discord-feedback

[timid pilot]

As for the older topic of aliases for faqs, the way kupo works (from what I understand) is that we'd need to make duplicate faqs to cover each possibility.

[tight tusk]

Ahhh, nvm then

[timid pilot]

I might look into editing the commandnames for some faqs to have more consistency

[tight tusk]

Sounds great

[timid pilot]

like some being plural and some not plural

like mounts and hairstyle being different when they could both be plural/not plural

[tight tusk]

Btw, @waxen root i475 weapon can be dropped from E4S

[timid pilot]

I'll take a look through the big list of faqs that I know for sure are from this server and put that somewhere to fix. Since there's no real edit formatting on kupo's website, and editing them through discord can be a pain

[tight tusk]

Thanks wynne

I feel that for gearing options that are obsolete-ish, they can be just left out of the gearguide

I feel that this might help make it fit inside a faq

[waxen root]

Really the only things I can't remember of the top of my head are the current item level requirements for the normal raids and MSQ dungeons

because once you get past those you're more or less home free

[tight tusk]

Focus on Phantasma/Allegory, Ruby Weapon, and Edenverse

I think that's for the players to figure out

We just need some quick info on where to get gear

[waxen root]

I know the first hard lockout for most players will be The Grand Cosmos since that requires... 430?

[tight tusk]

I don't think they need to know where to get 440 Ronkan

I can't remember off the top of my head

[timid pilot]

Some people never unlock Nuts since you need to do ARR+HW hunts to unlock them

and I still see a decent amount of people at 80 that aren't second lieutenant in their GC (Which unlocks hunts)

[waxen root]

Don't need 450 in the gear guide then i assume

[tight tusk]

440-450 can be removed

I would remove TEA and E1S-E4S all together

[waxen root]

already deleted TEA

[tight tusk]

This would remove a good 1/4th of the text

Nice

Can we go with wpn/armor/acc?

Or weapon/armor/acc

[waxen root]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

mods have the final say

[tight tusk]

The macro format is great, item level as section header then we have a list of options

The list need a cleaner format, to save word count and to make it easy to read

Don't want to have a faq that raises more questions XD

Actually, Industrial brought up something here

Do we have a faq explaining how savage looting works?

[waxen root]

nope

[tight tusk]

Item Level 500 is essentially a faq on its own

[waxen root]

so !faq gearingup and !faq maxitemlevel then?

[tight tusk]

(mods probably resent me now lol, I have added so many work for me... On a Sunday no less)

[waxen root]

oops

[tight tusk]

Not faq maxitemlevel, I am thinking faq savagelooting

Or faq savagelootrule

[timid pilot]

more work for us mentors tbh. we're the faq slaves for the most part

[tight tusk]

Savageraidloot

[tame osprey]

!faq savageloot

[ancient gale]

What floors of savage drop which items?

Info

E1S: (Belt/Earring/Necklace/Bracelet/Ring) x3
E2S: (Head/Gloves/Boots) x2 + Weapon Tomestone + Glaze
E3S: Head/Gloves/Boots + Legs + Twine + Solvent
E4S: Weapon + Chest + Random single weapon + Mount + Minion

[tame osprey]

like this but more details?

[waxen root]

yeah like how the weekly lockout work

[tight tusk]

Can we attach how floor lockout works

[waxen root]

and the books

[tight tusk]

And how chest works

[tame osprey]

Thanks @timid pilot

[tight tusk]

Btw, that faq probably need an update to E5-8S

[waxen root]

namely, explain that the drops are per full party, and if the full party have any characters who have already completed the instance that week, drops are nerfed or excluded entirely

[tight tusk]

Proposed addition to faq savageloot

Savage looting
Completing a Savage raid floor will spawn a set number of chest:
2 chests: 8 players have not completed this raid floor for this week
1 chest: 4-7 players have not completed this raid floor for this week
0 chest: 0-3 players have not completed this raid floor for this week

Players have 1 roll attempt per floor per week. On top of chest spawn, Page will be rewarded as first-time weekly completion reward of the raid floor.

If the player completed a higher floor, they forfeit their roll attempts and Page rewards for lower floor(s) of the raid tier.

[waxen root]

change the 0 to 3 or less players

also add you can't roll on loot after initial completion that week

[untold sequoia]

Alright i'm going to be honest, this is a lot of info and its clogging up the chat

[waxen root]

yeah sorry about that

[untold sequoia]

Pick some ideas, compile them and repost them

We don't want to have to scour through pages of text just to add FAQs

We'll try to add them all but its a lot of work, so pick the one you think is most important and we'll start from there

[waxen root]

Item Level 430:
Role Quest Completion (Weapon/ Armor)
Dungeons (The Twinning/ Akademia Andyer/Final Days) (acc)

Everything Past this point requires completion of the Quest: Shadowbringers

Item Level 460
Deepshadow Gear (Phantasmagoria) (Armor/acc)
Deepshadow Weapon (Eden 4 Normal 4 times/ 1000 Phantasmagoria)
Nier Alliance Raid: The Copied Factory (Armor)

Item Level 470
Augumented Phantasmagoria (Armor/acc/ Weapon)
Augument items obtained from exchanging
Nier Raid: Manufactured Coin
Nuts Exchange (Hunts)

Item Level 480
Neo-Ishgardian Gear (Marketboard/ Crafted) (Weapon/ Armor/acc)
Eden 5-8 Normal (Armor/ acc) (Weekly Lockout)

Item Level 485
Ruby Weapon EX (Weapon)

Item Level 490
Crystarium Gear (Allegory)(Weekly Capped) (Armor/acc)
Crystarium Weapon (Eden 8 Normal 7 times + 1000 Allegory)

Item Level 500
Eden 5-8 Savage (Unique Drop rules/ effectively weekly locked.) (Weapon/ Armor/acc)
Unique Savage Drop Rules! Do look them up if you’re planning to Savage Raid.
Books drop once per week, up to 8 needed for one trade in.
Crystarium Augmentation Items also drop.

Think this should be good for now, then.

[tight tusk]

Proposed addition to faq savageloot

Savage loot
Completing a Savage raid floor will spawn a set number of chest:
2 chests - 8 players have not completed this raid floor for this week
1 chest - 4-7 players have not completed this raid floor for this week
0 chest - 0-3 players have not completed this raid floor for this week

Players have 1 roll attempt per floor per week. In addition to chest spawn, Page will be rewarded as weekly completion reward of the raid floor.

If the player completed a higher floor, they forfeit their roll attempts and Page rewards for lower floor(s) of the raid tier for the week.

[fiery shuttle]

455 dungeon loot from the latest dungeon too

[tight tusk]

I made a mistake and edited my previous message, but here's a repost of the final proposal for additions toward !faq savageloot

[cloud cape]

it's useful info but it should probably be under a different faq than savageloot, since people mostly use that to check what drops where

faq savagelootsystem or something

[turbid kayak]

you probably want to add poetic gear too, so like !faq endgear
so you have both savage and augmented gear for bis

if thats needed

[untold sequoia]

This is only for level 80 gear progression, so poetic gear is irrelevant

[turbid kayak]

ah i meant allegory

swapped between allagan and poetic

[untold sequoia]

Its already there

[turbid kayak]

oh ok then

[smoky bridge]

What's wrong with mog media and eorhq to put them on the ban list?

[dense geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivmeta/comments/ccn9va/_/

[smoky bridge]

No surprises that it's that cult face highlander.

[smoky bridge]

Is Gposers whitelisted?

[cosmic drift]

What do you mean by whitelisted?

[little spire]

I assume by that they mean it isn't banned/it's okay to talk about

[untold sequoia]

Is there a particular reason it wouldn't be?

[little spire]

Because mods I assume?

[untold sequoia]

Like game mods or Discord mods?

[smoky bridge]

This conversation is beyond me now.

[untold sequoia]

Cal was being dumb

What did you mean by if Gposers was whitelisted though?

[smoky bridge]

They’re not affiliated with EorzeaHQ are they? So they’re okay to link around here?

These fan sites all look alike.

[scarlet kindle]

It seems to be a community so i personally don't see any issues with discussing them
They seem to have mentioned a reshade type thing on their website, which you are free to discuss as well but since it's technically against the tos it's an at your own risk kind of thing

[smoky bridge]

All right. Just making sure they’re not affiliated with any banned communities.

[scarlet kindle]

Not as far as i am aware

[obsidian verge]

how the heck isnt this an emote already

[ionic tide]

why would rump be a emote

[obsidian verge]

because people like me uwu

[mystic creek]

hi rump

[gloomy grove]

This also exists

[obsidian verge]

yea but its not

[smoky bridge]

@ornate pelican What about your own emote for a higher tier in the Patreon?

[ornate pelican]

We're starting to run low on slots so that could be awkward.

36 slots left

[ionic tide]

could be a limited thing

[gloomy grove]

I say hold a vote of some kind

[fiery shuttle]

Discord community events like emote design contests

[obsidian verge]

theres not really much competition involved if you make a good emote they'll add it

[deft sorrel]

You could make a terrible emote and we could add it

[timid pilot]

[compact vale]

Did someone say mayo emote

[timid pilot]

Please no, #archivedadminonly-staff-lounge already suffers enough

We can’t let you torture the masses

[ornate pelican]

[gloomy grove]

I mean I can make a Risky-chan emote if you wanna go that route

[ionic tide]

ill take the mayo emote

[pearl halo]

Wynne implied that my Louisioux emote sucks

[timid pilot]

Not sucks, just a bit scary

[velvet vine]

hmm

hi

[pearl halo]

#not-ffxiv-discussion or #general-discussion

[vagrant parrot]

!ahkmorn

command perhaps?

[ionic tide]

uh

what would it do

[ornate pelican]

Maybe we can do a contest for the best femroe emote.

[little spire]

Moenbryda or bust

[modest ruin]

Bust it is

[little spire]

[wise gulch]

or is this too big for an emote

[obsidian verge]

need artists permission

unless this is official art in which case what is it from

[untold sequoia]

Yeah, we're going to need a source

[wise gulch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

found it in another xiv discord i was in

[turbid kayak]

possibly made by this guy? https://www.artstation.com/asrielle

also found in: https://www.redbubble.com/people/asrielle/works/33005726-ffxiv-moogle?p=sticker

https://asrikins.tumblr.com/post/169681044236/i-apologize-for-the-lack-of-updates-i-have-a < but has a watermark

[ionic tide]

hes drawn the doll

already like him

[deft sorrel]

Again, we need the artist's explicit permission

[tight tusk]

Not sure if it means anything and relevant here, but I have used a banned word without knowing it is, apologies

Kupo worked and delete that word

[scarlet kindle]

That's what the filter is there for, no worries

[south quiver]

Is Kupo Bot offline?

[untold sequoia]

Yes

[smoky bridge]

How about we use those 6 slots, since there's 36, open to Patreoners and if they stop support, just disable/delete the emote? I dunno.

[cloud cape]

i mean, that's probably gonna make some people want to support kupo, and make the amount of patreons exceed the amount of free slots

[smoky bridge]

Yeah, that's why limit it to 6 or even just 5. Or make the tier $20 or something and make it permanent

[turbid kayak]

what if 200 people suddenly patreons then?

then there wont be any more spots

and, what is the reason to "reserve" emote spots, thats stupid, if you want to use your own emotes, get nitro.

if we are suddenly going to charge people 20$ a month for a few emote spots rather than just getting a 5$ a month nitro

also might want to remove other people's emotes too, cause that would be unfair to people who are patreons, cause they get it for free

[smoky bridge]

Why is everyone missing the part where I said just limit it to 5 or 6?

[turbid kayak]

limit to 5 people or 5 emotes?

[plain arch]

You can't limit emote slots to specific roles. It doesn't work like that.

[untold sequoia]

You can put a limit to how many people can subscribe to a tier on Patreon, which is what I think they're getting at

[ornate pelican]

You can limit a tier yes

[sage heath]

Yeah there's quite a bit wrong with that. It's impossible to limit emotes, and even if it was possible, I could use an emote right now, you can right click / open it in a browser, and then post it in your own discord and use it with nitro. Emote slots for patron support are a bit sketchy either way, though I think that used to be a thing for twitch subscribers before all of the discord changes went through. That, and the fact that we'd need permission for the commercial use of said emotes and it gets into weird territory.

In terms of reserving slots for personal emotes, I mean I suppose that could work given the number of slots that you can get with nitro boosting, but we'd have to bring that up with Ven or Eanae

[ionic tide]

you could also argue that you dont need nitro for it but if you could pay for this theoretical tier you can pay for nitro

so at that point just buy nitro

[turbid kayak]

buy nitro, unlimited free emotes

Ok so, if you only were on the ffxiv server, and you have 99 servers, and every server have 50 emotes each, that would be 4950 emotes that you get for just 4.99$ per month.

If you really want even more emotes, you can pay each server 1049,7$ per year, and for every server that would be 103 920,3$ per year for just 24750 emotes! so cheap!

[frigid shore]

Anyone have the AFK symbol (three legged chair) emoji that works at discord they can share?

[elder violet]

Added a bunch of updated icons for all classes and jobs.

Also added sprites for DoH/DoL.

[ionic tide]

cute

thanks fren

[plain arch]

[gloomy grove]

[fiery shuttle]

Can we have a local bap or spray emote i know its not ffxiv related but...

[plain arch]

[ornate pelican]

If you find us one we have permission to use.

[ionic tide]

theres an bunch in the balance

one second, ill go ask a mod

[compact vale]

We would need to ensure it is permission from the original author. If The Balance created them, yes that would be the original creator.

[ionic tide]

would you need an moderators approval or the owners/admins approval

[little spire]

Whoever made it specifically right?

[ionic tide]

if thats the case i have a feeling its not the balance unfortunately

[fiery shuttle]

Okay

Might as well make one myself

[polar wedge]

guys got a suggestion id like to make if this is the right place for it?

or an idea even

anyway just wondering since a certain world event aka the coronavirus is a huge topic of discussion as of late

would it be wise to have a separate chat channel for it so OT doesn't get overflooded?

only suggesting because one discord im in had the idea to do it so mostly just spitballing it here

[ionic tide]

this is a gaming discord

i dont think having a chat relating to covid19 would be suitable

[polar wedge]

ik was just a suggestion

i meant we are talking about it a fair bit in OT

as i said merely a suggestion

[dull sierra]

at that point, would the implementation of a current events channel work better then?

[polar wedge]

true good point

only suggesting because i did see some people in OT like "urgh not this again"

[obsidian verge]

might as well make it a politics chat but idk that seems to be the selling point of hank's server

[ionic tide]

i dont think that would sit well with the mods

or, anyone, really

[turbid kayak]

politics tend to be, aggressive, mostly this topic, for example in reddit, if you have seen which sub has been quarantined to be talked about.

[deft sorrel]

You're welcome to discuss current events whenever in #not-ffxiv-discussion, just not politics

[cursive junco]

i've been in a llot of politics channels in a lot of servers

it is always a garbage hell fire

[fiery shuttle]

Please do not 😩

[elder violet]

We will never allow political discussion on this server.

This is a welcoming, friendly & casual community. Political discussion nearly always leads to the opposite of that friendly behaviour, usually due to the course of discussion or others feeling that it gives them an excuse to berate & harass others.

Because of how COVID-19 is essentially connected to how governments are taking action to combat the pandemic, we won't be adding a channel dedicated to its discussion.

As long as it doesn't veer into political discussion (or anything else that probably breaks the rules in #about-this-server), it's okay to continue discussing it in #not-ffxiv-discussion

[smoky bridge]

Okay, so here's take three on Patreon tiers: $5, personal title along with the $1 Kupo Support title. You can limit it if you think too many people will jump on it. Like half of the $1 tier, so like 15.

[ionic tide]

god id want a personal role that you'd ping and ill send a duck

but uh

i dont think thats really a incentive imo

[untold sequoia]

Custom Roles isn't much of an incentive and we're not going to give out custom colours because that will just make it harder to tell who is staff or not

[smoky bridge]

Too simple. Okay. I'll be back in an hour with a better idea.

[ornate pelican]

I’ll try and think of something because I might need to upgrade his box soon to combat some of the command lag we’ve been seeing.

Which doubles his price per month.

[waxen root]

I'd say start up and run a patreon as a tip box to offset the monthly cost for now and think of stuff later

[ornate pelican]

We have a patreon

[waxen root]

Oh

Nevermind I'm dumb

[ornate pelican]

!faq supportkupo

[ancient gale]

Support Kupo Bot

Info

https://www.patreon.com/kupobot

[ornate pelican]

The cost would increase to $40 a month.

[waxen root]

Hm. I'd say to make so that if you want access to kupobot in your own server you'd have to pay but that's just me. not suddenly but with an alert, but I know a whole lot of people would be upset, maybe.

[ornate pelican]

I will never lock commands or access behind a paywall.

Besides Kupo is already on 17,000 servers.

[waxen root]

I see.

It's hard to think of things to give an incentive to donate when everything is already free.

[daring vortex]

User has a funny kupo bug

Cane =/= lance

Lance still worked tho

[untold sequoia]

Its not a bug

Its how fuzzy search works

The cane is actually called Deepshadow Signum

[daring vortex]

Thanks!

[ornate pelican]

[obsidian verge]

mobile users have to scroll to get to #general-discussion now
thats not good

[timid pilot]

You could just minimize channels you don't actively look at 🤷‍♂️

[obsidian verge]

it looks like #not-ffxiv-discussion was changed to #689372308782972935 and #general-discussion was changed to #not-ffxiv-discussion

its a bad change

[timid pilot]

Like I have all of #Important and #Feeds hidden unless they show new stuff, and most of #General is hidden besides a few channels

[obsidian verge]

theres no reason anyone should have to scroll down for general chat

[untold sequoia]

We're just trialing it out for now

[obsidian verge]

the results are in its bad

[timid pilot]

Let's try waiting more than 30 or so minutes and let others voice their opinions

I myself don't like the sudden change too much but I'm adjusting to it too

[gusty peak]

i prefer it

[strong sedge]

i dont like it

this is basically gonna make it so people will talk about ffxiv in offtopic

[untold sequoia]

We'll have to see how it plays out

Its too soon to make any real judgement on how things willl play out

[turbid kayak]

when non-ffxiv channels are taking over the ffxiv server

looks weird that #689372308782972935 channel is higher up than #general-discussion in an ffxiv server

[robust warren]

I don't like it.

It should be mainly a FF14 server, so the FF14 talk should be visible right from the get-go, without the need to scroll down for any other channels beside it.

[south latch]

Agreed, it's a ffxiv server, general chats should be below FFXIV chats.

[oak pawn]

if yall cant be assed to scroll down to find the offtopic stuff, then we gotta bring it up.

[obsidian verge]

that isnt the problem

[robust warren]

Rob, that isn't our problem.

If you guys have to resort to that,

then you need to apply a firmer hand on the main channels.

[untold sequoia]

We're just trying something new out

[crisp stag]

who thought its good idea to take offtopic higher

and ffxiv channels lower

[robust warren]

"Aufgeschoben ist nicht aufgehoben", Rob

[south latch]

Its not about being assed to do anything, blanket statements serve no one. This is feedback, is it not welcome?

[untold sequoia]

We won't be making any changes until the rest of the server has had their chance to give their own feedback

[crisp stag]

i thought this is ffxiv discordbefore its offtopic chat

[untold sequoia]

This is #discord-feedback

[crisp stag]

i mean the server

[untold sequoia]

This is just a trial

[elder violet]

Aye

It's just a trial

Let us know what you think but be constructive about it please

Looking for someone to pin the blame on because you don't like it isn't going to help

[robust warren]

Then I have to ask: Why making this? Is the off-topic talk in the xiv channels too much?

Because rotating the channels just to 'try things out' isn't really a solid reason to do such a thing

[elder violet]

Pretty much

That's why #not-ffxiv-discussion lived under #general-discussion for a good while

And #archived-lore-spoilers is being paid extra attention

[robust warren]

And that wasn't enough?

Okay

[elder violet]

Not only that, but also due to the addition of #689372308782972935. Since all discussion about the coronavirus disease belongs in that channel and nowhere else on the server, it should be prominent to ensure that other channels don't see inappropriate discussion.

Having two off-topic channels sitting under #general-discussion just wasn't going to cut it.

[tight tusk]

Rename #not-ffxiv-discussion to #general?

[eager stone]

If I may suggest, this would require reordering but I think grouping channels where discussions are happening/users are mostly talking at into a Discussion category would work better. Users don't have to scroll too far and it's easier to change channels if they want to change topics. For example, under Discussion, you would have #general-discussion, #not-ffxiv-discussion / off-topic, #689372308782972935, #video-games-general, and other channels that's active almost all the time and everyday.

I suggest this because personally I don't check #memes-and-shitposting, #109114589341306880 etc under it because people mostly only post links/pictures there whenever I check, so I don't stay there long and having to scroll through these channel to find the ones I frequent would be a daily annoyance.

This is just a feedback based on my personal experience and how I use this discord server. Other users will have different a experience/way of using the server than me so feel free to expand on this thought.

[oak pawn]

for that second part: you can just mute a channel you dont want to see and hide muted channels

or just mute it and then collapse the category, that way it will also not show up anymore

[eager stone]

That's what I already do yeah, following Wynne's advice earlier

[wise gulch]

Tl;dr
I strongly dislike this change.
In depth:
From a new player perspective it makes it seem as though #not-ffxiv-discussion is the main channel. Which appears fine except it's actually the off topic channel for us. Makes #general-discussion seem secondary in an XIV server. Seems weird at best and at worst makes mods and the server as a whole look really really dumb.

I can appreciate this is a move to try a curb off topic discussion in the channel, however, this is the wrong way to go about it. Both as a user/literally who member of this community.

My suggestions are,
Revert this change.
Make a faq/channel explanation/landing page of sorts. So that when people join the server they have a good idea of where to go. I've personally had decent experience with an emoji "unlocking" the rest of the server just like role selection.

Have a redo of your moderators. Hard to do without statistics but get rid of the ones who aren't doing anything. For example the ones that don't check the main discussion channel. Like I understand people will have their preferred haunts but it's the most active channel. How often do we get a "mods asleep" joke but there is like 8 of you online? I understand some people prefer to stay behind the scenes but still, the presence is never seen and never felt.

P.S. You can tell which mods are much more combative against people and the actual feedback they are providing. That's a bad look.

[elder violet]

Have a redo of your moderators. Hard to do without statistics but get rid of the ones who aren't doing anything. For example the ones that don't check the main discussion channel. Like I understand people will have their preferred haunts but it's the most active channel. How often do we get a "mods asleep" joke but there is like 8 of you online? I understand some people prefer to stay behind the scenes but still, the presence is never seen and never felt.

P.S. You can tell which mods are much more combative against people and the actual feedback they are providing. That's a bad look.

We had moderator applications not too long ago, and removed inactive moderators.

Regardless of how many moderators we have, or how many are online, we aren't always going to be focused on a particular channel or even on the server. That's why the moderator role can be mentioned, to get our attention to something. Alternatively, you can DM us or mention us individually. If you notice something that breaks the rules and we aren't aware, make us aware.

To say we're never around is simply incorrect.

[bright bison]

Yeah, I really do not like how the channels are sorted now

[oak pawn]

I know that you mean me with that part so lemme give you my side of that:
Not too long ago, people were complaining about the offtopic in #general-discussion . People said we should bring up the offtopic channels to combat that since a lot didnt even know our offtopic section even existed.
At that time, there wasn't really anyone voicing their opinion against it so eventually it was decided to compromise and bring up the offtopic chat alone into the XIV section. This improved things a little.
Right now the entire offtopic section is brought up and the exact opposite is going on now. other voices pop up wanting it to be back down again. You just cant make it perfect so everyone is happy, which is exactly why testing stuff happens.

Also please remember that all the mods here are volunteers and (some) have a life outside of FFXIV. We can't always scan all the channels, be always around just because we are online etc. We also like to have discussions in certain channels, do other stuff on our own or are at work.
And when we have mod applications open for over a month and barely anyone cares to apply, then we can't really boost our numbers either.

If something pops up, please simply ping us. Someone will be there right away

[wise musk]

Was just about to say the same thing....with this being the discord for XIV it feels weird seeing the off-topic channels at the top? Not that it's remotely hard to scroll down once but still feels weird. Also the last time mod Apps were open wasn't it only for overnights?

[pearl halo]

yes. JP timezone

[south quiver]

I'm kinda digging this change

The ffxiv section is so long that it kinda buried the other sections. The way it is now you can see general and the top of the XIV section very easily on mobile.

[ornate pelican]

I have some ideas on some more splits and I’ll likely want to put ffxiv back on top.

[wise gulch]

So the testing and compromise I completely understand that. People can whine or complain over literally any change.
Any sensible person understands that people on the mod team are doing this stuff literally for free. Expecting or demanding them to be around all the time would insane to put it gently. I think most people can agree on that. My point was more there can be a handful of people with green dots instead of mobile icon or the yellow/red not available but they like to stay behind the scenes. Ofcourse like Ven mentioned they could be "online" but not looking at the channel or even this server especially not if they have another game open (if they have that enabled). Im of the opinion that moderators and the like should be a part of their community instead of being detached in a sense. Just to be clear that isnt me asking everyone to start posting in every channel all the time either. Like pvp channel isnt going to have the same amount of discussion as XIV discussion does, simple as that.

For mod apps is it possible to have kupo do automated messages about it so more people know about it in the future?

Like Angry mentioned on mobile it is easier to see the other channels now. Maybe we should move some of the channels from under the FFXIV category to the Content category. Videos-Streams and the Trivia channels as an example.

[ornate pelican]

Yes I will do more reorganization tonight so hold tight please. It’s a bit hard to do right from mobile.

[deft sorrel]

Last time we did mod apps it was in #announcements...

[pearl halo]

yes for overnight u.s. jp/aus time zone

[untold sequoia]

All important information is posted in #announcements, we don't need Kupo to repost it when #announcements is enough

[deft sorrel]

It lights up maybe once or twice a month. The onus is on the individual to keep up with server events and changes. We cannot do @ everyone or here every time there's some important. The server is literally too big, it'll crash on the spot from everyone responding.

[pearl halo]

Also you can have certain channels send push notifications

[wise gulch]

Again that was just a suggestion. I can see from your responses why it wouldnt work. I know personally I have the #important category muted/collapsed. I dont interact there enough to have it. Mostly what's there is you guys hate politics (server killing fighting can happen) and kupo updates. While I appreciate Kupo I dont really use it for much.

[timid pilot]

Kupo seems to be dead, if that’s not planned.

[untold sequoia]

!faq dancerbis

[timid pilot]

I tested earlier in #kupo-bot-spam

But it looks like he went back online?

[untold sequoia]

Probs just Discord having some API errors

[ornate pelican]

I've changed the order. Let me know how it looks please.

[south quiver]

Perfect

[wise gulch]

I like this. And on mobile the General Category isnt buried

[wise musk]

Can confirm that on a tablet it's easy to see the XIV section and General now

[south latch]

Looks good

[gusty peak]

oh yeah this is great

i like this order a lot

[polar ingot]

hello, someone can help me for 50 stage of palace of death ? im on moogle

[waxen root]

#questions-and-help

This is feedback

If you want help go to #questions-and-help or your local recruitment chat down below

[pearl halo]

I'm putting this here because I think i'm not the only one getting really stressed out by the topic and I understand a lot of self guidelines are needed to be discussed for folks on it but I wanted to suggest maybe there be a channel to talk about it for people who feel the need to talk about it at length. I'm not talking about "oh my work sucks because of it" because of course we need to commisserate about that kind of stuff, etc but like talking about protections and discussions I would really like to not be smacked in the face with it everywhere. i need a break sometimes too, but I love my fellow ffxiv community and i wanna still socialize, especially right now.

[umbral fog]

we already have a channel for it

#689372308782972935

[pearl halo]

Ok. great. sorry I kinda glazed over it i guess

[elder violet]

That is the only channel where discussion of coronavirus is allowed, FYI.

[elder violet]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-got-anymore-dave-chappelle-itchy-gif-14658213

Y'all got anymore of those animated emoji?

We've got ~230 slots to fill!

If you've got an idea for an emoji or have one you'd like to see on this server, just remember to provide a source or permission from the creator.

[thorny lantern]

The headpat emote from the balance! I can try and contact them for permission or i can ask them where they got it from.

[pearl halo]

That's a lot

[obsidian verge]

are any of the ffxiv line stickers animated

[pearl halo]

there should be a #hotbars channel. it's a common enough topic and worth having a channel just to post pics of hotbars/hotbar ideas

[strong sedge]

Call it HUD

And make it about the whole UI

It'd be pretty cool

[pearl halo]

yeah maybe it should be a general #hud channel

[wise gulch]

When FF7R launches will #video-games-general be enough to contain it?

If not maybe a dedicated channel for it. Maybe for like a month?

[ionic tide]

it'll probably be enforced into #video-games-general if not #not-ffxiv-discussion

[pearl halo]

I vote that #FFVIIR gets made and I become a temporary mentor on that channel

😌

no

^

[wise gulch]

Assistant to the moderator team

[eager stone]

I'd like a hud channel 😮

[obsidian verge]

i just realized isnt with the rest of the yoshi p emotes?

[cosmic drift]

Hey friends, the mod team had an internal discussion regarding some support for a specific channel for posting hud layouts. They have come to the conclusion that there isn’t currently enough interest or traffic to warrant adding (and moderating) a new channel for hud layouts specifically. For the time being, please feel free to share your hud layouts in #ffxiv-screenshots.

Re: https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/471887666946768896/693212611377889281, https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/471887666946768896/693310155705810974

[cursive junco]

glamour channel when

is there some position the staff has taken against adding one

and if so, why

[scarlet kindle]

There is currently not enough demand for a specific glamour channel, but #ffxiv-screenshots can cover you pretty well

[elder violet]

We're not against adding more channels, but we don't want to add more channels than needed if it can be helped; to avoid having channels not enough people use after a short burst of activity, having overlap with other channels, but mainly to keep the channel bloat to a minimum.

However, we can always have a quick poll to gauge interest and/or trial new channels.

We also don't want to compete with other Discord servers which cover specific things pretty well already, such as The Balance for class & job specific optimization and theorycrafting. Or the Eorzea Collection for all things glamour related.

[pearl halo]

Ven

Temporary FFVIIR channel

[ornate pelican]

We will likely have a FF7 channel just like we had a FF15 one.

[elder violet]

#694581845949415524

[obsidian verge]

i think we should use the official abbreviation FF7R

[pearl halo]

I think we shouldnt

[cosmic drift]

-1 for ff7r

[deft sorrel]

I'm only disagreeing to be contrary

[fiery shuttle]

i just want to say the server icon

is beautiful

have a nice day

[pearl halo]

the server banner and icon

its pure art

[gloomy grove]

kek

[hollow anchor]

im super confused, is that discord's apirl fools or a bot going off in #general-discussion

[gloomy grove]

Quick Deep Fry the banner and icon

[ionic tide]

can i ask who made this beautiful icon and banner art

[untold sequoia]

Eanae did

[ionic tide]

eanae ily

[cunning berry]

Petition to make the icon/background permanent?

[ruby nexus]

[hollow anchor]

Allow the bot in #rants

[gloomy grove]

Nah I say only #not-ffxiv-discussion

[wise leaf]

how come "cum" and "rape" are censored/get you warned but "retarded" is not?

[elder violet]

Is this #retired-eu-datacentres theorycrafting the filtered words 2.0?

I don't want to say "that how it be" and be done with it, but all three of those words do notify the mods, because context matters.

[forest sluice]

is it possible to mute the bots?

[pearl halo]

no

[wise gulch]

Thats a very good answer Ven

[deft sorrel]

Keep in mind that a lot of stuff on the filter is because Discord told us to do that. Sexually inappropriate language, racial slurs, and hostile language are all things that Discord requires us to police for us to keep Partnership.

[timid pilot]

pls make the April Fool's logo an emote ❤️

[hollow anchor]

can we get a channel where the uwu bot is allowed in?

[forest sluice]

disappointing and I don't mean mute kupo bot, but the other chat bots that are going around in the FFXIV chat

[untold sequoia]

Its a webhook so no you can't mute it

But anyways April Fools is over so /shrug

[eager stone]

Can the uwu bot be added to #rants

[lofty stratus]

I love the uwu not

Bot

Just type without trigger words idk

It’s cute

Oh ur not complaining my bad

[split totem]

Can we change the Lore Spoilers back to the april fools name? 😮

[untold sequoia]

Sorry, there is only enough money in the budget to hire Professor Rommy for the one day

[simple meadow]

How to invite people?

[timid pilot]

https://discord.gg/ffxiv

link can be found at the bottom of #about-this-server

[simple meadow]

Thanks

[hollow prairie]

Hallo.

Hanku would like this emote to be added to this server.

Thank you very much.

[hallow yacht]

I would like to get UwU bot in rants channel, so i can go "Wants OwO"

[untold sequoia]

Going to need a source on the emotes

And no

[waxen root]

Those are from The World of Final Fantasy iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5DtQoIYIk

[flint coral]

I added the role and it gave me access to #doh-dol-lounge ? (not Healer lounge)

[modest ruin]

We are still setting those channels up so they aren't available to the public yet

[umbral fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/226353385706618880/696207438147223562/unknown.png can has as emote?

[eager stone]

[elder violet]

Maybe

It's time for a purge

[umbral fog]

does discord have an emote usage, like twitch does (or atleast i think it does?)

[elder violet]

No

But emoji are searchable

[tame osprey]

you can purge this i think. nobody seems to use it T_T

[elder violet]

So you can sort of guage usage that way

[umbral fog]

true

[eager stone]

Noo don't purge

[pearl halo]

Just a couple emotes no one ever uses

[tame osprey]

yes please purge

[pearl halo]

Useless emote

Non related to ffxiv

[ionic tide]

infact

who is that supposed to be

[gloomy grove]

A few more

[pearl halo]

All the dol/doh sprite emotes

[eager stone]

Keep pls

[gloomy grove]

I forgot we even had dol emotes

[pearl halo]

Proof that they're useless

[gloomy grove]

My memory is notoriously bad tbf lol

[elder violet]

I'll go through them all tomorrow

But keep in mind some of them, like the sprites, are newer

[pearl halo]

But what are they for

also

Dont delete my emotes

Theyre the best ones here

[gloomy grove]

I say delete one of the cleaves

They're the same

[elder violet]

Shitpost in #not-ffxiv-discussion, not here

[obsidian verge]

if we delete i riot

[elder violet]

Removed a bunch of emoji. All the sprites and some random unused/little used ones.

Plenty of slots for new suggestions! Both static and animated emoji!

[pearl halo]

Cloud bro explaining

[cosmic drift]

Is that your art?

[turbid kayak]

did the follow messages for announcement/tranlations per hour increase?

[dense geyser]

It's still 10

[quaint basalt]

Didn't know where else to post this - but in FAQ on Reddit there's a repeat in the What is endgame like? answer:

Endgame is really whatever you want. There is high end raiding, master trader crafters and gatherers, Housing, Roleplay, a really great glamour system. Endgame is really whatever you want. There is high end raiding, master trader crafters and gatherers, Housing, Roleplay, a really great glamour system. Options are pretty endless.

[gloomy grove]

Leveling everything to 80 and getting all the extreme mounts also counts

[craggy breach]

I’m a completely new player. I just got the game a few days ago. Level 11 Thaumaturge. Completely new to discord too. Just saying hello!

[elder violet]

o/ Feel free to drop by the general chat channels, #general-discussion & #not-ffxiv-discussion

[tight tusk]

!faq gearguide

[ancient gale]

Gearing up at Level 60 (Updated Patch 3.5)

Info

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/5p72tj/how_to_gearing_up_at_level_60_in_35/

[tight tusk]

This is very obsolete...

[elder violet]

!faq edit gearguide "Gearing up at Level 80" "Level 80 Gear Guide - consolegamewiki"

[ancient gale]

Success!

Edited command gearguide, Kupo!

[elder violet]

!faq gearguide

[ancient gale]

Gearing up at Level 80

Info

Level 80 Gear Guide - consolegamewiki

[elder violet]

!faq edit gearguide "Gearing up by level" "Click on a link below to view the gear guides on consolegamewiki.

Level 50
Level 60
Level 70
Level 80"

[ancient gale]

Success!

Edited command gearguide, Kupo!

[elder violet]

!faq gearguide

[ancient gale]

Gearing up by level

Info

Click on a link below to view the gear guides on consolegamewiki.

Level 50
Level 60
Level 70
Level 80

[elder violet]

@tight tusk There ya go 🙂

[tight tusk]

🎆

[pearl halo]

[obsidian verge]

glamor mentors should be a thing i think theres enough demand to get help from people to make good outfits in a dedicated channel

[deft sorrel]

Cool I'm gonna need to see a portfolio of 3 glamours on every race and gender each before that can be approved.

If you want a glamours mentor, they need to be able to help everyone. Not just female Miqo'te, Au Ra, and Viera

[obsidian verge]

glams dont change cause of race, its way too arbitrary to show the difference of a glam on a hyur and an elezen

[turbid kayak]

i wouldnt agree to say that the 2b outfit looks both as good on a female elezen and on a male hrothgar

[obsidian verge]

but the pieces are the same

[neat umbra]

But the glamour can look entirely different on other races and/or gender.

[autumn parrot]

Lalafell for example won't be guaranteed to look good in something that looks good on miqote

The pieces might not even look the same

[neat umbra]

There's also, for example, cosplay glamours that only work on certain races/genders because they use RSE gear, so you'd have to figure a workaround for other races, etc.

[mystic creek]

Hi, hello there. If I may chime in there are absolutely some cases of racial changes on various gear and there are just plainly glamours that do not work for certain races cause of various reason. Equally so there are gear that does not change. It is an art to find the right combination. Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

[turbid kayak]

obligatory video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0FDjFBj8o

[cosmic drift]

Refrain from shitposting please

[obsidian verge]

even so
lalafells and hrothgar are totally capable of imagining how glam pieces would look on their characters or just using kupo bots itemglam command

[autumn parrot]

That sounds like the mentor role isn't needed then since you can ask literally anyone for ideas and do that very thing to check

[obsidian verge]

the mentor part comes from people who know the names of peices other people might not or to match a piece with the theme of an outfit

[autumn parrot]

This server is definitely big enough that designating mentors like that for glamour isn't really necessary

At best you could already count on current mentors in other fields to pick that up

[obsidian verge]

i still think theres enough demand for a glamor channel

[pearl halo]

https://discord.gg/nQFx8r

there's Eorza Collection server

[obsidian verge]

[pearl halo]

that's a personal problem

😔

[deft sorrel]

Mentors are expected to be knowledgeable about the topic they're mentoring in. We would definitely expect a glamour mentor to know how pieces present on multiple body types.

[strong sedge]

i want a glamour channel

[waxen root]

#ffxiv-screenshots

[strong sedge]

thats not the same

thats an image dumping channel

theres nowhere to discuss fashion

thats like having a combat channel thats only parse dropping

[compact vale]

A glamour channel has been discussed before: https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/471887666946768896/693894062440316979

[obsidian verge]

there clearly is demand for it
no one opens #ffxiv-screenshots to talk about outfits

[strong sedge]

well heres to hoping people dont just post to screenshots then leave

like most usually do

[turbid kayak]

You could also use #general-discussion to talk about outfits

[eager stone]

I've brought up suggestion for a glam channel back in september as well (no response then). Like people here have said, #ffxiv-screenshots isn't really that active since most people there post their image and then don't check it again, and #general-discussion moves too fast and it often has multiple discussion going on at the same time that any glam discussion either gets buried or the topic changes. There's a lot of clothes in the game and there are some hidden gems that drops from dungeon, it would help to have a dedicated channel for it for people to share glam ideas, help finding glams, and comment one each other's glam. If you guys still don't think there's not enough demand for it, then maybe we can have a temporary channel to test it first?

[fiery shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/686296247446929668/700062548812365924/Titan_grin.jpg

titan smile

[wise gulch]

^

[fiery shuttle]

made with concept tools matrix, moving titan's face

[cosmic drift]

Granted

[waxen root]

[pearl halo]

[gloomy grove]

[fiery shuttle]

ty

[thin oxide]

[plain arch]

[untold sequoia]

Alright I feel like thats enough emote spam

[woven osprey]

Idk if the is the right channel but I'm having technical difficulties with the Kupo Bot

I know what my character name is and I'm spacing it correctly

And I've had this character for a couple months if that matters

[umbral fog]

i answered you in #kupo-bot-spam

[untold sequoia]

Did you do what Kael suggested in #kupo-bot-spam?

[woven osprey]

Can I link multiple characters to it

Like if I have alts

[untold sequoia]

No

It'll replace whichever one you linked last

[woven osprey]

Ok

Well then

Looks likes i"m keeping my main linked

[tight tusk]

Do we have a Faq on how to upgrade classes to jobs (lvl 30 and finished Slyph Management) and a list of classes and what jobs they can become?

[timid pilot]

First part, yes, second part no.

!faq job

[ancient gale]

How do I unlock my job?

Info

To unlock your class' job you need to be level 30, complete all of your class quests and the main scenario quest 'Sylph Management' (lvl 20 quest) to be able to pick up your job unlock quest. Once you've done the initial unlock quest, you will be given a soul crystal which you must equip to become your class' job.

[tight tusk]

Is !myclasses a valid/functional command?
Nvm, I was being an idiot

[turbid kayak]

Congratulations on the bot verification.

[mystic creek]

^^ I still need to do mine but I am iffy about them wanting a copy of my license >_>

[lethal crane]

requesting this as omegabruh emote

[bitter scroll]

Yesss

[pearl halo]

Put a grin on it so we can have :omegalul: as well

[wise gulch]

[plain arch]

That was always a godawful meme

Like not even funny, not even creepy, just... 'who thought this was a good idea' godawful.

/opinion

[pearl halo]

Nice

[lethal crane]

might as well, requesting this as omegalul. this one is better

[sage heath]

What even

What are those?

[cosmic drift]

-1 for omegalul

[sage heath]

Well, first one isn't bad

[timid pilot]

[pearl halo]

[cosmic drift]

Thanks for the suggestions

[lethal crane]

2nd one only exists due to inko suggesting it

my apologies

[pearl halo]

Repost for glam channel

https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/471887666946768896/700148017726226491

[waxen root]

It's been asked before, the answer is there's already dedicated discords for this kind of thing and we're kinda bloated on channels at the moment iirc

[untold sequoia]

Just use #ffxiv-screenshots

[waxen root]

be the discussion you want to see

[waxen root]

Just want to say, it feels weird knowing the subreddit is acknowledged by the FFXIV team, haha.

I know they read it but still it feels weird

[pearl halo]

Crystal Exarch's face shouldn't be considered spoilers anymore. we are well past the point of that being relevant

[elder violet]

we

Including new players?

[plain arch]

Huh.. one of my pointing emotes is gone. WELP can't do that reaction. But I digress, what ven said. There's a huge influx of new people. And we're ALWAYS telling people to go through CT, partially for alliance roulette. Sooooo... yeah.

[deft sorrel]

CT is about to be mandatory

With the coming patch

[plain arch]

Wait back up, I thought that was a meme. That's confirmed?

[arctic flint]

Set time for spoilers to not be considered spoilers anymore

I advocate 7 months

Ok maybe 2 thats a bit much

[kind gate]

It doesn’t mean all new people are gonna be at Shadowbringers already

[untold sequoia]

Why 7 months though?

[arctic flint]

Copyrights 70 years

And I’m too lazy to think of other numbers

[untold sequoia]

Yeah ok

Since it needs to be said

This is a serious channel

Please give serious suggestions

[arctic flint]

2 months then?

Thats when a update usually comes out right?

.1/.2 etc

[untold sequoia]

A new player going st average speed will be hard pressed to finish ShB by then

[plain arch]

An arbitrary time limit isn't going to work, either, for that exact reason. Some things kind of just.. happen, sure, because the vast majority generally don't mind (see previous expansions that we specifically burn through now, primarily stormblood) or aren't significant enough to really matter (such as discussing Primals).

[untold sequoia]

And the issue will just compound itself as more expansions come out

[arctic flint]

2 months feels like more than enough time to catch up personally

[untold sequoia]

From level 1?

[pearl halo]

i would love expansion-specific channels but good luck enforcing that

i also agree there are probably too many channels

but ff14 is a big game

[arctic flint]

Yeah

[plain arch]

That's based on opinion. Not everyone can play 7 hours a day.

[arctic flint]

How do we decide what the “avg” player is then

Poll?

[pearl halo]

you might be able to partially enforce it with roles. at least then you'd have to opt-in rather than opting-out

[little spire]

That sounds like a clusterfuck

[arctic flint]

Yeah role bloat is ugh

[pearl halo]

i mean, it absolutely is

[little spire]

Also I'm not sure how those roles would actually prevent spoilers

[pearl halo]

but the situation is a clusterfuck itself

well the idea is

[untold sequoia]

Well currently we just don't bother thinking about how quickly the the average player gets through the game by just having the spoiler be permanent

[pearl halo]

opting-in is harder than opting-out

[untold sequoia]

Plus we have a constant influx of new players

[plain arch]

To my knowledge the general idea of how 'more channels' is discussed is best described as 'look at the list, we have enough as is'

[arctic flint]

Wouldnt that mean you’d just have to spoiler everything post arr

Literally everything

[little spire]

Pretty much Eanae's thoughts Doom

[arctic flint]

Plot wise

What if new players had a separate novice channel?

[pearl halo]

so if you had expansion specific channels, and then roles for completing each msq, it could sorta work. but again, there are problems beyond this

[arctic flint]

With access to the main one still

[pearl halo]

biggest problem is the in-between msq stuff

[arctic flint]

But also their own hidden one to not have spoilers flung around

[untold sequoia]

So they shouldn't be able to read the main chat in fear of spoilers?

[little spire]

The issue is when you have 5 people talking at once with different progression through the story Mega

[untold sequoia]

What would be the point of #archived-lore-spoilers then?

[arctic flint]

Potentially

Yes

You cant appease everyone

[plain arch]

Here's the idea. Ask yourself this question.

"Will people care if this is spoiled? Was it a BIG DEAL when it actually happened?"

If no, you're probably in the clear. If yes, then odds are it's a spoiler. If you're not sure, either dodge entirely or err on the side of caution.
If you choose to not think about this for more than five seconds because EFFORT, you're just being an ass.

[pearl halo]

i would think that having expansion-specific channels would just replace #lore-spoilers, but again i don't think it's a great idea, just an idea

[arctic flint]

Either make everyone else regardless of old or new spoiler 90% of plot when discussing it which is pretty annoying

or get that subset of people into a spoiler free channel for a minimal amount of time

[little spire]

Right Doom sure. I think ||Exarch being G'raha|| was a big deal when it happened

[plain arch]

Precisely

Especially because he was fucking GONE for lord only knows how long.

[little spire]

Huh, I thought you were arguing to remove it from being a spoiler Doom

[untold sequoia]

We're not segregating new players from the main chat

[elder violet]

Thanks for bringing it up.

Generally, things that include unremarkable content (e.g. a tree in an expansion zone) should not be considered as a spoiler. This also goes for anything disclosed officially, such as in patch notes or on a live letter stream provided those things are still considered unremarkable, and not things like unexpected character appearances.

For anything else that could be or definitely is a spoiler, spoiler tags should be used. If you're ever not sure, err on the side of caution and spoiler tag it anyway.

I'll make sure the other mods are aware of this.

https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/471887666946768896/660879711911804928

[arctic flint]

Theyd still have access to the main chat

Theyd just have to warrant the risk of being spoiled

[plain arch]

No, I'm for that one, myself.

[untold sequoia]

So they won't be able to read it then?

And once again

[arctic flint]

What no

Thats not what I’m saying

[untold sequoia]

What would be the point of #archived-lore-spoilers

[arctic flint]

They can make the choice

[untold sequoia]

They already get to make the choice

But instead of it being the main chat its #archived-lore-spoilers

[arctic flint]

having to go to a different channel just because your discussion has a tidbit of future lore in it sounds annoying

[pearl halo]

what even is the main chat btw

it seems to be every channel at once

[little spire]

#general-discussion

[untold sequoia]

#general-discussion

[arctic flint]

Discussions offshoot all the time

[dense geyser]

You can always just use spoiler tags

[plain arch]

But shini, || is so hard to input

[untold sequoia]

You're asking us to comprises on allowing spoilers when the comprise is already just tag it

[plain arch]

Let alone doing it twice

[dense geyser]

You're right, what was I thinking

[arctic flint]

I first asked to make a limit on when something would be considered a spoiler

[plain arch]

[arctic flint]

Itd be better to have something official in place than to leave it up to people to decide for themselves

[untold sequoia]

But we always have an influx of new players

[little spire]

Yeah some people just seem allergic to using tags? I'm not sure why people object to pressing 4 more buttons

[untold sequoia]

There is something official in place

[arctic flint]

Idm tags existing

[lethal crane]

you mean one more button 4 times

[untold sequoia]

Its a spoiler, spoiler tag it

[plain arch]

^ And this is why there IS something official in place, and lazy people don't want to follow it because effort.

[obsidian verge]

my 2 cents is that square enix has been posting the exarchs face for a long time now

and most new players dont do the crystal tower anyway

[untold sequoia]

Its going to be mandatory

[arctic flint]

^

[obsidian verge]

but its not yet

[untold sequoia]

So thats a moot point

It will be in a couple of months

[plain arch]

Sweet, well, I barely visit the marketplace and I don't look all over the site. I barely look at the news posts.
Ergo, 'the exarchs' face being all over the place' is kind of meh, as.. well, let's face it.

I sure as hell haven't been seeing it everywhere.

[untold sequoia]

Its not like SE is in your face about the merch

[plain arch]

Now, SE's social media? Maybe, as I prefer actually doing things rather than staring at instagram and twitter all day, so I wouldn't know about that.

[lethal crane]

anyways, about crystal exarch identity

• SE doesn't seem to care when it comes to show his face around with his face being plastered on the game patcher advertisement a while ago
• other relevant characters aren't treated as a spoiler despite going through massive changes over patches
• the fact CT will be mandatory will introduce every single player to the crystal exarch so you can either treat him like ShB BLM y'shtola who went through a massive change over the story or him being a mistery spoiler fighter due to his introduction

like i said before i'm half/half on the matter, but putting my points here

[plain arch]

There's also not a single post going 'OMG GUYS GUESS WHAT ||THIS GUY IS THIS GUY||' from SE, and most people aren't really going to think very hard on it. Especially because all you've got to go on are scars.

Scars that don't exist in the first place.

[obsidian verge]

||https://twitter.com/FF_XIV_EN/status/1233503500916662273?s=19||

[plain arch]

So, beyond portraits from a guy who's ||been gone for lord only knows how long, and has no logical business still being alive,|| not a lot of people, hell, very few people will put this together.

And to clarify, I'm an avid supporter about thinking about shit. Like a lot. Fact is, most won't.

Ergo; it should remain a spoiler.

[little spire]

That third point Dan
That's....still a spoiler
Just because it happens in the story doesn't mean it's not a spoiler because that's the very definition of a spoiler?

[untold sequoia]

Once again, just because it was posted on the official twitter doesn't make it not a spoiler

[lethal crane]

That third point Dan
That's....still a spoiler
Just because it happens in the story doesn't mean it's not a spoiler because that's the very definition of a spoiler?
@little spire ofc it's still a spoiler, that's exactly my point

[little spire]

Oh

gdi

[elder violet]

Square Enix has a loose timeframe of about 2-3 weeks for minor spoilery stuff like events in 5.25, a bit longer for major things, before they post stuff on social media promoting recent content updates or the game in general.

But, the important thing here, we ain't Square Enix.

Guidelines regarding spoilers exist, and it's also in rule 2 in #about-this-server. Things that are deemed to be major plot points or reveals will indefinitely be treated as spoilers and should be spoiler tagged outside of #archived-lore-spoilers and temporary channels like #587202965878865920 when they're around.

[lethal crane]

for example BLM y'shtola is a huge spoiler

she went through a massive change with ShB

but people treat it like it's nothing

[plain arch]

I'm on the fence about Mr SLOPPEH myself, mostly because... idk, who actually cares about him.
BLM YEESH'tola isn't really a spoiler because she hasn't gone through a huge change at all; she was already showing major signs of being some sort of cross-class mage by the time SB hit.

[lethal crane]

not really

[plain arch]

True, she started as a conjurer, but that.. honestly didn't last long.

[lethal crane]

only dissidia y'shtola ever used black magic

[untold sequoia]

||It lasted until she became a BLM||

[plain arch]

Eh. Her class- hell it can't even be considered a class 'change,' she still uses offensive white magic, wasn't as big a deal to me. It didn't have much plot relevance beyond 'Scion fight gud now' which..

Well, that was kind of one of their defining features..

[obsidian verge]

maybe there should be a spoiler debate channel

[lethal crane]

#archived-lore-spoilers

[ornate pelican]

We use split channels on expansion launch. We ran the channels for about a month. Outside of that period there is no real use for multiple channels other than creating bloat and splitting conversation. Lore spoilers channel will remain as is. The rest of the rules about any content outside of lore spoilers needing to be spoiler tagged will also remain as is.

[steel acorn]

Hey Eanae! Should all updates from the #translations-and-liveletters hit any channel via the follow option?

I noticed It did updates but when Miuna did the most recently update that never got forwarded to the channel I connected it with via the follow option.

Might just be an issue with Discord itself though, not sure how that feature works 100%

[compact vale]

They flow out if they are published, and it looks like those recent messages were not published (yet?).

[steel acorn]

Interesting, so something has to be dubbed "published" for the follow option to work.

[modest ruin]

Yea as there's a limit to how much can be sent per hour iirc

[pearl halo]

yes

10 messages per hour

[steel acorn]

Makes sense. So LL's are not really a plausible thing to be fed through. Glad to know that now XD tyty

[modest ruin]

We usally publish the first message to let people know it's starting so they can follow along

[steel acorn]

Well, if anything I learned more about how discord works today. Thanks Reseph, Hannah and Reno!

[ornate pelican]

Please submit feedback to discord about removing the limit

We would love to push out every post

But as you said we cannot currently.

[gloomy grove]

If you want a new emote for fun, I offer this. I can bug the artist rq but they seem to not really care about their usage

[waxen root]

It's still a good idea to get permission, or at least something in writing.

[strong sedge]

I want a risky emote

[plain arch]

But it is not awoo.

[pearl halo]

more roles in #612757637813239808 ? for every world or every server (as opposed to just JP)

[untold sequoia]

We don't have a large enough Japanese playerbase to justify expanding the role, and sever specific roles aren't needed

[viscid stone]

Shibe sent me this, can we make :toncern: a thing?

[pearl halo]

wow this is great I love

[oak pawn]

[deft sorrel]

[plain arch]

[pearl halo]

[ionic tide]

excuse me that is :tonworry:

[cosmic drift]

Thanks for the feedback regarding a glamour channel: https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/502617038188183562/703163558170722414

[mystic creek]

Thanks for giving me a new home.

[hollow anchor]

new emote
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701812246455648306/703216517445320734/unknown.png

[wise gulch]

^

[deft sorrel]

what do we call it

[oak pawn]

seriously

[pearl halo]

:really

[teal compass]

:notamused

[soft lotus]

I did a thing

[undone crest]

what about :nojustno

[deft sorrel]

unamused

[undone crest]

:youinvitedwhotodinner

[oak hare]

:ordersablackcoffeeandleaves

[elder violet]

[mystic creek]

[oak pawn]

the slight shadow below it kinda makes it look like a doge thats just a round body with face

[undone crest]

:dogesquint ? eh well could be worse, it's true but not funny ^^

[mystic creek]

Thank you @odd jolt and @remote hamlet for the live letter coverage!

[untold sequoia]

Good job 👍

Also the LL isn't over yet

[oak needle]

Thanks for having a corona only channel so I can filter that out ❤️

[elder violet]

You're most welcome! 🙂

[zinc kiln]

Good idea emote?

[untold sequoia]

[zinc kiln]

[sudden cobalt]

why is the color for Primal so ugly

probably trival and im sure no oen cares

but yeah, this color sucks

before you finish let me rephrase

"i personally dislike this chosen color"

[elder violet]

Open to suggestions

It must be:

• Clearly different from other existing role colours
• Distinct in both light and dark mode

[sudden cobalt]

based on that I'm guessing thats why you landed on this, no ideas for something else in those guidelines, but ill come back with something if I find one that fits that criteria 😄

[elder violet]

Pretty much yup

[obsidian verge]

risky emote when https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/471887666946768896/702898612685766797

[gloomy grove]

Probs never since its not ffxiv related

[wise gulch]

Eh it's got cat girl ears
We have less XIV based emotes before

[gloomy grove]

Well if they care I have the artists permission but meh

Doubt it

[oak pawn]

i mean, we have this

so i dont see why not

[modest ruin]

i'm all for it too

[gloomy grove]

I'll just dm you the permission screenshot

[gusty path]

Hi why is the role colour for jp the same as undecided

[waxen root]

Open to suggestions

It must be:

• Clearly different from other existing role colours
• Distinct in both light and dark mode

[upbeat cliff]

gasp blasphemy who uses light mode, you can't even do spoiler tags lol

[untold sequoia]

||Yes you can||

https://i.gyazo.com/640fd99b2f3e34ae1736d6b41513388c.png

[upbeat cliff]

did they fix the fact you can see whats under it in light mode?

sweet

[gusty path]

What about bright red

That way on light theme u get the Japan flag colour scheme

[untold sequoia]

Thats Kupo Bot's colour

[gusty path]

Oh Frick I forgot

[untold sequoia]

Since Undecided isn't meant to be a role people stay on for long, there isn't much reason for it to have a unique colour

[gusty path]

Actually why does undecided need a colour anyway

Seems like if you just left it as the default colour it'll still be as effective

[obsidian verge]

pink

[waxen root]

https://redd.it/g93bsm

This post would make for a good pin or kupobot command

[tame osprey]

thanks IR

!faq joboverview

[ancient gale]

Beginner's Job Overview & Selection Guide v2.0 (Shadowbringers 5.3 edition)

Info

Click here for a ridiculously long writeup of every job for your viewing pleasure

[tight tusk]

proposal for !faq savagelootrule
Completing a Savage raid floor will spawn a set number of chest:
2 chests - 8 players have not completed this raid floor for this week
1 chest - 4-7 players have not completed this raid floor for this week
0 chest - 0-3 players have not completed this raid floor for this week

Players have 1 roll attempt per floor per week. In addition to chest spawn, Page will be rewarded as weekly completion reward of the raid floor.

If the player completed a higher floor, they forfeit their roll attempts and Page rewards for lower floors of the raid tier (4 floors made up a tier) for the week

@waxen root and I talked about this on this channel a while back

[wise gulch]

I lend my support to this.
Would be very useful to players entering endgame content. I'm sure it's a popular question.

[south latch]

maybe !faq edenloot can be modified to show this.

[deft sorrel]

We're gonna adjust Savage loot so it includes the loot rule. As for edenloot, those are kept separate due to them having, well, separate drop tables.

[south latch]

fair enough! Trying to help with faq/button bloat but i understand the differences.

[tight tusk]

!faq restedexp

[ancient gale]

Rested Experience FAQ

Info

'Why does my EXP bar have some blue in it?'

That's Rested experience, which is an extra source of bonus experience shared between all of your classes. You gradually earn this while inside a sanctuary (town or area with a major aetheryte), regardless of whether you're online or not. Sanctuaries are also indicated with a crescent moon icon near your experience bar.

'How much of a boost is it?'

The most amount of rested experience you can have at once is one and a half levels of experience. That means that lower level jobs use up the rested experience faster than higher level jobs do.

[tight tusk]

should we insert an image for this?

[wise gulch]

Im color blind but the Crescent moon icon removes the need of knowing the colors.

[cosmic drift]

Crescent moon icon means you’re in a sanctuary gaining rested experience, not that you have it

[nocturne geyser]

commands !whooldlogs seems to not recognize 'edensgate' as a valid tier and !gathering doesn't return the item upon correct input or I'm using those commands very wrong x_x

[elder violet]

!whooldlogs does work but the help text is incorrect. It works fine for 'edenverse' or 'edengate', just drop the s from eden.

!gathering does indeed appear to be broken. Will make a ticket for it.

[nocturne geyser]

oh fair, thank you!

[gloomy grove]

Just in case there isn't a !faq gnbopener yet, but if there is here's an update

[elder violet]

It's not permanent, ummuted you.

[tight tusk]

do we have a faq on positional?

like which part of the enemy target ring (?) is rear/flank, and some enemies have omni directional ring therefore they count for all positional

[cosmic drift]

!faq drgpositionals

[ancient gale]

Want to be able to check your positionals landing?

Info

Make sure you remove the (Your Name) and replace with your name like Xiu Ye

*You may select a sound file by entering its directory or clicking the ... to the right of the box and selecting the file.

If you are not using English client, you need to change the name of skills to your game's language. The changes need to be exact and are case sensitive.

Open ACT, go to the Custom Triggers tab

Enter the text into the Regular Expression field

Procs when landing positionals
(Your Name):(58:Chaos Thrust:[0-9A-Z]{8}:[0-9A-Za-z \-']{3,25}:457|DE2:Fang And Claw:[0-9A-Z]{8}:[0-9A-Za-z \-']{3,25}:(8|B)7|DE4:Wheeling Thrust:[0-9A-Z]{8}:[0-9A-Za-z \-']{3,25}:(8|B)7)

Procs when missing positionals
(Your Name):(58:Chaos Thrust:[0-9A-Z]{8}:[0-9A-Za-z \-']{3,25}:41|DE2:Fang And Claw:[0-9A-Z]{8}:[0-9A-Za-z \-']{3,25}:7|DE4:Wheeling Thrust:[0-9A-Z]{8}:[0-9A-Za-z \-']{3,25}:(40|7))

[cosmic drift]

!faq drgfaqs

[ancient gale]

Dragoon faq list

Info

!faq drgopener
!faq drgbuff
!faq drguide
!faq drgguide
!faq drgbis
!faq whotether
!faq drgaoe
!faq dsmacro
!faq vpn
!faq drgfood
!faq drgmeld
!faq drg2.35
!faq drgpositionals

[cosmic drift]

these are our only positional-related ones

[south latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587202938527809556/595739068177055774/2iicyv5.png

Something like that maybe polished up

[tight tusk]

Throw in an example of a omnidirectional thingy too

[ornate pelican]

That is in a faq somewhere already

[tight tusk]

Not !faq positional afaict

[ornate pelican]

It’s not. I forget what it’s under

[tight tusk]

XD

[safe mural]

!faq targetring

[ancient gale]

Target Ring

[tight tusk]

Ahh, cool

[mystic creek]

This doesn't have ass corners.

Though the suggested does not have 1400s ship terms either. We need a middle ground.

[deft sorrel]

I'll make a new one with both ass corners and Larboard/Starboard

[tight tusk]

If this is getting a remake, can we get an image of the omnidirectional

And perhaps tie it to !faq positional?

[mystic creek]

Can we get a preemptive rule against unnecessary, unrelated, or otherwise unproductive use of !me in #glamour-discussion. Its use in there should be limited to when it can contribute to the conversation or be used to start a meaningful or active discussion and not a replacement for its now banned spam in #general-discussion

[fiery shuttle]

[ornate pelican]

I could disable the commands if people want them to be. I feel like enforcing a rule will be a full time job in its own.

[mystic creek]

I am not sure about disabling them as they can certainly be used with a purpose in the channel. I just worry about a the reoccurrence of what happened before where anytime any person would use the command, a series of uses would follow which is not the purpose of the channel. How about a channel based rate-limit which would limit commands use in that channel to once per.. idk, lets say 2 minutes? The random use of !me isn't really a big deal it is the spam that follows of random people jumping in and doing it too without a reason, really.

[ornate pelican]

Rate limit is tough. I’m not sure how to setup a per channel rate limit.

[upbeat cliff]

click the gear next to the channel and turn on slow mode

[waxen root]

that's not what they want

rate limiting for the bot per channel is much more complicated then just toggling it on because that enforces slow mode for everyone

[pearl halo]

Get teddy to give special permission for people who want to use the !me command

[umbral fog]

Or people could just recognize that coming in and dropping !me without context is not cool

[mystic creek]

I am not sure what language you use for Kupo, but in mine I did by setting up a JavaScript Map and storing each command. Each time a channel has a command used it stores the channel ID with the unix timestamp it was last used. Then it is just a matter of comparing last used + expiration time against now to determine if the cooldown period has expired.

[nocturne geyser]

is there a way to show all of Kupobot's FAQs?

[elder violet]

It's not possible to show all of them at the same time. However, you can do !faq and navigate a bunch at a time using reactions, or do !faq something to search.

[nocturne geyser]

thank you!

[fiery shuttle]

i just wanna say the mod team is doing a really good job recently and youre awesome

[pearl halo]

Refia please this isnt the channel for jokes

[ornate pelican]

Hi I have feedback I’d like to ban Inko

[fiery shuttle]

jokes aside keep up the good work

[nocturne geyser]

okay so the thing in off topic did get me to thinking and I think the mods have a bit of an overreaction to Rule 4. I understand the purpose, of course, but jesus christ; Not being able to say the word Crimea is a bit much, IMO. Like, okay, it is political sure, but it's also a place where things happen and people live. I understand curbing the discussion if it becomes "Is Crimea Ukraine or Russia", but curbing it at mentioning Crimea is waaaaaaaaaaaay too much.

[untold sequoia]

The issue wasn't with mentioning Crimea on its own, the issue was from mentioning it after being told to drop it

If a mod tells you to drop a topic, then its best to just stear right away from anything related to that topic

[soft lotus]

In addition to that, the context was bringing up that prosecutor general, which is directly related to the conflict

[deft sorrel]

The mod team would like to remind Inko that purposely building ill-will towards the people who decide if you remain on the server or not, is probably not the greatest decision.

[pearl halo]

[still lotus]

I would like to suggest a channel for other Final Fantasy games, separate from #video-games-general

[obsidian verge]

thats a really good idea actually

[untold sequoia]

Whats wrong with just using #video-games-general?

[still lotus]

Too... broad, I guess.

[waxen root]

Too easy for non-FF games to drown out FF

[cosmic drift]

https://reddit.app.link/IMK76W9hj6

[still lotus]

I mean yeah, but I just got banned from that over a misunderstanding yesterday

[cosmic drift]

I’m not trying to be patronizing; the chat mod team is managing over 10k active users, and adding another potentially heavy traffic channel into the mix isn’t really within our operations budget

[still lotus]

Ah

[cosmic drift]

If you garner enough support though, the team will take it into consideration

[obsidian verge]

hire more mods

[cosmic drift]

That’s not out of the question

[obsidian verge]

maybe even a b team for the less busy channels

[cosmic drift]

We’ve actually discussed a concept similar to that, but the logistics are currently proving too difficult for us to realistically implement

[waxen root]

reminder that this is a completely volunteer ran effort and I applaud the admins and mods for keeping this together for so long

[ornate pelican]

We typically make channels for new major FF releases but we keep them temporary.

[nocturne geyser]

I support the FF channel idea

[flint coral]

Would it be possible to create a role for trivia? Aka a role to be pinged when a round of trivia starts? Sorry if there is already a system in place

[little spire]

^ I support this

I constantly miss them

[deft sorrel]

There's some cons to it. The big one is making a pingable trivia role is that anyone can ping it.

[mystic creek]

There is a new Discord permission which enables roles with that permission to ping roles which are not pingable.

It could be granted to the bot and when it starts it could ping the role.

[strong sedge]

Trivia role!

Isn't there a permission so only certain roles are allowed to ping certain roles?

[untold sequoia]

Yes

[deft sorrel]

Currently the way it's set up is only our Admins have that permission, to prevent accidents.

An @ everyone ping on a server this size would be disastrous.

[mystic creek]

Yeah I wish they would detach that from the everyone mention permission

[elder violet]

Another messy alternative is having a channel that you need a role to access (let's say for example: Trivia News), and then doing an everyone ping inside that channel

Less messy alternative, separate channel for solely for things like Trivia announcements, and everyone who wants be notified sets notifications for that channel to 'All messages'.

Unfortunately, there's nothing nice 'n easy

[smoky bridge]

Is there a way for the filter to recognize certain words as not offensive like countries? Like Serbia and Monten* * * * *? Or that one African country that starts with an N and has only one G in it?

[elder violet]

Fixed.

The second issue you mentioned, I can't find any instance of messages mentioning either African country (Niger, Nigeria) actually being hit by the filter.

[smoky bridge]

Oh okay, I just assumed cuz it's a very easy target. Super cool. Thx

[eager stone]

Was the shb lore spoilers channel/archive removed? I still use that channel sometimes to refer to past discussion ;-;

[tame osprey]

yes its gone now.

[ornate pelican]

Yeah sorry about that, I think that one got caught in the cross fire of channel cleanup by accident.

[modern jacinth]

@pearl halo here

[pearl halo]

@modern jacinth Thanks

[pearl halo]

<@&678028388534976545> <@&100464652139368448>

@deft sorrel Would you mind professionally explaining why I was muted for a day and threatened with a ban if I attempt to DM you? It seemed as a very unjust and hasty decision and I'd just like further clarification.

[elder violet]

Note that all the staff read this channel. There was absolutely no need to ping both roles.

Your mute is due to behaviour in #general-discussion.

[pearl halo]

What does "behaviour" entail? I apologize for any excessive pings, but as you can see even with those, I still hadn't received a response until now.

[modern jacinth]

We were discussing it in the meantime.

[pearl halo]

Understood, my apologies. I didn't know.

[modern jacinth]

I'm going to modify it down from a 24 hour and only make it a half hour longer from now

[elder violet]

What does "behaviour" entail?

The same kind of behaviour that earned you a warning earlier today: https://discordapp.com/channels/100463940835762176/100463940835762176/709064840143962122

Follow the rules in #about-this-server in the future.

[deft sorrel]

I apologize for the duration of your original mute. I was using my clipboard to apply it and was not paying full attention.

[pearl halo]

I greatly appreciate the reduction! However I still stand with the point that the mute and the threat that followed shouldn't have even been considered. I was blatantly bullied and brushed to the side as if I had committed a heinous crime and i'm still struggling to understand what it is that I've done wrong.

My previous warn that I had received had been given and the statement that followed was to "stop inciting degen" which had no specific meaning other than someones interpretation of what I had done, which was post an image of a map.

I follow the rules in #about-this-server to it's entirety as much as I can, however chastising ME solely when the rest of your community and chat does the same if not worse is singling me out and blatant harassment which is in violation of the first part of your rule #1 and discord ToS.

[elder violet]

My previous warn that I had received had been given and the statement that followed was to "stop inciting degen" which had no specific meaning other than someones interpretation of what I had done, which was post an image of a map.

You mean this which you shared in #general-discussion?

I follow the rules in #about-this-server to it's entirety as much as I can

No, you don't. Please go take a look at rule 1.

however chastising ME solely when the rest of your community and chat does the same if not worse

Feel free to let a mod know when this occurs. No one gets special treatment.

blatant harassment which is in violation of the first part of your rule #1 and discord ToS.

Feel free to submit that report to Discord.

[south latch]

Doesn't look very eorzean to me

[pearl halo]

In an attempt to clarify

[smoky bridge]

How soon can we expect the announcement of the new mods? And how many?

[deft sorrel]

Soon-ish. Make sure your applications are in. We may add a bunch, some, or none. We're not looking at a quota to fill.

And don't send in joke applications please. They make Cleave itchy.

[pearl halo]

@deft sorrel Hey, do I get paid with memes now

[deft sorrel]

No you have to wait like everyone else

[pearl halo]

Aw

Also, @deft sorrel Apologies for the ping. I wanted to ask if you guys had ModMail

[deft sorrel]

[pearl halo]

Sorry

[fiery shuttle]

for the glamour contest is there gonna be a theme or anything goes?

[untold sequoia]

We didn't chose a theme so anything goes atm, but we'll hash out all the details in time for the beginning of the context

[timid heron]

I see Balance is recruiting mods as well, any idea when this Discord will process their apps? Would be a bit awkward if people applied/got into both mod teams lol

[timid pilot]

I mean, that’s up to the people applying if they want to be a mod of both discords

For example, we have Rika as an endgame mentor here and they’re a BLM mentor over there.

[elder violet]

Aiming to close them this weekend, but since we've received so many applications we may stop accepting new applications sooner.

[deft sorrel]

We won't hold it against people if they manage to qualify for both teams.

[stoic steeple]

Looking forward to seeing who they are.

[turbid kayak]

its like looking for a job, its not like you have to accept both applications even if quailified

[vernal moat]

Referring to the Mod candidates
Are you reviewing each candid’s background or are you just pulling a name out of a hat

[deft sorrel]

Yes.

[timid pilot]

We use a command that makes Kupo randomly pick one and ban like 50% of the other applications

Very sophisticated /s

[compact vale]

They are interrogated about mayo during a 6 hour voice call.

[deft sorrel]

I have a 4 hour slideshow featuring big tiddied anime girls and they're not allowed to get horny once or they fail.

[wise musk]

Just about every candidate would fail Yen's test-

[wise gulch]

After Taliposting we are all immune

[elder violet]

[wise musk]

Taliposting wha

[finite pier]

I have a 4 hour slideshow featuring big tiddied anime girls and they're not allowed to get horny once or they fail.
I volunteer as tribute

[vernal moat]

I have a 4 hour slideshow featuring big tiddied anime girls and they're not allowed to get horny once or they fail.
I too volunteer

[pearl halo]

Can we get Waka glare as an emote

[pearl halo]

I'm going to send a strongly worded letter about my appreciation for the mods

[mystic creek]

Should probably clarify that 100463940835762176 is the server id as a parameter.

[stoic steeple]

so basically dm kupo bot?

[mystic creek]

Yeah, generally modmail takes DMs to the bot and send them to a channel all staff can see and respond in.

[stoic steeple]

I never really used it before. so I just copy/paste thats in that bar and just make my text?
sorry im dumb with this
basically a reporting someone?

[ornate pelican]

You would DM Kupo Bot with: !modmail openticket 100463940835762176 asfdasfasfs

100463940835762176 is the server ID so it points to where the mail should go

I might look to improve the ticket opening process to be a bit easier to understand.

Right now this is in beta

Feedback is very welcome on this process.

Feel free to ping me if you feel like you have good feedback

[stoic steeple]

alright.
I'll see what I think of.

[mystic creek]

@ornate pelican mind if I DM you the suggestion?

[ornate pelican]

Sure

[tulip lava]

Bit tricky since this feature looks designed for multiple servers. Maybe allow some servers to have custom name mapping in place of the id? e.g. !modmail openticket ffxiv asdfghj mapping to !modmail openticket 100463940835762176 asdfgh ?

Alternatively you could possibly have a #modmail channel where users lack the Read Messages permission where they could just do !modmail openticket 123125412 but at that point there really isn't much point of having a bot facilitate the transaction at all when you could just have people type something in #modmail that no one but staff can read

[ornate pelican]

It is indeed a feature that can be used on any server that configures it (best of luck figuring it out I haven't documented any of it yet)

I hadn't thought of aliases

That's a good idea

[scarlet kindle]

Random thought but could invite link codes maybe work?
I'd imagine most servers big enough to want to use modmail have their own custom url from nitro boosts

[ornate pelican]

Um

Maybe? Id still have to map the invite url to a server id

I’ll be making some tweaks to the method of opening a ticket tomorrow

Removing the messages about the feature until I do some tweaking

Heading to sleep but any further suggestions on the feature are welcome.

[turbid kayak]

Linking a channel could also work, since that contains also server id

[cosmic drift]

@pearl halo

[pearl halo]

Thanks

[fiery shuttle]

Can we rename to :uwucarby:

[cosmic drift]

[ionic tide]

[mystic creek]