#endgame-lounge

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pure yoke
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I mean scroll up

primal oak
pure yoke
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my character has no hat

primal oak
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maybe lodestone caches portrait different from paperdoll

hybrid rapids
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ask eanae

primal oak
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and/or fflogs has a local cache

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and/or discord has a local cache of fflogs' local cache of lodestone

pure yoke
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I'm pretty sure I never taken off my hat

hybrid rapids
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i saw konv's avatar has it

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the head part

dull radish
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it's been ages since I've had a hat on hat I haven't hidden

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I don't lik ehats much

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also really need nwe glamour for main

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tome chest doesn't look very good

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but been lazy

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and dunno what to use

grizzled seal
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hats usually clip harder than ast 😔

pure yoke
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I'm thinking of going catgirl again

dull radish
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catgirl <3

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I love both my main and my alt

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pretty equally

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also need new glamour for alt too

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but main shoudl take priority as it's still unglamoured for a while haha

severe notch
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Cat girls are best

hybrid rapids
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i only like the /angry

severe notch
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Like one in rikas profile is adorable

hybrid rapids
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of miqo'te

dull radish
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my favorite fem miqote emote

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is /shocked

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looks so cute

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<3

severe notch
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It is

hybrid rapids
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but i like lala's /panic more

dull radish
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yeah <3

hybrid rapids
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if catgirl has lala's emote, i will go cat

dull radish
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thus why i have kitty main and lala alt

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best of both worlds

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don't like other races enough to have another alt up

true lark
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why not have raen, xaela, cat, and lala

hybrid rapids
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cat girl has good looking, but lala has good emote + being annoying

dull radish
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if I could like

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separate horns + faces

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au ra alt easy

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but nah

pure yoke
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I get tired of playing on one character

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I can't imagine playing 5 alts

dull radish
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I really kinda wish

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my group woudl do alt raid

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so I didn't have to pug on alt or fill in for random statics

hybrid rapids
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@true lark need advice, is it that bad doing war MT currently?

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was helping friend to progress god kefka yesterday

true lark
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huh?

hybrid rapids
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but we couldn't even go pass kefka because my war friend never being a MT in kefka

true lark
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WAR MT is great

hybrid rapids
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he keep telling me can't use IR in tank stance or what

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or is he just bad?

true lark
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you generally wanna swap hyperdrives and use an invuln on ultimate embrace > hyperdrive but it can hg like three ultimate embraces in the fight

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ye hes just bad

hybrid rapids
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his group is running DRK + WAR

dull radish
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why IR in tank stance when you can drop tank stance

pure yoke
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you don't have to be in tank stance

dull radish
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and IR

pure yoke
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while tanking

hybrid rapids
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so usually he do OT

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but in PUG, they demands WAR to go MT

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yea, i think he don't have enough experience in MT

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i didn't knew that he's so bad in MT

boreal edge
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maybe tonight we will see 2nd forsaken as static?

hybrid rapids
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i meant the recruitment was meant to do 2nd forsaken onward

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yet we can't go through kefka

boreal edge
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seen enrage in god kefka

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in pf

dull radish
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someday I'll pug 8 on my alt

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or I'll do week 8 on my alt and grab second coffer rotation on it

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that more likely

hybrid rapids
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some people in balance saying na/eu is pug-able

boreal edge
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i reached enrage in pf but dunno

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maybe i was ultra lucky

dull radish
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with soem filtering can probably do 8

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but I get lazy on alt

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so I'd rather get dragged into traps with friends or do with static

hybrid rapids
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in Japanese we called as "Plus and Minus = clear"

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means good and bad players can clear the fight

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kind of mix and match

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to help bad players to clear the fight

boreal edge
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past 2nd forsaken there is nothing hard

dull radish
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after 2nd forsaken is cozy

hybrid rapids
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idk 2nd forsaken is hard

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I meant a12s was harder

dull radish
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it's a bit annoying sometimes

hybrid rapids
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it's a bit similar to a12s

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of how DPS handling

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but this time tank and healer both have to do the job too

pure yoke
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I thought A12S was easier until 2nd puddles

hybrid rapids
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yeaa

dull radish
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please no communion puddles

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ever again

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I can slidecast 2nd forsaken

hybrid rapids
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hahah

dull radish
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I can't slidecast communion

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friggin 30k DoT back then

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nty

hybrid rapids
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communion was faster?

dull radish
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much faster

pure yoke
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Communion I don't think you can dily daly at all

dull radish
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also playing vermintide with bf, so slower responses

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yeah

hybrid rapids
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i know there's a server tick but i don't dare risk it

dull radish
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you had to go

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in 2nd forsaekn you can risk

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and it's ok

pure yoke
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I'm playing Ni No Kuni 2 atm

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on PC

hybrid rapids
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yea, communion is like much later part of the fight

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and if messed up = restart

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mug, how is it?

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recommended or not?

pure yoke
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only played like

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20 minutes of it

hybrid rapids
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lmao

pure yoke
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so can't really give an opinion

hybrid rapids
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alright

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give feedback later

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i didn't pre-order it

dull radish
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ni no kuni 2 seems pretty fun to me, might give it a try myself at some point

boreal edge
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@pure yoke 20 hours in

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story feels short tho

dull radish
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seems like I'd enjoy it more than first ni no kuni looked to me

boreal edge
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20 hours in and im 2 dungeons away from ending

hybrid rapids
dull radish
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seems like good place <3

boreal edge
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its way better than ni no kuni 1

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tbh

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so my best rpg on ps4 so far

untold furnace
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so to be sure of something about weekly savage kills

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if you do it once in a 2 chests party, you can still get one chest if you manage to kill it again with a 1 chest (or 2 chests) party right ?

dull radish
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no

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when you clear a floor for the week, you see whatever chests drop, and that's it

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even if you join a 1-chest party after, you don't even get to see what's in that chest, let alone roll on it

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and you can't join a 2-chest party since you've already cleared, so it cannot be 2-chest

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you would make it 1-chest

untold furnace
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oh okay, I thought you still had 1 more chance to loot

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that's even if you didn't win the roll on both chests right ?

dull radish
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correct

untold furnace
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okay, thanks

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rip me for this week then

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lost the 2 rolls, but I'm glad I could at least clear it

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those practice parties are a nightmare, some guys in a weekly kill party were nice enough to let me stay so I could finally kill it

cerulean pilot
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is it just me or is the drop rate for healer gear higher than normal

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all I've seen drop is healer gear

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at this point my healer is more geared than my main ffs

earnest perch
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I've seen no gear for healers and my main is healer wanna trade

steep iris
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Ive only seen like 3 pieces of healer gear from savage raids so far (weekly o5s and o6s)

thorn bear
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What is this "box strat" i keep seeing in pfs when I pass by o8s

dull radish
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it's for graven image 2 or whatever, with the stack + rock tethers

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put markers in a "box" shape, NW NE SW SE, and the pairs go there

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then after the stack resolves you move in predetermined direction from the stack, i.e. for SW marker you'd have one person in the pair go W from it, the other S

thorn bear
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makes sense

dull radish
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as opposed to line strat, which puts the pairs I believe in a line from N to S

hybrid rapids
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is it kefka?

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interesting

dull radish
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yeah

hybrid rapids
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NA PUG use that strat?

dull radish
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yeah box strat is pretty common

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think it's what is in xeno's guide, haven't actually watched it

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probably in other guides too haha

hybrid rapids
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it's my first time hearing it

dull radish
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but it's far and away the most standard for that graven image

hybrid rapids
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is it easier to execute?

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i meant since there's no uptime at all during that phase

dull radish
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it's consistent and requires no thinking

hybrid rapids
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the difficulty of handling it is my main concern

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ahh

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in JP, most PF uses unreal strategy

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and i did some owen as well

thorn bear
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unreal and owen

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nani

hybrid rapids
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Unreal vs Owen vs box strat

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yea, just follow your server's standardized strat

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line strat is kinda similar to unreal

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oh wait

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ohhhhhh

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unreal is literally modified from line strat

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owen is modified from box strat

dull radish
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we ended up doing kind of box strat

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but having people who had aoe marker move to center

hybrid rapids
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yea, i watched the video

dull radish
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and people with rock tether move to edge

hybrid rapids
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JP version is literally modified from NA

kindred bison
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I still wonder what the next (Ultimate) will be

hybrid rapids
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the "modified" part is

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we throw the gravity at same spot

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as first

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some says ARR

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some says HW

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ARR: ifrit + titan + garuda + ultimate weapon

kindred bison
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ARR: Primals Ultimate

hybrid rapids
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HW idk

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HW has a lot

thorn bear
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wasn't there some talk of like alexander ultimate?

kindred bison
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Aka all the ARR Primals

thorn bear
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or was that some made up shit

kindred bison
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It’s be neat

hybrid rapids
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unless they don't plan to do ultimate on 4.5

kindred bison
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Or make it (Ultimate)

hybrid rapids
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then might be alex ultimate

kindred bison
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Aka Ultima, but as each Primal falls out the OT has to take them

hybrid rapids
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at this point just speculation

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don't have any firm answer

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until yoshiP talks

kindred bison
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I gotta clear Sigmascape first for it anyways

hybrid rapids
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hmm

kindred bison
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Well, SigmaSavage

hybrid rapids
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you can do ultimate coils?

kindred bison
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Currently? No

hybrid rapids
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it's same

kindred bison
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Gotta clear O4S

hybrid rapids
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your ilvl get synced down

kindred bison
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Yep

hybrid rapids
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equipment from eureka

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oh...

kindred bison
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But 345 gear doesn’t have the V slots

hybrid rapids
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you don't have any raid experience?

kindred bison
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I’ve cleared O3S

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And am currently on O7S

hybrid rapids
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ultimate is a huge scale up

kindred bison
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At content

hybrid rapids
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compared to savage imo

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at least that's how 4s VS ultimate coils

kindred bison
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My group’s issue is

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Lack of a second healer

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It’s just me

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We might as well say screw it and get another DPS and I just go pure solo heal

hybrid rapids
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recruitment is the strongest boss

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hmm

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is it possible to solo heal in 8s now...

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might be....?

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heartless tho

kindred bison
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Had to Solo Heal ZurvEx back during content

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WHM

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Cure III heals like a truck

hybrid rapids
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zurvan ex is simple

kindred bison
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For ZurvEx I was using an i230 Astroglobe

hybrid rapids
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8s has some fixed mechanic pairing tanks & heals with DPS

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and also 2nd forsaken

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you can't tell the clone targeting which DPS

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usually it will target tanks and heals

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in short, it will ended up take you more effort to clear

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and the inconsistency

kindred bison
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We’re use to inconsistency at this point

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We get either the 2.4k HPS and 20 DPS Healer

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Or the 2.4k DPS/0HPS healer

hybrid rapids
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i can't help you but good luck

kindred bison
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And with that first one, we still clear with me essentially solo healing it.

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That was for O6S last Tuesday

hybrid rapids
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I've paid much effort to play with top tier players

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since HW until delta savage

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they just accepted me

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that's like 2 years

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to gain reputation slowly

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when people know you are good, they will auto recruit you

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you can't really expect much from random PUG players

vapid grove
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Maybe this is a better place to ask this. Can anyone tell me what the radius/diameter of the Sigma 4 Savage areana is in yalms?

hybrid rapids
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i would say 60y

sudden wharf
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What's the raid dps requirement to clear o8s?

hybrid rapids
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32k

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just a rough number

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but around that

sudden wharf
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Oh, that's a sizable bump up from 07s.

dull radish
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yeah

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but you also have 100% uptime

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for god kefka

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in 7 you have downtime when boss flies up

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though I guess there's multitarget in 7 too haha

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I dunno

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mainly if you can get past regular kefka in 8, and you can get through without excessive deaths/damage down

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god kefka dps check isn't too tight

sudden wharf
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Got it, thanks.

stable basin
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Me a week and a half ago: dammit everyone is in eureka how tf to get them out so I can run things with them

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Me now: ... I might get around to running this later. Eureka time!

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(Well not right this second now. But most nights now lol)

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Does anyone here have an up to date lvl 70 SMN guide?

wet stag
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Join the balance summoner channels

sturdy shell
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Most of my time is spent debating whether I have enough free time to run Eureka.

scenic patrol
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I am doing Eureka right now, aka shitpost and afk together with the choo choo

wet stag
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Mapped out my CDs for godka

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blobsweatbutfast that's a lotta tbns

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21 tbns

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Wew lad

pure yoke
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!whologs @pure yoke

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Dragoon: (39/6748) [6198.21 DPS] [99.7 Historical] [5:55]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Dragoon: (5/6552) [7022.5 DPS] [99.8 Historical] [6:39]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Dragoon: (43/4457) [5917.12 DPS] [99.6 Historical] [8:50]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Dragoon: (5/3292) [5927.77 DPS] [100 Historical] [5:50]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Dragoon: (15/2108) [6368.87 DPS] [99.3 Historical] [8:42]

paper torrent
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100%

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jesus christ

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aoe increase is real

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literally 6k parse

lucid karma
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7k dps 👀

unreal flax
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Mug’s the best DRG I know.

pure yoke
unreal flax
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Hey Mug, I remember you mentioning a galaxy brain diagonal strat for Virus. Any footage? I wanna see this weird shit.

pure yoke
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I didn't have that

unique wolf
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!classlogs gilgamesh uwu xd drg

storm frostBOT
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**FFLogs Data For Uwu Xd of Gilgamesh on DRG**
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Dragoon: (8/6753) [6560.85 DPS] [99.7 Historical] [5:39]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Dragoon: (55/6557) [6617.04 DPS] [99.2 Historical] [7:48]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Dragoon: (26/4461) [5996.65 DPS] [99.3 Historical] [9:38]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Dragoon: (77/3295) [5607.48 DPS] [97.5 Historical] [6:20]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Dragoon: (205/2114) [5955.67 DPS] [93.6 Historical] [9:51]

unique wolf
pure yoke
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can I have your train and guardian log

unique wolf
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guardian is literally a weekly

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everything is a weekly besides o5 funk

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i still have yet to get a perfect o5 run

pure yoke
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O5S is kinda funky

unique wolf
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ive only done a perfect rotation like twice

pure yoke
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I don't think I ever had a perfect rotation in O5S

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and lived to tell the tale

unique wolf
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i can actually get two full life cycles when train comes back

pure yoke
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yeah

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but it can be pretty sketchy

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depending on how fast you kill chimney

unique wolf
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but the timing is so tight

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it has to die exactly when you press sonic thrust

pure yoke
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yeah

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or else it becomes tight to impossible

unique wolf
pure yoke
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aka you might have to feel nasty

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and just do two nastronds

unique wolf
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im going to life surge my sonic thrust

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does that work

pure yoke
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yeah

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life surge works on any gcd

unique wolf
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but it doesnt crit everything

pure yoke
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I think it only crits first target

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atleast I assume so

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I can test it real quick

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just to be 100% sure

unique wolf
pure yoke
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yeah

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life surge makes only your first target crit

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and not necessarily what you targeted

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just what you hit first

unique wolf
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kk

pure yoke
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life surge working with all targets

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now that is power

lucid karma
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life surge working with ogcd

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c r i t i c a l n a s t r o n d

unique wolf
languid shuttle
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Ay what's the ideal level 70 gatherer rotation for big gains

lyric summit
unreal flax
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That's only for collectables. if that's what you're looking for, there you go. For just normal gathering yield, there isn't really one lol. Just use the skill that increases quantity before each strike.

vital bolt
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what's considered the optimal SS for WAR at 70 right now for cleaving?

thorn bear
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1116 is what I'm seeing

topaz wolf
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whats the hp on the o5s ghost?

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when u enter the red one

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100k?

spice comet
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Dps ghost? Idk enough to make them pop their op skills apparently 💦

scenic patrol
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2.38 GCD for Warrior

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a different GCD will have you miss align your Upheaval from IR at some point

opal hollow
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depends on ping

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if you're in europe you can pull off 2.40

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above that can mess things up if you IR too early though

earnest flower
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can you join a static with people on different servers but the same data center as you? Or does it have to be same server

dull radish
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there are plenty of cross-server statics

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the WAR in my static is on a different server, the BRD was too but then he transferred over here

earnest flower
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do I miss out on anything by being on different servers?

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I'm in an fc with a bunch of friends so I don't really wanna transfer but I am looking into trying some of the savage raids

dull radish
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some groups will provide food/pots if you're on the same server, as well as crafted gear earlier on in tiers

earnest flower
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ah

dull radish
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some won't even if you're on the same server though haha

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it's just case by case basis, it's not really a huge deal

earnest flower
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yeah that's reasonable

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and I can just buy pots/food that's not too expensive

paper torrent
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Or just seduce an omnicrafter main

earnest flower
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uwu

glossy musk
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Give me the succ and I’ll make you pots

half surge
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should i be exchanging my anemos crystals for protean?

scenic patrol
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if you do not you will not be able to get a relic

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so yes

primal oak
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make you sure you have at least 100 on your inventory as you'll need it in a quest

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otherwise, exchange away blobcatshrug

half surge
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i see thanks guys

blazing pelican
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blobs

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all the blobs

scenic patrol
small spruce
primal oak
hazy lichen
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What should I meld my AST anemos weapon with?

spice comet
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Its not bis but i just crit it since then its better than byakko

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But i like crit builds so each to their own

glossy musk
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mathematically crit/det

woeful prawn
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lol fuck

stable basin
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that magic hp.

woeful prawn
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holy fuck actually

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that hit the ast for 44k

lyric summit
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zero mitigation

heavy mist
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lazy

stable basin
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hmm so the eureka paladin gloves can only take 163 dh

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what should i put in the 5th slot then?

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(they come maxed on crit)

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ten or det?

wet stag
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@steady pebble lost city of amdapor

steady pebble
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why not just say lost city

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also dont see how it would be a spoiler but w/e

wet stag
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Ikr

paper torrent
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@stable basin det

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Tenacity is ass melded

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Baring stuff for wae

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War

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Iirc

stable basin
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yeah one of siren's best tanks just told me either det or sks, and i feel like 2.38 means i already have too much sks so det it is

wet stag
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Yeah 2.38 is a little fast for pld

paper torrent
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This tier has way too much sks

wet stag
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I think plds want 2.42?

paper torrent
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I'm at 2.35 rn because of current gear bullshit

wet stag
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Wars 2.38, drk 2.33, 2.37, or 2.42

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Lmao

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Same

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But I stopped war

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Since I'm running drk with my static

paper torrent
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Those boot stats can blow me

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The melds on the 360 are so ass

stable basin
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then there are the gloves, which are just barf

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which may be an insult to barf (the 360 gloves that is)

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at least vomit actually serves a useful purpose in its scheme of things

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the gloves do not

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owo

lucid karma
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I rolled fending diamond boots purely because they look nice

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it's more like I rolled low on both tomestone and polish

wet stag
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!item diamond boots of fending

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Boots of Healing** **:** Feet **:** ilvl 370
Defense

326

Magic Defense

570

Vitality

195

Mind

198

Determination

125

Spell Speed

178

Materia Meldable

Yes

wet stag
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!item diamond greaves of fending

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Greaves of Fending** **:** Feet **:** ilvl 370
Defense

814

Magic Defense

814

Strength

198

Vitality

217

Tenacity

178

Skill Speed

125

Materia Meldable

Yes

wet stag
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Eh they aren't bad

grizzled seal
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Use sks if you hit a tier

lucid karma
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mendacity boots are better tho

grizzled seal
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det otherwise

lucid karma
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crit+det

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plus I really need to reduce sks on my tonk

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it's getting way too fast

wet stag
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NO SUCH THING AS TOO FAST

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!item ryumyaku greaves of fending

storm frostBOT
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**Ryumyaku Sune-ate of Fending** **:** Feet **:** ilvl 360
Defense

796

Magic Defense

796

Strength

189

Vitality

205

Critical Hit

119

Determination

171

Materia Meldable

Yes

wet stag
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Fucking kek

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Huh

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I need upgrade my pants first tho

stable basin
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Did anyone get 100 on the Fashion Report?

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I got 50 on my first try for this week.

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I was only wearing the Lost Allagan gear.

stable basin
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what kind of materia should i use for white mage gear

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other than mind and piety obviously

wet stag
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Crit det

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I think

steady pebble
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cant use mnd materia anyway

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but healer secondaries are pretty preferential

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crit, det, sps are all fine choices

blazing pelican
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Sps to personal preference, then Crit > Det

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DH only if you're pushing speed clears, and maybe not even then

stable basin
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hmm

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did lifetime of eureka instance get shortened with the hotfixes?

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used to be it never entered shutdown within a single lockout before

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but the one i was just in very much looked like that was the case

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joined when it was fresh, by the time i left it was going from 50 to 40 to 30 with no sign of replacements

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and i still had 30min left on my timer

paper torrent
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nope

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should be the same still

forest burrow
#

Endgame-discussion?
Is this where we talk about glam and housing?

hybrid rapids
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can confirm, fit the topic

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too

native maple
#

Hey guys am looking into good raid comps can I get a little help

unreal lance
#

Have fun

spice comet
#

Standards 2 range 2 melee 2 heals 2 tanks paissasquint

native maple
#

What class goes well together?

spice comet
#

No dups, etc etc, unless ur parsing or speeding then u can go into specific classes

lyric summit
#

damage-type-wise:
ninja, samurai and warrior buff each other + pld and drk
dragoon buffs bard and machinist
red mage buffs physical jobs

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then like.. crit-wise
drg buffs everyone, bard and monk profits most

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and monk also benefits a lot from having a mostly physical team comp

spice comet
#

Mnk mantra is nice for healer, brotherhood for physical unless that buffs magic dmg too

dull radish
#

brotherhood is just phys yeah

lyric summit
#

smn has a magic vuln but it's kinda a meme and not really worth building a whole caster comp around

spice comet
#

Sch - ast for best raid buffs, chain +cards

dull radish
#

DRG also buffs RDM oGCD + autos with piercing debuff, to note

lyric summit
#

and ninja has trick attack which is basically the best utility

spice comet
#

Smn is high dmg on their own + aetherpact memes

sonic arch
#

is there any # to pvp or i can just ask here ?

dull radish
#

No specific place for it really, here or in the general ffxiv chat is fine enough. Though I don't really know much about PvP myself, I'm sure others can help

sonic arch
#

so i quit like right after stormblood begins, i played the new pvp and didnt enjoy that much, do u guys know if they changed anything big on pvp after 4.0 ?

lyric summit
#

I think we only had like potency changes and new maps, and a new mode

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but it's still the 1 button combos and an oversimplified battle system

sonic arch
#

sadlife

molten blaze
#

Head on cheese in o5s

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Owo

primal oak
#

how does that work o_O

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standing that close should've killed everyone blobcatthinkingglare

dull radish
#

enough mitigation

lyric summit
#

addle reprisal spread critlo sacred soil veil

dull radish
#

no

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don't need the crit, head-on is physical so you feint

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crit makes it cozy though

#

should also shake it off, can burn CD from the previous TB or whatever for a stronger one

primal oak
#

oic

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I usually try to "personally cheese it" by making sure I'm bumped into a ghost panel

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but I don't dare staying closer than 50% of the distance blobcatfearful

scenic patrol
#

Head On requires group effort for cheese

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Only tanks can survive it alone

spice comet
#

Cheesed

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Iirc the vid i got it from that wasnt a critlo

dull radish
#

Yeah if the adlo crits it pretty much trivializes everything, you could pretty much just stack the winds at that point and be fine

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but not worth it enough to fish for the crit, since you can get by fine without it

spice comet
#

40k of shield is op paissasquint

woeful prawn
#

conval defiance largesse minnie is 50k crit 👀

scenic patrol
#

You forgot Mantra

spice comet
#

Im just talking normal larg and conv, 50k broke the game paissasquint

steep iris
#

👀

hybrid rapids
#

hmm

#

sounds good to do in TA

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will suggest to my friends

dull radish
#

it's real cozy

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especially if you have a close box up

scenic patrol
#

something like buffed up Adlo + buffed SiO + Feint + AOE mitigation should be more than enough

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also Veil

dull radish
#

really just the first three and veil are enough, ss or whatever is a bit overkill but makes it nicer

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though casters should generally take a few steps back unless the adlo crits, especially with winds

#

better to use surecast for head-on than for remorse ghost, anyways

scenic patrol
#

the AOE mitigation should last until Acid Rain during the first one

scenic patrol
#

SMN at Leviathan is pretty damn nice

#

tail is just another target to dot up

woeful prawn
#

i think head/tail reflects ranged/magic

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so bards and casters cant doubledot

dull radish
#

they can

woeful prawn
#

oh

dull radish
#

they don't reflect damage persay

#

they just like

#

deal damage to you for initial hit of damage to them

#

so you take a small hit when you apply DoTs or whatever

#

but they still tick for damage

#

and it's really not much damage you take, either

#

now if it kept hitting you for every tick, that would be unfortunate

icy phoenix
#

What do you consider end game?

paper torrent
#

Savage, Eureka and Crafting at 70

icy phoenix
#

Ok, I'm at 66 pld, guess I'll check post stormblood

hybrid rapids
#

feel free to ask any question

spice comet
#

Prob can ask ye

paper torrent
#

Also general rotation advice

hybrid rapids
#

yea

#

as long as it is related to ffxiv

#

it's fine

paper torrent
#

In other words getting good

#

Isn't that what new player is for

hybrid rapids
#

it's same imo

#

some times people asking end-game topic in new player

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and vice versa

#

it doesn't matter

icy phoenix
#

Just wondering, main thing I'm after in the future is more boss training

paper torrent
#

Generally you start by practicing optimal rotations on a dummy

scenic patrol
#

Define boss training

paper torrent
#

After viewing a guide

#

Healing just comes with experience

#

And more so knowledge

icy phoenix
#

I play tank, so I need to learn mechanics a lot

paper torrent
#

Savage will kick your teeth in when you prog

#

But that is what learning parties are for

icy phoenix
#

I'm just at stuff like ramuh extreme and odin

paper torrent
#

Ex primals pre sb are all done unysnc now

spice comet
#

Prob start with dummy when u get to savage

icy phoenix
#

Guessing Savage is the level 70 versions?

spice comet
#

Theres 70 ex trials

#

Savage is a step up

icy phoenix
#

Also fought Odin in South shroud a while back, not even sure strategy works on him

scenic patrol
#

Odin is just zergfest

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Anyhow

#

And there is no excessive need to know mechanics as a tank compared to DPS

#

During O7S one person dying is pretty much a wipe anyways

icy phoenix
#

I've heard the term sigmascape and something about diamond gear, no idea if it has any relation

paper torrent
#

You sear the name of the tank buster in your head and know when it comes

scenic patrol
#

Or you use act triggers like a casul

#

Anyhow current raiding is done in Sigmascape savage

#

Diamond gear is exclusive to savage

spice comet
#

As a tank u know ur cds n just dont die jk there r mechs

icy phoenix
#

In ramuh the tanks had to juggle electricity stacks I mean, nothing more complex?

spice comet
#

Boss positioning sth...sth...

#

Every savage fight is scripted so u know exactly what happens just gotta be prepared

scenic patrol
#

You will die, a lot

spice comet
#

Wait. Thats every fight

paper torrent
#

Eh. A little more complex

scenic patrol
#

But dying is part of Learning fights

paper torrent
#

A lot more

spice comet
#

Oh yea u will love the floor

scenic patrol
#

There are no forced tank swaps in Sigmascape

spice comet
#

I guess u can take god all day

scenic patrol
#

Well, technically yes

paper torrent
#

Some shits still think back prey is easier

grizzled seal
#

savage is just doing dps while dancing

scenic patrol
#

Defiance and IB are tools that are unused usually

spice comet
#

Theres buddy tank busters

scenic patrol
#

Yeah, but that is not a forced swap

spice comet
#

Nah but i think most tanks coord on when to swap

scenic patrol
#

Yeah, not swapping is retarded

spice comet
#

Its more rare to see solo tanking gotta at least know the shirk circlejerk too

paper torrent
#

A K H M O R N

scenic patrol
#

Although 2 fights out of 4 have no swaps happening

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Well, one has RNG for a swap to happen

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But you can be a retard and take the boss to the corner if you don't wanna swap

spice comet
#

And hear ur melee be like "my dps!!!"

scenic patrol
#

Also your ranged

#

It basically cucks 4 DPS players from damaging the boss

wet stag
#

I think the range is a little far for the healers/ranged in the corners as well

#

So you're cucking uh

#

At least 5 people really

scenic patrol
#

Healer is usually in center/ opposite corner, so both healers can DPS

wet stag
#

Ah

#

Didn't know the width of the arena

molten blaze
stoic saddle
#

what's melding priority for rdm? is it crit>dh>det?

hybrid rapids
#

@molten blaze so you can stand before the block or have to stand beside, it seems like it could better if stand at the block to avoid knock back

#

How much dps gained

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Soil + Veil + Shake it off + Cure + adlo + deploy

#

@stoic saddle yes

dull radish
#

the trick is

#

don't surecast remorse ghost

#

surecast head-on

#

keep ghost closer to front to do remorse more properly

#

if the adlo crits you can be super close, heck you can even stack the diabolic winds if you want, it really trivializes stuff

#

otherwise, melee are safe super close, caster/healer should take a step back just to be safe, but without the wind they shoudl be fine

#

also, you should have feint on that list for mitigation

#

soil is also a bit overkill sometimes but doesn't hurt I guess

hybrid rapids
#

I know caster/healer can reach 46k HP at BiS

#

So do Melee have to save the knock back ability as well?

#

MCH and BRD tho

#

Haha

dull radish
#

easy for MCH and BRD

#

for melee, I dunno, doesn't matter too much which they use it on, kinda depends on which box you have up

#

can use gap closers to get back in close instantly after head-on

hybrid rapids
#

I see,thanks !

#

I was thinking if it’s too much effort to save 1~2 GCDs or not

#

Or will it be applied to TA

scenic patrol
#

It's more like 5 GCDs

dull radish
#

mmhmm

#

because otherwise melee have to back away far enough in time for head-on, even with gap closers, they still lose several GCD

#

and don't need the mitigation for much else really

hybrid rapids
#

True

#

Another thing is have to heal before acid rain?

dull radish
#

depends on the mitigation you have up

#

often a bit safer to

#

but not always really needed

hybrid rapids
#

Actually PLD can use cover as well?

#

I meant avoid one of the ranger being knock back

dull radish
#

you can if you want

#

but like

#

they don't really lose anything from being knocked back

#

it doesn't push you out of range of the boss

#

I'd only specifically say to cover the ranged if you have box 1 and box 4 up, and you accidentally kill first ghost by boss

#

then you cover the ranged, since 4th box is out of range when using it for remorse ghost

hybrid rapids
#

And possible to end the fight before second head on right?

dull radish
#

if you kill very, very quickly yes

#

we get 2nd though, but just do same as first

hybrid rapids
#

👍 thanks

primal oak
#

@molten blaze linking that to my static triggered my WHM WHMEEEEEEEEEEEE

scenic patrol
#

My WHM/AST is still triggered by Holmgang

hybrid rapids
#

the interrupted part

#

sad

primal oak
#

triggered not because of the aero getting interrupted

dull radish
#

yeah that's why you have the SCH trigger the veil when they use the adlo for spread (don't need WAR defiance for it), and surecast the head-on haha

primal oak
#

@hybrid rapids ```
追突を正面から受けるために軽減もバリアもフルで重ねまくる気がしないので、ちゃんとギミックは処理しましょう・・・。
しかもこれこの後すぐ酸性雨じゃろ・・・。

hybrid rapids
#

it's doable and a gain in short

#

acid rain won't be a huge problem

#

if you have indom / assize

#

anyway, it's too much effort for a farm party

dull radish
#

yeah

primal oak
#

especially a casual farm party with one of the worst raid comps haha

hybrid rapids
#

yes, and the comp matters too haha

primal oak
scenic patrol
#

That comp is retarded

#

At least there is slashing and STR

hybrid rapids
#

whm more like rage mage

#

the others are blob !

primal oak
#

to be fair, I probably annoyed the hell out of him yesterday by failing mechanics on god kefka raffterparse

#

I messed up 3rd forsaken at least 3 times and single-handedly wiped the raid

hybrid rapids
#

they only do savage once per week to farm

#

not thinking to optimize the fight

primal oak
#

yep

hybrid rapids
#

😖

molten blaze
#

@primal oak triggered because of interrupted or because of strat

primal oak
#

triggered because of all the effort to gain 1 second of uptime and the ablobsweats of dropping under 10% HP right before acid rain

hybrid rapids
#

jithra, you can have fairy to trigger the veil as well

molten blaze
#

It was a pug

#

I’m probably never gonna get to do that again

stable basin
#

Eh. For many people just getting to reliable weekly clears is the goal

hybrid rapids
#

you suggested them to try this strat?

molten blaze
#

No

#

The nin did

hybrid rapids
#

ahhh

molten blaze
#

First time hearing of it or doing it

hybrid rapids
#

because your HP is like 43k

molten blaze
#

Also miku

hybrid rapids
#

kinda risky if failed to heal up for acid rain

molten blaze
#

It gives more dps increase than a balance or even ungarmax

primal oak
#

I know

molten blaze
#

It’s like 10 seconds more uptime for a 6 min fight

primal oak
#

I've been "cheating" my uptime by making sure I'm knocked back into a ghost block

#

I still lose half a second or so per head on though

molten blaze
#

I was doing 0 chest parties

dull radish
#

I wouldn't say it's more of a dps increase than balance or ungarmax

molten blaze
#

Because helping someone clear fucked my orange average and orange median

dull radish
#

but it's nice

molten blaze
#

And now it’s 94% purple

hybrid rapids
#

median is cancerous

molten blaze
#

I don’t deserve getting lowered for this

#

@dull radish it’s 10 sec of uptime for a 6 min fight

primal oak
#

!whologs @primal oak

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Black Mage: (2450/3890) [4673.25 DPS] [39.1 Historical] [8:21]
Machinist: (89/2588) [5741.35 DPS] [95.9 Historical] [7:49]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Machinist: (187/2467) [6053.34 DPS] [92.1 Historical] [8:31]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Machinist: (800/1704) [5111.35 DPS] [59.6 Historical] [11:11]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Machinist: (453/1421) [5096.43 DPS] [68.4 Historical] [6:34]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Machinist: (325/988) [5781.19 DPS] [67.3 Historical] [10:23]

dull radish
#

show me that you're clearing in 6m

molten blaze
#

And it allows different rotations

dull radish
#

and that it gains you straight up 10s for everyone

#

because answer is, that's not true

hybrid rapids
#

wait

#

how could 10 seconds

#

beat a balance

primal oak
#

10 seconds?

hybrid rapids
#

or urganmax

dull radish
#

exactly

primal oak
#

you lose like 3 seconds per head on? o_O

#

basically everyone but tanks and ranged can avoid being knocked back

#

(PLD can but cooldown is too long to use every time I think)

molten blaze
#

Most of the time I see pugs run all the way to the back and lose ~10 seconds because of stun from kb as well

#

And Gajin I was assuming that otherwise that 10 sec was 0 dps

dull radish
#

and those folks aren't gaining much from the uptime either way

primal oak
#

even if not doing the defensive buff stacking, you only have to run back to ~50% or so and then run back in

dull radish
#

and you're certainly not clearing anywhere near 6m in those groups

molten blaze
#

It was 7 min with 4 deaths

#

I meant in a speedrun/optimised party

#

Wait then the 10 sec doesn’t apply either

hybrid rapids
#

my friends had 6:37 mins clear

molten blaze
#

Nvm fuck ignore me

hybrid rapids
#

at 100%

#

but meta comp of course

dull radish
#

yeah like

#

top tier speedkills are getting sub 6m

#

that's about it

molten blaze
#

Anyway

dull radish
#

and that's meta comp and BiS

primal oak
#

they're also all probably using the ghost skip

molten blaze
#

O5S really has a lot of wonky stuff

#

There’s ghost skip, you can cheese head on, and you can skip second diabolic wind on adds

scenic patrol
#

Not doing the ghost skip for speed is retarded

hybrid rapids
#

no, my friend didn't do ghost skip to have 100%

#

he don't have a SSD

dull radish
#

ghost skip is the only weird thing for 5

#

everything else is pretty sensible

primal oak
#

fflogs percentile is compared against logs with similar clear time

scenic patrol
#

I do ghost skip with a HDD

molten blaze
#

Skipping second diabolic wind is weird

dull radish
#

well, and the fact that phantom train takes DoT damage when you disengage

#

not really

molten blaze
#

If you get targetted by second diabolic wind

stable basin
#

I wonder about o5s sometimes

hybrid rapids
molten blaze
#

And kill the adds before it goes off

#

It suddenly randomly fucks off into nonexistence

#

Right when you brace for it to hit you

#

Kinda weird

scenic patrol
#

It's not like it changes how you behave for it

molten blaze
#

It does actually

dull radish
#

lot of things work that way

#

in the game

primal oak
stable basin
#

I don't think I have ever seen a single fight before that people have gone this out of their way to break owo

hybrid rapids
#

yeaa

#

it was day one

#

ikr

molten blaze
#

Because you can stack on first diabolic wind/don’t need to spread out

primal oak
#

yeah, the longer the fight, the better your chance of getting higher percentile if you're playing well

dull radish
#

A11S memes

#

for breaking stuff

molten blaze
#

Because the second wind won’t hit you and so you don’t die

dull radish
#

and that's not a new thing, Jithra

#

not at all

molten blaze
#

Still weird

dull radish
#

eh

#

it's what I'd assume

#

given past behavior

primal oak
#

that was also a parse run since they have at least 3 clears in the same day

scenic patrol
#

O6S is also full of cheese

molten blaze
#

Weird that you get targetted by an Attack and doesn’t go off

dull radish
#

not really at this point

#

with how the game works

#

lot of precedence for it

hybrid rapids
#

rika, did you remember a11s can bait the trash out of bound?

#

then it exploded won't cause any damage

#

haha

primal oak
#

EDD? blobcatthinkingeyes

hybrid rapids
#

yeaaa

primal oak
#

I thought it always spawned in center

hybrid rapids
#

it's

#

he will dash

#

and possible to bait out of bound

#

won't say it's a DPS gain, but it was fun

primal oak
#

!bosslogs chocobo miku minami

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Boss Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Black Mage: (3073/3890) [3458.36 DPS] [39.1 Historical] [8:21]
Machinist: (241/2588) [4655.53 DPS] [95.9 Historical] [7:49]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Machinist: (187/2468) [6053.34 DPS] [92.1 Historical] [8:31]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Machinist: (783/1704) [4413.54 DPS] [59.6 Historical] [11:11]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Machinist: (453/1421) [5096.43 DPS] [68.4 Historical] [6:34]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Machinist: (325/988) [5781.19 DPS] [67.3 Historical] [10:23]

hybrid rapids
#

i will start update my logs after having better gear

dull radish
#

I have cozy bosslogs for 5 <3

hybrid rapids
#

ilvl 353 is too hard to compete against those 365+

dull radish
#

especially since it's without AST haha

hybrid rapids
#

but i'm happy with 90% ilvl 353

primal oak
#

upload everything 😠

hybrid rapids
#

beat my 9%

primal oak
#

need more grays to pad your future oranges blobcatuwu

hybrid rapids
#

😫

scenic patrol
#

!charlogs Odin Johni Bravo

storm frostBOT
#
Error!

This character has not cleared any current content, Kupo!

scenic patrol
#

Sad

molten blaze
#

Lmao

scenic patrol
#

The command hasn't worked for me since I changed my name

#

And I already have parses under the new name

hybrid rapids
#

you changed it recent?

scenic patrol
#

Yes

storm frostBOT
#
Error!

Command is missing argument: first. If you need help please use !help <command>

primal oak
#

try to re-link it with lodestone

hybrid rapids
#

you can ask eanae

scenic patrol
#

Like 4 days ago

dull radish
#

it's whologs, or charlogs server firstname lastname

hybrid rapids
#

mostly likely it's fflog's api

molten blaze
#

Thinking of getting diamond cane

#

But I love augmented mendacity cane’s substats too much

#

My favourite substats

hybrid rapids
#

370 is better bis gain

molten blaze
#

While diamond is kinda potato substats

hybrid rapids
#

diamond cane is ultimate ready :>

molten blaze
#

Mendacity is Det + crit

#

Diamond is piety + something, can’t remember

hybrid rapids
#

i would choose diamond cane

molten blaze
#

Either way, piety, eh.

#

I’ve never run out of mana before

hybrid rapids
#

hmm

#

even 8s?

molten blaze
#

Even while cure 3 spamming on o4s in ilvl 325 and stuff

#

Not reaching god kefka with these Aether pugs

#

Aether pugs have been atrocious this tier

hybrid rapids
#

8s is kinda tight especially you have to raise a lot during practice

molten blaze
#

Yesterday I joined a zero chest party Aether pug

hybrid rapids
#

2 raise will dry up my MP entirely

molten blaze
#

There was a ilvl 312 bonus AST

hybrid rapids
#

after first forsaken

molten blaze
#

On O5S

#

They did 800 HPS and 200 DPS

hybrid rapids
#

managed to clear?

molten blaze
#

And then bragged about clearing with a Susano Weapon

hybrid rapids
#

sounds like carried

molten blaze
#

It tilted me so hard

#

Because I was essentially solo healing

#

And when I said they shouldn’t be so proud of it because they were essentially carried

#

They asked me to stop being a WoW elitist and stuff

hybrid rapids
#

lmao

#

that's why you don't argue with PUGs

molten blaze
#

Bleh

hybrid rapids
#

saw a susano weapon co-healer

#

leave immediately

scenic patrol
#

Yeah

molten blaze
#

What tilted me even more is they were from siren too

#

They weren’t even using actions 50% of the time

scenic patrol
#

Should have kicked them

dull radish
#

yeah like, why even stick around when you see someone like that haha

molten blaze
#

I also had another healer the other day where I outhealed them and they literally did zero dps

#

Party leader wanted to kick (I wasn’t lead) but then decided against it because it was 0 chest

hybrid rapids
#

ABORT MISSION

wet stag
#

Jithra

#

Move to Tonberry man

scenic patrol
#

You mean find a static

wet stag
#

You'll actually get decent pugs

#

Like

#

At least half a brain pugs

molten blaze
#

Hai faye

wet stag
#

Sup

molten blaze
#

If you guys are wondering (not faye) I haven’t joined a static because JST timezone in NA datacenter (Aether)

wet stag
#

Aren't you

molten blaze
#

So wonky timings, can’t join because timezones

wet stag
#

An hour behind jst

pure yoke
boreal edge
#

i had pld join o5s weekly kill with i290 weapon

#

told him why u have it

#

he said im main drk but since you locked entry to pld i joined with my pld

hybrid rapids
#

REMOVE

boreal edge
#

oh and we finally passed 1st forsaken

#

as static

pure yoke
#

only 2 more forsakens to go

boreal edge
#

our whm think thin air is way too op

pure yoke
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every mad heads is a massive opportunity to wipe

boreal edge
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run out of mana

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at light of judgement

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lol

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at least i finally got purple kefka

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@pure yoke idk 2nd forsaken is more scarer to me

pure yoke
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mad heads is scarier for me

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2nd Forsaken is pretty chill

boreal edge
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because muh dps uptime lol

pure yoke
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you have uptime and it's safe

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if you aren't dumb

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have the melees circle around the boss

boreal edge
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i mean for why heads are scarier

pure yoke
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just got to not pop heads too early

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and trusting healers

boreal edge
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boss used light of judgement at 78%

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so i guess we easily meeting dps check

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median percentile is 74.9%

pure yoke
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I don't check the enrage unless we meet it

cerulean pilot
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what's the enrage time on guardian?

scenic patrol
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about 12-13 mins iirc

zinc vortex
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11:50-ish yeah

cerulean pilot
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hmm, so this week's clear was only 30 seconds from enrage for us

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:/

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man I fucking hate that fight so much

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I just do so bad on it

scenic patrol
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I dunno, I started to like it after the 6 hours mark progging it

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unlike O5S where people dying won't make you not clear and O6S that is a snooze fest for tanks

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it's actully threatening

true lark
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Isn't it like 12:45

cerulean pilot
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it just feels so long and tedious

true lark
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It's a long fight

cerulean pilot
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and the boss is #fuckmelee

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doing his 360noscopes and shit all the time

scenic patrol
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that is like 2 times

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during the whole fight

cerulean pilot
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magitek ray happens more than 2 times in the fight

scenic patrol
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oh, ray

cerulean pilot
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prey also makes him spin

scenic patrol
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yeah, that seems annoying for melees

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but it doesn't impact me

cerulean pilot
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having to face north for tentacles

zinc vortex
cerulean pilot
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well yea I don't really care

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it's just annoying

zinc vortex
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wtb original new fun content square

scenic patrol
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I am just a poor Warruru

zinc vortex
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oh wait there hasn't been any of that in over 2 years

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😔

stable basin
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^^

zinc vortex
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every week my dps goes up, but my percentiles go down 😩

cerulean pilot
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at least you aren't garbage tier like me

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take pride in being above average

boreal edge
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eureka is fun content

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what you smoking

zinc vortex
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you want to know how many item levels i went up by

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since week 1

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and how many loot drops i've had

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?

cerulean pilot
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at least you cleared week 1 so you have pages

boreal edge
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u get books at least now

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back in coil days

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i been doing T1 for my tank bis chest

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since 2.0

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the chest dropped to me last week before 2nd coil released

scenic patrol
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lol

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poor Spear

zinc vortex
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😔

scenic patrol
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Spear, wanna see how you troll a MCH?

zinc vortex
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my ilevel went up by 7 in the past 9 weeks

scenic patrol
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00:05:15.801 Manami Meiken's The Balance fades from Megu Airi
00:05:16.259 Demon Chadarnook 1 is afflicted by Wildfire from Megu Airi
00:05:26.189 Megu Airi's Wildfire fades from Demon Chadarnook 1
00:05:27.107 Megu Airi gains The Balance from Manami Meiken

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it's perfection

boreal edge
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i stopped playing mch seriously lately

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they cant design fights on mch playstyle

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so it got old fast to me

scenic patrol
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O7S: "Healers Adjust"

boreal edge
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u mean 1st forsaken

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man it took me alot

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to force healers to stop looking for ways to keep dpsing at 1st forsaken

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there is too much healing need to be done there

scenic patrol
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yeah, it seems to be too heavy on the healing reqs

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anyhow did you like how my static's AST gave balance to the sub MCH?

boreal edge
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yup

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no balance mid WF

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lol

scenic patrol
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balance before and after

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not in

boreal edge
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i literally told em