crystal Tower or Shadows of Mhach Ultimate, you cowards.
yeah but what would tsukuyomi tie to for other bosses
all the ultimates have been a gauntlet, so an ultimate that's just one boss sounds very boring
Like Yoshi-P said, don't want patterns
If being a gauntlet is a pattern, then it's something we need to think about

They've said that the initial concept for Ultimate was just Titan by himself lol
As a debuff. Different stacks give different ms worth of delay
But yes realistically we're looking at Omega Ultimate as the best contender
I think a Four Lords or Warring Triad ultimate are good options too, if they keep to them being gauntlets
Maybe we can finally fight that horse demon thing the Four Lords were keeping sealed
the one that's totally not just kirin but big and mad
Indeed
I'd say the pattern is "Raid and then the .3 trial"
But Ultima Weapon isn't a .3 Trial

I think better wording would be story trial instead of .3 trial
Well no because there can be multiple of those
a four lords ultimate where you fight the 4th lord would be chefs kiss imo
UWU was all four initial trials so that nomenclature makes sense
I mean, we did fight all 4
Genbu was just a dungeon boss
the big horse, yeah
Koryu yeah
I think a dedicated WT ultimate would be cool but I would accept a phase in Omega where Kefka summons them
just something that puts Kefka with WT would be cool, even if its limited to 1 phase in an ultimate
Omega says "fuck you" and summons the entire raid tier against you
sliding around the platform while dealing with other mechanics
it's a tournament arc, but all the entries are against you
the real reason I want WT ultimate in some capacity is just because its always funny to have the Sophia tilting platforms
Somehow Alte Roite is still a snooze of a phase because SE forgot to give him anything new. /s
Omega vs Shinryu would also be acceptable to me if only for the FFV nostalgia bait
Im just excited to watch the race
hoping I finish the EX trial in time so I can dedicate my time to watching
no interest in playing because I hate pf in savage enough as is 
I think ultimate would give me an actual aneurysm
Reminder DSR is the only ultimate to ever have a check point
Every other one you all wipe? Back to zero.
It's a mechanic/theme of the fate
Probably so people don't try to waste time saving Haurchefant in the first phase
the checkpoint tells you "yeah he's supposed to die"
so more to do with the specifics of that particular ultimate than a general indication of a change in design philosophy
most likely, yeah
makes sense
Watch as people complain no check point this time
I knew Ultimate was out of my reach when I looked up a guide for UWU and was barely able to retain Garuda, the 'joke' phase

my group stalled at the tail-end of Nael for UCOB
though that was more due to scheduling issues leaving us with basically only 1-2 days a week of prog
oh yeah that sounds miserable for progging an ultimate
ultimate weapons look super ugly for me tbh lol
and I like to keep weapons stylistically cohesive with the rest of my glam
so even if I could clear an ultimate like its nothing I wouldnt use them for anything
at least the DSR ones are just... visual noise
what were they cooking tbh
And that's all the weapon is- A weapon with stats POSSIBLY better than whatever your current job is, same item level as Savage's.
I think they use the exact same stats as the savage weapon, but with a 3rd materia slot
so in pretty much all cases, it is better
unless your job's BiS is supremely cursed and uses augmented tome instead, which has only happened like a handful of times since the game came out
So the Yu Yu Hakusho Dark Tournament?
I believe that's called a battle Royale
battle royale implies everyone is against each other
It's orange, what happens when something is based in the aether of Nidhogg's red and Hraevelgr's yellow eyes.
Along with the blazing insignia of the Halonic Church.
when is the new ultimate being released?
6.31
Ultimates usually come 2 weeks after the main patch launch they're part of, so either the 17th or 24th of January.
With my internet connection And poor memory I will never do a ultimate. I’ll stick grinding relics
hi guys, is it possible to manually auto demolish my private house in patch 6.3?
pretty sure you can just already get rid of it
You can but why? Iirc if you donthat and want to get a new house you will subject to the housing lot lottery
Did they change how relocating works?
for a while tho
like since the lottery
you can demolish manually (for peep want transfer) or auto demolish (peep will get gil bacc)
Yeah relocation no longer bypasses the timer or the lottery in this case. Their chances are the same as anyone else’s.
the land bidding timeframe is still the same, demo or not
Ty
Awww i thought the coin was weekly
Yeah pretty much
I didn't care too much for the Aglaia gear look wise so I only got like two pieces before 6.2 dropped 
A lot of the chest pieces there look great with right dyes. 
Especially when the trim parts become silvery with dyes from the pure gold default look.
regarding the 6.3 housing, I cant find any information regarding if there will be FC housing or not.
anyone has any info or past experiences?
@ me
They haven't specified yet but it's likely that it'll be a split. That said, they'll make a post on lodestone with details before patch hits.
also
for the record
auto demo is back in 6.3
so there will likely be more openings
Is there always a new dungeon every patch or just odd ones?
Every major patch
Expert roulette always gets updated, and there's also always a new Trial
No...I remember getting two dungeons
There has never been a major patch without a dungeon. They’re just main quests now. Where as there were a few patches in the past in which they were optional.
That I agree
Are we not getting the optional trials for ew?
hard to say, since it seems they're tying them to the story for this expansion
we might get an optional one or two from other content, like hildibrand
I mean the AR also seems super tied to the story but it’s still optional
4 lords came out 4.2, ruby came out 5.2, but i guess still can come out later
Archfiends do have a bit of the previous optional trial vibe tho
They do tbh
4 lords had glowy weapons, ruby/emerald/diamond series didnt
ew is more modeling the arr style, with patch trials
we probably wont get a whole series
but a trial or two thrown in as extra maybe
i'd guess a trial at the end of myths or hildibrand
or both
glowy weapons don't come out with their trial and don't really have a concrete order for how they come out
well
order is a bit more concrete now
but
still we could get endsex glows next patch for all we know
Please glowy Hydaelyn 
5.5
and then assuming chronological order we'd get ruby crafted next right
Yes
As for the optional Trial Series, we'd have gotten it already as the first one would've come out in 6.1
i just hope uh
whatever the trial is this next patch
be it cagnazzo or rubicante
is interesting
i wonder if caganazzo will impersonate someone like he did in FF4, where he killed the King of Baron and took his place
i dont think cagnazzo is the dungeon boss
because it seems to be purely in the source
and the fiends look to be too big to get through
Rubicante better heal the party to full at one point in his fight
x.1 patches never had the trial series trial
At end of 6.2 it does seem Cag and Rubi are teaming up for something, with Rubicante being the one to put the idea forward and Cagnazzo all for the fight.
it's only the extreme trial of the trial that capped off the story
x.2 is when they start the trial storyline
I hope neither of them are a solo trial
a cagnazzo/rubicante duo trial would be cool
Even then Wynne, 6.2, still nothing
i dont think we have a duo trial that's msq required
Trial was MSQ
not really counting moggle mog
Leviathan by technicality
His tail??? 😭
Otherwise no, we've never had two separate individuals
I liked how they did it with the Magus sisters
give me the e6 experience
If we had a trial like that would be interesting
Like Ornstein and smough kill one first and power the other maybe
Considering how Voidsent work, could happen
Yeah lol
But yes, back to my theory
Garlemald has the Elban Rime
In FF 4 there's a character named Edge, the ninja and prince of, the Kingdom of Elban
Rubicante had gone to Elban to destroy it, we fight him there
Funny enough the Tower of Babil which is itself a FF 4 reference, had Lugae who had turned Edge's parents into monsters
Tho they've used Lugae in Hildy quests so not sure if he'll be used in MSQ
man, the cutscene after that fight was hearbreaking.
Indeed
But yes, going purely by the clues we've been given, chances are strongly leaning towards Rubicante
God I hope they might his fight a whole ass meme like he is on FFIV
From Famitsu. Aaaaaah.
Elf man with his bnuuy child
Urianger 
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
sleepingway 
Skrunkle...
cant believe urianger killed sleepingway smh
It had to be done
nooooo 
is 7.0 going to be uriangers villain arc?
but like for real this time?
But urianger is my one true love 
Gaius is my one true love.
But Urianger is my favourite Scion
I’d hold hands with him
Hand holding 
Puddingway is the superior loporitt anyway
I also want to eat pudding tbh
the writers projecting onto some poor moon rabbit
Should have been mochiway
I feel like it doesn’t translate as well
Pudding is still a thing for everywhere else
Even if it’s slightly different in execution
oh huh it is just puddingway in jp too
leaked loporrit tribal music
Aaaaaaaaaaa
AAAAAA
giga pudding~!
y'know, why dont they have Puddingway visit Zhloe yet
the latter also eats tons of week old pineapple pudding that should still be safe to consume
True, they need to meet
pudding should be able to last a week or so in the fridge...right?
Depends on when you made it
And if store bought
Made by hand it lasts for 1 week since creation in the fridge
If packaged it depends, and then there's dry pudding
Which is the mix which can lasts past its due by date
the same smile is like copy pasted several times across this artwork its unsettling
Since this is technically 6.3 related and idk were else to ask uh what do u guys think will be the ilevel requirement for the new alliance raid :0
around 595 i think
since difference between lv80 alliance raids ilvl requirement was 30 ilvl and Aglaia req is 565
If 595 you can achive that ilvl easily
I rmb Aglaia ilv is pretty low, drop 590 stuff which is coolio
I see I see should be enough then since I asked for my alt jobs since my main as 100% enough with 620
A-raid should be 595 with 620 gear
Trial should be 595 as well.
EX 610 with a 625 Wep
Standard dungeon pattern already got thrown out the window so
(Patch dungeon pattern has been +20/+10/+20/+10/+20, this one goes +20/+15 so far)
i see thank u very much
i wonder if 6.35 relic step will be glowy of first step already
or just augmented stage like ShB
Iirc 5.35 introduced both the augmented and the recollection steps
So in the end there was a glowy relic on patch 5.35
Hello there people - I need somebody to help me get the game to work. Everything is fine, until the patching version. IS there an expert who could help with this? please! 🙂
#questions-and-help or #952326072542847016 would be the right spot
since this is a channel for the upcoming patch 
this is the crossover i desperately want
Is there a link to what all comes in the 6.3 update?
should be in the most recent live letter
#translations-and-liveletters for a text reading
or the live letter on youtube
for the vid
Oh ok Ty
its not an us thing, its just what ffxiv calls thier patch updates
Wondering when lvl cap goes from 90 to 100 like subs are at 100
subs' levelling is very different from ours XD and level caps for the vast majority of content only ever go up on expack drops
Summer 2024.
Any clue to when we get a fishing off hand weapon? Lol
It's already there
It's all you get
Spear is spear
What about DRG gig 
That just rips the fish apart
S T A R D I V E R
Where did the water go
so..... omega ultimate then? :3
Why would anyone think it wasn't omega
i wonder what the special effects will be for omega ulti weapons
some DNA like spirals?
im wondering how they make a form scarier than o12s
o12s is legit ultimate final boss level design
Coping for Warring Triad since Heavensward was when we first had non-MSQ trials
"The concept for the weapon strengthening this time would be to "be able to exchange for something by piling up the rewards gotten from various content naturally", so players don't need to worry too much"
hmm
does that mean for 2nd step they are splitting the mats needed across many
Light but as a currency
light?
all relics except shb have used some form of "light"
Oh I see
i suspect itll be like arr/hw light except more content applies to it and not just endwalker content
well, it will be good to get from a range of options!
No way they would make triad ultimate while having triad unreal at the same time,
"The flow of weapon upgrades and its final item level be the same as it was in the past"
So its gonna be like ShB steps
oh god the dreaded one time grind
shb honestly wasnt so bad (besides the 60 fates per weapon step)

people complain about the one time grinds but they really werent hard imo
yeah shb was auuugh for one time grind and that 60 fate step
like if you do them all at once sure, but relics are not meant to be grinded all at once
personally outside of fates, i don’t really mind the light farm
especially arr since it’s only 40-50 mins worth of farming
boob tank stack confirmed. ff14 is getting its tawawa moment.
Rest yer weary souls in my bosom
You need to keep the boobs from hitting the platform
gonna be like that part in Susano except the tank blocks her booba rather than giant sword
and everyone else has to deplete that booba health
.
mb missed that
Where’s that meme image of the AOE markers
was it this one (cropped cuz...big booba)
title was "nophica raid fight leak (real)"
And the epic comment on that post
"So instead of letting us rest our weary heads upon her bosom, she’s going to rest her weary bosom upon our heads"
Yes lmao
Poor Azeyma.
When the first alliance raid came out people fawned over the flaming mommy
but now... inserts Andy I dont want to play with you anymore.jpg

tfw I feel Azeyma mech is more movement than NaldThal tho
Not really the only time you have to move a lot in Azyma's fight is if the MT takes it to another clone/safespot than what you guessed.
The meteors or the blue puddles of NaldThal tho...
but we already has hot bird lady
That was two expansions ago, what about new hot bird lady?

What if you think Endsinger is hot?
She’s a bird lady
Goth bird lady
^^^^
Harpy Lady from Yugioh years later
Lmao I dunno what that is
i mean ff14 certainly has a lot of sexy female enemies/bosses
Has too many sexy older men.
that as well.

Bi panic
"stupid sexy roe"
Oh god the paladin doomposting
I’m actually hyped for it
I love the aesthetics of PLD but man outside of bladeworks it’s kinda mid
I have never played it tbh so
The comments about Eureka Orthos being pretty much the next iteration of Heaven-on-High with not a lot of story content makes me think it won't be tied into the Manderville stuff. I know... was it @crystal arrow speculating about that earlier this week?
It wont be tied into the story i think but you might need to do it or a similar step to get stuff for next manderville step
Hmm. It'll be interesting to see either way.
Like, I don't mind doing another deep dungeon.
TBF makes sense
You need a farmable spot
I expect arr/HW level of grinding anyway
from what i sounded like to me it's a lot of poetics/astro farming
since you can "pre-prep"
"-> YoshiP thinks it's better for healers to properly set skills that they normally don't use."
bouta rescue party members or something
oh god its sleep
nahh casters have that as well
and nobodies got it on thier bar either way 
Probably esuna
Esuna at least breaks up watching bars for dropping health
Esuna doesn't see a lot of use on high end but it's been getting their uses on normal content
Ye, this is for normal
Esuna is probably just designed for normal content anyways
Troia had doom, dead ends had the first boss
Isn't there Esuna needed in DSR? Or am I mixing it up with Interject?
Please be careful not to end up with situations where you go "Oh shit, I didn't set this action in my hotbar!!"
lol
this is exactly whats gonna happen
Esuna is very funny because for once there is no real compelling reason to not having mapped and let people die
but also you could just run away and not get hit or see the eye and get doom 5head
Except for the stupid slow at the start of labyrinth of the ancients, hate that shit
if I get cleanse that healer gets a comm automatically
Yeah, in the Ahriman fight in WoD, the fact that you can dodge the Doomgaze by not facing the boss when the spell completes is part of learning the fight. The fact that healers have Esuna AND there's a floor panel you can stand on for the dispel is what makes the mechanism easy mode.
Honestly Esuna in Troia or Dead Ends is kinda annoying because the healer is forced to lose a GCD because of another player's mistake, rather than dropping an oGCD heal (or lily) on them.
Ngl you're not missing out much unless you're trying to parse Storm
I rather Esuna someone than lose a whole DPS or Tank

But if I don't have 100% broil uptime I'm a failure of a human and Eos will claw out my eyes
Send help she has a knife
But to be serious for a moment if I may
That's some headass shit to be thinking and I've experienced it TOO many times in Troia and Dead Ends.
Especially when server decides to tick and say "Oh you might have moved but I feel like registering you there anyways".
something something rollback code for MMOs
Dead ends doom is kinda merciless tbf, you only have so much time before that shit ends you and if you get hit again you're as good as dead
Troia though I can esuna three people no issue (yes this has happened)
that's not slow that's misery debuff if you're not careful to get it
hey at least better than emotional damage debuff, cleaned by emotes 
Broil gaming means you're not applying Bio
Shh
interject in dsr, esuna in tea
what's really wild is the part where ||you don't have to go far on the internet before finding PLENTIFUL ART of nonsensical bewbs because hentai mangaka are horny as FUCK||
which is to say some kids are still kids with innocent eyes and it fuckin shows
hey now, I always use rescue
when Im playing with friends I help them stand in AOEs
!ll
Kupo uses !
Fucking vibrating here

it's pronounced "estrogen"
It's pronounced "E"
I always called that Roe samurai in the job quests "Estrogen" because i cant remember his name exactly
Ostrygein i think?
Is the pld rework releasing right on 6.3 or 6.3X?
!ll
Sleep nate
Still
time's an illusion,
Need to be rested to take in information
and I woke up at 4pm so I'm guuci 
a farce
Im a good working adult going to work
Snooz
eepy
sleep now and wake up in time for the stream 
Hohoho, new channel for tonight
!ll
Waiting for the omega ultimate where it tells your IP out loud and doxes you
will there be again a livestream by the discord for live translation like last time or is it just text translate?:o
He reads your internet history
There'll be a JP only live stream and people here will translate in the #translations-and-liveletters channel
oki, thanks :)
I take whats going on right now is a test?
Yes
I always blank, what's best to watch 'em on
I really hope they give us a taste of the PLD rework
Nani? Really?
Yea
Ugh okay Twitch it is
youtube buffers more for better feed quality
as a result it runs on a 40-30 seconds delay
If they just made PLD be a clone of GNB and not a clone of of WAR and DRK
I'll be pleasantly surprised
Just make PLD have a useful kit
That's all
They don't need to do much to PLD, just change a few moves and give them a good rotation
I think their rotation is good as is but yes to their ogcd buttons getting more tweak
Problem with PLD is nobody can think of a good rotation for it
It changes like
Every patch
And the new slow PLD rotation is ass
Req, Holy Spirit, Atonement, Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit, Atonement, Holy Spirit, Atonement, Confi

Just need to speed it up
The original PLD opener was fast
But after the 6.21 buff the best opener is the slow one
Which feels awful
Its The 18 second coutdown pot for me
Cover is basically useless
Like why
The 18s FoF sucks
I stll genuinely dont know to use intervention properly
you put it on the other tank when they are taking a buster that you either aren't also taking or its shared and you have an extra 50 gauge
Ahhh ic
I havent played PLD in high end content yet
Just at level 80
That makes a lot more sense
Ok but another weird one is passage of arms. Why is the cone BEHIND YOU when you’re rotating the boss the other way
So your party members are actually in fromt of you
its usually used when the paladin isn't tanking the boss
yeah
Not really dungeons i guess 🤔
pld party cds arent really useful in dungeons unless you have a healer that knows what divine veil is
it gets better at 83 when you can pop your veil with your spells
lv84 I think
thanks
veil to me was always just an infinitely worse shake it off lol
what do you mean what happens to veil
at 84 your spells get healing and can pop your veil
like what are they going to do with it? unknown
also that yeah
at 84 your holy spirit self-heals, which is enough to proc veil
before 84 the only way to self-proc veil is with clemency
in before they make paladin an heal tank

is that real lol
looks fake as hell
wait no
I think I know this
isnt this a DRK mod lol
they are all dark knight abilites
Intervention is lowkey a good spell imo
I think I remember watching Xeno watch the video for it
ye, it's a joke
radiant knight or something
Cause you can double it up with Shelltron
its the best as it can be used alongside (holy)sheltron
what they said
Not many tanks have double on-demand CD
only warrior and its worse for you if you use it over bloodwhetting
Ye and it's more DR + heal than oblation too
is it always better to bw yourself over using, uh, w.e the other one is called, on co-tank
Sheltron is just ass this tier bc it doesn't mitigate bleeds
Like the other tank mits
block 
Yea pretty sure that's 100% Unintended
So when people were talking about tank balance I never really take into account the dot buster this tier
SE can very easily change that
when reworks like this happen
how long does it usually take before ppl figure out the rotation
theoretically speaking
What's the name of this mod btw?
I believe its called radiant knight
it really depends on how drastic it is
i.e. how long until a chart for it exists, not how long would it take people to adjust to it
but probably within a day for the "pretty optimal" opener/rotation
Probably less than a day really
and then some more amount of time for "actually optimal" stuff to appear
Remember the balance took 2 months to figure out Ninja rotation for EW 
There's the 0.5s mudra, 1.5s ninjutsu, 2.xxs GCD
Ninja is also just a lot of different moving parts
And it slips between different GCDs so often too
also initial EW ninja was a mess, in all fairness
Oh true
But I stopped looking at the balance for stuff outside of openers after the smn rework
Balance people be crazy
looks at monk optimization
Truly they are demons from another plane of existence.
I did for a time
But now it's just sad
Ngl this guy gives me bad vibes
They go crazy every patch
no smn cope channel was deleted a while a go
Oh really?
I mean they are still bitter
Such is the fate for all jobs that get drastically changed
I remember them going crazy after the 6.2 stuff
The cope channel barely helped
There were people upset that more people were playing smn
they just suffered in the main lounge
I think my friend loves it when I remind him that sam has more casts/min than his caster
How is more people playing a job a bad thing 
smn is too simple, that's all
Here's hoping in 7.0 they make smn more engaging
Tbf Smn oversimplified their button spread
in before they change the primals animations for the bahamut --> phoenix part and call it a day
There's no point in having a complex class mechanic if they're all relegated to like 2-3 buttons
What was SMN like before, all I know is there used to be a dot
Like a BLM wouldn't be fun if you only have to press 1 button even if every GCD and oGCD plays the same
skill issues
Old SMN was janky
Your skills could be ghosted bc ifrit decided to auto attack
But it gave the job something for players to think about midrotation
A lil less simple but was pretty simple
Wait whaaaaat they auto attacked
Oh wait nvm
What am I saying lol
I havent played smn in a while
Pets do auto attack back then yeah
woulda been less janky if jobs could have 2 pets
I mean
knowing the spaghetti code, it would probably be more jank
MCH is the real SMN now
I have enough of pressing searing light only for it to come out 20 sec later
Same with primal skill
no since you wouldnt need to worry as much about ghosting and such
that's assuming the game could deal with 2 pets on screen too 
Yoshi P, I am here to make a deal. You can ruin PLD by turning it into another WAR clone, but in exchange you rewrite the PLD job quests to be not dogshit.

thats why i said if jobs could have 2 pets grimm
the code probably only allows the 1
Deal
Go full gladiator
so we already know, like, the full list of 'things' which will be in 6.3, right - and this PLL is just 'more details on those things whose existence we're already aware of'
- are you not entertain *
Aye, but this’ll be a lot of new visuals such as the trailer, images of gear, and Yoshi showing off one or two in-game instances
And, ofc, the PLD stuff
I mean yeah I'm not complaining or w.e I just wanted to be certain about what to expect
yoshi and his pieces of paper!
hope he shows eureka
Oh yeah, the main NEW thing will likely be the identity of the Ultimate
And the new deep dungeon
May or may not be the MSQ trial, too, but Ultimate is more likely
Oh I mean we know the name of Eureka Orthos,
I meant things in this live letter not mentioned in the previous
MSQ was said to be secret last time
I do remember Yoshi P saying they might show [the Ultimate] off this time in the last PLL
Sure, but the cat’s out of the bag, like I expect them to be more forthcoming with the Twelve in Euphrosyne- but, MotR isn’t MSQ of course
And because neither is Ultimate, that one’s pretty certain too
Oh, I expect them to show the twelve
A bit of dungeon
Dramatic Zero cutscene
Twins being stoned
Do you think final boss of Lapis Manalis will be one of the Fiends
I doubt it, but we don’t know if there’s a fissure down there or not
Like I doubt the last two fiends will be coming to us as easily as Scarm and Barb did,
But I’m curious how Lapis Manalis leads towards the trial
Tbf last patch ended with fire dude saying he needs cagnazzo for us
there are still 2more trial
Yeah, but I doubt they’d step out of their domains like Scarm did
And Barb’s mobile domain was her specialty
admittedly I was just sort of assuming that boss we saw is the final boss
i suspect 1 of the fiend will abandon the other
the goth doll thing
New cc map
I expect to deal with 2 fiends
Next patch being golbez
And the last trial in 6.5 can be either msq or something else
I expect the reaper training hall she’s in to be the 2nd leg of the dungeon, I suppose
then the .5 trial?
So first or second boss for her,
Void story will end in 6.4
extremes come out same day as everything else right
doubt it
And 6.5 will be the event that leads to 7.0
theres no like delay or w.e
Nah, it was stated a while ago
they never said that
yes extreme is same day
Let me check
unless its a new interview that i missed
Not necessarily that the void arc will be wrapped up in 6.4, just that an unexpected event will occur and start giving an idea for 7.0
i highly doubt it but we shall see
I think the "brain memory" game of the trial will be a result of cagnazzo and rubicante fighting toghetor too
Yeah, I suppose I do too. The main thing of 6.X is that there’s no Endwalker Pt.2 to take up .1-.3, so I’d like this current arc to go over into .4 or .5
is Goolbez also from another FF game, or is it just the arch fiends
I know the arch fiends are from... 4?
they are from 4
wasn't sure if Goolbez is also
including golbez
Goolbez feels like the villains that was introduced to be killed in the post patches tbf
How did you remember the arch fiends without Golbez?
In place of the usual 6.3 baddie
because I haven't played FF4
He is exactly that even in 4

I am recalling this information second hand
Are they Four Fiends or Archfiends in 4,
Archfiends
arch
And non-Arch is the FF1 bosses?
I'm really wondering how they're working him into 14. Is he here just to fill time as a minor antagonist?
the only FF games I've actually played are the 7 remake, 14, and 15, so I only vaguely know stuff from other people
yes
Goolbez is as big as raids villains if his story goes on until 6.4 or even 6.5
He doesn't quite work without his relationships from 4. Take that away and he's basically any other black knight evil guy
As it stands, he’s a very powerful denizen of the 13th with his Archfiends being 4 Rulers of the Void
They'll make Goolbez its own character
With its own motivations
So a non issue overall
Throw in the twins to get stoned for next patch reference /s
I mean they've happily recontextualized stuff before
pretty sure Warring Triad are like completely disjointed from their original incarnations thematically
That's what I mean
As with any other reference in 14 (with few exceptions), he’s his own version of Golbez inspired by FF4
Think as stuff from other FF as concepts
Or just pretty design to be used
With a few key events/moves attached
Saint Shiva was an elezen woman who lived a 1000 years ago and fell in love with a dragon, for example
And not a Priestess of the Macarena Temple (FF 10)
Or just a powerful ice elemental, I think is most her other incarnations
There might be some similiarities sometimes, but also actually no
See the weapons
They're not nature made weapons
To protect the planet
Tbf Sorrow of Werlyt the kids were more like DEEPGROUND
Point bein’ color coding and daddy issues
Sorrow of Werlyt also is gundam reference
Well mecha in general, Overmind is very Evangelion
I don’t recall gundam ever using the uh,
anywa 2 fiend or not we will find out in less than 1 month
Organic core method
yea but the mech design share some similarity
But I also haven’t seen much gundam,
Tbf, the more explicit gundam reference was the first boss of Puppet’s Bunker, iirc
Also the other other thing
Is that they said fiends will appear in order of strength
And rubicante is last for sure
did they?
Before 6.2 interview
i see
iirc that was more, “if you played FF4, you might know what order they’ll be in”
pll test stream started
Same diff, but important to pull the correct quote and such 
i see
Gentiana ❤️
even if we deal with 2 fiends this patch there's always the possibility we fight azdaja after them
I like ff7 remake design the most
Although I need to see ffXVI one better
Cause it has 2 giant swords apparently
speaking of which...i thought ffxvi garuda was implied to have made love with MC in that trailer
That was Odin, I do believe
Nah
Nah that's odin dominant
It was Barnabas most likely
oooh
For a sec I thought you were gonna shitpost “yeah Clive and Barnabas bang”
Like if only
Clive bangs Jill of course
Shardbert
In before he too dies a virgin
True, as it stands I mostly see 16’s Ramuh and Odin taking over as my favorite incarnations,
But I’ll wait to see Jill’s arc when she slaughters those guys about to sacrifice her
I love ice mages, usually.
Speaking of Clive, have you seen the official FFXVI sprite of Clive? Here's a picture.
For me it’s character and such, like 15’s version of Knights of the Round is so clever,
So was the Heaven’s Ward, of course
the big question is, will the food models in XVI be on par with that of XV?
strim up
I heard that the cooking from Final Fantasy XV is inspired by Epic Meal Time.
i better see every grain of rice in those rice balls
Unless we get a bunch of food benefits, no 
as long as we dont get, well...
Like the recent FF's have been making whole character arcs and storylines and foreshadow the reference,
TBF that also puts it at a disvantage towards games where summons are just a gimmick
which I'd count the Heaven's Ward and Rulers of Yore into
And not actually fleshed characters part of the story
Fair, I just love the reference being fleshed out like the Kings of Lucis were,
like in HW I didn't catch on they were Knights of the Round 'til they all shadow Thordan at the Singularity Reactor
Somnus was such a jerk.
But i digress.
bahamut was
then again, comes to Knights of the Round as a King Arthur thing,
Yeah everyone was puppets to Bahamut game.
and, Thordan and the Knights Twelve were clearly the Round Table, etc
Somnus threw his brother under the bus and said "well Bahamut made me do it,"
Time to get some grog for the PLL
but he still killed that Oracle,
baha really coulda just asked ardyn to do that but instead he decided to fuck with him
Somnus was a total jerk I was willing to forgive Ardyn for everything els ethat happened after
It's the part where, Ardyn was destined to suffer and Somnus was destined to be the first great king who smited the Starscourge- his brother,
so like, Somnus was fated to be an ass,
something something about somnus face resembling baha's own.
Somnus played his part, and, like... can you blame him...?
I think you can, but it's blurry bc FATE and such
Morbol is up with some tests
will always blame Somnus
Ardyn got fucked over bc he was to be the first King, but when Bahamut saw the scourge would only be contained and fester within him, stripped him of that destiny,
etc, etc
And yeah, Bahamut himself going "WE ARE ALL VICTIMS OF FATE," while he's the one dictating what fate is,
what was the source of starscourge anyway?
Episode Ardyn was itself a retcon of previous lore. Then they retconned it again with the novel where Bahamut was the one who released the Starscourge and the plot of FF15 was him just cleaning up
The meteor
As of current FF15 lore it was from Bahamut. He released it on purpose to cull humanity who he sees as plants in a garden
Ep Ardyn is like the 7 Remake where the retcon is someone tried to change something but FATE said this has to happen anyways, tbf
Ardyn was supposed to lead in the Au
wow
Where Ardyn lives being killed
a shame the remaining DLC got cancelled and turned into dawn of the future book.
a good read though.
i hate baha more
Ep. Aranea 
Thus the dual chose
Also the novel is unfinished
This remind me of uri quote in shadowbringer trailer
somnus and bahamut are shit in 15
The split in Ep. Ardyn is he either submits to "destiny" and becomes the villain begrudgingly or Bahamut tortures him 'til the (further) broken man is the villain, iirc
ardyn should have won
Something bout running from fate or try to change it but can't deny it
which either way leads to the theatrical Ardyn Izunia,
because he has no more reason to give a fuck
and they cancelled the other dlcs
and tbf, from the book, it still woulda just been,
Ep Aranea is "HEY LUNA'S BACK"
Ep Luna is "HEY BAHAMUT, WHY AM I BACK?"
Ep Noctis is "FUCK YOU, BAHAMUT"
!ll

If his reason of being was to be slayed, he had no reason to resist, that's all
He craved death and Bahamut told him "not yet," yeah
cuz he just wants to be with whatsherface 
did she even have a name
His GF? pretty sure
What the hell is this Pop Team Epic draft 
How long before these become emotes?
I love Yoshi-P in the Pop Team Epic universe
Sky Mage confirmed
yooo Sky Mage confirmed
sky mage?
dw about it
check the #translations-and-liveletters
finally 100% uptime
it only knows aero spell
yoshidaaaaa
you can fly over mechanics
Imagine, that would be a game changer
Sky Mage op pls nerf
would Sky Mage fail Height Error if they needed to be Low Elevation
Yes
Welp time for a break before the real PLL
I mean drg still trigger mine in potd with elusive jump
every mechanic is now an active time maneuver
Sky Mage is just the Wanderer from Genshin,

I loved the FFXIV Pop Team Epic skits xD
The Twinning Meme has grown far too powerful
I was about to say that, but was too scared.
Flappy Sky Mage mini game

ew, Central
People on their way to actively spread misinformation as soon as that skymage image dropped
Someone made an emote mod for the dance lmao
Was that after fan fest or after the Pop Team Epic one
oh I guess emote mods weren't as big back then
It's recent so after Pop Team I think
but I know people have been requesting it for quite a while
yeah, all them fancy bone mods
does anyone still do live translations
Aye, we got our translation team going in #translations-and-liveletters
Derplander PLD is looking at the new 24 man area bc that's where the milkers are
He's got his priorities
Should I expect Fanfest news
Assuming right side is Eureka Orthos, surprised that made it to the patch poster
Can't wait to see da booba
ESP ticket date drops 
Can't wait to see all the Sky Mage cosplays at Fanfest
in before ice heaven /s
I wanna get a ticket before I pay for my hotel/flight
It's either Syrcus/Orthos, Lapis Manalis, or the Heaven of Ice,
Right side looks like crystal tower base. Maybe first stuff?
weak to thunder though
based on the structure, must be the first one, yeah
Oh, well it could be on the Source,
he's praying to the 12 his rework isn't bad






