#endgame-lounge
frosty stag
boreal edge
most ppl use that 5 macros length strat
frosty stag
Most likely wipe before virus
frosty stag
Iβve never seen anyone use macro strat in pug prog
opal hollow
r u fkn kidding me
that's gonna be annoying to learn
do you do chakra for kefaust as well?
barren grove
Haven't pugged O7S, so every melee job just intercardinals around the guardian then?
opal hollow
is ink larger than kefaust's fire aoe things
i feel liek it is but i can't really tell
barren grove
Slightly yes, Guardian being a bigger target as well
opal hollow
damn that's lame
we used to do triple melee for kefaust
had the third melee dead center of boss
hmmm actually might still work for guardian since it's bigger
barren grove
I usually take a few steps back, think you get 2 inks if it's minrange 90 degrees apart
think
pure yoke
both tanks and melees can be at melee range
for ink
and not clip eachother
just do chakra spots
still inlet
Hello folks, just checked in with moderation if it was ok to make a post about it, wanted to announce that a project Ackwell and I have been working on for the past 4 months is now live:
It's a web tool where you can post your logs and it will analyse what was done well, what could be done better - providing breakdowns with suggestions as well as other pertinent data and information. Right now only SMN is mostly supported, however in time the end goal is for all FF jobs to be supported. I know I'm excited for where it's heading.
Here's the reddit post Ackwell made: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/90vy6n/xivanalysis_is_now_officially_live/
steep iris
big fan
opal hollow
i don't like your warrior one D:<
i didn'tr even realise iovercapped
LMAO
feelsbadman
still inlet
steep iris
it showed me how bad I was with shadowflare
opal hollow
LOL
still inlet
WAR has partial support, RDM's likely going to be next
steep iris
and multiple other stuff
scenic patrol
it's still work in progress on the WAR one
paper torrent
why is double weaving a sin
still inlet
Keep examples like that handy
Johni
Then we can try and see where the logic is failing
scenic patrol
want a link?
still inlet
Sure DM me one I'll drop it in the tank dev chan
steep iris
yea
steep iris
my war friend said there was no way he overcapped 200 gauge in his 99 run
scenic patrol
it is
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it figured ouut that i have a 2.37 gcd
still inlet
It either works fantastically or fails terribly
paper torrent
like damn
still inlet
it will fail if people are bad with weaving
paper torrent
still inlet
or forget to cast/hit actions
still inlet
war tracking won't be 100% atm
still inlet
yeah, the core parser is robust
scenic patrol
generally clipping on the 2.37 GCD is not as much as an issue as the 2.38
since we get "time" to correct the clip
paper torrent
also I wonder if i'm gcd delaying for some of the other weaving issues
'cause i have this
like that bottom one makes sense
still inlet
I wonder if it's counting autos
paper torrent
but i'ma go check the logs for the top stuff
i'm also really sad that this is my PB parse
and it has 88% SE uptime
in fucking o6s
still inlet
a lot of my pbs have tons of mistakes π π π
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scenic patrol
also Nemekh pls add some role actions to this
still inlet
but yes summoner players do use it and give feedback. I've worked hard with Ackwell so that it's mostly useable
paper torrent
Role actions aren't coming up either
scenic patrol
it's freaking weird not seeing the Awareness used
still inlet
that'll be due to sky needing to define cross role actions
paper torrent
it's so nice and clean
still inlet
for now it should just be war specific
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still inlet
I'll add it to general
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I defintely clipped gcd there
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I think it is working but it's just not saying that I delayed my GCD for some weird reason
scenic patrol
good
paper torrent
oh yeah that makes sense
'cause conva was there
it does seem to be registering the three weaves, but just not showing up as icon
just says i've been using RI+HG
paper torrent
yeah the same for the equilibrium one as well, i triple weaved rampart
iirc the only smn main i know in here would be Iluna
there's defintely more but that's the only one that comes to mind rn
still inlet
Iluna was one of our early beta testers, I told him lots along the way before then and he kept wanting to use it haha
He's well aware and excited for it π
paper torrent
oh okay that makes sense
still inlet
We also want to make it multilingual as well down the line
paper torrent
AFAIK the only person I know is Alex who speaks fluent french to my knowledge
bud#1160 is the tag but he hates it when i tag him
still inlet
will keep in mind, I know I can cover French np and to a degree jp, though will probably rope iluna in to help if he wants
DE there's some people I have in mind that have helped in the past
Tank role actions are fixed, shouldn't be too long until that fix is deployed
steep iris
i can't even english
paper torrent
@primal oak is also part of translation team and is super nice
paper torrent
oh yes
it's showing up now
wiat a minute
did i have anticipation
in... o6s?
am I really that pants on head
scenic patrol
you might wanna fix the icon for Reprisal
This way of pulling Kefka mid for Forsaken is so comfy
paper torrent
Yeah
my conva one seems to be right
checking the others now
that's the 6:11 one
says my reprisal was an anti as well
Provoke one is correct tho
seems to be just reprisal from what i can see on my logs
still inlet
yeah it was just an incorrect icon ID
fix soonβ’
refresh, if it says 00afa0a in the header it's the latest update
still inlet
sometimes takes a bit
paper torrent
lemme clear out my cac he
that usually helps i think
yep that did it
fixed
π
exotic lark
I see that image then I think about doing that as a DRK with blood weapon up for even less time on the gcd
Add an arrow buff in there cuz idk that's what the ast went with
boreal edge
i was like stop giving me fkn arrows
exotic lark
I love arrow
boreal edge
it ruin my rot
paper torrent
Press that Samurai button
exotic lark
I'm the kind of ast that gives 150% potency arrows in dungeons
paper torrent
DEJA VU
exotic lark
I feed mnks and drgs and blm them
paper torrent
Give it to your PLD
boreal edge
even brd hate it
exotic lark
Err, mnk and drk
pure yoke
I'll take that arrow
steep iris
i want to give it to drg but my drg says he doesn't want it
exotic lark
Not drg
pure yoke
I am like the only dragoon that doesn't mind arrow
it's free dps if you know how to adjust
for most jobs
steep iris
soviet hammer likes arrow
exotic lark
BLM love arrow
steep iris
one of the top drg in primal
exotic lark
That's what happens to drk
exotic lark
Arrow in blood weapon is a fun time
boreal edge
at least even on brd
it only ruin doubleweaving at best
under AP
but mch
i overheat in 55 secs wtf
pure yoke
MCH is like one of the sole exceptions for arrows
exotic lark
How does arrow with a stacked mnk work though
boreal edge
pure yoke
every other job stands to benefit from Arrow
exotic lark
That has to be a like 1.4s gcd
boreal edge
so arrow wont make a difference
exotic lark
Or less
pure yoke
Tiff double weaves outside of RoF
boreal edge
tho a mnk under RoF will kiss u if u give him arrow
i dont live under SE servers
i barely doubleweave at 2.4s
let alone 2.15
exotic lark
So from what I take from this is, if I want to be the best Ast I can be
Give mch arrow
boreal edge
so u want to be reported
exotic lark
Lul
exotic lark
I probably get reported everytime I heal anyways
Last time I let someone die I swift cast esuna
boreal edge
π
paper torrent
X3 report
exotic lark
To be fair I swapped esuna and ascend's positions and habit made me do it
I still did it 3 times
still inlet
Arrow 
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Probably
steady pebble
eh
still inlet
it makes it awkward, there's also one side effect that needs more research
arrow on smn = arrow on bahamut which might be impacting his wyrmwave recast making the buffer window shorter
getting concrete proof on that has been difficult
outside of bahamut is more preferable to me, for sure
exotic lark
The actual galaxy brain is arrow on yourself
steep iris
π
gotta go fast
but I can't put arrow on myself
cause that makes me run out of mp faster
feelsbadman
exotic lark
Light speed + 150% arrow go fast
Yeah I've done it a few times
And killed all my mana
But I also swift cast esuna on a dead guy
So I'm not a great healer
worthy vigil
So Iβm missing 2 duties for the mentor roulette. No idea what they are though. Any ideas?
steady pebble
what do you have
lyric summit
I'm missing two of three hildibrand trials, you got those?
patent mist
anybody want or need to do castrum fluminus?
worthy vigil
Which ones are the hildabrand trials? Those are probably the ones
supple sail
Battle on the Big Bridge, Dragon's Neck, Battle in the Big Keep
worthy vigil
I completed everything in SB except for Shinryu EX. So it would have to be the Hildabrand Trials then
Thanks
still inlet
@steep iris enough sps you can get 7 r3/r4 dwts naturally 
though hastes make it easier for sure. Enough sps and haste buffs will make 8+ possible, we don't have the sps proc buff anymore so 9 is likely the end ceiling if considering that
steep iris
sometimes I can do that
but most of the time my ping says nope
and I miss my deathflare Q_Q
and 8 π
still inlet
back in hw era smn, final creator level gear
if the stars aligned and you had max sps build with sps food, enhanced arrow, fey wind and the sps proc buff all at the same time for dwt
you could do a 9 r3 dwt
I only ever did it once when entertaining memes
8 hard 1 swift deathflare
it was so fun, but then you realised how bad max sps was as a build 
when I tried to fish for it to happen I did the summon trick so my pet had crit stats, I gear swapped, never used spur, never used a pot to force a pet stat update so garuda had the highest chance to proc the sps buff every action
solar bane
does anyone else not think Omega is a stupid storyline/character in this game :/
still inlet
story hasnt ended yet π
solar bane
I mean its premise
steady pebble
plenty of people have bitched about it
solar bane
Like, Omega is just this godlike deity being thats so powerful it overpowers Midgardragonman who's like Hydalaens child or something
steady pebble
to that midgardsormr part, and why are you talking about the story in endgame anyway
solar bane
Because omega is end game?
solar bane
aah, I just thought that because it's end game people probably already knew this anyway π
boreal edge
80% of ppl here skip cutscenes
so even so
its better to post that where ppl actually pay attention to lore
and get answer fast
arctic field
H-huh?
scenic patrol
glossy musk
Yeah fuck the story
vital cypress
this analyzer thing is pretty cool 
stable basin
this game has a story?
lyric summit
it'll be Powerful Tool when it supports jobs other than smn
still inlet
It doesn't have suggestions beyond core checks and the rage one, but over time expect more π
rdm has some very basic stuff going on, the dualcast check is a bit outta whack though
otherwise smn is the most complete. I really want to see where it's at a few months from now
then comes the new expansion and it undoes everything yet again 
at least we'll be ready with something, next time
dull radish
mmhmm <3
snow girder
I just cleared o6s for the first time. Any tips for o7s with pugs? I hear it's miserable.
lyric summit
what role are you
snow girder
I either rdm or heal. My clears have happened to be on rdm
lyric summit
get a macro and call dibs on the best positions by saying you're R1/2 or H1/2 in the last line of the macro π
vital cypress
yes
thorn bear
Those ink positions
Wtf
That is too galaxy brain
Would rather just use chakra pos
glossy musk
Ink is just chakra yeah wtf
And Atomic doesnβt need positions
Itβs small as hell
Just stand somewhere not literally in melee
stable basin
But when it comes back before chakra it matters
glossy musk
Not even, just donβt stand on top of a chakra. Stand like 5 feet off
Drop it, walk over
If you do screw up placement wait for the pulse and then walk into the chakra, wait for chakra, walk out
They pulse at different times
snow girder
Anyone have a good guide for o7s?
stable basin
You can watch MTQ/Mrhappy to see how to handle all the programs but I think they do virus differently and pretty sure at least one of them also does Biblio differently
stable basin
Actually I'm not totally sure they do Daddy the same as pug strat π€
Do they have the marked people run west because that's the pug strat
And for Bookman tanks+melee dps to go the north circle and run to the west one while healers+ranged go to the south circle and run to the east one
lyric summit
i've seen like 99% of pugs start at north and south but then it's like 50/50 whether the posted macro or something says to go east or west
lyric summit
murika π€·
golden zenith
so i want to improve my dps, and i was wondering for how long do you guys parse vs a dummy to measure your own dps?
because during my opener my dps is pretty decent, but it falls off after all my skills are on cooldown
lyric summit
SSS should tell if you're doing enough, but most fights last like 7-10 minutes, with mechanics obviously
so probably something around that
what job are you?
golden zenith
DRG
lyric summit
that's pretty simple then innit, do your opener properly so your ogcds are alligned, jumps, dives and gierskoguls, use life surge for full thrust and b4b for chaos thrust
stable basin
bring along a chocobo companion,put it on healer stance only then do rotations for the whole 'instance'
use dragonsight on chocobo to get better understanding of your rdps
golden zenith
say my skills didnt line up exactly as i planned, is it more important to land my third nastrond and clip my gcd, or to ignore it ?
lyric summit
should probably ask the balance honestly
lyric summit
mug π€
but like
he's on balance too
with a lot more dragoons
so what's the difference
stable basin
i trust mug more than i trust balance drgs
lyric summit
he is a balance drg 
stable basin
lyric summit
stable basin
π€’
golden zenith
is my weapon gimping me too much here?
stable basin
yes
lyric summit
is that i290
stable basin
everything on that xcept for ryumyaku are gimping you
golden zenith
yea
lyric summit
weapon is the most important to your dps
stable basin
do hoh for new weapon
lyric summit
weapon damage to be more exact
golden zenith
but that takes so long 
stable basin
farm highest dungeon for new gears till ilv unlocks next dungeon
lyric summit
even a i340 for just creation would be way way better
lyric summit
four o4normals
stable basin
yeah... good luck dfing that
lyric summit
uncapped so just queue for it
lyric summit
it's in the roulette it shouldn't take that long
elder lark
my O4N queues are usually like 6 minutes since the roulette began
lyric summit
so what it's still an upgrade from a i290 weapon..?
elder lark
and that's DPS
stable basin
i'll take your word for it.
elder lark
I got 330 weapons for like 9 jobs Β―_(γ)_/Β―
lyric summit
and then just run a rabanastre to upgrade it
stable basin
that's asking them to suffer hashbrown
lyric summit
that's asking them to do content to get better gear what are you on about
stable basin
HoH weapon is great to go for because you don't need good gear for it and you'll keep it until you clear O7/O8S
lyric summit
should they just sit there with their i290
and not sit in queues for a raid
so tragic
elder lark
I do agree with that
when I was farming my 9 freaking creation tome weapons HoH wasn't a thing yet lol
golden zenith
how long did you guys take to get your HoH gear?
stable basin
i didn't bother
elder lark
I got 3 weapons in the first week but I wanted to die
stable basin
Leveling one class 61-70 got me a weapon plus 99/99 aetherpool
elder lark
so it depends on your patience and bullshit tolerance
stable basin
^
lyric summit
dumping >200 silver chests into a meh weapon isn't really worth it
stable basin
meh
golden zenith
what class would be most suitable for speedrunning HoH with a bunch of randoms?
elder lark
I do HoH as RDM
lyric summit
upgraded tomestone is i370
stable basin
Yeah he should just clear O7S with his i290 weapon first
That's the easy way to do things
elder lark
Mendacity weapons are nice but the crystalloid is still weekly capped
lyric summit
they'll put upgrades up for coin exchange in like 2 weeks
golden zenith
clearing the dummy is the absolute bare minimum requirement for doing a raid right
stable basin
yes
golden zenith
because im only clearing these dummies with like 10 seconds left
im guessing thats really bad :v
golden zenith
is it easier to have a better uptime in a real fight using a ranged/caster class?
lyric summit
yeah definitely
golden zenith
so im guessing "meta" comps try to minimize the amount of melee classes or something?
lyric summit
no, melees bring most utility
steady pebble
uh no, meta comps are all about synergy
lyric summit
it's easier to keep uptime as ranged, but it's still possible to keep like 99% uptime as a melee
you just have to be more aware of like the other melee if there's f.e. fires on both of you or something
golden zenith
as a melee class, if the boss jumped away from you and you're in the middle of a combo,
do you use your ranged skill and break the combo, or walk to the boss while losing some GCD uptime?
lyric summit
if you mean like a jump across the room jump, then you should be prepared for it happening and you can usually get to it in less than a gcd if you know what's happening when
maybe use a gapcloser if it doesn't break your combos (i don't actually know if any do), but ranged skills of melee classes shouldn't really be used ever
(like knife throw or piercing talon, not like gierskogul/fuma cause those are good)
golden zenith
so i can safely remove piercing talon from my hotbar?
stable basin
yes
lyric summit
i'd say yeah but i'm no drg main
stable basin
O7S pf taking forever to fill last slot which leader insists on having brd/mech in :c
lol
scenic patrol
@glossy musk NA and EU have different strats for Ink, EU use cardinals and NA use Chakra positions
Just use the common pug strat based on your region
stable basin
I can't wait to get a brd so this clear party can start wiping to Dadaluma
scenic patrol
When you see 3rd bleed is when you start sweating
lyric summit
but bard is the carpal tunnel job
unreal flax
Currently wasting away in a O8S PF with three ranged + me lol
lyric summit
he's fast
unreal flax
welcome to "We're gonna wipe because of this guy"
golden zenith
how do i get my logs on FFlogs so i can see what im doing wrong?
unreal flax
Exactly.
golden zenith
im using ACT
unreal flax
he has to run across the whole stage to drop his bomb and dodge missles and get to his chakra point lol
scenic patrol
Install the fflogs uploader
lyric summit
unreal flax
@ me if he eats a missle on the way and dies.
@ me if he doesn't make it and everyone takes damage down
scenic patrol
!whoami
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
scenic patrol
They kinda fit in with the glam
unreal flax
That's one of the best things about Au Ra. They can make shoes work that don't work for anyone else lol
stable basin
/run
storm frostBOT
unreal flax
Also, tights. Tights look better on them than every other race.
scenic patrol
On Au Ra?
unreal flax
No, I love the scales.
broken ore
So.... if a newly minted 70 was curious about endgame.... about what ilevel does he want to be wearing to get started?
unreal flax
But they have a slimmer profile so the tights don't look utterly ridiculous like the beefy cat legs or beefy human legs or beefy femroe legs
stable basin
if you want to do it while relevant anyway
paper torrent
If you're talking about msq
And just post msq
And not an alt you kinda have no choice but to just start with job gear and whatever right side you have
broken ore
Yeah, first 70. Nin and pld
paper torrent
You would probably now work your way up with early 70 dungeons like temple of the fist, get the ilevel for deltascape
broken ore
69.8 or so on nin
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Queue for delta
stable basin
Nice we lasted a whole 2 wipes before the mch got sick of drg eating missiles and mnk dropping his ray in melee range and left
paper torrent
And then farm delta 4.0 in for a 330 weapon which you'll aug to 340 with the old 24 man rabanstre
With a makeshift build you can run swallows compass
After doing the four lords questline
stable basin
I watched the drg straight up run out of his chakra circle to deepthroat a missile
broken ore
Ive noticed the centurio seal stuff at 310 I think, worth it or skip it?
paper torrent
Or you can gear up through sigma normal but you may or may not have a good roll experience
310 isn't really worth it
The reasoning is that seals are used for much better things now
Like augmenting 370
paper torrent
Swallows gives 345 gear and with that you can probably do ridoriana light house
For 360 gear
And augment 370
Medancity
In terms of weapons you have a variety of choices
You can spend some gil to get Hq 350 crafted
Aug it with 700 creation to 360
stable basin
Maybe I should just wait til sigma loot unlocks to beat mr robot
Except then all the good people will be in [Duty Complete] anyways won't they π€
paper torrent
You can also brave 4.2 ex trial parties and 4.3 ex trial parties for 355 and 365 respectively
broken ore
Heh... your choice of verb there is not encouraging
paper torrent
Yeah unfortunately all the learning parties are pretty... interesting
355 should be fine cause it is an easy fight but 365 na pugs are stupid af
I would also reccomend only gearing and learning one class at a time until you can just greed shit for alts
broken ore
I have everything at 60, except those two
Well, and all dol/doh, those were at 70 weeks ago
paper torrent
But yeah
You also need deltascape to unlock sigmascape
So you're going to want to do those anyway
You also need rabanstre to get aug 370 medancity from Ridoriana
Since you have to turn in a coin from both those raids
Also continue to do hunts for clusters
That will help when you gear up for savage
broken ore
Huh... just for materia?
broken ore
That the same as the adventurer in need bonus?
broken ore
Not too hard to farm on pld.... especially when leveling gives me ifrit normal three days in a row π
paper torrent
Yeah dungeon gearing is cozy af
Oh yeah HoH exists now for 365
That's another option
stable basin
HoH+Swallows compass gear is enough to hop into savage learning
Or sigma normal stuff
broken ore
Heh... i still need to beat potd 50
stable basin
Same
broken ore
I got to 40 last night, and found out i had to level up some more
paper torrent
Oh yeah that shit is obnoxious
Esspecially cause potd queue is ass
For low levels
broken ore
Should beat 50 and go to hoh tonight
paper torrent
Keep in mind HoH is 61 and above only
stable basin
I went and unlocked sch because I don't have any other healers just to force people to live
broken ore
Eh, im mostly 60, but Iβm sure one of them has slipped up to 61
paper torrent
It also only gives creation and medancity when you are 70
broken ore
I had a very strange party in potd last night, me on nin, two whm, and a drk
haughty hare
Until which level are we supposed to solo mobs in Eureka ?
broken ore
Like.... couldnβt you guys do better in regular queues
paper torrent
6 iirc
haughty hare
and what shouldI be doing then ? join parties in /shout ?
past hamlet
Trains!
paper torrent
Yeah the train of fate bosses yeah
past hamlet
Choochoo
stable basin
Pretty much as soon as you finish your log hop on the choochoo
paper torrent
They're technically called NMs but they're just glorified fates
stable basin
My brain keeps reading NM as Nightmare
haughty hare
Oh, we get to unlock mounts at some points ?
paper torrent
The boxes have a trex mount
stable basin
L17 quest lets you mount up
haughty hare
Okay, thanks guys !
stable basin
oh also
Mobs aggro if you walk into their sight which is a cone in front of them, and they don't aggro on people 3+ levels higher
That's legit the best info for eureka
scenic patrol
Not all mobs have the same aggro rules
stable basin
Are there any pure sound aggro mobs there? Been a while since I was lower level but I thought they were just sight/blood
dull radish
morbols
stable basin
Either way it's not about outrunning the bear, it's about outrunning the other guy being chased by it
barren grove
Sprites will aggro casting from a long distance, similar to undeads with low hp
snow girder
@stable basin the fans are sound
barren grove
Plantwomen are sound, idr eureka's name for it
unreal flax
We never heard back from Memories. I think they're still in O7S
Maybe SE Atomic -> W Chakra was meme enough for them to just give up and unsub entirely.
golden zenith
what's the first "endgame" raid?
the first relevant one i suppose
are all these Alexander raids im seeing on the wiki outdated content?
same for deltascape?
scenic patrol
I tried to do O4S today
Got to GCO
But damn progging so fast without even watching a video is confusing as fuck
Mostly the debuffs
And the fact that the fight simply says fuck you to res immunity
What's that, Almaghest did 0 damage?
Well guess what?
You still get the bleed
hot plover
O4S is harder than O8S
stable basin
Beat Guardian :D
Hope Kefka parties are less trap than Guardian
But not setting my expectations high
crystal mulch
is there a "setting profile " in this game? i'd like to swap my nameplates setting (off outside raid / on inside raid for mouseover macros) without having to change all the options
heavy mist
no
crystal mulch
aw k
paper torrent
@stable basin grats on clearing!
hot plover
kefka parties are just as trap
heavy mist
kefka is ultimate trap
hot plover
^^^
stable basin
Thanks :D
hot plover
TFW god kefka is easier than kefaust
stable basin
I've seen enough "3rd forsaken? More like 2nd graven" memes
hot plover
O5S and Clown Kekfa are the hardest fight in the tier
vital cypress
O5S and Kefaust have the same thing going on
where people tend to go in thinking they'll be easy
and then find themselves in an endless loop of instakill mechanics
also kefaust is a pain in the ass to optimize and has a fairly tight DPS check
split falcon
What da...
vital cypress
obviously the first tier of a raid series is going to be easy, obviously the first half of the final boss is the easy part
pure yoke
hi
snow girder
What's a page run btw?
dull radish
page run assumes that enough people have cleared for the week for the run, that there will be no chests
fossil basalt
run with people who've already cleared for the week without worrying about chests
dull radish
so no direct loot drops, if you're getting your weekly from that clear, you're only getting the weekly page
fossil basalt
basically page runs are for people who are saying "i don't give a shit about loot please just help me clear"
stable basin
Monday night 2chest bring the deeps 3 mistakes = kick i365 required
hot plover
I've also seen "page run" parse parties
dull radish
yeah
golden zenith
what does a good RDM do that an average RDM doesnt?
steep iris
nah 8s is better imo
oh i didn't scroll down
but a lot of traps get stuck at 7s
not to say 8s doesn't have traps but yea
stable basin
Whatβs the raid comp now ?
steep iris
2 tanks 2 healers 4 dps
for alliance raids 1 tank 2 healers 5 dps for each alliance
unless you mean what's the meta comp
then it's
war pld
ast sch
nin drg brd mch
mch can be switched out for other jobs i think
ornate blade
opal hollow
LOL
torn kindle
No RDM? feels fake
opal hollow
have run that comp
stable basin
That's the ally raid meta
high ether
dark mind is always 30% now, our superguard is on 2 minutes CD now, we have a portable Adlo that only lasts a few seconds but that is usually enough
and we get a cool aura
stable basin
And big sword
high ether
as big as you want it to be
dark knight is my favourite job in this game, everything about it is great
the animations, the gameplay, the glamours, the job quests
the invuln is a bit dangerous but as long as your whm has benediction you can push it to its limits
but most of all there's TBN, the anti-tankbuster
it's also extremely useful when you now there's raid damage incoming and one of the players is very low on health, just pop that TBN on them and they might just survive
steep iris
when your drk takes no damage from TBs
feelsgoodman
0 damage on last kiss
0 damage and no bleed from hyperdrive
PogChamp
opal hollow
tfw your tbn doesn't pop tho
getting a critlo and you don't notice
and you expect 50 gauge
LOL
mendacity weapon is through o6s/o8n right
opal hollow
yeah probs
stable basin
If you start now I don't think you'll even get it before the crystalloid unlocks
Oh right O6S works too
Possible you wouldn't even get the solvent before that gets way easier either
unreal flax
Looks like I have another Monday night 2 chest ahead of me.
unreal flax
Waited for static prog yesterday and today.
heavy mist
Ah I see
opal hollow
are the animations for caster ogcd shorter than tanks
cuz every time i try to doubleweave as sch/blm
i legit don't clip
at all
but the moment i try with drk/war
im clipping to hell and back
torn kindle
each oGCD has different animation windows
some are long (Jump), and some are short (mirage dive)
copper portal
What should be the meld priority on WHT?
vit>mind>critical>piety?
lyric summit
you only need vit melds for ultimate or minimal ilvl savage, rest is up to preference really
and you can't meld mind
pie is good for learning fights, more mp is always handy
and crit is good for dps and healing so jus meld what you prefer
copper portal
I think I'm gonna meld a bit of everything (thanks anemos gear!)
stable basin
Hey Guys so I want to come back and lvl a drg any tips ?
lyric summit
play the game and come here/ #questions-and-help with any questions π€·
follow msq/spam potd if it's an alt
solemn pagoda
spice comet
scenic patrol
Beating the tier at week 2 is very likely with those folks
But nothing is final yet
solemn pagoda
Good luck
scenic patrol
Warrior, like always
I am not qualified on other jobs to join a static of that level
opal hollow
damn melds don't matter than much in the grand scheme of things
dull radish
mmhmm
stable basin
How do you guys feel about mnks or sam in groups π
unreal lance
It's fine.
dull radish
like, there's a decent difference between no melds and any melds. But perfect melds vs not great melds, are a lot closer than a lot of folks often seem to think
stable basin
I main mnk
opal hollow
yeah this dude was pretty close to my dps with DH and tenacity melds
steady pebble
you playing well is more important than what class you are, imo
stable basin
That is true @steady pebble
opal hollow
man normal raid roulette was the best shit they intro'd
grizzled seal
dull radish
I'm not really doing anything tonight, and haven't done weeklies on either of my characters in weeks, so probably
dull radish
what time were you thinking?
unreal flax
I uh... I basically will be playing from 4:30 PST to 11, so any time in that window that works for you works for me. I don't actually have people involved besides you, so if you have people from your static who also need/want to clear for the week, I can bend to y'all time.
As you can see, I'm not exactly the best at organizing this shit lmao
dull radish
probably would be more on the tail end of that for me
dunno what other folks in my static are doing or if they're available or anything haha
unreal flax
Ooooh we gettin PUGLY!? AWW YEAH lol
viscid lion
Ok so my friend keep insisting that I do anemos to gear up to 350. But honestly I'm kind of burnt out. I'm getting close to maxing out most of my gear to anemos tier but I got impatient and instead bought mendacity thinking that Im going to do hard content anyway that would out class it.
My question is was I in the wrong for pulling the trigger and buying mendacity gear if it's outclassed by anemos. Because he insists that anemos is best gear for all hard content.
spice comet
U want to upgrade 360->370
Like from the 2 raids u farm coins for then use coin to buy item to upgrade
opal hollow
I highly doubt anemos is bis
spice comet
370 would be best for savage, 350 is what u use because medancity is weekly cap and it used to be that u had to get the item to upgrade through the hard content
So it would be a good starting point back in the day
opal hollow
If you dont like eureka you can also farm swallows compass dungeon for i345 gear
Ridorana lighthouse also gives you a weekly 360
coarse radish
You can get accessories first to inflate your ilvl since the cheaper and easier to get, but that isnt ideal ofc
spice comet
Anything none savage, yea 345 can get by alrdy, maybe not recommended for like moon bunny (spoiler) but eh
I did the tier in 350 crafted with overmelds till the last fight
Plus one 360 necklace by the third fight, so any more 360/370 mixed with either 350 anemos/crafted n melded, ur alrdy prettty good
viscid lion
Thanks for your answer
So I'll think I'll start doing that 24 man raid in that case so I can break into savage territory.
dull radish
if you really wanna grind it out, something like ifrit nm unsynced
scenic patrol
It's a bit of a shit time to get into savage in all honesty
scenic patrol
You use page runs/meme runs to practice off specs
scenic patrol
paper torrent
do... people expect page runs to actually not be practice
scenic patrol
Me, Mox, Jaren, Hass and another from Jaren's static
viscid lion
Speaking of eureka and anemos what's this talk of new expansion coming into that Eureka?
opal hollow
but yeah i think the lowest i have is a green parse
scenic patrol
Wut?
opal hollow
idk where all my greys went
scenic patrol
There's a new step in Eureka releasing next patch
opal hollow
ah they went to o8s LOL
opal hollow
pentameldable though?
opal hollow
oh yeah weapon damage is a pre strong stat huh
paper torrent
they learned from diadem
opal hollow
whaty happened with diadem?>
paper torrent
that making raid ilevel and grind ilevel the same
for BiS
was a fucking bad idea
at least for BIS
coarse radish
They should make vendor gear bis
scenic patrol
Diadem had ilvl 280 weapons
opal hollow
LOL
scenic patrol
Funny thing though
One of the DRK weapons that dropped
Was worse than the Anima
paper torrent
P A R R Y
dull radish
the scaling on the i280 weapons were also dumb haha
like for a 5 ilvl increase over raid weapons, I think it was like 2 weapon damage or something, along with more main stat increase than you'd usually see for 5 ilvl increase
boreal edge
it was 3 for magical jobs
unreal flax
I really just hope none of the floors of O9-12S are see-through.
Actually let's not do any knock-off-the-platform floors this tier.
I'm fine with death walls, though
last galleon
How are they different though, just a visual preference for you?
unreal flax
One you can res from immediately
The other, you have to wait for their body to reappear on the platform before you can even target them for the res.
Granted, this only applies to early prog, but it's an annoyance even late in the tier when someone misses a call and now we get to fuck up or fumble through Third Forsaken or some shit
vital cypress
counterpoint: bring back proper ring-outs
last galleon
Iβm not sure if that difference ever mattered for me personally. Usually if someone dies in 7 or 8 at an unfortunate time we pretty much wipe anyways
vital cypress
Titan sighed as he drew his angryfists
and punched half of the raid into the abyss
unreal flax
The difference is in what mechanics follow that person's death, how high rDPS is, and whether they can be rezzed in time.
If rDPS is barely beating enrage already, just wipe. if you're waaay over and can get them up in time for the next mechanic, why wipe?
If you can't get them up in time. it's likely a wipe unless the next mechanic doesn't require all 8 people
I mean, it's a matter of 5-7 seconds so it's not like it's a huge, massive issue.
boreal edge
@last galleon depends on when the person dies
a death right be4 chains in o7s
mt death be4 double wings ( not wipe worthy if 1 guy react fast to sacrifice himself )
stable basin
What is better to main drg or mnk??
unreal flax
Do you have a static?
stable basin
Not yet
unreal flax
So, the short answer is: They're both good in different ways. You can safely play either and get recruited into a group if you choose to do savage.
That said
MNK's biggest utility pieces are Brotherhood, which buffs physical damage and Mantra, which buffs healing.
scenic patrol
Play both
unreal flax
DRG's biggest utility pieces are Piercing Resistance Down, which benefits BRD, MCH, and to a lesser extent RDM, Battle Litany, which increases crit rate, and Dragon Sight, which increase's someone else's damage by 5%.
If you don't have a BRD or MCH or RDM in the group you're running with, DRG becomes basically MNK lol
stable basin
Drg sounds like my type
scenic patrol
But that doesn't mean you have to play it
The type of players that need meta comp won't recruit you due to the difference in skill
fossil basalt
i'd worry more about finding a job you actually enjoy playing
stable basin
That is true so far itβs mnk and drg
unreal flax
If you want to provide lots of support, you'll be looking at DRG and NIN.
fossil basalt
well there you go then
stable basin
Niceeeee
unreal flax
If you just want to provide support, everything except BLM and SAM are on the table.
stable basin
So drg is a good choice then
unreal flax
Yeah, DRG is great.
stable basin
Nice ! Thank you
unreal flax
My poor BRD is losing his DRG this week lol. I'm having too much fun with NIN now
rustic lichen
I always feel so useless without a DRG as BRD
boreal edge
we are talking about 350 dps give or take
dim bear
I'm DRG, and the BRD is never near enough for friendship tether
I usually try to give it to BRD, but then screws up my rotation, so tank gets it instead
dim bear
a WAR out parsed me the other day on my DRG... was pretty discouraging
scenic patrol
!whologs @scenic patrol
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
last galleon
i remember putting a friend's log into tethercalc and a couple of the instances it said the tether should've gone to war
scenic patrol
Yeah, WAR has burst dps on par with dps jobs
coarse radish
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boreal edge
@dim bear how brd screw your rot?
last galleon
Oof I parsed that as aether rot at first and got so confused
unreal flax
I gave tether to the SCH last night lol
Also, the WHM
If it's early prog, I'll throw the tether all over the place until it matters lol
you got it, boo
dull radish
I don't actually remember last time I've gotten tether haha, it's been a while
valid gate