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paper torrent
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also trust my boi

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Wynne, to correct my scrub thinking

sharp spruce
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also inbetween getting my bis according to this guide, would it be worth it to eureka for placeholders or just wait it out a bit

paper torrent
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eureka is as worth as you make it

sharp spruce
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alrighty

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I think I'll just keep eureka to alt gearing then

boreal edge
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@sharp spruce your ilvl?

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im brd main

sharp spruce
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352 on brd

paper torrent
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i was casually skimming brd discussion and they're still saying

boreal edge
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crit num?

paper torrent
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!item Kujakuo

storm frostBOT
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**Kujakuo** **:** Archer's Arm **:** ilvl 360
Damage

102

Magic Damage

69

Auto Attack

103.36

Dexterity

330

Vitality

358

Direct Hit Rate

298

Critical Hit

209

Materia Meldable

Yes

sharp spruce
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1673

paper torrent
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Shit look at that crit

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nvm yeah get that shit

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eureka is fucking blows

sharp spruce
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oh hmm

boreal edge
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1600 is so low

paper torrent
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!item failnaught anemos

storm frostBOT
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**Failnaught Anemos** **:** Archer's Arm **:** ilvl 355

Eureka gear.

Damage

101

Magic Damage

69

Auto Attack

102.34

Dexterity

323

Vitality

348

Direct Hit Rate

204

Determination

292

Materia Meldable

Yes

sharp spruce
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yeah I need to get rid of this byakko bow then

paper torrent
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also we all know byakko bow is shit

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oh

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OOF.

sharp spruce
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I mean I posted my current gear awhile back

boreal edge
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@paper torrent since he/she kill o6s might as well get i360 bow

paper torrent
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Diamond bow is comfy as hell tho

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oh yeah i was like

sharp spruce
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!whoequip @sharp spruce

storm frostBOT
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Equipment for seikaki ranazan of Coeurl [item level 352]
Archer's Arm

Byakko's Lutebow

Head

Carborundum Helm of
Aiming

Body

Augmented Lost Allag
an Jacket of Aiming

Hands

Carborundum Gauntlet
s of Aiming

Waist

Carborundum Tassets
of Aiming

Legs

Augmented Lost Allag
an Breeches of Aiming

Feet

Diamond Boots of Aim
ing

Earrings

Ryumyaku Earring of
Aiming

Necklace

Black Willow Necklac
e of Aiming

Bracelets

Carborundum Bracelet
of Aiming

Ring

Silvergrace Ring of
Aiming

Ring

Ryumyaku Ring of Aim
ing

Soul Crystal

Soul of the Bard

paper torrent
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"brd 360 actually has crit, lmao

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nvm get that hsit

sharp spruce
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I was gonna save my mend for a body piece but yeah ill get the bow then

boreal edge
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no

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no no

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never get that trash

paper torrent
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we're talking about tome top right

sharp spruce
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k

paper torrent
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'cause isn't crafted better

sharp spruce
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I mean either way

paper torrent
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!item True Linen Jacket of aiming

storm frostBOT
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**True Linen Jacket of Aiming** **:** Body **:** ilvl 350
Defense

539

Magic Defense

539

Dexterity

264 (293 hq)

Vitality

282 (314 hq)

Critical Hit

239 (265 hq)

Determination

167 (186 hq)

Materia Meldable

Yes

pure yoke
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I wish I have crafted gear

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I have Diamond Gun/Bow

paper torrent
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delicious

pure yoke
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but Ala Mhigan armor

sharp spruce
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I actually will have to wait for my bow upgrade

boreal edge
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get i350 eureka

sharp spruce
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because I will not have enough mend for this and next cap

boreal edge
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and pentameld it with crit

sharp spruce
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ehgh okay

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I really hate eureka

boreal edge
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@sharp spruce til you kill o8s

sharp spruce
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I will do it

boreal edge
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because all chests are trash til that chest

sharp spruce
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at least try I guess

boreal edge
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maybe 4.3 chest could have crit

sharp spruce
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would it be worth to use the crafted chest or see what 4.3 will offer?

boreal edge
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ridorana

sharp spruce
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I can wait for diamond or something else though

boreal edge
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also i didnt look in your parse

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1 moment

sharp spruce
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it's pretty bad

boreal edge
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but with 1670 crit i cant say much

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as you will be losing 25% of actual procs

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even without crit comp

sharp spruce
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yeah I am defintiely starving for crits

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I will optimize my gear though

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admittedly cuz.

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I asked to join a static when they wanted a brd

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and my brd was only 67 at the time

boreal edge
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ah

sharp spruce
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so I took 2 days to throw together a trainwreck of a brd for raiding

boreal edge
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you could get some crafted

sharp spruce
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im poor

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and bad with gil

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but I intend on doing that

boreal edge
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princess moogle chan?

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your char?

sharp spruce
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yes

boreal edge
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i see seikaki linked in discord

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๐Ÿค”

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now idk which one

sharp spruce
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I uh. paid for a name change like 2 days ago

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so I don't know if the bot updated it correctly

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cuz that was my old name

boreal edge
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1st thing i noticed

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you are not keep gcds going

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basically losing 3.5 gcd casts every min

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thats 35 gcds not used in 10 mins fight

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need to not let dots fall

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but 94% is still decent for 1st timer as brd

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you are missing 11 uses of empyreal arrow

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thats in o6s

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should be 40 uses in 10 mins

sharp spruce
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as a quick question, should I always use empyreal as soon as it's up or try to have a song playing before doing so?

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because I alweays try to abuse the additional effect of empyreal

boreal edge
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spent 1 min of fight with no song

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@sharp spruce used as soon its up yes

sharp spruce
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ok

boreal edge
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its 14 secs cd

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so must not be delayed

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to not lose an entire usage

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also full min of no straight shot

torn kindle
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part of that was the downtime i think

boreal edge
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there is no downtime in o6s

torn kindle
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oh i was thinking of the o7s log earlier

boreal edge
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also

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why the sch not using chain stragem

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wow

sharp spruce
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looking through all of our parses?

boreal edge
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yes

sharp spruce
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Our off healer I guess is apparently weird, but nvm that

torn kindle
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you don't want to see the o7s log linked earlier.
The ast only used draw 3 times in a 12-minute encounter

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and two sleeve draws

paper torrent
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I'm not saying he's the reason they hit enrage

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I'm just saying numbers are hard man

steep iris
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double ast in o8s ๐Ÿ‘€

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2 earthly star+heartless archangel=no helios needed

boreal edge
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in both kills sch never used a single chain i was like wtf man

steep iris
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"not healer's job to do dps"

sharp spruce
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huh

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I'm not sure if my static is noticing that or is doing some plan I have no idea of though

boreal edge
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the only point of needing sch is for chain

sharp spruce
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hm

boreal edge
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if he isnt using that then no point of having sch

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it buff your crit for 15%

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for 15 secs

sharp spruce
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ye

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Well, anything else I need to improve on my brd?

boreal edge
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keep your gcds rolling always

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thats your biggest issue atm

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then keep straight shot, dots and songs always up

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depends if you want to

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which one are you of the 8

sharp spruce
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okay. I'd still say im optimizing my fights on my current clears (this is the first time I've ever doing a relevant raid tier) but I will definitely think about and work on your advice, hank. Thank you.

boreal edge
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ah cant help then

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i dont play smn

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np and gl

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also work on crit

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due your very low crit u did 13 PPs

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should be around 25-30

sharp spruce
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I will start pooling majority of my resources into brd now since I'll prob stick to that for raiding

torn kindle
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I got 99 percentile for Hashmal in Rabanastre as a WHM can I gloat with that.

sharp spruce
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no one will take my SAM anyways xd

boreal edge
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@wheat gate comparing my smn with yours

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you have alot of extra uses of ruin 2

torn kindle
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2 doesn't have a cast time

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that means its better

boreal edge
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@torn kindle no

torn kindle
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you get to do book smacks

boreal edge
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ruin 3 is 30 more potency?

torn kindle
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guess I did my joke too subtly ;-;

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*smacks self with book*

boreal edge
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need books boomerang

torn kindle
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You can make pew sounds with Ruin II

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Ruin III doesn't fit the theme of a "pew" sound

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gotta exercise while casting

paper torrent
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Gotta flex that ruin 2 muscles

boreal edge
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addle

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for that extra wave

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dont do it in o8s

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or healers will curse ya

torn kindle
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maybe you got too much sps?

zinc vortex
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2.42? Baby numbers.

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Try playing SMN with 2.28 pepocheer

paper torrent
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Oh god

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Wht

zinc vortex
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Yes blobcoy

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Its great

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Fantastic

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Its really not

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Send help

paper torrent
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When omni tanks complain about incosistent meld priorities

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When casters who play BLM have it way worse

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Well i mean to be fair tanks do have pentameld bullshit

wet stag
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Just fucking get every caster item

zinc vortex
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lmao do you know who youre talking to

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the man the myth the legend

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alex '11 weeks no loot' ba'kal

wet stag
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Harassment is not a game.

paper torrent
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Yea it is

zinc vortex
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that too

paper torrent
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It's called cs go

zinc vortex
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ill get all casting items in approximately

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Uh

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around 4.4

boreal edge
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i thought its week 12?

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now

zinc vortex
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Shut up pepehands

steep iris
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what week is it now

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cause i still have like 5 non-370 items

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head, feet, and 3 accs

scenic patrol
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12?

sonic mesa
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Had a few questions about Sigma Savage if anyone wouldnt mind answering them

spice comet
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๐Ÿ‘€ go for it

sonic mesa
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If you get loot from v1 savage, can you still get loot from v2 etc ?

sour solstice
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yes

sonic mesa
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Alright awesome. And if you do 2 before 1, you cant loot 1 correct ?

spice comet
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For savage, yea

sonic mesa
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Okay thanks (: For a someone new to savage etc, better to use Party finder or Duty Finder ?

spice comet
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Primal, aether pf

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Jp servers r the only ones who use raid finder

sonic mesa
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Alright thanks so much

solar bane
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qhy dont summoners get miasma 2

sour solstice
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Isn't that a scholar skill?

solar bane
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surely it would be better on SMN

sour solstice
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!action miasma II

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**Miasma II** : lvl 46 Scholar (2.5 second cooldown)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 100 to all nearby enemies.
Additional Effect: Unaspected damage over time
Potency: 25
Duration: 12s

spice comet
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I think they....used to

dull radish
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it used to be for both

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then it got taken away with how strong SMN AoE got, even with Bane nerf

spice comet
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Yea but they gave smn bahamut

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No more miasma 2

dull radish
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but then SCH got shafted because they didn't get anything to make up for it

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so they got miasma 2 back to make up for it

sour solstice
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I mean Miasma 2 <Bahamut

spice comet
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Smn dots got stage 2

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For miasma and bio too

sonic mesa
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Oh last question. If you dont get a drop in say savage 1, you've lucked out and cant roll again that week right ?

dull radish
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correct

sonic mesa
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Thanks o/

pure yoke
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@dull radish grats on getting mentor title in The Balance

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unless that is old news

dull radish
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thanks <3 yeah it happened today (well message late last night, responded this morning haha)

paper torrent
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Now you can get spam pinged in the balance and this discord kreygasm

dull radish
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something like that

hybrid rapids
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rika is always helpful

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gratsss

pure yoke
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ur always helpful

unique wigeon
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when will the new raid tier come out?

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4.4?

steady pebble
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yes

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new raid tiers are always in the even patches

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odd patches are "catch up" and bring the 24 mans

paper torrent
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and then 4.35 is when new eureka comes our

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Aka SE just snorts shittons of coke and makes content

spice comet
stable basin
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I need to get strider boots and meet Amarok still

torn kindle
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I'm only missing the fugly scorpion vest from Eureka now

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gotten the Mithra minion 4 times from Serket and 3 times from the lockboxes

steady pebble
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you can have one of my four, wynne

torn kindle
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does it dye or nah? because I may use it for slutmog if so

steady pebble
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nah

torn kindle
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f

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nvm you can keep it

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non-dyeable glamour items = ๐Ÿคข

steady pebble
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i would feel that way more if we had more dyes

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So i'm ok with a lot of non-dyeable gear

scenic patrol
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The FFXI glamour from Eureka was quite disappointing

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Tbh

torn kindle
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it sucks if the item's color is between two dyes

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so it can never fully match

steady pebble
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if we had gw2's dye amount and dystem

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fuck man that'd be so amazing

scenic patrol
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Yes, fuck you

steady pebble
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no ty

scenic patrol
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Too bad

wet stag
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Man johni

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You might actually clear godka before me

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I've been choking really hard

scenic patrol
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Lol

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I'll probably finish prog until Sunday of this reset

wet stag
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All the best

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I'm gonna join trap parties on thursday

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And pray

scenic patrol
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Need to do some dummy practice this morning so I will not go out of shape

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Don't play FFXIV outside of raid times

wet stag
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Lmao

scenic patrol
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GoW too good

wet stag
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Nice

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I'm unlikely to get it tho

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No games really interest me rn

scenic patrol
wet stag
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Persona 5 was good shit

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I fucking love it

scenic patrol
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I bought a PS4 like yesterday

wet stag
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Oh lol

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Took me 110 hours on hard

scenic patrol
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GoW convinced me to buy

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Gonna buy HZD next probably

wet stag
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Hzd?

scenic patrol
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Horizon Zero Dawn

wet stag
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Ah

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Yeah I'm not a fan of open world

scenic patrol
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I freaking love adventure games

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That and hack and Slash

wet stag
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I love rhythm games

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And some jrpgs

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I'm just waiting for the twewy remake

scenic patrol
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Next game I am excited about is Darksiders 3

pure yoke
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I got all the Yakuza games

wet stag
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I have ishin

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But I haven't played in ages lol

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Didn't finish it

unique wigeon
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i remember reading something about the next patch will only introduce right side upgrade for crafters, is that true?

wet stag
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That sounds wrong

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Don't believe anything not said in the pll

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That was probably speculation

steady pebble
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They've not said what gear, if any, is going to be introduced next patch for crafters/gathers

last geode
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@wet stag I got up to 1% enrage on o5s yesterday ๐Ÿ˜ญ

wet stag
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Nice

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Almost there

last geode
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DPS didnt LB on saintly beam cast

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PSTD

wet stag
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What dps were you doing?

last geode
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huh

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I was DRK

wet stag
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How much dps

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I mean

last geode
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hmm

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I didnt know because I was still getting used to mechs

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I didnt have my parser on

wet stag
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Ah

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Ok then

last geode
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trying not to die to knockback or cart ghost

wet stag
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Grit reprisal dm tbn

last geode
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๐Ÿ‘

thorn bear
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Arm and Hammer being phys is so lit

unique wigeon
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life hack: jump off the train when you see enrage and let your healer rez you right before the cast is over

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that way you respawn after the enrage and continue to do damage

woeful prawn
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sadly doesnt work like that. enrages if they fail to kill you are cast again

unique wigeon
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yeah ik

split falcon
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but what if 1% enrage and the time it took to cast enrage again was enough to kill the boss

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boom

paper torrent
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big brain optimization for PF bois

stable basin
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Yeah I always wondered what happens when you somehow survive hard enrage

heavy mist
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yeah its just repeats

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u can find the AST glitch i believe

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for o6s

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where the boss just keeps using enrage

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and the AST live forever

stable basin
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O1S in particular has low enough damage fireballs a WAR might be able to soon if not already

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They're only about 105K I think

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Actually you can see that without glitch

heavy mist
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here u go

stable basin
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Be a healer and fuck up the nails on Ifrit Ex

heavy mist
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its hilarious

stable basin
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You can hold out the duty timer on that one I think

woeful prawn
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i had that happen week 1. the scholar spent 48 minutes dpsing the boss down from 28%

vital cypress
paper torrent
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god scholar

woeful prawn
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did you know the farm animals run off screen ?

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the pig, kappa and toad are being chased by mammets

steep iris
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german rp

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๐Ÿ‘€

austere flame
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Hey i'm sure this has been asked before, but i cant find anything on google

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is the Anemos 350 gear preferrable to the 360 gear?

lusty oak
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nah, 360 has more mainstat

dull radish
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there are niche situations where they're comparable and in one or two cases potentially marginally better. But majority of times, definite upgrade to go with 360

austere flame
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was wondering about those 5materias

dull radish
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Yeah even with the extra materia, in almost all pieces it's pretty clear-cut upgrade to go with 360

zinc vortex
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main stats are so strong in this game they generally outweigh most substat combinations you can get

austere flame
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yeah i was guessing that was the case

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i did once get outdps by another DRG who just had the crafted and overmelded gear, back in HW , that's why i was curious

zinc vortex
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probably just a better player pepothink

dull radish
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most cases it's just, rotational optimization

brave maple
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Exceptions I can think of is that for MCH right now Anemos = 360 gun

austere flame
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who do i call when the bullyhunter bullies me otzWOKE

zinc vortex
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you can call the mods

brave maple
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because Skill Speed is such a dead stat for MCHs (even more if you're using the High Ping Rotation)

zinc vortex
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but at your own discretion

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๐Ÿ˜Œ

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i'm not responsible for any bullying

austere flame
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im maining RDM , SS is also a dead stat there

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it actually fucks you over quite a bit

dull radish
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spellspeed is far from a dead stat for RDM

brave maple
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^^

dull radish
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the other secondaries are better, sure

brave maple
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It's just the "less good" one XD

dull radish
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but you still gain value from spellspeed

austere flame
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it does grant you some value, but i find that it makes me go dry much quicker

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it's not a problem if you dont die once

dull radish
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with lucid, it should be non-issue

brave maple
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^^

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Keep Lucid on CD

austere flame
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but if you do and have lucid on CD you're dead weight until it comes back up

brave maple
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XD

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Ask the Bard/MCH for refresh

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You're not dead weight

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MCH is dead weight if they die

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RDM notsomuch

dull radish
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but yeah like

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if you're gonna have mana issues from dying

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it's from dying, not from ss

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you'd be in a bad situation either way

brave maple
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Don't plan on dying XD

dull radish
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mmhmm

brave maple
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Weakness is gonna fuck you over more than anything

austere flame
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i mean eventually you will need to use lucid, SS makes that time come much quicker

brave maple
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!action Lucid Dreaming

storm frostBOT
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**Lucid Dreaming** : lvl 24 None (120 second cooldown)

Reduces enmity by half.
Additional Effect: Refresh
Refresh Potency: 80
Duration: 21s

brave maple
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2 min CD

dull radish
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lucid keeps you up even with meme speeds

brave maple
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are you gonna burn all your MP in 2 mins?

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No?

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Pop Lucid

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keep it on CD

zinc vortex
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2.2k SS red mage and summoner is something else

brave maple
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be happy ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zinc vortex
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very fun though

dull radish
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mmhmm

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zoooommmm

brave maple
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Speedyboi memes!

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meanwhile Sks on High Ping MCH OH GOD THE CLIPPING

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(the 350 Crafted Belt is legit BiS for a High Ping MCH)

zinc vortex
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a 2.2s GCD on SMN is pretty dicey too

austere flame
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i read something about SAM having specific SKS requirements

zinc vortex
austere flame
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like in tiers

brave maple
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well thats most jobs tbh

dull radish
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all stats are in tiers, most easy to tell is sks/sps

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but yeah, SAM has different builds around different sks tiers

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same with BLM

brave maple
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Anytime you have a "fit X GCDs in Y Window" you're gonna have builds to certain Sks thresholds

austere flame
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yeah that's what i meant, you reach treshholds and any inbetween SKS is basically wasted

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i got it to 70 pretty recently though, dont know too much about it

dull radish
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mmm lemme find a link

austere flame
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oh that's pretty neat

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bookmarking it, ty

dull radish
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mmhmm <3

unreal flax
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Wait. Damage mitigation goes down with more tenacity? Or is that damage percentage received?

supple sail
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More tenacity = damage is mitigated more.

unreal flax
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I mean, I understand how it's supposed to work, but looking at this spreadsheet here, the damage mitigation column has a decreasing number

supple sail
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Yeah is poor choice of terminology

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But it makes sense

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it's referring to the tenacity mitigation modifier

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the number in that column is what you multiply by.

unreal flax
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ok

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Lol you can never stack enough Tenacity to make it really useful.

azure hill
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Sure it isn't an inverted scale?

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Oh, I was scrolled up

shell carbon
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How important is double weaving for a mnk? My ping doesn't allow that

woeful prawn
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you only double weave under riddle of fire. and if you cant you just single weave

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monk is not hurt by bad ping for the most part

tiny kraken
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How bad would it hurt my other caster jobs if i share gear focusing on SpS as a BLM? owo

dull radish
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It's ok, but you should consider not going full-speed on BLM anyways, it's still pretty cozy, you can stack more crit, and it's a bit nicer when you wanna play the other casters

unreal lance
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owo

dull radish
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Can also mix and match some ss pieces vs non-ss pieces to make it a bit better on them

thorn bear
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I just looked up a dps on FFLogs and their best logs are all 2.5k dps on phantom train

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should I be worried

paper torrent
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Yes

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I cleared o5s with 2.8k

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As a WAR

dull radish
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It's spookier when that's their numbers with no deaths or anything

paper torrent
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MonkaS

thorn bear
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omfg

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he never died once

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on a 2.6k dps run

dull radish
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Probably like one of those melee I occasionally encounter in pugs. Just randomly disengaging and roaming around aimlessly at the first hint of a mechanic that is even near them

tiny kraken
#

thankies for the tip.. I'll try to put SpS on accessories and Crit/DH on main gear then, would that work? o/

dull radish
#

mmm maybe haha, depends on what spellspeed you want/feel comfortable with, and what gear you're using in general

grizzled seal
#

you should aim for like 50% on fllogs, that means you pull your wheight

spice comet
#

2.6k dont worry its consider high on healer ๐Ÿ’ฆ

light flame
#

Hi! As an ast, what stats should I prioritize/ melds should I use?

stable basin
#

I believe most are going for Crit now.

light flame
#

So only crit right? No others?

stable basin
#

Crit, if not Direct hit, and Dex.

steady pebble
#

healer secondaries are for the mostly up to personal preference

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generally don't want to stack piety tho except like at the start of a raid tier since it gives you more breathing room

stable basin
#

I also used piety since AST is MP starved. Or atleast I am.

sour solstice
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Dex?

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hold teh fuck up

steady pebble
#

yeah. you want o increase your ranged attacks :^)

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pretty sure they mean det tho ๐Ÿ˜›

paper torrent
#

Have you seen my dex fucking whm

stable basin
#

Yes that.

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Words are hard.

sour solstice
#

dude

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STR RDM

paper torrent
#

Fucking destroys pussy

sour solstice
#

thats some good shit

paper torrent
#

My stone 4 hits for like 1k

steady pebble
#

but yeah, healer melds are more of what do you feel you need/prefer how ot play

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if you feel you need more mana, then meld piety

sour solstice
#

If you like hitting the boss meld Crit or DH

steady pebble
#

if you want to hit those super sexy crits, go crit

paper torrent
#

I would say meld crit only

sour solstice
#

Crit also effects your heals so its probably better

paper torrent
#

dh is for speedrun memes

light flame
#

Ok, crit it is then.

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Thanks!

paper torrent
#

Piety works too

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Especially when progging

sour solstice
#

I think I have all crit/det

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and 1 SPS because im a memelord

paper torrent
#

Det is the better balance stat

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If you don't wanna meld crit and piety anymore

sour solstice
#

Or be a true memer

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and meld VIT

stable basin
#

lol

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I was thinking just that.

sour solstice
#

Shame we dont have flame resist anymore

steady pebble
#

well vit's not that bad to meld if you're looking to step into savage

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and don't have that great of gear yet

stable basin
#

For some reason I hoarded ice and earth materia.

paper torrent
#

Meh. This late in the tier you shoul enter with a lot more than 340

thorn bear
#

tfw I didn't start till later into the tier and could only play every other week

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so I'm currently ilvl 353 war

paper torrent
#

that's more than fine

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i cleared with 345

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like, week 4?

thorn bear
#

as long as you know the fight shits alright

paper torrent
#

that TB tho

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holy fucking tits

#

MonkaS

scenic patrol
#

Got a new personal best on O6S

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!whologs @scenic patrol

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (1862/11639) [4077.83 DPS] [84.8 Historical] [7:50]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (2082/10963) [4525.33 DPS] [81.9 Historical] [9:04]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1272/7955) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [11:27]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1377/5988) [4075.1 DPS] [78.1 Historical] [6:41]

dull radish
#

Congrats

scenic patrol
#

If I was BiS it would have been Orange

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Which is a shame

#

But oh well

#

Improvements

sterile geyser
#

i need to make it a point to join parsing runs more often after i get my weekly clears

#

my parses look so bad mostly

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lol

dull radish
#

"parsing runs" often don't end up being all that good

#

best O5S group you can get for parses is actually a really bad group that can barely scrape by, and you have to carry them by hitting the adds more so they don't enrage

unreal flax
#

What's the current optimal WAR opener?

paper torrent
#

this is the best generic opener

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the naked cleave is to prevent overcapping during IR

lucid karma
#

also you don't have to double weave upheaval with onslaught

unreal flax
#

I was thinking about that

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I'm sitting here looking at those two things like, "YUCK"

wet stag
#

Sure that works, but personally I prefer toma, equi, infuriate, heavy, deliverance

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Rather than the one in the opener

paper torrent
#

you can do that as well

wet stag
#

That way you don't need the 2nd onslaught

paper torrent
#

i just like the 2nd onslaught, it fucks up in some places tho like o6s

#

i like saving onslaught there

wet stag
#

Since infuriate comes up just after the heavy swing just before path

lucid karma
#

I mean if you gonna open with unchained you might as well make use off it before going into deliv

paper torrent
#

youc an shift the delieverance as you like

wet stag
#

But muh 5% damage

paper torrent
#

you can also change out the second onslaugh with FC if you have a faster gcd like me

lucid karma
#

second onslaught is there because dps gain over FC

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dps gain per gauge

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also hey enmity

paper torrent
#

emmity from second onslaught is also useful

sterile geyser
#

what do SCHs meld after crit? det or dh? also, is piety as worthless for healers as tenacity is for tanks?

sour solstice
#

Det

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and yes

unreal flax
#

I've been in Eureka just banging on buttons and I've been doing this: http://ffxivrotations.com/1jg8 lol Apparently, this is a "I want to be MT" opener lol

lucid karma
#

piety is borderline useful only on AST

sterile geyser
#

mkay. trying to fix up my wife's sch materia; just finished outfitting it in all anemos stuff

stable basin
#

GG Brit.

paper torrent
#

is that

#

the legendary

#

OT opener

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god bless

lucid karma
#

OT

#

but without infuri at first gcd

#

smh

paper torrent
#

WHERE THE INFURATE AT THOOOO

#

CD REDUCTION HOOMIE

#

so much seconds you could've shaved offff

unreal flax
#

Yeah, that's the worst part. I didn't know when to use it! I was just making sure to get five cleaves in the IR lmao

lucid karma
#

think about this

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you infu very early, into IR

paper torrent
#

mostly WAR optimization comes from gauge and making sure you get SP* combos as much as you can without losing buff

lucid karma
#

x5 fell cleave = 25 sec CD reduction on infuri

unreal flax
#

Makes sense

paper torrent
#

generally you also wanna generate as much threat in raids for opener

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without losing DPS

#

NIN is super useful for WAR for that reason

#

they make you very comfty

lucid karma
#

oh shit what's that? shadewalker? time to never use BB combo ev- oh wait I don't anyway

#

competent NIN is godsent for tank because they'll make tank forget about enmity

paper torrent
#

alsoo shirk

#

๐Ÿ˜„

lucid karma
#

ew gay shit

#

but real talk shirk is super good

sterile geyser
#

there is simply not enough good NINs and DRGs around from what ive seen

lucid karma
#

I don't even demand good DPS, just need someone who can manage aggro on their own

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it makes my job as tank much easier

unreal flax
#

I love Pre-pull Diversion. I can do half my opener and if someone else breathes at the boss, they become the tank lol

fast bridge
#

its really nice when ppl can manage aggro. but most dps live the life of "Lol whats aggro?"

stable basin
#

Yeah so often when I go was DPS in PUGs I'm like the only one who uses Diversion

#

hmm

#

how do you add a FC to fflogs that isn't already in it?

#

does it automatically find it on lodestone if you just feed it the fc name and server or is there some special lodestone stuff you have to do like when you register your character?

grizzled seal
#

it pulls it from you character iirc

heavy mist
#

wee o8s mount actually plays good music

cursive carbon
#

Would love to hear it if I could ever win the roll

#

10 weeks and counting

dull radish
#

ouch

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it's such a good mount, too

#

so silly

cursive carbon
#

Haven't even won a coffer either

#

Had to wait for axe to drop flat out

stable basin
#

@grizzled seal actually not quite

#

like if you switch fc

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you have to actually update the fc, not your character, or it never changes it correctly

#

which means the fc entry has to be created first

vital bolt
#

What's the most recent Red Mage opener? Getting a lot of mixed results that are showing theorycraft ones from SB's launch

maiden iris
#

Isn't it Accel > Thunder > Aero > backflip > Fire > Aero > Swiftcast, Corps-a-Corps > Thunder > Fleche, Contre Sixte > Stone > Aero > Stone > Thunder > Manafication > Riposte > Embolden > Zwerchau > Redoublement > backflip > Flare > Corps-a-Corps?

blazing pelican
#

That's a really selfish opener

maiden iris
#

So it's a Pug opener ๐Ÿ˜›

#

For a more general opener, I guess you'd put it aftet the CaC Thunder?

#

And pus the CS to after the following Aero

#

Push*

last geode
#

question

#

if I complete a savage raid for the week and I join another group who hasnt cleared

#

does the group still get the chest?

paper torrent
#

they only get 1 chest

#

1-3 who have cleared is one chest

#

4 and above is 0 chests

#

hence, page run only

last geode
#

ohh ok

paper torrent
#

you also don't get loot again

last geode
#

3 chests for those who havent cleared yet?

paper torrent
last geode
#

I just cleared o5s today

#

everyone died except me and heal at 1%

#

top kek

paper torrent
#

nice

#

yeah that sounds like a learning run

last geode
#

well it was our first clear

hybrid rapids
#

Isnโ€™t it

#

1~4 cleared = 1 chest
5 and above = 0 chest

paper torrent
#

i thought it was 4 and above 0 chest

#

oh no wiat you're right

#

i'm high, it's half of party clear = 1 chesst

#

more than half = 0 chest

hybrid rapids
#

Or it changed during 4.2?

paper torrent
#

no you're right

#

i'm retarded

heavy mist
#

u right tsun

paper torrent
#

I just remebered it wrong

last geode
#

are deltascape books still usable or trash now?

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and deltascape parts

lucid karma
#

unless you want glamour, they're outdated now

last geode
#

ahh ok

#

so throw away?

lucid karma
#

yes if you don't want glam

#

wait

#

what book tho

#

forgot to ask

#

if delta book 2 and 3 you can trade them for creation gear augment

#

deltascape parts however are safe to dispose

last geode
#

delta book 1 lol

steady pebble
#

could always buy the gear to use for gc seals

last geode
#

i have 3

#

that I never used

lucid karma
#

hmm then just dispose em

last geode
#

datalog 1.0

lucid karma
#

since you need 4 book for an acc anyway

last geode
#

ahh ok

split falcon
#

delta books are still gud if you want to do ultimate

#

and don't want to drag yourself through eurek

#

a

scenic patrol
#

It's better to have down sync'd left side then 340 gear most of the time

#

It only matters in accessories

#

Especially for tanks

split falcon
#

it's still good for ultimate though

scenic patrol
#

Aye, but if you are going to do Ucob, you might as well assemble the new BiS for it

split falcon
#

i mean it won't matter that much either way

#

ucob doesn't really have a tough dps check, it's the mechanics more than anything

scenic patrol
#

Extra VIT

unique wigeon
#

the struggle

steep iris
#

neferpitou ๐Ÿ‘€

stable basin
#

Riiiip

scenic patrol
high ether
#

nya

topaz wolf
#

:3

unreal lance
#

Nyan nyan

paper torrent
#

NYANNNN

steep iris
#

s t o p

scenic patrol
stable basin
#

Delta 1 savage is still the fastest source of >330 accessories if you don't want to buy crafted

#

Everything else is weekly locked or will involve more Raba than is good for your mental well being

unreal flax
#

Yuck. Fuck that fight. Go spend some gil

paper torrent
#

Aite rote is a waste of time

#

Just do sigma normals instead

#

You're going to do that shit anyway

unreal flax
#

True

paper torrent
#

Plus you have to get the correct accessory in aite too

#

Sigmascape you roll against more people sure but you get 350 shit instead and at least consistenly have chances

dull radish
#

well, 4x O1S and you get any accessory you want, even if you don't get any drop, and you can do that as many times as you'd like

#

and even memes for farms still are fine for clearing

burnt axle
#

anyone on balmung can help me pentameld my acc?

untold furnace
#

does ilvl really have a big impact on dps for tanks ? I'm watching this stream of a DRK player, and at some point he was at 5k+ dps (must have been a burst phase since he's around 4k5 on average) on o8s, while I'm barely reaching 4k5 during burst phase and will actually have an average dps of 3k5 maybe

#

although he might have got several buffs at the same time for a big gurst since he is in a static and thezy must be coordinated

torn kindle
#

cooldown organization matters a ton

untold furnace
#

but jeez the difference tho

#

yeah I think that's what played a lot in that

#

yeah I've just seen it again and this is on pull, he's getting up to 5k5

torn kindle
#

Being able to do your big hits while buffs like Trick Attack, Battle Litany, Balance, Foes, Strategem, and others are up can really beefup your DPS.

untold furnace
#

and then going down to the average of 4k5

#

yeah well you don't really have any "big hit" as a DRK besides a couple things but still, I'm quite amazed at his average dps

torn kindle
#

Carve and Spit and Bloodspiller aren't big hits?

paper torrent
#

big hits as DRK are more so C and S

lucid karma
#

ilvl does matter, but synchronizing cooldown gives bigger impact every time

paper torrent
#

BS, and DA during these windows

untold furnace
#

I don't really know his experience in o8s but it seems quite hard (never tried it) and managing a 4k5 dps in that setting is quitei mpressive

paper torrent
#

this was godka?

#

or regular ka

untold furnace
#

I'm guessing godka ? He's got wings and the arena is golden, guess that's the difference ?

paper torrent
#

godka 95th is 4,1k

#

yeah

#

that's godka

#

99th is 4.6k

untold furnace
#

how does that work exactly ? are these 2 separate fights ?

paper torrent
#

yes

#

regular kefka is a fight

untold furnace
#

huh, interesting

lucid karma
#

it is separated fight

paper torrent
#

and then truns into godka after

untold furnace
#

I just thought it was a phase in the fight

paper torrent
#

if you wipe at godka you respawn at the start of godka till instance ends

lucid karma
#

after you beat kefka ass he turns into god kefka

#

then you intentionally wipe after that

#

to reset cooldown

untold furnace
#

and you can just get back directly at godka once you've cleared kefka ?

lucid karma
#

yes

paper torrent
#

not if you leave the instance

#

but if you're still in the instance then yes

untold furnace
#

oh okay

paper torrent
#

if you get kicked out you have to start over

#

although that's MonkaS levels of oh boy

untold furnace
#

nice to know, ty

paper torrent
#

yeah i assume he's BIS

untold furnace
#

I assume yeah

paper torrent
#

it's kinda hard to hit 95th without being BIS

#

3.5k on godka is slightly under 50th

lucid karma
#

keep in mind that good raid synchronizing can improve a lot of DPS too

untold furnace
#

and when I meant 4k5 it wasn't really at the end of the fight but more like mid fight so this is a bit exagerated

paper torrent
#

oh

lucid karma
#

so not only on the DRK himself, but also everyone else

paper torrent
#

that doesn't matter then

#

you have to guage it at the end of the fight

#

if he was about to clear and was at 4.5k i would be like oh yeah nbd

untold furnace
#

yeah yeah I know, but like now it's at 35% and he's at 4k2 so still good I guess :p

paper torrent
#

if you have the VOD fo the stream you can check to see what he had when he cleared

untold furnace
#

but yeah his party is really good indeed, they're getting really close to kill

#

VOD ?

lucid karma
#

video on demand

#

past streams

untold furnace
#

oh, yeah I'll probably forget to check so I'll just ask directly I think

#

BiS ilvl is what, 370 ?

lucid karma
#

for tank bis is i363

#

because right side pentameld

#

poorboye is i370

untold furnace
#

"poorboye" lol

lucid karma
#

I mean pentameld is already expensive

#

now try 5 times

untold furnace
#

yeah I rarely see a 5 pentameld

lucid karma
#

various factor

scenic patrol
#

You can look into my Lodestone to see how Warrior BiS looks like

#

I am only missing 2 pieces

untold furnace
#

yeah they just killed it and he managed a 4k15 dps so pretty good I guess

scenic patrol
#

Weapon and 1 weave

#

!whoami

storm frostBOT
untold furnace
#

thanks

#

mendacity gear instead of diamond because they're actually BiS or they're just the missing pieces ?

paper torrent
#

aug med becuase of substats

scenic patrol
#

BiS

#

The pieces that I have on me that are Mendacity are part of the BiS

#

Both versions of pants are BiS for Warrior

#

BTW

#

Just need to change melds depending on pants choice

#

Although I won't be getting pants for quite awhile

untold furnace
#

huh idk if it's just for DRK or if the aryiyala page is just out of date but seems like it's all diamond gear for me

scenic patrol
#

Chest piece should be Memedacity

#

For all tanks

untold furnace
#

oh yeah maybe I'm just misreading the thing

lucid karma
#

omnitank = mendacity pants
WAR only = diamond pants

#

IIRC

untold furnace
#

thought the last line was BiS but it's the green highlighted one then I guess

scenic patrol
#

Diamond pants are BiS for all tanks

#

In slowboye sets

untold furnace
#

still BiS for DRK fastboye

stable basin
#

Yeah Johni I'm not sure your character even has pants there :D

scenic patrol
#

You do realize that there's a Lodestone link as well in that bot response?

#

You can check my gear by clicking on my name

#

Also hotpants are justice

heavy frigate
#

YO ELTISTIST

#

COCKSUCKERS

steady pebble
#

erm

paper torrent
#

YOU KNOW ME

wet stag
#

YE BOI

unreal lance
#

Yes?

wet stag
#

Ya know me

#

I'm such an eltistist

opaque tide
#

How hard is god kefka in a full pug?

sour solstice
#

While I personally have never done it, previous reports I've seen indicate its similar in difficulty to playing Dark Souls with a Rock Band Drum Set

opaque tide
#

yeah I thought so

#

looks like I should get a static at some point then

hybrid rapids
#

the more you delay, the worse it could be

#

static could be worse than a PUG or better

opaque tide
#

true

#

I can maybe try pugging clown kefka to clear this week then

hybrid rapids
#

at least with current tier clear experience

#

find one on next tier

#

current tier try to clear on PUG or ask 1 or 0 chest

#

the important is clear this shit

#

so you can focus on optimizing later

opaque tide
#

yeah then I can maybe try its just when I cleared 7s in a pug we pugged like the whole day with the same group, so god kefka feels like it would only work in a pug if no one leaves and jsut sits like a whole saturday with the same group

#

because if people leave getting new people always adds more wipes in my experience

#

until they adjust

hybrid rapids
#

just grabs a couple of friends who have it on farm if you have any

#

then a few PUGs

#

it could smooth the progress a lot

#

compared to random PUG

#

unless you're feeling lucky today

opaque tide
#

I don't know alot of people with it on farm and the ones I do are in their own statics

hybrid rapids
#

network is important ๐Ÿ˜”

#

in-game or irl

#

basically you are starting from 0

#

it could be harsh but don't give up

#

and don't make it a chore

#

you have a whole 4.3 to complete it too

#

as long as its before 4.4

opaque tide
#

tbh and its a bit off topic but networking is something I have to work on in general

#

i'm terrible at it in game and irl

#

but you're right

#

I do need to try and meet more people

#

and run stuff with them

whole rampart
#

networking is super ez in ff too

#

๐Ÿค”

pure yoke
#

prove it

heavy mist
#

i wish networking was.

azure hill
#

Good statics are like good jobs

#

You might be able to find one through an advert

#

But the best ones come through friends/reputation

steep iris
#

you can pug prog god with different parties

#

i pugged prog from 1st forsaken till clear over a span of like 4 days

#

attempting 8s nonstop

blazing pelican
#

prog can be surprisingly easy depending on how ruthless you want to be

#

2nd forsaken prog, one person keeps fucking up on 1st? Boot them, grab a new person

steep iris
#

yea, the biggest problem with that is 2nd forsaken prog usually is 2nd graven prog ๐Ÿคฃ

#

usually most parties get like 1-2 pulls in where they actually hit that point

#

and 99% of the time they don't make it is cause of trine and wings of destruction

blazing pelican
#

I've started prog parties for shits and giggles, and I cull like a motherfucker if you can't do mechanics before the stated goal

steep iris
#

trine isn't that hard, idk how some people manage to get hit every pull

blazing pelican
#

_> I'm BiS and I still get clipped every now and then

steep iris
#

same, but im talking about EVERY pull

#

esp if you get hit twice on 2 different triangles in the same trine cast

#

reeeeeeee

heavy mist
#

Trine u just need to think and hope for nice pattern

#

๐Ÿ™

zinc vortex
#

i'm retarded so i can't do trine pepehands

#

do you hate me now, reddit ffxiv discord

heavy mist
#

when havent we

zinc vortex
#

๐Ÿ˜”

azure hill
#

Don't worry, we still love you @zinc vortex-daddy kannabear

zinc vortex
#

i physically inhaled through my nose and exhaled through my mouth

#

i hope you're proud of yourself

azure hill
#

Haha, I am actually blobcatwinktongue

#

jots down a mark on blackboard

spring dock
#

you are a truly putrid animal

boreal edge
#

you can just practice trine from 2nd to 1st or 3rd to 2nd

#

then you will be able to do every possible pattern

#

since u can still get that pattern

#

where 1st trines are blocked by single wing

last geode
#

@wet stag I just cleared o6s today

#

i dont know whether this one or alte rote is easier

#

just being honest

paper torrent
#

for sure aite rote

#

aite rote doesn't have an enrage

last geode
#

ahh well true

paper torrent
#

chad did

last geode
#

that's the only difference tho

paper torrent
#

yeah basically

last geode
#

really predictable

junior basin
#

Alte Roite actually did have an enrage. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

last geode
#

lol

paper torrent
#

not even pf shitters

#

hit enrage

#

for the most part

last geode
#

id say the fallling off made up for the easy

paper torrent
#

hence, there's no real "enrage"

last geode
#

it's still easy but you can fall off

junior basin
#

He does the fireball thing except there's no safespots and knockbacks.

last geode
#

I can't fall off on chad

paper torrent
#

yeah that's true i guess

#

chad as a fight is much more "straightfoward" looking

#

if nothing else

last geode
#

no RNG

#

no cart ghost like tank busters

#

ahh well

#

now for 07s

#

which im sure I can pass

#

since easier than o3s

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or so I heard anyway

paper torrent
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i would say o7s is only hard getting to past virus for most people

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some people just lose their fucking heaad

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or fuck up the swaps

last geode
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is it because of the length?

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of the fight

woeful prawn
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the length does contribute

dull radish
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hardest part of learning O7S is remembering dadaluma knockback final phase if it's biblio -> dadaluma

last geode
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just trying to compare to o3s

lucid karma
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Virus : appears
PUG nibbas : โ™ฟ

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every fucking time

last geode
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what's this dadaluma knockback

woeful prawn
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definetely easier than o3 honestly.

last geode
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hmm ok

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so guardian doesnt hit as hard yea?

lucid karma
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O3S was fun tho

last geode
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just the adds

woeful prawn
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its also more fair?

last geode
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I'm just wondering where to get my 355 weap honestly

woeful prawn
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it doesnt throw anything violently out of left field at you except the virus mechanic

last geode
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no groups doing byakko ex

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ahh ok

sterile geyser
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i never got a chance to do o3s, but i cant imagine it being worse than guardian as far as pugs losing their goddamn minds on how to play the game

last geode
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omg

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o3s was like

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weeks of cancer

woeful prawn
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and for virus you really only have 2 options as tank/heal and 1 option (always the same) for dps

lucid karma
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O3S has randomness

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and can catch people off guard

last geode
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screwing up one mechanic will put vuln stack on you

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that's pretty much a wipe there

lucid karma
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O7S is quite straightforward

last geode
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ahh ok

sterile geyser
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mostly the same on 7 though. depending on the phase, 1 death fucks the run

last geode
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so not so much RNG

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if no RNG then it's fine for me

sterile geyser
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if not wiping the party, then by dps loss

paper torrent
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the rng is more so which 2nd part of the fight you get

woeful prawn
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its the "rng" fight but its actually less rng than o3s phase 2

last geode
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which is virus?

paper torrent
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rather than anything inherently bullshit

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like pigs

lucid karma
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controlled RNG

last geode
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that's fine for me

lucid karma
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O3S is just random random

last geode
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I will know what to look out for

dull radish
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O3S wasn't really random random

last geode
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it has a lot of RNG tho

woeful prawn
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dude

sterile geyser
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yeah i dont get why virus is so hard

dull radish
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it had a lot of, you either get this or that

last geode
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it was keeping up with the timing though

woeful prawn
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my second clear of o3 was only possible thanks to waltz, waltz, blue tile, waltz

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or something ridiculously easy like that

last geode
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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no books?

woeful prawn
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no books no thorns

last geode
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for that last phase

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WHAT

lucid karma
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I got thorn and then waltz

last geode
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WHY COULDNT I GET THAT

lucid karma
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imagine the fuckery

last geode
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QQ

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it's basically do the opposite of the diabolical light mech

paper torrent
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because PF loses their heads

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just trying to press buttons

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god bless NA

woeful prawn
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you get books again for o7

last geode
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wut

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what kind of books

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falling down/

woeful prawn
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ink is pretty much books

last geode
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?

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so you have squares again in o7s yea?

woeful prawn
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but you can survive double ink with vit melds

lucid karma
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can confirm

woeful prawn
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no, its just dont overlap

sterile geyser
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but you shouldnt need to

lucid karma
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barely tho

dull radish
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Not squares persay, just splash damage around each party member

lucid karma
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47k hp can survive two inks

woeful prawn
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its like acid splash from a9s but on all 8 players

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and double the radius

last geode
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i never did alex tho

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only started savage in stormblood

lucid karma
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don't really remember A9S

woeful prawn
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its like unmarked levinbolts from o1s but double the radius

last geode
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ooh

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shoot

dull radish
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Radius for ink isn't very big

last geode
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that's gonna hurt

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welp