#endgame-lounge

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barren ember
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Ty o7

midnight hollow
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got a 76% on todays o9s

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highest ive gotten

hybrid rapids
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Keep it up

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o9s basically has 2 different set of rotations, but it’s actually fixed mechanics

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I think most PUG group wipe on crystal

midnight hollow
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crystal and EQ seem to be the hardest

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thankfully our healers were both pretty good

wet stag
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i am

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so mad

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died on my 9s clear

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wouldve been orange

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mistimed my pot on 10s

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wouldve been orange

quick verge
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Get an ast to feed you cards

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I played sch for today's 9s

zinc vortex
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9 ass

waxen wagon
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am i done with pagos quests after i get the cutscene from the griffin area? i haven't done it yet, but just wanted to know if there's anymore after that.

rapid sapphire
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after 35 that's it for now

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unless grinding ice and crystals is the true pagos end game

waxen wagon
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thanks!

lyric summit
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it's week 7 now right

normal sable
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yes

lyric summit
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i have 6 crystalloids yoshiglasses

normal sable
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tome weapons are a crutch

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reee

lyric summit
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after "progging" faust for 4 weeks and not seeing the LBs i'll take every crutch I can get

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shield too hard

steep iris
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@lyric summitsoulsurrender

quick verge
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That's immensely epic

quick verge
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i never realize how focused i am until cat walks up and grabs my leg

severe notch
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Cat cute?

wet stag
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Grats

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I was 120 dps off in 9s and 35 dps off in 10s

last galleon
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at least things have calmed down enough that you're no longer dropping 15 percentile at the end of the day

pure hawk
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Hey everyone, I'm looking to PUG o12s and was wondering if there's any thorough PUG strat guide that includes waymarks and thorough explanations of the mechanics I can apply to PUG groups?

scenic patrol
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NA or EU or JP?

pure hawk
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-NA

scenic patrol
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NA should use Unreal for HW

pure hawk
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oh im on the m/f part

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LOL

scenic patrol
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As far as I know

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I don't know about M/F

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I think the strats are the same for all regions, but I only heard about the peculiarities of pugging Final Omega

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With the shit EU strat

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Anyhow this is Unreal

pure hawk
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nice I do see that strat a lot in the PF

hybrid rapids
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Johni you killed o12s?

pure hawk
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are there pinned guides somewhere?

hybrid rapids
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anyway, o12s first half is about dashing

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NA/EU do prefers fixed as in MT group and OT group

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9:3 or 6:9/3 depends on group

scenic patrol
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Nah, I am about to start O11S prog

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😔

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!whologs @scenic patrol

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Chaos**

Warrior: (2030/9668) [4995 DPS] [79 Historical] [8:43]

**Midgardsormr**

Warrior: (1578/6863) [4385 DPS] [77 Historical] [10:19]

hybrid rapids
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basically odd number go opposite, even number stay

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is that middie?

scenic patrol
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Yeah, I am back to being Midlander

hybrid rapids
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i thought you were lizard or something

scenic patrol
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!whoami

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I was

storm frostBOT
pure hawk
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ty

hybrid rapids
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it's comfy

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pinned is the timeline of fight

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it would definitely help as well

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basically you have to know dashing and tank LB3 / DPS LB3

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tank LB3 if group DPS is good, so need no DPS LB3 to kill

pure hawk
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is that the normals trat for pugs? 1 person infront first?

hybrid rapids
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yes

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correct

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depends on your number

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odd number go opposite

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for example, 1 and 3 on opposite

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1 stand in front

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then after dash, 1 switch with 3

scenic patrol
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You can also spread the people around like MTQs does in her video

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But I think her strat is inefficient

hybrid rapids
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paissaowo i think nobody does that anymore

pure hawk
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thanks was looking for something like this to better understand it

hybrid rapids
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good luck on pugging !

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heard a lot bad things but don't give up

pure hawk
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all good im in no rush

scenic patrol
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At least NA pugs didn't choose a retarded HW strat

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Like EU

hybrid rapids
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what EU do?

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isn't unreal?

scenic patrol
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Fennek's

hybrid rapids
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who that lol

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let me check

scenic patrol
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Imma search for the gif

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Here you go @hybrid rapids

hybrid rapids
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it looks bad for melee

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and caster

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a lot movement involved

scenic patrol
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Look at the healers

hybrid rapids
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but doesn't looks hard

scenic patrol
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The healers are the worst offenders in this strat

hybrid rapids
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healers is fine since it's within cast range

scenic patrol
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Are you sure?

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That doesn't look remotely close enough to heal the stacks

hybrid rapids
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you definitely can heal

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but i would like to know hello world 2

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that's hello world 1

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maybe the bad happens during 2

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AST can star btw

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to heal the stack

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or just shield hard and HoT hard pre hello world

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which we prefer for now

scenic patrol
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It's a pug strat though

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What if you don't have AST?

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What then?

coarse radish
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How much control does an hq chigusa ingot add to a craft?

hybrid rapids
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shield and HoT hard is what we prefer now

scenic patrol
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It doesn't change the fact that this strat is quite shit in both uptime and ease

hybrid rapids
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yes, uptime is bad i do agree, but it isn't hard to execute

scenic patrol
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Healers had hard time healing Forsaken 1

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This doesn't look easier than F1 at all

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And F1 is zero movement

hybrid rapids
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@coarse radish depends on your item craft

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weapon should be 1912

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one HQ ingot

coarse radish
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I thought it was the same for all the 4 stars that use it

hybrid rapids
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is it?

coarse radish
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And im guessing that value holds true for the other 35s then huh

hybrid rapids
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let me check

coarse radish
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Working on pentamelding and i wanna skip as many corners as i can lmao

hybrid rapids
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should be 1912 ye

coarse radish
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Kk

hybrid rapids
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for weapon

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i don't remember other parts lmao

coarse radish
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Means i need 1650 control then rather than 1740 if imma make the stuffs

hybrid rapids
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have the balance crafting guide

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do you need it?

coarse radish
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Uh sure why not

hybrid rapids
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credit to the balance

coarse radish
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Oh this is worse than the doc i have

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Nvm

hybrid rapids
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lmao

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the doc is like few hundred pages tho

coarse radish
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Wtf

hybrid rapids
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it's both crafting and gathering

coarse radish
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Oh lawd

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Yeah uh

hybrid rapids
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from very beginning to end game

coarse radish
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Imma stick to the guide i have already

hybrid rapids
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so that's a lot

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sure haha

coarse radish
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So screw that jazz

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Lmao

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Ive deviated enough as is, that stuff wont help at all paissaowo

hybrid rapids
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only macro

coarse radish
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Yeah thats the one i stole off reddiy

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But ive already theorycrafted my own bullshit from that lmao

hybrid rapids
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ahh

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sounds good then

coarse radish
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Getting the 35ers hq is easy as a specialist so i can always just count them into the control pretty much

hybrid rapids
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i do like to make my own rotation from simulator

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because melding materia is an annoying step

coarse radish
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Yep

hybrid rapids
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like, minimum craftmanship required, control / CP

coarse radish
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I fucked up and lost a ton of gil so im salty

hybrid rapids
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lmao, usually i just lazy and follows what my friend melded

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he's a good crafter

coarse radish
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Not gonna bother hitting the perfect hq goal

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I have bad luck w/ 5s

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Took me 40 tries on a 17%

hybrid rapids
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the good ol' hasty touch day

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rath's rotation

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at least it's more control-able now

coarse radish
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Buying prereq mats is cheaper than buying the whole prereq

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So yolo

hybrid rapids
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ye, you don't have to perfect meld control

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just prepare 1 or 2 HQ materials should fix it

coarse radish
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Already pentamelded 3 items before realizing this

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Fml

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Just gotta finish up the math now

hybrid rapids
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good luck and have fun lol

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or just follows the guide, but it required full meld

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Or2

coarse radish
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Guides are for cowards

vital cypress
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fucking finally

opal hollow
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Will we be able to buy weaves with next 24 man raid or is it only accessories upgrade

boreal edge
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you can buy weaves in 24 man

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but not esters

rapid sapphire
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at least not until probably 4.55

opal hollow
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Sickkk

fringe granite
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Shellacs as well

quick verge
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I'm still under the impression that Scaevan Ester is a refreshing blue flavored drink

normal sable
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blue gatorade

lyric summit
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from nero's personal stash

quick verge
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the real reason nobody wanted Ryumyaku Polish was because it looked like ass

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but everyone would chug the Ester and immediately regret it

lyric summit
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Tide Pod Scaevan Ester challenge

normal sable
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It's technically a lubricant

quick verge
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erp item

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slathers scaevan lube on you

leaden lava
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Anyone else noticed that the clear rate for this tier's savage is rock bottom?

lyric summit
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it's only week 7

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and they did say that tiers are gonna be more and more difficult this expansion, unlike all over the place Alex difficulty

leaden lava
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Even for week 7

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the comparative clear rate seems drastically different

lyric summit
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o10s kicks casual ass

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and o12s kicks all ass

quick verge
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does o10s really

lyric summit
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estelle cleared week 7 I use that as the indicator of casual statics doing content

thorn bear
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Week 7 and we still working on cleaning up last bit after hot tail

blazing pelican
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Hello World 2 is perfect play or die >_>

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There's like maybe 2 things in o12s that give vuln stacks for fucking up and everything else just kills you outright

dull radish
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there's room for some minor memes in HW2 but not much yeah haha

blazing pelican
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!whologs @blazing pelican

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Chaos**

Scholar: (425/8518) [3487 DPS] [95 Historical] [7:37]

**Midgardsormr**

Scholar: (627/6967) [2920 DPS] [91 Historical] [9:00]

**Omega**

Scholar: (948/4516) [2796 DPS] [80 Historical] [9:55]

**Omega-M and Omega-F**

Scholar: (149/2997) [3384 DPS] [95 Historical] [7:02]

**The Final Omega**

Scholar: (338/1355) [2827 DPS] [75 Historical] [10:37]

**Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate)**

Scholar: (396/827) [1906 DPS] [52 Historical] [15:47]

blazing pelican
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wow I got taxed the fuck out for that M and F run

topaz wolf
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we all know taxes are fun

blazing pelican
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most groups bring a sch so I can make an estimate on how many groups have beaten the tier

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that's uh, kinda low

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more people beat godka by now

topaz wolf
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this tier is a tad more challenging for some groups

quick verge
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people getting yeeted on by lardbread and starbread

topaz wolf
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to be fair the naming of that shit is dumb

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while jp literally has left/right in the name

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we get outdated nautical terms

quick verge
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I'm pretty sure someone confirmed it's also star/larboard in jp too

steady pebble
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iirc all languages use the nautical terms

quick verge
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besides I have my secret weapon

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ACT triggers get fucked you dumb robot

wet stag
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in jp it's star and lar yeah

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but the jp term for star and lar has the kanji for left and right in the name

steady pebble
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so its not like they went out of their way to fuck over na

last galleon
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You could argue they still did by not using port

thorn bear
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They just wanted to to have board in the name

steady pebble
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and yet ppl would still complain

thorn bear
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😂

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Yeah cause nautical terms are dumb

steady pebble
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atleast with larboard i can remind myself larboard is left cos of the l

hybrid rapids
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left is unsafe

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larboard going right is safe xDD

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in JP it is worse, Left -> Go right, Right -> Go left

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very confusing them

quick verge
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the real cursed part about o11 is the ballistic impact

last galleon
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Just make the adjustment of ‘he’s facing me so I go the same direction’

quick verge
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people go full retard and stand on the hitbox

wet stag
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wow shit raid night

quick verge
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of omega

wet stag
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couldnt get past mf

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bc dcs

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also also tilt

vital cypress
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I'm a standard for bad now confuoot

hybrid rapids
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rip

quick verge
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is your monitor on

wet stag
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?

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yeah

quick verge
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can't be that bad

vital cypress
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joke's on you I'm on a phone

quick verge
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talking about e stelle

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I'm a paladin main btw

vital cypress
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fwiw, my current group cleared it in two weeks?

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and the only people with experience in the fight were me and the BRD

quick verge
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o10s is actually really hard tbh

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you fall asleep for the first spin and you go monkaS

thorn bear
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I hate the times where he goes untargetable

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Also spicy tail end

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When it's just pld taking all four

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Needing reprisal and feint

quick verge
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rampart + sheltron + feint 1st

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Sentinel + sheltron 2nd

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HG 3rd

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rampart + sheltron + feint 4th

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if you have like 73k hp then you're fine

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don't even need feint

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but you'll need instant healing because ehehehe tb + instant auto

vital cypress
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excogitation

quick verge
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yeah not having a sch and brd/mch in o10s is trolling

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expoggertation

vital cypress
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on that note

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I still need to find my MCH friend a home

quick verge
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the dumpster

vital cypress
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rude

quick verge
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don't worry they'll have company

vital cypress
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that's a bit harsh on summoner

quick verge
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with stoneskin

hybrid rapids
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😔

dull radish
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/soothe

dull radish
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see for me the weaves are like

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what else am I gonna spend the pages on

quick verge
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glamour

dull radish
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yeah, I really like that part of it, already need enough pages from 10s

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though, same can be said for 9s pages, unfortunately

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got two drops from there but they're both ones I wanna replace, and I need everything else as part of BiS I'm going for

lyric summit
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30% 2nd panto week7 better pad the drk in a kill party with some random bonus

quick verge
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what was their dps tho

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it had better be 6k the legend

stable basin
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Someone did a 6.45 as drk in tentacle omega

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poggers

quick verge
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that was a fat pad

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like the fattest pad i've ever seen

quick verge
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oh fuck.

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what is that ast doing

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tfw you would make the dps check if the ast wasn't afk

zinc vortex
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probably doing your mom

lyric summit
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it wasn't a dps check issue, but it's just retarded to pad your friend on a weekly kill (while also being party lead and allowing undergeared alts with bonus) anyways

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oh you didn't mean that log i'm bad at reading

quick verge
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huh

lyric summit
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huh

quick verge
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?

zinc vortex
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im lost

lyric summit
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what

quick verge
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from the log you posted

lyric summit
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oh lmao i didn't even see that

zinc vortex
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lmao nice

quick verge
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like that's actually epic

last galleon
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ASTs have cleared o8s doing like 500dps

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the bottom pit of healer parses can be quite scary

lyric summit
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ultimate legend btw

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my first relevant ex clear ever, sephi

quick verge
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susano ex

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eheheh xd

stable basin
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on Moonbitch

lyric summit
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i feel bad for y'all cause HW was so much better smh

stable basin
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My second clears on both were disasters lol

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Second moonbitch ex had 17 deaths and second train was sub 4k

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Oh and it had that BRD who stood in the OT spot for kiss when we moved on to 6s and bitched at me for passing it to him

quick verge
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hw sucked

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because pld

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xd

viscid shard
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what better for end game sch or ast

lyric summit
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all jobs are good, play what you enjoy

viscid shard
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right...but whats better

lyric summit
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for what content

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and what do you mean by better? more liked? easier? more fun? bigger dps? bigger healing? easier to find a static?

viscid shard
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whats more meta or core in static groups

lyric summit
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they have 2 healers, all combinations of whm ast and sch are equally as good

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so.. play whatever you like

wet stag
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Literally sch and AST are pretty equal

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Like

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It doesn't matter

toxic spear
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hey i just did hells kier extreme with 3 brds and 1 sam and after the 4 orb plase instead of enrage she went back to 8 orbs, but y is my question

wet stag
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Did everyone get 10 stacks during ddr

hybrid rapids
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do you have screenshots or logs?

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enrage is 8 orbs of same colour

toxic spear
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no it was just like the 2nd phase, she got over 20 on her gauge, she was near death and i didnt get a screen shot

wet stag
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I thought you only got that when everyone got 10 stacks

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Guess I was wrong

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Short answer is

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We have no fucking clue

stable basin
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Most speculation I've seen is that it's based on your dps but that doesn't seem accurate

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Also one guy I saw talking about the instance servers being so laggy they don't tell her to enrage on time which sounds like bs but ps3 limitations or something idk

lyric summit
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mm could be that she skips to enrage at some %

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I thiiiink I've seen non-enrage 8orbs after the 4orb sets once

stable basin
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I haven't seen extra geomancy since like first week but I also haven't hit regular enrage since then so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

boreal edge
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@wet stag its random

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@hybrid rapids

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she do another simon says if you didnt drop her below 20% after last colors

hybrid rapids
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i see

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had to be very low dps then

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thanks

quick verge
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how do ranged bait pantokrator dos

heavy mist
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u bait it by forcing the PLD/DRK to invuln it

dull radish
wet stag
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POGCHAMP

uncut charm
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Klappa

dull radish
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powerful

wet stag
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beat qoya pogChamp

uncut charm
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let me ping Qoya

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to knock you down

wet stag
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lol

uncut charm
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KappapHD

hybrid rapids
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powerful Faye

scenic patrol
quick verge
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finna make pf a better place by making 1 less tank bait missiles during panto 2

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eventually

rugged crag
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PogChamp

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meanwhile I'm top 5 worst brd Tonberry

wet stag
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you didnt have a drg

rugged crag
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brd

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yea

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600 dps gonn

lyric summit
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I'm worst uwu smn on zodiark soulsurrender

rugged crag
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noone look at uwu log anyway

lyric summit
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I'm top zodiark dps in suzaku tho 🤠

wet stag
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im top drk on tonberry that hasnt cleared 12s yet playdead

rugged crag
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powerful blobheart

wet stag
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the guy in 11th sucks at drk

rugged crag
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I mean

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after the 10th spot

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there aren't many drk mains

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lmao

zinc vortex
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me and my co-healer had combined #1 dps in the world on suzaku ex at one point

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for like

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5 days

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😔

wet stag
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look at this shit

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im so mad he's above me

rugged crag
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ofc

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he cleared 12s

wet stag
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i mean yeah

rugged crag
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that adds 80 points

wet stag
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i just need to clear to go up to 8th soulsurrender

hybrid rapids
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clear > parse

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you can't clear it = 0%

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also, he killed it twice already lol

scenic patrol
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If you clear while being carried, do you really clear?

cloud bluff
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The ✅ is a lie.

hybrid rapids
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depends on how do you define carry

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like, contribute far below average as your own job

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damage dealer with low 3k~4k DPS and getting kill

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but still, a clear is a clear

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you have book, weapon, mount, achievement

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conclusion, clear > parse

steep iris
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so many whm and sch on ultros

quick verge
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look

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kharlan lynare is the ultimate legend

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and im not

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bet

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lf> ucob and uwu static

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kharlan lynare is my sempai and i go >///< uwu when i see them in town

steep iris
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@quick verge if you can play nin

quick verge
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i can play

steep iris
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my nin isn't interested in ultimate

quick verge
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my nin is like level 37

steep iris
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but anyway we prob raid too late for you

quick verge
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what time

steep iris
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9:30-12:30 est

quick verge
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yikes

steep iris
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on weekdays

quick verge
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id rather not be a trick attack bitch for 90 hours

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t b h

severe notch
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Why not?

normal sable
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nobody enjoys playing nin

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Delete NIN

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a class that perpetually clips

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super fun btw

quick verge
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imagine clipping every 20 seconds

normal sable
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imagine learning that clipping is bad for every class in the game

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then having 1 class where clipping is a "feature" for non JP players

sonic olive
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Ninja main here

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Its not fun

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TCJ needs a rework

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I hate using it

quick verge
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meanwhile there's chad classes

normal sable
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oh yea

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they're also the lb bot

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aka non chad class

quick verge
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the chad classes of this game

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war blm sch mch

sonic olive
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mch

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🤔

normal sable
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sam is the chaddest of them all

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give nothing

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take everything

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literally chad

scenic patrol
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MCH....

quick verge
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have you ever played with a CHAD mch

sonic olive
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Have you ever played with a mch

normal sable
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OOF

quick verge
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yes

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several

sonic olive
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mch is a myth

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isn't real

quick verge
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i can hear them breathing heavily every 120 seconds

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also samurai gives slashing debuff

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beta class LUL

normal sable
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nobody loves their nin

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it's always is TA up

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hey we have LB

quick verge
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insert arthars clip

hybrid rapids
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SAM actually can replace NIN now

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They boosted it too much lmao

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Potency absurdly high per action

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But I do like doing dungeon runs with good SAM, it ends very fast

quick verge
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i play tank so everyone is forced to love me

hybrid rapids
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Actually I think we should say f/m

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m/f sounds like bad word lol

quick verge
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motherfucker

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fuckermother

hybrid rapids
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Ye that

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Shite

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But yes

quick verge
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fm radio

steep iris
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fothermucker

hybrid rapids
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Some group do prefer SAM over NIN

quick verge
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i prefer classes that boost my crit

steep iris
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as long as the player is good

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im ok

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but i need brd or mch

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no refresh is sad life

hybrid rapids
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or mch paissaowo

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Frey is kind player

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I thought people abandoned mch

steep iris
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my new static has mch

pure yoke
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Tsun

steady pebble
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there will always be a few who stick to a class

pure yoke
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I got omega katana yesterday

steep iris
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but she's really good at it

steady pebble
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even if everyone else hates it

pure yoke
#

For my alt that has level 0 samurai

quick verge
#

mch is dick to play but it still has refresh

hybrid rapids
#

But Mug, DRG is still in demand

pure yoke
#

I have two dragoons already

#

!whoami

hybrid rapids
#

True

storm frostBOT
#

Hyur, Midlander
Level 70 Dragoon [Item Level 394]
<stage four> on Balmung

hybrid rapids
#

No hurt to give a try on SAM

#

It’s being boosted much

pure yoke
#

!lodestone Jenova Frappelgar Boffee

steep iris
#

she's consistently orange unless she dies

storm frostBOT
#

Miqo'te, Keeper of the Moon
Level 70 Dragoon [Item Level 389]
<Trap Squad> on Jenova

steep iris
#

🅱offee

scenic patrol
#

Mug on Middie, big fan

quick verge
#

who is it

pure yoke
#

The second is my alt

hybrid rapids
#

Jenova

steep iris
#

just look at my final omega clear

scenic patrol
#

I have an alt on Jenova as well

quick verge
#

nice brag thot

#

is it cynthia

pure yoke
#

I'm no thot

steep iris
#

yes

scenic patrol
#

Oh, and you're with Trap

quick verge
#

fkin lucky

hybrid rapids
#

Frey is it hard with blm?

steep iris
#

no

hybrid rapids
#

Like, no extra raise

quick verge
#

just don't die

hybrid rapids
#

JP don’t like blm generally on progression

scenic patrol
quick verge
#

maybe because they die too much

pure yoke
#

No bully

steep iris
#

it goes both ways honestly

hybrid rapids
#

Double edge

steep iris
#

even with smn healers will still rez most of the time

#

and if healers no mana it's prob a wipe

hybrid rapids
#

I didn’t raise unless smn dead

#

He usually saved swiftcast, I know it’s bad for dps

quick verge
#

smn raising

hybrid rapids
#

But progress

scenic patrol
#

I think that trap are cool lads, it's just that everyone knows about them

quick verge
#

sounds like dps loss

scenic patrol
hybrid rapids
#

Progressing don’t have to care for dps

pure yoke
#

I am in trap because I am big fan of Trafalgar Billy

steep iris
#

and with my blm, 0% chance of hitting enrage

hybrid rapids
#

There’s no dps check, except all achieve and enrage

steep iris
#

true

hybrid rapids
#

Back in Midas it was scary dps check

#

People had to save CDs for it

#

The struggle of not using CDs in opener

#

a8s

#

I think it’s the only fight people actually saved CDs to use later instead of burst it on opener

quick verge
#

I like how 7k is green on mch

steep iris
#

Oo

hybrid rapids
#

There isn’t a lot mch

#

But I don’t think 7k is green

quick verge
#

Frey really has the squad

#

Caro Kann and Cynthia Nguyen

steep iris
#

in final omega 6950 is green

#

for mch

hybrid rapids
#

Ohh

#

Ye, final omega is true

#

3 digits mch now?

#

Or 2 digits killed

steep iris
#

292

hybrid rapids
#

Ohh

steep iris
hybrid rapids
#

That’s very little

scenic patrol
#

Lul

hybrid rapids
#

Meanwhile close to 2k sch?

#

Ye that

steep iris
#

yea, 1827 sch

hybrid rapids
#

MCH needs love

#

I hope they extend heat duration to extra 1 second at least

#

So I can do 6 GCD

#

It’s impossible for me now

steep iris
#

1241 ast

quick verge
#

same

scenic patrol
#

MCH needs to be redone

hybrid rapids
#

I’m practicing mch now tho

#

Mch has very cool animation

#

I think one of the coolest

steep iris
#

tsun mch main :woah:

hybrid rapids
#

I’m just bored

#

No ultimate

#

And close to end of year, slacking at work as well

steep iris
#

do you have ucob weps for all classes?

quick verge
#

I got aiming omega pants so I gotta play ranged now

hybrid rapids
#

No lol

#

Lmao

steep iris
#

o

hybrid rapids
#

We have like 15 class now

#

If including rumours 3 new class

#

That would be 18...

#

I’m on 7.....

quick verge
#

kill it 18 times

#

In one night

hybrid rapids
#

And ucob weapon isn’t pretty for all...

#

But I do like SAM ucob sword

#

And I have 8 UwU totems left

steep iris
#

There's someone on my server who got like 11? kills in 3 days

hybrid rapids
#

Killed it 19 times

steep iris
#

for uwu

#

probably bought

hybrid rapids
#

But around half has no extra totem

quick verge
#

uwu is easy though

#
  • person who hasn't cleared uwu
full wave
#

Do you remember how to do ucob and uwu?

hybrid rapids
#

We have muscle memory

#

Need to wake it up

#

ucob took me around 3 months time in total

#

I was doing it PUG

quick verge
#

pugs have cleared ultimate?

hybrid rapids
#

They do

#

And quite a numbers

#

Especially Mana DC

#

They have very strong PUG players

#

And prepared resources for PUG to follow certain strat

#

They had world top 5 and top 10 for ucob, uwu respectively too

#

PUG players...

full wave
#

I can't even get a farm party to kill Suzaku more than 4 times

steep iris
#

15 kills

hybrid rapids
#

It’s unusual to stick with a party to kill 4 times tho

quick verge
#

I should really try and grind o12s this weekend

hybrid rapids
#

We usually do 3

steep iris
#

is it bought?

full wave
#

Wow really

hybrid rapids
#

The person never raid?

#

It looks like some person piloted him

#

Very mono performance

steep iris
#

ya it looks like piloted

full wave
#

I guess that makes sense. With pug dps 3 kills is like 30 minutes. That can get repetitive.

#

15 Clears? Buying that much would be like $5000

#

👀

steep iris
#

could be a package deal or something

quick verge
#

preorder alphascape now

full wave
#

Anyone got that blob sweat emote

hybrid rapids
#

I said that because the group called as lalaland

#

And he’s a high lander Male

#

🤔

#

But just guessing

#

Might be friend help or he cleared himself

scenic patrol
#

I have like 10 BlobSweats emotes

hybrid rapids
#

Since most people who actually bought the clear won’t upload or go anonymous

scenic patrol
#

At least

hybrid rapids
#

You can have them in single line, so won’t be so spammy

scenic patrol
full wave
#

But ya I can't imagine buying content with real money

zinc vortex
scenic patrol
#

Imagine selling to 8 people simultaneously

hybrid rapids
#

When you have work, and have no time

scenic patrol
#

That's some nice cash

hybrid rapids
#

Some people even hired player to play game for them lmao

scenic patrol
#

300 bucks for 30 mins of work

#

Tsun, I am quite sure 99% of Ultimate sales are pilots

#

Heck it would probably cost extra to do a none piloted sale

#

You can't

#

That's exactly the problem

hybrid rapids
#

Idk, I never bought one

#

It’s all assumption

scenic patrol
#

Neither did I

#

But I have raided long enough

hybrid rapids
#

But there’re carry parties

scenic patrol
#

To know some folks

hybrid rapids
#

They ask for gils

scenic patrol
#

That do sales

hybrid rapids
#

Since extreme

#

They carry you, mount drop for you

#

But you have to pay in gils

#

It happens in large population server

#

But ultimate carry is sweat

pure yoke
#

Not really anymore

hybrid rapids
#

People do hire players who cleared ultimate

#

To help progress or sub their group

#

Paying them some gils

#

I guess most hiring now more on crafters / gatherers

#

Paying gils to ask new set equipment within 3 days week 1

full wave
#

The only way to sell Ultimate is RMT

scenic patrol
#

And pilots

#

Both are ToS violations

hybrid rapids
#

I do agree ultimates are very time consuming

#

Especially ucob

quick verge
#

can i sell ultimate with s u c c

#

buy*

scenic patrol
#

That would require 8 succs

#

Are you ready for that?

quick verge
#

sike not as thot as i thought

scenic patrol
#

That would be the minimum price

hybrid rapids
#

Is the current tier difficult or more on player problem?

full wave
#

Alphascape is the hardest tier since Midas tbh

#

It isn't anywhere near Midas though

hybrid rapids
#

I think creator do harder than Midas tho

#

Erm

#

Alpha

#

Sry

#

Creator do harder than alpha tho imo

quick verge
#

alphascape isn't that hard

#

o9s is sleeper

#

o10s is ponder

hybrid rapids
#

It’s comparable with SB savage definitely

full wave
#

The pugs disagree

quick verge
#

o11s is easier than o7s

pure yoke
#

Blind prog was harder

hybrid rapids
#

Blind is definitely harder

#

(Excluding players data-mined and figured all enemy’s actions + 3rd party tool to record timeline

pure yoke
#

Even with datamining

#

People took a bit to figure out hello world 2

full wave
#

More complex

hybrid rapids
#

Rotations definitely simplified a lot now

pure yoke
#

Imo

#

The enrage in creator was a legit joke

#

Week 1 A12S kill had like

#

10 deaths

#

With hard raises

hybrid rapids
#

Ye, dps check is simple

#

Because players complaint

full wave
#

Creator also allowed phase skips. I don't think phase skipping has been possible all of Stormblood.

hybrid rapids
#

I meant HW rotation more complicated but more on dps job

pure yoke
#

Stormblood doesn't have skips because of the problem skips caused in hw

hybrid rapids
#

Healers and tanks always simple, but some healers had to keep up DoT which is annoying

quick verge
#

i heard that cruise chaser could change week to week depending on your rdps

pure yoke
#

You can skip the hardest mechanic in a12s week 2

#

A11S also got funky

full wave
#

Skipping Lapis phase shaved off like a whole minute didn't it?

hybrid rapids
#

You can skip o11s panto 2 now tho

quick verge
#

barely

hybrid rapids
#

It isn’t easy to skip lapis

full wave
#

When you say skip, do you mean he does a mechanic that would be done after panto 2?

hybrid rapids
#

You have to hold dps and burst at last moment

pure yoke
#

I mean compare the final fight of every tier

full wave
#

Or are you just killing him before panto 2

pure yoke
#

You cant skip second hello world

hybrid rapids
#

I meant skip as in killed it before

#

Sry

#

Not actually skip

normal sable
#

i saw a stream

pure yoke
#

You can't skip 2nd/3rd forsaken

full wave
#

Oh well ya that's impossible to avoid

pure yoke
#

Can't skip grand cross omega

normal sable
#

of omega dying right during panto 2

#

it aint RIGHT

full wave
#

But I'm talking about "skip Soar" type skipping.

hybrid rapids
#

I had a kill during panto 2

pure yoke
#

You also have alot more gear

normal sable
#

o11s is hilariously easy if you kill it before panto2

hybrid rapids
#

I don’t think any is skip-able

normal sable
#

considering thats pretty much the hardest mech

quick verge
#

panto 2 isn't hard

#

hardest mechanic is giant fist

normal sable
#

pls

#

they say one day

hybrid rapids
#

Blind progressing is always hard

normal sable
#

the secrets of big fist will be revealed

full wave
#

inb4 next expansion boss HP stops at 1% until after mechanics finish

hybrid rapids
#

Since you have to make strat yourself

quick verge
#

that'd be dumb

full wave
#

It would be. But it would also be funny

normal sable
#

i think whats worse is

#

when guides come out

#

and they have really bad strats for mechs

hybrid rapids
#

That happened

normal sable
#

like mrhappy tsukuyomi

hybrid rapids
#

And people still follow

normal sable
#

or mtq panto 2

hybrid rapids
#

As long as it works

#

o8s cross strat

full wave
#

Oh god

hybrid rapids
#

Is popular among PUG

full wave
#

I wish they would make update videos

hybrid rapids
#

It’s their strat

#

At least they did blind progress and made their own strat

#

The game is dead if everyone waiting for guide only

normal sable
#

line strat clownka still gives me nightmares

#

and horizontal virus

full wave
#

Ya but the thing is guide makers have good players, so they can afford to have bad strats. Pugs not so much.

quick verge
#

horizontal virus

#

huh?

normal sable
#

its' the same thing as regular virus

#

but rotated 90 degrees

#

it's fucking retarded

hybrid rapids
#

Eventually there will have PUG strat modified from theirs

#

Brainless and safety first

quick verge
#

my favorite pug strat for o11s is bringing a brd/mch

hybrid rapids
#

So they are the pioneers

#

A lot PUG can do mechanic but can’t do dps

#

I still seeing 4.8k~5.5k dps

#

Like 4 of them...

#

In o11s usually

quick verge
#

y i k e s

stable basin
#

srs question, what makes line strat clownka bad

quick verge
#

jp flamed

stable basin
#

I got in late in the tier and only ever saw box

#

Seems like line would make it easier for dps to dodge puddles

hybrid rapids
#

I did line strat only

#

It’s bad for uptime

#

But you can modified it a bit

#

Like strat is common in JP PUG

quick verge
#

reminder that low uptime strats are bad

hybrid rapids
#

Like 9/10 party do line

stable basin
#

How much uptime do you lose

hybrid rapids
#

Most NA/EU players focus too much on their own performance

stable basin
#

Cause he's gone when you're doing the running around

hybrid rapids
#

Rather than overall fight

#

Which ended up wiping to same mechanic again and again

#

PUG do prefer safe strat here

#

Because you can progress further and eventually see the whole fight

#

then adjust dps and rotation after

scenic patrol
#

@normal sable nothing can be worse than Fennek's HW strat

hybrid rapids
#

Johni you never did hw yet paissaowo

dull radish
#

I dunno, 1-3-4 is pretty interesting strat for HW

hybrid rapids
#

They spreading 1-3-4 now

#

But we want to delete it hahaha

#

It’s a PUG war

dull radish
#

it's like, not awful, but man do you have to have the waymarks just right

scenic patrol
#

Yes

#

Doing level checker now

quick verge
#

pog checker

hybrid rapids
#

Yes, don’t have to as explicitly as o11s big fist mark

#

But if you have it wrong, then circle would hit others

quick verge
#

yes

scenic patrol
#

No idea

#

I don't pug

dull radish
#

thank goodness pugs adjusted to that instead of the original strat

#

it's so much cozier

quick verge
#

just go north/south depending on the tower positions and go cw

hybrid rapids
#

Never heard cw, interesting

#

cw is better?

quick verge
#

ofc

hybrid rapids
#

Had only did clockwise

#

East/West

#

Then Clockwise

quick verge
#

what

#

que?

hybrid rapids
#

Level checker

dull radish
#

cw = clockwise

hybrid rapids
#

Ohhh

#

Sry

#

I thought counter clockwise

#

Not good with short form

dull radish
#

ccw = counterclockwise

#

but yeah, it's cozy because first two towers are immediately safe to stand in

quick verge
#

the best strats are the ones where i can save my remaining 3 brain cells for mashing dps buttons

hybrid rapids
#

Can you eat it? Or instant kill / confuse ?

quick verge
#

damage up

#

but purple

#

uwu

hybrid rapids
#

I miss back in creator being a BLM main to figuring which aoes isn’t lethal

#

So can just manaward it etc

quick verge
#

eating a reformat is only a dps gain if it dies in like 3 seconds iirc

hybrid rapids
#

I think it’s fine to eat it

#

As long as it’s a gain

#

Like, won’t give damage down etc

quick verge
#

i eat lat/long if i don't feel like moving

scenic patrol
#

Eat em both up

#

Do the mechanic correctly

hybrid rapids
#

Eat them both if you going to brew a coffee?

quick verge
#

tank privilege

#

i can't wait for next week 😩

#

my dps is gonna be so fat with the i400 weapon

#

i want to find a m/f party

#

tbh

cloud bluff
#

I want to clear O10S.

timber viper
#

Next Patch is in Dec or jan??

#

4.5..

quick verge
#

i think odds go opposite side or something

cloud bluff
#

No info on 4.5 They only just announced 4.45 recently.

steady pebble
#

assuming they follow hw's timeline, 4.5 will likely be in jan

#

but we don't know for certain

quick verge
#

you assign 2 groups of 4 to attack m/f

timber viper
#

And 4.6 mayhap in March or April
Otherwise

steady pebble
#

4.6 is highly unlikely

timber viper
#

It's straight to 5.0 in Summer 2019

#

Can't wait!

quick verge
#

once numbers appear the odd numbers go to the cardinal opposite of where m/f are

timber viper
#

I haven't even done post SB story..i'll wait till 4.5 is out and then do Omega raid in 5.0

scenic patrol
#

But why?

sonic olive
#

How fun is o12s?

#

Just starting prog now

quick verge
#

Sagittarius Arrow?

#

Optimized Sagittarius Arrow?

#

the amount of times i get to use tank lb3 this tier is

#

intoxicating

scenic patrol
#

I like it tbh

quick verge
#

4 entire times

stable basin
#

My static unironically used tank lb1 for exaflare akh morn in our first 10s clear

scenic patrol
#

Lul

#

I might do that at some point

#

The second combo of that is spicy

quick verge
#

tank lb3 the enrage

#

instant blacklist

quick verge
#

reading what

#

if you almost missed raid for READABLE anime

#

gonna have to end you

quick verge
#

Close call.

zinc vortex
#

chinese science fiction novel

#

so its anime

quick verge
#

nah

#

it's anime-

hybrid rapids
#

grats

#

a step forward

#

good number too

#

it isn't unless you cleared

wet stag
#

Tsun stop bullying me

hybrid rapids
wet stag
#

!whologs @wet stag

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Chaos**

Dark Knight: (315/4508) [5080 DPS] [93 Historical] [7:57]

**Midgardsormr**

Dark Knight: (226/2833) [4404 DPS] [92 Historical] [9:41]

**Omega**

Dark Knight: (500/1138) [4515 DPS] [56 Historical] [10:46]

**Omega-M and Omega-F**

Dark Knight: (144/805) [4685 DPS] [82 Historical] [7:34]

wet stag
#

11s is C U R S E D

hybrid rapids
#

i would sub for your group to play with Underage Girlfriend

#

but The Legend is under level

stable basin
#

oo

#

b>5k on chaos

wet stag
#

I'm screenshotting that and sending that to him btw

hybrid rapids
wet stag
#

U already have orange ablobangery

#

Tsun ur on mana yeah

#

Or was it gaia

#

I forget

#

@hybrid rapids

hybrid rapids
#

Gaia

#

big fans

wet stag
#

Kk

hoary geyser
#

Has Shinryu been nerfed?

daring berry
#

no

wet stag
#

No

daring berry
#

which shinryu

hoary geyser
#

I just did him again since the first week of SB and he's way easier. The add phase seemed to be missing the one wave that caused wipes back in the first week

#

Original Shinryu

daring berry
#

because item level

wet stag
#

Wow it's almost like gear has improved

#

And you deal more damage

#

Therefore it's easier to kill adds

daring berry
#

on some high DPS groups we actually skip phases now.

hoary geyser
#

No but like I remember there being an add phase where there were two giant dragon things

wet stag
#

Iirc only one hakinryuu spawned at a time

#

It's just that people couldn't kill the first one fast enough

daring berry
#

3 waves of adds.

hoary geyser
#

I remember we wiped to it all the time because there was always like 2 or 3 hakinryuus

daring berry
#

it's just 1

wet stag
#

Because

steady pebble
#

if your dps is bad, you'd have to deal with 2

torn kindle
#

People wiped a lot in the beginning because no one was overgeared

steady pebble
#

but considering we're basically at the end of the expac

#

dps should be enough you only have to worry about one at a time

torn kindle
#

now people have nearly +100 ilvl for shinryu normal

daring berry
#

Source: me to my annoyance when i get ShinryuNM from queue popping 7mins before reset.

hoary geyser
#

I swear four total spawned in the entire fight

daring berry
#

it's just 2

hoary geyser
#

Really?