I thought it was a counter
#endgame-lounge
trim epoch
tepid briar
what.
random needle
... c41 for this exact fight???
clear plume
Realistically, he’s probably a console player and it isn’t uploaded
random needle
I guess I don't have much room to speak because I prog lied to arena split from fresh but still
clear plume
But it’s never a good thing to have tomestone behind console players get to sit in the hotel chair on that one
tepid briar
I guess I don't have much room to speak because I prog lied to arena split from ...
.
to snaking fine
to split holy fuck
random needle
We saw stated prog point in two pulls so
tepid briar
yeah I don't have the balls for that
I still have trauma of anxiously hoping red hot doesn't point the cleave the wrong way
wicked delta
this thancred wannabe is trying to scam his way through prog 🔥
random needle
I was kinda egged on into it by a couple friends who did have that far of prog and Trojan Horse'd me that far but
tepid briar
I was kinda egged on into it by a couple friends who did have that far of prog a...
okay valid
I was enrage to clear m11 and had a friend trojan me into a reclear
yeah those people sucked
m10 was a 200 pull for me
random needle
I'd probably still be on m11 enrage to clear if I didn't get helped
random needle
tepid briar
I was all pfing though
wicked delta
just update his tomestone it'll be accurate right
wicked delta
chills
random needle
I'm struggling with motivation to do m12 though
wicked delta
embarassingly took me like 100 pulls to clear p1
amber fable
My tomestone for m12 show 50
amber fable
But I got upto curtain call
wicked delta
i inted hard in my m11s clear
random needle
rapid whale
i stopped reading a certain point and was like bro
random needle
m12s experience
amber fable
Nobody uploaded that pull
wicked delta
i stopped reading a certain point and was like bro
rapid whale
I'm struggling with motivation to do m12 though
sis got so used to clearing quick they cant handle normal prog anymore smh /s (i know you do mine static)
random needle
Reclears give me severe brain damage
amber fable
M12p1 is such a boring ass fight
rapid whale
door slop
amber fable
Spending too long on it unironically makes me not wanna do it
random needle
It's so boring, but with so many stupid ways to get yourself or others killed
I've died multiple times to hugging the snake wall as β in act 2
wicked delta
idk i liked p1
clearing it was the actual painful part
it was simple in concept but a lot of the parties i was in were um
random needle
I'd probably like it a bit better if people could do act 2/3 a little better but weh
wicked delta
gulp!
rapid whale
i think the only mech i actively dislike is the chained bat in m9s
hate that shit
idc if its easy i hate it
random needle
Deathmatch is 💀
random needle
The bit I hate most is if you're chained to the out bat
Because you can't be too far away or you get ddowned, you can't be too far in when it stops or you get hit, but you also can't be too close to the boss or you get hit by the donut instead
random needle
And then it's immediately followed by Akh Morn :icant:
rapid whale
no idea who this is but i am genuinely impressed by their perseverance
wicked delta
this cannot be real
valid solar
can we talk about how p2 --> p3 took over 1000 pulls
amber fable
Surely its party fault
valid solar
surely
zealous meteor
amber fable
Even auto rotation with boss mod would have progged faster
Kinda crazy to take that many pulls
rapid whale
i was just sent the screen so i have 0 context who it is
zealous meteor
if they actively progged 4 hours a day (not counting waiting for PF, just the time in combat) that's over two months of prog
rapid whale
im just genuinely, like no sarcasm, impressed by their mental
idt i could ever be that strong
amber fable
I would have quit a long ago
rapid whale
i would sooner pay for prog
rotund summit
no idea who this is but i am genuinely impressed by their perseverance
2k pulls between first p5 and kill without seeing p5
is wild
amber fable
If that was me
versed kayak
no idea who this is but i am genuinely impressed by their perseverance
thats...dang
sleek moon
i did 19 runs of zelenia between yesterday and today with no drop, and i tab here to some dude spending 1000 pulls progging 1 phase of fru
how tf
wicked delta
2 chest on a saturday is brave
also why didnt they do weekly rewards not yet claimed lol
rapid whale
???
zealous meteor
sick dirge
duality of man
amber fable
20% ethanol?
random needle
Gamer girls know why
rapid whale
wicked delta
rapid whale
tobi's people watching skills are gold parse fr
wicked delta
im just glam checking half of these folks
issue is that limsa people all dress the same
rapid whale
you just dont understand the darkness in their soul
something something brighter the light the bigger the darkness kingdomhearts #whenuwalkaway
clear plume
Their kitten understands them
wicked delta
im gonna get a tell from an angry catgirl asking why im looking at their bf atp
clear plume
I have a character to respond to that with if it’s on gilg
sleek moon
the angry catgirl with pure white and pastel pink glams
rapid whale
im gonna get a tell from an angry catgirl asking why im looking at their bf atp
ask them who doesnt take photos at the zoo
wicked delta
big things are happpening
mighty agate
BDSM couple and evil and intimidating pig
iron jewel
Winnie the Pooh Goes to the BDSM Club
flat axle
Ayee I got past ifrit nail part in UWU that’s prog right there
sleek moon
Chat I think I'm too old to play DRG
My wrist is on fire after doing 24 man on DRG
Too many weaves
I'm back to rdm
remote gate
https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-mihono-bourbon-gif-152603846361...
noooo bourbon
worn bluff
if evolved wasn’t coming 8.0 drg would get two more mirage dives
uncut pebble
tepid briar
valid solar
My wrist is on fire after doing 24 man on DRG
flat axle
Tank seems really hard to play in raids
Especially in ultimates when moving the boss and stuff.
I tried hopping on M1 heavy weight, in a practice run and got one shotted by the first tank buster twice and got kicked. Made me scared to try tank in raid againXD
tulip anvil
I tried hopping on M1 heavy weight, in a practice run and got one shotted by the...
That was just you not using mits
flat axle
That was just you not using mits
I used one but I guess it was not enough
trim frost
i mean yeah dying to the tankbuster is the most obvious indicator that you don’t know what you’re doing
which one
flat axle
The first time I thought o could survive, so that was a mistake the second time I thought one was enough
flat axle
i mean yeah dying to the tankbuster is the most obvious indicator that you don’t...
It’s said practice run fresh, I thought most people in there did not know what they where doing
tulip anvil
I’m not a tank player but 1 mit isn’t gonna cut it with a lot of tank busters in savage
trim frost
that’s fresh for the mechanics of the fight
not for high end raiding in general
but tbh adequate mitigation should not be a concept you learn after trying high end content
flat axle
It also said learning soo
rapid whale
I tried hopping on M1 heavy weight, in a practice run and got one shotted by the...
yea tank busters in savage and above content require heavy mit
trim frost
learning the mechanics of the fight
rapid whale
usually 40% if not more
im not a tank expert so i couldnt tell you precisely but part of learning to play tank is what is known as a "mit plan" so that your cool downs are used efficiently
and yes, autos are part of that in most encounters
flat axle
Well I’m use to not getting blasted by one tank buster, did not know it was gonna kill me in one hit, but now I know.
trim frost
40% can be (but not always) sufficient by itself, 20% needs some help from other short cds to get a higher effective % mit
have you done extremes?
flat axle
have you done extremes?
Yes but not as tank
trim frost
then you should start there
and it should be current extremes ofc
like doomtrain enuo
doomtrain is a very good one to practice with because tankbusters are extremely frequent on top of very heavy auto attacks so you have to think about how to effectively spread your mitigations
i can’t speak on enuo bc i haven’t done it yet
rapid whale
It's unfortunate they kicked you but hey you learned something
I don't even really think it's your fault since the msq does piss all to prepare you for this level of content
tall field
This
rapid whale
I always say the msq does everything it can to make you a bad player and a lot of learning to raid is breaking the habits it taught you
flat axle
It's unfortunate they kicked you but hey you learned something
Well I only tried twice, I was gonna pop 2 mit the next time it came
loud nymph
yeah, if you're new to savage the game has never thrown any actual tankbusters at you
tall field
You didn't need to double mit
flat axle
They did not even give me a chance to try again
tall field
You can just throw your 25s/15s and call it a day
rapid whale
That's two mits tho
tall field
Then you get your eyes opened wide in high end
rapid whale
flat axle
yeah, if you're new to savage the game has never thrown any actual tankbusters a...
First time I get hit by a one shot like thatXD
loud nymph
hopefully the new intermediate difficulty in EC makes the transition from normal to savage a bit less.....jarring
jolly flume
square enix didn't give tanks like 80% total mitigation for busters that do half your hp
flat axle
You didn't need to double mit
I tried one and still got killed, maybe cause I am 760?
trim frost
yikes
trim frost
you should be 770 minimum
tall field
I tried one and still got killed, maybe cause I am 760?
For which? M9s?
loud nymph
the instance is 770+
trim frost
closer to 780 now honestly with how much free gear upgrading you can do
rapid whale
To make an analogy, the msq is like a slip and slide and then savage is like asking you to surf or wipe out
loud nymph
why would you go into a learning PF with less than the minimum gear level
flat axle
For which? M9s?
The one with the vamp chick
loud nymph
bruh
trim frost
the instance is 770+
(the instance is 760 but nobody goes in with 760 when 770 gear is available on release)
loud nymph
(the instance is 760 but nobody goes in with 760 when 770 gear is available on r...
I mean, ok, fair
jolly flume
To make an analogy, the msq is like a slip and slide and then savage is like ask...
I'll wipe you out.
loud nymph
but still
flat axle
the instance is 770+
It said 760 can enter so I went in
loud nymph
bruh
trim frost
well this is a learning opportunity
jolly flume
let me assure you that 30 more item levels wouldn't have fixed what you were doing
just learn the basics first
tall field
The one with the vamp chick
Yeah m9s
But yeah Always do 40+ short mit OR rampart+your unique (thrill/bulwark/dmind/camo) +your short mit (with obl if drk)
And see which attacks can hurt u more
flat axle
Yeah m9s
But yeah Always do 40+ short mit OR rampart+your unique (thrill/bulwark...
Ok so short and long, for someone reason I did not think the mit stacked
torn kindle
TFW I gotta do P4S like 10 or 11 times because there’s so many weapons I want for glam
tall field
And a short mit helps for them
loud nymph
Ok so short and long, for someone reason I did not think the mit stacked
It does stack, you don't get the full value from both but it absolutley does. But also.....that's what tankbusters are there for 🙂 to make you use your personal mits
deep gale
So wait have you just been using one mit at a time in lvl 100 dungeons?
jolly flume
well it's less that's a problem
and more what else do you not know
because I'd bet the answer is a lot
flat axle
So wait have you just been using one mit at a time in lvl 100 dungeons?
Yep and never had an issue
tall field
Did you meld
trim frost
casual content isn’t challenging
tall field
Materia
rapid whale
Yeah you're just in the "you don't know what you don't know" yet
torn kindle
I mean in dungeons you basically never need more than one mit active
tall field
And have popcorn
torn kindle
Hell if you single pull mit isn’t needed at all
trim frost
you’re not actually required to mit in a lot of cases honestly
loud nymph
Again this is just more proof of the issues with the difficulty rampup between normal and savage
flat axle
Did you meld
Put materia on? No not yet
rapid whale
Not your fault it's one of the major criticism of xiv end game, how big the difficulty spike is
loud nymph
bruh
flat axle
you’re not actually required to mit in a lot of cases honestly
I do but just one. I always used mit
trim frost
well that’s my point
the difference between one and zero mits is almost fucking nothing in casual content because it doesn’t hurt
rapid whale
Put materia on? No not yet
Before going back into savage I recommend getting the crafted 770 set, upgrading the pieces you can to 780, and melding them
tall field
In w2w pulls?
flat axle
Not your fault it's one of the major criticism of xiv end game, how big the diff...
Yeah it’s also my first time getting into end game content I was always casual.
tall field
Did you use more than 1 mit
rapid whale
I forget the exact process of turning crafted gear into 780 but iirc it uses uncapped tomes
flat axle
Did you use more than 1 mit
Never just one at a time
trim frost
tankbusters in savage will basically always kill you in the absence of proper mit
rapid whale
Point being, you can walk into your next attempt at 780 should you so wish
trim frost
and you really should
tall field
Yeah
deep gale
I forget the exact process of turning crafted gear into 780 but iirc it uses unc...
You exchange crafted gear for vouchers and uncapped tomes for rain, then can trade both for augmented crafted gear, yeah
flat axle
Before going back into savage I recommend getting the crafted 770 set, upgrading...
Ok I’ll just wait until I get better gear then, I’ll just stick to doing the UWU I was going for now
loud nymph
have you never tried extreme, aleanotis?
loud nymph
ah ok fair enough
trim frost
if it’s like ifrit lmao lmao
flat axle
don’t know which ex he means tho
I tried ex back in shadowbringer
loud nymph
😬
trim frost
yeah no u gotta do dt extremes to get experience in current content
flat axle
have you never tried extreme, aleanotis?
Only other stuff I done is ultimate, I been trying to do UWU I managed to get passed ifrit spike today
trim frost
mmm
rapid whale
Yeah even in UWU there's a mit plan
loud nymph
yeah
flat axle
Yeah even in UWU there's a mit plan
I’m not tanking in there I’m dmg
loud nymph
depends on the dps, melees only ever do garuda cleanses
ranged at least have to do uh
the ifrit bait thingies
rapid whale
But yeah the ball is in your court now, first things first is getting yourself a crafted set. Should be under 2m to get it
jolly flume
uwu has mechanics?
flat axle
tbf dps don’t really do much in uwu
Yeah that’s why when I jumped to tank it seemed much harder but people was telling me that dps is harder in ultimate raids
loud nymph
and mesohigh tethers I guess
jolly flume
dps is not harder ever
rapid whale
Yeah that’s why when I jumped to tank it seemed much harder but people was telli...
Nawwwwww
deep gale
uwu has mechanics?
Yeah that's what the dismantle is for
flat axle
uwu has mechanics?
24 minute video of mechanics I had to watch
jolly flume
ever ever ever
rapid whale
DPS is known for being the unga bunga role in high end
tall field
Put materia on? No not yet
-
For now start getting the habit to use Iong+short in all content starting with the casual, yes not needed but the muscle memory will do.
-
The gear suggestions told above.
-
Once you are ready with the gear you can get, meld materia on them: start with critical hit. If the gain is <54 switch to direct hit.
-
Get caramel popcorn
Always eat this before doing high end. The stat increase helps a lot.
loud nymph
24 minute video of mechanics I had to watch
chiyo is saying that uwu's mechanics are not complicated or hard compared to other ultimates
flat axle
1. For now start getting the habit to use Iong+short in all content starting wit...
Ok I’ll do that then
trim frost
i cleared uwu in 13 pulls on drg from fresh it is really that nothingburger for dps
could’ve been fewer if a certain crayon didn’t troll my group
flat axle
chiyo is saying that uwu's mechanics are not complicated or hard compared to oth...
Oh I though uwu was hard, guess my team and me just sucked took us an hour to get Garuda down
loud nymph
uwu is the easiest ultimate
deep gale
Its all relative
loud nymph
It's still an ultimate
tall field
Main is awakening her
loud nymph
but compared to the others it is much easier
flat axle
i cleared uwu in 13 pulls on drg from fresh it is really that nothingburger for ...
Oh dang you must be really good, I think we did the same and only got to ifrit
rapid whale
as the saying goes there's levels to this shit
loud nymph
it's all relative to your amount of high end experience, that's all
rapid whale
the important part imho is the willingness to improve
flat axle
We was all first time trying it
rapid whale
as long as you dont get stuck in a rut and go full doomer you'll be fine
flat axle
nah I had fun learning it and the people I was with also where chill, only had that bad experience when I tried hopping in the savage as tank
trim frost
i mean part of clear efficiency is having party members who know what theyre doing
rapid whale
yea im like 90% sure valcors went in w/ people who had cleared
trim frost
with zero people who know what they’re doing the pull count could be 10x longer or more
because everyone is then prone to some aspect of personal failure that wipes the group
rapid whale
hell 50x
tall field
Extremes do require some amount of mitigation but is more lenient if you mess up ur mitigation.. hence the middle ground. In evercold next year we will get more of this middle ground difficulty
rapid whale
10 pull sto clear an ultimate is by no means normal
tall field
nah I had fun learning it and the people I was with also where chill, only had t...
Dw i had the exact feeling doing p9s after msq endwalker
Got owned in tbe very first tb
flat axle
yea im like 90% sure valcors went in w/ people who had cleared
Oh I thought he just hop in there with fresh never done it and competed it in 13 tries
rapid whale
yea nah
1 single person not really knowing whats going on but has studied and has ppl in vc telling them what to do during hectic parts is a v diff exp than 8 ppl fresh to a fight
not to discount what valcors did
something you run into a lot when its 8 fresh is nobody is 100% sure why a wipe happened
that alone can eat up more than 10 pulls lol
craggy marsh
something you run into a lot when its 8 fresh is nobody is 100% sure why a wipe ...
stares at the rep 1 wipes where nobody speaks up
flat axle
something you run into a lot when its 8 fresh is nobody is 100% sure why a wipe ...
One guy made it to ifrit nails so he did help us learn the mech for Garuda, I watched a video too
rapid whale
jolly flume
but the wipe still happened sooo
can't be my fault, I'm perfect
rapid whale
so true pookie
flat axle
I should try healer in there. Probably more stressful than tank?
tall field
I agree with the statement the expectations from someone only who did msq/normals and then when they go to savage cos
Its unlocked so i deserve to clear it with what knowledge i have and then get owned..
Yeaa
jolly flume
healing is generally not very difficult but reasonably punishing
the bar to do your job well is not that high
the consequences for not doing your job well
are pretty bad
rapid whale
to put that into perspective
trim frost
1 single person not really knowing whats going on but has studied and has ppl in...
i think billy chan one pulled it or smth
flat axle
I agree with the statement the expectations from someone only who did msq/normal...
Tbh I did not know what to expect i always wanted to try it but was to nervous, and then the exact thing I was nervous about happened😂
rapid whale
a dps doing poorly at their job only finds out 10 mins later when they enrage
assuming mechs were done
a healer doing poorly finds out almost immediately when ppl die
tall field
Tbh I did not know what to expect i always wanted to try it but was to nervous, ...
Yea game doesnt tell the expectations 
flat axle
healing is generally not very difficult but reasonably punishing
easier then tank?0
trim frost
a dps doing poorly at their job only finds out 10 mins later when they enrage
sometimes they don’t even find out
jolly flume
depends on the fight
rapid whale
thgat too
trim frost
they just continue on blissfully unaware that they’re the problem
jolly flume
a clear is a clear right chat
rapid whale
ppl bitching and moaning about m11s dps check meanwhile they are like, a full 5k dps lower than wk1 clears
trim frost
verses from the book of rin
jolly flume
never mind that I am healing the boss
loud nymph
healing_with_pf_schs.mp4
tall field
a dps doing poorly at their job only finds out 10 mins later when they enrage
Put enrage in expert roulette and casuals will complain
So we cant
flat axle
ppl bitching and moaning about m11s dps check meanwhile they are like, a full 5k...
What’s a dps check?
trim frost
uh oh
loud nymph
Put enrage in expert roulette and casuals will complain<:sadge:82230681456476166...
honestly, then the casuals can git gud
jolly flume
if you don't kill the boss by a certain time everyone explodes unavoidably
:)
hence
rapid whale
so, in savage and above content there is a minimum amount of DPS the party as a whole has to do in order to kill the boss before they instantly wipe you
flat axle
if you don't kill the boss by a certain time everyone explodes unavoidably
Oh I yes I seen that before
loud nymph
note: dps checks exist in extreme too, as well as a few specific instances of normal content
tall field
That is sort of an enrage
rapid whale
o do they
loud nymph
but the checks are so lax as to be basically nonexistent below savage
flat axle
I did not know it was called a dps check
flat axle
Cause they ain’t that hard to do in casuals
tall field
Ruby actually has an enrage
loud nymph
I did not know it was called a dps check
also sometimes called an enrage timer
rapid whale
but yeah lemme find the photo of the dps checks this tier
flat axle
Ahhh ok
trim frost
yeah, euphrosyne 2nd boss for example
i almost hit that enrage day one it was funny
flat axle
So besically in svg if 1 dps is not doing dmg perfectly yall can wipe?
rapid whale
perfectly is a very strong word
loud nymph
it doesn't have to be perfect
trim frost
not necessarily
tall field
Depends on mechanic
rapid whale
it also depends on when in the tier you are clearing
week 1 and it can absolutely feel that way
loud nymph
but if someone is sandbagging and doing a fraction of what they should be, yes, the party could hit enrage even if they do everything else perfectly
trim frost
you should try to aim for as close to perfect as you can but that’s not usually realistic
jolly flume
I mean doing damage close to perfectly in this game is once again not a super high bar
flat axle
Ohh I see
tall field
If you do mechs perfect
rapid whale
for example, m11s was notorious in PF for feeling "too hard" just due to the DPS check alone; the expectation was you would need a perfect (or close to it) run (aka 0 deaths 0 damage downs) and double melee limit break in order to meet the check
loud nymph
yes, the bar is so low it's actually in the ground
flat axle
you should try to aim for as close to perfect as you can but that’s not usually ...
Like doing the optimal rotation for the dps job and perfect and possible
tall field
trim frost
and you're better than 75% of players
75 exactly on my uwu clear 😌
trim frost
Like doing the optimal rotation for the dps job and perfect and possible
not trying to is kinda trolling
so yeah
jolly flume
the fundamentals that are shared across every job in the game are enough to put you in the 75th to 90th percentiles comfortably
loud nymph
Like doing the optimal rotation for the dps job and perfect and possible
perfection is really not needed, but you should still be trying for it
rapid whale
as weeks go by and people get access to more and more gear, the relative "perfection" that is asked of the player goes down
flat axle
for example, m11s was notorious in PF for feeling "too hard" just due to the DPS...
Dang that sounds rough, maybe I will just play healer and tank then
brisk scarab
yeah, once people start gaining ilvl over the coming weeks it becomes more lenient, but still requires quite a lot of personal application
loud nymph
Dang that sounds rough, maybe I will just play healer and tank then
erm, about that
trim frost
Dang that sounds rough, maybe I will just play healer and tank then
the principle is the same
tall field
Both their dps matter
dusk sky
Difficulty is relative and all that jazz, but yeah comfortably knowing your rotation and how to do it through mechanics is always a steady bar
loud nymph
healer and tank dps matters too
trim frost
you need to try to optimize your damage regardless of role
tall field
You aint getting scott free with bad dps in healer
brisk scarab
healers do a decent chunk themselves, yeah
loud nymph
DPS are responsible for 60-65% of the party's DPS, tanks and healers are responsible for the other 35-40%
rapid whale
healer being bad at dps is actually one of the major reasons the m11s check was considered "impossible for PF" in the early weeks, because you'd get healers who were not efficient doing like a full 25-30% lower DPS than their job could potentially put out
brisk scarab
healer deaths are way more impactful in itself as well
jolly flume
bad healers often contribute more to enrages than bad dps
tall field
healer being bad at dps is actually one of the major reasons the m11s check was ...
Wait this is why?
loud nymph
healer deaths also lead to losing resources, making healing harder
jolly flume
healers are the only role in the game that have a tradeoff between their main role purpose and doing damage
loud nymph
which, in turn, makes the DPS check harder
flat axle
Shit
loud nymph
because they must spend more GCDs on healing due to the lack of resources
jolly flume
tanks don't lose damage by doing tank shit
healers do lose damage for doing healing shit if they're playing badly
rapid whale
Wait this is why?
it's those 12k dps healers when someone like @jolly flume was putting out 20k in full crafted gear and giving up gcd's to do weapons
brisk scarab
dead healer > other healer most likely loses decent chunk of mana reviving, or uses resources > offbalance in healing and dps output
jolly flume
many healers also just simply suck at rolling their gcd
loud nymph
for example, an SGE dying means they lose any addersgall they have stored
brisk scarab
and I believe WHM has bloom from 3 flower stacks
loud nymph
WHMs lose their lilies, SCHs lose their aetherflow
brisk scarab
^ yeah, lilies
flat axle
ok now playing healer sounds nerv racking af, I’ll just stick to tank.
tall field
Bye bye fairy
trim frost
asts lose their mp lol
loud nymph
SCH would lose faerie gauge as well too yeah
rapid whale
point being that everyone has to perform in savage and above
jolly flume
scholar's kind of okay provided you hold dissipation
and stagger af/lucid
but it's obviously not ideal
flat axle
point being that everyone has to perform in savage and above
So pretty much it’s gonna be hard time no matter what so just play what I like
rapid whale
pretty much
loud nymph
yeah, that's kinda the point
rapid whale
it's just a matter of how visible are your errors
tall field
For tanks not using mits is
rapid whale
tank errors as u saw u die to tb etc
brisk scarab
you just gotta get used to a role you like playing
jolly flume
every role has to contribute tangibly or you wipe for the most part
flat axle
gunbreaker😊
rapid whale
healer error, someone dies while at full health
tall field
You dont want a healer yell at you in this
rapid whale
dps error, you see enrages
brisk scarab
theres dps that have more output, but any dps/healer/tank job can clear anything
just find the job that suits you
tall field
^
jolly flume
as with many things, the problem is usually between the chair and the screen
brisk scarab
I've mained BLM for the 3sh years Ive played this game, and I'm comfortable doing savage and up content because of it
rapid whale
there is no quick fix, no "baby role" nothing like that, everyone has to do their part
stray forge
weird, i dont recall there being anything wrong with my keyboard
rapid whale
tall field
In extremes this applies
jolly flume
weird, i dont recall there being anything wrong with my keyboard
I do, you haven't sent me more pictures of mint
loud nymph
PF proves every day you can be dogshit at this game and still clear
tall field
But not to a large extent
flat axle
just find the job that suits you
I been leveling everting, so far I like all the tanks, and range physical dps except bard, I have to pay attention to to much shit with it, sage is fun too
loud nymph
but that doesn't mean you shouldn't always be trying to do better
rapid whale
p much
brisk scarab
brisk scarab
Ive PFed most content Ive ever done in FFXIV...
tall field
So where is chaotic difficulty
trim frost
when will i find my shitter kitten
loud nymph
shitten?
brisk scarab
jolly flume
rapid whale
wasnt shitten a pokemon name or something
tall field
Litten
dapper zealot
Litten
loud nymph
skitty
jolly flume
hissatsu: shitten
tall field
The most infamous cat
Created
Why? VgC
Thats why
The cat owns vgc as its playground
rapid whale
what is vgc
jolly flume
huh
tall field
what is vgc
Pokemons official championships
brisk scarab
excuse me
rapid whale
oh i see
tall field
Basically competitive pokemon battling
loud nymph
oh did you not know about hot skitty x wailord action
brisk scarab
Why do you know these things boulder
loud nymph
listen I didn't code the fucking egg groups ok
stray forge
brisk scarab
erm
loud nymph
oh dear
jolly flume
zamn
brisk scarab
does 469,508 mean wins orrrrr
tall field
Altho iirc garchomp sneasler dragonite mega floette ive seen more
flat axle
what does rank 4 mean
that’s like lower master ball
Where can I upgrade my crafted gear.
That I bought in market
I bough the lovely set
tall field
Where can I upgrade my crafted gear.
Do you have other crafted
loud nymph
did you buy it hq
stray forge
that’s like lower master ball
tall field
Also this
flat axle
I think the highest I reached was like 2k on that I haven’t played this season, top 10K
flat axle
did you buy it hq
Not all of them are
loud nymph
b r u h
flat axle
Do you have other crafted
No just that cortly love
loud nymph
nq crafted gear has stats that are like 20 ilvls below its actual listed ilvl
stray forge
scammed
loud nymph
you essentially walked into m9s with ilvl 750 gear
rapid whale
flat axle
Lmao
rapid whale
i didnt even know people sold nq stuff
loud nymph
they do, because they want to scam newbies
jolly flume
people craft it by accident and people buy it by accident
but the money's still in my wallet
dapper zealot
That or glam
flat axle
I was being cheap I did not know it was such a huge difference
tall field
always buy gear with this icon with them
jolly flume
I can give you enough gil for a full set if you need it
dapper zealot
But almost always accidents
tall field
For crafted
flat axle
people craft it by accident and people buy it by accident
I just saw it cheaper so I got it lol
loud nymph
you essentially walked into m9s with ilvl 750 gear
sorry, let me amend: unmelded ilvl 750 gear
flat axle
<:HQ:1011153237010825277> always buy gear with this icon with them
Ok got it
tall field
Same with food/pots
flat axle
I do have most of them HQ
tall field
In ur case caramel popcorn
flat axle
I have one part from alliance raid that’s 780
loud nymph
your first goal should be replacing any NQ crafted gear with something better
tall field
I have one part from alliance raid that’s 780
That's ok
loud nymph
whether that's HQ crafted, or tome gear, or something from AR
shy obsidian
how based am i
tall field
Wow no chomp
flat axle
Where do I upgrade the HQ Cortney love set?
shy obsidian
...i just realized literally most of these are gen 7+
shy obsidian
oi don't diss my all-time favorite 😭
tall field
Noguard dynamic punch to the face
stray forge
Courtney Love? Who's that
loud nymph
Where do I upgrade the HQ Cortney love set?
yoiu have to trade the items in to an NPC in Solution 9, who will give you certificates in exchange; then you trade that NPC certificates and an item you buy with mathematics tomestones for the upgraded items
rapid whale
is there a chat command for augmenting crafted gear
loud nymph
I don't think so, would be good tho
jolly flume
it's usually pinned
tall field
It is pinned
loud nymph
her
dapper zealot
You'll need a ton of maths tomes first
don't be like me with a half naked tank cause I ran out of maths
loud nymph
yeah, you will need 100 mathematics tomes for each rain and each item you augment will need several rains
stray forge
im too lazy to do frontline roulette someone do it for me
rapid whale
@flat axle
tall field
Get rid of those NQ crafted ye
flat axle
Ahh ok I’ll go do trains and get em
shy obsidian
check out my gay mons btw
rapid whale
huh
flat axle
Get rid of those NQ crafted ye
I wasted so much money on them but I’ll get rid😩
dapper zealot
have you melded them yet and done any combat yet?
rapid whale
what server are you on
dapper zealot
after wearing the gear specifically
loud nymph
after wearing the gear specifically
they did m9s earlier with it so yes
dapper zealot
rip
loud nymph
yup
flat axle
have you melded them yet and done any combat yet?
Yeah I did combat
rapid whale
what server aer you on @flat axle
flat axle
what server aer you on <@180043620324343808>
Primal Hyperion, I’m in aether right now cause someone told me to go there for raiding
stray forge
dont tell him
flat axle
Jenova
stray forge
dudes a menace to society
dapper zealot
got a cut on my finger and it's annoying af
flat axle
Ohh lolol
rapid whale
okay meet me at uldah
stray forge
bapples gonna make sure you didnt buy gil
flat axle
Ok gimme one sec
dapper zealot
witnessing horrors beyond comprehension in real time
shy obsidian
what the fuck happened to my crafting macros
they wre just fine yesterday
rapid whale
consider it a raiding starter kit
since you still have to buy potions etc eventually
flat axle
Broo made me rich af
dapper zealot
bapple owns your soul now
stray forge
he expects payment
flat axle
Oh I will
stray forge
in services
jolly flume
services you say
flat axle
in services
What kind of services😂
loud nymph
thats why he said to meet him in uldah
might as well have said "meet me in the lion's pride inn on moon guard"
jolly flume
might as well have said "meet me in the lion's pride inn on moon guard"
putting that in my gps
rapid whale
but yea just focus on improving etc
loud nymph
it's where WoW players go for extreme raid progression
flat axle
but yea just focus on improving etc
Tyyyy🥺
jolly flume
how do you even erp on wow
rapid whale
maybe it's a me thing but i find there are few joys as being a better player than you were yesterday/last pull/whatever
rapid whale
skill is not something granted to you but ripped off the corpses of your past selves
rapid whale
flat axle
imma hop in that vamp chicks arena with new gear and woop her now
loud nymph
how do you even erp on wow
it often involves female draenei who are uh
shall we say
equipped with something extra
stray forge
Hmmm
rapid whale
kinger is oddly experienced in extreme raid progression it seems
rapid whale
loud nymph
kinger is oddly experienced in extreme raid progression it seems
no I've just been around the internet longer than some people on this server have been alive
jolly flume
mb
vestal hollow
no I've just been around the internet longer than some people on this server hav...
how old are you.
actually
how old do people think I am
loud nymph
42, almost 43
stray forge
holy shit i feel so young now
vestal hollow
i say this like im not unc either
rapid whale
that's it i'm doing an uwu voice all of kefka until we clear
trim frost
you will break ten minutes in
jolly flume
we're never clearing
dapper zealot
do it
stray forge
lets get a sample in chat
proven pivot
I use a mmo mouse 🟢
I use a regular mouse 🔴
Participation appreciated
jolly flume
where's the option for four foot pedals and a buttplug
proven pivot
where's the option for four foot pedals and a buttplug
Bunny
jolly flume
🐇
loud nymph
what if I use a kitty cat
proven pivot
PLEASE TAKE ME SERIOUSLY i’m switching to pc and its so overwhelming
dapper zealot
where's the option for four foot pedals and a buttplug
do you cheat at chess?
jolly flume
of course
stray forge
I am serious I even use the buttplug mod whenever i play healer
jolly flume
it vibrates once for each rank and then again for each file
loud nymph
I am serious I even use the buttplug mod whenever i play healer
Make sure you get your framework from buttplug.io
proven pivot
I am serious I even use the buttplug mod whenever i play healer
Same actually
jolly flume
hans niemann
dapper zealot
buttplug cheats for UMAD WF
stray forge
https://klipy.com/gifs/futurama-hermes-conrad
proven pivot
Mmo mouse seems pretty convenient i was wondering how do pc players move while pressing skills but i know im gonna fat finger it
jolly flume
you just press wasd with one finger
you still got four other fingers at any given time
rapid whale
Mmo mouse seems pretty convenient i was wondering how do pc players move while p...
you get used to it
loud nymph
Mmo mouse seems pretty convenient i was wondering how do pc players move while p...
you have 5 fingers on the one hand
at least
presumably
jolly flume
also you can offload some of the inputs to your mouse hand if you have side buttons, even if it's not a full set of 12 or something
rapid whale
you can also move with left + right click at the same time to keep left hand free for hotkeys
jolly flume
I use my side buttons as ctrl and shift
stray forge
woulda been reeeeaaal awkward if they only had one hand
proven pivot
you have 5 fingers on the one hand
I have 4 actually :)
rapid whale
yea i use modifiers on side buttons even w/ a mmmo mouse
proven pivot
Just kidding
true beacon
Mmo mouse seems pretty convenient i was wondering how do pc players move while p...
With wasd?
loud nymph
I use an mmo mouse with the buttons bound to f1 thru f12 then those buttons are an entire hotbar for abilities I only use semi frequently
jolly flume
@rapid whale I can't stop thinking about it
stray forge
the plug?
jolly flume
lucius...my faithful servant...
stray forge
oh
jolly flume
no
stray forge
wait
jolly flume
I don't think about my plug until it tells me what the next mechanic is
stray forge
i haven't checked this repository for a while
They have terraria and minecraft integration?
dapper zealot
how does the plug solve weapons?
proven pivot
With wasd?
I know… but like thinking about it I’ll probably use more than one finger to move until I’m like fully adjusted to playing on pc
I actually should get a steam controller
jolly flume
how does the plug solve weapons?
one vibration for cw, two for ccw
true beacon
I mean
stray forge
The plug has cactbot integration
It increases in intensity if scythe is next
Before u can see the mechanic ofc
loud nymph
putting the ultimate in ultimate weapons
true beacon
It’s not hard
To move
When I’m moving my finger is usually glued to right click
For my camera
loud nymph
pretty nice recovery there
dapper zealot
if I need to burst while moving, I hold left+right click to move
stray forge
My gnb uses controller
jolly flume
I'm sorry to hear that
stray forge
Vro walked off the platform like 6 times during m12sp1 Thursday
true beacon
pretty nice recovery there
It’s a favorite of mine yeah
proven pivot
I'm sorry to hear that
:(
Controller players are goated
||Especially if they play on a handheld like me||
stray forge
I can’t wait for the Nintendo switch 2 passport check integration
proven pivot
Sometimes I type stuff in fc chat so I can press up and send it again in party chat when duty pops because I have to hold my steam deck w one hand and type using my other hand
I’m airing my darkest secrets because im getting a pc soon
random needle
controller players cant flame people in chat between gcds
I'll put down the controller and type stuff between GCDs sometimes
If I'm especially spicy, I'll let my GCD drift while I do it
tulip wraith
if I need to burst while moving, I hold left+right click to move
lowkey same
shy obsidian
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL MY MACROS
thin fox
[burps] n-no idea!
amber fable
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL MY MACROS
Sounds like someone fucked up somewhere
true beacon
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL MY MACROS
When was the last time you backed up your settings
raven prawn
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO ALL MY MACROS
rip, have fun doing them all again
this is why we back up our settings
undone tide
man the way people talk about tbn has convinced me that this game will never be easy enough
shy obsidian
When was the last time you backed up your settings
Oh yeah i forgot i could do that
Ngl i feel like this is a good opportunity tho
My macro menu was a MESS
and uh. This might be a good excuse to start using the command thing
raven prawn
man the way people talk about tbn has convinced me that this game will never be ...
yeaaah that happens in many mmos sadly, i just hope ultimate remains the way it is. the last scale of difficulty for the game and not cleared by all
undone tide
ultimate will never change
less than 1% or so of the community actually does it
and most people who don’t go out of their way to do them will never touch the content
i have hopes that evolved mode will provide a low skill floor but with high skill ceilings
main issue i see with evolved mode atm is it actually being too flexible
like, as a paladin player of 6 years im going to be very sad to see fight or flight go
like what if fight or flight existed but it had a different cooldown from imperator
proper cave
If anything it'll just get baked into confetti
amber fable
Idk 2 ogcd for buffs isnt that super brain usage
undone tide
if we’re going to have flexible burst cooldowns we should also need to align our cooldowns
undone tide
i don’t think that’s enough of a problem for people to complain about
like if fof is 60 and req is 40 you get 2 reqs in fof every 2 minutes and you have one req for free use
undone tide
you only do that if you know it gains you a usage
what’s the problem if we have niche fight dependent tech
-18 fof was never necessary to do good damage
undone tide
oh i’m aware
tall field
like if fof is 60 and req is 40 you get 2 reqs in fof every 2 minutes and you ha...
Will there be any coordination?
undone tide
what
amber fable
Party buffs are no more
undone tide
there’s no reason to sync buffs
amber fable
So why would you align
undone tide
except for bard’s thing
tall field
Pld has none
undone tide
also we have stacks of most of our burst tools so if there are a few 10s buffs that appear sporadically you just adjust
tall field
So i doubt any others getting
amber fable
Assuming they give jobs multiple self buff
undone tide
Pld has none
so imperator is a self buff
tall field
It has fof effect baked in?
amber fable
We dunno
tall field
IR giving surging tempest bufg
amber fable
They didnt showed the tooltip
proper cave
The footage they showed us was the earliest they've ever previewed anything.
amber fable
So we cant say anything for certain
proper cave
And some of it felt more proof of concept than final design
dapper zealot
I am absolutely certain that there
undone tide
absolutely certain that what
dapper zealot
that yes
undone tide
of course
rapid whale
copium : we didnt see level 110 abilities and they just showed us the level 100 kits as evolved even though the characters were level 110
tall field
Pray new tank isnt picto situation
shy obsidian
silly you, thinking physical ranged jobs have rights ahahahhaha 🥲
undone tide
if the new tank is judge i have absolutely zero qualms with it being a lock in party comps
proper cave
Yeah both originals
tall field
if the new tank is judge i have absolutely zero qualms with it being a lock in p...
I wont mind that
If drk becomes the goated off tank in 8.0
Lets see
I just want the tank to have shield
Like pld does
If thats confirmed i m gonna learn that since archetype fantasy and all
Something tells me devs will ensure between war, drk and gnb drk will hold the defending title of best ot but lets see
thin fox
huh
apparently if you kill brute justice before gavel goes off you insta wipe
interesting
brisk scarab
apparently if you kill brute justice before gavel goes off you insta wipe
Doing morbol stuff too?
thin fox
oh no i meant in tea
torn kindle
oh no i meant in tea
Is it those guys that are spinning every boss in ultimates
I’ve seen clips of them doing it for DSR Thordan 1 + 2 and how the boss freaks out the instant they hit 1hp
thin fox
no it was just a mistake in some tea clip
where dps wasn't paying attn and killed bj super early
shy obsidian
SURELY all that undyeable dungeon gear we've gotten for all those patches will have their models stolen for crafted gear so we can DYE IT
..maybe not the mistwake stuff tho
i can't see that being demoted to crafted gear
dapper zealot
waiting for raid and tome gear to become outfits
raven prawn
how long does that typically take?
finite plank
next expac
meager hawk
As an AST, do you prioritize critical hit, spell speed or piety in melds?
valid solar
As an AST, do you prioritize critical hit, spell speed or piety in melds?
check this link for the set that will work for all 4 healers
meager hawk
God I hate how this website is formatted but thank you
fierce matrix
Never touch Piety
meager hawk
I touch Piety every day and she said she likes it.
dapper zealot
Never touch Piety
I'll pentameld piety just for you
fierce matrix
Easiest way to think:
Spell/Skill speed to tier => Crit Hit => Direct Hit = Det (Most classes are this way, but some change how the priority works)
This is the general idea
Obviously there is exceptions to this case, but for a majority of your classes this is the case
meager hawk
I know how to meld / priority but I was wondering for AST specifically since it felt a bit slower than my WHM when sharing sets
undone tide
i wouldn’t say never touch piety but it is generally not advisable
meager hawk
I’m not at PC so I can’t get the exact times but I melded spell speed and it feels fine now
fierce matrix
The last time I melded piety was ShB
Well, you wanna make sure you meld the correct spell speed
then adjust the rest to crit
undone tide
i melded piety in ew for pf
fierce matrix
and then det/dh
fierce matrix
i melded piety in ew for pf
Id rather do more damage cause have you seen the idiots in PF
undone tide
“have you seen the idiots in pf”
fierce matrix
i have too many resources in savage anyway
undone tide
saying this to a 6 year pf war hero 
fierce matrix
piety aint doing shit when I have 3/4ths my cooldowns at any time
LOL same brother
same
undone tide
i just picked up sage for aspho pf because i wanted to
slapped a little piety on for safety and parsed low 90s just by pressing buttons
fierce matrix
im never gonna do that
if I need piety to clear the party shouldnt kill imo
id rather just leave and not clear with that party cause I dont wanna carry sandbags
fierce matrix
nah i dont want to release shitters into PF
cause think of it like this
the less bad people clearing
the less bad people in my reclears
undone tide
you know they’ll just find another group to clear with eventually
fierce matrix
yeah but im not gonna be that person
tall field
Will evercold make not named crit/dh useful for tanks?
fierce matrix
and I want them to get stuck in other parties and possibly quit/get better
fierce matrix
thats every class LOL
undone tide
tank bis usually has some det melds
rapid whale
we love stat tiering
fierce matrix
even first tier was like this
undone tide
who wants to carry my washed ass back through 12 to get my weapon
fierce matrix
ngl we haven't had to meld a det materia since EW thinking about it
thats kinda crazy
the only time we have melded anything different was our tenacity materia this tier LOL
undone tide
i literally never check my melds until i get full bis
i just vibe that shit
i want to do a weapon showcase in my house but it sounds very annoying
valid solar
I touch Piety every day and she said she likes it.
must be a different piety than the one im thinking of cause I cannot imagine anyone finding that psycho from PoE appealing
valid solar
must be a different piety than the one im thinking of cause I cannot imagine any...
well except for the duelist ig but the duelist is a different kind of psycho so it checks out
valid solar
Chat do we think this guy will clear
versed kayak
At this point they're probably the problem
dapper zealot
Look in the mirror 🥀
loud nymph
and tell me what you see
valid solar
1700 pulls of uwu?!
wait I realized I didnt get the expanded image, they're trapped on p2 50%
loud nymph
wtf
loud nymph
1700 pulls and not even reaching gaols
this is like, advanced shittery
I choose to believe it is shopped
for my own sanity
wicked delta
I know a guy who has been progging since 2018 and hasn’t made it past goals
Gaols whatever
Point is I believe it
dapper zealot
Gayols
loud nymph
Point is I believe it
trim frost
1738 ay
pale gale
chat i have a question
trim frost
what question
amber fable
Ask question
trim frost
man i feel like more than half the tracks on the growing light album are taken from elsewhere
amber fable
Ff4 music
pale gale
what question
so lets say you want to make a raid group but you dont have anybody else, but you see 12 f2p players eager to play any hard content sync so you join them and train them to do old savages. So, when the time comes when they have synced all of the hard content plus ultimate, you then pay their sub money for the current expansions and more to raid current tier, isnt that kinda op
pale gale
shadowbringers?
amber fable
No
pale gale
oh wait i forgot
trim frost
nop
pale gale
but still
amber fable
No ult in trial
pale gale
savages
grim parcel
any ultimates
trim frost
they specifically barred that to prevent rmt
amber fable
Savage yes
grim parcel
what is rmt i forgor
amber fable
It can help
grim parcel
ff14 free trial is insane
amber fable
But doing latest stuff is better
pale gale
what is rmt i forgor
real money trading
amber fable
If you wanna do latest stuff
pale gale
But doing latest stuff is better
thats why you pay their sub and dlcs
would you do it
hypothetically
pale gale
cause the exact scenario is happening on the discord server for free trial
i was in
some guy is willing to pay them f2p trial player to do current savage with him
amber fable
When i started my high end journey i immediately started with latest raid tier
As a complete noob
pale gale
When i started my high end journey i immediately started with latest raid tier
same but im not that desperate to clear the tier
amber fable
Old content can help but it dont make that much of a difference
pale gale
Old content can help but it dont make that much of a difference
i could do ultimates since during that time i wasnt a f2p player
as i accidentally put the full game
pale gale
Old content can help but it dont make that much of a difference
but to see someone even paying up the deluxe edition and 90 day sub just to raid is kinda
ehh
extreme?
trim frost
some guy is willing to pay them f2p trial player to do current savage with him
pay me and i'll be whatever you want for 60 minutes
pale gale
pay me and i'll be whatever you want for 60 minutes
only 60 minutes?
this guy is willing to go 90 days sub
bruh
we aint even on the same server
worldly grotto
Cause they find that content more interesting and fun to do?
amber fable
Interest
It is a thing too
Just cuz someone can do ult/savage dont mean they wanna do it
tulip anvil
honey B lovely
worldly grotto
It's not a conspiracy, some people just don't find certain content fun
tall field
Why not both
It depends on interest of the field op they are associated witj
Some like and would invest in Occult South Horn
And do forked
Some would be like
Na not my type
I am hoping we get busted af builds in north horn
Allowing for some wild stuff
Like how bozja had
Not play it safe and meh
jaunty pulsar
I need to do dzemael darkhold for the gc, does it count unsynch you think?