#endgame-lounge

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vital cypress
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the donuts are a pain

unreal flax
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The problem isn't that I'm getting hit by them. It's that I'm not getting hit by it when I need to even though I'm in the water on the screen.

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Standing at max melee north with the tank, tank gets blasted away and the water is all over the place and then I'm dead in 2-3s.

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Favorite.

dull radish
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I saw a picture the other day for cozy positioning for it and saved it

normal sable
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diagonals

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🔫

dull radish
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dps stand on the red marks, tank/healer where blue circles are, and then they go stand on the squares

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I mean

normal sable
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I know it's safer

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I know it's more reliable

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BUT REEEE

vital cypress
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I mean, you saw how well the cardinals worked

normal sable
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I'm on team cardinals

dull radish
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despite my suggestion we still did laziest version of not cleansing wind debuff this week

normal sable
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You can pry it away from my cold dead hands

vital cypress
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anyways I'm terrified of Midhogg Savage

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because I process those animation tells very slowly and you have like half a second to reposition or you explode

dull radish
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it gets easier the more you see of it

vital cypress
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like really slow

paper solstice
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how hard is suzaku extreme?

normal sable
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I'd say same tier as Tsukuyomi

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Pretty easy

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There are only like what 3 mechanics?

unreal flax
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Mechanically, Suzaku is really simple. The longer it goes, the more likely it is you'll fuck up, but overall it's not hard.

dull radish
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and mistakes are pretty recoverable, the dps check relatively lax

paper solstice
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i370 ok or do i need to be higher?

topaz wolf
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i had a run where the group died a total of 16 times, still made it past enrage

unreal flax
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Latency is honestly the biggest problem in that fight.

dull radish
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i370 is fine

vital cypress
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it's been extremely troublesome for me but I have some visual processing issues that make it overwhelming

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the mechanics are fairly simple though

vital cypress
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(for my grumbling about O10 it's just going to be a matter of dying until I can do mechanics reflexively)

steep iris
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tfw killtime in 9s so good i dont have to heal accretion in 2nd earthquake

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pogchamp

quick verge
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not skipping 2nd cyclone is instant wipe material

valid gate
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donuts are easy lol

stable basin
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is 09s much harder than 09? cus 09 too ezpz

valid gate
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like just stand behind the dps

stable basin
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and donuts are delicious

valid gate
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i dunno why people complain about problems in pf doing it and yet they won't just do it the easiest way

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uptime irrelevant to orb anyway

stable basin
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oooh whats the easiest way?

steep iris
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why do people use 0 in place of o

stable basin
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oh becauseim a noob

steep iris
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o9s not 09s 🤔

valid gate
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just stand behind your dps

stable basin
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just got into raiding sorry

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I tank lol

valid gate
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boom. done.

steep iris
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do uptime strat and stand in front of dps

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easy

stable basin
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is there a glossary of terms?

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uptime strat?

steep iris
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it's mainly for fflogs lol

cursive shoal
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that dont answer his question

valid gate
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i literally do not trust people in pf do to uptime consistently and wiping to orb is retarded

cursive shoal
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Actually no it probably does and im just retarded

valid gate
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biggest waste of time

stable basin
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wait you mean

steep iris
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i mean if they can't do it using uptime strat way they probably can't do it without uptime strat either lol

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it's the same thing really

stable basin
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just buff myself for attack as WAR?

cursive shoal
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So uptime means time spent hitting.

stable basin
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or any Tank

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oh@

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gotcha!

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so wreck boss and let everyone else survive the hit

steep iris
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you honestly don't need the extra 2 gcds on the orb as long as dps are doing things right

dull radish
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not quite

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yeahh

steep iris
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but people like big numbers

vital cypress
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a dead DPS is a much bigger uptime loss than your one or two GCDs

stable basin
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hmm i need bigger numbers I believe, do I heaven's eye materia my left side including tasset?

steep iris
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if you're a war

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DH is a big nono

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cause DH doesn't do anything for inner release

vital cypress
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especially since messing that strategy up is two dead DPS normally

cursive shoal
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So Crit?

steep iris
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yes

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crit>det

rustic lichen
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Crit > det > sks

steep iris
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for war

stable basin
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i thought heavens eye was crit

steep iris
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heavens' eye is dh, savage aim is crit, savage might is det

stable basin
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ohhh right

rustic lichen
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Tho sks is more for IR comfiness, you prolly won't need sks melds this tier

stable basin
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my mistake

cursive shoal
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frantic noob scribbling

rustic lichen
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cause everything frigging has it

sturdy sierra
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does anyone have a bis already for pld by any chance?

steep iris
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the way i remember it is savage aim=aim at weak spots=crit

stable basin
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so get scaeven tasset for the crit and not roll for the o9s tasset?

steep iris
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it depends on your bis, check the balance

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generally speaking though any ilvl increase is good most of the time

sturdy sierra
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i dont have that discord channel yet

rustic lichen
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@stable basin yes, tome belt is better off

dull radish
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I'd still pick up the savage one if it dropped and use it until you can upgrade the tome

rustic lichen
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However if it happens to drop before you get it, may as well nab it since any upgrade is a good one at this stage

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Yeah lol

stable basin
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ok I'm still a mix match of some omicron 380, scaeven and jewelry + mend augment on left side

unreal flax
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If the raid belt drops, get it. It's more main stat and vit until you can afford the real one

stable basin
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@rustic lichen Thanks man appreciate it

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lol ok so belt counts as left side? or not really?

sturdy sierra
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belt is left

stable basin
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and left side = crit

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and acc = ?

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for WAR

sturdy sierra
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is not considered an accessory

unreal flax
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It's on the left side, but it uses the same upgrade item as the right side stuff.

dull radish
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meld STR first slot into accessories on any tank

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always

sturdy sierra
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oh sorry yea it is

stable basin
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yeah but it needs different item to upgrade unless im wrong which i prolly am

unreal flax
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Nah, you're right.

sturdy sierra
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oh i was right?

stable basin
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yeah u cant upgrade it without using the jewelry ones augment thing

unreal flax
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Yeah.

stable basin
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so I shoudlnt get crit for it

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and get str for all jewelries?

sturdy sierra
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yea get the str one then

stable basin
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and meld as much str or weakest bis on right side?

rustic lichen
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All the crafted accessories can be Penta melded, but regardless of which you use, always meld str first. For Crafted accessories, meld det if you can't meld Crit, and meld Crit if you can.

dull radish
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always STR on accessories (earring, necklace, bracelet, rings) for first slot meld, if it's crafted you can't overmeld STR

stable basin
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ok so sega genesis jewelry and omicron 400 belt sounds good

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ahh i can get rakshaska stuff pretty easily but idk if its worth anymore with all my gear turning 380+ minus a few

rustic lichen
stable basin
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this is what i have equpped now, havent used sega gensis or gotten 09s drops yet

rustic lichen
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Otherwise if you got any other war questions, highly suggest goin to the balance discord as more folks can help ya

stable basin
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!equip Brynhildr Kuraku Kenshin

sturdy sierra
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got a balance invite by any chance?

storm frostBOT
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Equipment for Kuraku Kenshin of Brynhildr [item level 371]
Marauder's Arm

Empyrean War Axe

Head

Omicron Circlet of F
ending

Body

Dai-ryumyaku Jufuku
of Fending

Hands

Omicron Armguards of
Fending

Waist

Dai-ryumyaku Obi of
Fending

Legs

Dai-ryumyaku Jui of
Fending

Feet

Omicron Shoes of Fen
ding

Earrings

Ryumyaku Earring of
Fending

Necklace

Ryumyaku Necklace of
Fending

Bracelets

Scaevan Bracelet of
Fending

Ring

Ryumyaku Ring of Fen
ding

Ring

Omicron Ring of Fend
ing

Soul Crystal

Soul of the Warrior

dull radish
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there's a balance invite in the pins

sturdy sierra
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i see it ty

stable basin
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@sturdy sierra Yes shud i just ask/look there

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oh yeah forgot to upgrade axe to dai but its happening, idk if its worth

unreal flax
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+1 WD to help you get the SuzakuEx Axe, which is an additional +2WD over the i370 Axe.

rustic lichen
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At this rate I'd say get the 380 axe if you have a crafter friend, or get the Suzaku one if pf isn't stupid

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Also depending on how many genesis tomes you have, aim for the chest or pants first

stable basin
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yeah im at 525

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capped this week

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I think jewelry?

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how is rng on suzaku? unles its not drop

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i can get rakshaska axe cheaply with mendacity mats

dull radish
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You get a token per clear guaranteed, and you can trade in 10 tokens for any suzaku weapon of your choosing

stable basin
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oh sounds ezpz

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suzaku normal?

dull radish
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Or you can get lucky and get it earlier as a direct drop from the chest

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Ex

stable basin
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how is suzaku ex? rip?

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i like the axe

dull radish
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It's not bad

stable basin
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it shineh

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@dull radish @rustic lichen thanks guys gonna pass out after 3 days awake, Ill look up vid for suzaku ex

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crit on left side not including obi and right side is str materia? anyway to pin this message ofr myself for future refernece?

cursive shoal
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Anyone up ex a Suzaku learning party.

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Notepad boi.

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loljk

stable basin
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lol you're not wrong

dull radish
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Crit on belt too unless it's capped on crit already

stable basin
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ok someone suggested i genesis crit belt over omega 400 because it counts as jewelry even tho left side?

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@dull radish oh i just repeated what u said XD thanks again and night/morning

primal belfry
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is it always the case on new fights with what happening with Mid

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Where grey parse is 3.0k and orange parse is 4.0k

vital cypress
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well the high end is compressed

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since no one has a tome weapon and only 1/8 of the people with O12S clears have Omega weapons

fossil basalt
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maybe 2/8ths now

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crazy bastards

lyric summit
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logs and colours are always wobbly when it's new content and thousands of people are clearing for the first time and uploading

vital cypress
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I suppose the lower end would be as well since there aren't people with BiS gear to carry

lyric summit
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source: my 96 on chaos turned into a 91 after the end-of-day recalculating

vital cypress
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Also fewer big brain strats

boreal edge
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same

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my 92 chaos

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became 77

lyric summit
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goddamn americans clearing hours later giving us false hope

unreal flax
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I need to spend some time learning the Tornado Kick opener if it's really that much better. I'm still a 4.1 MNK lol.

dull radish
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double TK opener~ and gotta use it rotationally with burst, too~

unreal flax
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Man. All it took for MNK to change from the 2.x-3.x way of things is for me to drop it and play DRG for a tier.

vital cypress
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I gained a few ilvls and an MCH in my party and somehow lost like 800 DPS

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going from O8S to O9S

unreal flax
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What is the MCH replacing?

muted umbra
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Hey , I only do Pug and kinda ignored Suzaku last wekk to get O9 and start on O10. What should I expect difficulty wise for Suzaku in Pug ?

glossy musk
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From a PUG? Good luck.

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People are fucking awful and retarded at it

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It’s hard to move left and right

muted umbra
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more than O9S comparatively ?

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i'm scared now 😦

dull radish
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better than 9s

blissful solstice
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Which is harder 9s or suzaku ex

glossy musk
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It’s easier than 9s by a mile, not that 9s is hard

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But 9s other people can ruin for you

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Suzaku it’s your own fault

dull radish
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yeah that's pretty much it

lyric summit
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o9s also has way tighter dps check

dull radish
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suzaku, you can get a real bad group, but generally you'll still struggle through to enrage unless both healers are down

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"way tighter" is a bit of an awkward way to put it, since both dps checks are pretty lax, but yeah suzaku dps check is definitely lighter

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yeah I'm too lazy to extend the timer to keep it going through DDR haha

muted umbra
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29k is pretty lax

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my pug clear of this week was almost on enrage and iirc it was 35

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post orb

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so close enough :p

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anyway thanks for the input, gonna suffer through it and then go back to o10, really need that weapon

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nice

dull radish
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I just hope this isn't the sort of tier where I have to buy everything again, like it used to be before last tier

muted umbra
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I just consider ill have to buy everything

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cant get disapointed this way$

dull radish
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yeah I usually go with that assumption and just hoard pages for a while until I have enough to get everything I want

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unless I really need an upgrade sooner

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yeah I used to do that haha

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was such a meme in creator, there was no coffer so I eventually bought the weapon after 8 weeks only to have it drop like 4 times after, and then the caster chest on the 16th week, to have it keep dropping after as well

muted umbra
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Oh right', my autotarget shadowflare doesnt work on Suzaku P2, sigh

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oh thats smart for the tank one, thanks

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otherwise the fight seems fun, the coloured platform thingy doesnt seem that bad, but I can see pug hitting enrage a lot with accumulated fails

dull radish
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yeah haha, it's easy to struggle through to the end

muted umbra
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can't wait to clear it THEN do it 10 times

dull radish
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since it's very much personal responsibility, you making a mistake doesn't impact others really

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just get lucky with one good party and hope to get most if not all the clears you want, pretty much haha

muted umbra
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I dream of getting the book after the first clear

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always had to do the 10 clears ><

dull radish
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clear parties generally go pretty ok, farm parties are a bit of a mixed bag

copper portal
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I hope once 6.0 or 7.0 is released we have group of 4 whte mages taking down alphascape 1

dull radish
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same

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for the 10 clears thing

muted umbra
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Ya but RNGesus got your back on Omega it seems

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:p

dull radish
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the mount dropped once for me in my ten clears, and I rolled second highest with like a 35

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at some point this week I'll probably go ahead and clear/farm on my alt for the weapon too haha

muted umbra
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tbh I just wanna go on OS10 but my weapon is just too bad , dps is barely good enough

copper portal
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That would be fun

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Suzaku Suzaku Extreme

coarse radish
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Four lords ultimate

muted umbra
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just make a ddr minigame at gold saucer and gimme those MGP

copper portal
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I... that's actually a good idea for a GATE!

valid gate
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suzaku requires almost 0 coordination

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o9s requires matching and timing for multiple mechanics

stable basin
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9s pretty cozy if people just remember their letter

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At least the way my static does it, idk if pugs do galaxy brain nonsense

glossy musk
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Yeah

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It’s very little movement really

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And very few mechanics

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I feel like it would be very comfy for BLM

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Movement is spread enough that you can just aesthetically

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Aetherial

dull radish
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it's pretty cozy

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not a whole lot of movement that you have to do as a dps

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so I did some brief looking into that

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it's sort of a lot of damage

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I wouldn't really advise it

stable basin
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Middle for proximity like just chill mid when he jumps?

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Interesting

last galleon
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may be able to do it at higher ilvls but would not recommend currently

dull radish
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like you might live maybe, especially if you get other mitigation up. But it has a bit limited worth for now with current ilvl yeah

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you can move a bit further down and have it be safer but I dunno, it's not the biggest deal to move just a little further away

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if you want to meme you can eat the edict after with manaward and surecast

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that's much, much safer

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yeah I hate the timing for it haha

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always play it way too safe for it

eternal mirage
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Its actually comfy having a firestarter proc for that

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But rng D:

muted umbra
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alright I understand why pug suzaku is gonna be a pain

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people are bad at colours 😦

eternal mirage
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51k foul oof

stable basin
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FUCK THIS ALPHA WEEK

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o9n roll 30 31 29 on the week loots i would need

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next run 18 1 17

eternal mirage
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I know your feel

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3 runs in o10s all I need is lens

stable basin
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CAN I HAVE A FUCKING PEDAL

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OR BOLT

eternal mirage
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sub 50 rolls in all 3 runs

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2 of which dropped 2

stable basin
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lol

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wanna run alpha if you're on aether?

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oh wait

eternal mirage
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Chaos unfortuantely 😦

stable basin
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chaos:(

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scrub

eternal mirage
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blech

stable basin
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get off that dc cesspool

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by dc i means disconnect

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not data center

eternal mirage
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All muh irl frends on it 😦

stable basin
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tell them to move too

eternal mirage
stable basin
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SE get big money in return

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and I get you guys

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:^)

eternal mirage
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The worst part is, 20 minute queues

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So now I'm just looking for o9s weeklies in pf

paper solstice
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Fo byakko ex, should tank cast cd during state of shock or highest stake if doing no stacking?

quick verge
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stack cds near the end of state of shock

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you can't perform actions after he grabs you

eternal mirage
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I was 1 hit away from killing o12s dummy D:

stable basin
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TBN 1 second too short to work with Byakko throw

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feelsbad

paper solstice
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Theres always living dead

quick verge
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implying pugs know how to heal

paper solstice
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I gotta that cover, made a macro saying walking dead is active 😃

fossil basalt
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i shit you not i once saw a healer pitch a hissy fit because of a living dead macro

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they were insulted that the tank "didn't trust them"

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Pugs are a whole other kind of people

wet stag
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I mean

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If anything using living dead is the ultimate sign of trust LUL

normal mesa
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yeah

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hallowed less so but like

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LD....

stable basin
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I've seen a 15 line THIS IS NOT A DRILL LD macro

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That's a real trust issue there

wet stag
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Lmfao

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Yikes

stable basin
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Mine's just Living Dead <se.10>

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I did danger bongos at first but that's actually kinda hard to hear in combat

quick verge
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i refuse res if i die to ld

wet stag
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Hm

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I should put a <se.something>

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Mine's just been the auto translate living dead

bright plinth
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does anyone know what a levequest item stack for leveling craft 15-70 would cost about? is that still a thing people sell?

normal mesa
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i mean its usually a set of many different items

supple sail
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Ye they’re called levekits

normal mesa
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and ye levekits are still a thing

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varies based on job and server

bright plinth
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i can just shout around in limsa to ask for one? yeah i figured theyd be job tied

normal mesa
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ye or like

bright plinth
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how much does it usually average?

normal mesa
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see if your server has a crafter discord

bright plinth
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wow didnt know that was a thign lol how would i even find out

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i guess shout for that too

normal mesa
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i saw a 20-50 ltw levekit on mateus go for 750k recently

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and ye shout in limsa or rhalgrs

supple sail
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That’s cheap

normal mesa
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i will make the cul ones for friends for free

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"fuck i can't do namazu but i want the mount"

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here

wet stag
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Hahaha

normal mesa
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now you have a 61 crafter

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go nuts

wet stag
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Levekits on tonberry are like 400k

normal mesa
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ye

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it varies a LOT

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i have charged...like 500k for 15-60 cul

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but i was deemed like super-undercharging based on mat prices n shit

supple sail
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I’d expect a few million per class for 15-70

normal mesa
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ye

bright plinth
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how many people do you need to run a lvl 70 map? i ve never done this before and it says recommended 8 man party but some say you dont need as much

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i can barely get people in my fc to tag along ;_;

full wave
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4 should be enough

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Depends on your ilvls

bright plinth
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alright gotcha thx

stable basin
wet stag
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Check pins on the balance

bright plinth
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thats the 2.38 gcd build for war, im using the same blueprint

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its from the balance discord

tender sentinel
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I don’t understand how people don’t know the difference between larboard and starboard. It’s really not that hard.

bright plinth
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wait until they see magnets again

tender sentinel
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Ugh

bright plinth
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push or pull hmmmmmm GWqlabsThinkLol

stable basin
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how about the difference between labored and larboard

tender sentinel
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Whatever

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Do u know the difference?

stable basin
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Yeah, one is putting forth great effort and the other is an antiquated naval term for left when facing forward on a ship

coarse gate
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i think people need to get used to larboard and starboard first.

bright plinth
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best way to farm V battle materia?

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i got my VI's overmelds but now i need to stack on them V's

boreal edge
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@bright plinth eureka

bright plinth
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i opened 820 lockboxes today

boreal edge
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or levelling roulette as adventure on need

bright plinth
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i got 20 of the specific V's i needed

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i dont think its time efficient when sniping a specific materia lol

boreal edge
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@bright plinth 24 man roulette then

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as adventure on need

bright plinth
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alright cool thx

boreal edge
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it give you 2 Vs

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you choose

bright plinth
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oh it drops machi

boreal edge
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yes

eternal mirage
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For o10, does anyone know if the diameter of BLM ley lines is greater than the length between midgards spin spin and spin flip safe areas?

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I assume no but it would be handy if someone could confirm

wet stag
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If it is, it's barely wide enough

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Like

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Maybe a pixel on either side

eternal mirage
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Sad times

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So I have to rely on rng for ley line uptime Sadpepe

dull radish
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You only ever have to move out for a swifted spell, then AM right back

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Err

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BtL

eternal mirage
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Ah right

paper solstice
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looking to get into the anemos weapon just for the glamour, is eureka still populated or am i too late, also how long would the process take? Thanks.

lyric summit
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it's still pretty populated, do your challenge log and try to follow the fate train in the lower half of the map, after you're like 10+ then just follow it everywhere until you get enough crystals and are high enough level to get the weapon

cloud bluff
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I've noticed more people do it on the weekends since it's time consuming.

wet stag
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hm

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damn

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still havent cleared 10s

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but i think we can for sure on sat

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just gotta clean up exas

cloud bluff
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I want to get my Suzaku weapon before I start tackling savage. Haven't had any time though.

wet stag
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yeah it takes a surprising amount of time

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i cleared suzaku 3 times on thurs then 7 times on fri lol

dull radish
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Just have to look to get lucky with a good party, and get as many clears with them as you can haha

stable basin
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damn really want to finish my BRD relic bow but there not a lot of people in pagos lol

thorn bear
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I miss byakko ex already

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I cleared it with like the 2nd group I ever went in with in pugs

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now I just sneak into clear parties and hope it works out

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(it doesn't)

vital cypress
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I gave up because I'm usually the reason parties fell apart

cloud bluff
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:x

wet stag
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missing byakko ex

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lol

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i dont

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fuck that fight

vital cypress
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they keep ratcheting up the flashy visuals and it's starting to become crippling for me

thorn bear
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I just miss how idiot proof byakko ex was

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but then again

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there were lots of people who couldn't meet the dps check for byakko

wet stag
#

hi what the fuck

#

why is the 12s music so good

eternal mirage
#

My favourite music this tier is suzaku ex

#

Well suzaku

#

Love the bgm

thorn bear
#

no and go to lore spoilers

steep iris
#

🤔

#

there's no spoilers tho

thorn bear
#

he deleted his message

scenic patrol
#

Johnny boi, how far are you in this tier?

thorn bear
#

I'm getting an alt ready so I can pug the tier

#

but I've been to enrage on chaos

scenic patrol
#

So no clear yet

thorn bear
#

nah

#

it was our first night

#

in the raid

scenic patrol
#

I have only cleared O9S

#

And Suzaku once

#

With luck

thorn bear
#

I dunno waht will take longer

#

my first suzaku clear with pugs

#

or my first chaos clear with pugs

scenic patrol
#

Suzaku

#

Shit is harder

#

Chaos is very chill

#

Once you learn it it's pretty nice

thorn bear
#

I'm just joining suzaku ex clear parties and hoping they will actually get to that point

scenic patrol
#

Suzaku still feels like shit to me on phase 2

thorn bear
#

haven't been past the second simon says yet

fossil basalt
#

Suzaku's fight is more chaotic than Chaos'

dull radish
#

suzaku's so cozy when you learn the timing for moving in between adjacent explosions

scenic patrol
#

It's not cozy whatsoever as a tank

#

Her autos are mini fucking busters

thorn bear
#

I hate the 15s jump timing

scenic patrol
thorn bear
#

really enjoy doing storms eye into storms path

scenic patrol
#

You doing it on Warrior?

thorn bear
#

yes

#

lol

#

i've done it on other dps though

fossil basalt
#

during prog on suzaku i legit used tank stance

scenic patrol
#

Don't delay IR

fossil basalt
#

i hated myself so much

scenic patrol
#

Do IR>Eye> FC as usual

#

I'd rather be in tank stance when tanking Suzaku on phase two

#

Outside of IR

thorn bear
#

prog stance

#

tried to play dark knight but i don't have a million hours on the class so trying to learn chaos

#

while getting used to drk again

mellow shoal
#

hello ^^

dull radish
#

I've copy pasted my suzaku opener on BLM so many times, I really should just pin it in the balance at some point haha

#

actually currently have it on my clipboard, even

#

@mellow shoal heya

scenic patrol
thorn bear
#

the 5th gcd

scenic patrol
#

Just as downtime starts

#

A bit tight

#

Yeah

thorn bear
#

why not do 4th gcd?

scenic patrol
#

It's 3rd GCD IR

thorn bear
#

o wait

scenic patrol
#

Can't do later

thorn bear
#

i just looked at it

#

LOL

steep iris
#

chaos is fun

#

accretion tho

#

midgard is not fun

#

fuck akh morns

#

combine that with rng exaflares and you got people who don't know where to stack haha

scenic patrol
#

Better to Dcrit Eye then to miss a GCD in IR

#

Also Having Eye is also important

thorn bear
#

yeah ok I see it now

scenic patrol
#

The only other option is face pull

#

3rd GCD IR

#

But that's risky

#

And the boss can run amok

quick verge
#

suzaku openers xd

#

i just do normal pld opener

thorn bear
#

my favourite opener is getting people who pull 3 seconds early

#

so I fuck up my already fucked up opener

quick verge
#

if my gcd is <50% finished then i can get a fast blade and save riot blade for when she comes back down

#

scuffed openers

scenic patrol
#

Isn't Suzaku PLD opener pretty much shield lob into Req * 5 HS

quick verge
#

wow that sounds

#

i should try that when i go back to ddr ex

high ether
#

i didn't know the second boss of arboretum hard mode had a third pattern for that sideslip attack

#

it's an actually challenging pattern

#

with golems on both sides

lyric summit
#

it sometimes has golems on both sides for 2nd pattern too

#

ot at least like, 2 walls

scenic patrol
#

I fucking hate doing expert with low dps party

#

It feels so miserable

dull radish
#

It's why it's nice to go as dps, but then you get a tank that does smallest pulls possible

pure yoke
#

DRG is the worst job to do dungeons with a slow tank

#

constantly losing eye stacks

#

x.x

thorn bear
#

i would rather end my subscription that do any dungeons as melee at this point

dull radish
#

I just get extra Fouls haha

thorn bear
#

tanks healers or casters

lyric summit
#

or if you have good dps and big pulls, healer can't keep up soulsurrender

quick verge
#

or you get the legendary trio

dull radish
#

It's just like, I can nuke the full pack pretty much as quick as this small pack

#

I don't get that one too often, with healer not able to keep up

#

And when I do it's often with the tank still doing minimum pulls

stable basin
fossil basalt
#

tacitly admitting to using parsers

stable basin
#

healer healing a drk while his living dead buff isn't even swapped to walking dead

#

lel

#

aether

#

You can argue you're not parsing, just looking at other people's logs

#

it's even whm too

#

And they're not necessarily parsing, maybe someone else in their party did it

#

idk if that holds up against SE content respect police though

quick verge
#

are they bullying anyone with their parser

#

no?

#

se don't care

heavy mist
#

If u don't bulli u ain't a real parser

fringe granite
#

Bullying is toxic

#

And should be excised

scenic patrol
#

I don't have bully license until I clear the tier

#

😔

lyric summit
#

you can get like to the back edge, 5 degrees off his direct back

#

without pulling

quick verge
#

omega big stupid

scenic patrol
#

That's actually good to know

fossil basalt
#

nah he's just playing along

#

galaxy brain omega

lyric summit
#

he's just gonna horsekick you with his back leg without even engaging him

fossil basalt
#

knock you out 😄

unreal flax
#

Question: Can you fall off of O11S or O12S stage? Also, does O10S have a death wall or is it just a wall?

lyric summit
#

you can fall off, not a death wall

unreal flax
#

<3

quick verge
#

o10s would be monkaS if it was a death wall

#

special kind of fucked up

lyric summit
#

7th tile from the edge = pull

quick verge
#

oof

#

i really like that 39k crit

lyric summit
#

o10s with a death wall would be way better, it takes 50 years to wipe

#

they'd have to get rid of ice+earthshakers and it's doable

quick verge
#

what would they replace it with

lyric summit
#

another ice + cardinal/corner + thunder

quick verge
#

sounds lame

#

doesn't have enough instant wipe material

lyric summit
#

they could do akh morn + ice + in/out instead there you go

#

hire me square

#

stack middle, move to a corner

heavy mist
#

Akh morn plus gco plus 2nd forsaken

#

Hf

lyric summit
#

wouldn't hit the wall

unreal flax
#

My favorite wipes are the people who decide that it's a wipe, get marked with spread markers and still spread lol

quick verge
#

poggers

#

akh morn + ice + forsaken 2 + gco + every bahamut trio simultaneously

heavy mist
ornate blade
#

did u get a static for this tier brit

eternal mirage
#

Woo got o9s 2nd page

#

Lag killed me halfway through first phase so that was sad

#

I topped my clear DPS so happy enough

scenic patrol
#

Another tier where I need nothing from first fight

stable basin
#

not even accessory?

#

🤔

eternal mirage
#

The ring? 02Think

unreal flax
#

@ornate blade Yeah, I got a lil crew that I've filled in for in the past. Going into O9S for the first time with them tonight. What's up?

stable basin
#

Is raid earring not bis for war

#

🤔

wet stag
#

@scenic patrol why is warrior so easy lmfao

stable basin
#

because they have spammable mitigation

wet stag
#

I

stable basin
#

o wait

#

:p

scenic patrol
#

Wut?

wet stag
#

Went into a 9s aim to clear party

#

Still outdpsed the bard

stable basin
#

he played wrong

scenic patrol
#

!whologs @wet stag

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Chaos**

Dark Knight: (431/1704) [4485 DPS] [75 Historical] [9:11]

wet stag
#

Nah

#

We didn't clear

scenic patrol
wet stag
#

Wonder why

stable basin
#

hey johni

#

you on aether right?

scenic patrol
#

No

stable basin
#

wanna carry me 9s

wet stag
#

Lmao

stable basin
#

fck

scenic patrol
#

Well, technically correct

pure yoke
#

nice logs

scenic patrol
#

But no

#

!lodestone Jenova Joxepa Valtin

storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
#

My alt

stable basin
#

get off chaos you scrub

#

the lag must be real there

pure yoke
#

hey

#

I have a Jenova alt too

scenic patrol
#

Opposite

#

I have shit ping to NA

pure yoke
#

!lodestone Jenova Espresso Mug

wet stag
#

Drk ponder

stable basin
#

move away from EU fam

storm frostBOT
#

Miqo'te, Keeper of the Moon
Level 70 Dragoon [Item Level 380]
<Trap Squad> on Jenova

scenic patrol
#

I mained DRK until 4.2

stable basin
#

Faye 40 dps better drk than me feelsbad

scenic patrol
#

Isn't that, that content selling FC?

stable basin
#

i'm so close to 370 tanks

#

xD

scenic patrol
pure yoke
#

I don't recall them selling content

#

recently

scenic patrol
#

They were notorious when I played on Jenova

stable basin
#

tfw war was my highest ilv

scenic patrol
#

Not like I care

pure yoke
#

I made an alt for the fc because

stable basin
#

then i picked up pld and it became my highest ilv

pure yoke
#

some of my best friends are in it

#

so why not

stable basin
#

and now drk is my highest ilv

scenic patrol
#

I have been offered to sell content a couple of times

stable basin
#

why am i doing this to myself

scenic patrol
stable basin
#

you're not that good

pure yoke
#

so brazen

stable basin
#

you can't solo carry

scenic patrol
#

You can't carry your own weight

#

Though

stable basin
#

but i can

#

it's called

#

LEARNING BY DYING

scenic patrol
stable basin
#

i means

#

I'm not Lahabrea

#

but close enough

wet stag
#

Man

stable basin
#

Lahabrea did nothing wrong

wet stag
#

Make it sound better

#

Wisdom through death

stable basin
#

Wrong

#

Street Smarts through the Eyes of Ascians

#

wait that sounds ghetto as fuck

ornate blade
#

@unreal flax nah was just wondering if u were in the pf party or a static

#

gl with 9s

quick verge
#

i like how they ripped akh morn + exaflare out of shinryu ex

#

with icicles + tank akh morn

#

original content when

#

😔

stable basin
#

...

#

you wot

#

it's midgardsormr

#

the one doing the ripping off is obviously shinryu

quick verge
#

no

#

midgardsormr ripped off shinryu

#

nice try dragon shill

stable basin
#

lol

#

found this

paper solstice
#

Alexande burden of the fathe (A4) savage, do people still run this? how difficult is it unsynch?

stable basin
#

very difficult cuz mechanic OTKs

#

aka do mechanic or dies like a rodent

scenic patrol
#

I want to run it but with a static to get the mount

#

and possible glam

#

Alexander had some killer glam

paper solstice
#

even unsynch its hard?

fringe granite
#

Yeah if no one knows what they're doing

quick verge
#

gordias isn't very hard unsync

cloud bluff
#

There are mechanics you still have to be aware of but otherwise it's not hard.

dull radish
#

I can't imagine what would be left to really deal with for A4S unsynced

#

easily kill before pentacles

paper solstice
#

need that light and greatsword

quick verge
#

you can skip adds

scenic patrol
#

you still need a competent group of players to DPS hard

dull radish
#

well if you skip adds

#

then it should pretty much just be a burn at that point

stable basin
#

A4 is still brutal

#

i tired it with my fc

quick verge
#

not really

stable basin
#

the adds were basically wiping us

#

lol

quick verge
#

just get adds to 20%ish hp

stable basin
#

yeah the problem is

#

we hit too hard

#

xD

dull radish
#

just auto them

stable basin
#

auto them when they have debuff that insta kill you at 3 stacks GWcfcThonk

dull radish
#

you can feed them at higher HP

drifting beacon
#

so after vit meld and food, is there still some other way to raise my HP? 'w'

heavy mist
#

not the base hp

#

but there are skills that raise hp temporarily @drifting beacon

#

assuming u have the highest ilevel u can get for left side

drifting beacon
#

yep

heavy mist
#

then nothing else lol

torn kindle
#

Aren't there still vit potions or nah?

last galleon
#

Right side melds and food should really be enough hp

torn kindle
#

Regardless, there's never been a situation where people needed to use Vit potions to my knowledge

last galleon
#

Well they have very questionable value...

torn kindle
#

not even in ultimate

steady pebble
#

there's grade 3 vit pots

#

but im not really sure why you would waste money on those boxTHINKING

last galleon
#

I also don’t know why some people are making those

#

But they exist on the market board

drifting beacon
#

I take they they barely raise HP?

last galleon
#

It’s also like

#

30s

#

And I don’t know if it gives you the hp difference

#

Or just raises max

steady pebble
#

You're better off using your appropriate main stat pot

last galleon
#

Yeah

steady pebble
#

why are you trying to raise your vit anyway

normal sable
#

You should be fine with just gear and food tbh

#

378 is putting me at or above 50k w/ food

scenic patrol
#

Just pad your ilvl

#

Except accessories

#

As a none tank

quick verge
#

o10s is actually so hard

#

trying not to fall asleep to this shit

full wave
#

I wish they would've hyped up Middy's music for his fight

quick verge
#

music is w/e

#

but it's so quiet

full wave
#

The music is really boring and that puts me to sleep

quick verge
#

can we get some sounds that destroy your headphones

#

like forsaken's sfx

full wave
#

For what ken?

thorn bear
#

I'm real sad they just used promigenitor

#

and not at least a remix

#

like I understand they gave us 3 new original tracks for this last raid tier

#

but it seems real sad that middy gets blown up like this

quick verge
#

i mean he deserves it

#

with how fucked the sable prices + hot tail is

vital cypress
#

O9S is the highest I'm clearing this raid tier

#

unless I buy a 10 clear and skip to 11

#

every week

quick verge
#

spinny boi hell

drifting beacon
#

so on Suzaku normal, how do I tell which floor gonna explode?

quick verge
#

lardbread hell

#

look at where the phoenix is going

wet stag
drifting beacon
#

I thought it the bird but it seem only to be the case

#

first time

wet stag
#

The bird always goes clockwise

thorn bear
#

i don't think it does in normal

wet stag
#

The floor with the matching colour explodes when the bird flies through

thorn bear
#

it can go CCW or CW

wet stag
#

Oh

thorn bear
#

i swear i've seen it CCW

wet stag
#

Idk I've only done normal once ¯_(ツ)_/¯

drifting beacon
#

oh I see it now

#

the symbol outside

#

the boss room

#

how hard is suzaku ex? compare to lakshmi ex and susanno ex

#

joined just as 4.x out so those are the only 2 ex I played (took a break when the tiger ex out)

thorn bear
#

I've never done susano but I heard lakshmi was a literal joke

#

suzaku ex is probably the hardest(?) ex primal unless susano was fucked up

drifting beacon
#

😮

vital cypress
#

like i said, i'm not clearing suzaku ever

thorn bear
#

suzaku isn't hard

#

but

#

it's hard for the majority of players that are going to attempt it because the dudes

#

that never step into savage

#

are gonna go into suzaku ex

#

lol

drifting beacon
#

oh right, I cleared Shinryu EX too, how is Suzaku compare to that

vital cypress
#

i mean i cleared O8S, repeatedly

#

i'd say it's harder than that

thorn bear
#

then I think u will do just fine my friend

#

lmfao

#

no

vital cypress
#

BUT

thorn bear
#

I walked into a suzaku ex clear party and did just as well as everyone else

#

despite it being my like 5th pull ever

vital cypress
#

i have some very specific physiological issues that make it way harder

#

if you don't have a broken brain it's easier for sure

drifting beacon
#

hmm seem like something that is hard to pug then

thorn bear
#

suzaku ex will be hard to pug just by nature that alot of people going into learning right now are people

#

that probably havent' stepped into savage

#

and if they did

#

the most they've done is the first floor of a tier

drifting beacon
#

finding a PF that could clear Shinryu EX so I could get in duty completed PF was hard

#

by the time I cleared Shinryu EX with non-duty completed PF I could do it with my eyes closed

thorn bear
#

that's how to do it pug style

#

by the time I cleared o8s on pld I had a pretty good understanding of the fight

#

but damn did I ever do shit in weird ways

vital cypress
#

STUPID QUESTION I SHOULD KNOW

#

does Det affect healing received or healing outgoing

scenic patrol
#

Outgoing

#

Tenacity is the same

#

Only outgoing

drifting beacon
#

wow, watching a guide and the floor explosion + cresendo is sadistic

scenic patrol
#

Suzaku?

#

The real crime is the opener

drifting beacon
#

yeah

scenic patrol
#

Fucking 8 GCDs

#

Why couldn't it be 9?

heavy mist
#

cause designer is haha

past hamlet
#

YO! Need quick advice, 390 gear Caster gear Right Side: what is best materia to use?

rapid sapphire
#

which caster/job?

past hamlet
#

SMN

rapid sapphire
#

my 2 cents not couting inflation, vat, sales tax: crit > det > direct (theory: better to increase average attack than depend on driect procing)

past hamlet
#

Sadly Crit is out of the question caquse the 390 Caster Crit from Genesis is already capped

rapid sapphire
#

if doing savage prog, vit until get the hang of whatever are doing

past hamlet
#

So either Det or DH?

rapid sapphire
#

yeah (since spell speed amounts to milliseconds per global and ther's enough speed to go around this tier)

#

(assuming hit the tiers for speed)

past hamlet
#

Awesome, thank you very much!

rapid sapphire
#

det is more assured dps gain, direct more potential but it depends on rngesus/server ticks on the dots

south orbit
#

I see you @past hamlet

past hamlet
#

scenic patrol
#

DH

#

mostly

#

DH scales better than Det and it also has more frequent tiers

coarse gate
#

kobito the floor explosion + crescendo isnt sadistic when you realise that you always want to walk into color 1 or 2 (depending on what arrow you get. makes it quite easy

brave moat
#

So question what is best to meld for 390 paladin can't seem to get a straight answer anywhere

wet stag
#

Check over on the balance pld channels

brave moat
#

will do thanks!

regal halo
#

@past hamlet Crit > DH > Det. But if you're doing Savage progression, always VIT until you're done with the tier.

past hamlet
#

Noted! Thank you very much!

regal halo
#

Welcomed

mild hollow
#

Im not sure if I'm writing in the right chanel but Looking for any Caster (PRIMAL server) for o9s weekly clear tomorrow (our caster gone out partying tomorrow) so static is short of one. We starting at 4pm EST. And then o10s practice if you are up for it. Message me if you free o7

coarse gate
mild hollow
#

I'll try in recruitment place too. @coarse gate thanks a lot o7

coarse gate
#

np. and i would help buuuuuut im on wrong dc... and havent cleard o0 yet cause pf groups sucked too much at times

mild hollow
#

Hehe no worries!

coarse gate
#

o9 i mean lol

#

well the 2nd group sucked. the first got to enrage. then ppl had to leave

vital cypress
#

while you were partying I studied the CHAOS

coarse gate
#

basicallyl. i studied 2 dances since last week so elegant that only the people with the finest of taste will understand them

untold furnace
#

how can you see your "color" on a boss on fflogs ?

lyric summit
#

go into damage done in a clear log

quick verge
#

pro ninja

untold furnace
#

okay thanks, and what exactly is this "parse%" ?

pine beacon
#

It's your percentile grade when stacked up against all other clears on that job

lyric summit
#

it's "this % of people did less dps than you"

untold furnace
#

okay thanks

#

I thought I was doing pretty good turns out I'm just average with 40% rip

zinc vortex
#

that's one way to look at it

#

or you can say you're better than 39% of people that cleared the fight

#

that's not an insignificant amount

untold furnace
#

yeah you're right :)

fossil basalt
#

and of course, keep in mind that most people never clear savage at all

untold furnace
#

yeah it's just that I don't see much room for improvment

lyric summit
untold furnace
#

nope I didn't know about that, I'll go see thanks !

wet stag
#

@untold furnace drk?

untold furnace
#

yeah

wet stag
#

if you link your log i can take a look

#

later on tho slightly busy rn

untold furnace
#

thank you, 5min I'll geave you that

#

okay np :)

wet stag
#

@untold furnace just tag me later

untold furnace
#

alright will do

waxen wagon
#

during A9S, after the cyclone during enrage, do you stay stacked for earthquake?

untold furnace
#

doesn't matter at this point

#

you have no way to remove cyclone and earthquake debuffs

wet stag
#

nah you can remove earthquake

untold furnace
#

but you can stay packed to facilitate healing yeah

wet stag
#

everyione needs to be full healed

untold furnace
#

yeah right sorry

waxen wagon
#

i was the only one that died after earthquake was casted, so i was wondering if i did anything wrong.

#

i see.

#

thanks!

wet stag
#

@untold furnace kk im g

untold furnace
#

alright 2min I'm in the middle of a fight but we'll wipe soon lol

wet stag
#

kk

last galleon
#

You can’t remove earth for dps during pre enrage phase

#

Just accept death paissaowo

wet stag
#

um

#

yes you can

#

everyone gets the full health debuff

#

including dps

normal sable
#

🤔

fossil basalt
#

when you say pre-enrage

#

do you mean the very last bit?

wet stag
#

yeah the soft enrage

#

accretion is the debuff that needs to be cleansed by full healing

last galleon
#

wow okay, chaos is nicer than i thought

wet stag
#

fuckin right

#

chaos is ezpz

#

but it's still a super fun fight imo

last galleon
#

it's just since wind debuff isn't resolvable i thought earth would be like a mini uwu enrage where it just outright takes out most of your dps power

#

and then actual enrage to rub it in

wet stag
#

yeah

#

with everyone got primordial crust instead for the enrage

stable basin
#

i should

#

go design an omega ultimate now

#

not like they'll release it for a long time anyway

ornate blade
#

i thought

#

it does kill all the dps

#

every time i did it, all the dps get beyond death, and the tanks/heals get white hole

#

when he casts enrage phase earthquake

wet stag
#

Another pull I did

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ornate blade
#

i dont even have 9s logs uploaded so i cant even check feelsbad

#

sec

#

huh its the same in my logs

#

everyone get s acretion

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but im like 100% sure the dps die there

dull radish
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probably not being properly topped off to cleanse it, then

ornate blade
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dang

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my whole lifes been changed

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i also see that my healers have been backstabbing me this whole time 😡

last galleon
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Or just

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Clear before earthquake

ornate blade
quick verge
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skip cyclone

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you only need like 38k to skip enrage cyclone

high ether
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"Clear For One" there are only two people in the party

cloud bluff
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50/50 chance of guessing. 😄

severe notch
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What's a good % to be at in 11s going into add

lyric summit
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i think we're getting it to 80%

severe notch
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Ok so same as us

lyric summit
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but we haven't killed so can't comment on how good that is compared to enrage

unreal flax
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And then you find out that the boss should be at 25% before adds.

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(don't listen to me)

lyric summit
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i mean, there's not much room to push dps, i have to rush 1st bahamut to get both akh morns off before it's level checker time

severe notch
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Yea was just curious

heavy mist
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just check some super late kills

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when does the add happen

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🤔

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Slowest FFLOG group had omega at 81% before add

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yeh 81%

paper solstice
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How does the "bolt" work in alphascape, do you get to automatically get 1 per week or do you have to roll for it?

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for accessories

barren grove
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you roll for it

scenic patrol
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roll for it

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re do the instance until you get it

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don't roll on things you don't want

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because you are limited to 1 a month

paper solstice
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1 a month or week?

barren grove
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week

paper solstice
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my heart skip a beat at 1 per month

scenic patrol
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my bad

quick verge
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1 per decade

scenic patrol
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I am chatting in 2 discords

quick verge
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don't erp and chat friends 😔

vital cypress
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81% and they cleared?

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huh

lyric summit
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shouldn't be too hard to catch up, especially since the game counts 80.1% as 81%

unreal flax
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I really like Jahaudant's TK opener. Now, it's time to learn the Double TK opener. It'll be exciting to see if I can actually execute it.

quick verge
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80.x% is fine before add phase ye

pseudo valley
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how bad is o10s enrage vs o9s? still struggling with getting past o9s enrage

normal sable
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o10s is easier for ranged

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way harder for melee

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dps wise

quick verge
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you can stay on midgardsormr when he starts spinning fast, but not too fast

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but if you're having trouble with o9s enrage

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then o10 won't be fun

paper solstice
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do you get a higher roll if you pass on stuff?

wheat garnet
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If only

fringe granite
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You get a roll of 0

pure yoke
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rolls are rng everytime

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independent of previous rolls

paper solstice
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do you have to stay in instant to get item or you can leave and the game will still calculate your roll?

thorn bear
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you need to stay

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don't leave until the item you want has been given to whoever rolled highest

steady pebble
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leaving is basically the same as passing on the item

paper solstice
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........ been farming for 2 hrs leaving

torn kindle
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The best odds of getting a good roll is being the first one to roll on the item because people can't have the same number.

vocal drum
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Being last to roll would give you better odds of getting a good number if that was the case, because you'd have higher odds from a less amount of choices.

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You just risk losing highest number.

drifting beacon
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hi

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is there no more trial with accessory like lakshmi anymore?

torn kindle
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in terms of stormblood extremes, yes.

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They only gave Lakshmi accessories since it came out with Susano at the same time

thorn bear
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pretty sure it was only done because they released two primals at once

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yeah