endgame-lounge

[visual geyser]

Yuh

They’ll make evolved smn better tho

[teal hill]

https://preview.redd.it/the-original-portrait-of-hiroo-onoda-and-his-brother-from-v0-bdyv4c2bgiuf1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=b3039e180064f88ca122fab782f6db4738a4ddc5

[visual geyser]

I trust that much atleast

Facts man

It’s been 5 years since EW

[tender jolt]

hard fucking doubt but that's just me

[jade nimbus]

It is also why I don't see them changing the pet range, mostly cause it is meant to be the regen for sch, so having to move it around to heal people would feel wack

[visual geyser]

Basically

[rapid whale]

i wonder what the chances r they will delete res altogether to do away with res tax on rdm/smn

[wicked delta]

I remember eating shit and dying in M10 because the healers forgot I existed

[tender jolt]

smn made me lose most of my faith in reworks being better than before

[wicked delta]

[visual geyser]

Doubt

[rapid whale]

yea so with smaller heal range idk

[wicked delta]

Started begging the tank to give me a mit so I could live

It was miserable

[visual geyser]

They might nerf the raises but they won’t remove em no way

[tender jolt]

pivot to WoW style combat raise system

do it, cowards

[jade nimbus]

They said ages ago they wanted to remove ress from smn, but I think rdm will keep it

[visual geyser]

Especially for RDM

[teal hill]

We literally got the guy who made the universally liked PvP rework and nearly all the good Jobs' initial kits.

I think Evolvedi s going to be fine

[wicked delta]

Looking at whm

I disagree

[rapid whale]

i think th at depends heavily on fight design

[wicked delta]

[visual geyser]

WHM didn’t look that bad

[rapid whale]

if it actually leverages the changes evolved mode brings im for it but

[teal hill]

WHM players geniuenly think they deserve to live

[wicked delta]

It looked that bad to me

[tender jolt]

Oh I think evolved will probably be ok

I think smn will find an even deeper level of the bottom of the trash to sink to
It's an inevitability

[rapid whale]

given their track record, the more likely scenario is that the changes are just meant to reduce failure states

[versed kayak]

No it would feel like you actually have to think about it instead of it being a regular regen

[visual geyser]

^

[versed kayak]

For summoner they very well might

[visual geyser]

Scholar at the very least should feel like a pet tactian

[tender jolt]

let me rephrase that for you

it would be a thing possible to screw up the usage of

thus, probably won't happen ever

[jade nimbus]

Mhm, I don't fully agree with that

[versed kayak]

They said they were considering removing smn rez for 7.0 already

[teal hill]

For me the appeal of Evolved is finally getting buttons that aren't just 'fancy-looking high-potency burst'

[visual geyser]

I forgot they wanted to remove smn

[rapid whale]

og smn mains must feel like watching their childhood crush at a strip club

[jade nimbus]

Cause they kinda moved away from the pet identity for sch ages ago

[teal hill]

And so far we have them

[rapid whale]

seeing what has happened to their fav job

[jade nimbus]

But also we'll have to see

[visual geyser]

Yea brd and drg are full of slob buttons

[versed kayak]

I hate that you make a good point :)

[teal hill]

Paladin has a parry, Dragoon has an actual Jump with damage reduction, Bard gets a cool directional jump.

[tender jolt]

the analogies i feel it's appropriate to make are not appropriate for this server

[wicked delta]

I just hope they let people fuck up jobs but as said earlier that probably won’t happen

[rapid whale]

dam

[visual geyser]

Ye think people are playing their job predictions too safe

[rapid whale]

yea rn it seems like "order who gaf as long as you activate it, wanna opti? get it all under your pot"

but we must wait and see

[wicked delta]

Yeah

[teal hill]

Even White Mage got a GCD heal-powered nuke

[wicked delta]

Im willing to let them cook

But I wont pretend I have faith in them

Lmao

[teal hill]

Good, who cares

[wicked delta]

Especially since its 1 fucking guy doing all of it

[visual geyser]

Well it’s not 1 guy lmao

[teal hill]

Obsessing over optimizing rotations is how we got into the 2 minute meta

[tender jolt]

death of summoner was the last bell toll for this

difference between a good summoner and bad summoner in shb was like triple the output
they saw that as a problem that the game must fix

[rapid whale]

?

[tender jolt]

okay i think you need to keep that opinion in the kitchen brother

[visual geyser]

In the sense that it’s not like he doesn’t have a team of people who he’s working with

[teal hill]

"Are the Jobs fun to play?" is the question to be answered

Some Jobs will be more difficult than others

[wicked delta]

Devs allergic to letting bad players be bad classic

[rapid whale]

im gonna be blunt, do you really think because you are a casual that the more hard core players opinions dont matter

[versed kayak]

and making them brain-dead is a great way to do the opposite :D

[tender jolt]

and the jobs aren't fun to play if there is no difference in skill level between picking it up and having played it for years. next question, please?

[teal hill]

The idea that Jobs right now are not braindead is the biggest meme in the endgame community.

[rapid whale]

nobody is saying that

[tender jolt]

this is the type of logic that got smn gutted in endwalker

[wicked delta]

Who said that man

[teal hill]

Okay, so Evolved won't be worse

[tender jolt]

brother haven't we decided you are not the endgame community

why are you saying these things

[versed kayak]

I liked having to think about my cartridges on GNB, messing it up punished me by overcapping with bloodfest, or missing a cartridge in burst

Now you just press bloodfest on cd and it's whatever

[rapid whale]

flappy bird is a simpler game than super mario that does not mean they are the same thing

[teal hill]

Brother who is we?

Nintendo Wii?

[visual geyser]

Not even remotely thinking about optimization for jobs that are 9 months still in dev

Personally

[teal hill]

Get that clique mentality out of here

[tender jolt]

p sure you said earlier you dont do savages

[teal hill]

Brother thinks he's still in High School

[tender jolt]

but you do do ad hominems

so that's what counts, doesn't it?

[wicked delta]

They said they did Endwalker savages

A few

But not any of the current ones apparently so like

[versed kayak]

I'm just hoping the recent changes they made for jobs were just bandaid fixes and nothing more

[wicked delta]

[tender jolt]

i could cite a few people in here who did one endwalker savage and made it their entire personality

[rapid whale]

i respect the desire to wanna talk about stuff but the lack of exp makes it hard for me to take the opinions srs

[wicked delta]

We wont name names! 😇

[visual geyser]

EW savage and DT savage meh

[wicked delta]

Have you even done DT savages

?

[teal hill]

Who me?

[visual geyser]

Yes???

[tender jolt]

ditto, i value the right to give opinions but if you have no experience with wtf you're talking about you need to stop stating them as facts

[visual geyser]

Tf

[wicked delta]

Yeah you

[visual geyser]

Oh

[wicked delta]

Not trying to be condescending im just curious

[teal hill]

I quit the game in 6.4 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tender jolt]

of course they did

[rapid whale]

drop the tomestone /sarcasm

[jade nimbus]

Side note, I do think VPR is more of a blue print for evolved jobs than what they showed, and I feel like they prob used that as a testing ground to see if people liked it

[rapid whale]

yea same

i think pct/vpr are both prime examples of what we can expect out of evolved

[tender jolt]

'endgame community' my ass. ah well. back to minecraft

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-mihono-bourbon-gif-15260384636123395877

[teal hill]

I wasn't interested in Dawntrail and was burnt out on the game, sue me.

[visual geyser]

Prime designed pct which I find prettt fun

[jade nimbus]

Also I know that breaking 123 combo has some niche on some jobs, but condensing the button into one I think is a good thing overall

[rapid whale]

yea pct is what makes me hopeful

[visual geyser]

Nah man you aren’t qualified to speak

[tender jolt]

that's allowed. there's nothing wrong with that. but respectfully, don't then act like the bastion of good opinions

because you don't have any frame of reference as to what you're talking about

[visual geyser]

But the game philosophy didn’t change that drastically between the two expansions

[teal hill]

What are you even talking about

[rapid whale]

i said it before i knew it was prime but whoever designed pct actually plays the game because it had all the considerations for old ultis in mind when designing their kits; VERY contrary to vpr which doesnt feel like a real job until like 100

[jade nimbus]

Ye, I think PCT and VPR are like the example to look forward to for new jobs

[visual geyser]

If you were a decent player in EW you’d still be decent in DT

[wicked delta]

I also hope PCT is more what they take after than VPR

VPR is just RPR 2 and RPR back in Endwalker already kinda sucked

[tender jolt]

vpr getting its damage vuln removed in week 1 was

a decision

[jade nimbus]

Vpr pretty much has 2 continuation buttons, and the aweken reuses all the buttons you already put on your hotbar

[versed kayak]

They should've kept the picto right-click-your-buff opti /s

[teal hill]

By the way my distaste of the 2 minute meta isn't like

a new thing

[rapid whale]

they should have kept super opo ball

[teal hill]

I didn't like it in Endwalker and I'm glad it's going to be gone

[rapid whale]

i think the disconnect you are experiencing is people arent' debating you on whether or not 2min is good but your reasoning

[visual geyser]

I didn’t like how the 2 minute window felt in certain jobs

2 min on bard i found trash asf

[wicked delta]

Most people here will agree the 2 min meta was either eh or just sucks

Thats not the problem

[jade nimbus]

Tbf I didn't feel that much of a diff overall, cause the job kept playing the same iirc

[visual geyser]

Every 2 minutes you just slam your head on every possible

[wicked delta]

Deleting it entirely feels like a bandaid fix

[visual geyser]

Dying on bard finally won’t feel terrible too

Didn’t even think about that

[wicked delta]

Because jobs are simply not that complex. Evolved mode doesn’t look like it’ll make them much more interesting than what they are now

[teal hill]

You've said this before but you haven't qualified that claim

[rapid whale]

i mean this could be said of any job if we wanted to be reductive lol

[visual geyser]

Not monk

Monk barely has ogcds to press

[rapid whale]

monka

[teal hill]

I've said this before but a good chunk of the FFXIV community doesn't seem to know what they actually want in terms of changes

[visual geyser]

Bard literally has ogcds for the sake of having them and could be removed and no one would care lol

[wicked delta]

I think my position has been pretty clear from the start

I want friction

[versed kayak]

Would be neat if monk just had the chakra gain of brotherhood but constantly

[wicked delta]

I want something to fail at

And I simply don’t see it happening

[rapid whale]

that goes against like all design choices for the last 5 years tho ye

[teal hill]

Again I'm not really sure what that means

What does friction mean in this case?

[versed kayak]

same, which also includes not having auto combo but that's a lost cause already

[teal hill]

Wht does 'failing' at your Job mean?

[wicked delta]

I don’t have hope for evolved mode whatsoever because devs are likely not interested in creating friction, they just want everything to be accessible to every player

[dusk sky]

…man you’re trying to propose changes without having played the game in 3 years

[rapid whale]

however you played them

jk obv

[visual geyser]

you meant it

[rapid whale]

nuh uh

[wicked delta]

Yeah you totally meant that

[versed kayak]

drifting your bard song for example and now it's drifted for the entire fight

[visual geyser]

People liked that?

[teal hill]

So, exactly as it is right now?

[dusk sky]

Honestly I noticed a like… how to phrase it, between EW and DT my %’s falling off, averages and such. I guess I blame tiers being cleared quicker and more and more parse runs being done

[visual geyser]

I personally hated dying on bard and my songs being an absolute mess but different strokes

[versed kayak]

basically, which is getting removed it looks like

[teal hill]

So does this mean that right now is the point in time where FFXIV's Jobs have the highest amoutn of friction, because a single drift can screw up your entire DPS profile?

[visual geyser]

Bard is one of the biggest offenders of the 2 min meta absolutely fucking the job

[teal hill]

And if that's the case

Why do people complain there's no friction?

[rapid whale]

i would argue this is the more common opinion, at least as perceived by SE, hence why the jobs are changing as we've seen

[teal hill]

You can't have it both ways.

[rapid whale]

no lol

[wicked delta]

Gunbreaker’s rotation getting mega fucked if you didn’t time your cartridges . Hell, if you wanna go back to something even older, you should lose your combo if you don’t hit your positionals

[rapid whale]

this is prob the lowest amount of friction in the history of the game

[versed kayak]

well that's mainly a bard thing

[wicked delta]

Thats is literally only bard

[versed kayak]

most other jobs don't really have that

[wicked delta]

Every other job has had their friction removed

In this very expansion

[visual geyser]

Monk kinda has it

[rapid whale]

not compared to ew mnk

[visual geyser]

Dying can fuck up riddle of fire and brotherhood

[tender jolt]

because most jobs take about 5 minutes to learn the rotations to and even then that basically amounts to just press the glowing button

Sole remaining exception is maybe samurai and monk, and even then

[visual geyser]

Which is annoying as fuck

[wicked delta]

They lobotomized monk in DT compared to what it used to be

[visual geyser]

Meh

Still fun

[tender jolt]

Most jobs are impossible to play badly

Short of not pressing buttons

[wicked delta]

Not saying you cant find it fun

But it is what happened

Lol

[rapid whale]

its just almost every job has examples of them taking out friction points

[dusk sky]

I mean what is “friction”

[versed kayak]

They've just turned it into press glowy buttons which is sad

[tender jolt]

And the developers see it as their duty to ensure that people can't play it badly

Instead of simply allowing some people to be bad at video games

[versed kayak]

and still didn't fix PB at 50, at least evolved will fix that

[visual geyser]

It’s a hard balance because friction to someone is really fucking annoying to other people

[teal hill]

That's what I've been asking and I don't see any answer to it

[dusk sky]

Other than, say, how much they’ve stripped out BLM’s failure points

[rapid whale]

points where your decision making tree has more circumstantial things to take into account or a dps loss

[boreal pumice]

you should do mentor roulete , tobi knows your find some very intresting ppl to say the least

[teal hill]

Because so far the answer to what 'friction' is

[wicked delta]

What Bapple said

[visual geyser]

Like sometimes “friction” is literally just jank

[tender jolt]

i enjoy my mental wellbeing

[boreal pumice]

for the best

[teal hill]

is just making a Job have arbitrary things that punish not playing literally perfectly.

[versed kayak]

sure, which can be fun sometimes

[rapid whale]

fr whenever tobi talks about mentor roulette i just tell myself tobi is a freak fr for doing it

[visual geyser]

Depends really it’s a hard balance

[teal hill]

Like combos dropping from not hitting positionals

[versed kayak]

I'd call some things on SCH jank but they're still fun to play around

[wicked delta]

My bad

[visual geyser]

Like moving out of TENCHIJIN was friction

[versed kayak]

there's also bad jank though, not all jank is good

[tender jolt]

Jobs having skill expression is a good thing

It is something to do

It gives a reward to being good at things

[teal hill]

From what we've seen, Evolved literally has this more than the current system

[boreal pumice]

i must be a bigger freak since i finished it

[wicked delta]

You move left or right and you also have TN. There’s no reason why you should struggle with that shit at max level content unless your tank is trolling you

[dusk sky]

Man I hope Evolved SCH puts most the healing on the faerie

[visual geyser]

Am I upset that you can cast TENCHIJIN while moving tho?

Not really personally

[versed kayak]

true, but having it cancelled due to high latency when you stopped moving on your screen was bad jank, so I'm torn on that

[rapid whale]

false

[tender jolt]

Jobs having no skill expression whatsoever (smn) is bad

[visual geyser]

Agree!!

[teal hill]

How is this false?

[tender jolt]

Because why would I ever bother

[rapid whale]

the only decision making in the evolved rotations is whether you're banking for a pot, based on what has been shown so far]

but again we are sorely lacking info

[teal hill]

How is that worse than what we currently have?

Genuine question

[wicked delta]

Never do mentor roulettes

[versed kayak]

sam can kinda get fucked over in M4S during cannons before P2 because it's burst and you have a million positionals

If you're always infront of her you run out of TN pretty quick

[dusk sky]

Atp i’d be also be super curious about Evolved AST, like uhhhh,

[tender jolt]

evolved's mission statement to be streamlined is literally counter to the idea of making active decisions but not like we've seen anything

[dusk sky]

If it’s still a ST buffer wouldn’t it need to be loosely aware of all its parties’ dps kits to know the best time to card ‘em

[teal hill]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, either that or I'm the only one here who actually lookd at Evolved footage with any analysis

[tender jolt]

i'm thinking it's the former more than the latter, brother

[visual geyser]

We get another card rework 100%

[rapid whale]

i think the angle you're seeing is "that already happens" which is true, but other things also happen in the current system

[tender jolt]

Maybe astrodyne comes back for another expansion

spin the wheel! see what we win!

[visual geyser]

Astrodyne was fucking awful

[rapid whale]

to put it another way, in the current system you might have gcd routes a b and c, in evolved mode it's just a

[visual geyser]

What a bad system

[tender jolt]

yeah I know its just funny

[versed kayak]

astrodyne was only fun in casual content when nothing else was going on

[visual geyser]

All this arguing when we have only seen them attack a striking dummy is funny

[teal hill]

Except no you don't, because the rotations are just flat spreadsheets that barely change from fight to fight.

[dusk sky]

On the contrary, isn’t it streamlined inputs for higher expression

[rapid whale]

things like moving a 2min back by a whole 1min to align with your 3rd pot

yeah okay

this is where your lack of exp is showing

[tender jolt]

They may have said that but I struggle to see how. then again not like there's been anything to see

[teal hill]

I ask this geniuenly, how is this different from banking a burst

[rapid whale]

literally the first fight of the tier changes what you're talking about lol

[visual geyser]

I can see things like DRG having to do left and right positionals get really interesting depending on the fight

[tender jolt]

and you would know this how

[vestal hollow]

me when i say we should probably just wait and see and get tarred and feathered for it

[dusk sky]

I liked how on paper the two seal buff was stronger than the three seal buff but parse mind demanded you go for 3 always

[rapid whale]

because the decision as to whether you do it or not is dependent on the state of the party and the pull

[visual geyser]

Right? How tf can you make statements like there’s no opti to be done without seeing a single fight yet 😂

[rapid whale]

as opposed to just banking your own resources and timing it when it's most convenient for you

[teal hill]

So is banking a burst

[rapid whale]

again, it's about the idea that you have to take more data points into account when coming to the decision

[teal hill]

The only variant here is 2 minute buff windows

[tender jolt]

Like someone we won't mention striking a blow against the Parsers for ripping tech step on the bubble in m10 in week 9

[vestal hollow]

i love being forced to experience people's headcanons

[visual geyser]

Lmao fax

[rapid whale]

eg a party with low dps on m9s was encouraged to go for a triple pot, push back the 8min to 9

[jade nimbus]

Also cause I doubt pld only got a single blocking skill for example, imo

[rapid whale]

but a party with good dps wouldnt wanna do that

[wicked delta]

Because people look at changes they have done in the past and will judge accordingly

[teal hill]

And I hate to say it but 2 minute buffs are just a 'is everyone playing their Jobs correctly' check

[dusk sky]

Fair, as it stands/from the jobs previewed at NA, BRD is kind of the only one that really looked… well defined? to me

[jade nimbus]

Since they want to do a MT or OT split

[wicked delta]

If people recognize patterns they will judge from that

[jade nimbus]

And everything else is kinda the same

[wicked delta]

Jobs objectively have gotten easier compared to what they used to be

There is no denying it

[dusk sky]

Like Evolved BRD is Evolved’s best foot forward atm, wth is Evolved DRG

[visual geyser]

It is pretty funny to see someone completely out of the 2 min window

Or noticing someone not using their raid buff lol

[wicked delta]

People don’t have a reason to believe it’ll magically change with EC

[rapid whale]

like the way you are arguing all of this sounds a lot like, "meat is meat, you apply heat"

[versed kayak]

I wish they wouldn't have mentioned that without actually showing what it means

Because that split cannot be as major as people make it out to be

[jade nimbus]

(Also the new cover is worse than the old cover tbf, but it might be used in dual tank tank busters I guess)

[tender jolt]

especially because this design team is almost always predictable to a fault

[teal hill]

Also something that Mr. Prime said

[rapid whale]

and sayign there's no difference of beef to goat to fish etc

it's just ignorant

[teal hill]

Is that they want to move away from the concept of building Jobs that have 'one correct way to play'

[dusk sky]

You Drift You Die

[visual geyser]

You drift and you play the most unfun game ever

[jade nimbus]

Mhm, well, if they want to go as far as defining a split, I think we might just not have the full picture of how the jobs will play.

[wicked delta]

I don’t blame people for dooming when I look at changes from the past lmao

[visual geyser]

Dooming 9 months in advance can’t be good for the heart

[tender jolt]

s u m m o n e r

[wicked delta]

Im willing to wait and see what they’ll do but again, I am not going to pretend I have hope that its going to be fun

[jade nimbus]

Like pld will probably be different from what they showed

[teal hill]

God FFXIV veterans are insufferable

[wicked delta]

Then leave or something man

[versed kayak]

Since 4 man content like criterion and q40 exists + sometimes tank swaps requires swapping for more than just 5 seconds, the difference can't be that huge

[visual geyser]

Be the reborn player you were born to be

[teal hill]

"Nothing Ever Happens" the fanbase

[tender jolt]

And so are people who yap about things they have no knowledge of but that's just life isn't it

[vestal hollow]

why do you default to being an asshole lmao

[visual geyser]

All I’m seeing in chat is that the devs were genius for keeping reborn in the game

[rapid whale]

LOOK IN THE MIRROR~ LOOK IN THE MIRROR~ LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE

[dusk sky]

It’s funny how much Evolved as whole just looks like “we gave Mr PvP the keys to the building and he may have set bombs around a couple floors”

[rapid whale]

oh wait you don't get the reference

[tender jolt]

snrk

[wicked delta]

Bapple’s trying to have a good faith conversation with you for the most part and this is how you respond?

[teal hill]

I'm not replying to Bapple

[dusk sky]

Mr Prime casted Demolition Deathmatch on standing job design

[tender jolt]

'in case of counterargument break glass'

• sign on the box that contains the ad hominems

[vestal hollow]

i was told i was a ragebaiter last night so i think its clear this person just wants to fight rather than have a remotely constructive conversation

[teal hill]

Do you think I've just been in complete no contact wtih the game ro something

[rapid whale]

idk evolved can be fine, im coping and convincing myself the hidden 100-110 stuff will change things

[wicked delta]

Thats how it feels to me lol

[rapid whale]

i think you've never been in contact with the game at a meaningful way at all, yes

[visual geyser]

Thank god for Reborn

[tender jolt]

Well if you quit in 6.4 then that's exactly what you have

Watching your favourite strummer doesn't count as having an opinion of your own

[teal hill]

"Good faith conversation"

[dusk sky]

EC’s job actions trailer is gonna be an hour atp,

Or an extended media tour

[teal hill]

[wicked delta]

As per your own admission you barely did savages

You’re mostly an EX player

[versed kayak]

hopefully they just split it up into separate videos

[visual geyser]

Real

[rapid whale]

ex player is like someone who plays aram thinking they can analyze the world's finals

[visual geyser]

They should but I think it would kill hype wouldn’t it

[dusk sky]

Hey now,

[teal hill]

Appeal to personal experience.

[dusk sky]

Are we talking EX2 or EX4 player

[rapid whale]

played football while drunk with the family thinks they know better than the coaching staff of world cup teams

[tender jolt]

like some wow player who watches MDI thinking they have to w2w magisters terrace in their +3

[wicked delta]

Endwalker EX player

[visual geyser]

What savage did they stop at is more important

[teal hill]

I did all the Endwalker Extremes other than Rubicante (and Zeromus but I wasn't subbed hwen it came out)

[versed kayak]

like unrelated to the media tour or whatever, just as replacement for the current videos we have showing off the jobs, just do one video per job so it's easier to navigate

[rapid whale]

is this not what you've been doing this entire time

[visual geyser]

Oh yea fair

[teal hill]

Do you even know what appeal to personal experience means

[visual geyser]

I think they do the job action trailer live tho

[rapid whale]

do you?

[vestal hollow]

and this is equivalent experience to having beat arcadion how?

[visual geyser]

So it’ll be hard

[teal hill]

When did I ever say taht?

[visual geyser]

They did savage didn’t they

And he didn’t say that tbf

[teal hill]

Again just making up arguements that weren't made

[dusk sky]

It’s like, is Round Table on PLD a 101-110 skill or an evolved pre-100 skill

[teal hill]

I know how you people play at this

[dusk sky]

[rapid whale]

"you people"

dog whistle weewoo

[visual geyser]

Show them your logs bro

[versed kayak]

oh, I guess keep the current style then but release separate videos afterwards

I just want something to point people to when they ask about which job to pick or can't decided between two jobs or something

[tender jolt]

Because you're the only one who's right and everyone else's wrong, right, how could I forget

[visual geyser]

Post logs so we can dog pile

[wicked delta]

I am never wrong ever

[visual geyser]

Yea having a 2 hour video gets rough lol

[rapid whale]

insinuating i could be wrong is tantamount to racism therefore you are all racists /s

[tender jolt]

Considering they said earlier that optimising rotations is a bad thing I wouldn't be surprised

[wicked delta]

But hey if you hate this chat so much then feel free to leave lmao

[visual geyser]

Damn bruh

[teal hill]

When did I say that?

[wicked delta]

Regulars aint going anywhere

[visual geyser]

Stay

[valid solar]

chat I just got here what are we arguing about today

[dusk sky]

Please, my logs have definitely gotten worse over the tiers of Arcadion

[teal hill]

I said the obsessioni with optimization above everything else is what caused the 2 minute meta

[visual geyser]

Don’t let them boss you around

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed--k01KRTZJMEB0A1ZXBPWTJ3MSVWV

[vestal hollow]

so guys who wants to see some dogs

[wicked delta]

Me irl

[valid solar]

I got a 6hr mute for that

[vestal hollow]

i dont think this guy wants to talk constructively

[tender jolt]

right here! glad to help

[wicked delta]

Nobody wants to see your FEET

[rapid whale]

right but you've also been extremely vocal about how much you hate the 2min meta lol

[teal hill]

Okay, I ddi say that

And?

[tender jolt]

brother I don't owe you an explanation to your own yap lmao

[vestal hollow]

look at this gentleman

[tender jolt]

call me an ad hominem or move on

[rapid whale]

mmm yes very distinguished

[vestal hollow]

go back to shitpostxiv

[tender jolt]

oh wow he just looks like that

[dusk sky]

[visual geyser]

THe evolved combat system is gonna be the best thing ever bro

Thinking about the forum content

[vestal hollow]

where are yours?

[visual geyser]

That media tour is gonna be so spicy

[tender jolt]

this is a creature that appears in my home sometimes we call him The Muncher cause he eats plants in my garden

[vestal hollow]

yes he is very fierce

[rapid whale]

i showed you my dog plz respond ahh msg

[dusk sky]

Surely WHM evolved being healing forward means fight design with realer heal checks

[teal hill]

It's just really funny seeing the usual jaded veterans get preemptively mad at Evolved Mode

[dusk sky]

[rapid whale]

who is mad

[visual geyser]

That’s what reborn is for

[dusk sky]

That’s average old people fearing change tbf

[wicked delta]

Im not even a ver

Cer

Fuck me

Vet

[vestal hollow]

ok

[visual geyser]

People will actively avoid using reborn because of a damage loss

[wicked delta]

NO

[vestal hollow]

lemme in toby

[rapid whale]

get fucked tobi

[dusk sky]

Back in my day we had accuracy

[teal hill]

Good, the future is now old man

[dusk sky]

And TP

[tender jolt]

honestly if EC launches with an intended damage disparity between reborn and evolved I really have questions

[visual geyser]

Gonna be funny seeing people torment themselves over evolved when they could play reborn

[tender jolt]

that shit is a miserable idea

[teal hill]

It's simple really

[visual geyser]

Well if one mode is more fun to you than the other

[teal hill]

They want you to play Evolved

[rapid whale]

im p sure they already stated they intended for evolved to be stronger

[wicked delta]

Why does an OW server have an Uma pic

[teal hill]

Otherwise they wouldn't say Evolved is stronger

[visual geyser]

Who cares about the damage difference

[tender jolt]

yeah I know they said that but some ideas are best left in the kitchen

[rapid whale]

lmao

[wicked delta]

It matters to raiders lmao

[visual geyser]

mmo players the only people to purposely make themselves suffer in order to have a higher fake number

L O L

[wicked delta]

Its like taking not pre nerf PCT into FRU

[teal hill]

Reborn existing is a temporary bandaid for crotchety old players who hate change

[dusk sky]

For now I’m definitely assuming the damage difference between the two isn’t that wide, and is compensation for Evolved having more fluid rotations or a higher reward for “being played well”

[valid solar]

they did say evolved would have a slightly higher damage output but they'd make sure content would still be clearable with a full reborn team

[wicked delta]

You may not like the job but who cares how you feel

[tender jolt]

are you even trying anymore

[dusk sky]

I do, however, expect that gulf to be wider down the line, but not so much at launch

[teal hill]

It's literally that

[rapid whale]

heck i expect them to fully delete reborn by 9.0

[vestal hollow]

kids these days. cant bait to save their lives

[visual geyser]

If the damage difference is minimal (doubt) and people still would torment themselves to play something they don’t like with a viable alternative I’ll laugh at them

[teal hill]

Like it's not an opinion, they stated that the only reason Reborn exists is to avoid a Star Wars Galaxy situation

[visual geyser]

Because it’s a game at the end of the day

[wicked delta]

I expect reborn to be deleted as well

So I wont bother playing it

[visual geyser]

That’s made up

[teal hill]

They fully intend Reborn to be gone if Evolved goes well

[tender jolt]

like I feel like this is scraping the bottom of the barrel no

[wicked delta]

Unless the job seriously sucks in evolved

[dusk sky]

I don’t know think they’ll ever remove Reborn, but I doubt it’ll be updated in 9.0, hence a wider damage gulf between the two modes over time

[wicked delta]

They’re totally deleting it

[teal hill]

https://yt3.ggpht.com/QoyXdg6ByFliNWaRXp1sbKTPcrhUKCJ6zZhSmXZ9qb4nyuG5tk2G30qS_FkmVCAaKoOXeBCXUnboLQ=s1024-nd-v1

[visual geyser]

How you so sure

[rapid whale]

tobi is actually from the future

[dusk sky]

Not til data limitations forces them, it’s at least there to satisfy old blood

[wicked delta]

Its just so they have more wiggle room with reworking evolved jobs

[visual geyser]

Oh

[teal hill]

We agree on something at least

[wicked delta]

If an evolved job sucks

[dusk sky]

PS4 is dying to keep Reborn mode alive /s

[wicked delta]

Players can go to its reborn mode

[teal hill]

My bet is

[visual geyser]

Real!

[wicked delta]

So they have something to play

[teal hill]

10.0 is going to be when Reborn is gone

[visual geyser]

Ye

That sounds more likely to me

[wicked delta]

Otherwise they would’ve nuked reborn as soon as the expac releases

[visual geyser]

Killing it the expansion directly after is silly

[teal hill]

MAYBE earlier if Evolved goes abnormally well but

[visual geyser]

^

[teal hill]

10.0 is the conservative guess

[visual geyser]

This is a very conservative dev team

They aren’t gonna boot shit that quickly

[rapid whale]

how long until we get FFXIV:ARRR to bring back reborn mode

[wicked delta]

I dunno

[tender jolt]

arr classic

[vestal hollow]

[wicked delta]

They rework certain jobs every expansion

Dunno if they actually give that much of a shit lol

[teal hill]

I will say one thing hwoever, and that is I think keeping their Evolved sets to 16 buttons is a bit too little for comfort.

[dusk sky]

Ya’know one of my crazy theories lately is they initially started on the color picker for gear but decided coding equipment on that was too much so settled on consolidated dye

[teal hill]

18 would have been better

[rapid whale]

what is ffxiv mobile for 500, alex

[dusk sky]

And moved color picker to character creator

[wicked delta]

If evolved is a success I think they’d rather get rid of reborn as soon as possible

[tender jolt]

ima be real with you chief I have No Fucking Clue

[rapid whale]

did they say it was hard cap 16 or trying to keep it around 16 i dont remember

[wicked delta]

Ofc I don’t think they’ll delete it mid expansion

[teal hill]

They said the goal is 16 buttons

[visual geyser]

Yea and they kept the majority of them the exact same for like 7 years

[wicked delta]

But I really doubt it will survive 9.0

[teal hill]

Dragoon actually has less

[wicked delta]

And if not that

It wont make it to 10.0

[teal hill]

Hold on let me verify

[visual geyser]

They rework maybe 1 fucking job every 2 years

And the other 19 or so stay the same

[rapid whale]

nuh uh they rework monk every expac too /s

[teal hill]

Yeah I just checked

[visual geyser]

Oh yea 2 I guess

[teal hill]

Dragoon is 14 buttons

[dusk sky]

Something like, the death of greased lightning was mid-patch cycle, huh?

[visual geyser]

Good

[vast jacinth]

!mute 1386357930961535169 24h

[storm frost]

Success!

@teal hill has been muted by @vast jacinth for 1 day!

[rapid whale]

blm changes were also mid cycle no

[visual geyser]

Good changes

[wicked delta]

Lmao

[rapid whale]

good morning cherry

[wicked delta]

Its the middle of the day

[rapid whale]

mb

[tender jolt]

hello chat

[storm frost]

Strike issued for ealter341 on Final Fantasy XIV

Reason: You have been warned before about bad faith arguements and your disrespectful behaviour
​

Issued By: cherryblossom28

[vast jacinth]

alloo

o7

[tender jolt]

arguments has one e... ruined...

[dusk sky]

I can’t remember if MNK had greased removed and the stance stacks added at the same time or at… DT?

[tender jolt]

greased lightning died with Endwalker

[wicked delta]

I barely touched monk I cant confirm

[tender jolt]

that is something I haven't thought about in years ngl

[zealous meteor]

we all know that if your mute reason is misspelled you get unmuted

[visual geyser]

No it didn’t

Shb

[tender jolt]

no that's what I meant

[rapid whale]

i cant help but get the Bad Feeling ™ that first tier of EC is gonna be another LHW because of tuning lighter for 1st tier of expac effect + tuned lighter to let ppl get used to evolved

[tender jolt]

When Endwalker came out

It died

[rapid whale]

not even trying to doom, just genuine

[visual geyser]

?

It died in shb

[dusk sky]

Oh yeah, removing the timers from their buffs/debuffs (rip demolish) was later, is what I mean

[versed kayak]

was greased something other than a trait before?

[tender jolt]

sigh ok

[visual geyser]

5.4 removed it

[tender jolt]

wait

deadass?

[visual geyser]

Got a big ole rework in 5.4

[dusk sky]

Yeah you stacked up a haste buff (to 3) every time you rotated the three stances

[visual geyser]

Yes lol

[dusk sky]

[tender jolt]

oh yeah monk did have a mid ShB rework didn't it

[versed kayak]

oh

[tender jolt]

my bad, my bad

[rapid whale]

completely reworking a job as a savage tier drops is wild

[vestal hollow]

emu

[versed kayak]

that sounds fun tbh

[vestal hollow]

[visual geyser]

It needed it

Shb monk was dogshit

[tender jolt]

wind stance also allowed you to go to 4 stacks

you'd play fire stance til you hit 3 stacks then swap to wind for the rest of the fight

[kind elm]

omg hi cherry ily

[tender jolt]

earth stance sucked ass

[visual geyser]

Yea that is true I forgot about that

Please don’t bring back kink stances in evolved

[dusk sky]

Like Huton as a haste buff was NIN’s mirror to Greased Lightning, and at the time that left DRG the slowest mfer alive

I’m old.

[tender jolt]

and tornado kick would eat all your stacks to do its damage (if you did this in uptime you were an idiot)

[visual geyser]

Ready for change bby

[vestal hollow]

cant believe shb is retro xiv now

[tender jolt]

Monk players thinking TK was a button that existed was one of monk's pitfalls that made you bad at it

[visual geyser]

That’s why I don’t really give af about losing shit from the current combat system

[boreal pumice]

miss your postional no raiden thrust

[tender jolt]

does. does that not still happen?

[visual geyser]

Feels like I’ve been playing SHB era for a billion years

No if you missed positionals you didn’t get a raider thrust

[tender jolt]

yeah is that. not still the case

[visual geyser]

No lol

[tender jolt]

huh

[visual geyser]

You get it no matter what

[wicked delta]

Its not a thing

[tender jolt]

I feel a lot of ShB era things I just internalised and never realised they removed

[versed kayak]

missing a positional has no punishment outside of a slight potency loss

[wicked delta]

I troll on drg often and the rotation will work out just fine

[visual geyser]

That was terrible

I hated that system lmao

[rapid whale]

Missing positional no longer breaks your combo

[dusk sky]

Mr Prime is the original ROG/NIN designer I hope he cooks in a Venom into Evolved NIN

[tender jolt]

i still habitually do monk positionals

[rapid whale]

Yeah

[wicked delta]

I think its good

[dusk sky]

Remember who you are….

[wicked delta]

If not breaking your combo

[vast jacinth]

hiiii i love u tooo

[versed kayak]

well you should still do positionals

[wicked delta]

I think you should lose some higher potency buttons

[vast jacinth]

and erm time to make maultaschen behave and all XD

[boreal pumice]

do nothing keep your combo , use ranged attack break your combo , choices

[wicked delta]

As punishment for not doing the positional

[rapid whale]

Monk PB lol

[versed kayak]

home made Maultaschen?

[rapid whale]

Ik that's not positional but that's the closest we got I think

[wicked delta]

Yeah

I think all melees should have something like that

All jobs

[kind elm]

AJAB

[wicked delta]

If you dont do the combo correctly then you shouldn’t get to benefit from it

[kind elm]

all jobs are boring

[boreal pumice]

but in the show case didnt drg get a buff that lets you ignore a postional during its combo

[jade nimbus]

true

[wicked delta]

Its not like doing positionals thess days are the reason behind you wiping or not

[versed kayak]

maybe meikyo barely counts...if you somehow overwrite a sen

[wicked delta]

And thats fine

They should just add something that lets you fuck that up

Lol

Can’t reap the benefits if you cant press the buttons

👍

[rapid whale]

Fuck it everyone can bunny now

[visual geyser]

But it’s not true north

There’s no true north I Think

[wicked delta]

Finally a good fucking change

[tender jolt]

Jump was their TN button

In evolved

[versed kayak]

it wasn't visible on the hotbars yup

[visual geyser]

Was it charges?

[tender jolt]

Think so. Pass

[versed kayak]

could either mean they removed it, or they just didn't add it to the hotbar, who knows

[jade nimbus]

it was a jump

[visual geyser]

I ain’t mad

[jade nimbus]

with 3 charges

[visual geyser]

True north sucks

[tender jolt]

Didn't they say something about role action system? idk

[jade nimbus]

which ignores the positional needed for right and left eye

[visual geyser]

That’s fine

[boreal pumice]

i know interject and lowblow become one button

[tender jolt]

ffxiv mfs equipped with a whole litany of new words for left and right

[visual geyser]

Pretty neat actually

[boreal pumice]

same for provoke /shirk based on target

[visual geyser]

Having to think about where you place it

[kindred bison]

Starboard and Larboard mfer

[dusk sky]

Yeah like what’s the point of vengeful jump being a utility skill when it builds up stacks for your other “burst combo”

[visual geyser]

Remember when true north was like 30 seconds

Monk could have an entire minute of true north at one point

[kindred bison]

It needed it lmao

[tender jolt]

Could be like pct hammer. Doesn't matter when you spend it so long as you don't cap it

Odd minute pct hammer you can put wherever you like for movement, in theory

No reason it can't be somewhat adjacent to that

move it back and forth a few GCDs for whatever reason

[kindred bison]

I personally think hammer shouldn’t have a combo timer for it

And instead is used as the movement spell for PCT

[tender jolt]

i like it as it is

[boreal pumice]

i use it for movement

[tender jolt]

I think pct in a practical sense works fine atm

[kindred bison]

Just enables uptime during movement mechanics

[tender jolt]

it has movement options they're just dps negative

[vast jacinth]

Yes completely homemade

[wicked delta]

I think you can use hammer as a movement tool regardless its just a dps loss

But if you don’t care for that shit then just send it lol

[dusk sky]

Is it a combo timer or is that just weapon muse’s buff

[tender jolt]

I do think it's a little stupid that pct overcaps white paint by like 3 whole magnitudes if you're playing properly

[versed kayak]

sick, I sadly ate all the ones I've made, make sure to send pics :D

[tender jolt]

That is the one part Id think it needs something

[dusk sky]

Like PCT is a stack of “fake” combos tied to buffs instead

[kindred bison]

But I also don’t play PCT much so I can’t really comment on it

[dusk sky]

..but so is viper when I put it like that

[tender jolt]

Same as monk

[kindred bison]

I like BLM more

[dusk sky]

Yeah true, and mnk stances

[rapid whale]

Hammers are no longer a loss to use

[dusk sky]

“Combos” is where I should put these quotation marks,

[boreal pumice]

remeber when ppl used to right click off cyan in blue to break that combo because it was a like a 0.02% dps increase

[tender jolt]

I swapped pct for fru because A. it was good but mostly B. smn made me want to end it all

and it just grew on me. never went back

[rapid whale]

We have the same story

Except I didn't play og smn

[tender jolt]

as soon as I got to shiva in fru on smn I realised I just cannot play this job in this fight

It just does not fucking work

Literally

[wicked delta]

PCT is a fun job

Its the only caster I enjoy

Okay well

I like black mage

I do not care for red mage

I dislike summoner

[tender jolt]

I don't mind black mage, I don't know why I don't think of red mage more, summoner fills me with anger every time I look at it

[visual geyser]

I like all the casters

[boreal pumice]

blu best caster

[dusk sky]

I remember raiding Asphodelos with someone who kinda struggled with playing SMN

[visual geyser]

They are all fun to me

[dusk sky]

It, um, they uh, hm.

[wicked delta]

I just wanna play melee

[tender jolt]

.

[wicked delta]

But im in healer jail forever

[tender jolt]

Actually

I just connected two dots

[boreal pumice]

sound like chiyo

[tender jolt]

When I started this tier I was yapping about something or other

[visual geyser]

The only thinking you have to do is like Ifrit lol

[tender jolt]

And our ast said they really enjoyed current smn

and I groaned and moved on

[wicked delta]

He just another me

[rapid whale]

casters are shockingly balanced rn

[visual geyser]

I don’t hate current smn tho

[tender jolt]

Later we had to kick them because they had 30% GCD uptime

[visual geyser]

I think evoolved smn could cook

[rapid whale]

even smn doing decent dmg

[visual geyser]

Should cook

[tender jolt]

I wonder if these things were related

[wicked delta]

How do you manage that

[tender jolt]

i do not fucking know

[visual geyser]

Idk if they’ll get more summons but they’ll probably make the Demi’s more interesting atleast lol

[dusk sky]

If Evolved AST is finally a fucking AST who actively plays all drawn cards instead of drawing and sitting on half of ‘em til the burst -

[rapid whale]

?

[wicked delta]

Even when I troll on gameplay I still get like

80% or something

And thats at its worst

[tender jolt]

i lost faith in that when all the dt changes they got was reskinned bahamut

[rapid whale]

30% is crazy work

[shadow pilot]

We putting too much faith on clueless players

[wicked delta]

30% is literally being AFK

😭

[tender jolt]

Yeah we were dying to mechanics and failing dps checks on m10

Checked logs

Ah

That'll explain it

We thought that the other healer who was their friend would leave as well when we kicked them, but they stuck around and I think it was partly because they learned what not having to carry the healing on their back felt like

[shadow pilot]

We need to put them in corporate nexus /j

[tender jolt]

(the other healer wasn't that bad. not good, but about as good as you'd expect someone new to savage to be)

[rapid whale]

i sound like a total downer whenever I say it but a lot of people think they are cool with "clear whenever with my friends" until they are hard stuck on an early fight later weeks

[wicked delta]

This is how you end up in healer jail

Your co heal sucks

Or your healers in general suck

You pick up healer

Congrats you can never play any other job ever again

[shadow pilot]

Or White Mage /j

[tender jolt]

this is just management of expectations 101

you need to be aware of how low you can actually tolerate

[wicked delta]

White mages

[rapid whale]

YOU'RE WHITE!!!! YOU'RE! WHITE!!!

[tender jolt]

me in wow

other people suck ass I'll do it myself

but thankfully I haven't succumbed to the last step

[wicked delta]

Thats why I like my current static bc while casual you also get released into PF after prog is over so you can do whatever you want

[tender jolt]

Mostly cause I like not being called slurs by little timmy the ret paladin

[dusk sky]

It’s weird I main healer in 14 but anxiety keeps me on dps in other MMOs

Sighs in Prevoker

[visual geyser]

Well I didn’t

[tender jolt]

14 helped me learn how to play supports in wow properly

[wicked delta]

Im basically a healer player in every game I play atp

[tender jolt]

But it's such a thankless fucking job in wow it's far from addictive

[wicked delta]

Or support in general

[shadow pilot]

14 helps me in product management

[wicked delta]

Its either tank or healer

Wallahi im finished

[shadow pilot]

[wicked delta]

I wanna be a dps

[rapid whale]

just do it coward

[wicked delta]

Theres too many we don’t need more dps players

[shadow pilot]

I know the trade offs
I know the resources
I know how to manage expectations
Truly healer gaming fr fr

[wicked delta]

I think next expac ill use my EU character to raid

I’ll be free to do whatever I want there

[tender jolt]

plus I've had enough fangs out arguments with healer 'mains' in my guild who've played since classic that we would call curebots that I know to not volunteer for anything

tanking is easy though. it's just boring dps

[daring pine]

i'm getting flashbacks

[wicked delta]

I really hate M11S

[daring pine]

Show me your footwork!

[wicked delta]

RAAAAAGHHHHH!!

[dusk sky]

Tyrant….

[tender jolt]

the only tier I've had like that was anabaseios

Coupled with the fact I was raiding at 5am, whenever I get it in roulettes I genuinely feel some sort of ptsd

[wicked delta]

Atp

[shadow pilot]

Tyrant....

[wicked delta]

The fight isn’t even hard

[shadow pilot]

[wicked delta]

I just hate the fight

I got a godlike crit run

[tender jolt]

It's like anabaseios wasn't a thing that happened it is just a mental state

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/it-is-the-same-old-story-same-excuse--k01KRV1SFEXQR18HCREB138ET2W

[wicked delta]

We wipe to stampede

It made me so angry I stopped playing for the night

😭

[daring pine]

i found a static i actually like now so its ok

[rapid whale]

bere nais

[zealous meteor]

gonna hard queue p10

[tender jolt]

iirc raiding in anabaseios was the first time I really learned what disassociating felt like

I was sitting in my chair and just

[wicked delta]

I had more ptsd with P11 than P10

[tender jolt]

i went somewhere else

[daring pine]

they were already on m12 when i was on m11 split so if i progged faster maybe i'd clear on patch buuut

[tender jolt]

idk how to phrase it

[daring pine]

idrc all that much

[wicked delta]

P11S is so simple and yet PF kept wiping to random bullshit

My eyes would just glaze over

My mind is elsewhere

[zealous meteor]

too busy staring at the boss

[tender jolt]

P11 felt OK to me, in my mind it doesn't feel like the rest of the tier

[dusk sky]

This is the first time I cleared all tiers on patch, I think. Stupid A4S

[daring pine]

tobi do i need to remind you what happened when i PF'd m9

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/blue-lock-isagi-9--k01KRV1N9S08ZV35AQMT46WBWY5

[wicked delta]

And mind you he ugly

[dusk sky]

But like SB I fell off just before Alphascape and my Eden/Pandae record are pretty bad lmao

[shadow pilot]

Wtfart???

[wicked delta]

Pissing off all Elidibus truthers with 1 sentence

[shadow pilot]

[tender jolt]

Cleared every tier on patch except anabaseios

[daring pine]

i hate pf @wicked delta

[tender jolt]

Since verse

[zealous meteor]

yeah he's infinitely better as an npc

[wicked delta]

100 pulls for vamp is insane

[daring pine]

bro

[wicked delta]

I had less than 100 for Tyrant

😭

[daring pine]

bj brothers were 69 pulls exactly

[tender jolt]

mine wasn't that much better but that's cause we were saddled with the healer who couldn't...

[dusk sky]

Abyssos def my best tier for pandae but haha… P8S PF…

[daring pine]

can't make this up

tyrant took even less pulls than bj bros

[tender jolt]

p8s was when I was forced to learn how to heal

was fun

it was also when the prevalent strats were made by a black mage player

thanks, scripe

[daring pine]

m12p1 was 110 pulls and p2 is at 160 rn but i'm also on enrage so

almost

🤞

the voices

[dusk sky]

My team got uhhh, I think just one more reclear, then I’m not going with ‘em into ulti

[wicked delta]

Lemme peep my tomestone

[daring pine]

mine is almost done with reclears

[rapid whale]

i do reclears for the love of the game

[daring pine]

m9 and m10 reclears are done

m11 is almost done

[wicked delta]

If I wasnt in a static id be skipping reclears entirely

[daring pine]

still need to clear 12 and then do reclears for wep

[wicked delta]

I only need to do 12 for weapon

[daring pine]

i would do barse reclears but i can't be assed i hate pf too much they all deserve death

[wicked delta]

Im 790 with aug tome

[dusk sky]

I guess I need to keep going to have pages/coffers lined up for EC jobs… but can wait for tier unlock for that

[daring pine]

tobi

i might raid on eu next expac

[wicked delta]

Same

I wanna prog outside static time

[daring pine]

well yes i don't like progging at midnight either

[rapid whale]

im glad you two enjoy raiding

[daring pine]

but also i hate being dependent on noclippy

to actually play

[wicked delta]

That too

I refuse to play AST on NA

[daring pine]

big patch drops and i'm just useless

[wicked delta]

Because it feels like shit on high ping

Lol

[daring pine]

i would rather jump than try to do rdm opener without noclippy

its like being stabbed repeatedly

[wicked delta]

Umm

How do I check pull count on tomestone again

Gup

[daring pine]

ok so go to the fight on your profile

[dusk sky]

I hope one day the plogon Yoshi P kills is redirect/true mouseover

[daring pine]

you click this

[dusk sky]

I can’t imagine playing AST without it

[rapid whale]

lets be real noclippy should be built into the game by this point

[daring pine]

yes

[wicked delta]

Huh

When I cleared tomestone said like

96 pulls

Its increased now?

[daring pine]

weird

tobi i'm assuming you're gonna play healer on the bnuuy in EC

[wicked delta]

Yea

Probably AST

[daring pine]

idk what im gonna play on my bnuuy

maybe tank

[wicked delta]

I even got an alt ready

[daring pine]

u can be my pocket healer

[zealous meteor]

the bnuuy(tm)

[wicked delta]

So I’ll be playing AST/PCT

[rapid whale]

mf

play pct

you said you wanted to dps

[daring pine]

i'll wiggle my ears and you'll heal me

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/grrr-bambi-1--k01KRV2G42SBJEQK0B70QC3VSRK

[wicked delta]

I play dps on my alt

[rapid whale]

just use ilvl sync amirite

[wicked delta]

So true

The only issue I have is that

I’ll need to get crafted gear

Somehow

[rapid whale]

materia

no1 smuggling hub

[wicked delta]

I could ask my bf to smuggle some stuff

Its just annoying

For two alts

Thats like

Four characters that would need gear

[boreal pumice]

just merc run

[vestal hollow]

i could smuggle you pookie

[wicked delta]

Merc runs attract the worst players

[rapid whale]

mb im new

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/palpatine-star-wars-17--k01KRV3TFRH7474WMSZ9F051KPM

[remote gate]

marce tanking story arc will be insane

[hardy crest]

ngl this is the reason I started pfing after my static’s sessions are over for the week

[tired egret]

question for y'all

https://i.imgur.com/T7VJ538.png

y'all fw this?

[boreal pumice]

i use it when i remeber to get them out of the retainer

[tired egret]

gonna try em out for T7S so I can save food

[versed kayak]

I use it when I forgot to put up the FC buff

[tired egret]

I am on Free Trial, so no Free Company for me

and thus I guess this is very useful

[tall field]

ngl Warrior in the river boss of ADV merchant tale is good

Tidal wave has KB u have to posi... screw the entire mechanic i dont care

[versed kayak]

oh, then yeah, gonna need to craft less food for yourself then

With it, you can eat twice and get 90 mins at once

[tired egret]

yeaa

sounds good

[tall field]

U Arms length the first tidal wave

2nd one will be autoblocked by IR

so the entire mech is a joke

[tired egret]

https://i.imgur.com/NZRzH5Z.png this raid food gonna LAST

[dapper zealot]

What are you using that for?

[remote gate]

final coils of bahamut

[versed kayak]

^

[jolly flume]

matter of fact no I'm completely ambivalent but I'm tired of seeing literally everyone treat it like some kind of boogeyman that will
magically solve every problem in the game if removed because they can't be asked to stop for 2 seconds and give the topic a little bit of thought

[dapper zealot]

Can't believe you made them leave

Where will I get my hot takes from

[random needle]

From the next clown who arrives

[versed kayak]

(they've left the discord after getting muted)

chiyo just too toxic

[dapper zealot]

Siti was the next to arrive

You're the new clown now

[wicked delta]

glad they took my advice

im just saying

if you dont like ppl then leave bru

[versed kayak]

My only hot take is that people that can't be arsed to actually press their buttons should just be banned

(I know they keep the game alive)

[dapper zealot]

Cold take

[stray forge]

all of my days

im takin naps

[tired egret]

technically I'm already done with that

minus maybe 1 T13 clear for achievement

ok but seriously I'm already done with all of Coils on MINE, and rn only missing T7S in terms of clearing

done with T6S, T8S & T9S

[kind elm]

just backread the chat

good content

[random needle]

That's where it's at

[kind elm]

chat do i drop my fflogs on my links for my CV

its for 7/11

they might want to know i have experience working in slow boring environments

[dapper zealot]

Do it

[winged spindle]

I got a tank profile but he got a total of 15 dd over 16 kills in M9S... kinda high no?

mb, 16 dd over 14 kills

but only 2 death

[valid solar]

might be brainrotted and incapable of doing vamp stomp

[winged spindle]

[amber fable]

Another merc wing that drops in 2 kills

Easy 5m

[winged spindle]

If it was a Balmung player I could have imagine that he get stomp voluntarily

[kind elm]

listen the fuckin slices on screech 2 are mean ok

mb...

[zealous meteor]

my goat is washed...

[amber fable]

The fight is fucking free anyway

[winged spindle]

Tho he did super good in M10S

2 death, 0 DD over 11 kills

[dapper zealot]

Thanks

[winged spindle]

[dapper zealot]

I got a new gaming chair that day

[winged spindle]

4 death and 6 dd in M11S... pretty nice, I heard many people struggling with this fight

oer 11 kills

Will I finally fill my static

[tall field]

Wasnt p8s also in this?

Something something flameviper

[spice path]

Ngl. Thats actually pretty good. I dont think my static had a single fully clean run of 11 and we cleared like... w3.

[winged spindle]

Yeah, I really like his profile, I must do a vocal interview to see his behavior, motivation
But I can only see if everything is real on the field

[jolly flume]

"tell me about a time you had a conflict with a team member"

"well there was this this time this FUCKING random clipped me with their defamation and tried to gaslight me into thinking I stood in the wrong place"

[winged spindle]

I never asked if someone had a conflict

[craggy marsh]

My experience with

[winged spindle]

We all know y'all are innocent :3

oh, the tank actually had 6 dd and 6 death over 8 kills in m12s p2 T-T

Well, time to ask for a vocal :3