#endgame-lounge

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whole estuary
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they did?

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pelupelu?

zealous meteor
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yep

whole estuary
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I never even tried to go in

remote gate
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you could enter their houses?

whole estuary
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from what I could see from videos, they don't actually make the interiors lala sized

zealous meteor
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yeah they're more femra sized

whole estuary
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they have normal height ceilings and make tiny doors

tepid briar
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me: lol how bad could fru be

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also me: why is the fru guide an hour long

amber fable
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So lala houses still need stool to fix ceilings

whole estuary
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yep

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a real lala sized house would just murder the 3rd person camera

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you can do it with player housing and have fun clipping through 3 floors of objects

rapid whale
tepid briar
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lowkey I might rather prog fru than uwu

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healing uwu is so annoying

rapid whale
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your biggest problem is once kum is out everyone srs is going to be doing it

tepid briar
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I have cure 3, cure 3, cure 3, and cure 3

amber fable
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Just get 7 other gamers and clear it in a day

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Kum?

tepid briar
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kum.

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kefka ultimate mad

rapid whale
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so pf for other ulties are practically dead

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kefka ultimate mode

tepid briar
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close enough

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so I need to finish m12

rapid whale
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if you want to be "on curve" yes

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you also need full bis

tepid briar
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"lf kefka party never done an ult before"

rapid whale
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well at least 790

tepid briar
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full bis is nbd I can just lm

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though prices are probably gonna skyrocket next week

rapid whale
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how do i put this

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im just going to share an anecdotal story

amber fable
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I joined a top desrust party and I was blind ..group was fine with me and we saw p1 enrage in like 40 min

tepid briar
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yeah not happening unless I find a super super super super casual static that's gonna take an expansion to clear

rapid whale
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a Friend of a Friend ™ couldn't really do fru because whenever they'd join they would get kicked

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in PF

tepid briar
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well makes sense

rapid whale
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do you want to know why

tepid briar
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lol I'm not gonna pf it

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they didn't have an ult clear?

rapid whale
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it's not because they didn't clear an ulti, no

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well that was also true of them

random needle
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Were they in 690 gear

amber fable
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Ult pf is pain

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Unless you do it within first few weeks

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Of release

rapid whale
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their total parses combined across the entire lhw tier didn't make it to green

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if tha tmakes sense

random needle
amber fable
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Takes time to form and even more time to get prog

tepid briar
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holy fuck.

tepid briar
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okay I'm not that bad at least

amber fable
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Not yet atleast

tepid briar
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I got 76 for m11

rapid whale
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yea thats absolutely fine

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the reason I bring it up at all is he is the only person in my exp (admittedly not much since dt baby) that has ever actually been gatekept

tepid briar
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I'm at 785 and I mostly need:

  • mnemonics for weapon, have solvent already
  • one more piece of m10 gear
  • whatever augments the ring
rapid whale
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as in "the community practically refuses to let them even attempt the content" kinda gatekept

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not "my resume not good enough for a static" type shit

tepid briar
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yeah the people doing week 1 are sweaty

amber fable
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Must have some shit tier gameplay

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To get gatekept that much

tepid briar
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wait what class were they

rapid whale
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warrior

tepid briar
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oh dear

amber fable
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Like i have seen bad play but people dont gatekeep

tepid briar
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grey tank

amber fable
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I have seen a war who always single digit parse

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Since abyssos

tepid briar
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need to beef up my 9 and 10

rapid whale
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idk if oyu did light heavyweight but

tepid briar
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I didn't unfortunately

amber fable
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And that tank still gets into pf

tepid briar
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I started this tier

rapid whale
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does the phrase "chain lightning" mean anything to you

craggy marsh
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I can't say i've ever experience someone being gatekept beyond the usual static rejection thing

amber fable
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Single digit is 0/1 btw

tepid briar
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passport checking pf is wild

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but then again

amber fable
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Not even above 5

rapid whale
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it's very normal for early ultimate pf

tepid briar
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yeah probably week 4+ wouldn't be that bad

random needle
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I'm hoping I can manage the one more clear of m11 I need for a 790 weapon this week

I tried a couple weeks ago but got horrendous mental and had to stop, and last week I was traveling and didn't feel like raiding on steam deck, but I think it's doable this week

tepid briar
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at least once there's an actual guide out

rapid whale
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even now in ultimate pf if you prog lie out your ass you probably get kicked

craggy marsh
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I'm ngl the "passport check!!!" stuff is kinda cringe in pf

amber fable
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Just dont suck /s

tepid briar
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I remember there was someone here last week who was like

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"did I earn this uwu weapon"

rapid whale
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1 or 2 mechanics ppl usually let slide but

tepid briar
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"I kinda got... piloted"

craggy marsh
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Like I fully get why people do it

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but idk man

zealous meteor
rapid whale
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if you're on like phase 2 and join a phase 4 or 5 party yea ppl gonna kick you even today on an older ultimate

amber fable
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I had uwu rdm in m11 today and that guy had 83% uptime

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With no deaths

tepid briar
amber fable
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Uwu players man

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Fraud legends

zealous meteor
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they stopped replying once everyone was like "either clear it yourself or stop using the weapon, if you don't want people to comment"

rapid whale
tepid briar
craggy marsh
tepid briar
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on an alt job.

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and they messed up every mechanic

rapid whale
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smile ive done that before

zealous meteor
craggy marsh
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I remember joining a bunch of FRU parties that were P4 prog when I was on P3 enrage

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host said it was fine

rapid whale
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OKAY BUT LIKE

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SUPPORT PRIVILEGE

amber fable
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Play multiple role

craggy marsh
amber fable
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For max availability

craggy marsh
tepid briar
amber fable
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Legend weps dont mean much

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You can have top wep but if you die 3 times to silly shit

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I will side eye you

random needle
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PensiveCowboy my bad

craggy marsh
amber fable
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Its hardest ex mech

random needle
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Okay listen, chasers are hard man

amber fable
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I am ngl

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I cant do it

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Stupid ass orb tether

tepid briar
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I hate naught hunts cw-ccw but that's just me

rapid whale
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this is gonna sound cope but

tepid briar
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just because it's so easy to space out and go OH SHIT IT TURNED AROUND

rapid whale
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there reaches a point you check out so insanely hard on normal content lol

zealous meteor
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expecting me, a trans person, to deal with chasers, is transphobic,

tepid briar
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at the same time I think enuo is one of the easier ex's

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just because it's super telegraphed

amber fable
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It is

random needle
amber fable
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Super free

tepid briar
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no random bitchass spreads like train

amber fable
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I have yet to see enrage on enuo

tepid briar
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OH BTW YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SPREAD

rapid whale
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or like alliance raid

craggy marsh
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expecting me, a gay person, to deal with mechanics, is super homophobic and I will be contacting the local authorities

amber fable
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And we memed the fuck out of it

tepid briar
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also

amber fable
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Still killed it

tepid briar
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adds phase is ridiculously lenient

thin fox
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Enuo has the benefit of being an off-patch extreme so the gear helps a lot. Apparently it hits like a truck at minimum item level.

amber fable
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It hurts

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Even at 786

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I have died to lack of eels

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Where da eels at

tepid briar
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yo I got my purple who wants me sungl

amber fable
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But its also super free

tepid briar
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it's definitely savage

amber fable
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So its fine

tepid briar
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trust me bro

amber fable
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I should do shinryu..

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But i feel lazy

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I wanna wing it blind

tepid briar
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I might join some parse parties next week if I have time

amber fable
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I remember some mechs of it

tepid briar
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need to get my m9 and m10 to purple hopefully

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if I can do m11 purple

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I can do m10 purple

rapid whale
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m10 parsing is mostly about understanding how to cleave

random needle
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I don't really care about getting purples, I think my goal is just >50

tepid briar
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I'm a healer

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which means I have to babysit everyone

rapid whale
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"my team is why i'm hard stuck bronze"

tepid briar
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also I still haven't gotten my timings down for blood lily

random needle
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I think I have 65 in m9 and 64 in m10, my best logged m11 is 13 but I feel like every clear I have in that fight had Some Bullshit happening

tepid briar
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every time it's snaking in m10

amber fable
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I got 100% uptime with 785 ilvl but its still green...

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I suck at game

tepid briar
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I always have a 50% feeling that cone is gonna go the wrong way

rapid whale
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yea theres a lot of "close your eyes and pray" mechanics lmao

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arena split is another, both m10 and 11

tepid briar
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92% m11 is 75 apparently

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with 82% dia uptime

amber fable
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I was bard

tepid briar
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you better have 100% uptime as bard bro

amber fable
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Should have done mch

random needle
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I always end up holding my breath in m10 arena split because I'm just waiting to die to damage

amber fable
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Would have gotten purple

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Probably

tepid briar
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all their shit is instant cast

random needle
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And m11 split, I always glance at the party list waiting for someone to explode when damage goes out

amber fable
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Arena was clean today atleast

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Overall the run was fine

rapid whale
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oh yeah it's reset tonight yay i get to play the game again

amber fable
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But as always the player with lowest uptime gets all loot

tepid briar
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OH BOY

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I CANT WAIT FOR M11 RECLEARS

amber fable
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Age old adage

tepid briar
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SURELY EVERYONE WILL BE COMPETENT

random needle
# tepid briar and stampede

I fucked up stampede so bad a couple weeks ago and it's still haunting me (I went left instead of right with a tether)

amber fable
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Stampede you can fuck around a lil

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As long as healer are alive and can lb

random needle
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We ended up getting a <1% enrage and I felt so fucking guilty

amber fable
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Main thing is boss better be below 13% when heartbreak starts or its gg

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One more clear of m11 and i can say goodbye to it forever

random needle
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It also bugged me that wtfdig only shows the final tether positions on the normal ecliptic graphic and not fixed ecliptic, when I also still want the fixed ecliptic 4-way bait spots, so I kitbashed them together for next time

amber fable
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Thank god i got puddle

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I lowkey forgot whats the prio for range

rapid whale
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idgi isnt that fixed

random needle
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I loooooove puddle

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Both fixed and standard have the same movement for tethers, but on wtfdig specifically, if you're showing the fixed images, it doesn't show the final tether positions, which stupidly is what got me bad enough last time to make that mistake

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(I took the center of the left image (4way spots) and slapped it on the right image (tether positions))

rapid whale
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ic

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just learn the mech 4head

jolly flume
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I hate fixed stampede

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cry about it melees

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i'm using my eyes

random needle
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I think this is what's happening in my brain and it causes just enough hesitation about where I should go to cause Problems (yes, I know which one is the correct one, but when my mental is frayed and I have to react under pressure, there's a high chance I do a stupid thing)

tepid briar
random needle
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I think a big part of it is that my mental in general got absolutely toasted a couple weeks ago and it led to me panicking in moments I had no reason to. If I'm able to just keep my head on straight it should be fine

rapid whale
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I always say raiding is just as much a fight with yourself as the boss

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Lord knows I've fucked up bad

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Staring at a tank buster on top of me

craggy marsh
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everyone has those times where the fuck up a mech they normaly wouldn't

random needle
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Usually if a TB is on me, it wasn't my fault, but it's more funny than anything at that point

rapid whale
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nono it was during p5 topyesterday lmfao

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major mech resolve into telegraphed tb and i just kinda

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tood there

random needle
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Pffff

jolly flume
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he's standing

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he's standing

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he's standing

rapid whale
jolly flume
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he's standing there...

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I even SAID

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buster be away from the tanks

rapid whale
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they did LMFAO

jolly flume
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he hates me

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i'm muted

rapid whale
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i have 0 excuse obv but i think in that moment i was thinking, for whatever reason, we'd just stay on the side we resolved mech but like

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even if that were the case move away from the tb

craggy marsh
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blame the tanks

rapid whale
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i blamed phsy range yesterday for me being a chort and literally just seeing the arena wrong, that was bad too

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gaslight gatekeep getkickedfromthestatic LMFAO

craggy marsh
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kicked for being too cute

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I know the feeling

dull drum
rapid whale
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im acting brand newwwwww

random needle
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It's probably for the best that I'm not progging TOP 💀

dull drum
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nah deadass TOP is free (at this point)

rapid whale
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the fight is free yet alas i am in debt..

dull drum
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i still have like 14 TOP totems i have no idea what to do with

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even if i got a weapon for every job i think i have like 3 extra

craggy marsh
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I want a TOP clear bc everyone and their mother puts it as a requirement for joining statics

rapid whale
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top is fun

dull drum
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i didnt even do it on patch i did it on expac though SAD

rapid whale
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most fun fight in the game

craggy marsh
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I like it

dull drum
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6.5 ulti PF was a fun time

visual geyser
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Some funny datamines

craggy marsh
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I just hate how I can't find a group that wants to stay together once we get to P5

rapid whale
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ah yeah makes me wonder like since we get kum how long the time period between kum dying down and next expac there will actually be for the ulti pf to pop off

dull drum
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i think ulti pfs actually been doing ok atm actually

craggy marsh
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depends on how hard it is

dull drum
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since everyones bored out of their fucking mind

jolly flume
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dude i'd be so happy to not play ff for the next six months rn

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minecraft is eating my life away

dull drum
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situation with me and warframe rn

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on fashion crack after getting the nulwarden

jolly flume
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we're mid pull in top and i'm thinking about how to set up my next automation line

dull drum
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and prime sure footed in 5 days Gladge

stray forge
worn bluff
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i haven't played this game much in the past few months and it feels nice

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do i even enjoy this game?

jolly flume
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where's the hatred

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the vitriol

wicked delta
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the pain

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the loss

worn bluff
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we cannot suffer it again

stray forge
jolly flume
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true

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he is white after all

rapid whale
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IF THIS PARTY CANNOT BE MY CLEAR, THEN NAUGHT IN EXISTENCE HOLDS ANY MEANING

jolly flume
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that's a little shitter mentality, don't you think?

rapid whale
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OUR PARTY DISBANDS...

jade nimbus
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bro, why is installing ff11 its own boss fight with multi step phases

jolly flume
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Bapple Trees flowercute Gilgamesh >> never join my party again you griefing fuck

wicked delta
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bapple would never say such a thing

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it cannot be true...

rapid whale
worn bluff
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TIL the JP VA for meteion/endsinger also voices frieren and anya

wicked delta
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why did you think ff11 would be different

jade nimbus
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xiv is way easier, imo

sleek moon
whole estuary
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you either have no problems installing FF14 or all of them

jade nimbus
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like nowadays you just install the launcher for ff14

jolly flume
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ff14 is like 1990s software so 11 gotta be some ww2 analog punch card shit

wicked delta
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thats what im saying

rapid whale
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flash back to me as a kid not knowing about different parts, only to find out after like a 30 hour download that my PC could not actually run FFXI

wicked delta
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you're installing something from the stone ages

tough gorge
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if you're playing ff11 you basically need a controller

rapid whale
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it's like extracting the venom of a prehistoric bug inside of amber to make a pain killer

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eeeeeeeeee disagree

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i never used a controller in all my time on xi

stray forge
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i will never use a controller

we make do

tough gorge
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then again I haven't even made it out of san doria yet on the xi private server because I have no fuckin clue what I'm doing kekL

jolly flume
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every time anyone brings up 11 I start thinking about jponry again

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cracks me tf up

worn bluff
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everything in FF11 is harder than FF14

jolly flume
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DO U JP ONRYSTAND?

tough gorge
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I made a mnk and I'm getting my ass mauled by worms outside san doria because for some reason they can cast stone and that does 1/3 of my hp

wicked delta
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i just think of bapple telling me about some bullshit that happened back then bc the devs are sadistic fucks

tough gorge
worn bluff
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your character can't even 1v1 a random enemy in the overworld

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you're not the WoL you're just some random NPC

jolly flume
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whatever the opposite of mc syndrome is

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npc syndrome

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expendable side character syndrome

tough gorge
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even the "guides" on the private server's site don't offer that much help in terms of getting started or getting my bearings

zealous meteor
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i do think that playing with kbm is suffering
but playing with just kb is fine

rapid whale
tough gorge
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I mean

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the rabbits tell me the exact same thing

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and they do 0 damage

zealous meteor
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you can easily beat the enemies just outside the gates

worn bluff
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you can't even teleport to fast travel unless you have a WHM

tough gorge
wicked delta
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bapple trees

stray forge
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thats bc bunnies r nice

wicked delta
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i request your advice

rapid whale
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sup

wicked delta
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mr bapple trees

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if i wanna make a char on xi do i need someone whos a higher level player to be with me

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or am i fine solo

zealous meteor
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no

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you're fine solo

rapid whale
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uh

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just

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play a private server ngl

wicked delta
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also whats the hottest race bc i dont wanna be ugly

rapid whale
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its xi everyone is ugly cuz u have like

tough gorge
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the free trial is getting bigger soon for 11 so

sleek moon
zealous meteor
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i haven't partied up once and have gotten like 5 jobs to 99 and done three full expacs worth of story neofox_floof

jolly flume
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I don't think they have au ra in 11

rapid whale
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4 customization options and thats it

wicked delta
worn bluff
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yeah there are no hot races

tough gorge
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I guess private server is good enough for a first run

jolly flume
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so basically everyone is ugly

wicked delta
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wallahi im finished

zealous meteor
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do private servers have trusts though

tough gorge
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the character creator runs on a completely separate engine btw

worn bluff
jolly flume
tough gorge
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and the character creator looks way better than the actual characters do

random needle
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You will be chopped and you will like it

wicked delta
zealous meteor
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i'd just play retail tbh. there's a lot of qol there that private servers won't have

zealous meteor
jolly flume
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imagine erping with that

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man

tough gorge
wicked delta
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i know what it is

sleek moon
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its crazy ffxi is only 2 years older than wow

tough gorge
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character creation vs ingame look btw

wicked delta
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i am saying that bc she looks ugly as shit

sleek moon
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but it looks like it stayed behind in 2002

zealous meteor
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your options are human, elf, lala, miqo'te, and roegadyn with a tail

they are all painstakingly rendered in the best possible PS1-era graphics

wicked delta
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oh HELL nah

tough gorge
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wasn't there some guy that admitted to jorking it to the mithra character creation cutscene on a youtube video

random needle
jolly flume
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wow is ugly af but at least it's modern ugly af

tough gorge
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there are some ppl that do like mithras that much so

wicked delta
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how am i gonna play if my character is that ugly

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im finished

rapid whale
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thats the neat part you dont

sleek moon
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put a paper bag on

zealous meteor
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play a tarutaru so you get the urge to punt yourself after every cutscene

worn bluff
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i'm ngl even though i played FF11, i felt zero hype about any of the alliance raids because everything in that game is ugly AF

random needle
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Honestly the humes might be the best looking characters and that's. Shocking to someone like me

worn bluff
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there's barely anything i feel nostalgia for

sleek moon
jolly flume
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I remember watching a clip of 11's ark angels after doing jeuno in 14 for the first time and I couldn't even tell if anything was happening

sleek moon
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because everything else is... acquired taste

jolly flume
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it was like 18 people standing still with things popping up in the chatbox

wicked delta
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well now im curious

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to google i go

random needle
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11 combat is nothing like 14 combat

wicked delta
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okay

rapid whale
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you had an input maybe once every 20s on xi

wicked delta
rapid whale
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but the timing was extremely important

jolly flume
sleek moon
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it took me years to like sylvari, i thikn they are fine now

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but i found them gross back then

rapid whale
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yeah xiv is evolved xi eVolVed

wicked delta
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the norn look cool

sleek moon
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charr are furry bait, norn are just bigger humans

whole estuary
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eXoIVed

sleek moon
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asura would be ok if it wasnt for the creepy shark teeth

wicked delta
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oh my heavens you werent kidding

jolly flume
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is that a playable race

whole estuary
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That's Charr and Amuro

wicked delta
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yes

jolly flume
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ew

rapid whale
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amuro like the gundam pilot?

random needle
wicked delta
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something is very wrong

whole estuary
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euuagh

random needle
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EW

jolly flume
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ewwwww

random needle
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GET IT OFF MY SCREEN

wicked delta
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bro

jolly flume
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that's so uncanny valley

timber stratus
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asura > lalas

wicked delta
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these ugly as hell

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no wonder most play humans

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

timber stratus
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Charr is the best

random needle
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Holy hell those things make the antitower dolls look cuddly

visual geyser
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I learned the other day that you can’t be black in ff11

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Which I found pretty funny

visual geyser
whole estuary
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They remind me of the US desperately trying to make cute things in the 80s and coming out with stuff like Trolls and Cabbage Patch Kids instead

jolly flume
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they took my melanin bruh 💔 can't have shit in final fantasy

whole estuary
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and Furby

sleek moon
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also the charr players always wear the most ridiculous shit

rapid whale
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furby unironically creeped me out as akid

whole estuary
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Goku!!

zealous meteor
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XI combat is... weird
it's closer to old FF games?
where it's more about buffs/debuffs and using your abilities at The Right Time than rolling a gcd and sending things off cooldown
and there's no real positioning after a fight starts

thin fox
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ff11 is just old school mmo

visual geyser
wicked delta
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if im playing im choosing sylvari bruh

visual geyser
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Ew man

zealous meteor
visual geyser
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Why does that game look like that

sleek moon
whole estuary
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wuh

jolly flume
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ew

visual geyser
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Xi looks better than gw2

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Holy

clear plume
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I think furries should stop being appealed to thoughts

sleek moon
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they all look like walking lightbulbs

worn bluff
# jolly flume it was like 18 people standing still with things popping up in the chatbox

to get certain bis items for your LS you had to:

  • track the time of death of an overworld boss
  • send someone out to the spawn point beginning 21 hours afterwards for 3 hours
  • boss randomly spawns at each 30 min mark in that 3 hour window and you have to spam an attack to claim it before other people
  • if you do, you have to kite the boss around and not die while 17 people spend 15 mins sneaking past enemies to get to you
  • if you don't your LS still shows up in case the other LS dies
#

actual amount of gameplay: 0-1 hours

visual geyser
whole estuary
#

completely unacceptable gameplay

zealous meteor
visual geyser
#

Why does the game have a constant bloom effect on

whole estuary
#

"Please schedule your life around me" design

jade nimbus
#

ff11 is less action and more like grind/rpg from my understanding

visual geyser
#

They should make a version of ff11 where you can experience the game without playing it

wicked delta
#

@sleek moon can i have big tiddies in GW2 this is important please answer

visual geyser
#

Because the lore and story sounds so fucking good

sleek moon
#

ok this is the last one i can find

visual geyser
#

Fucking cloud of darkness just ||gobbled universes up ||

whole estuary
#

their clothing is very MMO

rapid whale
#

wait do people c tha about xi spoielrs the game is literally odler than you

zealous meteor
#

grief spoilers

sleek moon
#

not on sylvari though, you'd have to go human female or norn

visual geyser
#

I care

#

Thx

whole estuary
#

I do not

jolly flume
visual geyser
#

Cmere

rapid whale
#

you saw nothin

brisk scarab
#

how long does it take to play ffxii story

visual geyser
#

12

whole estuary
#

not super long

zealous meteor
#

i'm already past that luckily neofox_googly_shocked but yea please mark spoilers past like, the base game probably?

brisk scarab
#

I kinda wanna play it now because of the raid

visual geyser
#

They are buffing the free trial

#

Should be a decent time

whole estuary
#

maybe 20-40 hours if you are chill

wicked delta
#

I GUESS im playing as a human.

brisk scarab
#

is there raiding like in ffxiv

rapid whale
#

oh yeah you can solo the story now with trusts

brisk scarab
zealous meteor
rapid whale
#

i forgot about that

worn bluff
random needle
#

And the trust system (along with a fuckton of other early boosts, like RoV) makes it a lot easier to go solo

visual geyser
#

Kicked for playing DRG

worn bluff
#

loldrg

visual geyser
#

Isn’t that the meme

rapid whale
#

dawg it could sometimes take like 3-4 hours just to travel to the new levelling spot, and if you die otw? lol

worn bluff
#

yes loldrg was a meme

visual geyser
#

DRG had to wait for a party

#

Why were they so bad?

whole estuary
#

because being unplayable increases job identity

rapid whale
#

its cuz DRG's 2 hour ability was summoning their wyvern, if it died you were basically not a job

zealous meteor
#

the story isn't super long, it's the handful of tedious quests that drag it out
after around 240 hours i've finished the base game, first three expacs, and am about halfway through the fourth
but i've gotten sidetracked a LOT. you can easily do it in half that time

jolly flume
#

2 hour ability

#

fire

zealous meteor
#

they're one hour abilities now

brisk scarab
#

THERES HOUR LONG ABILITIES?

zealous meteor
#

fucking nerfs <//3

brisk scarab
#

what kind of mmo is ffxi

worn bluff
#

basically things that are 2-7 minute cooldowns in FF14 were 2 hour cooldowns in FF11

zealous meteor
jolly flume
#

old mmos are more of a job than actual employment

rapid whale
# jolly flume 2 hour ability

your raid night would literally end after a certain number of pulls due to EXP loss on death, so you had like 6 chances per night

worn bluff
#

only PLD had an invuln and it was on a 2 hour cooldown

brisk scarab
#

CaitThinking Maybe I'll play ffxi after I finish clair obscur

visual geyser
#

I Miss when MMOs hated you for playing them

worn bluff
#

NIN's 2 hour ability was literally just to blow up and die

whole estuary
#

They're chock full of those anime MMO ideas that are like "wouldn't it be cool and immersive if we did this?" and there wasn't enough industry experience and competition for someone else to say "no you dumbass"

sleek moon
#

there are people playing XI private servers just to relive all this mess

brisk scarab
#

wait, all current expansion for xi are only 10 dollars on steam rn

worn bluff
#

the only part of FF11 gameplay i liked was skillchains and magic bursts. certain combos of abilities/spells that did a bunch of extra damage

brisk scarab
rapid whale
# visual geyser LMAOO

to put it into XIV terms it would be like if sch faerie could take dmg, and if it died you just couldn't use anything faerie related for 2 hours like dissipation etc

lost sinew
#

beastmaster has sort-of-skillchains right?

clear plume
#

There r people nostalgic about all kind of games that are unplayably bad by modern standard tbf

lost sinew
#

in 14 i mean

visual geyser
#

Yes

clear plume
#

Like the original tomb raiders

visual geyser
#

It does

lost sinew
#

that's fun

brisk scarab
#

wait am I dumb

rapid whale
zealous meteor
#

XP loss on death before endgame is massively nerfed now, btw
even at lv99 you'll only lose like 1000 XP on death, if you release back to your home point

once you start getting master levels the punishment is back in full force, but nobody in this chat is gonna get to that point haha

rapid whale
#

and the blue pyramid tits

clear plume
tough gorge
#

every mmo has private servers with very old versions

worn bluff
#

imagine the chaos if regular jobs in FF14 had skillchains. like someone else uses an ability and something flashes on your hotbar

clear plume
#

For a game that wants a decent amount of combat it’s really fucking bad

rapid whale
whole estuary
#

Even Wildstar?

rapid whale
#

wildstar was ahead of its time

brisk scarab
#

real talk, would I enjoy ffxi only storywise or is the game at least decent

lost sinew
#

i like it when an indie game has tank controls. its neat.

tough gorge
#

even my childhood kmmo does, and one of the biggest private server networks for that plans to release a server that will last 7 years+, going thru every version from 2003 to 2010

whole estuary
#

I've heard it mentioned positively a few times

sleek moon
rapid whale
whole estuary
#

my impression is "it had everything you could want except existing"

clear plume
#

They press no buttons on god

rapid whale
sleek moon
#

running a parser in gw2 is actually depressing

rapid whale
#

i heard gw2's ultimates are like extreme level in xiv at best

sleek moon
#

you have like 30-40 people "attacking" a boss and doing like 2k dps while 6-7 people do 40k dps

tough gorge
#

gw2 doesn't even have ultimates afaik

#

gw2 has raids and that's it

lost sinew
#

i gotta get into this game

clear plume
#

Who wants to play my ff12 modpack sometime though that’s the real shit

jolly flume
#

i've always been told gw2 raids are easy af

zealous meteor
#

i'm having.... some. fun. in XI
but once im done with the story i'll probably unsub

sleek moon
#

they are easier than 14 raids

#

and they dont release new ones often

brisk scarab
#

So ff11 with all expansions is a relatively short story?

tough gorge
#

looking back at my gw2 character she's so fucking dead inside compared to my wol

sleek moon
#

but old ones are relevant forever since level cap never goes up from 80

tough gorge
#

gw2 also has no photo mode btw

whole estuary
#

that makes sense

jolly flume
#

gpose is highkey what keeps this game alive

sleek moon
#

gpose was only added to 14 because it was some dev's pet project that he worked off the clock

tough gorge
#

gw2 (when I still had my dogshit laptop) vs xiv

zealous meteor
sleek moon
#

there's so much shit we have in 14 that only exists because some dev was bored and working on it on their free time

whole estuary
lost sinew
sleek moon
#

this game always had a budget issue lol

tough gorge
#

you can't even mod gw2

lost sinew
#

not a majority ofc but its wild

whole estuary
#

hmm

tough gorge
#

gw2 only has addons/plugins and that's it, no actual mods like xiv does

whole estuary
#

I didn't expect glasses to fit poorly on a human face, of all things

clear plume
#

I can’t blame se for not investing too heavily into it after it already failed once at the start though

brisk scarab
vestal hollow
whole estuary
#

they're the baseline, if you can't fit anything to them, just give up

clear plume
#

But the mid hw recruitment surge was def needed yeah

whole estuary
#

you're done as a modeler

visual geyser
#

GW is really hard to look at lmao

tough gorge
visual geyser
#

How have they not done a graphical update yet lol

rapid whale
# lost sinew i gotta get into this game

the first alliance raid (jeuno the first walk) was a reference to how once you hit level 20 or so you had to make a journey to jeuno, the central hub of the game. to get there on foot was like an hour long but the thing is there was monsters that would 1 or 2 shot you along the way, resetting you back to home town. depending on your luck (eg mob spawns) it could easily take liek 4 hours. it got to a point where player escorts were a p common thing eg pack of 10 level 20's pay some high level ppl say 50k gil each to walk them to jeuno

#

diff kinda game

brisk scarab
#

aga I wanna face ff11 absolute virtue

visual geyser
#

Probably nerfed now

sinful scaffold
visual geyser
#

Modded

tough gorge
tough gorge
sinful scaffold
#

Ah that makes sense 😭

lost sinew
zealous meteor
jolly flume
#

if you ever see something that looks particularly good or high quality in ffxiv

sleek moon
#

if you want that kind of jank in single player/coop version

jolly flume
#

the answer is always it's modded

brisk scarab
#

wait, is the ff11 map actually huge LOL

zealous meteor
brisk scarab
#

is it not smaller zones with teleportion sections to the next

jade nimbus
#

tbf you can tell cause none of the modded stuff fits the way the game looks

zealous meteor
#

it is zone based like 14

rapid whale
#

fast travel was not rly a thing in xi no

zealous meteor
#

but the zones are pretty big

jade nimbus
#

iirc you had to actually wait hours on air ships

rapid whale
#

it probably is nowadays but

jade nimbus
#

now they removed it

zealous meteor
#

and yeah fast travel wasn't a thing for the longest time
but nowadays there's home points and survival guides everywhere

brisk scarab
#

Imma take advantage of that steam sale and buy the game

rapid whale
#

xi very much asked you to live in their virtual world

jade nimbus
#

it is one of the games of all time

sleek moon
#

id wait for the expanded free trial tbh

jolly flume
#

I should buy dead as disco

zealous meteor
#

airships arrive like... every 15 minutes ish?

jade nimbus
#

you can buy the game now and activate it later tbf

sleek moon
#

new trial gets you to 75

lost sinew
tough gorge
#

my childhood kmmo has fast travel but ofc it costs money, the further you are from the intended destination the more it cost
and it also had this strat for humans

brisk scarab
#

Is the free trial time based, or lasts until you buy the expansions

random needle
#

There's a lot more QoL in the game now, but it definitely still feels like a way older game than XIV

jade nimbus
jolly flume
#

you're so old

tough gorge
jade nimbus
#

but you also only can do base expac stuff

tough gorge
jade nimbus
#

oh, lmao

#

2 hours to download the game data

#

gg ff11

#

not today I guess

rapid whale
#

lineage was the first time i heard a story abt someone dying over a video game

jolly flume
#

bapple I'm gonna be like you one day about 14 and that scares me

zealous meteor
worn bluff
tough gorge
#

yeah ppl took lineage very seriously, both 1 and 2 ngl

jade nimbus
#

you gonna tell people about how good we had it in ffxiv or how shit the fight design was

#

tbf mmorpg like ff11 are relic of another time

worn bluff
#

also to return to your home point you needed a BLM to cast Warp II on you

rapid whale
#

TLDR you had a chance to drop your equipped items in lineage (idk about 2) so if ppl camped you they could literally just steal all your shit and someone was really happy because they upgraded their weapon to a stupidly high degree and got camped until they lost it and they uhh Found Them ™ irl

jade nimbus
#

nowadays mmorpgs are a dying genre

tough gorge
#

oh yeah that was a thing in VERY early versions

jade nimbus
#

mostly cause there are so many more games/someone time is that much more valuable

jolly flume
#

well with how games are going nowadays maybe they won't improve enough that I can complain about 14

tough gorge
#

I think in either C4 or C5 they got rid of that?

jolly flume
#

lol

brisk scarab
#

I hope the expanded trial is soon, the whole game down to 10 dollars from 30 is such a deal

tough gorge
#

and the private server I was playing on was on C5, I think they might be on interlude at this point

jade nimbus
#

tbf just get it, and store it for later

whole estuary
#

Yoshi P probably slaps the devs everytime they make a hair with a filesize above 8MB

jolly flume
#

you guys remember when games ran reasonably well on sub-top tier hardware at launch

jade nimbus
#

insert modbeast post

rapid whale
jade nimbus
#

probably

tough gorge
worn bluff
#

even with FF14 being way more streamlined than FF11 i find myself not wanting to spend that much time in it. prefer games that i can just jump in and out of immediately

jade nimbus
#

ffxiv is prob gonna last another good 5 to 10 years at this rate

jolly flume
#

bapple if I am still on xiv in like 15 years I will find the nearest suspension bridge and do a backflip

tough gorge
#

even PKing enough players made you drop your gear on death

clear plume
rapid whale
#

that one asian unc streamer exists

tough gorge
#

and some ppl got insanely op stuff off of that

dull drum
rapid whale
jolly flume
#

my kids wouldn't cause a wipe

#

i'm gonna train them from infancy

tough gorge
#

I think it was only for you, the PKer

jade nimbus
#

now the question is

clear plume
#

My ex fiancée told me that teaching our kids league at 6 years old wouldnt be good for them

worn bluff
rapid whale
#

but yea a lot of old kmmo the friction wasnt from the content but from the pvp elements, i think aion leaned into that the most

jade nimbus
#

if I download ff11, can I just close the window, and it at least keeps half the files downloaded thus far

tough gorge
#

yeah lineage and aion were really pvp focused above all else

jolly flume
tough gorge
#

hyper marathon games with huge pvp focus

worn bluff
#

"so when you finally beat the boss you moved on and did other stuff right?"
"well...."

sleek moon
sleek moon
#

its a very ancient piece of software

clear plume
worn bluff
#

"you see after we beat the boss we would kill it every week for a chance at loot. and then sometimes we would kill it more just because"

"because you found it fun?"

"well no"

clear plume
#

We still friends tho

zealous meteor
clear plume
#

I was around wow for the discourse around them adding dungeon finder

sleek moon
#

"back in my days we had to go to north shroud to raid because you couldn't queue into savage"

clear plume
#

And how it’ll kill the game

#

Fallgourd float was a banger afk spot tbf

jolly flume
rapid whale
#

we've all heard of the parse monkey but have you heard of a parse orangutan

#

what of the tales of the parse gorilla

zealous meteor
#

endwalker though

jolly flume
whole estuary
#

Furious Parse Rajang

jolly flume
#

parse primate

shy obsidian
zealous meteor
#

teleport to anagnorisis > fly for 2 minutes to the gates of pandaemonium > walk all the way to the end

clear plume
#

Wasn’t too bad back then, adding cross world queueing just meant they had to stop doing it

rapid whale
sleek moon
#

dude late for raid rushing through elpis to get to panda

craggy marsh
#

Time to Sub my Nautica till I 2

rapid whale
#

oh yeah that game came out huh

clear plume
#

Early access

whole estuary
jolly flume
rapid whale
craggy marsh
whole estuary
#

same people who like arbitrarily waiting 15 minutes just to travel between cities on a boat

sleek moon
#

i heard a few bad things about some forced pacifism stance they took compared to the first one / below zero

stray forge
#

Babe wake up time to afk at the jeuno summoning stone

sleek moon
#

you cant kill anything even if it's harassing you nonstop

jolly flume
#

like I can now call toby a homo florensiensis because they were an island hominin species that was famously short as fuck

craggy marsh
#

You get a hammer that stuns things I think

jolly flume
sleek moon
#

hammer and flares distract them for like 5-10s and they go back to attack you

jolly flume
#

oh yea

craggy marsh
#

Good enuff

sleek moon
#

seems poorly thought out

jolly flume
#

I saw reddit blow up about that

jade nimbus
#

Just wait for mods for that /s

#

Tbf iirc you didn't have weapon in subnautica 1 too

craggy marsh
#

Ya I assume they'll add a way to actually force them to leave you alone at some point

sleek moon
#

wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being the most downloaded mod lol

#

killable creatures

clear plume
#

In 1 you had the heated knife

craggy marsh
jade nimbus
#

But you could still knife fishes and wrestle the leviathan with the suit

jolly flume
#

like even in the original subnautica killing was mostly a pain in the ass and not worth it but if you were REALLY dedicated to solving a boneshark problem or something you could do it

clear plume
#

Which was specifically to do more damage than the regular knife

jolly flume
#

I thought that was a pretty good way of handling it

sleek moon
#

its not even leviathans tbh its everything else

clear plume
#

And shit like ur drill damaged creatures

jolly flume
#

it also cooked fish when you killed them with it

sleek moon
#

if you bonk anything enough times in the first game they leave you alone

stray forge
#

What’s subnautica

jolly flume
#

which was the good part tbh

sleek moon
#

but here they never do

jolly flume
#

didn't have to bring it back to a fabricator to eat it

craggy marsh
#

Subnautica is a drug for me bc i'm scared shitless of the ocean but I can't stop going back to it

#

It triggers my phobia so good

jade nimbus
#

Does the game have not a suit yet?

jolly flume
#

yeah I love og subnautica

sleek moon
#

the whole eating fish thing is funny too, they want you to be a pacifist and not kill things, but you have to eat fish (alive apparently?)

jade nimbus
#

It might do the same here tbh

stray forge
#

That answered NOTHING mango 💢

clear plume
#

It’s ok though, you merge with fish dna to get the capability to do that

jolly flume
#

the fabricator killed the fish not me

#

i am free of sin

craggy marsh
#

There's a story but idgaf about the story

sleek moon
craggy marsh
#

I just like the atmosphere

jolly flume
#

subnautica is underwater survival horror but the horror part is mostly unintentional

sleek moon
#

2nd is EA

jolly flume
#

the ocean is just scary as fuck

stray forge
#

Weird

#

Are you an aquatic species

craggy marsh
#

Nah

sleek moon
#

you're a human

#

trying to leave an ocean planet

stray forge
#

Oh I see

sleek moon
#

thats as far as you need to know

jolly flume
#

I spent three hours a day in a pool for about six years so I might be part fish now

clear plume
sleek moon
#

the rest is better to find out

stray forge
#

So you’re like scavenging

jolly flume
#

yea

#

the planet you're on is like

#

not civilized

#

wild ocean planet

#

and you crashed on it

sleek moon
#

Subnautica is an underwater adventure game set on an alien ocean planet. A massive, open world full of wonder and peril awaits you!Dive Into a Vast Underwater World

You have crash-landed on an alien ocean world, and the only way to go is down. Subnautica's oceans range from sun drenched shallow coral reefs to treacherous deep-sea trenches, l…

Price

$7.49

Recommendations

322097

Metacritic

87

craggy marsh
#

Subnautica is an amazing drug

jolly flume
#

very fun and very scary

#

recommend playing with curtains closed lights off and a change of pants

stray forge
#

Why is it scary GIGACOOKED like jump scares?

sleek moon
#

someone tell me the usd price lol

craggy marsh
#

The second one is multiplayer which means I can trigger my phobia with the homies

jolly flume
stray forge
#

I can’t do jump scares in video games

wicked delta
#

my bf is still trying to get me to play it in VR

jolly flume
#

there's predators

wicked delta
#

basically a death threat

jolly flume
#

not really jumpscares most of the time

#

but that doesn't help

sleek moon
#

that sale is pretty good then, all 3 for $40

stray forge
#

Like I can play bioshock (thriller scary) but I literally uninstalled silent hill 2 15 minutes in

timber stratus
#

PLAY SUBNAUTICA

jolly flume
#

it's the kind of scary you get playing minecraft

jolly flume
#

but scarier because it's underwater

sleek moon
#

just you might find things in the dark and might have to run away

timber stratus
#

i am a wuss and terrified of the water but its a very cool kind of scary where its fear of the unknown

sleek moon
#

and might pee yourself a little

#

but the majority of gameplay will be fine ish

craggy marsh
#

if you piss yourself in the ocean nobody will notice so it's okay

sleek moon
#

and the vehicles you get later on kinda reduce the fear factor

jolly flume
#

yeah most of it is (relatively) chill resource gathering and crafting and most of the shit that will attack you is pretty trivial and can either be smacked away or run away from easily

sleek moon
#

unless you have thalassophobia or whatever its called

craggy marsh
#

From what i've seen Sub 2 has more diverse ecology

#

so that's nice

timber stratus
#

i have that but i actually used subnautica as exposure therapy kinda 😭

jolly flume
#

once you get the final vehicles you're not immortal but it hardly feels like you're in much danger anymore imo

#

because realistically you're not

#

early and mid game is where it peaks

timber stratus
#

the scariest part about subnautica is exploring a zone for the first time and having no idea what to expect

#

but god is the game fucking beautiful at the same time

craggy marsh
#

I still think ||the spot by the Aurora|| is the scariest place in the entire game

timber stratus
#

real

sleek moon
#

oh there is a mod

rapid whale
#

what if someone with thalassowasowoaspawoawphobia became a surfer and ened up becoming godlike because they didn't want to ever be underwater like that

timber stratus
#

i dont really get the whole thing people wanna kill the creatures

#

i just want more ways to fend them off

jolly flume
#

it's more about having options

#

cuz in og sometimes beating off a shark or something was less annoying than having it come back to eat your ass again later

#

and the flares were pretty useless

#

if there's actually better non lethal options I wouldn't care

timber stratus
#

yeah i just dont think specifically everything needs to be killable but thats a lot of what people are shouting for

jolly flume
#

there just aren't really any

worn bluff
#

i feel like the second i got to one of those dark voids going into the deep sea i'd just turn around and never come back

thin fox
#

ok my tip for this game is to never use the in-game data sync

#

because it just

#

doesn't work

timber stratus
#

i think its more fun if they add other ways to fight them off

#

like make some fishes scared of the lights so you flick them off and on to make them turn or some shit

sleek moon
#

id be fine with other ways to get rid of them that isnt killing, but that should have been available from EA release if they were going down this route

timber stratus
#

agreed

jolly flume
#

ghosties

#

;3

rapid whale
#

i always wonder if the whole, "punch a shark in the nose" thing works irl but I'd never want to be in a position to find out yfm

jolly flume
#

do the "get rotated idiot"

loud nymph
#

I enjoyed the shit out of sub1 and am looking forward to buying sub2 once it is out of early access

#

in like 3 years

jolly flume
#

honestly you generate like very little force in a punch underwater anyway

thin fox
#

whichever dev worked on this should be fired from SE

jolly flume
#

idk that it would do much maybe sharks just have sensitive noses

thin fox
#

once again plugin devs ar ethe only people who work on ff14 who know how to code

worn bluff
rapid whale
jolly flume
#

the most scared I got in subnautica was getting jumped by a warper for the first time tbh

dull drum
timber stratus
thin fox
# rapid whale wat hapen

twice now I have reopened the game after using this feature and had my keybinds completely reset

dull drum
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you can copy from one char to another

jolly flume
timber stratus
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ye its happened to me too

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legit a dogshit feature

untold oyster
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I just copy my character config files I don’t trust the features they give

timber stratus
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yup

jolly flume
zealous meteor
jolly flume
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ok that's acceptable

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just feed me regularly

untold oyster
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Btw how many fates would it take to level 🧐

jolly flume
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six se

timber stratus
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67

worn bluff
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this is going to sound really lame but swimming down into the deep ocean to unlock shisui of the violet tides creeped me out

zealous meteor
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nah

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understandable

worn bluff
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i do have pretty bad thalassophobia

wicked delta
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SIX SEVENNNNNNNNNNN

rapid whale
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our dna remembers the hellscape that was early life in the ocean

wicked delta
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its why i struggle with games like subnautica

wicked delta
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im terrified of the deep ocean

jolly flume
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I think if you're not scared of the ocean to some degree you're just built incorrectly

rapid whale
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wow ok that was mean of me mb

wicked delta
jolly flume
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cuz fear of shit that had a high chance of killing you is like

wicked delta
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you're an ASSHOLE

zealous meteor
jolly flume
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supposed to be a feature

zealous meteor
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im telling the mods.

shy obsidian
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i wonder if I'm thalassophobic

wicked delta
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bro just fucking toasted me what the helly

rapid whale
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i am a deuterostome

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thanks google

sleek moon
zealous meteor
rapid whale
thin fox
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no way

jolly flume
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if I discriminate against everyone am I really still discriminating

jolly flume
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it's just equal opportunity hate

thin fox
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said the white mage

boreal pumice
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its true equailty at its finest

jolly flume
shy obsidian
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no seriously for some reason i get unnerved by the deep sea in video games lol

zealous meteor
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hating white mages is natural

shy obsidian
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like i was actually kinda bugging out when I had to unlock the shisui of the violet tides lol

jolly flume
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biologically ingrained behavior

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GOD i hate white mages

zealous meteor
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based based based

wicked delta
whole estuary
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I like that WHM barriers don't overwrite anything

jolly flume
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if I play white mage the pf monkeys can't

whole estuary
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you can at least pick up for their slack instead of being actively sabotaged

shy obsidian
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if i started maining white mage would you guys hate me /j

jolly flume
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I love that sticker

worn bluff
jolly flume
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god bless jp twitter

wicked delta
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its great i use it often

thin fox
shy obsidian
jolly flume
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anyways

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play subnautica

wicked delta
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no

jolly flume
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what doesn't kill you makes you soil your pants

wicked delta
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i am a coward

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i would not survive

shy obsidian
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i'm tempted but my pooter is poop

jolly flume
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I think that's how the saying goes

rapid whale
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wait

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white people in the chat do you yall think eating seaweed is weird

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i was just made aware apparently some find it really weird to eat seaweed

worldly grotto
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I've never had it before

zealous meteor
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like raw or as part of a dish

jolly flume
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what's weird about seaweed

worn bluff
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i feel like most people have had roasted seaweed by now at least

jolly flume
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is it any weirder than eating any other veggie

storm frostBOT
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Warning issued for wonderbrea on Final Fantasy XIV

Reason: dont use schizo in an degratory manner

rapid whale
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?

vast jacinth
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!mute 270811610795343885 6h

storm frostBOT
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Success!

@clear plume has been muted by @vast jacinth for 6 hours!

worldly grotto
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See weed? I'd rather eat it

wicked delta
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well anyway

vast jacinth
wicked delta
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i have never gotten to try seaweed with other stuff

rapid whale
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genuine confusion

jolly flume
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breaking news: local schizophrenic man muted for calling himself a schizo

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heartbreaking

worldly grotto
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I'd imagine it probably tastes salty/fishy

worn bluff
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i could see some people not liking the texture of regular (non-dried) seaweed

jolly flume
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not really fishy

worn bluff
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some of it can be slimy

jolly flume
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regular seaweed is like

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crunchy jello

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idk how to explain

rapid whale
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i wanna try the bull kelp pickles

dull drum
whole estuary
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it's like fruit leatherish

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but seaweed

jolly flume
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idk why it'd be particularly weird either way though

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it's just a plant

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we eat plants all the time

worn bluff
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not as sticky as fruit leather

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it's too hard to describe just eat it

whole estuary
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yeah, slippery

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the thickness and resistance of the bite

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is this seaweed

jolly flume
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that's an insult to seaweed

zealous meteor
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no that's a hyur