archived-player-vs-player

[glossy cape]

i think

[lapis mauve]

Damn thats amazing

[glossy cape]

ye

[sterile ibex]

wait does charm just kinda lead the enemy toward the charmer

[lapis mauve]

I read reaper gets stronger if he lives longer is this true?

[weary inlet]

Yeah

[lapis mauve]

Yeah at a snails pace

[glossy cape]

i mean

[lapis mauve]

DNC LB might be the hardest to coordinate with randos

[glossy cape]

lul

[sterile ibex]

oh so it's better than stun

[lapis mauve]

My teams have gotten 5 man charmed and we just kill the snake charmer after the charm

[weary inlet]

200k damage melee players

[lapis mauve]

Leave me alone man

i was LAGGIN

[thick ravine]

mfw i have 40k hp and the enemy players have 80k damage potencies

[lapis mauve]

Wait anyone here is gold?

I've seen like 1 gold dude ingame

0 in the discord XD

[harsh valve]

damn I just got MOPPED by a sage

only played a few games so far, trying to figure out how to pick targets as reaper

[glossy cape]

love it when i lose a rank because some fucking morons think it's funny to just LB 1 person for no reason when they're 5% hp

like bro just gcd

[lapis mauve]

Sage is INSANE in dps

[harsh valve]

I don't want to be "that bitch" but I feel like if I keep their healer + 1 other DPS busy behind the circle, my 4 teammates should be able to handle the 3 enemies on the circle... right?

[glossy cape]

yeah

[lapis mauve]

I find more success just joining my team on the circle

[glossy cape]

assuming they're of the same brain cell count

and not like mine

[lapis mauve]

i was doing this and team just doesnt care

[glossy cape]

who just fucking THROW easy matchups

[harsh valve]

cause its been a couple of those, and the team just falls apart or does nothign

[glossy cape]

yeah

welcome to frontline conditioned players

[lapis mauve]

You gotta aim for who the ape hivemind is aiming at

[glossy cape]

"if i just gcd, nothing can go wrong and i win anyways"

[thick ravine]

mfw 5% winrate

[lapis mauve]

How do you see winrate?

[thick ravine]

fortunately you don't but i've played like 20 games and won 1

[lapis mauve]

XDDD Damn man i feel you

First day i probably had like a 5% too

[glossy cape]

30%

no wait

70%

[lapis mauve]

Today was crazy tho i probably have a 50 - 65%

[glossy cape]

lost 3, played 10

[lapis mauve]

I quit early just so i don't jinx my good streak and ruin my mood XD

Went from Bronze 3 to Silver 1 in probably 15 games

Wait

Silver 3*

My bad

i wish i was silver 1 tho

[glossy cape]

OK

THIS IS BROKEN

YOU CAN HOLD KAESHI NAMIKIRI UNTIL YOUR NEXT OGI COMES UP

SO YOU CAN 3 OGI IN A ROW

LAMO

balanced

[lapis mauve]

😭 I don't even understand some of these names

[broken marten]

whoa, gotta try that

[lapis mauve]

I gotta study tf up

[broken marten]

SAM is fun as hecc in PVP

[lapis mauve]

IMO best dps

Worst is MNK but best in my heart

[harsh valve]

hmmm how is BRD?

[broken marten]

has the stickiness of monk and hits hard, lacks mid-to-long range but the No U skill is pretty clutch

[lapis mauve]

Pretty good , 3 second silence is INSANE

[glossy cape]

!pvpaction oginamikiri

[surreal token]

**Ogi Namikiri** : SAM (2.5 second cooldown)(1.8 second base cast time)

Delivers a critical hit to all enemies in a cone before you with a potency of 800 for the first enemy, and 75% less for all remaining enemies.
Grants a stack of Meditation, up to a maximum of 3.
Can only be executed while under the effect of Ogi Namikiri Ready.

※Action changes to Kaeshi: Namikiri upon execution.

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[lapis mauve]

SAM does not lack stickiness my boy what you on about

[harsh valve]

yeah I just saw one for the first time, ended up taking the W but WOW that was hard

[glossy cape]

!pvpaction kaeshi: namikiri

[surreal token]

**Kaeshi: Namikiri** : SAM (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 8,000 to all enemies in a cone before you.
Potency is increased by 50% when attacking only a single target.
Combo Action: Ogi Namikiri
Additional Effect: When attacking two or more targets, creates a barrier around self that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 8,000 potency
Duration: 10s

※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.

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[glossy cape]

big dick

plays

[broken marten]

Well yeah, thats why I said it sticks like a Monk, Monk is super sticky

[lapis mauve]

Oh

Sorry my brain no work

[glossy cape]

ok so like

ogi is 20s

lemme record the new burst i found i guess

[broken marten]

Real proud of this clutch victory

[lapis mauve]

Red mage is good right?

[glossy cape]

ah

i see

[lapis mauve]

I see them get top DPS a lot

[broken marten]

super versatile

[glossy cape]

so it's basically only viable if there's like nobody around kekw

[broken marten]

but can be bursted down super quick as well

[glossy cape]

but ye

can be dumb after you exit a teamfight or a 1v1

[lapis mauve]

Yeah they are top prio after SAM in fights

Very easy to 1 shot tho

[broken marten]

love how each Job has very distinct roles now

[lapis mauve]

Are they the ones with the rock clap move?

[broken marten]

NIN is like the off-Mage, can execute and sneak kills very well

[glossy cape]

[lapis mauve]

I saw that and lost match

B4 queue

I think MNK should have six sided star stun for 3 secs instead of 2

[weary inlet]

Holy fuck SAM is bullshit

I've noticed the common theme that almost every game with a SAM plays like dogshit

[lapis mauve]

They are really strong and while you can avoid them chances are your team won't

Also my least favorable class but i can't blame the players

[weary inlet]

With how easily they can chase someone down, while having a defensive option, I dunno what you really can do, especially since teams tend to just pepega out and let people get chased till infinity

[glossy cape]

aww yiss

[glossy cape]

cc before meikyo to bait purify
then you can cc chain cause tehy can't use meikyo while silenced or stunned

[hollow frost]

is there a good job/class to climb? i hardstucked silver

[glossy cape]

the best job: learn your bursts and other classes

so you can counter easily

[hallow imp]

Smn

[broken marten]

I think ranged is always a good pick for starting out

MCH is kinda memey now in PVP

[lapis mauve]

Welcome to hell

[glossy cape]

thank you, discord sprout

[lapis mauve]

SAM

NIN

[glossy cape]

please actually just learn the job

instead of playing sam cause "sam easiest"

cause hte emount of pepega sams i see is just

[lapis mauve]

But yeah even i can climb with MNK

just get friggin good and tight

[glossy cape]

git gud

climb well

[lapis mauve]

I made this when i got silver

I will get to GOLD MNK ONLY

One day i swear

Maybe today idk

[weary inlet]

The job that seems to be able to do a ton for the team, and potentially be a good carry down the lone, could be PLD

[lapis mauve]

PLD is super annoying to play against , that chain pull they do is so strong

and i think it applies heavy so its very good to bait purify

[glossy cape]

yuh

people reactively cleanse when they get slow

so ez bait

[lapis mauve]

Definately

I even see purify + guard

[glossy cape]

good sam lb

only a double

but

good enough

[lapis mauve]

Also underrated on monk is enlightened riddle of earth

Hard to pull off without dying to minmax the riddle but ive hit entire teams for 30k + combo with the Line AOE move and you can setup for entire teamwipes

[glossy cape]

told you

learn the job

and you can be broken

but like yeah

team setup jobs are pepega with matchmaking

[lapis mauve]

Wait lemme just clarify i know my job

Just not 100%

[weary inlet]

But we already know SAM is broken without knowledge too

[glossy cape]

cause all it takes is 2 morons and your team setup is out the window

[weary inlet]

[glossy cape]

i mean

sure

[lapis mauve]

like 85%

[glossy cape]

let's go with that

[lapis mauve]

Idk about that tho

[glossy cape]

let's just shit on a job cause you don't know how to counterplay

[lapis mauve]

I've seen alot of 500k SAMS

but also a LOT of 100k SAMS

[glossy cape]

yeah

people are flooding it cause "sam broken play sam sam sam sam"

just learn their burst and you can shutdown

[lapis mauve]

I stand by my choice of saying SAM is a tad bit overtuned but

[glossy cape]

same shit applied to frontline before 6.1

[lapis mauve]

I won't say it doesnt require proper skill

[glossy cape]

learn how the enemy bursts

use arms length at the right time

and then just go ham with feint and your burst

like yeha

a proper sam can wreck teams

not denying that

but it's not as braindead as y'all are making it out to be lul

[lapis mauve]

Let it be known i never called Sam braindead

[glossy cape]

cause if you don't hit me in chiten
my lb won't instant kill
and a 2v1 i can easily lose

didn't say you did, just some people make it sound like it

[lapis mauve]

Yeah i feel you

[glossy cape]

like shit

if it's this easy to do good

how come i'm getting fucked in 1v1s

silv 2

was actually a good match

we wiped the floor with each other

but my sam lb was too stronk and got a double again 💪

enemy sam was good too tho

also this is neato

effects play on plates

[lapis mauve]

It was a 3 min game omfg

They stomped the f outta of us tho

[glossy cape]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we lost

because team said

[lapis mauve]

Damn didnt mean to expose the guy XD

[glossy cape]

"let's fight this monk in middle"

ugh

i'm so fucking pissed at how braindead some of these players are

crystal on red near our base

2 morons fighting on red boxes

like wtf are you doing

[harsh patrol]

Tunnel vision

In a game with tunnels

[amber escarp]

anyone has a macro to press intead of tab targeting ?

[lapis mauve]

I click when i need a specific target

Machinists have no excuses to not get top dps

i hate BAD machinists

[glossy cape]

hey funke

you want some pog tech?

[lapis mauve]

Sure

Hit me with it bruddah

Also had this super clean game jesus team was on point

[glossy cape]

well i did in dms

[lapis mauve]

OH XD

Didn't realize it was you

[glossy cape]

but i'll pop it here too

on the tornado map, you can use guard before the map-wide turbulence
it won't knock you up
and you'll avoid big damage

[lapis mauve]

Yeah i do it every so often

but i swear sometimes it pops

in my blind spot on purpose haha

[glossy cape]

you get knocked up regardless of where you are iirc

[harsh valve]

!pvp action Unguarded

hmmmm didn't think that would work, had to try

anybody know what job applies that?

disables your Guard ability for like 13 seconds?

[lapis mauve]

I'm pretty sure its an LB

Bcus someone sent a screenshot of it

Lemme search it up after this game

[lapis mauve]

15 secs

[harsh valve]

[lapis mauve]

Damn im getting some great teams

[hallow imp]

How do you know it's coming though? :0 I always just see the red circles on the floor go swirly, and when they go fast is what I've been relying on

[glossy cape]

feed

there's a counter lmao

[lapis mauve]

WHAT

[glossy cape]

[lapis mauve]

I thought the golden chocobo symbol was it

[glossy cape]

fucking muppets not looking at feed

[hallow imp]

Oh cool, there's a lot of hud shit I'm blind to apparently

[glossy cape]

cough

[lapis mauve]

Theres a FEED>

XD

[glossy cape]

it'll show up on the bottom there

[hallow imp]

Pog

[glossy cape]

Turbulence incoming in Xs...

[lapis mauve]

A machinist just 1shot chainsaw mw omfg

[glossy cape]

rekt

[lapis mauve]

Nerf plox

Make it so 5% it kills them

XD

[hallow imp]

I need to learn how to counter some of these jobs that just 1shot lb me :^)

[lapis mauve]

Who do you guys prioritize killing

When its only DPS's

I think i go for SAM > RDM

[glossy cape]

rdm first any day personally

cause ignoring hte sam is how you don't get rolled by chiten lb

[honest trellis]

I just spam abilities till either I'm dead or we're pushing the cart

[glossy cape]

Sam: If you see chiten up, don't hit

!buff hissatsu chiten

[surreal token]

Error!

Buff not found, Kupo!

[glossy cape]

!buff chiten

[surreal token]

**Chiten**

Damage taken is reduced while countering attacks.

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[honest trellis]

Can't wait for all the videos to come out so I can learn to be good.

All I'm decent at is Paladin. Great defensives, stun for days, takes hits for squishies

MCH too, but I dunno. Feels like I never do enough damage

[harsh valve]

BRD was nice, but going back to Reaper suddenly feels bad

it seems the other melee DPS have much more staying power

[honest trellis]

Watching me LB someone only for them to heal back to full is very sadge

[lapis mauve]

I mean early game

[glossy cape]

same shit

[lapis mauve]

I burst them as early as possible before LB

[glossy cape]

ignore the sam

[lapis mauve]

then move to RDM

But i swear on me nan its working for me

But RDM is also too good of a target

dude dies very quick

[glossy cape]

RDM has buffs and healing

fuck that shit

[lapis mauve]

Yeah too much versatility

I just fought a sam

dude was setting up combo , i knocked him away and just waited for his passives to drop and murdered him

We learning

[glossy cape]

homie didn't leave 1 charge of dash

also

would like to remind y'all

sam has next to no aoe damage unless they throw their dashes

only aoe the have outside of dash gcd is ogi

and that shit good for bursting

[lapis mauve]

And even that aoe is meant for single target no?

Doesnt it do extra dmg on solo

[glossy cape]

yes but also no

yes

but you get a shield for 2+

!action ogi namikiri

[surreal token]

**Ogi Namikiri** : lvl 90 SAM (2.5 second cooldown)(1.8 second base cast time)

Delivers a critical hit to all enemies in a cone before you with a potency of 800 for the first enemy, and 75% less for all remaining enemies.
Grants a stack of Meditation, up to a maximum of 3.
Can only be executed while under the effect of Ogi Namikiri Ready.

※Action changes to Kaeshi: Namikiri upon execution.

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[glossy cape]

whoops

!pvpaction ogi namikiri

[surreal token]

**Ogi Namikiri** : SAM (20.0 second cooldown)(1.5 second base cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 8,000 to all enemies in a cone before you.
Potency is increased by 50% when attacking only a single target.
Additional Effect: When attacking two or more targets, creates a barrier around self that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 8,000 potency
Duration: 10s
This weaponskill does not share a recast timer with any other actions.

※Action changes to Kaeshi: Namikiri upon execution.

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[glossy cape]

8k + 8k shield
or 12k dmg

x2

[honest trellis]

Like, it sounds great but I always immediately gets CC and die

Even with Purify.

[lapis mauve]

Oooh thats fat

You know maybe MNK isn't so bad

Could be bias cus im winnin

He is crazy good at chasing and finishing off anything

[weary inlet]

It's not like really any of it matters TBH

Since one teammate can pepega on a SAM

and you are fucked

That's my issue with it

[lapis mauve]

Yeah just avoid SAM like the plague in teamfights

When sam has LB Up i chase healer

cus team wants to get Chit ON

xd

[weary inlet]

Id understand if this is how sam worked in the old slow pvp

but it feels VERY out of place here

[wintry fog]

anyone got tips for how to play SCH? New to pvp and dont seem to be able to do much of anything in CC

all my damage doesnt do enough to even be noticeable and all my healing barely helps cuz i only get 2 before cooldowns and they dont do a ton

[weary inlet]

My tip on how to play SCH is to go with SGE instead because it seems to provide more of everything

[dusty ginkgo]

so who should i be putting kardion on in crystalline conflict? or frontlines for that matter

i've just been picking somebody (or myself if i have no faith) but is there a strategy there

[lapis mauve]

If theres a tank him

and hopefully he goes for aggro

[weary inlet]

Generally someone who wants to dive in to pick people off. SAM, NIN, DRG; If there is no tank

[lapis mauve]

Yeah anyone ballsy enough

[dusty ginkgo]

lol, that's basically what i've been doing, good to know

[lapis mauve]

55K damage black mage on 2mins omfg i swear

[glossy cape]

it be like that

[white oyster]

How long is a season of PvP typically

[lapis mauve]

Till the next big update no?

[weary inlet]

Ew

Like Im not quite sure what to do if people just dive in and go too deep and get picked off

It's happening a lot and it chains losses together

[glossy cape]

if someone leaves the match on your team
you should not be able to lose a rank

simple as

especially when they leave like 10s in

[nova oar]

Anywhere i can see all the new pvp gear outside of the game?

[weary inlet]

Do people not know guard exists?

[lapis mauve]

How they didnt foresee this happening its bs

[weary inlet]

Why do so many just jump in without anything at all

Just hopping in dying and doing the same over and over and over and over

[glossy cape]

braindead frontline-conditioned shitters

[weary inlet]

I should have started ranked earlier cause its rampant AF

[lapis mauve]

After a while i imagine

the noobs will go back to Limsa RPing

so pvp will get better matches maybe

O M F G A MACHINIST JUST ONE SHOT 3 PEEPS ON MY TEAM

[weary inlet]

I think I might just stop with this shit. This is actually beyond pepega

all 4 members of my team just held LB the entire fucking match

[hallow imp]

Ooga

I use that shit on cd

[weary inlet]

SE NEEDS to add in a tutorial for hotbar setup for this shit. It's obvious people have no clue and I dont want to deal with their inability to just damn read

[glossy cape]

[weary inlet]

Force them to set up

I know most of the content barely requires it, and it damn shows

[lapis mauve]

Im listening to oldschool dubstep for MNK optimal gameplay

and its sorta working

keeps me focused and truly elevated

euphoric if you will

[glossy cape]

ngl

the "no cast time" lb

but actually has cast time

pisses me the fuck off

i use lb
basically done
gets fucking poly'd

Anybody got any tips for dnc in pvp? Just can’t seem to get the hang of it

like just put a cast time on it at this point

DAMN

WONDER HOW WE LOST

[weary inlet]

DNC mostly seems to be praying to god your team reacts to your LBs

[glossy cape]

yeah

[weary inlet]

Since that is really the most impactful thing you have

[glossy cape]

dnc and brd are all about godly setups

[lapis mauve]

GOD fkn matchmaking keeps giving enemy tanks

[glossy cape]

Yeah I figured it would be better to go in with friends over randoms, Lb seems to get wasted most of the time even when I let them know my LB is ready to go

[lapis mauve]

And this godly stun the optimal opponent tanks

wtf

WTF

YOOOOO

YOU CAN WIN IN OVERTIME EVEN YOUR BEHIND

we defended THIS SHIT FOR LIKE 3 MINS

[weary inlet]

Yeeeee

[lapis mauve]

I tanked so much holy shit no way

i wanted to give up

[weary inlet]

a WAR with SUB 100k damage

how the fuck do you manage that

[lapis mauve]

Sub 100k damage period

The game has to be like a minute to not do 100k minimum

[weary inlet]

was nearly the full 5

[glossy cape]

i'm gonna start getting violent

i swear to fuck

if these shitters don't use lb

jfc

[hallow imp]

Oooo that's the lb bar

[lapis mauve]

Yeah lol

[hallow imp]

I'm learning new things every day

[lapis mauve]

Ive been more mindful of it for my team too

If you sync it with your mates you can instakill

[hallow imp]

Listen listen. I'm just an ignorant fool who goes slashslash nyooom and presses rdm buttons

[glossy cape]

learn ye job

[hallow imp]

The rest of the HUD is all blue magic to me

[glossy cape]

blu doesn't even ahve a job gauge

[hallow imp]

Well I was gonna say black magic, but I'm a rdm, I understand white and black magic lmao

[glossy cape]

well blue magic is just copying other magic

[hallow imp]

And I kno mah job D: I just am still learning the shit on the HUD and what it mean

[glossy cape]

🅱️utt profile

[lapis mauve]

XD

[cedar terrace]

SAM

Is SOOOOO good in pvp

Holy

[lapis mauve]

Thats a controversial opinion bro

[cedar terrace]

[lapis mauve]

xd

[glossy cape]

idk

[weary inlet]

SAM is extremely good, because if you make 1 mistake against it, it can instantly wipe your entire time

[glossy cape]

seems underpowered

[glossy cape]

that's like against everyone lmao

wrong cleanse - you can't cleanse next cc burst

guard too early - they'll burst when it comes off

[weary inlet]

Thats 1 person dead

instead of all 5

:smio

[glossy cape]

points to ninja they can chain lb instant kills from half health

also

no lol

samurai can't wipe entire team if 1 person makes mistake

[weary inlet]

But they actually can though

[glossy cape]

you need to hit them during chiten for you to be instant kill

[sterile ibex]

they all 5 need to make the same mistake

[glossy cape]

so if you got 5 wiped by a sam

you're all monkeys

[lapis mauve]

Yeah if 5 dudes attack sam with full LB

They kinda asked for it

[glossy cape]

Y'all just getting rolled and blaming the game for it when you don't even know half hte kits

[lapis mauve]

But i do think maybe a slight nerf wouldnt kill sam

[glossy cape]

1 less charge on dash imo

[lapis mauve]

or buff monk LB!!

[glossy cape]

3 is too much lmao

[lapis mauve]

Make monk lb a kamehameha

just give us white mage LB

[glossy cape]

nah

monk burst has juice

[fringe tiger]

Dude

Warrior is a FUCKING TANK

[glossy cape]

yeah?

[fringe tiger]

why the FUCK is it burst damaging

so hard

[glossy cape]

because they all do?

healers also burst lol

you can 1v1 a healer as a dps and actually win

[weary inlet]

Sage can probably outdamage most DPS

[glossy cape]

or get rolled kekw

yeah

[weary inlet]

Then again

Sage is NOT a healer

It's a DPS with minor healing

[cedar terrace]

I see now

[fringe tiger]

seriously

nerf fucking warrior

[weary inlet]

reaper

[fringe tiger]

this stupid-ass aoe stun

jump in

lose half health

like really?

[lapis mauve]

That stun is cancer IMO

[weary inlet]

Does wyrmwind thrust ignore guard?

[glossy cape]

WOOOOOOOO

[lapis mauve]

Omfg morons lost overtime bcus of chasing

[glossy cape]

shit on

[lapis mauve]

I hope my loosing teammates chip a tooth eating chicken or something

[glossy cape]

[lapis mauve]

Jesus

an actual Milly

havent seen it

[glossy cape]

i've seen like 2

it's always the drawn out matches

[weary inlet]

People leaving the crystal to chase enemies during overtime

holy fuck

[glossy cape]

ye it's funny

[lapis mauve]

Just lost bcus of that

[glossy cape]

free W for me

[weary inlet]

how much fucking glue do people sniff

[lapis mauve]

Im on a loop of getting silver 2 and going back to silver 3

[glossy cape]

oh well

time to get ready for work

good day grindin'
from 5 to 12

[lapis mauve]

Gl with that

[cedar terrace]

SGE

Is literally

a DPS

[stark grove]

Like GNB

[weary inlet]

DRKs going in over and over and over instadying

[glossy cape]

they probably think new LD buff is pvp

[lapis mauve]

xddd

[cedar terrace]

1m Green DPS

[lapis mauve]

Actually insane

[fringe tiger]

melee need a fucking nerf so hard

that or mages need a buff

[lapis mauve]

MNK

Needs a buff

[fringe tiger]

MNK can 1-shot with lb combo

unavoidable stun

can't be broken out of

[cedar terrace]

With lb combo, aka rarely

[fringe tiger]

no

they get it pretty often

[lapis mauve]

No we dont

[fringe tiger]

I had a MNK keep doing it to me throughout a game

[lapis mauve]

3 or 4 at max

[fringe tiger]

K whatever you want to believe

[lapis mauve]

per 5 min

[lapis mauve]

No im serious i play only MNK

i would know haha

Also guard destroys our combo

[fringe tiger]

That's cool

Don't care

I play against many monks at higher tier lol

and it's stupid how often they 1-shot me

[lapis mauve]

What's higher tier?

Maybe it's because im only silver then

[fringe tiger]

Diamond

evreyone gets bursted so quick

at diamond

melee damage is insane, couple that together with someone setting up a stun for them that also bursts and you just die because of the insane damage melee does

it's like a consistent high burst

[lapis mauve]

Fair i value your opinion more

Diamond rank is CRAZY

[fringe tiger]

It's not that crazy

It only took me 2-3 hours to get here

[weary inlet]

You sure they werent just having a bard on their team?

[fringe tiger]

but it's beocming unfun because it's just almost exclusively melee

[lapis mauve]

It is crazy man everyone is silver and shit XD

[dull phoenix]

its fun when people refuse to sit at crystal 🙂

[weary inlet]

You easily get hard stuck in a loop of people just going pepega

[sinful tundra]

has anyone gotten the mount yet

wtf this mch just put a damn bomb on me

and i died before i got to the hp thing

[glossy cape]

Wildfire

Rekt lmao

[timber dock]

yeah the constant melee stuns are pretty annoying

my strat has devolved into using paean on the caster/healer that didn't neutral game hard enough

[sinful tundra]

pog

[fringe tiger]

It's not the fact that there's so many stuns

but rather

the fact that they do so much damage

during stun time

[glossy cape]

Burst

Rekt

[sinful tundra]

i love following the healers

i just spam my combo while following them lmfaooo

[fringe tiger]

I literally can't break bottom of diamond as RDM

RDM is just soo ass compared to all the other popular classes at that rank

Our damage is neutered because we're a support dps, and our support is neutered because we're a dps support.

Our LB hits like a wet noodle.

We only have 1 attack that consistently does damage and it's on a 20sec cd that also serves as our only survivability which we have to sacrifice if he want to to some more damage over time

otherwise just sit there and cast

[median coyote]

do ranked crystalline conflict matches give more wolf marks than casual ones?

[glossy cape]

Nah

[sinful tundra]

how much i get from ranked

[glossy cape]

500 for wind

250 for loss

[sinful tundra]

currently bronze 1

wtf

[lapis mauve]

When i get close to ranking up

[fringe tiger]

Give me back fucking vercure

[lapis mauve]

i swear i get tense

[fringe tiger]

This needs to go

[sinful tundra]

whm is so broken god damn

[stark grove]

I tried dueling a reaper with BLM like 10 times, I only won once

[sinful tundra]

impossible to kill them

wtf

[lapis mauve]

I think it's bs that it can affect AOE , even if its easy to just not hit them i think its stupid for stupids sake

And i havent died to zantetsuken in a hot minute

That and Machinist instakill

[sinful tundra]

smn is pretty good

[stark grove]

3% is so unlikely it's more funny that anything when it happens

[lapis mauve]

Wasn't funny to me when it killed 3 teammates

and we instantly lost overtime XDD

[stark grove]

It's not funny and yet you put "XDD"

Curious

[glossy cape]

Cause it was funny XDDD

[lapis mauve]

Okay maybe

[stark grove]

my point exactly

[lapis mauve]

Slightly funny

But not so much

It was an xd not an XD

[sinful tundra]

jesus reaper is broken

okay teams really are a hit or miss

its like no in between

[glossy cape]

Last I heard reaper was bad

Are you sure you're taking player skill out of the equation

Sounds like not

[stark grove]

All I know about RPR is that beating it in duel with BLM seems nigh impossible

[sinful tundra]

its more of the amount of reapers that have done a shit ton fo dmg to me

[lapis mauve]

RPR seems shitty to me

All they do is scare me for 5 secs

then i turn around 360 degrees and kill them

[glossy cape]

Ye

Player skill baby

Counter play em

[fringe tiger]

There is no counter

the only counter to melee is being polymorphed

by a healer

[lapis mauve]

Case and point mfer it was a 4 min game

[glossy cape]

Go do that

[lapis mauve]

I thought i did shit and did like 4 times his damage

[stark grove]

God polymorph is so annoying lmao

[lapis mauve]

Yea XD

And you can't purify out of it

[fringe tiger]

dude

Reaper can fucking scare you out of guard?

Seriously?

Why the fuck do MELEE get all the utility

[lapis mauve]

LMAO

Sneakiest machinist ever

Dude topped damage and took no damage

epic

Enemy was trash tho

[sterile ibex]

wait wtf

no damage taken

[lapis mauve]

We won in like

a minute and 20 secs too XDDDD

[median coyote]

ooh ok
ty i was farming for garo gear and was hoping there'd be a more efficient way

[sinful tundra]

YAY

[sudden crest]

apparently portraits unlink every time you change gear

[unkempt ether]

in regards to the season malmstones does the XP required for levels start scaling upwards, for example above rank 10 needs 10,000 XP

[sudden crest]

scales every 5 levels

[unkempt ether]

thanks

[sudden crest]

i'm at 15 and I need 5500 for 16

[unkempt ether]

oh thats not too bad

so it scales by about 1K~ every 5 levels?

[sudden crest]

1k at 5 and 10, 1.5k at 15

[sage topaz]

yo mods pin this shit
ATTACK THE SAME TARGET WITH A 1 ON HIS HEAD
tyty

[sinful tundra]

LOL

[fringe tiger]

K

Done with PvP until they buff rdm and nerf the shit out of melee

this is fucking stupid

Give me back old rdm

[sudden crest]

only drg is really broken

[lapis mauve]

The most broken thing is the players peanut brains

[floral pollen]

literally feel like i'm griefing when i play a caster thats not smn

or ast, or paladin and gnb

[sudden crest]

ast is one of the best supports what

like the biggest issue in pvp is people not using recup or their LBs

I've had warriors, monks fucking summoners sit on their lb for 3 minutes straight, where I got 3-4 whm LBs off in that match

pvp is a prime example that people don't read their skills, ever

[floral pollen]

yeah i love reading the wall of text thats whm lb LOL

[sinful tundra]

they probably dont have lb on their bars

[floral pollen]

yeah lol

[sudden crest]

thats still bad lmfao

[lapis mauve]

Some mfers still think the lb for pvp is the same as pve

[floral pollen]

they probably "saving it"

legit if ur not using LB on CD as BLM

you are trolling

2 second anim lock 🤣

[sudden crest]

like I get holding ninja lb

but fucking summoner????? you're actually inting by not using it

[sinful tundra]

[floral pollen]

dunno man the lb bar is too small

[sinful tundra]

i hate playing against smn

[floral pollen]

kekw

[sudden crest]

summoner is super easy in 1v1

actually crumbles

[sinful tundra]

blm i can manage by just spamming their ass

honestly i think pvp would be better if LOS was better

but i dont think thats possible for ffxiv lmao

it would make blm more annoying

[floral pollen]

should have made them like artillerist / xerath /velkoz

instead of some weird DoT and soft CC mage

[sinful tundra]

should have been like warlocks

where they just never die in pvp

[floral pollen]

kekw

thats the 7.0 caster

[sudden crest]

Oh the ninja pose is actually garbage

you can only get a COUPLE frames you can use for icons because its either "too far" or "not in frame"

[lapis mauve]

That Hp restored tho

Call me vampire i cus be sucking

[dull phoenix]

Are the griefers in pvp real people or bots leveling?

They afk in spawn

[lapis mauve]

Griefers probably

Report them

[dull phoenix]

They are so cringe

[lapis mauve]

1 MORE WIN

AND I GET GOLD

WISH ME LUCK

If i get it qualuds are on me

fuck YEAH

[sinful tundra]

niceeeeeee gz

whats after gold? diamond?

[candid patrol]

I'm finally silver, does that mean i'm no longer trash senpai?

[sinful tundra]

[lapis mauve]

Depression

[sinful tundra]

[lapis mauve]

We're all gonna make it bruddah

[sinful tundra]

funke do u have the garo horse

the 30 wins mount

[candid patrol]

i think i just hit 15 titled wins

which one is the bird?

the frontline one?

[lapis mauve]

Idk lemme check

I'm on 29 wins actually haha

Since i played like 60% before getting title

[sinful tundra]

ooo 1 moree

[lapis mauve]

Imma go get it

[sinful tundra]

show when u do

[lapis mauve]

kK

I dedicate me getting gold to Gilbert Gottfried

RIP my boy

Damn at gold everyone is either gold or platinum

Shit felt very fair even though i lost

[sinful tundra]

[lapis mauve]

Pretty balanced imo

[sinful tundra]

bruh

i just got fucked by this nin

so badly

ugh

[lapis mauve]

Kk got my mount

[midnight wagon]

yesterday i deranked from gold 1 to gold 4 twice before i was able to get to plat

[lapis mauve]

Theres a gold 4??!!1

[midnight wagon]

yea gold 4 3 2 1

[lapis mauve]

My purple top on the gold horse reppin those pimp aesthetics

And as a monk you betcha i be bitchsmackin SAM's and RDM'S

[midnight wagon]

i havent seen many mnk player

[lapis mauve]

Oh shit your right

im gold 4 XD

[fading timber]

[sinful tundra]

woa

[lapis mauve]

I've played like 100 matches

and i've seen maybe 5-8 monks

Not counting me ofc

[cedar terrace]

Ayo, why DRG healing this much?

[glossy cape]

Because they probably utilized the big dick pot channel

Which people forget they have

Which gives full hp and mana

[lapis mauve]

If you use the pot at the beginning

do you thin it counts for healing?

think*

cus you can get 5 sips in the starting zone

[sinful tundra]

i just played vs such a good bard.

he interrupted every single one of my phantom rushes omg

[cedar terrace]

Over 7 minute match

Super intense Overtime

[amber escarp]

Monk players, since rising Phoenix is not a weapon skill does that mean you can stack with pressure point on a phantom rush?

[versed lily]

how do samurai and dragoon compare, i enjoy ninja samurai but dont have a 30 dragoon

[tropic quail]

What does the time stat on the far right mean anyway

[versed lily]

probably time in crystal i guess

[candid patrol]

Drg sustains better, Sam has similar dmg, less sustain, but has the ability to wipe the entire enemy team.

[versed lily]

kl, will have to level drg to give it a go, i like samurai but somtimes ppl just run from ur cast times

[candid patrol]

The running isn't the issue, it's the interrupts

[versed lily]

what gives the dragoon more sustain

the -50% samurai button is pretty nice

[candid patrol]

Jumps, and the fact his aoe is basically making him ranged dps lol

[versed lily]

a i see

[candid patrol]

They're both very viable, top tier easily. I give the edge to drg only because he's a little easier to play. Sam's reliance on timing your rotation on stun to get his other stuff off properly is a bit trickier.

[versed lily]

i need to try ninja again, i think its actually a bit better than samurai

cant sit on the point as much but way more burst

[candid patrol]

I've not tried nin yet, but seems a bit more difficult, and ur oh shit button maybe makes it less punishing

[spiral brook]

DRG’s horrid roar also makes people do less damage to you

!pvpaction horrid roar

[surreal token]

**Horrid Roar** : DRG (30.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 2,000 to all nearby enemies.
Additional Effect: Afflicts target with Horrid Roar
Horrid Roar Effect: Reduces damage target deals to you by 50%
Duration: 10s

Powered by XIVAPI

[next cradle]

So, what's the feel for GNB? I have been at it all day, but before I weigh in I gotta see if I'm just playing it utterly stupid

[fresh coyote]

should you really de rank if people afk and are kicked?

[vestal python]

Does anyone know the macro command to add a quick chat line to a macro?

[fresh coyote]

had 6 matches in a row where i have had a quitter in ranked before the match even started

[vestal python]

Some kind of macro that would cast primal rend and at the same time announce the target with the Attacking Target quick chat skill

[fresh coyote]

7 i think i am going to take a break from ranked...

[glossy cape]

Absolutely not.

[fresh coyote]

like 0 damage healing and everything?

[glossy cape]

You should not be able to lose a rank if someone leaves from your team

[fresh coyote]

i do agree with that

[glossy cape]

Why you can
Fuck knows

[fresh coyote]

but i mean not leaving spawn

that seems absurd

like if they are fighting and leave normally i get that

[glossy cape]

Report

[fresh coyote]

but if they do nothing and get afk booted

i thought they said they were doing harsh leaver penalties but i ran into a bunch of people in a row

i'm going that if there is someone who has not left the platform for the whole match it should be scratched where there is not a win or loss

for cc that is

[candid patrol]

I was gonna try gnb, but looked too big brain. But i bet it feels awkward. Like not being able to junction defensive potencies cuz no tanks on the other side. Or no healers to improve sustain with auto heals. U could be left with being a glass cannon.

Having said that, i like that they went full on ff8 in the design.

[sullen bane]

it says i'm unable to chat in crystalline conflict? Also I updated my adventurer plate and it still shows the default

[next cradle]

It is just

dog

You aren't a tank as GNB unless the other team has one, and you don't get anything for CC

crowd control

[candid patrol]

Chat is disabled in CC

[next cradle]

From what I've found, you're a blue DPS but they forgot to adjust your actual damage output to match

It feels like GNB's LB gets stopped by any crowd control and I'm just sitting here like "there is no way I'm doing this right"

[candid patrol]

Yeah, i can't say it's bad, maybe badly designed if designated as a tank, but it's versatile. The lb thing happens to me all the time as a Sam. Gotta pick ur spots. Not gonna say that's ez heh...

[next cradle]

I'm exclusively activating it on the crystal, while they're standing in my radius. They're not taking damage.

I think it absolutely requires someone else firing their spells into targets after you LB

[candid patrol]

I'll have to give it a go later, but i can see the pain

[next cradle]

you are basically giving people a 3k DOT and give them 3% more damage per stack

Keen Edge has the identical potency and combos into better skills, and you don't get your shields from the combo

they did my boy dirty

[versed lily]

i feel like if u could actually queue as a team , sam drag + 2 heal and a tank would just destroy

[candid patrol]

Haha, maybe it can be fixed if they require a tank in the party

[versed lily]

or 2 drag 2 sam and a whm XD

[next cradle]

yea, soloq without role restrictions was

A unique approach

[candid patrol]

I get scared whenever i see a smn/whm, drg/sam and a war

[next cradle]

WAR/DRK is what gets me

Maybe I need to try other classes but it feels like there just isn't counterplay to their invulns

[versed lily]

just wait 15 secs and press ur samurai burst combo again

[next cradle]

[candid patrol]

I think bard does a decent job at it. The silence and stun to stop them from getting hp or mitigation up.

[versed lily]

i really need to level dragoon, seems really fun

just trying out some mch in casuals

its kl but u have no defensive, so if ur frontline is bad, gg

[candid patrol]

It's only lvl30, takes a day lol

[versed lily]

thats one day of pass grinding gone!

[candid patrol]

Lol

[lucid nest]

Don't you love it when the losing team in front lines decides to be asshats? We were trailing second, then came first then both teams killed only us

[safe isle]

I'm probably just playing it bad but does Paladin feel a bit weak in CC to anyone?

[versed lily]

does frontlines give more pass exp and marks ect to make up for longer games?

[inner steeple]

yes

[civic gust]

gives a crap ton of regular xp to boot

[spiral brook]

My frontlines game didn’t give me any season pass EXP

Unless you need to win

[inner steeple]

I got 1500 xp for frontline roulette at least, I'm not sure if there is some kind of bonus for doing the roulette tho

[civic gust]

there is a roulette bonus for sure

[inner steeple]

That is terrible news if you can't get xp outside of the roulette

[left linden]

Is it just me or is Reaper really not that great compared to the other DPS?

[lucid nest]

You get more season xp in cc

At least 700 every 5min at least

[inner steeple]

Yeah it's super fast compared to everything else

But it's a shame because it's also an awful experience

Imagine making a small scale team based pvp mode that requires coordination and then sending you in with randoms that aren't allowed to communicate

And then making the reward for losing almost as good as the reward for winning

Surely people won't be toxic and afk

I'll take frontlines any day

[visual marten]

You can get at least 5-6 CC matches in the time of one Frontline. I feel CC would be much better if it had set roles per team instead of like 5 DPS vs a Tank Healer and 3 DPS.

[lucid nest]

Psa:

STAY IN THE FKING CRYSTAL

[sinful tundra]

no

ranged do ur job and stay in it

[inner steeple]

Oh yeah, there is no doubt that it's the fastest method. It's going to be the most appealing way to finish the grind for people that don't enjoy pvp, which unfortunately leads to a small minority of people ruining the experience. But there are other problems with CCs design that make it annoying. Like a lot of people that are new to pvp are not very competent, which is understandable and fine, but the quick command messages aren't really robust enough to help people learn. I get that they disabled chat because they want to avoid toxic behavior, but people are just doing that anyway by afking, so I'm not really sure that blocking communication was worth it at that point

I'm sure it will sort of fix itself in a sense when all those people get their stuff and go back to not caring about pvp, but at the moment, it's a pretty bad first experience

The random role match making is also annoying, but I honestly don't think that's as bad as not being able to talk

I think the pvp mode at it's core is actually a lot of fun though. Maybe the only contentious point being that it's over in one to two interactions, depending on how badly one side gets steam rolled

[visual marten]

The sound effects are also rather annoying when the chat gets spammed.

[inner steeple]

Hopefully they will smooth things out in the future

It would be a shame to not polish things now that the new pvp class changes are great and make pvp so much more fun

I think if they got rid of the built in latency and 2 second server ticks, people might actually play this game for the pvp and take it seriously at this point

[visual marten]

Scholar got kind of gutted though.

[inner steeple]

I'm not sure how other jobs got changed tbf

[visual marten]

Not really seeing what they have going for them now.

[inner steeple]

I play MCH so im loving it

I feel like I'm borderline cheating with this busted job

[visual marten]

That 5% instant kill Analysis is tempting to use instead of Drill.

[inner steeple]

It's a complete meme move

It never procs so its pretty much a waste... but... maybe

The temptation is always there

[visual marten]

But when it does though. When you least expect it.

[inner steeple]

Double damage drill is almost as good though

You can hit a healer for like 75% of their hp

Which is absolutely disgusting considering you get to start with drill

[visual marten]

Using LB after Drill against someone is satisfying.

[inner steeple]

LB is also absurd

It's basically just a free kill on a healer every time

[visual marten]

Once they are at like 60% health.

[inner steeple]

I don't even care about their hp any more

I'll do it raw on a full hp boy

[visual marten]

Now if only we can get the sniper in PvE as a skill.

[inner steeple]

Someone else will tap them with anything and finish the job usually

Ngl, I kinda want whoever designed pvp MCH to just do that to pve MCH

The kit feels so much cooler to me

Even if it's super limited

Slow walking while you gun people down like you have a lever action rifle in a western movie

Hell yeah

[tropic quail]

sam killed entire team by themself

Fair and balanced

Drg's a lot of fun still

[inner steeple]

Wildfire working the way it should to begin with

Scattergun being an aoe knockback that still deals damage

It's hilarious to steal ground on the crystal with that move

I just wish the netcode wasn't the worst so the crowd control removal ability could actually be useful

[visual marten]

On another note, I found Warrior rather fun in Frontline, not so much CC.

[inner steeple]

Do they still get to decide a random persons fate with holmgang?

[visual marten]

They still get a pull skill.

But now they can dive bomb right into the fray with Primal Rend and a Dash that stuns.

LB is enhanced Inner Release with many Fell Cleaves.

[inner steeple]

Dang

[visual marten]

Feels good getting a kill with Primal Rend. Also has deceptively long range on the targetting.

Crossed like the entire top platform with the drones of the map with it.

It also follows them if they move.

[lucid nest]

I feel like this game mode is Glitched nd times are I'm dealing no damage even though I hit every single move on a person

And some people just tank four limit breaks and like it's nothing

[inner steeple]

Did they have guard up?

[lucid nest]

No

We didn't kill a single person they just tanked everything

[inner steeple]

Weird, I haven't seen anything like that yet

[lucid nest]

They would also only attack one person at a time altogether

[visual marten]

Could be a bad connection or maybe illicit activity. PvP usually has them popping up.

[sinful tundra]

you cant make premade groups can u

[visual marten]

Nope.

[sinful tundra]

sad

it would be fun but kinda toxic

[visual marten]

You can set up custom games with 10 people. No rewards though.

[sinful tundra]

oh thats cool

i wonder if ffxiv will ever make tournaments

like wow

i would LOVE to watch that

[lucid nest]

I just wish more than once every thirty games I get people who aren't paraplegic orangutans

[next cradle]

the community would run tourneys WELL before I think we would see official ones

I'd be surprised if we had something akin to what WoW tries, especially with the mode as it is now

[sinful tundra]

i think its very doable if they make it longe tho

cos some of the wow ones last way more than 5-7 min

[next cradle]

Longer doesn't necessarily = better, but with that in mind a "best of 3" or "best of 5" would be pretty cool to watch

Class balance would definitely need some work first

[sinful tundra]

for sure

ban nin and sam from pvp, done

oh and whm

[next cradle]

that doesn't even come close

[sinful tundra]

[warm shadow]

Any whm here? I'm looking for tips because I have no idea what I'm doing

[next cradle]

Kill - you have one of the wildest CC tricks in the PvP game

[sinful tundra]

turn casters into sheep

and pigs

[next cradle]

AoE stun, a single-target polymorph, etc

if any class were a League champ, WHM would be the one that gets first-banned every game

[sinful tundra]

dont just polymorph anything tho try to be strategic

[lucid nest]

Is whm been a problem in cc?

[sinful tundra]

yes

its pretty strong

[next cradle]

WHM is incredibly potent in CC, as its setup really lets it swing fights

[sinful tundra]

sage has a good burst too but its not as good

[next cradle]

I don't even think they heal

[warm shadow]

aoe stun? I have almost no abilities and don't see an aoe stun

[sinful tundra]

click pvp actions

[warm shadow]

ah the lb?

[next cradle]

I couldn't tell you the name of it, just I see WHM do something then everyone in my team has the stars

I can't do enough damage to them as GNB to even phase them and that's the source of my salt rn

[warm shadow]

What about cure 3? How does that work, it says I can't put it on the hotbar

[sinful tundra]

i think a skill turns into cure 3

im not sure i havent whmed pvp yet

[lucid nest]

I've lost 7 games in a row now because I can't deal damage

Samurai Reaper ninja and white mage just absolutely delete you by Smashing their head on a keyboard

[sinful tundra]

sam reap nin

[lucid nest]

They press a button and in my tanks health is nearly one shot

[sinful tundra]

thats like instadeath literally

the pve sams dont know what they gained from their recent loss broken ass pvp job

[lucid nest]

Losing really doesn't matter though since you getting nearly the same Rewards

You get 250 less wolf marks whoop-dee-doo

[sinful tundra]

i meant the kaiten removal

[warm shadow]

Is there a way to practice or just casual yolo?

[visual marten]

[sinful tundra]

no kaitens?

[lucid nest]

[broken marten]

Kaiten is PVP only now

[somber breach]

Why are people who have no idea how to PvP doing ranked and not non ranked?

[sinful tundra]

[inner steeple]

They want them shiny ranks on their thingy

Just as yoshi intended

[sinful tundra]

pvp rank shows up on adventurer plate?

[inner steeple]

I dunno, I don't even work here

Never even played this game before

[somber breach]

Like legit question. Do they like wasting peoples time?

[inner steeple]

uhhh.... yes

[somber breach]

Sweet

[inner steeple]

Most people I've seen in there don't even attack the healer first or know about LoSing, so the expectations are resting firmly on the floor

[sinful tundra]

thats why i mark theh ealer every time

[inner steeple]

I assume this pvp update is attracting people that have never played a single pvp game in their entire lives and they are all flocking to see what all the fuss is about

[somber breach]

Yes which is cool & good

but don't jump right into ranked

I just watched a dancer give DP to a bard and not a DRG or SAM

[lucid nest]

Does for rank requirements go past 4k per level? Or is 4k the cap

[sinful tundra]

yeah i saw a dnc give dp to mch instead of me, a monk LOL

[somber breach]