endgame-lounge

[sour solstice]

yesterday today and tomorrow 9 cst

[paper torrent]

how the fuck do you upgrade anything else

[sour solstice]

I have no clue

[paper torrent]

but your pants and top first

[sour solstice]

I should've checked

[paper torrent]

why is his top 340

[sour solstice]

lmfao

[paper torrent]

AAAAAAAA

also 340 weapon

[boreal edge]

9 pm cst?

[paper torrent]

uber casuals

[sour solstice]

yeah

[paper torrent]

🔫

[sour solstice]

So that explains the grey

at least partially

[boreal edge]

5 am my time

no ty

lol

[paper torrent]

So i think

[boreal edge]

was trying to help

but man 5 am

[paper torrent]

it's either one of two things

it's either 'cause he keeps unsyching heavel

or because his SE uptime is only 82%

[sour solstice]

why not both

[paper torrent]

when especially in o6s it should be around 95%

because you can get above grey with a shitty SE uptime

lemme pull up my clear log

[boreal edge]

uptime in o6s?

should be 99%

[paper torrent]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/62RtCfYkGQgq8LFb#fight=2&type=damage-done

it should be 99%

[boreal edge]

unless he doing the wind

[paper torrent]

but this is casuals we're talkign about here

you can GCD greed black and blue but i prefer to stay safe

the timing to me is really tight and i don't care to optimize that much, even if i don't get hit with a vuln down

My clear parse had a 94% uptime, which was garbage but w/e. I think i even went content respecter too because something happended

[raw cliff]

just get spreadlo etc and ignore the earthquake huehue

or don't because optimizing O6S with all the LB cheese strats is pretty stupid

[unreal flax]

I uh... I just don't want to get into the plane. Please Adlo me.

[dull radish]

just an adlo, and you'll probably die haha. Since I need manaward and some other kind of shield to survive it

[unreal flax]

Gimme dat uh... fence

[dull radish]

palisade?

[sour solstice]

wait

is quake physical

[dull radish]

no haha

[sour solstice]

oh ok

Doesnt palisade only reduce physical?

[dull radish]

correct

[sour solstice]

Ah

[dull radish]

it's physical apoc

more or less

[unreal flax]

Oh, deng

lolololololol gimme bole

[dull radish]

so correct answer is, you'd want a shield and apoc and then maybe you'd live, brit. Or you can just roll GCD before hopping in plane last second, and come back out before the next GCD is up

[unreal flax]

lol

Yeah, I've gotten really, really close to dying doing that lol

BUT

So sex

[lyric kelp]

i tab in and i see brit

[unreal flax]

Hahaha

[dull radish]

hey, at least it means he's looking at party buffs

that's more than a lot of people

[unreal flax]

I honestly don't care about Train and Demon. They're the same as Snake and Eye from the last tier. Guardian and Kefka are the only fights that matter to me and I don't even need anything from Guardian anymore

[sour solstice]

discord white

[lyric kelp]

did duck carry you yet

😔

[unreal flax]

Nah, I haven't had much play time this week compared to when the offer was made.

I need to get duck on my damn friends list so I can see when they're online.

[pure yoke]

Hi

[sour solstice]

Himug

[unreal flax]

Mug <3

[dull radish]

Heya

[vital cypress]

hi cup

[unreal flax]

I need to practice my NIN more. My DPS on that job is so trash lol

[dull radish]

I wonder what daggers I have on my NIN. It'll probably be my last job to level to 70, though MCH may take that spot, not sure yet. Never liked either all that much

I feel like it's probably horde daggers, though

[heavy mist]

Sigh Nin

[unreal flax]

Is the herokuapp down?

[dull radish]

seems like it might be having issues yeah

[unreal flax]

Of course it is the first time I want to use it since deltascape lol

[dull radish]

heh, I occasionally looked at it, mostly to see how much Holis Cube got from all their padding. That, and the tether calc was another interesting tool

[unreal flax]

I like the tether calc, even though I'm sometimes really suboptimal on it.

[lyric summit]

it seems to have been down for quite some time, I wanted to check if my sicruda is doing anything worth keeping in my 2caster uwu but couldn't get it to work either, like 3-4 days ago

[dull radish]

probably something with the fflogs update

[simple mist]

Hey if 4/8 people clear an encounter for the week, will there be one chest still?

[unreal flax]

I think it becomes zero chest at four people.

[heavy mist]

yes

oh

uh i think 4 is still 1 chest?

[unreal flax]

Probably.

I can't remember for sure.

Just checked. 5 or more is zero chest

[ornate blade]

i cant carry if im not even on my 8s for the week

havent even done 7 yet

[kind schooner]

are those HoH weapons actually worth getting, at 100 aether arm and armor strength? Or is there another i355/360 weapon thats easier to get

Or at least less grindy

[lusty oak]

Tsuki

10 kills = 1 wep 100%

[kind schooner]

Is that the 4.3 primal? What ilv should I have for that

I'd have to use a tome+rabanstre coin weapon (340 or 345) until I get to that

[steady pebble]

tsuki is 4.3 primal, yeah. min is 350 tho parties might ask for higher

[scenic patrol]

If you have some Gil

You can buy the Crafted weapon

And augment it

[kind schooner]

I dont have any crafters or gatherers so no real way to make gil besides rare dungeon drops, so thats out. An FC member said theyd make me armor if I buy the creation items for them

so hopefully I can mix/match armor with the midway weapon and hit that mark, thanks

[steady pebble]

there's plenty of ways to make money without crafting or gathering

retainer ventures, treasure maps, potd/hoh

play a tank and do leveling roulette for adventurer in need bonus

do all of your roulettes

[kind schooner]

i guess I can start treasure maps. My retainer has been on over 100 ventures and is still only like level 48 or something so prob never gonna make $ from them

[steady pebble]

You can make money from them

regardless of lvl

plenty of low lvl items that still sell decently

look at your market

and do research

[kind schooner]

Yeaaah big server so nothing they can get sells well

Like, 300 gil per item at most but then I gotta run to the bell every hour for like, what, 2.5k

[steady pebble]

just because it doesn't sell for a lot

doesn't mean it doesn't sell well

if its sells consistently

its better than trying to sell 10mil+ item that moves slowly

[kind schooner]

Id rather just avoid using the marketboard lol, I go out and farm tons of logs and realize a month later they never sold and the price dropped 70%

Like my 500 wood logs that went from 1.1k/each to 150 each

[steady pebble]

Except the marketboard is where most of your gil is going to come from

so you basically don't want to make gil

is what you're saying

[kind schooner]

Mhm. So I cant make crafted gear 😛

Its whatever, gil is only really used for housing and I got a house already so grind done

[normal mesa]

i mean its also used for the gear we are literally telling you this

also raid food and pots if you can't make them

[languid parcel]

does your chocobo need to stay in the stable when you fed him to change color or can i take him with me again?

[sour solstice]

let him digest his food

[steady pebble]

yeah, can't take him out until the...8 hrs iirc are up

else you'll have to start all over again

[shadow pollen]

diamond fists getto

i370 getto

yay

[unreal flax]

Congrats.

[sour solstice]

Made it to bilbio add

this fight is starting to grow on me tbh

[dull radish]

It can be a pretty fun fight <3

[blissful solstice]

o7s is a cool fight

[split falcon]

o7s can go suck a dick

[boreal edge]

o7s is worst raid fight so far in SB

[lyric summit]

nah that's o1s

[split falcon]

o7s at least has mechanics

[lyric summit]

o7s is gucci it's 2 targets half the time it's smn wet dream

[split falcon]

o1s/o2s/o6s are far worse fights simply because striking dummy

o7s is just a pain in the ass

[lyric summit]

o5s design is pretty trash too, the whole adds->chimney->cars shouldn't even be in savage, but at the same time it would be boring af without that

[boreal edge]

just cause they are dummies=/ bad fight

[split falcon]

it’s boring af anyway

well in those instances, the fact they are dummies make them bad fights

[boreal edge]

that subjective

[split falcon]

you’re right

it is subjective

but I can still say it

just like you can say o7s is worst raid fight in sb

imagine that, opinions exist, more news at 7

[boreal edge]

o7s is literally against mch playstyle

[split falcon]

Yeah

That’s why I fucking hate it

o7s is such a fucking trashcan fire

[lyric summit]

every fight is

[boreal edge]

not every fight

[scenic patrol]

I don't mind tanking O7S

[split falcon]

hali is good

[scenic patrol]

[split falcon]

hali is my favorite raid fight in sb

[boreal edge]

o3s was decent

hell its best fight

[lyric summit]

ye hali is good shit

[boreal edge]

so far

[split falcon]

ye

[boreal edge]

hope o11s is like it

[split falcon]

It’d be decent compared to alex but in stormblood it’s like best lmao

I hope cruise chaser comes back

[lyric summit]

but also i thought the tethers fucked with wildfire/ft

[split falcon]

Tethers?

[boreal edge]

u dont have wf mid tethers

briars

[lyric summit]

the swapping stack and all that

[split falcon]

oh

[boreal edge]

he meant

[split falcon]

nah wf never happened during

I think directly before one of them happens

[boreal edge]

wf always down in those downtimes

always

[split falcon]

And WF explodes right as you start walking with the debuff

I could be misremembering

It’s been a while

but it never directly fucked with WF

[lyric summit]

i have an 81 on hali as mch but i did it like twice so i have no idea how it went

[split falcon]

I didn’t really like any of the Sigma raids tbh

Maybe Godka

[boreal edge]

godka is annoying

[split falcon]

godka was nice because no downtime

[boreal edge]

i liked neo exdeath more

[split falcon]

I hate downtime in fights

nahh I thought Neo was boring

dps literally did nothing

Aggro resets as tank felt even worse

[lyric summit]

try healing that shit 💦

[split falcon]

fight was over as soon as you saw GCO

Godka was the same way mind you

[lyric summit]

i like kefka it's fun with the fakeout telegraph though it gets boring eventually

plus anything is better than exdeath black holes

[split falcon]

I hated both of our Faust fights tbh

So much downtime

[boreal edge]

well godka does have downtime

6 secs if u get sleep

[scenic patrol]

yeah, 3 seconds

[split falcon]

If you’re gonna give fuckloads of downtime to focus purely on mechanics you better give us some Octets or A8S intermissions you know

not tethers

[boreal edge]

i thought uwu has 3 mins downtime

enjoy that

[split falcon]

yeah and it’s great

I’ll gladly deal with that downtime everytime

As I have

it’s not 3 mins tho it’s like a min and a half

[boreal edge]

wait not sleep

sleep is 3 secs

confuse is 6

so 12

[scenic patrol]

it's barely anything anyhow

[lyric summit]

titan kill to ultima targettable is like over a minute already

[scenic patrol]

[split falcon]

it’s less if you kill before the second set of tethers

[boreal edge]

almost 5 gcds

[scenic patrol]

speed has no downtime btw

since they kill before Forsaken 3

[boreal edge]

only top 5% have 9 mins kills

wut

fastest kill is 8 mins

halfway in thick trine

[split falcon]

I don’t consider sleep/confuse tethers “downtime” either way

Boss still targetable

Rook still autoing

[scenic patrol]

dots are still ticking

[split falcon]

yeah

[lyric summit]

i'm out of range for a gcd when doing west starstrafe prey it's tragic

[split falcon]

Is Godka not being tanked mid??

[lyric summit]

but i'm also not trying to get in range cause i'm scared of hitting a melee

[boreal edge]

@lyric summit get close at 3rd meteor

[lyric summit]

idk he like flies off to do the future/past

[boreal edge]

no need to drop it on edge

[split falcon]

you should have full uptime

[lyric summit]

yeah i knoww

it's like a ruin 2 idm i'm trash anyways

[split falcon]

same

[lyric summit]

gotta call east prey faster

[boreal edge]

melee should be at 5th bait by then

[split falcon]

anyway tho Ultima downtime is nice since it’s a clean reset and you get a full reopener with pot

[boreal edge]

so u wont hit em

and even if u did

melee almost take 0 dmg at 2nd forsaken

aside from meteor

[split falcon]

And the cutscene basically just gives you time to kind of refocus

[heavy mist]

refocus and rebuild the tension that if u wipe u need to redo it

[split falcon]

Feels really good to take a breath before the hardest parts of that fight

[lyric summit]

yeah just put a checkpoint after lahabread or something gee

[split falcon]

No

[heavy mist]

sees predation

wipe

lets go again

[scenic patrol]

probably to lessen effects of mental taxing like it was in Ucob

[split falcon]

hey, if it’s 12 minutes of perfection to see two more seconds of fight, that’s two more seconds closer to the clear

it’s slow but the progress is therr

[heavy mist]

and honestly

most groups wont see it again for a couple pulls

couple being generous

[split falcon]

and I for one welcome it considering there’s nothing else to even do in game

Depends on group consistency

Sometimes we get 3 Ultima pulls in a row, sometimes we fuck up a gaol, sometimes people need to refocus

it gets more consistent over time

[heavy mist]

you'd hope

depends

[split falcon]

well from what I’m currently experiencing

it is getting more consistent over time

[heavy mist]

where u at

[split falcon]

Annihilation

🙏

[heavy mist]

🙏

[split falcon]

clean predations though

[boreal edge]

so suppression next and u win

[split falcon]

good intermission into annihilation

nah there’s still primal roulette + orbs

A lot of healing

[heavy mist]

suppression next then its enrage for days

as u get used to the last 50%~

[split falcon]

Don’t underestimate the intermissions between predation/annihilation/suppression

[heavy mist]

people do? 🤔

[split falcon]

people relax after they deal with suppression, yes

can literally see it happen with groups

Everyone breathes after suppression is over

And that one lapse in judgement and boom

[heavy mist]

wait u talked about intermission

[split falcon]

Hey garuda

[heavy mist]

then talked about after suppression

🤔

[split falcon]

yeah

[boreal edge]

he meant

[heavy mist]

i was talking about intermission

[boreal edge]

aetherial bomb

those balls

[split falcon]

you realize enrage doesn’t happen right after suppression right?

[heavy mist]

well yes....

[boreal edge]

there is balls mechanic after

[heavy mist]

nvm just disregard me

[boreal edge]

then he enrages

[split falcon]

And primal roulette

with garuda/titan/Ifrit spamming their ultimates

[heavy mist]

[split falcon]

I’m pretty hyped though tbh

for a little static that barely finds time to raid

[pure yoke]

Aetheric Boom is pretty spooky

for healers

the last phase in general is really spooky for healers

due to all the raidwide being lethal without full hp + mitigation

[lyric summit]

i was 🤔 for half this expert trying to figure out what the hell this astro's weapon was, a 320 dungeon drop weapon? that's not a thing

it was. normal quality crafted weapon, the thing that's like barely any better than the job quest reward

tragic

[torn kindle]

i320 crafted NQ is worse than i290

It's about as good as the i279 HQ crafted axe

[zinc vortex]

i was running HW dungeons for my relic then joined friends for a ridorana run on AST

forgot to unequip my i170 relic :)

[daring berry]

I had a lighthouse run that has such a low overall dps that construct 7 was about to give us a 3rd math test lol

[torn kindle]

He never does math a 3rd time, he only ever does 2 sets of math.

I know that because I had a 25 minute fight with him in the first week

[elder dawn]

Tfw you realize the boss’s hp is designed with everyone having damage up stacks in mind

[torn kindle]

well that 25 minute fight had like 50 deaths or something

since it was the first few days of 4.3

[unreal lance]

Had a run with 130 deaths or something

[daring berry]

oh that's good to know, i know we had overall low dps because my alliance B had 2 SMN and 2 RDM + 1 BRD that was doing dps range of 3k to 4k

and then alliance C was somehow still killing their adds slower than us.

[coarse gate]

the ala mhigan sets are still the bset doh dol sets right?

(best because universally usable, i know each class has one set higher

[lyric summit]

nah there's i340 stuff now

[steady pebble]

Not anymore

Onishi/Yamashi sets are BiS

[coarse gate]

yanashi is gatherer?

[steady pebble]

yes

[coarse gate]

because i want to collect mats to have my omnicrafter friend craft me 70 gear. hq if i can get the mats otherwise nq and hq i do later 😃

[steady pebble]

https://www.garlandtools.org/db/#list/nW2TMd3wr6

should have all the mats required for both sets and tools

[coarse gate]

huh neat

ok... gatherers first. by god this list looks expensive. obviously

[lyric summit]

this site's good too, sorts everything by gathered, drops, traded, sub-crafts and all that jazz

[steady pebble]

mhm

[lyric summit]

http://www.ffxivcrafting.com/list/saved/22906,1:22905,1:22908,1:22915,1:22907,1:22909,1

oh i guess it's exactly the same thing huh

[coarse gate]

huh. i need more water clusters

where do you get them easily

[steady pebble]

if you've got your gatherers leveled can do aetherial reduction for them

caiman, dravanian bass, snow crab, sweatfish for fishing reductions

perlite and radiant astral moraine for mining reduction

[coarse gate]

aetherical what?

[steady pebble]

Some collectable items can be reduced down

kind of like the gathering version of desynthesis

you get crystals/clusters and depending on the item sand

how much you get/whether you get sand is dependent on the purity rating

[coarse gate]

oh ok

[steady pebble]

iirc you can get between like 20-30 clusters per reduction

might be a bit lower, since they kind of nerfed aetherial reduction is stormblood :\

[coarse gate]

cant seem to get the node to spawn. does it count if i just mine crystals around the area?

[steady pebble]

eh are you sure the node's up

since for mining they're timed nodes

[coarse gate]

oh i thought the clock symbol means i just need to mine stuff around it

[steady pebble]

ahh no, that means its timed

[coarse gate]

oh. thought the ??? ones were the only timed ones

[steady pebble]

so the node only appears at specific times (eorzea time)

there's 2 types of timed nodes

the ephemeral and um

i forgot the other

[coarse gate]

the unspoiled stuff

[steady pebble]

Yeah unspoiled lol

ephemeral nodes stay up for 2hrs

and don't go poof once you've hit them once

you gather from them and then go quickly hit like 2-3 other nodes and the ephemeral node respawn

until the 2hr window is over

[coarse gate]

ah i see

[steady pebble]

i should also note that the length of the window is for eorzea time, if i'm remembering correctly

[coarse gate]

yeah it always is. would be stupid otherwise

for that crafting site you sent, how do i save my list / my progress on it?

[steady pebble]

there's circles next to each item, you just click on it to indicate you have gathered/crafted that item

and the website should save change you made automatically

[coarse gate]

no i mean save as in if i close the tab...
oh ok

or say if i want to send this list to my crafter

[steady pebble]

on the header, there's a little icon that looks like three circles linked together

click on that to generate a link

[coarse gate]

ah ok. also... the site has an alarm feature, how do i mark items for it? or does it just alert if any are available

[steady pebble]

need to go to the bell section of the site, and then find the items you want alerts for and add them to a list

[coarse gate]

ok i shall look for that

huh i cant find the bell.. wonder where its hiding

[steady pebble]

https://www.garlandtools.org/bell/

[coarse gate]

thx

[lavish cobalt]

Hey peeps i was wondering if somebody could tell me ways to level up alt jobs fast. Everybody keeps saying PotD but i would like some more methods so i won't get bored by spamming potd D:

[unreal flax]

Daily Roulettes.

[steady pebble]

fates, pvp, beast tribes

[sour solstice]

pre 60 fates are pretty slow

[steady pebble]

eh they're not that bad with a chocobo

[sour solstice]

Im saying xp wise

[steady pebble]

also i would add hunting bills for 50-70

[unreal flax]

If you're fine with waiting, you can just spam whatever the highest level dungeon is, but yeah. Daily Roulettes > PotD > PVP (WIn) > FATEs/Beast Tribes > PVP (loss)

[sour solstice]

just que up for highest available dungeo

if you spam fates

[lavish cobalt]

Alrighty

[sinful storm]

Is it worth making a party finder group for sigma normals? Ive done about 15 runs now and got 1 spring. Or is there any other way to get 350 gear?

[grizzled seal]

eureka, crafted gear, the newest 24man (1 piece per week)

also tomestone (mendacity) gear is 360

also the newest dungeon drops i345 iirc

[scenic patrol]

^

Swallow's gear is also really nice looking

And is probably BiS for Ucob

[unreal lance]

when dungeon gear is useful

Wutface

[sinful storm]

Yeah I’m capped on mendacity and only level 1 in Eureka (recently returned to the game) hmm I’ll have a look thanks

[split falcon]

mixture of 345 anemos and swallow's is bis for most classes

for ucob

[vital cypress]

speaking of gear

roughly how much damage is a gear tier worth on BRD?

like going from all i350 to all i360

obviously sub stats are going to affect the exact number but I’ve been trying to get a rough idea

[lyric summit]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6qlokp/gear_stat_calculation_spreadsheet/

this holds all the answers if you figure out how to use it

[vital cypress]

that works

thanks!

[scenic patrol]

Well I guess I am going to be a SCH main for like 3 months now

[sour solstice]

nice

[scenic patrol]

Starting a new UwU static

And I can gear up SCH to BiS quite fast on my main

[lyric summit]

does it count as enrage if it's not awoken

[scenic patrol]

not really

but nice progress

[lyric summit]

sad

[scenic patrol]

Now I am making my own UwU static and I need to gear up SCH

so I need to grind tomes

gonna spam Swallow's like a madman tomorrow after work

[boreal edge]

@scenic patrol heal o7s better 1st

[scenic patrol]

literally my first time healing savage

[paper torrent]

@scenic patrol ah so you ain't playing the bitch healer anymore good

[boreal edge]

im joking

[scenic patrol]

not exactly

gearing SCH should be the easiest currently for me

since my main has the resources to do so

so many unused pages

and the fact that I am a level 70 SMN

comes nicely into play here

so no leveling necessary

why delet

that was amusing

[paper torrent]

I missed it what was it

[scenic patrol]

someone complaining about content buyers/sellers in PF

and the next message mocking him for not clearing any content

[sour solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/100463940835762176/465616966330220544/unknown.png

he reposted it in general chat

dunno why he deleted it

[paper torrent]

Hahaha that is great

[elder lark]

lmao the salt is real

[unreal flax]

NIN doesn't feel too bad in O8S. I just have to remember to do the TCJ opener instead of the Bhava one.

[boreal edge]

@unreal flax u dont do bhava opener in any fight

in sigma

[unreal flax]

I also don't main NIN lol

[boreal edge]

o6s

[unreal flax]

Yeah, O6S makes sense.

[boreal edge]

he move 10 secs after placing doton

so no

[unreal flax]

yup

[boreal edge]

other fights u can do tcj opener

[unreal flax]

The reason I keep doing it is because it was the first one I got used to.

5th GCD Trick + Bhava.

[sinful storm]

What materia are people using for Astro now a days? I know SCH used to be crit and accuracy but I’m back and on Astro now

[paper torrent]

Accuracy materia

[sour solstice]

[paper torrent]

Man those were dark times

[unreal flax]

Man, the days of Accuracy caps

[paper torrent]

Parry

[unreal flax]

Uhhh, AST is pretty flexible, afaik.

[sour solstice]

Like all healers its Crit>det>sps

unless you want DH

whether or not you meld DH is a style choice

[spice comet]

Crit > det > sps/piety

Prog melds

[sour solstice]

• vit right side for prog

[scenic patrol]

I'd say that Piety over Det for prog

[spice comet]

Yea vit is so prog

[scenic patrol]

especially UwU

[paper torrent]

Press that aetherflow buttom

[spice comet]

I have done builds for piety and sps for prog, how to heal a lot n barely dps

[paper torrent]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[lyric summit]

fire 6 melds for ucob

that was a good meme

[spice comet]

Those were good days

Making money off memes

[scenic patrol]

anyhow Ravin I am going to heal UwU in a couple of weeks once the static is done

hopefully we'll be able to recruit a full team

[spice comet]

Ooo fun

GL

[scenic patrol]

[lyric summit]

the ucob thread where there were recurring comments requesting bahamut's feet and people were like "what is this shitty meme it's not good" but it was all one guy

[scenic patrol]

got some time to gear up SCH to BiS

[spice comet]

It's not bad except server ticks so min heals is reeeee

👌 👌

[scenic patrol]

gonna cap tomes tomorrow

and possibly pug O7S

[spice comet]

Nice, nice 👍

[scenic patrol]

only need one Godka run for gear

since I am at 7 pages

[spice comet]

Lol extra pages r the best :V

[scenic patrol]

I only healed a bit of savage so I also need to git gud

!charlogs omega johni bravo

[storm frost]

Johni Bravo of Omega

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train**

White Mage: (11551/18937) [1616 DPS] [39 Historical] [7:14]

**Demon Chadarnook**

White Mage: (13080/17918) [1428 DPS] [27 Historical] [8:02]

**Guardian**

White Mage: (11828/12857) [1112 DPS] [8 Historical] [11:13]

Best historical percentile, dps, and time are displayed individually from each other and are not necessarily from the same parse.

[spice comet]

😏 👌

[scenic patrol]

[boreal edge]

green green grey

[spice comet]

Them memes

Good luck, just need practice 👌

[sour solstice]

daily reminder that o7s prey is supreme cancer

[boreal edge]

@sour solstice i lower that cancer by 50%

[sour solstice]

yeah

healing a covered prey is zzzz

[paper torrent]

Ah PLD privilege

[sour solstice]

healing first prey when its dada before biblio

is such cancer

[paper torrent]

Good idea SE

[sour solstice]

the dot tick tends to happen at the same fucking time the shockwave htis

[boreal edge]

@sour solstice still better than healing it at 2nd set of dada/bilbio

[sour solstice]

I didnt find it that bad there

[boreal edge]

because of baiting atomic

[dull radish]

bleed doesn't happen during baiting atomic

the one with the shockwave can be pretty annoying though yeah

[boreal edge]

oh and

you got 2nd aura cannon

enjoy a prey right after

[sour solstice]

that happens during the first though

[scenic patrol]

the 1-3 bleeds into prey is cancer

[dull radish]

it's not bad

[sour solstice]

2 bleeds into prey is monkaS

[boreal edge]

if u get 3rd bleed might as well leave grp

[sour solstice]

3 daddy bleeds is yeah

that group aint killing

[boreal edge]

dps wont be enough

even if it was deathless ( but who im lying to here? )

[scenic patrol]

I guess for prey as SCH it's Adlo into Sexcog

and the rest for the other healer

[boreal edge]

sexcog rip that vagina

[sour solstice]

I largesse/regen tetra

unless its the one I said above

then I have to cure 2

[dull radish]

tether is pretty cozy for prey

[sour solstice]

because if they dont have 40k when that shockwave hits rip

[vital cypress]

hey, a use for fey union

[pure yoke]

there are multiple uses of fey union

hardly a useless skill

[vital cypress]

i didn't say the use for it

but yeah it comes pretty close to nullifying prey

throw an adlo out maybe

[full saffron]

3% before the kill.... we have 3 lb bars full

.....

healer uses lb

where can I rant?

[sour solstice]

#rants

[pure yoke]

what fight is that

[full saffron]

thanks yalia

just o8s

though first kill

[sour solstice]

door clown or real clown

[full saffron]

godka

[pure yoke]

but you killed it

[full saffron]

nope

ultima killed us

boss had like 10hp left

felt lile 10hp

like*

[pure yoke]

did someone die?

[full saffron]

feels bad man

yeah with 1 dead

[lyric summit]

low deeps

[pure yoke]

tragic

[full saffron]

no wsit

we had 5 dead people

xD

[lyric summit]

rip

[full saffron]

yeah

im a bit sad

[pure yoke]

when I progged through sigma

I saw sub 1% enrage like

4 times

[full saffron]

well i wouldn't be mad by low deeps alone

but it was a sure kill with that lb

-.-

and yeah I'm salty

[lyric summit]

it's oki you kill it soon

before reset

[full saffron]

well I wanted to do it before the reset

can't I have to work tomorrow evening

which sucks :(

[lyric summit]

rip

I feel like if you're doing weeklies after reset and PF hosts aren't super.. "dumb" most would let you into a weekly duty complete if you linked a 1% enrage log

that's how I got my first o7s with xeno

[boreal edge]

ultima isnt enrage

that means u got bad healers

not mitigating it

there is still 10 secs cast loj

[vagrant gulch]

I cleared o5 and o6 last night

now I'm trying o7

can't get a party that can consistently get to virus

kms

[boreal edge]

o5s and o6s are very easy compared to o7s

but o7s also easy

but annoying fight

[vagrant gulch]

definitely

o6 is a big training dummy

but I mean I can understand failing

[scenic patrol]

Xeno plays on EU?

[vagrant gulch]

when virus happen

[scenic patrol]

[vagrant gulch]

but before that?

woa

[sour solstice]

I mean

prey is cancer

but the dps classes failing a mechanic?

[vagrant gulch]

LMAO

[scenic patrol]

What the heck is there to fail as a DPS

Pressing buttons?

[sour solstice]

Eat a missle

run into people with ink

face airforce towards the party

throw tentacle in a random direction

fuck up biblio

[scenic patrol]

[vagrant gulch]

time to get back to wiping at biblio

[sour solstice]

1 add is a wipe in pugs

9 times out of 10

[vagrant gulch]

yep

but it's like

people tyr to squeeze

1 gcd

out of the boss

then fail to make it to the point

like

if you can't be consistent stop fucking up

rEEEEEEEEE

ok bai

[sour solstice]

you can pull that of on like

drg/rdm

but otherwise

[wet stag]

But yalia

Muh souleater

Muh bloodspiller

[unreal flax]

Got myself a nice little grey clown clear on NIN lol

Third Forsaken again

[dull radish]

you can do it <3

[scenic patrol]

getting close Brit

good luck boyo

[unreal flax]

Thanks guys! 😊

[rose basin]

what materia do i meld on RDM?

was gonna do spellspeed but this chest is 265/265

[scenic patrol]

Why would you meld spell speed on RDM?

[sour solstice]

SPS is uh

pretty crap on RDM

[scenic patrol]

Your worst stat

[dull radish]

still not a bad stat, important to note

[scenic patrol]

Oh yeah

[dull radish]

since that's a very common misconception

[scenic patrol]

It's not a dead stat

[dull radish]

it's just, the other options are worth a good bit more for RDM

[scenic patrol]

But you don't pursue that stat over others

Anyhow meld Crit>DH>Det

[sour solstice]

no reason to have an SPS meld ever

[rose basin]

dh?

[sour solstice]

Direct Hit

[scenic patrol]

Direct Hit

[rose basin]

ok

[scenic patrol]

What type of content are you looking to mainly doing?

If it's savage and you are starting now I recommend having some VIT melds

On right side accessories

[spiral axle]

what food does scholar eat

i cant afford sushi

[steep iris]

crimson cider?

[paper torrent]

can confirm, am lazy dps/tank main and just use cider

[worthy vigil]

😃

[torn kindle]

I wanna buy him but it jumped back in price on gilgamesh. I hope it goes back down below 10 mil soon

[vagrant gulch]

got tired of pugging o7s. At one point I was top dps of the party, with dps doing shit like at best 3.5k. Join a party with "virus prog", can't get to virus. Someone offered me a spot in a static so I guess I'll take that. Feelsbadman

[shadow pollen]

Got Faustlet

true endgame goals

[wheat garnet]

Yeah PUGs for o7s prog seem very hit and miss

I was lucky enough to get a couple that were decent enough to let me go past virus reliably. But my friend couldn't get any that was able to even reach virus

And that's someone decent enough to clear shinryu EX.

[sour solstice]

Shinny is a questionable benchmark

[unreal flax]

I'll be mildly uncomfortable if my NIN clears the tier before my DRG.

[boreal edge]

if nin can clear be4 drg doesnt mean you are bad drg

[unreal flax]

Yeah, that's true.

[lyric kelp]

Hey brit

Did duck carry you yet

He spent the entire day yesterday telling me it was the day to get you your clear

Did he pull a big bamboozle

[unreal flax]

We couldn't do it last night. Someone was MIA.

Gonna try tonight.

[dull radish]

if you end up needing another dps, lemme know, I'll be around tonight

and likely my last night to do any raiding sort of stuff until I get back from vacation, since I don't especially wanna raid on my laptop while I'm gone

[lyric kelp]

you can do it brit

[unreal flax]

<3

[zinc vortex]

i believe in you, you can do it

[dull radish]

<3

[unreal flax]

<3 <3

[regal halo]

@dull radish have a fun one

[dull radish]

Thanks <3

[scenic patrol]

@unreal flax

[unreal flax]

<3

[vagrant gulch]

saw enrage for o7 finally. Feeling confident with a clear soon

[stable basin]

damnit people on tonberry and the JP center as a whole open your damn eyes at all times during tsukuyomi fight

[normal mesa]

don't feel bad. it's aether and primal too

[ornate blade]

dude look

our smn pulled the big bamboozle not me

11pm

shes 2 hours away from home

[spice comet]

Jp is prob still better than aether and primal

[ornate blade]

tonights the clear 😤

monday night 2 chest

[unreal flax]

lmao :pogclamp:

[stable basin]

still people run around like bind bat during the fan AOE

oh and that BLM turret that does not want to move at all

[hot plover]

carry me UwU

[glass gale]

is eureka the best way to gear new blood up

[unreal lance]

I guess

Probably the most soul crushing way tbh

[glass gale]

i got a couple new players who want to get started on the endgame and i figure that's the best way to go about it

not entirely sure tho

HoH has a solid weapon, right?

[unreal flax]

HoH weapon is decent for some classes. Inferior to TsukEx weapon for others.

[glass gale]

for a drg?

[lyric summit]

if you're going for some high sks build then maybe

but dh/det (tsuku) is generally better than dh/sks

[unreal flax]

TsukEx weapon is decent for DRG. It's kinda alright from HoH.

Both are better than the raw i360 weapon

!item Otegine

[storm frost]

**Otegine** **:** Lancer's Arm **:** ilvl 360

Damage

102

Magic Damage

69

Auto Attack

95.2

Strength

330

Vitality

358

Determination

298

Skill Speed

209

Materia Meldable

Yes

[glass gale]

will prolly run him through hoh when he's at 70

[boreal edge]

i remember my drg was crying til he got diamond lance

sks made his rot nightmare

[unreal flax]

That's the boat I'm in. It really is UGH.

BUT

[lyric summit]

aetherpool is shared for all jobs, plus you can hoh at 61 @glass gale

[unreal flax]

Right now, my DRG is at like 1275SkS lmao

It's more than just the spear

I have the Diamond headpiece and tomes bracelet, which both have SkS.

Why am I doing this? No fuckin clue.

[pure yoke]

tragic

[opal hollow]

Finally got my FC their o8s clear

feelsgoodman

[sour solstice]

Ok

Universe brain idea here

what if the MoHun crossover is part of o9-12

[opal hollow]

that would be sick

it's coming out soon right?

[sour solstice]

september is speculated

[opal hollow]

damn

that's further away than i thought

[wet stag]

@sour solstice but it's the god kefka of omegascape

Savage only boss

[sour solstice]

Dude

The saltmining

that would be glorious

[wet stag]

I know

[unreal flax]

Looool holy shit.

[wheat garnet]

Hum, how can a physical DPS get the pull in debuff in O7s ?

I got it as MNK and kinda killed the group as I just placed for regular melee positionning

[steep iris]

the pull in debuff?

you mean the + and - in addition to searing?

[wheat garnet]

in virus phase. people get magnets

[steep iris]

the ranged dps need to be as far from the boss as possible

to bait those

[wheat garnet]

4 get one pulling them together. The others one that pushes them away

Oh

[steep iris]

if they aren't then the farthest and the 2nd farthest dps (which happened to be you) got it

they have to be there before virus starts

so like, once the thing shows on screen they gotta book it

[wheat garnet]

So I guess a distance DPS was badly placed

I'm barely getting used to O7s so when things like that happen I get a tad lost

4-4.5k DPS as MNK is enough to clear this ?

[steep iris]

no

aim for at least 5k

or even higher since mnk has high personal dps off the bat

!faq mnkguide

[storm frost]

Tiffany's 4.X MNK Guide

Info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10bGbxDogNxijYg_8OIp8XHaPR0tBCjXGhlv-j3dhWMc/

[steep iris]

this should help you

[wheat garnet]

Thanks, I guess I need to look at this again

Also try to not play too safe

Especially with missiles

Their hitbox seems pretty weird

[steep iris]

don't sweat missiles, just react to them calmly

[wheat garnet]

Probably doesn't help that I play from across the atlantic :/

[steep iris]

also note that there are multiple spots that are always safe

and you probably know this already but use your gcds before they become available

and try not to clip your gcd

[wheat garnet]

Yeah I spam them before they're available

[steep iris]

https://i.imgur.com/y5rplam.jpg

there's the safe spots

[wheat garnet]

IIRC the guide says forbidden chakra can be dual oGCDed but I never managed it

Oh

Always ?

That's really good to know

[steep iris]

yep

[wheat garnet]

That should help a bunch if the boss isn't tanked too far off

[steep iris]

and idk too much about mnk

but if you said you're playing across the atlantic I'm assuming your ping is high

and you prob can't double weave without clipping

[wheat garnet]

That's what I assumed 😦

Maybe I could learn to use potions

I just stick to food for now

[steep iris]

a lot of people (including me) don't use pots that often

it's too expensive imo

food is up 100% of the time while I'm raiding though

[wheat garnet]

Oki

[steep iris]

it'll definitely help your dps though

although following the guide is your best bet at increasing your dps to what it should be

the balance discord is also a pretty good resource if you have any questions

(when they're not shitposting)

[hybrid rapids]

Frey

[wheat garnet]

I believe I got the basic level somewhat down. But I really struggle to keep uptime during some phases

[hybrid rapids]

someone complaining you

to me

👀

[steep iris]

wat i do

[hybrid rapids]

Hint

UwU

[steep iris]

my cohealer?

oof

[hybrid rapids]

you're both my friend

so i'm not helping either

:P

not your co healer

but the group you subbed to

[steep iris]

oh

i mean I did say i was a trap

[hybrid rapids]

I told him you're AST main

He keep saying you don't know the basic of healer

and Opener with cure II

[steep iris]

🤔

[paper torrent]

Compare parses

[steep iris]

the only reason why i cure 2

[paper torrent]

Only way to settle the issue

[steep iris]

is cause tank sometimes randomly dies to downburst+spiney if I don't c2

[paper torrent]

☕

[hybrid rapids]

sometimes parse doesn't tell all

so it's better to ask

202 cure II in 16 pulls

i see

tank not using CD? or no apoc?

[steep iris]

I have to babysit the tank during some points

[pure yoke]

hey Tsun

[hybrid rapids]

hi mug o/

[steep iris]

cause sometimes that guy also forgot excog

[pure yoke]

does Japanese with a viet accent sound weird?

to JP players?

[wheat garnet]

Thanks for your help Frey !

[hybrid rapids]

that guy had some issue

he's disability irl

so pls bear with him lol

[pure yoke]

same

[steep iris]

yea ik

[hybrid rapids]

@pure yoke i never heard JP with viet accent

[pure yoke]

yet

[hybrid rapids]

are you trying?

[pure yoke]

one day

[hybrid rapids]

ohhh

[pure yoke]

weird enough

English is my first and only langauge

but I got a thick viet accent

[steep iris]

my regen uptime isn't good also and I know that

cause asp b is fuckin expensive

[pure yoke]

WHM regen is essentially free

MP wise

[hybrid rapids]

no worries, I'm not blaming either lol

[steep iris]

I used to be better at regen uptime

[hybrid rapids]

also, the whole group only he's blaming

so it's fine

the others had no issue on you

[steep iris]

i mean they carried me to titan basically

I fucked up so many mechs

[hybrid rapids]

the healer just mad a bit because he isn't seeing titan

try to join as AST next time !

you can do better

[pure yoke]

but remember

[steep iris]

I already switched from ast to whm for ult :(

[pure yoke]

every regen cast is not a stone cast

[hybrid rapids]

rip

regen cast is good to weave :P

[pure yoke]

yeah

but regening just for uptime can sometimes be like

a waste?

[steep iris]

if he's also complaining about my dps

[sour solstice]

I used to regen at the start of head on

[steep iris]

I literally have to stop dpsing

[sour solstice]

thats pretty

[pure yoke]

are you atleast maintaining divine benis?

[hybrid rapids]

ye, he said you overhealed too much

[pure yoke]

doing it off cd

[steep iris]

cause garuda dies to quickly for raidbuffs

[pure yoke]

since Divine Beni is insanely efficient

Divine Benison is essentially like

almost 10k free healing every 30 seconds

[hybrid rapids]

like close to 90% overheal on 2nd cure III

75% 3rd cure III

80% 4th cure III

1st and 5th is good

[steep iris]

my sch never indoms there so i just cure 3 away

[hybrid rapids]

try to adjust a bit and you're good !

try to ask him indom

[steep iris]

she uses indom for big raidwide before first cleanse

not sure if it's up by then

[pure yoke]

I got a question

are you doing an aoe heal while her indom is off cd?

[steep iris]

assize

asylum>medica 2 for first cleanse

[pure yoke]

ideally Indom should be first to be used

unless it's on cooldown

oh garuda

nevermind

[hybrid rapids]

i think that's what they did, Succor > indom > deploy off Succor

[pure yoke]

also

I don't think most WHM uses assize for garuda aoe thing

seems like they use it for add dps

[hybrid rapids]

DEEPS

[pure yoke]

I mean

it's just efficient

adds have to die

[hybrid rapids]

fun fact, SMN and BLM can solo adds

any extra AOEs are padding :P

[pure yoke]

I just shoot an ogcd

[sour solstice]

can you hit all 3 with Nastrond?

[hybrid rapids]

3?

there are 5 adds + garuda

[sour solstice]

oh

Been a while since i've watched

only remember seeing 2

[pure yoke]

you get like

1 gsk and 1 nastrond

on the adds

for the 2nd set

you get no nastrond on first set

[sour solstice]

do you still hit the boss?

[pure yoke]

you cleave the boss with gsk

on the first set

after my 2nd 5th combo

I do GSK -> Doom Spike -> Dragonfire Dive -> Sonic Thrust

then I heavy thrust and impulse drive the spiny

then when the boss comes back I disembowel it

[heavy mist]

@pure yoke do u keep autos on spiny or garuda

[pure yoke]

garuda until heavy thrust

[heavy mist]

Aight

Noticed recently that autos matter a decent amount...

[blissful solstice]

uh

yeah

[steep iris]

oof

after calming down

yeah i suck

I'll work towards using regens more

and try not to overheal over my cohealer i guess

I'm not gonna lie I was actually pretty mad

but objectively speaking he's right

no excuses for me

I kinda wish he told me up front though

[paper torrent]

It's easy to take that stuff personally, understandable

[scenic patrol]

need to get tome capped and get the HoH SCH weapon and I am raid ready

[unreal flax]

it is done

mount acquired