Yes
#endgame-lounge
wet stag
daring berry
even if it got nerfed, there will be newbies that get rekt by tidal wave anyway.
hybrid rapids
you can rescue 
fossil basalt
we cleared o10s \o/
stable basin
Time for chicken tenders
fossil basalt
indeed
vital cypress
we got through it a couple of nights ago
which is good because i'm patently not good enough to clear O11S
stable basin
11s mechs much easier
vital cypress
O10S was just execution (and fighting the server)
O11S I can't even
what is this
vital cypress
you're forgetting that i'm bad though
but yeah we got to level checker last night and what
normal sable
level checker is pretty easy
just take like 3 or 4 pulls getting the mechs down
it mostly fails becuase the inner circle guys don't leave right away after their meteor pops
stable basin
People see magnets and go full ICP
half surge
what happens when I convert pentamelded accessories? do I get all the materia back?
steady pebble
no, you need to remove them first
game should give you a warning when you try to convert
half surge
I see. thanks
blazing pelican
!whologs @blazing pelican
storm frostBOT
blazing pelican
Worst. Week. Ever.
steep iris
y
blazing pelican
No improvement. Group were complete morons all through 10 and 11.
wet stag
At least you guys have cleared final 
scenic patrol
a clear is a clear
hybrid rapids
improving from weeklies
🤔
If you runs once per week, shouldn’t expect for improvement but kill
Unless weekly kill + optimizing
rugged crag
watch me as I get my pb with pugs
tbh at this point everything will be my pb I'm grey as shit
<w<
hybrid rapids
what's a pb
rugged crag
personal best
hybrid rapids
hybrid rapids
bronya lala big fans
wet stag
I believe in u
quick verge
Level checker is 30x easier if you have everyone spread out to a card/intercard so you can see who you're tethered with
blazing pelican
or spread out into a circle and split the group tanks/heals one side, dps the other
oh I totally misread that
wet stag
Idk tbh
hybrid rapids
log run called as 断章目的 if you cleared
if you doing completion, but no log
箱気にしないの方どうぞ
For those who won't mind for chest
it can be 0 or 1
or just Faye said
箱なし
not sure if it stated in JPguide
but you can take a look
!faq jpguide
storm frostBOT
wet stag
I always see 箱なし
hybrid rapids
ye, it's words basically
don't have a fixed one
depends on how you wording it
as long as people can understand it
then it's fine
but for those cleared, and only do log run
断章PT is the correct term
aim to clear but don't mind chest = 箱なし
waxen wagon
during the 4th phase of OS11 when the second larboard/starboard is casted without a cast time, will the boss ever cast larboard x2 or starboard x2 like in the first phase?
torn kindle
Larboard/Starboard Wave Surge Cannon [sic?] always does it to where you have to go to the other side
if thats what you mean
waxen wagon
ah
wet stag
Wave cannon surge
torn kindle
I got the words right, at least!
waxen wagon
yeah, that's what i meant. i had trouble figuring out how to explain it...
wet stag
Yeah as soon as the castbar disappears just run
waxen wagon
what's the larboard/starboard in phase 1 called?
waxen wagon
ok, so for wave cannon, depending on what his second cast is, you either move or stay.
for wave cannon surge, you always move to the other side after the first cast right?
torn kindle
yes
waxen wagon
thank you very much!
tardy ginkgo
@hybrid rapids
torn kindle
👀
tardy ginkgo
costed me a mil
torn kindle
Show us the many piles of sand you acquired.
tardy ginkgo
oh those i vendor sold em lol i had like 500+
hybrid rapids
that was fast
But won’t be hard to earn a mil back
Especially selling water cluster, it cost like 400~800 here per piece depends on if major patch hits
rugged crag
wat
hybrid rapids
Bronya lala, you can check
hybrid rapids
Water cluster worth a lot
Because it’s the only one can’t gather
The rest can gather from ephemeral
rugged crag
where is water cluster from though
hybrid rapids
You can save up a lot of it then sell on next patch
rugged crag
yea I just realized I have 1200+
hybrid rapids
I’ve earned from than 20 mils from selling cluster alone
But that was when Patch 4.0 hits
rugged crag
ooh
lyric summit
i love it when people join kill parties and are like "if bard messes up you're going to replace them." and "then don't get confused" "i'm not going to waste my time because you don't know where to stand" but then they're doing grey dps and have gcd uptime below 90% thanks
torn kindle
Of course, they don't want to waste their time, they want to waste everyone else's time.
lyric summit
they expect perfect pulls from PF like.. have you played this game before
zinc vortex
wat
zinc vortex
powerful alt
glossy musk
Lol we used to do that so we could sell runs
storm frostBOT
dull radish
powerful physical apoc
quick verge
yeah it was like
88% damage reduction
with buffed intervention + shadow wall + palisade and TBN
full wave
But did his TBN break
elder lark
I had a PF group tell me not to Palisade the Phantom Flurry... I didn’t ask why
steep iris
they like taking more damage
quick verge
probably
full wave
In my clear groups for Suzaku the tanks died so often to Phantom Flurry.
Like, twice each
pure yoke
how
full wave
No idea
pure yoke
I managed to survive Phantom Flurry once as a Paladin
with no cooldowns
so with cooldowns
should be easy
full wave
The healers may or may not have healed them
full wave
No they died before the attack even ended
boreal edge
its funny how sheltron can block all 10 hits
its funny how sheltron can block all 10 hits
steep iris
but does the sheltron mp return proc only once
opal hollow
It's nice that they made blood price give mana for every hit taken by suzaku tank buster
Gives content respecting DRKs something back
quick verge
smh should turn blood price into a jank vengeance
lament dawn
Does the Hello World damage ignore Raise invuln?
opal hollow
transitions go through raise invuln
wet stag
Also encumber
scenic patrol
and most mechanics in O4S
last galleon
ultimates always go through invuln
and hello world is technically final omega's ultimate
ornate blade
some things go thru raise invuln
like hot breath
idk about hw, but even if it does 0 damage if u dont move fast enough ull prob get unwanted debuffs
esp defamation
hidden iris
Iirc griuos have cheesed an ultimate by reviving during the damage calculation so they don't have HP to be damaged (i.e still in raise animation) so that they don't take damage but are also alive before the last raid member dies and thus resets the fight, it's wierd.
If I'm talking out my bum due to bad memory let me know know.
I could be wrong but I think I've seen the above done
hybrid rapids
it isn't a cheese
you will ended up wiping anyway
but it was a fun discovery
like, the platform didn't change
the boss was twintania ww
rapid sapphire
it was UWU enrage cheese, not T5/first phase of ultimate ham
waxen wagon
which direction is the dps suppose to face in order to survive the cyclone debuff during enrage?
waxen wagon
how do i survive it? i seem to be the only dying when it hits.
i made sure i was at full health too.
dull radish
when specifically are you dying? When the wind debuff is resolved and you get knocked up in the air?
wet stag
did you meld vit
dull radish
if you're sure it's to wind debuff and not earth debuff, then it's just a matter of not enough HP/mitigation for when you take that hit
there's nothing else to it
rapid sapphire
for cyclone @ enrage (o9s) my clear party just hard stacked up and hoped for the best (cure 3 spam and facerolling everything for max deeps)
I have vit meld + food though so I had an excess of caster hp
unique wolf
kill the boss b4 he finishes casting the bowels of agony 
steep iris
can't kill if everybody's dead by cyclone debuff at enrage 👀
i don't really expect most healers to be able to do that
steep iris
yeah
skipping enrage phase is prob out of pugs ability at this point
but at least skip enrage cyclone
quick verge
you only need like 36-38k rdps to skip cyclone in enrage
normal sable
if you can't skip enrage cyclone
you're probably not gonna have a good time in middy
lemme tell u
quick verge
Midgardsormr is like Kefka but you want to put your head through your monitor
blazing pelican
middy is fun and relaxing until you get the exaflare/akh morn combo that makes everyone drop their brains
this is assuming you made it past hot tail
quick verge
just clear before first exaflare/akh morn
just need around an 8:30ish time
!whologs @quick verge
storm frostBOT
quick verge
yeah you just need a 8:30
stable basin
Middy is relaxing and fun until you pull the boss
steep iris
@wheat gate i padded him
steady pebble
smh, biscuit getting padded parses
steady pebble
discusted
u wot m8
i mean, i can kind of see the logic of it
but at the same time, like if they're not really doing that great of dps then 
normal sable
not maximizing your dps by giving to highest dps
opal hollow
is there a reason why CDs don't reset when you go into a new duty
fringe granite
That's asking for a miracle
quaint flower
Memes aside you should be glad somebody is undercutting you by one gil instead by 100k 
quaint flower
so is Omega and yet it survives
opal hollow
Omega is a robot just tell him to solve a paradox
quick verge
why did my dad not come back from the grocery store
opal hollow
Hes out getting a new son who can clear o11s properly
zinc vortex
out getting a son who isn't a toxic shitlord gamer
quick verge
!whologs @zinc vortex
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
how far are you into O11S?
zinc vortex
log shaming
toxic
shitlord
gamers
also @scenic patrol if you were asking me and not biscuit i'm on pantokrator 
zinc vortex
real life likes to get in the way a lot :x
zinc vortex
i was on that for 3 weeks iirc
zinc vortex
granted, we only had like 4 hours of time in there overall those 3 weeks
scenic patrol
for me
zinc vortex
we had a 2.5 hour session a week back or so and we progged from level checker up to pantokrator very fast
it's just time constraints really
scenic patrol
I raid around 4-6 hours weekly
scenic patrol
zinc vortex
zinc vortex
2 hours a week here including weeklies
scenic patrol
and shit
zinc vortex
love me some irl
boreal edge
!whologs @scenic patrol
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
boreal edge
when did u go fem hyur?
zinc vortex
scenic patrol
about 1 week ago
boreal edge
!whois @scenic patrol
storm frostBOT
zinc vortex
nani
boreal edge
DDoS to RL cancelling nights
zinc vortex
ah
thank god we've only had that bother us once the past few weeks
2 hours a week btw yeehaw
i raid log too
boreal edge
active players subs spike up during eureka patches according to older luckybancho census
quick verge
pyros will be what saves ff14
heavy mist
Pyros will burn FF14 to save it
steep iris
lyric summit
static trial in 0chest o12s tonight when all my prog was wiping to 1st patch for 20 minutes
time for the ultimate carry
pure yoke
carry me
quick verge
carry me
opal hollow
Carry me
normal sable
quick verge
same
quick verge
can i join your static
pure yoke
no
quick verge
what was your dps
pure yoke
we are full
pure yoke
can join my Old School Runescape Static
lyric summit
clear is what matters issok
boreal edge
for some fkn reason i baited kyrios beam when i was taking cleaves in 2nd panto
and i wasnt tethered for 1st giant fists for 1st time in the very kill attempt
alot of shit went wrong there lol
quick verge
is there a big brain strat for earthquake for 3 melee
high ether
for 3 melee? I doubt it
maybe you could put the OT outside alone and tank through it with an invuln
and then have a healer inside with two dps
pure yoke
you could just arm length it
quick verge
i was thinking this
where
tank 1 and tank 2 go to normal spots with melee 1 melee 2
melee 3 and healer 1 pop arm's length/surecast
next to the boss
ranged 1/healer 2 do whatever
boreal edge
@quick verge are u doing it for logs?
quick verge
of course
boreal edge
mnk drg nin brd/mch?
@quick verge you could
healer1 and melee 1 stand left side of boss
tank1 melee 2 front of boss
tank 2 melee 3 go right side of boss
ranger and healer2 go left edge or right edge
need to keep middle stack out of the 2 stacks but enough to have tank 1 and melee 2 fit in it
fading kite
Who is ready for the next round of Eureka
stable basin
I haven't even done the first rounds of Euraka ;-;
uncut charm
me
fading kite
You know knowing that I have to do it again makes me cry though
Here's praying to God that with 5.0 is Relic they don't do whatever Eureka was again
stable basin
How do you even do Eureka? I'm confused by the whole thing. I went in, levelled up an elemental and killed one enemy with nearly dying.
hybrid rapids
it's basically a mini MMO inside FFXIV
you try to group up, level / spawn NM / join NM
repeat
go to next eureka
do the same
now waiting for final sequel
rapid sapphire
it's a love letter to the grinding and threat of ff 11 without the benefit of feeling like your time and effort mean anything
rapid sapphire
(trying to get drg equipped to something pretending to be best in slot and failing hard)
terse lagoon
free good samaritan title for any red mage with mount access
timid cobalt
Does Eureka really only reward gil? WHat a waste. I don't get it at all. Just make more dungeons.
Or do more friggin' Guildhests, I mean, you guys develop four-man instanced content, you can do more of those
I feel like Yoshi-P has had to really ease off his team during the SB era, they were talking about trying to keep the workload lower but the result has been a lot of half-baked things.
hybrid rapids
it reward equipment
mount, glamour, etc
it doesn't reward gils
but players tend to sell rewards from eureka to marketboard for gils
fading kite
tsun
normal sable
the only thing that makes you gil from eureka
is shiver from pagos
but gl w/ that lmao
normal sable
i thought that was hoh
fading kite
I rather have a piranha plant in Smash than do Eureka again
hybrid rapids
eureka is for equipment i guess
normal sable
i mean hoh is guarenteed money
hybrid rapids
but i can do ilvl 380
normal sable
because of mendacity tomes
hybrid rapids
also, dodo
normal sable
server depending
fading kite
Because of how boring Eureka is I'm only doing one Relic now
Hopefully with 5.0 they don't do this again
timid cobalt
What I'd like is for them to add more meaningful content instead of trying to find a new "thing" to try and foist on people. Like, for every Deep Dungeon, we have Diadem, we have Eureka ...
I mean, do you really think there can be too many dungeons? How about just add four-man primal battles? Rematch against Titan and Garuda with less players
lyric summit
they learn from their mistakes but they can't just scrap years worth of planning for the 4.0 relic, gotta commit
5.0 will probably be different
hybrid rapids
i think one of the problem is old content is dead
pure yoke
in windows
timid cobalt
Old Content has some limited life with roulettes and tomes but
Ultimately you really got to give more incentives to do old stuff. Up the roulette rewards, I say.
hybrid rapids
more on the game isn't friendly to new players, and left with old stinky players 😔
timid cobalt
The tiny trickle of high end tomes seems really restrictive and you're basically forced to hit cap a couple weeks in a row to buy the things you really need anyway, so why not give us more for doing the old stuff?
timid cobalt
I don't buy that people will cap out too quickly, because the boss fights and extreme/savage content, which is what you need gear for anyway, is sufficiently challenging so as for gear to only matter so much.
pure yoke
capping never feels like a challenge
lusty oak
capping tomes is chore
timid cobalt
It isn't. And there's no real challenge to dungeons after maybe the first couple of days.
lusty oak
with Eureka i can cap while snoring at least
pure yoke
I don't recall Dungeons ever supposed to be challenging
due to having to do it in Duty Finder
timid cobalt
But maybe there should be harder dungeons.
Granted, Deep Dungeons sorta hit that mark
But maybe have extreme dungeons for four man content
lusty oak
they stopped doing hard dungeons after Pharos Sirius nerfs
because monkeys could not hit silence on Banish III
timid cobalt
That dungeon was a huge pain for a number of reasons when it was fresh
But honestly, it's unique now, and there's not really any other dungeon that's got four boss fights like that
lusty oak
more like 3 with elite mob
timid cobalt
I enjoy the current streamlined dungeon approach, but that content is of such quality that I think there's far more incentive to try and explore what you can offer there
Rather than create pointless grinds
fading kite
Serious questions who has the best eyebrows in Final Fantasy 14
timid cobalt
People will keep playing the game to level up all the jobs anyway, particularly if you continue to provide a wealth of interesting combat encounters.
fading kite
Better yet sword
lusty oak
same
pure yoke
only job I didn't like leveling was Machinist
timid cobalt
That one's a bit bland too.
lusty oak
MNK has some fun with positionals
timid cobalt
I wanted to do a bard or something, but the ranged classes seem so slow
My Dragoon just does so much neat stuff
pure yoke
wait where
hybrid rapids
the balance i think
pure yoke
I see
timid cobalt
Actually y'know what this game needs
Is compatability with the PS4's voice chat option
pure yoke
timid cobalt
It'd be cool to be able to just use my own damn controller mic
as opposed to having to get a discord and laptop up
lusty oak
god no, its already awful when u get 2 french/german in roulette and they spam in chat
fading kite
Or
daring berry
except the game doesnt have voice chat so...
fading kite
You can just use the regular PS4 Party Chat
timid cobalt
Yeah but there's no way of knowing who is a PS4 guy and it's cumbersome
They should have the two things connect in some manner
daring berry
tag them like they do for sprouts xD
fading kite
Yes I hate to say but there is a way
timid cobalt
That'd begin the start of the console scrub discrimination
fading kite
When you click on a person still have their PSN ID displayed if they are on PC they will not display ID
fading kite
People on PC are unable to see PSN tags all together
timid cobalt
But t's still cumbersome
fading kite
But PS4 players are able to distinguish
daring berry
anyway, with how SE handles audio devices on FFXIV, i won't be surprised if they mess it up for any voice comms they implement into the game too.
unreal lance
Voice chat in-game is one of those features that sound cool, but wouldn't be worth it.
torn kindle
probably the shooter games
hybrid rapids
overwatch?
lyric summit
ye
hybrid rapids
isn't those games separated console and pc?
so, overwatch have ps4 in-game VC?
powerful
lyric summit
and all the other call of doody or whatever
lyric summit
callouts, carry a shitty pf
thorn bear
They won't listen even if you are in vc
Vc doesn't make bad players better
Plus if it was in game it'd be opt in
And u know people that won't bother joining a discord def won't be joining in game vc
thorn bear
Yeah in my static we have PS4 players and they either use phone
Or discord on their pc
opal hollow
Doesnt ps4 have discord too?
opal hollow
Oh only on xbox
stable basin
so whose ready for pyros to burn their days away ?
lusty oak
lyric summit
the only thing it'll burn is my will to play this game
lusty oak
missing 1 louhi ice fml i want to kissms
stable basin
you say that but fanfest is just a week away after this patch
think of all the hype and disappointment
lyric summit
pyros larp
stable basin
time to feel the burn
I just want there to be less disappointment for this year fanfest
lusty oak
tbh i wish 5.0 has no relic weapon
stable basin
hell just give people their 3 jobs and a new race and most people will be more happy
I rather they do a relic weapon that grows with you after each patch pass by
something more personal
quick verge
a horse d
wet stag
!whologs @wet stag
storm frostBOT
wet stag
new mf pb 
dull radish
nice <3
quick verge
get a pld and get the 69th percentile in omega
lyric summit
pld drk drg mnk
quick verge
pld/drk/ast/whm/mnk/drg/blm/rdm
lyric summit
need another shit healer job, 5.0 wishlist
quick verge
Dancer
lyric summit
zero raid utility
quick verge
make rdm a healer
lyric summit
but then there's no more useless dps
fringe granite
Not even close
lyric summit
no embolden rdm and no yukikaze sam
quick verge
no brotherhood mnk
no card ast
drg not using litany or disembowel so rdm can't do extra damage
stable basin
@stable basin relic weapons are nice but they can hinder new players or returning players it can do more harm than good to a game
fading shoal
what are some good classes to use for raiding for higher than average ping?
fossil basalt
what role do you prefer? dps/heal/tank
cloud bluff
How do they do harm when they're completely optional? O.o
cloud bluff
For casters I would say Black Mage (maybe Summoner?). For melee I would say Dragoon or Samurai. Physical ranged is probably out of the question, particularly Machinist.
oblique bear
I think this is the correct forum for this, so i just powered through the game for the first time, hit 70. Should I buy a 300 something crafted item from the market?
cloud bluff
Did you complete the main scenario questline?
oblique bear
yea, not post patch yet tho
cloud bluff
Keep going, you still have a bit to go even though you hit 70.
The latest dungeons will give you 355 gear and you can get 360 gear with Tomestones of Mendacity.
oblique bear
okay, so just continue with post patch and unlock new dungeons and do them and get mendacity?
cloud bluff
Yup. And if you're interested in raiding, unlock all of the Omega raids. Alphascape, which is the current raid tier, drops items from the normal difficulty which you can trade in for 380 gear.
oblique bear
Sounds good, is scholar a good raid content character? It's what i powered to 70 with
cloud bluff
Mendacity will get you started but you'll ultimately want Tomestones of Genesis which get you 390 gear, which you can upgrade if you get items from Alphascape savage difficulty.
All the classes are viable.
cloud bluff
The rewards are once a week, yeah.
For Alphascape normal, if you don't get anything then you can keep running until you get something.
steady pebble
should also add its only for current end-game raid
so alphascape normal/savage is the only thing with the weekly lockout at the moment
oblique bear
so i can do delta and all them constantly?
cloud bluff
Yup.
oblique bear
thanks for your help !
fossil basalt
let's say, hypothetically, that i am a colossal scrub who doesn't use potions
and consistently parses in the mid 30's to lower 40's
how much of an improvement would pots make by themselves?
last galleon
Pots alone will not make you blue unless you’re already borderline
I’ve had crit/dh rng put me higher on potless runs
@pure yoke do you have a clip of 10s lb3 orbs?
quick verge
pots won't do anything if you aren't competent at your class and know when to use them
lusty oak
everyone ready for Pyros dumpster fire?
elder lark
Same
quick verge
i still have to get 35 in pagos before i erp as a cure paladin in pyros
storm frostBOT
stable basin
feels bad
Kupo bot loaded and then un-loaded 🤔
Anyways we did a weird strat for panto 2 and healers didn't handle my LD properly then I got back up and derped out on star/lar and got grey lol
stable basin
yeah
last galleon
grey with death is understandable, who cares about first clear parses anyways
vocal umbra
L> a parse where i don’t die for some stupid reason 
pure yoke
Same
cloud bluff
L> a new static
quick verge
L> a static
fringe granite
Idk about super high end scholar but I don't
last galleon
single weave i think you'd clip broil instead of using ruin 2
because the potency discrepancy is ridiculous
coming from SMN, that is a weird mindset i agree
on the flipside SCHs have fewer oGCDs, outside of the opener i don't find myself going through a lot of consecutive weave windows
i mean technically adlo has a shorter than GCD cast time which mitigates the clipping a bit, but that's more situational than anything
SCHs don't really use GCD heals most of the time anyways
the thing that really bothers me about SCH going from SMN though
are the dot timers
i keep clipping my bio because haha reapplying miasma means i gotta refresh bio too right?
there's a reason i don't :p
only done sub 70 smn for the job quests
was it that bad post 60?
quick verge
summoner isn't tolerable pre 60
last galleon
i jumped my BLM to 60 and then leveled it normally, it didn't feel that terrible
steady pebble
blm imo isn't that bad pre 60
but its very simple
honestly, prefer 50 blm >.> but that's cos im a lazy fuck
full wave
I don't like long cast times. I miss 2.x BLM
full wave
@wheat gate It's actually worse than that. Firestarter doesn't proc until after Fire 1 hits that target. I wish it proc'd after the cast ends.
vocal umbra
is that not the case with everything?
not blm but rdm impact doesn't proc until after it hits
dull radish
firestarter actually procs at the point where you can slidecast, where the cast is considered "complete"
they specifically changed that, along with Flare, a ways back
was such a big thing
Flare applying stacks upon hit was big memes
yeah
coffer, and caster chest dropped too haha, so yeah haha
oblique bear
is sigmascapes crystaloid weekly locked
fringe granite
Alpha is weekly locked
dusty jungle
presume crystalloids is locked for weekly while rest of the loot isnt is why it shows reward collected
for the previous omega raid
normal sable
i've gotten 2 sigma crystaloids as recent as last week
in the same day
back 2 back o8n for a friend
should work fine
manic parrot
so how dead is pagos now?
opal hollow
pagos xp got buffed iirc, so people probably play catch up now
rapid sapphire
it's stil viable zone for getting glamor weapons (or preparing for pyros weapons if you hate yourself) and challenge log (if ignoring nm's until train is established in pyros)
glossy musk
Light was doubled awhile ago
manic parrot
yes it was doubled a while ago, but did they increase the rate at which you get it with this patch?
lyric summit
nothing implied any light buffs in the patch notes sadly
lyric summit
yeah they added one
rapid sapphire
yes 50 regular crystals iirc (since still need 500 regular for weapon)
plucky raptor
Where do you get the new demon horns?
rapid sapphire
check gold saucer (prize exchange 2). if it's not there then it's in pyros somewhere
plucky raptor
Nice, got a Qunari look I want on all my glamours with different horns
lyric summit
the newest ones are tradable and listed on the marketboard, so it's 100% from pyros
the two other versions added in 4.4 are from pvp and gold saucer
oblique bear
Are stormblood version of relic weapons worth getting ?
lyric summit
depends on the content you do, if you want something to do at endgame as a casual player because you're paying a monhtly fee then sure
dull radish
"worth" is always pretty relative and situational
lyric summit
if you're into more difficult endgame content, extreme trial weapons are basically as good, plus tome weapons are definitely better, just take 7 weeks to get one
and if you do savage then you can completely skip eureka
dull radish
it's also of note to figure out how much you might like/dislike eureka as well, as part of it
lyric summit
unless you want it for the looks I guess
oblique bear
How grindy eureka for the weapon. I was also thinking like bis ish style of worth
lyric summit
it's all grind
it's only gonna be bis at the final step of eureka in patch 4.55
and the only reason to go for bis is to get better parses really, and if you're going for parse runs then you'll definitely get o12s weapon/s months before 4.55
oblique bear
Mind my noobishness but what's a parse run?
lyric summit
there's a site, fflogs.com, you upload ACT logs/parses of endgame fights and you get a percentile showing you how many % of people did less dps than you
if you're just a casual player that doesn't touch savage, just use whatever highest ilvl gear you have, nothing wrong with it 🤷
when 4.55 drops, you get an i400 tome weapon just with tomes + 24mans, or you get an i405 eureka weapon just with dozens of hours of grind and frustration and blood and tears
brave maple
even then the weapon difference isn't gonna be massive
ie, it won't take you from 50th Percentile to 99th
it may take you from 98th to 99th though
lyric summit
same as a single aoe balance more
brave maple
lol
stable basin
if DRG get their little dragon pal back in 5.0 can we get a title call LOLDRG as the lvl 80 DRG job quest
quick verge
i got a dangerous o11s today
iron garden
anyone have a list of logos actions? i mean how to obtain them?
quick verge
try asking the eureka discord
iron garden
is there one? :x
fossil basalt
some of these Logos actions are pretty neat
Magic Burst: Increase magic damage and cost
Astral Fire for everyone!
Double Edge: Increase damage dealt and applies a self-DoT
maybe they'll start using eureka as a testing ground for new weird stuff?
zinc vortex
blood for blood but it can literally kill you by itself
quick verge
new cross role skills in 5.0
opal hollow
fix role actions so i dont have to be lv 50 before i can keybind everything
lyric summit
you can drag all the skills to hotbars before unlocking them
lyric summit
make a /micon macro for placeholders
scenic patrol
Depends on the need
If it's for out of combat things, should be fine
But in combat hotbar swapping is very iffy
opal hollow
i just like to set my skills at lv 30 so it's a tad annoying to have to keep the last 4 or so role actions in mind
more of a personal issue anyhow
quick verge
!whologs @quick verge
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
!xivwho @quick verge
storm frostBOT
quick verge
i had to update it
tropic jolt
is there regular lockbox glam armor drops from pyros? if so what's it a retool of?
lyric summit
the armor on the character in the relic glow gifs in #493156795179728902
normal sable
What took longest
thorn bear
Bets on o10
quick verge
level checker
lyric summit
"stack B move left" -> stack person goes opposite of group
wet stag
Tfw level checker actually took my group the longest to clear last night 
eternal mirage
Surprisingly o9 took the longest haha
We cleared o10 in one attempt
We were kinda dicking around at the beginning of o9 
quick verge
I can get a sustained 7k opener if I breathe really hard...
rustic lichen
Took like an hour and a half to clear 9/10 mostly cause waiting on pugs / me being distracted by little ones
Hopefully Thursday is better for 11
hybrid rapids
no worries
i took around the same
plus 11 and 12
took me around 2 hours and a half Or2
hybrid rapids
It’s funny that it took me 3 pulls to down o10s first clear
But then 5-6 pulls average to farm
Because everyone doing it on weekly basis
Slacking down after cleared
steep iris
o10s is always a bitch
normal sable
opal hollow
i just hit level 17 in eureka
how do i start the quest for the mount LOL
Krile isn't giving me a quest
steady pebble
did you give her a protean crystal
steady pebble
have you done any of the previous steps?
opal hollow
is there a way to check your quests from her LOL
steady pebble
no
opal hollow
i have no clue
steady pebble
because they're not 'actual' quests
you need to give her a protean crystal first to unlock the quests
opal hollow
hmm i have a protean crystal and i've talked to her
and nothing came of it
nvm
im dumb i think i know
torn kindle
How many magicite do you currently have on your wheel?
torn kindle
f
should've kept up on those quests for the magicite
free damage boost /defense boost
torn kindle
Each one is like +20% damage increase, not sure about damage reduction. I think all 5 give 50% damage reduction.
kindred bison
how to make O10S even shittier.
instead of just Hot Tail during bulwark phase
could also be wings.
honest yew
would a DRG-savvy soul say I am geared for entry into savage
normal sable
gear matters very little tbh
as long as it 's not like sub 380
you want some vit melds
btw
honest yew
So as to survive mechanics errors?
normal sable
you don't survive mech errors in savage
you die
but raidwides hit pretty hard
vit melds can save u from not being fully topped or someone missing mitigation
honest yew
Ahhh. Makes sense.
normal sable
If those crafted are already overmelded I wouldn't bother on those
But your neck/rings can be filled with vit melds till you're done progging
thats like 1500 hp there
+shakshouka that's like another 1500
you'll be nearing 54k in a party
honest yew
Yeh, wasn't gonna take out the overmelds. Should be getting another 40 or so vit from new legs this week, too.
unique wolf
meld vit on your accessories if you are afraid of dying to aoes 
boreal edge
valid gate
yeah i haven't seen or heard of that anywhere else
anecdotes don't really elicit much attention without logs to show it
boreal edge
i said what happened to me
and you are free to believe it or not
tho logs are there
and you can see in 1 of omega wipes how that happened
but whatever
lyric summit
game is weird it just be like that sometimes
quick verge
I have this bug where I die from full health to tank busters without cooldowns
thorn bear
TAIL END NO COOLDOWNS
boreal edge
inb4 later
devil's price say
there is no ddos and its just anecdotes by people and wont elicit much attention without logs to show it
crisp marten
wet stag
Yes
quick verge
faye did you pop off on this week's clears
wet stag
new pb in 9 but died in 10 and 11
hybrid rapids
powerful faye
carry pls
btw, do you know screenshot won't be taken as evidence nowadays?
dull radish
It makes it better haha
wet stag
waow
quick verge
fucking clyde
quick verge
I'm convinced 600 asp is impossible unless you're god
forest burrow
Ah
hybrid rapids
120 is max per fight
there're 5
so getting 600
means you're top 1 for all fight
forest burrow
Working on all doggos before I progress
hybrid rapids
good objective
forest burrow
Just need suzus
forest burrow
I paid 24m after 25 clears as solo tank w/ solo heal for loot master for tsuku
Worth
hybrid rapids
powerful determination
forest burrow
After 25kills with no drop
It becomes a major gil loss
As the time spent
I could make 50m easily
quick verge
Almost best in slot now 😔
quick verge
@hybrid rapids work your magic
steep iris
why do you not have m/f clear yet biscuit
quick verge
pf is dead
steep iris
no slacking
quick verge
I pretty much have to find a static or I'm gonna die from boredom waiting for a party to fill
quick verge
Biscuit Centrifugal
quick verge
slightly
rugged crag
anyone got pic of new hair?
steep iris
steep iris
!!
cute
also mfw i don't ever have to care about hairstyles
i only need 2 hairstyles
steep iris
!myglamour
storm frostBOT
fringe granite
Whatever happened to your clone glam?
quick verge
so the simplified m/f timeline is
limit cut, blade/shield, limit cut, blade/shield, and cheese with tank lb?
steep iris
ye