#endgame-lounge | Final Fantasy XIV | Page 449

steep iris Dec 22, 2018, 1:38 AM

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so it could be like

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20 hours open and the s rank hasn't spawned yet

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or even immediately as the s rank opens up on ariyala

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 6:40 AM

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wow @mellow idol that's a really nice picture

trim finch Dec 22, 2018, 8:19 AM

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Is there anything at lv60 miner worth gathering that might make some money

fiery bone Dec 22, 2018, 9:29 AM

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from regular nodes or onspoiled?

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 10:24 AM

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Someone just got taxed over 1500 in my Middy run lol

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boreal edge Dec 22, 2018, 10:27 AM

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seems padded

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 10:27 AM

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That's not padded

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act just had a fit

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I've never seen it have that big of a difference

boreal edge Dec 22, 2018, 10:34 AM

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wait thats

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dtps

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not dps

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 10:42 AM

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dtps 🤔

boreal edge Dec 22, 2018, 10:56 AM

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@stable basin i dont understand yet

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 AM

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usually ACT shows numbers that are within 50~150 DPS of FFLogs

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SMN and BLM are notable for being especially inaccurate on ACT but usually not more than 400 or so

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1550 is a way bigger difference than I've ever seen

boreal edge Dec 22, 2018, 11:00 AM

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maybe act thought everything DHcrit

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Hmm

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Most of it seems to be dot overestimation

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ACT gave both dots about 2.5x as much damage as FFLogs

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And the difference makes up about 1450 dps

daring edge Dec 22, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Do you guys think its worth the time to do allied and normal raid roulettes?

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 11:43 AM

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Ally raid is very good exp and quick queues for dps especially

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Normal raid gives pretty bad exp though

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 11:44 AM

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free tomestones

daring edge Dec 22, 2018, 11:48 AM

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soo allied raid it is

opal hollow Dec 22, 2018, 1:45 PM

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does anyone know what food cap is?

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i have the 40 min food from fc buffs

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 1:46 PM

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1h

opal hollow Dec 22, 2018, 1:46 PM

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it goes over 1hr

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 1:46 PM

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it doesn't

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if you use 2 foods with the 40 min buff then you waste 20 mins of food

opal hollow Dec 22, 2018, 1:46 PM

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mine lasted 80 mins tho

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if i pop 2 eggs right now, the 1hr doesn't disappear

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without the fc food buff it doesn't go over 1hr though

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im assuming the food cap is 2x your food but idk

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i've heard it reaches 2 hrs but i can't find any info

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 1:52 PM

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oh yeah

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https://gyazo.com/488d13708be337bade57533172f30978

Gyazo

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up to 80 mins then I guess

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90 with the squadron buff

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 2:32 PM

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what do you do on byakko as a melee when he does the line aoe while standing between 2 bubbles

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do you just stand in a safespot and cry

unreal lance Dec 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Yes

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You can greed it sometimes though depending on ball placement and where he lands

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 2:37 PM

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you can eat the line aoe

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implying you have like

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47k+ hp

unreal lance Dec 22, 2018, 2:42 PM

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you healer will hate you, but ok

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 2:42 PM

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it's byakko

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pop second wind and bloodbath

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he's not gonna be alive for much longer

unreal lance Dec 22, 2018, 2:43 PM

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fair point

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 2:43 PM

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and the only person that's going to take damage after that is the tank eating hakutei

thorn bear Dec 22, 2018, 2:49 PM

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you say that like somehow people doing byakko farms

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having increased in dps dealt

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 2:50 PM

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yeah byakko is probably the worst to farm atm

thorn bear Dec 22, 2018, 2:50 PM

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i'd love to see people with 370 weapons

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fail to get the tiger below 20%

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 2:51 PM

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people with 370 weapons fail to skip the tank LB part with soloheal

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you need everyone doing at least blue dps for that

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so basically impossible in pf

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somehow healers still don't know they have to heal the bubble dps who's at like 10% hp dropping the bubble

last silo Dec 22, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Tiger didn't seem that hard. Is there an extreme version of it?

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 3:37 PM

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there's extreme versions of all SB and HW trials

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so, yes

last silo Dec 22, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Well that's convenient

silent vessel Dec 22, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Extreme isnt that bad. I beat it with a group on our second try. He just requires more running around

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lol

last silo Dec 22, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Oh great. I have to go back and do Fractal Continuum to unlock the 70 roulette again

fringe granite Dec 22, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Fractal is a fun dungeon

hybrid rapids Dec 22, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Hard?

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Or normal

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One of my favourite dungeon is

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Sloppy

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 4:36 PM

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the warring triad boss is one of the best dungeon bosses this expansion tbh

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but the chimera+cyclops trash pulls are annoying af

last silo Dec 22, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Well, I had to do normal to unlock hard.

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:50 PM

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im ngl every time they release a new dungeon im like

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they cant possibly make a more fun dungeon boss than x

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and like 50% of the time im positively surprised

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i think the first dungeon boss i genuinely enjoyed was the uhh

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flower lady in saint mocianne's

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belladonna?

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 4:52 PM

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4.4 dungeon bosses are kinda bleh

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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i havent run the dungeons since release day what were they again

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we got uh

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the burn right?

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and mocianne hard

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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yeah

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:53 PM

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yeah nothing too noteworthy from the top of my head

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 4:54 PM

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2nd one in arboretum with the sliding floor is probably the best one out of the 2 dungeons

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:55 PM

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ye fair

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i agree

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 4:56 PM

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you mean the 2nd boss of the burn

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:56 PM

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the one that goes vroom

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and nyeoum

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?

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 4:56 PM

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the one that disappears on 5th gcd when i want to do damage on any job whatsoever

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:56 PM

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lulWut

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glad i play an easy mode DPS on the side

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can you imagine unironically playing something like MCH

last silo Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 PM

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I guess I'll be spamming the Burn for tomestones

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 PM

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don't you play sch

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 PM

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even though that class has awesome visuals and was literally the best class in Heavensward literally 0 contest dont even think about @ing me

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thats why i said on the side

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PepeHands

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 PM

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@zinc vortex hey the best class is uh

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war

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 4:57 PM

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hope the fix mch in 5.0 tbh

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:58 PM

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uh

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yeah same

last silo Dec 22, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Mch has the best goggles

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 4:58 PM

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yeah i'd like to play mch without having a stroke

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 4:58 PM

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would be nice

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besides i stopped raiding for now anyway, work is absolutely killing me irl :)

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gonna ride the carry train when i get back into it around february

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 4:59 PM

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the only thing i don't like about mch is probably flamethrower tbh

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like, it'd be more playable if you could just overheat with an ogcd

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:00 PM

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flamethrower is an ogcd :^))))))

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 5:00 PM

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i mean i guess yeah

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but then you run into the issue where for like the first

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2s of your overheat you cant use GCDs

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its gonna feel bad either way :(

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:01 PM

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make flamethrower just a shitty aoe cooldown that applies a dot or something for trash pulls in dungeons or adds in savage

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:01 PM

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the thing i don't get about mch is uh

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every wildfire after the 1st

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 PM

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same, with 3ammo

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 PM

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you mean how you approach it?

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 PM

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2ammo is eazy

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 PM

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2 ammo is easy yeah :)

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all i know tbh

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 PM

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i just make shit up as i go along tbh

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 PM

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really cba to learn anything 3 ammo related when MCH's current state makes me just

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want to forget it exists

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2 ammo is just 3 different WF rotations based on which procs you have going into your Reload

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:03 PM

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3

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yeah that's too big brain

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:03 PM

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idk how to set up if i have a clean shot proc tbh

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:03 PM

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which one is clean shot

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:03 PM

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is it 3 2 1

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oribably 321 i'm just bad

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bad at typing

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:04 PM

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prob just use cooldown or split shot idk

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Clean shot is

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a bunch of cooldowns

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literally

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clean shot proc -> reload -> clean shot, split shot, slug shot -> cooldown flamethrower -> cooldowns + off-GCDs

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on mobile so cba to properly type it out

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it feels really weird though

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:05 PM

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can you type in england

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 5:05 PM

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but its better average potency per GCD than fishing for procs in wildfire iirc

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sorry for poor england i havent communicated with people since patch 4.1

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:07 PM

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ah

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too much ucob i c

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only communicating with gremlins

zinc vortex Dec 22, 2018, 5:08 PM

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raiding ultimate

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RageCoggerButItGetsFaster

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the audacity

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:09 PM

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big ultimate fan

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can't prog fellruin cause christmas 😔

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:09 PM

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fkin christmas

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people doing shit with their family

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:10 PM

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gonna miss weeklies too probably soulsurrender

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my 8th book

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:11 PM

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pug it

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POGSLIDE

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:11 PM

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tru

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it'll probably be easier than weekly 12s with my current group that does uptime unreal hw2

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i wipe them every time cause it's too galaxy brain for me

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:12 PM

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does the uptime unreal hw actually have more uptime

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:12 PM

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cleared this week only because i got killed by a healer accidentally and i didn't have to do a tower

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i'm a caster i have 100% uptime

quick verge Dec 22, 2018, 5:13 PM

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ya but for

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not ranged

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 5:15 PM

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probably

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both stacks are in melee, blue marker and no marker get defamation while in melee

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blue and no debuff get rot while in melee too and it resolves around their defamation so they can just hang around melee later while it's being passed to tower people

trail isle Dec 22, 2018, 6:25 PM

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If I have Largesse, and I Regen - is the whole duration of Regen increased? Or when Largesse falls off the Regen loses the potency increase?

coarse radish Dec 22, 2018, 6:29 PM

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it just needs to be on when cast

glossy musk Dec 22, 2018, 6:29 PM

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It's a snapshot system

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So it calculates it at time of cast

high ether Dec 22, 2018, 7:12 PM

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lol 2k dps SAM in expert

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♿

vital cypress Dec 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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don't doxx me please

boreal edge Dec 22, 2018, 7:20 PM

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@trail isle largesse doesnt increase regen duration it increase its potency

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also its snapshot system

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lagesse last 15 secs

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you can regen as u put largesse

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and before regen runs out

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and you have buffed regen potency for 35 secs

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 7:29 PM

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"is the whole duration of regen increased" I'm pretty sure they meant "is it increased across the whole duration" but ye

trail isle Dec 22, 2018, 7:35 PM

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What Visanta said

flat roost Dec 22, 2018, 9:21 PM

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do I have to meld vit as a DPS

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😔

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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if you're progging savage then yes, definitely helps

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if you're not then no

quaint flower Dec 22, 2018, 10:13 PM

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it is less important than it was, now most of people have 390/400 and a lot of mechanics this tier is instant kill

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however

lyric summit Dec 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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not really, final omega has a lot of things that make you live by a tiny bit of hp, archive all impact, patch, hello world, ion efflux

quaint flower Dec 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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pugs o12s

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definitely vit

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these pug healers

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ablobsweats

thorn bear Dec 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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do it unless you are in full 390/400 gear

quaint flower Dec 22, 2018, 10:15 PM

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^ that was my point

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vit is important on launch prog when you are 370 or 380

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later it helps too but less

thorn bear Dec 22, 2018, 10:16 PM

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don't be my mch and go into o12s prog

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Even at bis I still see people drop during program omega

thorn bear Dec 22, 2018, 10:16 PM

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with 370 chest piece

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and one vit meld

stable basin Dec 22, 2018, 10:16 PM

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oof

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My start of tier static had a guy who missed the first week of patch

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I forgot to reprisal one of the element aoes on o9s and he got oneshot

quaint flower Dec 22, 2018, 10:18 PM

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i see people drop on everything

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on weekly farms

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pepothink

blazing pelican Dec 22, 2018, 11:39 PM

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I pug with RDM sometimes and there's a lot of "oh fuck my party is stupid and Addle is on CD people are gonna die"

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 12:13 AM

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how do you use addle on rdm before it's needed ponder

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like, smn for wws sure

valid gate Dec 23, 2018, 12:36 AM

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because theres a lot of shit

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you can addle

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it's never "needed" so i have no idea what you're trying to get across there

full wave Dec 23, 2018, 12:39 AM

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Addle is needed in Ultimate and early prog

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 12:40 AM

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there's always a thing you should save it for in savage or even ex trials

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 12:40 AM

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just replace caster with mch

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free addle every 60 seconds

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 12:41 AM

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tsuku stack, byakko aoe spam before bubbles, suzaku aoe->stack

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so just because you can addle some weakass aoe, why would you

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instead of using it on something that actually hurts and you know drooling healers won't react to fast enough

full wave Dec 23, 2018, 12:42 AM

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I save Feint for TBs and no one appreciates me.

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 12:47 AM

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when you use your mitigation tools and the tank survives with 10 hp

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BlobSmirk

quaint flower Dec 23, 2018, 12:56 AM

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when you do not use your mitigations tools and tank dies by 10 hp

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pepothink

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 1:03 AM

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when you use your mitigation tools and the party dies

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:03 AM

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when you use mitigation tools for dps feelsSmnMan

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 1:03 AM

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just get max sps for more wyrmwaves

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lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:04 AM

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🔫

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 1:06 AM

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it's a dps increase

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just get fey wind and enhanced arrow

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and rapid fire the fuck out of ruin 2/4

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shoot me you won't

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:07 AM

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quick question for the people who know what they're talking about

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which is to say not me

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is the Fey Wind opener worth doing, or does it screw up rotations enough that it's not worth it

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:08 AM

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it's super worth doing

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there is no "screwing up rotations"

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Our MCH grumbles about that and Arrow constantly

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(and the DRG though I'm not sure why they'd care so much)

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:09 AM

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minor alignment, but you can adjust for it

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and it's a strict dps gain

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if they have an issue with it

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they can click off the buff

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and admit that they can't deal with it

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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for some jobs there's specific openers if there's fey wind, like nin I think

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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but it's still strictly a gain

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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and for some jobs like mch sks is actual dps loss i heard

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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if for the very least, extra autos

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no

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it sucks and feels clunky

quaint flower Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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it can be a pain for some jobs

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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and it's especially rough during rapid fire

quaint flower Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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ew DRK during blood weapon

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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but it's still a gain

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:10 AM

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i was enjoying not raiding then someone dragged me back into it

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the monsters

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:11 AM

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but yeah, basically like

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yes fey wind opener

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:11 AM

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i mean it doesn't cost anything besides the MCH getting annoyed

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 1:11 AM

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if someone has an issue where they don't want it, they should click off the buff (or macro to remove it)

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no reason to take away a solid raid buff from the rest of the party because one person is annoyed by it

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:11 AM

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(also I think they have a cancel macro and just like to complain anyways, or the AST is using Arrow while I'm not looking or something)

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another job well done

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:16 AM

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exaflare hardest mechanic

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 1:16 AM

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leaked ucob parse

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:17 AM

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has estelle cleared o4s

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 1:17 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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ucob is basically o10s easy mode anyway

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:18 AM

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i'll run up an exaflare if I want to

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(also no, my deltascape group cleared O3S like...two weeks before 4.2?)

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:18 AM

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truu when you get that 5s doom into thunder and fire in in o10s am i right raiders 😜 👊

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 1:19 AM

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when 35 people die to hot tail and someone eats 2 vuln stacks as they're raising

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hit the yeet dabv

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:19 AM

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not my fault angel feathers has an hour-long animation lock

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:20 AM

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say: rescue me
don't die
profit

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 1:22 AM

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die anyway

quaint flower Dec 23, 2018, 1:25 AM

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just give healer bulwark

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everybody stacks

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after hot tail healer lb

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:26 AM

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actually i don't think my current group has had an effective wipe to hot tail

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sometimes one person getting exploded

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almost like the last group I was with wasn't all that great paissa

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or sloppy or something

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 1:40 AM

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did you clear 11s yet

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 1:58 AM

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non

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static 1 blew up in O10S

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static 2 got past first pantokrator then regressed

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until it was blind luck to clear O10S any week playdead

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and I'm not sure why

steep iris Dec 23, 2018, 3:05 AM

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cause 10s is full of rng

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and if people don't know how to adjust

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playdead

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Just die

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And lb3

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mewpaissa

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Pretty much all my runs of middy has like 3+ deaths

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:48 AM

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i'll never get a clean run in my life

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of any of these fights

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and if I do i'll be 5 seconds off of inner release

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:49 AM

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play drk

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never die

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 3:49 AM

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when did you go tank

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:50 AM

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tank till I die

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or raid tier unlocks

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and I get to play dps

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i'll be the tank then

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:50 AM

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I'm gonna play drk after I clear

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 3:52 AM

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also how did I wind up as a healer

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:54 AM

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rate me alt

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vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 3:55 AM

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luv 2 critical dual storage violation

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:55 AM

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!charlogs gilgamesh selfish dps

storm frostBOT Dec 23, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Selfish Dps of Gilgamesh

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Chaos**

Ninja: (7574/8324) [4873 DPS] [9 Historical] [8:43]
Warrior: (9904/13756) [4507 DPS] [28 Historical] [7:41]
Astrologian: (9471/10295) [1335 DPS] [8 Historical] [9:26]

**Midgardsormr**

Warrior: (7726/10167) [4010 DPS] [24 Historical] [9:32]

**Omega**

Warrior: (6774/7444) [4191 DPS] [9 Historical] [10:37]

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:55 AM

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god gamer

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:55 AM

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lmao

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i tyhought i di dbad

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u did even worse lmao

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:56 AM

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you know why I got grey

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because I was in defiance

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:56 AM

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LMAO

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:56 AM

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at the end

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because I will die

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if i'm not

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the amount of times I died to autos in m/f is very scary

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I spent a full inner release in defiance so that I could make it easier on the healers

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:57 AM

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isn't drk tankier

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in savage

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all that magic damage

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:57 AM

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drk is tankier in the sense that it has on demand shielding

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and dark mind

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 3:57 AM

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i just read the tooltips

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and i'm like damn

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this big sword 2strong

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:58 AM

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btw

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line strat

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is stupid

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there is so much room for error in ya'lls strategy lol

quaint flower Dec 23, 2018, 3:58 AM

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drk has more cd on demand but warrior is the one who is tankier

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war > drk > pld in terms of sustain and drk> war > pld in terms of tank buster mitigation

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 3:59 AM

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raw intution the goat

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fuck midgardsormr (this post made by warrior gang)

quaint flower Dec 23, 2018, 4:00 AM

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midgar is ez for war

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due to short cd

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 4:00 AM

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i should see who from our old static still plays

quaint flower Dec 23, 2018, 4:00 AM

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pld can be tricky

vital cypress Dec 23, 2018, 4:00 AM

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you, me, uh

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that might be it

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i have no idea where the catboy DRK went but they were annoying anyways

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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there is so much weird inoptimization going on

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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i aspire to be that drk

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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like me and you being in the same group

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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truly the goat

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LMAO

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yea

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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and me and the pld being in the same quadrant

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for shield

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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the m/f splits are bad

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it's because we run drk pld

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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yeah at taht point you can't help someone missing slashing

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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the only person who misses is pld anyway

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 4:02 AM

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but there is actually no reason for both tanks being in the same position for shield

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 4:03 AM

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yea i think its easier for drk

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because of plunge

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 4:03 AM

#

I think it helps with consistency if things are the same often

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like my group has us be on the same gender during initial split

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and where you are first determines your position for eletric boogaloo

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line strat is just monkaShoot

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I don't even know how mtq made that shit up

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cause it makes no sense to me still

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 4:06 AM

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I actually really like it

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umaru

thorn bear Dec 23, 2018, 4:07 AM

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box is not only super comfy, but you can walk back to your spot if you are odd number

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after you get hit

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and you don't have to worry about getting clipped by the eye

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or the 3/4 dashes

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and you don't have to memorize two orders for the numbers depending on odd or even

normal sable Dec 23, 2018, 4:08 AM

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i don't remember orders

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i just do even/odd

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and then lining up is lowest number near eye, highest number furthest

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 4:33 AM

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the crit multiplier is tied to your stat, "critical hit", which also affects the rate at which you crit

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notable since there are buffs that affect your crit rate, but don't actually raise your critical hit stat, and thus don't affect the crit multiplier

#

yeah, that only affects your crit rate, doesn't affect the crit stat, so your multiplier is static with litany

stable rose Dec 23, 2018, 9:27 AM

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do i upgrade my augmented lost allagan to Ryumyaku?

steep iris Dec 23, 2018, 9:39 AM

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you can upgrade it to scaevan if you have genesis

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otherwise upgrade to ryumyaku

stable rose Dec 23, 2018, 10:03 AM

#

what else should i be using Medacity tome for

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or is it going to be useless like poetics

boreal edge Dec 23, 2018, 10:22 AM

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its already useless

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unless u wanna sell i380 craft mats stuff

flat roost Dec 23, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Which items are the ones you can sell?

boreal edge Dec 23, 2018, 2:50 PM

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all of em?

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some are more on demand than others

#

gotta check your MB

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 3:01 PM

#

everything under mendacity (other)

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how did we clear tsuku ex

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PF mysteries

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 3:05 PM

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sigh

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why do you do this to yourself

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 3:06 PM

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ex is the only content left

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quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 3:08 PM

#

eureka

boreal edge Dec 23, 2018, 3:08 PM

#

Vi need some salt

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he didnt have enough salt in his food today

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 3:08 PM

#

i am become salt

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the destroyer of pf

boreal edge Dec 23, 2018, 3:09 PM

#

i cap in eureka

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 3:10 PM

#

i mean this is the same dc that uses fennek strat

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😏

boreal edge Dec 23, 2018, 3:11 PM

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what fennek you speaking about?

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 3:16 PM

#

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i am so proud of this community

wet stag Dec 23, 2018, 3:16 PM

#

Is that

#

Antiquated

#

Oh wait no susano

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 3:17 PM

#

susano

#

in tsuku ex

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 3:17 PM

#

great community btw

dull radish Dec 23, 2018, 5:31 PM

#

yeah probably

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 5:33 PM

#

they will be

#

1k crit in pyros already

#

max

#

and then i400/i405

#

with possible upgrades to the substats

#

you're going to see aoe markers after they've been casted

#

skillful and rewarding gameplay

#

you get to visibly MonkaS after you avoid an aoe that would kill you

opal hollow Dec 23, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

can just wait for hydro before picking which pagos wep to pick

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 6:02 PM

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ye there's a forge

novel fog Dec 23, 2018, 6:10 PM

#

pusheen_think how do you level up fast to go from getting eureka wep to pyros/hydros?

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Solo ish

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 6:10 PM

#

nms

novel fog Dec 23, 2018, 6:11 PM

#

Did they change how they spawn or is it still a kill x amount of mobs and hope it hasnt been done recently?

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

still the same

novel fog Dec 23, 2018, 6:16 PM

#

Ah i see

#

Waiting for 5.0 nerfs to eureka in general might be worth then

lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 6:19 PM

#

might as well just skip eureka lol

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 6:22 PM

#

it's free money and glam pieces

novel fog Dec 23, 2018, 6:22 PM

#

I mean i like glowy weapons

#

After Arr and HW fists i need eureka fists

last galleon Dec 23, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

Pagos is getting nerfed even more in 4.5

#

Which was honestly the worst Eureka step by far

novel fog Dec 23, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

I jist want to be able to do it solo dogeKek

last galleon Dec 23, 2018, 6:25 PM

#

For leveling solo, you can do challenge logs

#

Gives you good 2-3 levels

#

And even light farming you can do solo

#

NMs I did solo as well. If you’re at the right level you can get gold even without a party

#

Downside is if you die you might have to wait till end of NM for people to raise you

#

Pagos leveling was probably the worst but pyros NMs give such a generous amount of exp I didn’t even think about the leveling process there

#

I did NMs until I had enough crystals then I used that method to gain my last 8 bars

#

But likely 4.5 will nerf pagos light requirements

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 6:33 PM

#

they need to buff the amount of crystals acquiesced

#

light is

#

light work

lusty oak Dec 23, 2018, 6:34 PM

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light is easy

#

buff NM drops

#

GWnanaREEEEEEEEEE

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those 500 crystals are pain in the butt

novel fog Dec 23, 2018, 6:35 PM

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There is no artifact armor right?

steady pebble Dec 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

#

in pagos?

lusty oak Dec 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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pagos is weapon only

novel fog Dec 23, 2018, 6:38 PM

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Ah i see

last galleon Dec 23, 2018, 7:32 PM

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Classic pagos experience

#

At least you can throw them at mutamix

quick verge Dec 23, 2018, 8:59 PM

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im surprised my crit is so high with the tome weapon tbh

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lyric summit Dec 23, 2018, 9:48 PM

#

got through blackfire trio without a death wew

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fellruin got aborted so fast it doesn't even show up in enemy casts

edgy flume Dec 23, 2018, 10:14 PM

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well i'm curious if I didn't screw up a little XD

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honest yew Dec 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

#

when it comes to bis drg, if I'm unable to get 400 gear via savage, is ilvl worth it when the pieces dont have the stats im after

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 1:13 AM

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yes

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if you don't do savage then your bis is just i390 tome gear

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 1:40 AM

#

the wave cannon tether sure did love me today

honest yew Dec 24, 2018, 3:08 AM

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aw man, after all that work I did overmelding

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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if you're not doing savage then you don't even need to meld 🤷

novel fog Dec 24, 2018, 8:56 AM

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But what if you want non savage big deeps

wet stag Dec 24, 2018, 8:58 AM

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Do Savage

novel fog Dec 24, 2018, 9:00 AM

#

ConcernDoge i cannot make that kind of commitment

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And i value my sanity

boreal edge Dec 24, 2018, 9:16 AM

#

no content need your big dick dps beside savage

#

not even EX primals

novel fog Dec 24, 2018, 9:18 AM

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What about feeling great on having big dps and clearing faster?

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 9:26 AM

#

clearing what faster

boreal edge Dec 24, 2018, 9:28 AM

#

@lyric summit expert dungeons

novel fog Dec 24, 2018, 9:28 AM

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Just normal stuff

wet stag Dec 24, 2018, 9:28 AM

#

Oops MonkaT

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 9:29 AM

#

you're 1 of 8 people

#

in 390 tome gear like all casuals

#

if you know your rotation you're already doing more dps than them

#

pentamelds won't help

boreal edge Dec 24, 2018, 9:30 AM

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idk if for example clearing suzaku nm faster matters much

#

its not hard enough

#

to even bother

normal sable Dec 24, 2018, 9:30 AM

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Melds add very little

#

Something like less than 3%

novel fog Dec 24, 2018, 9:31 AM

#

GWseremePeepoThink

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 9:34 AM

#

literally no reason to gear up other than getting minimal required ilvl for content

boreal edge Dec 24, 2018, 9:34 AM

#

while clearing savage faster can mean skipping mechanics

#

or skip tough parts to heal/tank

#

thats not the case even in extremes

#

thordan and shinryu EX were special cases

#

since those were closest to raid difficulty

wet stag Dec 24, 2018, 9:36 AM

#

3rd head on pepehands

boreal edge Dec 24, 2018, 9:40 AM

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since we are in xmas for around 2 resets

#

a static asked me to fill for them as sam

#

GWqlabsYaoLUL

stable basin Dec 24, 2018, 9:44 AM

#

I've been in parties that locked sam

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because drk/pld and we didn't want to sacrifice someone's door parse

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 9:46 AM

#

but sam has slashing yoshiglasses

stable basin Dec 24, 2018, 9:47 AM

#

We locked a slot to sam

honest yew Dec 24, 2018, 9:49 AM

#

i just want big deep because I want things

#

mounts, loot, epeen

daring berry Dec 24, 2018, 10:57 AM

#

Wait, there are people trying to show off dps on non-savage EASY dungeons?

boreal edge Dec 24, 2018, 11:01 AM

#

i know plenty

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i can do big dick dps

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but i dont wanna do the content where that big dick dps matters

#

GWworkshopAkaShrug

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 11:02 AM

#

locking nin/sam is common for door

#

but who cares tbh

#

it's like

#

Monday

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 11:03 AM

#

need slashing for prog 😔

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 11:03 AM

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you do yeah

#

it's throwing away like 400+ dps

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 11:04 AM

#

don't need dps to do mechanics

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 11:05 AM

#

tank lb strat for shield

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do shield normally until you spread for fire

#

stack and tank lb3

valid gate Dec 24, 2018, 1:10 PM

#

that actually physically hurt me to think about

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 1:10 PM

#

good

flat roost Dec 24, 2018, 1:25 PM

#

me and my friends are thinking of forcing a group to try out some sausage difficulty at some point.

#

We have BLM, RDM and SMN as our DPS. How does this make you feelies?

#

someone who hasnt decided.

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 1:37 PM

#

would be very shit for drops + big responsibility on the summoner to know how to use garuda egi properly

#

healers might have MP issues as well without a ranged

#

and without a STR based melee tanks will deal less damage, even less less if you end up with pld/drk and no sam/nin to provide slashing debuff

barren tapir Dec 24, 2018, 1:39 PM

#

how to up level on pagos?

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 1:39 PM

#

kill shit

flat roost Dec 24, 2018, 1:39 PM

#

Hmm.

#

I feel like me wanting to be a RDM was a mistake.

#

but too late now since I've spent some time gearing it. 😔

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 1:40 PM

#

they're fine classes

#

but 3 caster is xd

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 1:43 PM

#

should be fine as long as people know how to play their jobs and don't mind fighting for drops

#

make everyone do stone sky sea for o9s and put their parses through xivanalysis

#

cause inb4 it turns out you have an ice mage, a bahamut with 3 wyrmwaves and you don't know how to use swiftcast on redmage

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then uhh you won't clear probably

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 1:45 PM

#

swiftcast

#

you mean

#

free p r o c ?

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 1:45 PM

#

idk i don't play rdm

#

but it's in the rdm ogcds on xiva and people don't use it cause they're bad

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 PM

#

i think the priority for swiftcast is like

#

movement for mechanics > fishing for procs if you have none

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 PM

#

optimizing rdm 😴

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 PM

#

preferably you'll have it on cd most times

#

but rng class btw xd

zinc vortex Dec 24, 2018, 2:51 PM

#

using swiftcast for movement on a class that only has to stand still for 1 second every 5 seconds

#

babywhat

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 2:55 PM

#

more like for 2.2s every 5s

#

plus you skip a weak jolt/stone/fire for thicc thunder/aero so ye swiftcast good

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 2:57 PM

#

shockingly

#

some mechanics require more than just dualcast

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 3:46 PM

#

I forgot what actual progress feels like

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 3:48 PM

#

feels good right

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 3:48 PM

#

ya

#

time for pantokrator 2

cinder bane Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

is it possible to find a static in this time?

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

yes

cinder bane Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

Espicially with no raiding background

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

maybe

flat roost Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

Am I allowed to like RDM? 😔

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

no

flat roost Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

😭

normal sable Dec 24, 2018, 7:07 PM

#

You'd be better off pugging tbh

#

If you got 0 experience

#

No remotely decent groups will pick you up

cinder bane Dec 24, 2018, 7:14 PM

#

What is the most needed class

#

Or job

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:31 PM

#

a lot of them

quaint flower Dec 24, 2018, 7:36 PM

#

role wise PLD/SCH/BRD

#

PLD for decent cd and defense utility, SCH for shields, BRD for mp/range mechanic slave

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 7:42 PM

#

player-amount wise then any tank any healer or a good ninja

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:43 PM

#

any healer that isn't whm

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 7:50 PM

#

I'm not sure if it's rust or lack of familiarity with my other healer, but my DPS is crap now

#

35-40 percent

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:50 PM

#

show log

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 7:52 PM

#

it's like week 20 everyone's i400 too

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/nrtc6PB9FGZbxMyC#fight=2&type=damage-done

#

i392?

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:57 PM

#

ok im not a pro healer

#

but what stands out

#

you have a lot of ruin 2's

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 7:57 PM

#

https://gyazo.com/1672ffbed60deac1c9963cdc7d2f4a70

Gyazo

#

unacceptable memery

#

the ast has 52% uptime

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 7:59 PM

#

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lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:00 PM

#

i just tried to post a screenshot of their xiva and discord blocked it as explicit

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:00 PM

#

stop posting porn vis

#

gosh

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:00 PM

#

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https://gyazo.com/7016a6275d283f826ba2902d81903ac6

#

does the ast have a disability that doesn't let them press buttons

#

so basically tl;dr the ast is shit and you're solohealing so don't expect a good parse

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:02 PM

#

do they get a pass for having the flu

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:03 PM

#

no

#

are they actively dying because of it

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:03 PM

#

aren't we all dying all the time thinkernetExplorer

#

but yes

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:04 PM

#

no like irl

#

are they actively dying because of the flu

#

rendering them unable to press buttons

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:04 PM

#

but yeah Ruin II is bad and I'm paranoid about Miasma II MP burn

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:04 PM

#

you got 2 ranged

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:05 PM

#

also you had 3 minutes of aetherflow drift

#

that's like. 4 aetherflows

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:06 PM

#

burn your aetherflow on energy drain if you aren't going to use them in the 45 second window you have

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

stonk

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

also you didn't use fey covenant or illumination which are both strong af

#

oh wait i'm looking at healing idk eos fflogs

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

(I've been plugging Chaos so I'm not super-dead)

#

er, pugging

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:09 PM

#

can also use fey union more

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:09 PM

#

yeah it's so much free healing

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:09 PM

#

illumination I need to use more often though

#

that I'm 100% guilty on

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:10 PM

#

you got like 360 fairy gauge and only used like 100-130

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:10 PM

#

hey, maybe we would have had more than 2 people alive at the end with that

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:10 PM

#

also you don't need to heal the first akh morn

#

you have like

#

13 forms of mitigation there

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

#

(assuming that's my most recent midgardsormr clear, phoneposting is hard)

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:11 PM

#

you can also use rouse more

#

since tanks get yoten by autos a lot

#

earth shakers / thunderstorms

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

#

2 rouses in 10 minutes oof

#

it doesn't buff anything just use it on cooldown

#

only embraces

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:12 PM

#

you also have a lot of succors

#

you can just have your ast aspected helios to top you off for the next set of mechanics

#

or whispering dawn

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:14 PM

#

Rouse is basically a "hey, neutralize autoattacks for a while" button now?

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:14 PM

#

!action rouse

storm frostBOT Dec 24, 2018, 8:14 PM

#

**Rouse** : lvl 42 ACN SMN SCH (60.0 second cooldown)

Increases healing magic potency and damage dealt by pet by 40%. While roused, pet will be immune to Stun, Sleep, Bind, and Heavy.
Duration: 20s

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:15 PM

#

fat embraces

#

which also help top off between mechanics

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:16 PM

#

I'm surprised there's so much AF drift unless I got caught with stacks at the phase changes

#

because O10S playdead

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:18 PM

#

also i don't see any excogs

#

unless im 2 iq

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:19 PM

#

there should be a couple, unless I'm blind

#

(granted there should be more than that)

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:19 PM

#

should also tell your party to not be dumb

#

as you have a lot of lustrates

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:20 PM

#

there aren't (not trying to butt in)

#

not in the link you posted anyway

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:20 PM

#

excog is also more potent than lustrate and is better at instant healing

#

or you can have your ast do something

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

that's really weird, there's at least three spots I throw it on automatically

#

unless I was having a really bad off night

#

which is entirely possible

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:23 PM

#

well let me see one other place but it should show under healing

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:23 PM

#

yeah, it should

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:23 PM

#

nawp you forgot it paissaowo

#

the astro literally did nothing though

#

stood there a lot

#

enough for you to lustrate that many times because you felt it was necessary

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

basically the first thing you can start with

#

replace ruin 2's with broil

#

and have your ast use their tools more

#

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#

1 time dilation

#

1 CO

#

1 CU

#

2 lightspeeds

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:26 PM

#

and replace lustrate with excog on big tank busters?

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

yeah

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

save lustrate as a last resort heal if you need something in a pinch

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

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quaint flower Dec 24, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

tail end ablobsweats

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

either

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

it's easy to sit on it as a panic button but yeah

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

your tank didn't use the right cds

#

or excog could've prevented them from getting clapped

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

I had to look at it in a way that if I use it, it's being used wrong

#

if not for absolute emergencies

#

if you have to plan lustrates or use them on tbs (barring shit just getting real) something can change

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

(I'm used to working with much worse healing than that)

quaint flower Dec 24, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

95k is quite much though

#

380 ilvl?

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

it is

quaint flower Dec 24, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

Im getting 75k with bis

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

also

#

Fey Union

#

I'm really not sure when to use that in O10S outside of the add phase

#

because it seems like it's busters and AOEs

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

I use it between tbs in first phase, add phase, and during hot tail on the mt

#

after he takes a few hits

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

also talk to your party about their use of their mitigation tools

#

2 ranged 2 melee

vital cypress Dec 24, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

O11 has parts where he just smacks the tank for a while, especially early on, which are obvious use cases

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

you can feint + palisade tank busters

#

and your brd has 1 cast of troubadour

#

you can bump it to a minimum of 2-3

craggy gate Dec 24, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

you can do it on a tank that the excog proc'd for the tankbuster as a persisting regen afterward

#

I'm bad about fey too, in 10

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

so overall

#

more broil
have your other healer use their healing tools more
use your fairy skills more
have your party discuss when they'll use certain mitigation

unreal flax Dec 24, 2018, 8:41 PM

#

Yeah, throw away the "main healer" meme.

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

and utilize excog more yeah

#

just the first part, more broil would get you to blue

#

again there's probably more qualified people who respect content more who could give better tips

zinc vortex Dec 24, 2018, 8:46 PM

#

hello i respect content tell your ast to start existing

#

thanks nd bless u

#

have a nice chrimbus

quick verge Dec 24, 2018, 8:47 PM

#

wow there you have it

livid siren Dec 24, 2018, 9:30 PM

#

are there any "straight forward" fights that are good to analyse? In wow we'd call them a patchwerk fight, which was almost like just hitting a dummy

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 9:30 PM

#

chaos and final omega are pretty dummy

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what are you looking to analyze

livid siren Dec 24, 2018, 9:31 PM

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well, i wanted to test my single target dps vs logs, so that i can see what they're doing differently

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and practice on a dummy

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 9:32 PM

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you won't reach actual encounter dps on a dummy, being in a party already gives you more mainstat due to party bonuses, plus there's raid buffs present throughout the fight and more importantly in your opener

livid siren Dec 24, 2018, 9:33 PM

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that's true, but i'll be able to see what abilities they use and in what order, and % damage breakdown of each ability

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i understand it won't be quite right

lyric summit Dec 24, 2018, 9:34 PM

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depending on the job you can always just do the 3minute stone sky sea and put the log through xivanalysis to see if you're doing things wrong rotation-wise

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except some jobs have looping rotations that barely end the first loop at 3 minutes

livid siren Dec 24, 2018, 9:35 PM

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ok cool, i'll have a look into that then. Thanks!

novel fog Dec 24, 2018, 10:11 PM

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You know its very enlightening to read this chat

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Fishing for improvement and etc

stable basin Dec 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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https://www.strawpoll.me/17107497

Straw Poll

Which weapon should I get in eureka

Vote Now! [ast] [war ] [blm] [sch]

opal hollow Dec 25, 2018, 1:48 AM

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All of em

vital cypress Dec 25, 2018, 2:41 AM

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stupid question I should know the answer to

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fey illumination is applied to healing received, so it should work on SCH's aetherflow heals, correct?

quick verge Dec 25, 2018, 2:43 AM

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mmmmm no

lyric summit Dec 25, 2018, 2:43 AM

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nah pretty sure it's only GCDs

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like every healing buff ever

quick verge Dec 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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!action fey illumination

storm frostBOT Dec 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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**Fey Illumination** : lvl 40 SCH (120.0 second cooldown)

Increases healing magic potency of self and nearby party members by 10%.
Duration: 20s
When Obey is active, will only execute upon command.

quick verge Dec 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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yeah gcds only

vital cypress Dec 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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yeah

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I was reading the tooltip backwards for some reason

opal hollow Dec 25, 2018, 8:55 PM

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is there any point in assigning retainer jobs outside of wearing job specific gear?

vernal swallow Dec 25, 2018, 8:56 PM

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they need a job so you can send them on explorations. they can sometimes come back with rare/expensive stuff

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and gatherer retainers can farm some mats for you

dull radish Dec 25, 2018, 8:58 PM

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I'm assuming they're asking about assigning jobs, not classes. And yeah it's just for job specific gear reasons, no other reason in particular

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otherwise it's the same as them being set to classes

opal hollow Dec 25, 2018, 8:59 PM

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oh sweet thanks

high ether Dec 25, 2018, 11:44 PM

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asaholi

cinder bane Dec 26, 2018, 9:21 AM

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Ravioli

grizzled seal Dec 27, 2018, 11:39 AM

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is whm good for raids?

lyric summit Dec 27, 2018, 11:41 AM

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yes

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all jobs are good

grizzled seal Dec 27, 2018, 11:42 AM

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sweet

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for 8 mans too?

lyric summit Dec 27, 2018, 11:43 AM

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yeah

grizzled seal Dec 27, 2018, 11:43 AM

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great!

quick verge Dec 27, 2018, 12:11 PM

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@grizzled seal hi fellow sch main

grizzled seal Dec 27, 2018, 12:13 PM

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ponder

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sch too hard

quick verge Dec 27, 2018, 12:14 PM

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just spam adwokeuium

lyric summit Dec 27, 2018, 12:15 PM

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fey covenant strongest cooldown in the game

quick verge Dec 27, 2018, 12:15 PM

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you mean

lyric summit Dec 27, 2018, 12:15 PM

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i do

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fey covenant

quick verge Dec 27, 2018, 12:16 PM

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excogitation at full hp

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but they don't drop below 50%

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exactly

full wave Dec 27, 2018, 4:35 PM

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@grizzled seal For the record, 8 mans are the raids

grizzled seal Dec 27, 2018, 4:36 PM

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I see, i come from wow, it's usually 20 there

full wave Dec 27, 2018, 4:39 PM

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24 man raids are the easiest in XIV

unreal flax Dec 27, 2018, 4:50 PM

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lol sup lksaar

lyric summit Dec 27, 2018, 11:37 PM

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almost got to heavensfall trio boiiiiii

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can't wait to be stuck on that for like 2 months

glossy musk Dec 28, 2018, 12:32 AM

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LOL nice Vis

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You're gettin there!

hybrid rapids Dec 28, 2018, 1:50 AM

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tenstrike and octet after is scarier

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blobsweatbutfast

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but you can do it

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umarucola

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 1:52 AM

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we got 27 hours of prog so far

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I was told 80 should be enough but there's only 2 trios left and add phase soulsurrender

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scary

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 1:54 AM

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and exaflare

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 1:55 AM

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namazupog

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 1:55 AM

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inb4 you say you won't die to it and you will

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 1:56 AM

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I'll probably try the kamikaze strat for the memes once just to see how it goes

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standing in front and just going through

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wonder if it works in o10s

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 1:57 AM

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it does

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 1:57 AM

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or are the golden exas smaller

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 1:57 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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maybe

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but there's like 90

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going across the arena

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 1:57 AM

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there's like 6

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and they go in pairs of two

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so there's like 3

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 1:58 AM

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close

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 1:59 AM

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go clear your neo and catch up to heavensfall ye

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 1:59 AM

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ur toxic

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elitist

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 2:00 AM

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I'm cheering for u

hybrid rapids Dec 28, 2018, 2:06 AM

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ain't you a caster?

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!whois @lyric summit

storm frostBOT Dec 28, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Vis Muh, The Ultimate Legend

Lalafell, Dunesfolk
Level 70 Summoner [Item Level 397]
<Froot> on Zodiark

hybrid rapids Dec 28, 2018, 2:07 AM

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ye, don't do that

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basically you need to learn 2 of the 3 common methods

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as in getting late to there, or being there early

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 2:08 AM

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yeah I know how to dodge exaflares tsun I was trying to meme

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 2:09 AM

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i know how to dodge exaflares too

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run into the wall

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 2:09 AM

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yoshiglasses

hybrid rapids Dec 28, 2018, 2:09 AM

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i should dodge you

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pepothink

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 2:09 AM

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im right tho

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can't get hit if you're dead

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 2:12 AM

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does the ucob arena expand on bahamut start or adds or golden

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I never paid attention

hybrid rapids Dec 28, 2018, 2:19 AM

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golden

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should say

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it's same

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since bahamut prime

formal nexus Dec 28, 2018, 7:36 AM

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Is this where I can rant about spoiler-y things?

hybrid rapids Dec 28, 2018, 7:38 AM

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anything about spoier goes to #archived-lore-spoilers

formal nexus Dec 28, 2018, 8:38 AM

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...

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I thought I was in #archived-lore-spoilers

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Don't drink and FFXIV, kids

blazing pelican Dec 28, 2018, 8:38 AM

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I highly recommend drinking and FFXIV

haughty mantle Dec 28, 2018, 1:35 PM

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☝

copper portal Dec 28, 2018, 2:20 PM

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So, what minimum iLV can we expect for the next raid?

high ether Dec 28, 2018, 2:20 PM

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for 5.0?

copper portal Dec 28, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Alliance raid

high ether Dec 28, 2018, 2:20 PM

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30 higher than the last one, probably

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ilvls always increase in increments of 30 for tiers

wet stag Dec 28, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Probably 370? THONKING

copper portal Dec 28, 2018, 2:21 PM

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365?
Alrightm then I don't have to worry about gear

wet stag Dec 28, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Oh close enough blobcatgooglyshrug

rapid sapphire Dec 28, 2018, 4:23 PM

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i kinda wish zurvan v2.0 (super danger noodle) ex wasn't i385 but I'll live sofieRIP

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 6:34 PM

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wow this is new

📎 unknown.png

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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hot

vital cypress Dec 28, 2018, 6:56 PM

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don't doxx me please

stable basin Dec 28, 2018, 7:09 PM

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meanwhile drk analysis on xiva is uhhh you left x mana on the table have a good day

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 7:09 PM

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honhonhon drk

stable basin Dec 28, 2018, 7:09 PM

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Except if you do well it doesn't even say anything

high ether Dec 28, 2018, 9:11 PM

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o10s is bullshit

high ether Dec 28, 2018, 10:49 PM

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does gaining 4 extra STR outweigh losing 32 CH as a DRK?

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 10:51 PM

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🤔

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i do not know

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try the tank damage sim

lyric summit Dec 28, 2018, 10:55 PM

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📎 oh.png

wet stag Dec 28, 2018, 11:24 PM

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@high ether it should

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the difference between unreal and fennek is how much healers have to move

quick verge Dec 28, 2018, 11:26 PM

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lul fennek defenders

wet stag Dec 28, 2018, 11:28 PM

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nah fennek is shit bc of healer movement

dull radish Dec 28, 2018, 11:28 PM

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not just movement, but positioning

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sending them out to narnia as far away as possible from the people taking the most damage throughout HW

high ether Dec 28, 2018, 11:34 PM

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wtf is fennek

grizzled seal Dec 28, 2018, 11:36 PM

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german tank :^)

dull radish Dec 28, 2018, 11:36 PM

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early on in alphascape a guy named fennek f'ox made rough guides for each savage fight, and he has a specific strat for Hello World in O12S, final omega

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when people say fennek strat, they are specifically talking about that strat, located in this doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/107H92rNRtMAzLGV5SixNHYzTyA5LloNqEvAVQLez2lE/edit

normal sable Dec 29, 2018, 1:19 AM

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Fennek is a harder strat with no benefits over traditional unreal

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modified unreal is a harder strat with actual benefits for tank/melee

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Fennek was first more or less decent and complete guide to the fight so most of people will stick to it until the end of world. Most of people are afraid of changing the strats, they just want to kill and be done with it

dull radish Dec 29, 2018, 2:10 AM

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yep

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meanwhile my group never took the time to swap from doing 134

inland ore Dec 29, 2018, 2:11 AM

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My group does unreal, except the synchro defamation positions are different.

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 2:11 AM

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I remember my previous group sticking to some garbo strat on nidhogg balls, even when Spyro was revealed because they didn't want to sacrifice few wipes to learn it

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ablobsweats

inland ore Dec 29, 2018, 2:12 AM

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Let's see what strat my group does for hot tail...

fringe granite Dec 29, 2018, 2:13 AM

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Cute pfp memories

inland ore Dec 29, 2018, 2:13 AM

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OT takes tether, stack on edge of boss hitbox on 3rd fireball, move back once the aoes sprout under you, then run all the way to 2nd fireball.

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Thank you.

glossy musk Dec 29, 2018, 2:38 AM

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Why do people not do line strat

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on o9s

dull radish Dec 29, 2018, 2:39 AM

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I'd be happy if people just consistently always did dps out in pugs

glossy musk Dec 29, 2018, 2:39 AM

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like you don't have to even move at all

dull radish Dec 29, 2018, 2:39 AM

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let alone actually doing line strat

glossy musk Dec 29, 2018, 2:39 AM

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it pushes everyone into the proper position

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automatically

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 2:39 AM

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I don't even know that strat because I am only pugging, no bulli

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most of times it is dps in, sometimes by some miracle it is dps out

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never line strat though

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 2:40 AM

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line strat is ascended

dull radish Dec 29, 2018, 2:40 AM

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line strat is melee hit each other with arm's length up, ranged an caster hit each other, caster knocks tanks/healers to other side of orb by the two melee

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since blaze is enough to cleanse the earth debuff for dps it's pretty dang convenient and you don't need to use the water donut at all

glossy musk Dec 29, 2018, 2:42 AM

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line strat

📎 line_strat.webm

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Notice how nobody moves at all for everything

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it just goes off and resolves itself

steep iris Dec 29, 2018, 2:42 AM

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cause people who don't understand the strat fully will fuck it up

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even if it's impossible to fuck up

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people find a way

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also it's much easier to put markers for the usual strat

glossy musk Dec 29, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Yeah but "usual strat" to pugs is dps in which is trash

steep iris Dec 29, 2018, 2:43 AM

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usual strat as in dps out/dps in

glossy musk Dec 29, 2018, 2:44 AM

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PUGs are scared of that

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 2:44 AM

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good strat but pugs does not have ability called ''adjustment''

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feel

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dps in name itself is also misleading as it implies it is uptime strat

thorn bear Dec 29, 2018, 2:53 AM

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I think everyone mostly does unreal now

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when I look in pf at least

dull radish Dec 29, 2018, 2:54 AM

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thankfully that's the case for NA yeah

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apparently EU is stuck on fennek

thorn bear Dec 29, 2018, 2:54 AM

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eu stuck in the past

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typical

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😎

steep iris Dec 29, 2018, 2:57 AM

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my static is eu then

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nyaissa

dull radish Dec 29, 2018, 2:57 AM

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my static is JP because we do 134~

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 2:59 AM

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soon EU gets rid of most of bad servers

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so maybe

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things will improve

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feel

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:00 AM

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NA best dcs?

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pog

vital cypress Dec 29, 2018, 3:16 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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finally got a second orange parse

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confuoot

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:28 AM

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god

📎 unknown.png

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:30 AM

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blobangery

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:33 AM

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i really don't like fof opener in final

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i thought i could pop off

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Im not using fof opener in final because if you get blue tether your spirit rotation is fuked

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Just like with UwU. Goring > Requiescat > FoF

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Also using Requiescat as a opener lines nicely with HW if you get red debuff

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but I am just casual feel

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:43 AM

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uhhhh

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you can largely ignore the blue tether

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just with slidecasting

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and being on the other side of the diffuse

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the real issue is that

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if you start FoF

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your requiescat will align with the monitors

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so you're very close to getting oneshot

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even with reprisal

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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what

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sheltron is enough for monitors

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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yeah and you can't block if you're in the middle of a req cast

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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What

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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HS*

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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SO THIS IS WHY IT SOMETIMES DOESNT WORK

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I NEVER KNEW TTHIS

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:44 AM

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yeah

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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I was always wondering why sometimes Sheltron is ignored

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:45 AM

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you need to get like

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latent in HW

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if you want minimal drift in the rotation

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which then allows you to maybe

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end requiescat before monitors

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so yeah requiescat opener is a lot better in most settings

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:46 AM

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how about using wings

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between HS

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they give 100% block rate

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and in 4.4 they are instant

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:46 AM

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it'd be no different than popping sheltron then

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:46 AM

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I mean the 15% buff for party lasts few seconds after you end them

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:46 AM

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your HS casts would have to end up ending, or starting right as the cast bar ends

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:46 AM

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so maybe the same with block rate?

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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n

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it disappears like

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instantly

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unlike the defensive buff

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which persists

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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just ask for apo

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quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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pugs

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quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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feel

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:47 AM

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so without any actual math to prove my claims

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frik fof

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😏

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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I dunno FoF looks bad if you get red debuff

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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yeah

quaint flower Dec 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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you will spam shield lob

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feel

quick verge Dec 29, 2018, 3:48 AM

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HW in the end oofs either FoF or req

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you either get rescued in the middle of the cast

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or you lose like

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a gcd

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fof is better if you get latent which is random

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because you can slidecast HS to your defam spot