That I don’t disagree with
#archived-player-vs-player
pseudo hamlet
misty cloak
I said prior I thought it was a great idea
pseudo hamlet
Peopel didn’t seem to care about flyja
They seriously just need to bulk up the shops every patch
misty cloak
But I also still think they should add something else to ranked besides a title and silly border and banner and such.
pseudo hamlet
I think the problem is the ranked rewards don’t change at all
It’s beyond lazy how it’s just a number change
Should be a different banner theme each patch the very least
misty cloak
I think I can kind of understand why that is.
If you remember the big conversation they had about whether the different seasons of the Restoration should have different titles besides just Saint/Beatus
They decided to just keep Saint
They’re probably using the same thinking when it comes to T100 titles and such
I don’t think it would be too much of a problem if there were at least something else that allowed a player to differentiate their seasonal placings besides just a different number on a banner
A trophy, really. Like, you could have multiple trophies in your house for each seasonal win, and it’s not something that everyone and their mother would want like an armor set.
pseudo hamlet
People are pathetic
They’ll somehow still be people account buying for that stuff
The battle pass needs better rewards too
Like there’s only ever one good reward from the battle pass
misty cloak
They could make the stuff you get with crystals more rewarding overall. Like, if they made the X Materia rate better than 15k marks for one. Would also give people a reason to farm more past 30 and such
spiral brook
I think I would’ve liked Fylgja more if it scaled better
So races like Au Ra/Roegadyn get basically a full size dragon
pseudo hamlet
Idk looks fine to me
Love this mount so I’m biased people are too mean to it 
The gear this patch looks sick but it’s still hot nothing on shadowstalker
Dev team went too hard on that set
pseudo hamlet
misty cloak
Still kicking myself that I missed Shadowstalker
Maybe if they add a currency to let you buy old feast/fold sets 
sharp maple
@misty cloak hi
But anyways,
Yes, there is people who actually want to play ranked, and for those that do I think they should give t100 more rewards than just portraits and titles. Or if not, could even add them as tier rewards, idk, something.
It's stupid to throw the ranked players under the bus just because casuals want it easy.
That's like complaining you can't get an Ultimate weapon, "make it obtainable to us", do the content and learn it and you can get it. It's both optional content.
Ranked isnt even that much a time investment unless you're like literally going for #1.
In feast it was hard but CC made everything a lot easier
pseudo hamlet
I mean the problem was that it was literally only reward
Pvp shop never got updated the only that ever got added was the top 100
sharp maple
And the ones who complained about not getting it were people who didn't want to put in the time.
sharp maple
Thats fine though, I think there should be a separation between people who genuinely want to be good at PvP and ones who don't.
Reward people for their efforts
sharp maple
Yeah I know, I'm not saying series rw is bad
But they should reward ranked a bit more
pseudo hamlet
Idk I think the rank rewards are fine
The actual problem being they are the same every series
Idk what’s so difficult with making a new card every patch or something
sharp maple
Feast wasn't as popular, but it was still active for 18 seasons.
CC is already dying in its 4th
Its bad
Casual Q pops but ranked almost never anymore
pseudo hamlet
I think rank only pops during patch series
Like ranking up gives you trophy crystals but there’s fuck all to spend it on
sharp maple
This season, on crystal
Only popped twice for a total of 8 games combined, the past 2 weeks
pseudo hamlet
It’s hard to motivate people to get to crystal again
Couldn’t be fucked last series to climb back up
sharp maple
I'm in the t100 rn but I can't even go any higher because it doesnt pop
The floor is literally 100 credit
pseudo hamlet
Square definitely fumbled the rework
All they have to do is keep adding new stuff but last patch came with nothing
This one also nothing probably
sharp maple
Gameplay is fine. But rewards need to step up
pseudo hamlet
The thing is he stated that in a interview
But then 6.2 they did absolutely nothing to address it
🤨
In another interview he says pvp activity is at an all time peak and rival wings was seeing an increase in interest but no roulette or reward changes either 
what are they waiting forrrrr
sharp maple
Idek
wheat cargo
i lost motivation to climb after reaching crystal the first time but i still play casual a decent amount when i'm not raiding and stuff, usually a couple games a day
idc about climbing rewards but it'd be nice for there to be more things to earn somehow
pseudo hamlet
Pretty much me
I also can’t take this games pvp seriously
But playing casuals is always nice and chill
I wish it was possible for them to get every dc connected to one server for games
Like all of NA could play together or whatever
sharp maple
At this point
There's more value in grinding for Alpha Wolf than there is going for t100 in CC with how dead and unrewarding it is.
And because of how many bad players are left in Q since most the good ones quit after the past few seasons, it's even harder to actually climb tiers.
Getting Crystal in this season was a nightmare for a lot of people because games are so bad.
On top of demotion existing now too; which is fine by itself.
But because there's no new rewards, less good players are playing which leads to more annoying games.
And less pops
At least on Crystal DC its been that way, I hear primals better
Aether's board is 40% diamond
spiral brook
Today is a blessed day in Onsal.
Probably my best match ever as BLM, and over half of those kills were in the last 4 minutes.
wheat cargo
i had a win today wynne, where i was second in the alliance for damage at 650k
spiral brook
That’s horrific
wheat cargo
we just had perfect ovoo rng
spiral brook
Amazing
wheat cargo
and we buried every random person that came our way
first place in my alliance was like 800k
and both of us were like barely in the top half of the game
amber escarp
please que up ranked on aether.
misty cloak
I feel so bad quing casual
I actually legit reconnected with an old RP partner of mine because I ended up quing into them in a casual and just stomping
DM’d me asking if I was stomping them on purpose 💀
sharp maple
I'm convinced that legitimately blind people could play better than some of these players in queues.
Maybe a bit harsh but maaaan
nocturne glacier
Dude i have no idea whats happening but im now on loss 25 of the night
CC is something else at the moment
shrewd tangle
Dude i have no idea whats happening but im now on loss 25 of the night
I feel this. I go to Aether to queue because Dynamis' queues for ranked are absolutely dead and my last couple of matches were nearly rage inducing.
amber escarp
DM’d me asking if I was stomping them on purpose 💀
"Yes, I'm the top now"
Hope that was your answer
misty cloak
amber escarp
wooden grove
i had a win today wynne, where i was second in the alliance for damage at 650k
i don't want to read this 😭
wooden grove
I feel so bad quing casual
same. i just feel bad deleting people
then after the win, it just makes me wish square enix would do something about the lack of in-game pvp tutorials
like, no wonder they're so bad. some people don't even know limit breaks aren't shared in pvp 
wheat cargo
I love lbing as dragoon in frontlines and then seeing my battle high jump up like 60% at once
exotic kayak
61 assists as SCH on Seal Rock.
You gas an entire crowd and watch your Battle High tick upward.
wooden grove
i tried playing SCH the past week or so
that only works when the rest of your 24-man can actually commit kills 🥲
if they can't, all you do is gas...
spiral brook
The 10th
zinc lynx
where can i find this seasons pvp set?
amber escarp
You can't, this season's pvp set is actually a mount
Maybe they'll bring it back in the future
misty cloak
Next season will be an armor set again.
exotic kayak
And the new armor set looks dope.
native cloak
So this might not be a good place for it but it seems most fitting to ask here. Are there any discords/FC/fellowships/statics/whatever that focus on PvP? Because I'd love to for example play CC with people I can actually talk with but actually getting 8 people is a little too much to ask for in a "normal" FC.
Yes, I've heard about Revival Wings.
native cloak
That's fine. I just have no idea where to look for them or what they are called. I'm looking for something for EU/Chaos.
calm epoch
Best way to find one would be to go into Frontlines and ask in /alliance
native cloak
I suppose I'll try doing it. Thanks for advice.
nimble sentinel
I recently got into pvp and its quite fast so i end up dying
native cloak
What job are you playing? Frontlines are quite unfriendly for melees.
pseudo hamlet
For new melees definitely
nimble sentinel
What job are you playing? Frontlines are quite unfriendly for melees.
I mostly play Warrior
native cloak
I mostly play Warrior
But in Frontlines? CC?
In Frontlines you want to go in with the stun into a group of people, pop dmg debuff and guard. As it runs out you dash back to whoever is closes to your team and then preferably yank him even further into your team with the chain. Spamming heal as needed ofc.
You don't wanna stay in melee but mostly weave in and out depending on your cds.
quiet niche
native cloak
Other than that just pull non-tanks into your team, focus whoever your team is bullying atm,
Ult is a problem because it also disables your guard so you will have to follow up after someone else goes in.
Try to catch as may people as you can with it too, ulting single person with it is such a waste.
formal hill
how in the world do u deal with monks in CC rn
they feel super tanky, but hit like a truck too and can guard break
theyre either super oppressive and annoying to the point theyll lose the game, or super on top of it and not enough coordination to actually deal with em
pseudo hamlet
how in the world do u deal with monks in CC rn
Haha that’s the fun part
U don’t
If a monk is good and wants you dead they’ll just kill you
Their burst is obvious but like you said they can lb you lol
And they have 3 charges of a dash that also gives them shield
A lot of monks don’t mind chasing you around forever just to kill you either it’s rough
formal hill
ick
exotic kayak
Drag them into your team.
If the monk tunnel visions they're a free kill.
Spacing out your CC (i.e. use BRD's bind first then silence after the monk gap closes) can waste more of the monk's time.
But otherwise, there's no out dueling a good monk.
pseudo hamlet
Yes that’s the best you can do is bait them to getting jumped at from your team
But even in team fights monk can literally 0 death plenty of jobs
plain pewter
Look at their lb gauge and just guard as soon as they dive you
patent gazelle
Tunnel visioning mnk isnt a free kill lol
Ypu still have to get through all the thunderclap shields,recups and roe
weary dust
Is the Commander Coat an achievement item or can I grind wolf marks for it?
exotic kayak
Can't use those if they get stunned or silenced though.
exotic kayak
Is the Commander Coat an achievement item or can I grind wolf marks for it?
Field Commander Coat is an achievement only.
Gotta grind out those 100 wins.
weary dust
Well, I just did my first PvP and I'm terrible so I dunno that that's going to happen. lol
exotic kayak
Most players (including myself) average out at a 33% win rate in Frontline.
And only Seal Rock wins count toward it.
So you'll get it, on average, in 300 games.
pseudo hamlet
Yep
I feel bad for people who don’t have it yet seriously
Because new frontlines makes winning any game uncertain lol
Oh the topic of monk I can’t even think about what they don’t have
Like can dancer have a shred of any of that shot
Can’t wait for next patch buffs to be more honing mitigation instead of actually fixing it
misty cloak
Next patch will just be another random potency nerf to RDM again
native cloak
They can keep potency if they remove that obnoxious silence :^)
misty cloak
It was already nerfed from 3 seconds to 2 seconds
RDM has been nerfed in every single patch since the new pvp released
pseudo hamlet
Never see rdms in my games
sharp maple
Redmage looks cool, Im gonna learn it
misty cloak
I'm probably the only RDM in Crystal t100 
RDM basically boils down to "not actually bad but other classes do what you do better"
amber escarp
Red Mage is free kills in Frontlines
They're still very good in CC though
Little bit glass cannon
round junco
how does sch perform in CC versus uh, whm
sharp maple
imo WHM is better because miracle of nature and stun LB, but SCH is pretty good.
If that's what you're wanting to know.
pseudo hamlet
<:crossarms:888427002275692574> how does sch perform in CC versus uh, whm
Super super good
It’s always been underrated
Because nothing it does shows like an immediate impact
But good shields pretty much
sharp maple
A friend of mine got their push to Crystal as SCH so its pretty good yeah
And
One of the top 10 on the board rn on Crystal DC mains SCH or was maining it
sharp maple
Ast on the other hand Ive not heard good things on
pseudo hamlet
I imagine
Cards probably suck now if I had to guess
Yep new cards are nowhere near has good has the old ones lol
Even in PvP Astro can’t deal with a decent card system
Ohh and they got rid of the bind didn’t they?
sharp maple
Im not sure
But I know I rarely see any ASTs, and when I do they're holding back the team pretty bad
or at least not making much of a helpful impact
pseudo hamlet
Well it’s good to know they won’t be fixing anything next patch
They’ll just raffle which job gets the good buffs
round junco
cool
was just wondering cuz i know sch is meta for FL but i didnt know whether it struggled in cc
sharp maple
Its good in FL and CC, but Id say its more effective in FL because you can infect wayyy more people with the DoT
wheat cargo
FL its good if you have party members that can kill confirm
Otherwise you just give everyone some covid and they brush it off
Your damage looks high but it isnt particularly impactful in those scenarios
pseudo hamlet
^
raven terrace
Anyone know a good counter to RPR in 1 on 1s?
Only class with good kill confirm I'm decent at is DRG but I hit a brick wall on a RPR if it comes to a 1 on 1
It has incredible sustain it feels like
plain pewter
play rpr
misty cloak
MNK LB it
amber escarp
Rpr is a bruiser, they are tankier then most
native cloak
DRG and SAM duel it pretty comfortably.
sharp maple
Anyone know a good counter to RPR in 1 on 1s?
Only class with good kill confirm ...
MNK is a pretty good job against RPR, but don't do your LB combo during Crest and don't let the RPR get away from you, because the RPR will try to escape momentarily to regain their cooldowns before they burst again, and make sure you're using Riddle of Earth during Death Warrants, since that is when RPR will try to do most of its damage, then guard after RPR LBs to reduce damage taken, otherwise you don't need to guard RPR much unless you do not have Riddle available and they hit you with a Death Warrant.
But if you're MNK, as long as you're maintaining uptime and not dropping any Phantom Rushes or Earth Reply's, you should be alright. Not many RPRs are actually good enough to beat MNKs, I think I can only name a few off the top of my head.
DRG is also another option as well because Roar, but SAM not so much unless you're just buying time for SAM LB. SAM has very little to defend itself from heavy bursts, and I think RPRs damage will overwhelm SAM in the longrun.
4sec of Chiten 25% damage reduction, and the damage buff is only if you get hit... VS a 10sec 12k shield+12k regen over 6sec if their shield gets broken (24k together) plus 10% damage buff for 10sec also, that shield+healing together is equal to a single target Ogi+Kaeshi, and more than a Chiten'd Midare Setsugeka. Just makes SAMs burst options do so little against RPR.
Not to mention you get your Midares and Ogis every 20sec, RPR gets Crest every 20sec, so Crest will always be there when you have one of these.
patent gazelle
<:crossarms:888427002275692574> how does sch perform in CC versus uh, whm
Sch is still free wins if your team can press buttons
raven terrace
So me being unable to beat them as DRG is a pure skill issue, noted xD
upbeat lotus
<:crossarms:888427002275692574> how does sch perform in CC versus uh, whm
WHM is a stronger job in what it offers to immediate kill calls while SCH is designed to win attrition, which tends to be a mixed bag as you rely on 4 ppl to play well both offensively and defensively. All green jobs are very, very powerful choices in CC right now.
Given you have a strong team with aggressive tendencies, you can often beat out WHM, as long as Hex or their LB don't turn the fight, if you are able to get a good mummification use that burns WHM's Cure2/3
exotic kayak
Sage LB is tremendously strong in overtime.
pseudo hamlet
Played a few games of casual
Dancer is just fucking pain bruh
Give me some cc immunity or something please
pseudo hamlet
Getting good aoe just feels too good so I stick with it 
misty cloak
I was the exact opposite when I tried MNK in casuals after maining RDM for 4 seasons.
"Bro this is easy what"
sharp maple
@misty cloak What makes MNK hard in CC is situational. RoE delay is one of the big reasons why
It's really good if you get focused with RoE and can make the damage reflect happen with Earths Reply, but that 1sec delay, can reeeeeally mess you up sometimes if you get unlucky
being low HP and pressing recupes into an Earths reply, but it takes 1 full second to actually heal you and do the damage so you just die there before it does anything
everything else isnt that bad to deal with, damage is nice
there's also the pressure point mechanic too
which can be both a blessing or a curse, because of the 3sec requirement, if you're in a fight and can't get that proc in time you lose 12k damage instantly
Enlightenment'ing somebody and getting stunned is, very infuriating...Because most likely it'll make you miss that proc
crude path
as it is secure day, does anyone know where you put salted earth to yank 50 people off the ramp to their deaths
is it at the top part of the landing
or like, in that weird divot and the ledge below
pseudo hamlet
Can’t wait to play one match of the new map and find out it sucks
exotic kayak
I was just in a CC Casual Match where the PLD did 4x the damage of our BLM (who only did 247,000 damage).
I... don't understand how that's possible?
Really good Shelltron, Confiteor, and Blade of Faith hits?
sharp maple
BLM has literally the highest damage output of any job in PvP
so no, that shouldnt be possible
that BLM is very bad
sharp maple
I was just in a CC Casual Match where the PLD did 4x the damage of our BLM (who ...
though, gameplay like this is normal in casuals where most of the people you find have no idea what they are doing
had a game today where my entire team got aggro'd to 1 samurai, and literally all 4 of them chased the samurai through the whole map, leaving me (our sam) to defend the crystal solo
sharp maple
It takes a special kind of evil to Q up for CC and afk in spawn for 90% of the game, and leave when we can't win it without them. Actually hope their PC catches a virus.
pseudo hamlet
People give up after one fuckin fight lmao
sharp maple
dude like
half of these people
Q up for a game
and ignore quickchat the entire game
dreamy ridge
ngl sometimes quick chat is so useless
I can spam the LB one but there's not a quick chat that says "USE YOUR FUCKEN LB"
nothing is more frustrating when I see a DRG with full LB, I (as a DNC) use my LB, all enemies stunned and the DRG just sits there and pokes the tank
pseudo hamlet
DRG PLD just sitting on lb
deft oriole
Is there an executing lb command
Yes it got added
sharp maple
doesn't mean your party will pay attention to it though
pseudo hamlet
Yea and it doesn’t exactly mean use your fucking lb
vast crag
just say your LB is ready, lol
pseudo hamlet
Like I said
It doesn’t mean use lb to your other teammates
Also what is up with bards never using their lb
Out of all jobs they are the ones that hold onto it most
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zinc lynx
Can u get the S1 series armour now? or can u not get it anymore
upbeat lotus
Can u get the S1 series armour now? or can u not get it anymore
Gone
zinc lynx
😦
upbeat lotus
If you earned the series levels to obtain it, I believe it's still redeemable, but it implies you earned level 25 in series 1
misty cloak
Yeah and if you don’t redeem by the 10th then it’s gone gone
pseudo hamlet
Playing WHM makes me realize I’m actually pretty okay
Lost like 7 games straight dnc using all of brain
But WHM I just stall til I get my lb and win lol
pseudo hamlet
Nah not when I’m done with dancer
I will single handedly drive the winrate down every patch till we get buffs
pseudo hamlet
Melees will all be buffed
Because they don’t carry games hard enough
They won’t be satisfied until all of top 100 is melee players
weak grove
crystaline conflict, actually
misremembered
but yeah, I still got similar results, somehow
pseudo hamlet
Still
Incredible lb
Good cc
Good aoe
In frontlines
I suck at melee in cc so good shit
weak grove
I am using frontlines to level my remaining jobs like DNC, RDM (currently), and WHM
and I honestly don't like playing RDM
pseudo hamlet
In pvp?
weak grove
yeah
weak grove
mainly cause I just get overwhelmed with most things if I have multiple priorities past objectives
keeping other people alive along with everything else makes things overwhelming for me
I do really like RPR's hit and run approach
get in, soul slice, dip, repeat until plentiful harvest has multiple stacks
it lets me prioritize on one thing specifically rather than multiple stuff at once
I can see people saying RPR is stupidly easy to play, I call it easy to digest compared to the other 9 jobs I run for PvE
pseudo hamlet
It’s weird
Reaper and dancer are some of the easiest jobs in pve but are some of the harder ones in pvp
weak grove
oddly enough, I think it might be the fact that I barely play RPR at 90, but I never got used to its 90 rotation
where as for DNC, I never got to 90 yet
and WHM is at 85 rn
pseudo hamlet
I don’t know what jobs the hardest
I’ve gotta think
I say the hardest pvp job to me is dancer no bias
weak grove
I think I tried to do WHM PVP at some point, but I couldn't wrap my head around it for some reason
maybe I could try warrior?
pseudo hamlet
War is good
weak grove
it has, like, 3 gap closers?
two that you speed towards the enemy, while one pulls them to you
buoyant hatch
Hardest job prolly ninja
Dancer you just gotta be careful a bit. Most buttons are pretty streamlined
War is still imo most annoying job to play against
wooden grove
WHM is smooth brain gameplay
I play it when I just want to turn my brain off 
I especially like playing it when I know I'll be against friends, because then I can annoy them by turning them into a pig 🐷😂
neon scarab
Am i tripping or can monks stun u for like 10 seconds
tepid pier
Six sided star + enlightenment + meteodrive is a nasty combo, and a monk's go-to when they want to take someone out.
ocean frigate
In CC yeah
But Frontlines they suck unless you can pick up a small group which almost never happen.
zinc lynx
how does th pvp sam lb work?
exotic kayak
how does th pvp sam lb work?
You dash to a target and deal 24,000 damage to the target and any nearby enemies that cannot be mitigated by Guard.
zinc lynx
You dash to a target and deal 24,000 damage to the target and any nearby enemies...
ive seen other sams one shot with it but i cant seem to get it to work 100%
exotic kayak
This damage is changed to 100% of the target's max HP if the affected targets have the Kuzushi debuff.
The Kuzushi debuff is inflicted when the enemy hits you while Hissatsu: Chiten, is active.
It's not going to work 100% of the time due to game latency and people noticing they have Kuzushi so they break line of sight to avoid getting targeted or not attacking you during Chiten.
Any shields will also save the target from death.
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exotic kayak
As stuff like Adloquium, Aquaveil, and Eukrasian Diagnosis will provide enough of a buffer to prevent the target from dying to losing 100% of their HP assuming they're at max HP beforehand.
pseudo hamlet
I’m pretty decent at monk
But how do I not die instantly
This job is so fuckin free man lol
we love reaper we love reaper
pseudo hamlet
Reaper is hella underrated
amber escarp
Hate reapers
neon scarab
whats really bugging me is that they dont put rival wings into frontline
and i will never understand it lol
exotic kayak
Or just make a Rival Wings roulette?
neon scarab
yeah
pseudo hamlet
There is no such thing has a PvP rouletteeeeeee
The game calls it a daily challenge
Which means theirs no reason why there is no rival wings daily challenge 
sharp maple
The games in ranked were so bad last night holy hell
I dont think I can or even want to Q for the rest of the season
pseudo hamlet
What do you mean when you say bad
exotic kayak
I feel like RPRs are either morons are ungodly skilled at PvP.
There's no in-between.
dreamy ridge
I love it when sometimes I go toe to toe with someone thinking they can't kill me and turns out they got hands
pseudo hamlet
Facts
dreamy ridge
Like yeah, I fucked around and found out, my reward is eating shit, but hey, gladly
pseudo hamlet
I be brawling with monk thinking I have enough time to get my burst up
Then boom hp nuked
dreamy ridge
I know it is very counter-intuitive to do a 1v1 away from the objective but hey, I'm having fun, sometimes I win, sometimes I don't.
sharp maple
What do you mean when you say bad
Like, people making the worst calls, people running away from Crystal and spreading out to basically die one by one instead of grouping up...
One person literally marked the enemy SAM as target to attack, right as SAM had Chiten and LB ready, getting themself and whoever listened to the call killed...
Then people were purposely throwing because of people they don't like and spamming emotes instead of playing.
sharp maple
How am I suppose to play with this happening
pseudo hamlet
square won’t do shit
sharp maple
There was games I did bad in too, but there was also some I was doing better than my team and they still couldn't follow up.
pseudo hamlet
Reports only make you feel better
Ranked makes players so petty
I blame being able to know 90% of the players you play with after a certain point
sharp maple
People will literally throw if they end up on team with somebody they don't like
pseudo hamlet
^
And it’s so easy to dodge
bad player playing x job?
Just play the same job if you can
Or don’t play the same job if a good player is playing it
So dumb
sharp maple
It's not even that either, like
they brag about being so good at CC yet if they truly are why aren't they carrying the said "anchors", they can't play without a full team of good players? Sounds like a skill issue if they can't carry that 1 anchor, whereas the issue last night was everyone was being an anchor, even the t100 players.
Simply because they don't want to play, they want to throw and spam emotes.
Just because they got 1 person they didn't like on their team, they decided they didn't wanna play the game.
Its so petty
Yet they'll act like the good guys if you confront them about it
Makes playing ranked such an unfun experience
I wish people would just play the game
neon scarab
i got to crystal in the first season and didnt play the other seasons because the rewards arent different
sharp maple
Crystals even harder to get now with the demotions
Along with most the good players quitting after s1
wheat cargo
i've never been a ranked person, i just climbed to crystal out of spite because some here complained saying that the ranked system was impossible and they deserved crystal after losing so much but were clearly making role based macro errors
and after that i decayed s2 for teh rest of the achievement rewards and called it a day
sharp maple
s1 and s2 crystal was easy, just get a lucky streak. But plat to crystal s3 and later you can demote from crystal to plat, so you have to have above a 50% Winrate to go up
Or at least win more than you lose
Lose streaks are punishing now
wheat cargo
i think i finished the season with like a 60% wr
but like i didn't really care too much
even after hitting crystal i had 0 desire to climb to top 100
sharp maple
I want it because a friend said I should go for it
And I hope I can finish out with it this season and be done with it
Then I'm gonna go back to grinding casuals for Alpha Wolf
I'm 65 wins from Arbiter atm
pseudo hamlet
Didn’t care to get it back
First time was kinda fun but now I don’t wanna take the mode that serious
sharp maple
I think the Conflict titles are okay
They definitely don't look as cool as The Arbiter or Alpha Wolf, or even Devourer
But they're a good achievement
I just want my t100 so I don't have to go for it again next season
So I can achieve all I wanted in the first grind
I would start Diamond next season which isnt so bad, but I still want to get t100 this one
hollow sky
crystal games were great yesterday
there was this mnk that I think was trolling though, name started with c
sharp maple
Nah, they were shit. Even Ni Xi said this.
upper cargo
Please, stop namedropping people
sharp maple
That's not a rule here 🙂
Also if it was, I believe its to not namedrop and roast.
Saying Ni Xi agreed the games were bad like I did, is not a rule breaker bro
This isn't revival, and if it was, people dont listen to that rule anyways
upper cargo
Lol
sharp maple
Think there was this one person who's name started with an L who always got away with that
But anyways
Nah, those games were awful
People didn't even know how to press guard
Everybody was too busy targeting whoever they wanted too
If they saw somebody they didn't like, they chased them everywhere.
Even when I was SMN, people chased me into spawn trying to kill me instead of focusing their bigger threats.
Only time you should ever focus a SMN is when they have LB or when they are on point and one of the only targets left, because SMN has very low kill potential compared to other casters or melees.
Not a very big threat
upper cargo
Have you tried better coping tools like writing in a diary or talking to a therapist
sharp maple
Have you tried not throwing games?
Ranked was great in the first 3-4 weeks this season, then it turned to shit
And still is
upper cargo
sharp maple
Why are you guys even here though, you didn't really talk here much until you saw I was here
In fact @upper cargo you went a whole 2 years without typing here, until you saw I was here
pseudo hamlet
This is the most interesting rivalry
upper cargo
Is it a rivalry?
sharp maple
There's no rivalry
pseudo hamlet
I don’t really care what it is ngl
sharp maple
Just petty drama
pseudo hamlet
It’s really weird ngl
upper cargo
I'm trying to ask this person to get help
But he takes everything like an attack
Haps 😔
sharp maple
Jamie you are asking me to get help because I said ranked games are being a shit show, I think you're the one who needs help bro
hollow sky
-_-
upbeat lotus
stop fighting with everyone
sharp maple
Tell your revival people to quit typing at me
pseudo hamlet
upbeat lotus
just block and move on
upbeat lotus
no reason to feed into something negative if it's not worth your time
upper cargo
pseudo hamlet
Ez clap
quick dagger
@upper cargo did you see that emma dude rainbow to machinist last night?
they were kind of playing like the endd
upper cargo
Wells aid
quick dagger
hope they can get touch with a decent machinist mentor
pliant bridge
upper cargo
😔
upper cargo
<@235138780766535680> did you see that emma dude rainbow to machinist last night...
They were really throwing huh
green tusk
Is this a nice friendly channel?
hollow sky
yes
sharp maple
Why not miracle of nature instead
pseudo hamlet
Can’t believe they nerfed it again
It actually feels bad to use now it’s at 10 talks
quick dagger
@hollow sky do you know any good dragoons on crystal i could learn from
ideally like #2 or #1
im really feeling a wall in my gameplay
quick dagger
that hime dude on dynamis just tells me to neck myself and keep boosting him when i ask for tips
quick dagger
russell bro is my god
pseudo hamlet
Yea that might be like 100 names
sharp maple
Achtuually, itz ninety nein, because #100 doesnt count
upbeat lotus
#0 only one that matters
sharp maple
Yes
Also I was being half serious because one day it didn't even display #100 for me
hollow sky
<@123007602765332480> do you know any good dragoons on crystal i could learn fro...
Me, i am the best drg world
I trained Doink
quick dagger
any tips for a lowly light party player like me?
having an awful time adjusting to soloq crystalline conflict
sharp maple
@upbeat lotus Is RDM the best Solo Q job, I've been told it was
quick dagger
crystal keeper was such a breeze season 1 and now i get bullied by people wearing rising conflict titles and stuff
upbeat lotus
<@86133824928378880> Is RDM the best Solo Q job, I've been told it was
In Season 1 CC
spiral brook
Black Mage felt pretty threatening in CC when I used that to get the Gloria mount
though that was season 2
hollow sky
any tips for a lowly light party player like me?
Disable your party list for more clear space on the screen
upbeat lotus
Yeah BLM basically got half reverted so it's not the most dominant ranged
exotic kayak
But unchecked BLM is still a big mistake.
sharp maple
In Season 1 CC
Whats the best solo q job now
sharp maple
But unchecked BLM is still a big mistake.
BLM in LB phase nasty
upbeat lotus
But unchecked BLM is still a big mistake.
any Ranged DPS*
upbeat lotus
Whats the best solo q job now
probably PLD/RPR/WHM still
exotic kayak
any Ranged DPS*
Well, yeah. But BLM in particular nukes like few other jobs.
upbeat lotus
SMN is more threatening in the current patch if unchecked
upbeat lotus
Along with being more splashable as a utility piece for any team comp, even hopeless triple rphys comps
BLM should always be swap bursted on whenever possible, no exceptions
pseudo hamlet
Who’s the dancer god
upbeat lotus
It made a notable difference doing that during Wolves League when my team was forced into a tiebreaker vs the only BLM team
sharp maple
BLM got nerfed, but its still got the highest damage in the game
pseudo hamlet
It lost apoc right
upbeat lotus
Yeah, they mostly nerfed their cc and defense
pseudo hamlet
I remember one patch it couldn’t die either
upbeat lotus
Apoc went from existing, to half potency, to deleted
pseudo hamlet
The freeze nerf was so good
upbeat lotus
Umbral Ice got reworked
pseudo hamlet
Good change
upbeat lotus
Arguably should've been release state
The best example of BLM is from Stormblood when it had access to multiple forms of crowd control but not all at once.
It should've been the blueprint for design given it uses all the same spells in a similar fashion
Haps
upbeat lotus
I don't think they will plan to give it much
pseudo hamlet
I don’t think I can handle another patch of just more mit on honing and not any actual fixes
upbeat lotus
The job is pretty good currently, just extremely team reliant
upbeat lotus
It was even good before the buffs
sharp maple
I also don't really understand solo Q term, I thought everybody solo Qd.
Q sync kinda nitty
upbeat lotus
They did when the reward was more desireable
pseudo hamlet
My dance partner has more fun than I do
upbeat lotus
exclusivity breeds desire
pseudo hamlet
I only have fun when people position like idiots and let me aoe all day
upbeat lotus
and i think the extra person on top of things makes the mode more frustrating if i'm being honest
ppl in feast were already upset at one "dead weight" person
now you have potential for more
pseudo hamlet
Feast was too intense
Playing healer was stressful as fuck and everything relied on you
Healing through culling time is a hell I wouldn’t wish on anyone
upbeat lotus
I enjoyed it for that reason, it was one of the few content types with consistent healer stress despite the amount of time that passed (outgearing)
pseudo hamlet
Hated it
upbeat lotus
If there was ever an aspect of XIV that really pushed healers to be healers, it was that
The experience wasn't universally pleasant and I can understand that side of the issue too
sharp maple
CC is way more casual than Feast, much easier. But at the same time the frustration still exists if people can't play right.
upbeat lotus
For me, it was worse when the healer and ranged had experience working together compared to mine
The difference it made to be on the same page in terms of line of sighting and using crowd control created a massive performance valley within the mid to high level play
which also contributed to low healer retention
neon scarab
am i bad for thinking drg and ninja are op
upbeat lotus
no
sharp maple
They are
upbeat lotus
NIN got repeatedly nerfed for a reason
DRG is the most influential damage stick in CC
sharp maple
NIN is a ranged and melee combined, even with the nerfs its still really good
upbeat lotus
SAM is fair
because the parts of it that should be busted aren't by design
such as Meikyo's effect not being very good vs common picks
sharp maple
SAM is pretty balanced, the ones who complain about its LB are the ones who don't pay attention to Chiten
upbeat lotus
No escape mobility
steep LB commitment
every melee noob stomps for sure, but some fall off a bit on average at higher levels but not greatly
sharp maple
Question btw
pseudo hamlet
Lb proccing off of lb is so unfair but it is what it is
sharp maple
If only 1 person hits my Chiten, should I LB them or save it
I find myself being overly careful about SAM LB now
upbeat lotus
depends on if removing that one person creates a good enough snowball effect
upbeat lotus
like if you do it to a BRD that is far away from the team and in their backline
that's bad
but if that BRD is closer to the team so they can eat 24k, it can be valuable
but I'd still opt to not LB a BRD in most cases if it was the only one to hit me
so it's always a judgment call if the solo target LB is valuable or not
sharp maple
I also uhh, got countered last night when I tried to SAM LB, the enemy DRK had LB and I went to LB them...They popped Living Dead soon as my animation started LOL
Was a fat RIP
upbeat lotus
you can still get kills if the 24k cleave would hit someone at 20k HP
upbeat lotus
normal
neon scarab
feels good to have the right feeling
i played whm and sam and couldnt really win then i made a dragoon and all was good
upbeat lotus
WHM is a little tougher than it seems
It's easy to get mad when you eat their laser or miracle of nature, but without those and no cure charges, they are very easy to take care of
neon scarab
i also played sage but that didnt go much better than the whm
i should level a ninja
upbeat lotus
Sage is very strong and has fight turning capabilities, but it's pretty tough to get used to
sharp maple
SAM and NIN are gonna stay my mains for a while, but DRG just feels uninteresting to me
Just feels like a mashing job
When I go for 1k caster wins I'm gonna do RDM and BLM
RPR is pretty fun too
upbeat lotus
Yeah I think any melee player will always dislike one of them while either being decently comfortable or enjoying others between their main and their most hated job
For me, I hate RPR but like all the others
DRG has been my PvP melee since 4.0 so I'm attached to it
austere narwhal
For me, I hate RPR but like all the others
Feel like RPR is just annoying
Won't win the match by themselves but be a pain in the ass constantly
upbeat lotus
I just hate the interaction of their Fear AoE (pulse AoE snapshot for the CC application) and what they have done to the metagame
I'm not a fan of certain utility or gimmicks being so attractive that the game turns into everyone needing those to be competitive in an even skilled environment.
outside of that, it's not as problematic but can still be generally annoying
sharp maple
RPR on C9 is great
Wait till 3sec til turbulence and pop LB on the enemies in guard, then guard when your animation frees you, and watch em fly up
sharp maple
Most waste miracle of nature
They'll chase people around and spam it on people who aren't even being focused
pseudo hamlet
Melee kit are so freaking strong for whaaaat
patent gazelle
That's not a rule here 🙂
Also if it was, I believe its to not namedrop and roas...
It is a rule here
sharp maple
Is it? But isnt it only for negativity?
You should be fine naming people as long as its not out of negativity, right?
patent gazelle
Yes
sharp maple
Then I'm good yis
amber escarp
It feels like I get WHMs who won't use lb if we're stuck in with a group of enemies and only use it to snipe kills
And my enemies get WHMs who use it off cd willy-nilly into us
pseudo hamlet
People use the lb wrong
And predictable
You can tell by the positioning they take they are just waiting for the second to lb
That’s why I’m always attacking whm from angles
Rarely get hit by lb when you do that
flint plaza
I love how BLM feels still strong in PvP even after the nerfs
it went from S++ to S. That's how it feels like
ocean frigate
It was better when you could perma lock an entire allince with ice over and over.
Now it's just big fire debuff ,stacking 3 ice its a shore just to force someone else to use purify.
pseudo hamlet
Fought a literal ice mage yesterday and it was a straight up pain in the ass
One finally dealt with him we won the game easily
flint plaza
I solo'd a sage and nin yesterday. It was hilarious
pseudo hamlet
But early in the game he would chase and freeze me
flint plaza
God I hope they shadowdrop job set recolours in the next patch
I really like the recolours
- we got entirely new weapons
the GNB weapon is fire
if they add a recolour of the shb blm job set I am gonna pog
sharp maple
Recolors?
Are we getting more stuff in the PvP shops?
Because I'm constantly maxed on Wolf Marks and trophy crystals are too easy to get
I want stuff to spend it on
velvet hawk
Hey guys can I get some tips and tricks for knowing what to do in a Frontline game and how to get kills and assists more consistently?
I just found out about the battle high mechanic
So I assume getting a ton of assists is the name of the game
native cloak
Just play ranged.
pseudo hamlet
I want stuff to spend too lol
flint plaza
Are we getting more stuff in the PvP shops?
we don't know but when CC got released they shadowdropped all the pvp sets. We saw them only in the trailer and people didn't really expect the sets.
I think they didn't even talk about them in the liveletter lmao
the only set we knew about was the series reward
pseudo hamlet
I’m not expecting anything besides the gear and new map
wooden grove
Hey guys can I get some tips and tricks for knowing what to do in a Frontline ga...
there is a pinned post in this channel to some pvp guides
velvet hawk
Thx
wooden grove
I really like the recolours
i wish they would do recolours of old savage job sets. like, A1S to A4S. all that is solo-able anyways, and they could really do a refresh. they're unique enough that people might want them, especially those who can't solo them unsynced. run recolours of their models for like 1 pvp series, do the A5S to A8S for the next pvp series, and so on. sprinkle in some actual unique gear sets here and there and they would be all set for trophy crystal rewards.
they don't even need to redesign any new gear models either because the models are all there. it'd be an easy win. and people can't really complain either because all the alex savages can be solo'd unsynced. it would just be another way for players to obtain the gear sets, but still "lock them" behind a higher skill play mode
misty cloak
Just give us vouchers for t100 to let us get old Feast sets
wooden grove
that would be nice too. there are so many creative and super easy ways to incentivize pvp players to continue their pvp grinds
super easy ways that would take minimal effort for their development team
sharp maple
Tbh its a lose lose
We want them to give us better t100 rewards but forget how much boosting will happen
People still wintrade today
And it would be way worse if better rewards existed
Season 20 of Feast for example, 70% of Primals board was boosters
So we could have better rewards, but then all the boosters coming back
pseudo hamlet
Well I don’t want them to give ranked better rewards at all lol
I just want casuals to have more content to do in pvp
sharp maple
Well there's Alpha Wolf
pseudo hamlet
Do people even care about titles
I actually wonder if people care about portrait rewards either tbh
wheat cargo
I did my dumb grind for a title already
I have the 10k fate title doing the same 2 fates 8.5k times im good tbh
pseudo hamlet
I’ll never change my title ever because my title is my favorite movie of all time
wheat cargo
At this point its casual play for other things
pseudo hamlet
Unless they make a millennium actress title I’ll never change
sharp maple
Crystal Keeper is honestly more impressive than Arbiter 1k wins but
While Crystals a skill title
Arbiter is a show of time investment
Alpha Wolf takes dedication
If you're not playing much PvP you won't ever get Alpha Wolf
You gotta spend time on it
But similar can be said about t100 titles, because these days t100 is kinda a joke
With the floor being 100 credit on Crystal for example
Anybody can get it
Just takes a bit of time
sharp maple
Tbh, in these days t100 doesnt prove much
Season 1 & 2 it proved a bit
But 3 and 4 is a joke
Just cool to have
The floor for t100 dropped significantly each season
From 3.8k in season 1 to 100 in s4
The floor for t100 in s1 is equal to or higher than the rank 1s this season
sharp maple
Honestly it should be
You'd be surprised how little budget YoshiP actually put into CC
Then also Ranked players who've been playing for a while, a lot of them become very uh
For lack of a better word, Toxic
They will stop mid game just to mark you ignore
Griefing the game
Happened to a friend of mine, and they're a T30 from S1
sharp maple
Idk if some of them realize
But a toxic community will kill itself over time
The last thing they should complain about is egos
Egos are a way to build confidence, and confidence creates better gameplay in the long run
The only time it becomes bad is if you become obnoxious with it
sharp maple
Yup
exotic kayak
I don't know what it is about them that makes them so cocksure that they know exactly how the match is going to go.
That they feel it's a better use of their time to spam the laugh emote at you.
sharp maple
They will lose literally 1 game and bitch about it
exotic kayak
Than, you know, playing.
sharp maple
Has happened since s1
Over time ranksters become very cynacle
They start to become very petty about small things
I would know because I'm similar
I know the ranked experience of games from other ones too and this community's ranked isnt much different
Still has toxicity and petty people
In fact when I started ranked on this game I was honestly complaining about nothing, but then getting to Crystal and seeing other people complain, they do the same thing so
It's just kinda everywhere in Ranked players
So honestly yeah, better to treat it casually
Because anyways...
Truth is, when Ranked becomes unfun, it's not even worth playing.
plain pewter
remote merlin
@vivid orbit shib bro
normal tinsel
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Ban Issued for Kae#5175
sonic mortar
normal tinsel
lost badger
wooden grove
good bot
anyway ranked cc queues are popping tonight on crystal dc!
except it's cloud nine at the moment, so
minor stirrup
remember to never lose it all, outside the walls
surreal tokenBOT
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Ban Issued for sage.#8214
fading finch
knotty mantle
the streets are littered with bodies
misty cloak
sage topaz
why is everyone getting banned?
normal tinsel
THIS ISA WESOME
sage topaz
I have a genuine question if you want to give another player advice on their performance in ranked cc is it still considered bad to do it in this channel or is it better to just DM them?
pseudo hamlet
Dm probably
Dropping player names just leads to other people jumping in and talking shit
This place hasn’t dissolved Into a cesspool of weirdos like the other ff14 discords ||yet||
sage topaz
neon scarab
This place hasn’t dissolved Into a cesspool of weirdos like the other ff14 disco...
Did u read ff discussion channel yet
pseudo hamlet
Oh I forgot
neon scarab
pseudo hamlet
I have Ffxiv discussion muted and I never go there
sharp maple
This place hasn’t dissolved Into a cesspool of weirdos like the other ff14 disco...
tell me about it, thats exactly where the banned ppl came from
sharp maple
Im alive
neon scarab
Next series reward looking kinda boring ngl
pseudo hamlet
I’ll have to see it in game
misty cloak
It looks like it's way more likely to actually be worn for more than a day
pseudo hamlet
I like the arch fiend set
It’s better now that everyone in limsa isn’t full of people using it
misty cloak
I like arch fiend too but honestly it sort of lends itself more to like, DRK or RPR
This new set seems more more neutral
neon scarab
What would be the most inapropriate job to wear the archfiend set?
wheat cargo
I have a genuine question if you want to give another player advice on their per...
if it was part of the discussion or someone asked for advice its perfectly fine to give it here
but say you just finished a game with that person pinging them to give them "advice" whether good natured or not can feel inflammatory
wooden grove
unsolicited advice is the worst advice 
sage topaz
if it was part of the discussion or someone asked for advice its perfectly fine ...
The inflammatory feeling I can't agree with if the person is really struggling and no one says a word. Thats why its better to just DM them.
wheat cargo
I think its fine to help people but sometimes the way advice is given
Is incomplete or is worded in a way that doesnt give positive criticism
If the person themself asks in here they started the topic i think thats more than fine
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pliant bridge
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supple sonnet
this shit reminds me off the good old days when everyone used to call eachother #1 in any pvp game...
merry rock
somber heron
i love minion pvp cosplay
upbeat lotus
Reminder that you can feature a rated reward system so long as you dedicate man hours to moderation. (No one wants to do this)
pseudo hamlet
!pvpaction starfall dance
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pseudo hamlet
No ranges?
patent gazelle
15y iirc
pseudo hamlet
Why is dancer range 15 and the other ranges are like 20 25
Mch is 25 across the board besides the tools and bard as well
exotic kayak
Mobility purposes?
DNC is by far the most mobile of the Ranged DPS jobs in PvP.
So they'd be extra annoying to fight if they could hit form the same range as BRD and MCH.
I'm spitballing here.
patent gazelle
Dnc is strong
exotic kayak
BRD only has a backstep for getting out of dodge.
patent gazelle
But its punishing
exotic kayak
DNC is much harder to play compared to the other two, yeah.
exotic kayak
But its buffing, AOE DPS, and playmaking potential is top-notch.
patent gazelle
exotic kayak
Good DNCs can wreck shop.
pseudo hamlet
That’s any job lol
patent gazelle
I feel like balance is really good rn
pseudo hamlet
I just want my skills to not feel like ass
If all I get is my contradance and honing to not make me feel like dick I won’t complain as much
I’ll take a nerf if my skills don’t feel like suffering to press
pseudo hamlet
Yes please
Why can I get cc’ed during a skill that takes forever to cancel
But it’s okay I’ll continue to drive the winrate down
They buffed the item pickup speed that’s a hidden dancer buff in my book
upper cargo
Starfall is 25 btw
wheat yew
Its just the most melee ranged job
dnc has always been designed like this for pvp
back in shb your step bombs were proximity based for dmg
so if you were going for a full tech step you would finish it right next to your targets
pseudo hamlet
Never played dnc in Shb
I played Astro mostly
Idk I really loved old Astro
New ast is cool but I old Astro was a healing god
patent gazelle
I remember playing shb dancer in frontlines
That was great
Even though it was a melee bomb
It still had a very wide aoe
😌
native cloak
I need an advice.
How does one stop/counter WHM in CC? They just keep nuking my team every 30-40 seconds with an AoE stun.
Getting Nature Ally on CD is also not the best fun.
Do I like, change to tank and try to keep them stunned myself? Also pick WHM?
rocky shale
Wiggle around and keep a small distance away from your teammates. WHMs always seek out the good spot to line AoE
Or if you’re a BRD, don’t hold back pressing the actions towards WHM. It has silence and bind just for a few second.
native cloak
Wiggle around and keep a small distance away from your teammates. WHMs always se...
That just means 4 people die instead of 5 and isn't exactly stopping them.
So just spam silence and hope for the best?
rocky shale
Or, if you want to tank, pick WAR
pseudo hamlet
You los the whm
rocky shale
You can Holmgang WHM if you’re close with your Allies
Hoping your party members will take notice that WHM is being dragged close to you
native cloak
You los the whm
I line of sighted WHM, he ulted my team, now what.
pseudo hamlet
Hold that
rocky shale
Plus, WHM LB doesn’t hurt much at all if you have purify ready
native cloak
I suppose warrior also might work.
pseudo hamlet
There’s nothing that magically makes whm not a threat
native cloak
Yes but having purify relies on my teammates having it at the ready, not me.
native cloak
I mean other Jobs have things that make them non-threats or at least easy to remove.
amber escarp
mark them when LB almost up?
pseudo hamlet
Yea that’s the most you be able to do for other people
amber escarp
also if you sit right behind the whm (away from your team) they have to choose between nuking your team and you
in lower ranks they might just solo LB you
pseudo hamlet
^
rocky shale
somber heron
crunchwrap supreme is the best player in q right now whoever you are ty
wooden grove
gg @misty cloak !!
ty for carry 
weak grove
went 5/7/21 on frontlines today
would that be considered a fail for the DNC that partnered you?
misty cloak
I think it more depends on the damage you put out
subtle hornet
With 7 deaths, that won't be much damage since that would wipe out your battle high
rocky shale
patent gazelle
more monk yeet moments
neon scarab
https://imgur.com/a/rVi9X84
Bruh u randomly win and lose sometimes its so dumb
torpid pewter
pseudo hamlet
Bare minimum pvp patch again
Don’t think I like the set
Looks really bulky and stiff
vast crag
I usually get it regardless, since my 1 frontline per day seems become a daily ritual now
spiral brook
I'll have to see how it dyes
I feel like the white will dye, but i wonder if the metal will also dye too
wheat cargo
Another coffer for me to have unopened
dark latch
Got excited about the PvP set then remembered I'm a Lalafell and it has big shoulderpads so it's gonna look fucking stupid on me
misty cloak
It does give me a souls-like vibe, so I like it
weak grove
...I think I'm a DNC main now
dreamy ridge
https://imgur.com/a/zdljPTv
Lmao get pushed off the edge
dreamy ridge
It does give me a souls-like vibe, so I like it
Nothing like the cryptlurker gears
misty cloak
TRUE
weak grove
ok, so I think I've established that DRK, DNC, and RPR are my mains now
wooden grove
Got excited about the PvP set then remembered I'm a Lalafell and it has big shou...
don't remind me 😭
rancid flower
That's... quite a bit. I might have to try DNC in PVP. As much as I love WAR, grinding out 20 malmstone levels in as many days is beginning to make me loath it
weak grove
as a casual pleeb, DNC is a lot of fun!
pseudo hamlet
playing dancer
wheat cargo
That's... quite a bit. I might have to try DNC in PVP. As much as I love WAR, gr...
this why you pace yourself on every grind you do or you burn out super fast
that said war is fine for pvp
it plays very different from dnc
heck every job can be hecking broken in frontlines
just play what you find fun
rancid flower
this why you pace yourself on every grind you do or you burn out super fast
That was the game plan back when the season launched. Do a FL or CC a day, more when I felt like it. I... didn't hold to that and now I regret it. And yeah, I LIKE WAR PVP, it's just had it's ups and downs on the grind. Like my first... 4 CC matches of the day I felt super squishy, getting wrecked barely doing any damage. My last 3 runs killed half thier team at once.
It's just very back and forth and a string of defeats gets under the skin
wheat cargo
i just stop whenever i lose to not tilt
somber heron
i remember when i played pvp
neon scarab
Warrior propably best of the tanks?
wheat cargo
best in what context
spiral brook
I like how PLD grabs people’s attention by just existing in frontlines
Like people still think I can cover cheese
Shield bash and Confiteor are also pretty amazing
neon scarab
in CC
wooden grove
wooden grove
Didn't even need to be tricked to share it here!! 
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upbeat lotus
Warrior propably best of the tanks?
No, not in any PvP mode really.
PLD is broken in small scale, DRK in large scale
Pre LB nerf, DRK was probably equal to PLD but for a different reason
All other blue jobs are enabled in small scale by PLD being in their comp. DRK is probably the one that does best without it right now, though WAR has great utility in a 90s comp that has good all-in or sustain such as AST/RPR/DRG/SMN comps
exotic kayak
WAR is still very strong though.
You can disrupt things like no one's business.
Biota is one of the best peeling and chasing tools in the game.
Primal Rend is an AOE stun on a 20 second cooldown that does super high damage during LB.
stoic elm
more of a setup unit than the traditional tank, but they still get better tanking actions than the average GNB
broken matrix
You use Meteodrive.
Direct hit! Player takes 1200 damage. So hard to take frontlines serious.
upbeat lotus
WAR is still very strong though.
It's not that WAR isn't strong but that its utility in the listed modes are outmatched by PLD and DRK. It's why WAR is rarely seen in tournament play and I was one of the few still using it during Wolves League. Being reliant on your 90s that locks you out of guard vs a region that uses mostly DRG kind of exposes their biggest flaw during combo scenarios, leading to the dependency I listed. Don't get me wrong, GNB suffers more from job dependency despite how powerful they are as the new damage blue option post DRK nerf, which is a shining point of WAR being more of an independent blue job with strong initiation and all-in tools to keep team momentum positive.
clever plover
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theres still about 10-15 spots left if anyone wanted enter
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NORTH AMERICA- RIVAL WINGS
Aloha! Blue here with your weekly Revival NA-RW Roundup! 🤠
New Year, new patch, new series, new rewards! But before the new lets talk about the old. 🎉
A BIG THANK YOU to the whole Rival Wings community! Together we got DAILY POPS for all of mogtomes, often almost 12 hours of multiple matches! Extra thanks to the PVPrimal community who pushed really hard for it! 
We're taking it easy this week with just one weekend event. Enjoy all the patch newness and we'll be back next week with our regular schedule! 
Saturday: Primal Wings - Behemoth Wolves' Den
https://discord.com/events/437345769956179979/1062098627448807544
sharp maple
Sadly no t100 for me this season, maybe next season.
I went on a lose streak too late in season and didnt play enough
short agate
It could pop in the last hours, theirs always next season tho!
sharp maple
I'm betting on next season, I fell quite a bit down
I was 100 credit from having a pretty secure spot but I didn't play enough for it, kinda took too many breaks and played way too safe early on instead of spamming games
short agate
I'm sure you'll make it next season, it also has the cool V instead of an IV this season
sharp maple
Yup
amber escarp
What is generally considered a safe rank
spiral brook
In what context
short agate
each data center is different so Im not sure
sharp maple
So somebody told me that Black desert online PvP is better than ffxiv pvp is this true?
That ffxiv pvp has "no competition" or "official leagues"
stoic elm
depends on many factors and if you want t30/t100. Usually away from the truncated(?) places, say from #100 to 90 its a singular win you'd want to stay away from there
so when the board does move, you have plenty of head space to stay on it
torpid hare
What is generally considered a safe rank
Do you mean at series end or in general? Early season t30 is safe to ride a probable t100 spot. Late season near finish you wanna be 80+ for a good buffer. I've gone from 67 to 80 this weekend alone from people squeezing in hell week grinds (while I did not play).
neon scarab
So somebody told me that Black desert online PvP is better than ffxiv pvp is thi...
BDO PvP uses some Fighting game mechanics
super Armor and stuff
never got into it since its so much p2w