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Keep it up
o9s basically has 2 different set of rotations, but it’s actually fixed mechanics
I think most PUG group wipe on crystal
crystal and EQ seem to be the hardest
thankfully our healers were both pretty good
i am
so mad
died on my 9s clear
wouldve been orange
mistimed my pot on 10s
wouldve been orange
9 ass
am i done with pagos quests after i get the cutscene from the griffin area? i haven't done it yet, but just wanted to know if there's anymore after that.
after 35 that's it for now
unless grinding ice and crystals is the true pagos end game
thanks!
it's week 7 now right
yes
i have 6 crystalloids 
after "progging" faust for 4 weeks and not seeing the LBs i'll take every crutch I can get
shield too hard
@lyric summit
That's immensely epic
i never realize how focused i am until cat walks up and grabs my leg
Cat cute?
at least things have calmed down enough that you're no longer dropping 15 percentile at the end of the day
Hey everyone, I'm looking to PUG o12s and was wondering if there's any thorough PUG strat guide that includes waymarks and thorough explanations of the mechanics I can apply to PUG groups?
NA or EU or JP?
-NA
NA should use Unreal for HW
As far as I know
I don't know about M/F
I think the strats are the same for all regions, but I only heard about the peculiarities of pugging Final Omega
With the shit EU strat
Anyhow this is Unreal
Ref: https://youtu.be/d9msqyVnTng You should do this for both HW1 and HW2, there just won't be any towers or rot the first time (It gives you good practice for the movement). A B C D 1 2 Arena
nice I do see that strat a lot in the PF
Johni you killed o12s?
are there pinned guides somewhere?
anyway, o12s first half is about dashing
NA/EU do prefers fixed as in MT group and OT group
9:3 or 6:9/3 depends on group
Yeah, I am back to being Midlander
i thought you were lizard or something
ty
@pure hawk i do text guide by kiri
https://thebalanceffxiv.com/guide/o12s_guide/
it's comfy
pinned is the timeline of fight
it would definitely help as well
basically you have to know dashing and tank LB3 / DPS LB3
tank LB3 if group DPS is good, so need no DPS LB3 to kill
is that the normals trat for pugs? 1 person infront first?
yes
correct
depends on your number
odd number go opposite
for example, 1 and 3 on opposite
1 stand in front
then after dash, 1 switch with 3
You can also spread the people around like MTQs does in her video
But I think her strat is inefficient
i think nobody does that anymore
thanks was looking for something like this to better understand it
all good im in no rush
Fennek's
Look at the healers
but doesn't looks hard
The healers are the worst offenders in this strat
healers is fine since it's within cast range
you definitely can heal
but i would like to know hello world 2
that's hello world 1
maybe the bad happens during 2
AST can star btw
to heal the stack
or just shield hard and HoT hard pre hello world
which we prefer for now
How much control does an hq chigusa ingot add to a craft?
shield and HoT hard is what we prefer now
yes, uptime is bad i do agree, but it isn't hard to execute
Healers had hard time healing Forsaken 1
This doesn't look easier than F1 at all
And F1 is zero movement

I thought it was the same for all the 4 stars that use it
is it?
And im guessing that value holds true for the other 35s then huh
let me check
Working on pentamelding and i wanna skip as many corners as i can lmao
should be 1912 ye
Kk
Means i need 1650 control then rather than 1740 if imma make the stuffs
Uh sure why not
Wtf
FF14 Crafting & Gathering Guide v4.4 Last Updated: Patch 4.4 LATEST 4.4 Progression Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/15FwMSCEhQg9042NqUtptJ8XW_iLHtU--lhld410tqrI/edit?usp=sharing The aim of this guide is to be clear and informative while providing a strong foundation...
it's both crafting and gathering
from very beginning to end game
Imma stick to the guide i have already
only macro
Yeah thats the one i stole off reddiy
But ive already theorycrafted my own bullshit from that lmao
Getting the 35ers hq is easy as a specialist so i can always just count them into the control pretty much
i do like to make my own rotation from simulator
because melding materia is an annoying step

Yep
like, minimum craftmanship required, control / CP
I fucked up and lost a ton of gil so im salty
Not gonna bother hitting the perfect hq goal
I have bad luck w/ 5s
Took me 40 tries on a 17%
the good ol' hasty touch day
rath's rotation

at least it's more control-able now
ye, you don't have to perfect meld control
just prepare 1 or 2 HQ materials should fix it
Already pentamelded 3 items before realizing this
Fml
Just gotta finish up the math now
good luck and have fun lol
or just follows the guide, but it required full meld
Or2
fucking finally
Will we be able to buy weaves with next 24 man raid or is it only accessories upgrade
at least not until probably 4.55
Sickkk
Shellacs as well
I'm still under the impression that Scaevan Ester is a refreshing blue flavored drink
blue gatorade
from nero's personal stash
the real reason nobody wanted Ryumyaku Polish was because it looked like ass
but everyone would chug the Ester and immediately regret it
Tide Pod Scaevan Ester challenge
It's technically a lubricant
Anyone else noticed that the clear rate for this tier's savage is rock bottom?
it's only week 7
and they did say that tiers are gonna be more and more difficult this expansion, unlike all over the place Alex difficulty
does o10s really
estelle cleared week 7 I use that as the indicator of casual statics doing content
Week 7 and we still working on cleaning up last bit after hot tail
Hello World 2 is perfect play or die >_>
There's like maybe 2 things in o12s that give vuln stacks for fucking up and everything else just kills you outright
there's room for some minor memes in HW2 but not much yeah haha
!whologs @blazing pelican
Scholar: (425/8518) [3487 DPS] [95 Historical] [7:37]
Scholar: (627/6967) [2920 DPS] [91 Historical] [9:00]
Scholar: (948/4516) [2796 DPS] [80 Historical] [9:55]
Scholar: (149/2997) [3384 DPS] [95 Historical] [7:02]
Scholar: (338/1355) [2827 DPS] [75 Historical] [10:37]
Scholar: (396/827) [1906 DPS] [52 Historical] [15:47]
wow I got taxed the fuck out for that M and F run
most groups bring a sch so I can make an estimate on how many groups have beaten the tier
that's uh, kinda low
more people beat godka by now
this tier is a tad more challenging for some groups
people getting yeeted on by lardbread and starbread
to be fair the naming of that shit is dumb
while jp literally has left/right in the name
we get outdated nautical terms

I'm pretty sure someone confirmed it's also star/larboard in jp too
iirc all languages use the nautical terms
in jp it's star and lar yeah
but the jp term for star and lar has the kanji for left and right in the name
so its not like they went out of their way to fuck over na
You could argue they still did by not using port
They just wanted to to have board in the name
and yet ppl would still complain
atleast with larboard i can remind myself larboard is left cos of the l
left is unsafe
larboard going right is safe xDD
in JP it is worse, Left -> Go right, Right -> Go left
very confusing them
the real cursed part about o11 is the ballistic impact
Just make the adjustment of ‘he’s facing me so I go the same direction’
people go full retard and stand on the hitbox
wow shit raid night
of omega
I'm a standard for bad now 
rip
is your monitor on
can't be that bad
joke's on you I'm on a phone
fwiw, my current group cleared it in two weeks?
and the only people with experience in the fight were me and the BRD
o10s is actually really hard tbh
you fall asleep for the first spin and you go monkaS
I hate the times where he goes untargetable
Also spicy tail end
When it's just pld taking all four
Needing reprisal and feint

rampart + sheltron + feint 1st
Sentinel + sheltron 2nd
HG 3rd
rampart + sheltron + feint 4th
if you have like 73k hp then you're fine
don't even need feint
but you'll need instant healing because ehehehe tb + instant auto
excogitation
the dumpster
rude
don't worry they'll have company
that's a bit harsh on summoner
with stoneskin
😔
/soothe
glamour
yeah, I really like that part of it, already need enough pages from 10s
though, same can be said for 9s pages, unfortunately
got two drops from there but they're both ones I wanna replace, and I need everything else as part of BiS I'm going for
oh fuck.
what is that ast doing
tfw you would make the dps check if the ast wasn't afk

probably doing your mom
it wasn't a dps check issue, but it's just retarded to pad your friend on a weekly kill (while also being party lead and allowing undergeared alts with bonus) anyways
oh you didn't mean that log i'm bad at reading
huh
huh
?
im lost
what
oh lmao i didn't even see that
lmao nice
like that's actually epic
ASTs have cleared o8s doing like 500dps
the bottom pit of healer parses can be quite scary
i feel bad for y'all cause HW was so much better smh
Very first high-end duty clear on spooky choochoo
My second clears on both were disasters lol
Second moonbitch ex had 17 deaths and second train was sub 4k
Oh and it had that BRD who stood in the OT spot for kiss when we moved on to 6s and bitched at me for passing it to him
what better for end game sch or ast
all jobs are good, play what you enjoy
right...but whats better
for what content
and what do you mean by better? more liked? easier? more fun? bigger dps? bigger healing? easier to find a static?
whats more meta or core in static groups
they have 2 healers, all combinations of whm ast and sch are equally as good
so.. play whatever you like
hey i just did hells kier extreme with 3 brds and 1 sam and after the 4 orb plase instead of enrage she went back to 8 orbs, but y is my question
Did everyone get 10 stacks during ddr
no it was just like the 2nd phase, she got over 20 on her gauge, she was near death and i didnt get a screen shot

I thought you only got that when everyone got 10 stacks
Guess I was wrong
Short answer is
We have no fucking clue
Most speculation I've seen is that it's based on your dps but that doesn't seem accurate
Also one guy I saw talking about the instance servers being so laggy they don't tell her to enrage on time which sounds like bs but ps3 limitations or something idk
mm could be that she skips to enrage at some %
I thiiiink I've seen non-enrage 8orbs after the 4orb sets once
I haven't seen extra geomancy since like first week but I also haven't hit regular enrage since then so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@wet stag its random
@hybrid rapids
she do another simon says if you didnt drop her below 20% after last colors
how do ranged bait pantokrator dos
I saved a clip of a PoV a ways back for my BRD for when we swap over to that. This has the BRD baiting on the same side as the party, for safety you can have them on the opposite side and not have to worry about any overlap https://clips.twitch.tv/HyperSquareVampireTwitchRPG
Klappa
powerful
beat qoya 
lol
KappapHD
powerful Faye

finna make pf a better place by making 1 less tank bait missiles during panto 2
eventually
I'm worst uwu smn on zodiark 
im top drk on tonberry that hasnt cleared 12s yet 
powerful 
the guy in 11th sucks at drk
me and my co-healer had combined #1 dps in the world on suzaku ex at one point
for like
5 days
😔
i mean yeah
that adds 80 points
i just need to clear to go up to 8th 
If you clear while being carried, do you really clear?
The ✅ is a lie.
depends on how do you define carry
like, contribute far below average as your own job
damage dealer with low 3k~4k DPS and getting kill
but still, a clear is a clear

you have book, weapon, mount, achievement
conclusion, clear > parse
frey when are you gonna pad my suzaku ex
look
kharlan lynare is the ultimate legend
and im not
bet
lf> ucob and uwu static
kharlan lynare is my sempai and i go >///< uwu when i see them in town
i can play
my nin isn't interested in ultimate
my nin is like level 37
but anyway we prob raid too late for you
what time
9:30-12:30 est
yikes
on weekdays
Why not?
nobody enjoys playing nin
Delete NIN
a class that perpetually clips
super fun btw
imagine clipping every 20 seconds
imagine learning that clipping is bad for every class in the game
then having 1 class where clipping is a "feature" for non JP players

meanwhile there's chad classes
have you ever played with a CHAD mch
Have you ever played with a mch
OOF
i can hear them breathing heavily every 120 seconds
also samurai gives slashing debuff
beta class LUL
insert arthars clip
SAM actually can replace NIN now
They boosted it too much lmao
Potency absurdly high per action
But I do like doing dungeon runs with good SAM, it ends very fast
i play tank so everyone is forced to love me
fm radio
fothermucker
Some group do prefer SAM over NIN
i prefer classes that boost my crit
my new static has mch
Tsun
there will always be a few who stick to a class
I got omega katana yesterday
but she's really good at it
even if everyone else hates it
For my alt that has level 0 samurai
mch is dick to play but it still has refresh
But Mug, DRG is still in demand
True
!lodestone Jenova Frappelgar Boffee
🅱offee
Mug on Middie, big fan
who is it
The second is my alt
Jenova
just look at my final omega clear
I'm no thot
yes
Oh, and you're with Trap
fkin lucky
Frey is it hard with blm?
no
Like, no extra raise
just don't die
JP don’t like blm generally on progression

maybe because they die too much
No bully
it goes both ways honestly
Double edge
even with smn healers will still rez most of the time
and if healers no mana it's prob a wipe
I didn’t raise unless smn dead
He usually saved swiftcast, I know it’s bad for dps
smn raising
But progress
I think that trap are cool lads, it's just that everyone knows about them
sounds like dps loss

Progressing don’t have to care for dps
I am in trap because I am big fan of Trafalgar Billy
and with my blm, 0% chance of hitting enrage
There’s no dps check, except all achieve and enrage
true
Back in Midas it was scary dps check
People had to save CDs for it
The struggle of not using CDs in opener
a8s
I think it’s the only fight people actually saved CDs to use later instead of burst it on opener
I like how 7k is green on mch
Oo
292
Ohh

That’s very little
Lul
yea, 1827 sch
MCH needs love
I hope they extend heat duration to extra 1 second at least
So I can do 6 GCD
It’s impossible for me now
1241 ast
same
MCH needs to be redone
I’m practicing mch now tho
Mch has very cool animation
I think one of the coolest
tsun mch main :woah:
do you have ucob weps for all classes?
I got aiming omega pants so I gotta play ranged now
o
We have like 15 class now
If including rumours 3 new class
That would be 18...
I’m on 7.....
And ucob weapon isn’t pretty for all...
But I do like SAM ucob sword
And I have 8 UwU totems left
There's someone on my server who got like 11? kills in 3 days
Killed it 19 times
But around half has no extra totem
Do you remember how to do ucob and uwu?
We have muscle memory
Need to wake it up
ucob took me around 3 months time in total
I was doing it PUG
pugs have cleared ultimate?
They do
And quite a numbers
Especially Mana DC
They have very strong PUG players
And prepared resources for PUG to follow certain strat
They had world top 5 and top 10 for ucob, uwu respectively too
PUG players...
I can't even get a farm party to kill Suzaku more than 4 times
15 kills
It’s unusual to stick with a party to kill 4 times tho
I should really try and grind o12s this weekend
We usually do 3
is it bought?
Wow really
The person never raid?
It looks like some person piloted him
Very mono performance
ya it looks like piloted
I guess that makes sense. With pug dps 3 kills is like 30 minutes. That can get repetitive.
15 Clears? Buying that much would be like $5000
👀
could be a package deal or something
preorder alphascape now
Anyone got that blob sweat emote
I said that because the group called as lalaland
And he’s a high lander Male
🤔
But just guessing
Might be friend help or he cleared himself
I have like 10 BlobSweats emotes
Since most people who actually bought the clear won’t upload or go anonymous
You can have them in single line, so won’t be so spammy

But ya I can't imagine buying content with real money

Imagine selling to 8 people simultaneously
When you have work, and have no time
That's some nice cash
Some people even hired player to play game for them lmao
300 bucks for 30 mins of work
Tsun, I am quite sure 99% of Ultimate sales are pilots
Heck it would probably cost extra to do a none piloted sale
You can't
That's exactly the problem
But there’re carry parties
To know some folks
They ask for gils
That do sales
Since extreme
They carry you, mount drop for you
But you have to pay in gils
It happens in large population server
But ultimate carry is sweat
Not really anymore
People do hire players who cleared ultimate
To help progress or sub their group
Paying them some gils
I guess most hiring now more on crafters / gatherers
Paying gils to ask new set equipment within 3 days week 1
The only way to sell Ultimate is RMT
sike not as thot as i thought
That would be the minimum price
Is the current tier difficult or more on player problem?
I think creator do harder than Midas tho
Erm
Alpha
Sry
Creator do harder than alpha tho imo
It’s comparable with SB savage definitely
The pugs disagree
o11s is easier than o7s
Blind prog was harder
Blind is definitely harder
(Excluding players data-mined and figured all enemy’s actions + 3rd party tool to record timeline
More complex
Rotations definitely simplified a lot now
Imo
The enrage in creator was a legit joke
Week 1 A12S kill had like
10 deaths
With hard raises
Creator also allowed phase skips. I don't think phase skipping has been possible all of Stormblood.
I meant HW rotation more complicated but more on dps job
Stormblood doesn't have skips because of the problem skips caused in hw
Healers and tanks always simple, but some healers had to keep up DoT which is annoying
i heard that cruise chaser could change week to week depending on your rdps
Skipping Lapis phase shaved off like a whole minute didn't it?
You can skip o11s panto 2 now tho
barely
It isn’t easy to skip lapis
When you say skip, do you mean he does a mechanic that would be done after panto 2?
You have to hold dps and burst at last moment
I mean compare the final fight of every tier
Or are you just killing him before panto 2
You cant skip second hello world
i saw a stream
You can't skip 2nd/3rd forsaken
Oh well ya that's impossible to avoid
Can't skip grand cross omega
But I'm talking about "skip Soar" type skipping.
I had a kill during panto 2
You also have alot more gear
o11s is hilariously easy if you kill it before panto2
I don’t think any is skip-able
considering thats pretty much the hardest mech
Blind progressing is always hard
the secrets of big fist will be revealed
inb4 next expansion boss HP stops at 1% until after mechanics finish
Since you have to make strat yourself
that'd be dumb
It would be. But it would also be funny
i think whats worse is
when guides come out
and they have really bad strats for mechs
That happened
like mrhappy tsukuyomi
And people still follow
or mtq panto 2
Oh god
Is popular among PUG
I wish they would make update videos
It’s their strat
At least they did blind progress and made their own strat
The game is dead if everyone waiting for guide only
Ya but the thing is guide makers have good players, so they can afford to have bad strats. Pugs not so much.
its' the same thing as regular virus
but rotated 90 degrees
it's fucking retarded

Eventually there will have PUG strat modified from theirs
Brainless and safety first
my favorite pug strat for o11s is bringing a brd/mch
So they are the pioneers
A lot PUG can do mechanic but can’t do dps
I still seeing 4.8k~5.5k dps
Like 4 of them...
In o11s usually
y i k e s
srs question, what makes line strat clownka bad
jp flamed
I got in late in the tier and only ever saw box
Seems like line would make it easier for dps to dodge puddles
I did line strat only
It’s bad for uptime
But you can modified it a bit
Like strat is common in JP PUG
reminder that low uptime strats are bad
Like 9/10 party do line
How much uptime do you lose
Most NA/EU players focus too much on their own performance
Cause he's gone when you're doing the running around
Rather than overall fight
Which ended up wiping to same mechanic again and again
PUG do prefer safe strat here
Because you can progress further and eventually see the whole fight
then adjust dps and rotation after
@normal sable nothing can be worse than Fennek's HW strat
Johni you never did hw yet 
I dunno, 1-3-4 is pretty interesting strat for HW
it's like, not awful, but man do you have to have the waymarks just right
pog checker
Yes, don’t have to as explicitly as o11s big fist mark
But if you have it wrong, then circle would hit others
yes
thank goodness pugs adjusted to that instead of the original strat
it's so much cozier
just go north/south depending on the tower positions and go cw
ofc
Level checker
cw = clockwise
ccw = counterclockwise
but yeah, it's cozy because first two towers are immediately safe to stand in
the best strats are the ones where i can save my remaining 3 brain cells for mashing dps buttons
Can you eat it? Or instant kill / confuse ?
I miss back in creator being a BLM main to figuring which aoes isn’t lethal
So can just manaward it etc
eating a reformat is only a dps gain if it dies in like 3 seconds iirc
I think it’s fine to eat it
As long as it’s a gain
Like, won’t give damage down etc
i eat lat/long if i don't feel like moving
Eat them both if you going to brew a coffee?
tank privilege
i can't wait for next week 😩
my dps is gonna be so fat with the i400 weapon
i want to find a m/f party
tbh
I want to clear O10S.
i think odds go opposite side or something
No info on 4.5 They only just announced 4.45 recently.
assuming they follow hw's timeline, 4.5 will likely be in jan
but we don't know for certain
you assign 2 groups of 4 to attack m/f
And 4.6 mayhap in March or April
Otherwise
4.6 is highly unlikely
once numbers appear the odd numbers go to the cardinal opposite of where m/f are
I haven't even done post SB story..i'll wait till 4.5 is out and then do Omega raid in 5.0
Sagittarius Arrow?
Optimized Sagittarius Arrow?
the amount of times i get to use tank lb3 this tier is
intoxicating
I like it tbh
4 entire times
My static unironically used tank lb1 for exaflare akh morn in our first 10s clear
Close call.
Tsun stop bullying me

!whologs @wet stag
Dark Knight: (315/4508) [5080 DPS] [93 Historical] [7:57]
Dark Knight: (226/2833) [4404 DPS] [92 Historical] [9:41]
Dark Knight: (500/1138) [4515 DPS] [56 Historical] [10:46]
Dark Knight: (144/805) [4685 DPS] [82 Historical] [7:34]
11s is C U R S E D
i would sub for your group to play with Underage Girlfriend
but The Legend is under level
I'm screenshotting that and sending that to him btw

U already have orange 
Tsun ur on mana yeah
Or was it gaia
I forget
@hybrid rapids
Kk
Has Shinryu been nerfed?
no
No
which shinryu
I just did him again since the first week of SB and he's way easier. The add phase seemed to be missing the one wave that caused wipes back in the first week
Original Shinryu
because item level
Wow it's almost like gear has improved
And you deal more damage
Therefore it's easier to kill adds
on some high DPS groups we actually skip phases now.
No but like I remember there being an add phase where there were two giant dragon things
Iirc only one hakinryuu spawned at a time
It's just that people couldn't kill the first one fast enough
3 waves of adds.
I remember we wiped to it all the time because there was always like 2 or 3 hakinryuus
it's just 1
Because
if your dps is bad, you'd have to deal with 2
People wiped a lot in the beginning because no one was overgeared
but considering we're basically at the end of the expac
dps should be enough you only have to worry about one at a time
now people have nearly +100 ilvl for shinryu normal
Source: me to my annoyance when i get ShinryuNM from queue popping 7mins before reset.
I swear four total spawned in the entire fight
it's just 2
Really?











