#endgame-lounge

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amber fable
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That lb takes some sweet ass time

novel garden
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Iirc that was the ability that gives you "true north" but instead it counting all positionals up to 10 secs its only on the very next positional gcd

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Which kinda.. like is so odd for it to only count the one single gcd vs how true north is now

dusk sky
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Like Vengeful Surge now, yeah

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Er Life Surge, same diff

versed kayak
novel garden
raven prawn
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soooo Meteion is literally the perfect example of why NOT TO DESIGN AI

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to any who played mass effect, she gives me Reaper vibes

amber fable
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Reapers werent ai

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Well..they were but

raven prawn
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yes they were lol

loud nymph
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I mean, they were

amber fable
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Y'know what

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Youre right

loud nymph
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the leviathan dlc was dogshit but it explicitly stated that the reapers were originally an AI construct

amber fable
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Leviathan species made ai and that ai harvested them?

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Or did they turned themselves android

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I forgot...its been a while

loud nymph
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the leviathans created the reaper intelligence with the goal of preventing mass extinctions from synthetics rising up and destroying their creators

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and the intelligence said "ok cool we'll harvest you and turn you into giant robots, thereby ensuring your race lives forever"

amber fable
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Ohh okay

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And then they made relays and proceeds to harvest every species who gets to relay usage civilization...

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But dont worry human ai cant do that..not yet atleast

thorny hazel
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So pure speculation, whats the chance that dropping ps4 is related to the next field ops zone? They said its was due to storage issues on the ps4 but the original ps4 launched with 2x the storage that switch 2 has. Itd be nice to see them add 144 person instances again. Saying that its something in 8.2 specifically thats going to cause them to run out of space has been in my head since fanfest

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I know, its probably more likely that they wanted to drop it before Evercold but decided not to due to chip shortage and everything else

raven prawn
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ps4 is what? 14 years old now

tough gorge
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yeah 13 years old

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it's already discontinued in japan

raven prawn
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ps4 has been dead since 2022 for me

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lol

tough gorge
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and they confirmed ps4 support will end in like
8.3 release iirc

thorny hazel
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its definitely past time to drop support. I remember trying it out on ps4 back in shb and it was chugging

tough gorge
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so ps4 players have like 2 years to go

raven prawn
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if not less. hell theres rumors ps6 might release in the next 2 to 3 years

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even the ps5 is 6 years old now

thorny hazel
raven prawn
thorny hazel
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nah im not on ps4, was more wondering what would be the issue with supporting ps4 while adding switch2. If it was an issue with performance from some specific content or something.

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It is a very old system and didnt know sony had dropped support so that make sense

sleek moon
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While PS4 requires tinkering

thorny hazel
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also i do play a little on steam deck, so if ps4 cant keep up its not gonna be great for sd

vestal hollow
pale gale
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yeah majority of ps4 players dont know how to open up the console and add a 1tb ssd

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or more

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not to say its bad, its expected, a console is supposed to be played without tinkering

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if you want to tinker, get a pc

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the hardware is kinda old

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quad core no hyper threading

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8 gb of slow ram

raven prawn
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reason for that also, is if the ps5 detects that you tinkered with it and changed parts (yes it has software detection on the hardware) it will brick your ps5 and ban you. same goes for ps4 so you have to be hella careful

pale gale
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its easy

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ps5 yes

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still active ofc

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i opened up my ps4 for a expansion upgrade

vestal hollow
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i mean i cant imagine ps4 will perform well in ec anyways

pale gale
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and repasted it so that its not running ass

vestal hollow
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given the screenshots theres a big jump in fidelity

pale gale
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but ever since dawntrail

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it has taken a huge toll

vestal hollow
pale gale
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big one

vestal hollow
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but it is explicitly clear that evercold zones will be much higher quality

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from the screenshots we have been shown

pale gale
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meanwhile my 4050 with 6gb of vram

worldly grotto
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Honestly I hope Evercold takes some aspects of world design from ARR zones

pale gale
worldly grotto
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Smaller and more intimate but more detailed

vestal hollow
worldly grotto
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But I know that’s not gonna happen

pale gale
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yeah nah not gonna happen

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they could take some from dragon flight

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i like the zones there

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elevation

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you know

worldly grotto
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Zones with verticality would be great

pale gale
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SOTO in gw2 is full of that

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since evercold, we are taking up in the skies cause the world is frozen solid

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but they gotta remove the aether currents man

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make flying possible at the start explore the world

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they are changing the game systems so why not remove that

raven prawn
pale gale
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like bruh

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I love ff14 for the story and sometimes the combat maybe fine

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but man exploring is kinda ass

zealous meteor
clear plume
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It’s also just harder to have msq map reveals if you have the ability to fly

lost sinew
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I think removing aether currents would actually nulify exploration even more

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I'd just flesh out that system a bit more

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There's a few aether currents that you have to think about how to get to in the game, those are cool, they get you to engage a bit more than you usually do

clear plume
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I honestly wish aether currents were tied to fates instead of exploration

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Always have

dapper zealot
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There's just very little incentive to explore besides currents

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Hopefully the overworld update will make zones decent

zealous meteor
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i just wish they'd do more with aether currents

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have them be sightseeing log entries maybe

raven prawn
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adding them to fates would actually incentivise me to do them, i prefer combat over exploration

loud nymph
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HoT zones are also very good for that

lost sinew
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maybe adding more currents and you have to do different things for each one?

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i guess people would bristle at not being able to steamroll flying-acquisition in zones

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but sometimes a little inconvenience is good

loud nymph
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Verdant Brink for example has massive platforming sections, with achievements/mastery points/hero points all locked behind exploring really high up in the sky (or really down low below the "ground")

pale idol
jade nimbus
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also ya know, they're adding switch 2 to the mix

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oh, whoops

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chat didn't scroll down

boreal pumice
odd beacon
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im being dragged into dsr

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god grant me the power of muscle memory

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i havent done this in a year or 2

clear plume
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That’s what my static is deciding to do Saturday too

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“dsr saturday this is ur only warning come studied thru the whole fight”

pale gale
odd beacon
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yea while the pf fills

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LMFAOO

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but im playing gacha instead ❤️

pale gale
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breuh

pale gale
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the slop must flow

odd beacon
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hey its fun okay

pale gale
jolly flume
odd beacon
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nvm disbanded

jolly flume
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I haven't properly done top in like 2 years and my hands just know what to do

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mostly

odd beacon
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that was me with top awhile ago

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p3 just works

sleek moon
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man knows how to top

pale idol
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What the fuck is this shit, I do my first heavyweight AAC and it doesn't give me any rewards

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Went to the box did 2-3 items of need and got none of it

deep gale
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ggs see you next week

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You get books (pity currency) but yeah sometimes it be that way

pale idol
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That's shitty

odd beacon
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my record is 3 weeks of no drop loot

pale idol
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Like being a first time and receiving nothing is a bad ordeal.

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Idk i'm salty as fuck about this.

pale idol
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Not even it's my first round doing the Heavyweight AAC, got nothing.

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Not unless uhh

pale gale
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its either spending more money to get crafted

pale idol
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My PREVIOUS Cruiser/Lightweight rounds took up my weekly rewards

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that makes sense

pale gale
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or wait weeklies to get full set of 780

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for weapon, you dont need to buy the weekly tomes on those since ex7 gives out 785

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so before savage you can like start ex7

deep gale
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Is this normal or savage

pale idol
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Yeah I figured, but how is it I do my first Heavyweight and received NO rewards, I did the Lightweight/Cruiser last night, so my only dictation is that it used up my "weeklies"

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This is normal

deep gale
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Oh just do it again then

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If you didn't get any gear you can do it again.

pale idol
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I knooow, but like damn doing 1 and receiving not a single piece, kinda jank imo.

pale gale
deep gale
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No lmao

pale gale
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oh

deep gale
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If only

pale idol
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Savage I'm sure it's worse lmfao

pale gale
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that get my hopes up

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I NEED THE RING

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😭

jolly flume
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in savage you get to roll once a week

pale gale
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at this point im putting a merc pf

jolly flume
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and after that no more loot for you

deep gale
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Savage you get to see a coffer once a week, normal you can keep going until you've claimed gear.

pale gale
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pass loot for 2 mil?

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is that fine?

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ring coffer

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?

jolly flume
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people would honestly do that for almost free this late

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most people don't even do 9 anymore because accessories are the first thing you typically have extras of

pale gale
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i said i would pass except for ring

jolly flume
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people roll on stuff they won't actually use all the time, there's also a chance people playing this late actually need the gear because they're just now clearing

pale gale
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welp

jolly flume
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but whatever the case 2m is way more than you'd need

fierce matrix
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i was like

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"okay bet free gil"

jolly flume
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lol

fierce matrix
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and I got a free neck out of it

pale gale
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so 200k for accessories is fine incentive?

deep gale
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$2 and a shwarma and I'll pass on loot

fierce matrix
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for one? sure

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its m9s

pale gale
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just one

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yeah

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next week

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ill put up

pale idol
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200k is a nice take

fierce matrix
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you can have 10 DDs and 5 deaths and still clear the fight

pale gale
jolly flume
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you might be undershooting there a little sir

fierce matrix
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my b

fierce matrix
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20 dds and 10 deaths

jolly flume
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nah I meant furen

pale gale
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oh

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nvm

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i thought we talking merc price for accessories

fierce matrix
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I parsed a 96 with a DD xffing

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like bruh

pale gale
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i think i got enough for it

dull drum
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m9 numbers make you realize how dogshit people are

jolly flume
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real ones send an aetherletting aoe straight through the middle

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and also don't soak their tank tower

dull drum
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you can play like straight ass with dds and deaths and still land a purple

pale gale
dull drum
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like LMAOOOOOOOOOO

jolly flume
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last tier I took a hiatus after week 1 so I didn't even try to parse when I came back

pale gale
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bruh

jolly flume
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this tier I actually tried to parse a bit and man it's way too easy

pale gale
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and dont get me started on the warrior incident

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10k dps

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14k at best

jolly flume
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never trust a warrior player

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here's a tip to live and die by

pale gale
jolly flume
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the later you try to clear the tier the more you'll suffer for it

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always do it early

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also no I'm NA i just like pink

pale gale
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oh

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he is like there still progging

jolly flume
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my condolences to your entire region

pale gale
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almost most of the savage raiders know how ass he is

vast jacinth
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I help kill partys sometimes

pale gale
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even encouraging to just learn the job first

fierce matrix
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do you think its worth it

shy obsidian
vast jacinth
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I think every datacenter has one of those infamout people

pale gale
jolly flume
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if it's just a no stakes reprog

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I wouldn't mind

pale gale
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jp people will kick you for beign shit

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i dont blame them

fierce matrix
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yeah I just wanna vibe on BLM

pale gale
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i would kick myself if i were shit

jolly flume
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I'm prob just gonna pf with the gang on red mage after we kill

fierce matrix
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seems like a fun side project

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or DRG

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that could be fun

deep gale
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i have kicked myself for being shit

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pf could never so I took matters into my own hands

fierce matrix
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I just hope the lock on ulti doesn't last till 8.0

fierce matrix
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surely it unlocks at 7.56

pale gale
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jk

fierce matrix
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surely

pale gale
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lol

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ahhaha

jolly flume
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idk why they even lock the ulti

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like what is the point man...

fierce matrix
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"oh no the raiders will get their 1 extra materia"

shy obsidian
fierce matrix
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especially when fucking relic comes out 1.5 months later

deep gale
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can't have people getting too many weapons then they might not stay subscribed

jolly flume
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I would prefer to farm all my totems early for the same reason I do week 1

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it's less of a pain in the ass down the line

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if I just do it all now

pale gale
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the kefka ult is purely BIS savage raid gear right?

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like has to be

shy obsidian
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how do yall ultimaters stay sane during the first few weeks

jolly flume
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savage and aug tome

fierce matrix
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I could get my static to do 23 kills of an ulti in the span of a few weeks

pale gale
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yep

shy obsidian
fierce matrix
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but having sit around every week for 2 hours for a few months is just annoying

deep gale
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if anyone takes aug. crafted into ulti you kill them with your bare hands

pale gale
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yeah nah ill do UwU next expansion

fierce matrix
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aslong as you are 789 you are fine

jolly flume
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you don't have to use the piety ring, you just better remember to throw yourself a personal for every instance of damage or you will get flamed if you die to something by 1k overkill

shy obsidian
sleek moon
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imagine groups not clearing before the weapon gets replaced by relic

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and still weekly lockout after they clear

fierce matrix
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glam item react_emoji_lets_go

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im fine with that, but its still just fucking annoying to have a lockout

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maybe there is cope that they realize that and they unlock it at 7.55

pale gale
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i should finish gow games

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i got all of the games incluiding 4 and ragnarok

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on pc

jolly flume
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like at least with savage there's the cope explanation of slowing down gearing but ultimate is just

shy obsidian
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so like. we're getting Ultimate Diamond weapons, right?

jolly flume
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if you can kill the ultimate you deserve the totems man

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it's just lame

shy obsidian
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white mages win once more

sleek moon
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i used the diamond axe a lot before, didnt like the others

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but asphodelos hammer became a mainstay now

jolly flume
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I used the aspho gun a lot

sleek moon
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kinda sucks if they do a panda ulti it might be the weapons from athena instead of asphodelos

shy obsidian
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the ascension weapons aren't too bad, at least

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like imagine this but MORE glowy

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but yknow, that makes me wonder
how would Ultimate Asphodelos weapons work? like, more white glowy stuff, or a different color?

thin fox
stray forge
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Okay maybe I listen to him

loud nymph
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it's good advice tbh

zealous meteor
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never listen to chiyo

loud nymph
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sounds like something a warrior main might say

zealous meteor
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nah my main tank job is drk

clear plume
fierce matrix
zealous meteor
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yeah

clear plume
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The raid ring is basically free piety for healers to pick up, which is the most useful form of piety you can have

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You are just way more likely to want an extra succour or 3 throughout the fight than you are to enrage a phase to 500 damage

raven prawn
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just got through aitiascope (first time ever) and had my first ever dps trying to tell me how to tank. literally spamming USE PROVOKE, when i was lol

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instant block once we were done

wicked delta
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If the guy’s yelling use provoke then there’s a 75% chance he was getting hit by something you didn aggro

raven prawn
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(i died to the 99999 attack) literally no clue it was coming, so i know i didnt play perfect, but i also know provoke was being used off cooldown

jolly flume
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you're not supposed to voke off cooldown

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you probably just didn't voke when you got back up from dying

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(likely because it was on cooldown from being spammed)

raven prawn
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more than likely

wicked delta
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Thats why you dont voke on cd in the first place

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Once should suffice

jolly flume
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you lose your aggro on death, you need to reestablish immediately

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ideally

raven prawn
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even so, dont see why that means a dps needs to spam PROVOKE PROVOKE. when boss is on last 10% lol

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i did it once it came off cooldown

wicked delta
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Probably cus they don’t wanna die to a tankbuster or something lol

deep gale
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nah i'd live

raven prawn
fierce matrix
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Its not different than normal bosses

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You just have stance on and hit the boss

raven prawn
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it is to me cause i cant move them away from people

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thats what im used to

fierce matrix
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You shouldnt be moving bosses away from people either

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Should always be in the middle

raven prawn
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yeaaah i would rather they be faced away from the dps and by moving the boss i can do that, edge of arena, cant do that

wicked delta
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Melees will be screaming Unfortunate Words in vc if you’re dragging the boss away from mid

wicked delta
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Almost no dungeon boss requires it to be anywhere else than middle so

fierce matrix
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You should just face bosses away

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Please do not move the boss from mid LOL

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Just face it north

raven prawn
fierce matrix
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You shouldnt worry about moving the boss at all in fights

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Just keep it mid as much as possible, and make sure you have stance on and do your rotation

jolly flume
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@fierce matrix it's time

raven prawn
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i always have stance on lol

jolly flume
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(don't worry about what the sign in the back says)

fierce matrix
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You should never have to voke a boss either if you have stance on

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Unless you are not doing your rotation properly

sleek moon
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people are very non confrontational in the game so you wont hear it if you're doing something wrong, unless someone else is at risk of dying like this guy yelling provoke

fierce matrix
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So id look at some things if he had aggro of a wall boss and you had stance on

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Sounds like a rotational issue if a DPS is pulling aggro

shy obsidian
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btw whaddya guys think about this absolute doohickey

raven prawn
wicked delta
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You’re more likely to get “can you do [X] please”

fierce matrix
boreal pumice
jolly flume
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thaumcraft feels like cheating

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infinite water sources for all my chemistry

sleek moon
dapper zealot
pine holly
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I usually don't say anything unless the mistake is so major that its going to be an active hindrance for the rest of the duty.

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Or if we're past ARR content and you're single pulling. I will politely ask to pull more because I don't want to spend 30 minutes on Qitana Revel

boreal pumice
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i ask nice first an ramp up till im im sod this il eat the 30 be someone else problem

pine holly
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Honestly me asking is a courtesy, I will pull more deliberately to encourage the tank that he can do it. Otherwise I'm just gonna hope for a kick so I can move on.

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Unless its ARR, I ain't gonna bully some dude who is that new.

jolly flume
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I've started moving hetonite parts to valley 4

dapper zealot
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Quite a lot of the time I'm just unsure. Like tank is getting whacked more than I'd expect and I don't notice mits. But next pull is ok and I do notice mits. But something is still off and Im not sure what it is

raven prawn
pine holly
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Yeah I've had that too. I also have done these duties so many times that I can tell in about 20 seconds if damage is the problem

true beacon
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typically I can tell relative to hp

pine holly
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Which I might just eat it and not say much unless the pulls are taking that long

sleek moon
pine holly
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I did once get into Dohl Mheng with a very hostile bard, being babied by his friends the entire dungeon, who didn't do aoe or songs. It was noticeable.

dapper zealot
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I do literally have macros to turn on party VFX to full and limited just to check if people are doing aoes if something feels off

pine holly
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I remember I commented on the damage in a way that didn't single anyone out, and he immediately got pissed

true beacon
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hell I can tell if skills go off via to sfx

pine holly
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Which indicates this was a common occurrence

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And killing things fast doesn't take optimal gameplay, you just hit buttons.

deep gale
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getting consistent comments about your lack of dps in the video game where no one is willing to be mean enough is incredible

pine holly
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I don't even get it either since I can't imagine its fun to just hit 1 as Bard for hundreds of hours

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What about your other stuff. Like the big arrow you shoot out from one of your songs.

boreal pumice
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ppl get coddled so much that when they do get asked about something they just blow up go on defence or have someone white knight them

deep gale
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I did expert roulette on reset and nearly cried with joy because it was a normal instance that took less than fifteen minutes and no one was afk for the entire instance unlike the last four

worn bluff
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so i guess all these extra jade xiranite gourds are useless despairge

raven prawn
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ngl all of this, is why i plan to use party finder for practice before dedicating time to any static come my time to finally do savage, well that and i will for sure need a coach as tanking in this game is slightly different to others

dapper zealot
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I mean, it depends on the static

deep gale
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So long as you're honest about your experience or lack thereof there's no reason to feel "not ready" for a static.

dapper zealot
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Only difference between a static and pf is you stick with one long term

deep gale
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I shouldn't talk too much because I've only been in like, two, over the past four years but if everyone is upfront with expectations things are chill

dull drum
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I LOVE PARTY FINDER

fierce matrix
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Statics are always hard to find the right ones

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You have to come into a group with all the right skill levels and all the right expectations

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You obv will have people who are better than others but aslong as its comparable its not too bad

tall field
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Expectations is the harder parameter

fierce matrix
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yeah

tall field
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Some static leaders are

fierce matrix
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PF you can just say "our playstyles don't match" then kick em and find someone new

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with a static, its just morale destroying when you dont have someone permantently in your group and 1-2 are always rotating

tall field
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And too much no shows

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Forcing u to cancel runs

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Or well wait pf

fierce matrix
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Yeah, expectations are pretty important to set.

pine holly
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I fell into my casual static just because I filled in for them once for a reclear and when their tank dropped out the next tier they just messaged me.

deep gale
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connections gaming

fierce matrix
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I couldn't join a casual static cause our mindsets don't mesh well

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I will do whatever to improve and edge mechs to get as much uptime as possible to squeeze out DPS

pine holly
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Yeah know what you're getting into. The one I was in before I was better than a lot of the members there and got irritated when we got stuck. Not a fun place to be in.

jolly flume
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I just wanna have fun with players that dont make me want to waterboard myself

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which is kind of a high bar with this game

fierce matrix
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you should raid with me

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ill make you wanna be waterboarded

jolly flume
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ill make YOU wanna be waterboarded

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ask my static about the shit I say mid pull

round burrow
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I love greeding and end up successfully greeding

fierce matrix
raven prawn
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trial to trial

fierce matrix
round burrow
fierce matrix
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greeding is a myth

raven prawn
round burrow
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We all say the most outlandish shit and homies won't bat a fuckin' eye

fierce matrix
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nah but then thats bad play

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good play is resolving mechs and keeping uptime as much as you can

deep gale
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if the static vc logs drop its over gg

fierce matrix
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if you can keep uptime but its a bit dangerous

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thats not greeding thats just playing properly

tall field
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My approach was mechs then if u comfy try to squeeze where u can gain uptimeBluNyaissa

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Except naught hunts cos that mech is shyt

round burrow
tall field
fierce matrix
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see I always edge mechs right away

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because its the worst to see enrage then wipe to the first two mechs 5 times in a row cause you are greeding

jolly flume
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limit test early!!

fierce matrix
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yep

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always do it early, dont do it late and then drop morale cause you wipe early in the fight a bunch

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basically reprogging the fight

jolly flume
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hey furen

fierce matrix
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yeah

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whats up

jolly flume
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guess who's been put on batch crafting 2 stacks of ev circuits duty

fierce matrix
#

LOLOLOLOL

#

holy fuck LMAO

jolly flume
#

thats not all of it btw

#

it just doesnt fit in the shulker box anymore

fierce matrix
#

Yeah doesn';t surprise me

#

its been a while but i remember doing the same shit

#

god all the red alloy wire

jolly flume
#

I cant wait to have platinum

fierce matrix
#

I had a whole iron chest full of circuit precrafts

jolly flume
#

the higher tier recipes with the moon metals and stuff are so much more efficient

fierce matrix
#

once you get that and ME itll go alot smoother

#

have you looked at the AE crafting recipes yet

jolly flume
#

no

fierce matrix
#

take a peak

jolly flume
#

all I know is you request craft you get craft

fierce matrix
jolly flume
#

and that sounds real nice rn

wicked delta
#

chort 1.0

jolly flume
stark prawn
#

i havent played since 6.3 and i wanna get back into EX trials but i watched a guide for hell on rails EX and i got overwhelmed. i dont really have a group to play with so back in the day i did PF but i might need a helping hand via VC maybe to get me back into it

sleek moon
#

watching the whole thing will overwhelm you, but once you start practicing the earlier parts it gets easier, you can focus on half of the guide first -> practice that -> focus on the other half

rapid whale
#

main thing is perseverence imho

#

you might suck but

#

wait wheres that gif

stray forge
#

Bappol toxic positivity arc

rapid whale
#

no just toxic

#

i was always the most positive person you knew

tepid briar
#

hell on rails was annoying to me because of the amount of random mechanics that would just come out of thin air

rapid whale
#

that's right go reflect on your sins

boreal pumice
#

so they did maintance a few days ago to fix up some bugs take otter bag away ... theirs still jp text if you leave FT

stable valley
#

These weapons are growing on me

boreal pumice
#

they took away the dnc bug for ft yet cant fix jp text

zealous meteor
#

the what bug

trim frost
stark prawn
#

whats the quickest way to level viper other than bozja

amber fable
#

Roulletes and leveling dungeon

wicked delta
#

everything burns

remote gate
#

elounge i have a question. what does it mean to be a larper in a fandom cuz larping is just roleplaying irl. is it like pretending to be a fan of something

trim frost
#

to be a fake fan posturing as a genuine one

remote gate
#

like i saw someone on xiv twitter call another person an ff larper

trim frost
#

usually by showing that you lack critical or fundamental knowledge about the thing you claim to be a fan of

tough gorge
#

larper in this context is just poser

#

we already have a word for this, and it's called poser

trim frost
#

why it's called larp is because you "roleplay" as being a fan rather than being an actual fan

rapid whale
#

most xiv players are larping as ff fans

#

they just like xiv smile

boreal pumice
dull drum
#

and 16

rapid whale
#

no 9 wtf

dull drum
#

nope

#

i didnt play 7-9

remote gate
#

so basically ppl pretending to like something but in reality they literally know basic level stuff and not the deep end stuff

rapid whale
#

7 and 8 are skippable

dull drum
#

7 fans would hang you for that

rapid whale
#

molten lava take but i rly do believe 7 overrated af

dull drum
#

i do own remake intergrade

#

but not rebirth

#

but something something ff7 remake is a different timeline than orig ff7 because ghost nonsense

#

idfk

remote gate
tough gorge
boreal pumice
#

ive never played 11

rapid whale
rapid whale
boreal pumice
#

it is the one that got the most ppl into the series and most regnoisable charactaers

remote gate
rapid whale
#

SUPER OPO BALL

remote gate
#

but speaking of ffxi third AR genuinely has me interested in the game

rapid whale
#

iirc there are some good private servers but idt you want the og og experience

#

you think xiv is bad with the 500 hours of msq to reach end game

remote gate
#

the alexander boss has incredible VA, the promethia boss is cool as shit, and the shinryu boss looks like an actual final boss of the game

rapid whale
#

era accurate xi would probably take most people a year to reach end game, and that's including the fact people are more willing to help

dull drum
#

i should finish 12

remote gate
#

would I have to play on a ps2 to get that genuine experience bapple

rapid whale
#

12 peam but you can rly tell when matsuno said fuck yall and left the team cuz they forced him to add vaan

dull drum
#

think i stopped really early on because i literally just got basch

rapid whale
#

i can only imagine how pisesd off matsuno got tho

remote gate
#

never been able to get past like the fifth hour of ffxii because the game bored me to death

rapid whale
#

have this whole story written out with all this political intrigue and mythology and some suits are like, "hey can you add a teenage boy so people have someone to self insert on"

remote gate
#

like the last thing I remember is vaan going into town and bragging that basch is back

rapid whale
#

i just like ivalice

tough gorge
#

ff11 is pretty much pc only now

#

also the devs are still sadistic as fuck on the current version

#

ff11 has ults called master trials and it took groups MONTHS to get world first on some

rapid whale
#

yea

#

1 pull for like, 100 man hours outside of instance lmao

whole estuary
#

Ivalice da best

rapid whale
#

it rly is

tough gorge
#

the latest ff11 ult was released 2 years ago
and it was only cleared last month

#

and it was a massive matter of luck more than anything

#

60min time limit
and takes 50min or so to clear

rapid whale
#

atp anyone still playing xi is there for life

#

so i imagine they just go balls out

whole estuary
#

FF14 is supposed to be the MMO that respects your time

#

FF11 doesn't have to respect anything

rapid whale
#

not even itself

remote gate
#

ffxi having ultimates is insane to me actually

#

im assuming the ults aren't like xiv ults since xi and xiv are two vastly different games

zealous meteor
shy obsidian
#

i can only imagine them being the biggest damage sponges ever...

zealous meteor
shy obsidian
#

sounds like an interesting experience

zealous meteor
rapid whale
#

much closer to old school ff in that regard

#

like oh you need xyz set up from abc jobs

trim frost
#

i might be senior level larp

rapid whale
#

much, much less homogenization than xiv so it really is not just "tank uses short mit + 40%"

#

it's like, "okay someone on the team has to have rdm for stoneskin" or something like that

zealous meteor
#

i have played more ff games than just 14 i swear neofox_pleading i've played 11,
and started but not finished 10, 12, 15, and tactics. help

true beacon
shy obsidian
#

i haven't finished IX yet...

rapid whale
#

go finish tactics

shy obsidian
#

I can't tell if it's better or worse that my first ever FF game was... XIV

rapid whale
#

tactics p easily in top 5 games square has ever made

#

i think thats p normal for this generation

tough gorge
#

my first one was 10

rapid whale
#

its my generation that grew up on ff

trim frost
#

i'm struggling in tactics rn

sinful brook
#

okay old man

rapid whale
#

yalls generation grew up with xiv unironically

sinful brook
#

mb

stray forge
#

I didn’t like tactics

zealous meteor
#

my first ff game was teeeechnically 10 but i played it for like an hour before giving up
then 9 which i played for like six hours
i didn't seriously start ff until i picked up 14

tough gorge
#

I had the demo as a kid and finished the hd remaster like a decade ago, then stopped playing x-2 because I couldn't take it seriously

trim frost
#

i don't know how to deal with the ||wiegraf|| duel in chapter 3

stray forge
#

The character progression was boring to me

winged spindle
#

I don't receive anymore message for my static 😢

tough gorge
#

I have 9 and the 13 trilogy on steam I ought to get to them at some point

#

and 15 and 16

trim frost
#

i guess i could just go to fire emblem for that but then that means i'm playing fire emblem

zealous meteor
#

4, 10, 12, 15, tactics on steam
9 on switch
11 and 14 direct from SE
and i pirated 4/5/6's GBA versions and those are probably the ones i'll play. from what little i've played of them they feel a lot nicer than the pixel remasters

tough gorge
#

I played 6 on 3ds but with a qol romhack and a different translation

trim frost
#

also iirc male units are better suited to physical jobs and female units magical jobs ? or so i remember reading

rapid whale
trim frost
#

what

#

it can do that .

tough gorge
#

I'd be interested in trying out 11 in a private server ngl

tough gorge
#

get the og experience
I used to play a kmmo as a kid I'm used to it KEKW

jade nimbus
#

that's what I did

dull drum
trim frost
dull drum
#

esp for 5 and 6

jade nimbus
#

the game does turn a bit bs too at that point of the story, especially on hard, imo

rapid whale
# trim frost it can do that .

It used to be a right of passage yeah. Cuz you know how it lets you save between the stages? Ppl would save before that fight and then shrimply not have an mc strong enough to win and gg your save bricked

trim frost
#

oh

#

was there one save slot

rapid whale
#

No people just didn't know any better

zealous meteor
jade nimbus
#

but iirc the way I did it was || was running away, healing, and buffing with the other ramza ability which I forgot||

trim frost
#

like mb i designed my main squad to be balanced i didnt realize i was going into a fucking dick measuring contest

dull drum
#

idk why they didnt just make a remaster that included gba content but ig to like

#

keep the spirit of the original

whole estuary
jade nimbus
#

I think it was cheer

dull drum
#

man fuck that shit i want more superbosses

wicked delta
#

wtf is that

zealous meteor
#

but comparing the gba version of 4 with the pixel remaster, the gba version feels more.... authentic?
idk why. the pixel remaster feels "wrong" somehow

whole estuary
#

Tallafell!

trim frost
sleek moon
#

slenderwoman

whole estuary
#

so cute

dull drum
#

because otherwise the default font is HORRID

rapid whale
#

Min maxing almost always leads to a worse exp in ff games IMHO because they simply aren't hard enough to warrant it

jade nimbus
#

you just cheer yourself until you skyricoket in strength and also kill what comes after

zealous meteor
zealous meteor
trim frost
#

i take so much damage from hallowed bolt

#

i don't know if it's a fixed amount or something

#

but i tried putting magickal defense boost on and it did nothing and now i feel stupid

#

oh and i also tried to go mystic to disable him and Forgot it's a boss battle

remote gate
#

am I a ff larper my first ff was the ds remake of ffiv

jade nimbus
#

so if you run away, and space it good enough, Wiegraf has 1 turn where he can't reach you to attack you iirc

jade nimbus
#

which you can use to cheer and heal with monk selfheal

rapid whale
#

just 1 shot with dual wield ninja /s

proper cave
remote gate
#

after years made it real

jade nimbus
#

also if you can give you extra movement speed it is also good

sleek moon
#

ff4 was fun, i quit ff4 ds

#

was too hard

#

went back to the gba version

zealous meteor
#

but idk if that's true

trim frost
#

or if i am able to run away it's when he gets a double turn

#

so it's just 😐

sleek moon
#

idk about 3, i think the original is harder lol

#

plus was the only one not ported to gba for whatever reason

jade nimbus
#

oh, ye, tailwind is the other thing

#

but ye, it is kinda of an oof fight

#

ff tactics has a bunch of things like that, that are really cool, but also pretty ass

trim frost
#

i like the story so far though

jade nimbus
#

like iirc some of the best equip in the game you can only get once if you bring a thief with the treasure hunter ability to a location which is only accessible during a certain quest fight

remote gate
remote gate
#

that being said snes ffiv is piss easy if you played the western version

trim frost
#

well i don't really intend to minmax so i guess it's whatever

jade nimbus
#

oh, ye, it is just funky, and also not needed at all

rapid whale
#

min maxing in tactics involves intentionally de-lvl'ing your characters to get ideal level up stats based on jobs etc i hate it

jade nimbus
#

I man, that's the extra min maxing step

remote gate
#

considering ive played ffiv snes, gba, and ds + after years i think im justified in hating the shit out of post EW msq

jade nimbus
#

it is not even needed to do the super dungeon

remote gate
#

is stat maxing difficult to do in tactics

#

i see ppl with 999 hp in that game on YouTube

rapid whale
#

difficult no just annoying

#

its why i say dont bother

jade nimbus
#

so the way stats work in tactics is that each job has different growth rate, and your job at the moment you level up affects which stats you increase and by how much

clear plume
tall field
#

2.09% enuo

jade nimbus
#

this also works in reverse, cause the game there are things called 'deleveling traps', which delevel you and decrease your stats based on your current job

clear plume
#

But the goal was intentionally to show off the gba could play snes games

tall field
#

ngl healers have it hardest

#

and nought hunts people panic

jade nimbus
#

tldr you decrease your level with shit jobs, and increase it with good job to max all stats

#

but imo, it is not needed for anything

#

not even the superdungeon requires that much minmaxing

remote gate
#

do you blow everything out of the water with max stats

jade nimbus
#

almost iirc

#

also it matters more in tactics advance and tactics advance 2 iirc

#

cause you need everyone to dip into ninja for a least a few levels just cause speed is so relevant there

remote gate
#

seeing fe fights not have frame rate drops is foreign to me

rapid whale
#

is it not engage

stray forge
#

its toothpaste

rapid whale
#

im orange juice

stray forge
#

i bet ur made from concentrate

#

godzilla son or gamera daughter

rapid whale
#

mothra

zealous meteor
clear plume
#

Ta2 ninja is a Hume only class, so dipping into it is a little hard to do, but either way not required by any metric, by the time you complete all the quests and get to superbosses you’re not struggling on them just bc levels stop relatively mid sized

#

For enemies

clear plume
#

There isn’t like level 99 superbosses that take an hour to fight

raven prawn
#

whats better for newbies into dawntrail once you hit 100? crafted gear or tomestone gear? or should i do a mix of both until one of them is completely full?

rapid whale
#

you are capped weekly on the amount of tomes you can obtain

#

you are p much forced to use crafted pieces then replace with either tome or savage gear

#

oh yeah there's also the alliance raid

raven prawn
rapid whale
#

highly highly recommend looking up the gear on here first to find your cheapest price

#

we had someone who paid like nearly 8x the cost the other day

#

was sadge

amber fable
#

Normal raid gear for start

#

Crafted if you have cash

#

Capped tome in the meanwhile to fill slots you havent with above 2

remote gate
amber fable
#

For ex start with newest one

#

Older ex player population gets very mixed

#

For pug atleast

rapid whale
#

ye its about as random as duty finder/roulettes

tepid briar
#

okay this has to be a new record

#

tank on stampede prog

amber fable
#

Df tier on ex is about as good as doing ex blind

tepid briar
#

screwed up dod five times

#

I think every single wipe was them

raven prawn
tepid briar
#

they were also lying about prog apparently

amber fable
#

By the time you get to dt end gear wont matter as much

raven prawn
#

i wanna be geared asap when i get there lol

amber fable
#

I am saying you dont have to

#

You will catch up by that time

tulip wraith
#

courtly will be enough to do anything except new ult

amber fable
#

As long as you get one job to 100 to get capped tomes from roulletes

rapid whale
amber fable
#

You will likely save up 2k capped tomes

rapid whale
#

jk obv but ye

#

you got a long ways to go

raven prawn
tulip wraith
#

i mean just dont say a boss name really Plink

raven prawn
#

yeaaah if im wanting to talk about a specific boss in a specific duty/ msq boss. i kinda have to say the name lol

rapid whale
#

just remember the wise words of jocat

tall field
#

FINALLY CLEARED ex7

rapid whale
#

always be casting

tall field
#

And got the weapon chest

tough gorge
#

you could also say the level of the duty

tall field
#

THe hardest part in ex7 to me was

#

praying ur healers know where to stand

#

so tanks dont get clipped in aoes when doing wild charges

#

NOUGHT hunts

#

;-;

#

died to someone running CCW when it was CW CW

tough gorge
#

jp player 🫵

zealous meteor
#

yeah as long as you don't go "wow im really struggling on hydaelyn EX" or similar in #beginner-lounge it's fine

rapid whale
#

that reminds me of some streamer who had people making characters jsut to send them tells of spoilers

#

sad stuff

zealous meteor
#

someone posted that here like... yesterday right

rapid whale
#

i think so

tough gorge
#

yeah I saw that lately on twitter

zealous meteor
#

really shitty

tough gorge
#

chuds hate dt so much they're willing to spoil the rest of the game for brand new ppl

loud nymph
craggy marsh
#

"I don't like this thing so i'm going to ruin it for other people"

#

jobless mentality

tough gorge
#

don't be a chud, be a chort

tall field
rapid whale
tall field
#

well on the + side i can keep my mentor roulette

#

in 8.0

loud nymph
craggy marsh
rapid whale
#

oic

craggy marsh
#

Ya it's a meme bc of that one time when XIV got picked for best community or something

amber fable
#

Best at cooking drama

#

But I feel theres much better contenders out there

#

For that

craggy marsh
#

"XIV drama"

looks inside

oh...it's just relationship drama

rapid whale
#

since final fantasy appeals to all form of fiction enjoyers i guess it was only a matter of time before it drew in the delulus

craggy marsh
#

relationship drama is weird as fuck bc that shit should be taken care of behind closed doors

#

it's no one elses business

amber fable
#

Talking like adults?

#

Gtfo

#

We need validation okay

craggy marsh
#

XIV players needing validation they never got growing up

tall field
craggy marsh
tall field
#

goodluck in alliance raid if all 3 are main tanks

#

Let me MT i need my dps
NO I WILL MT I NEED MY counter attack
NO I AM MT i should also do counter attack

#

And well boss started spinning around

craggy marsh
#

so like

#

the counter attack will work on raidwides right? or is it only busters

tall field
#

any tbh

rapid whale
#

im guessing it's just like tbn for them

tall field
#

yea

craggy marsh
#

so then there should be zero issue with running double MT

remote gate
#

tbn removed but not really

wicked delta
#

these are the healers in your static prepare to wipe

tall field
#

lala healers? dw you are all safe

tall field
rapid whale
wicked delta
rapid whale
#

yoshi p this one

random needle
#

I like being a Hrothgal because no one knows what to expect

#

Will I put Eksu Plosion to shame? Will I grief harder than a malebun cheating on 23 Limsa egirls? Who's to say

remote gate
boreal pumice
#

which one do you think is tobi?

remote gate
#

also question elounge, if I get my bis armor pieces from m10s with my chest being tome chest, is there any reason to reclear m11s because I dont want to waste my time in there for repeats if i dont have to

rapid whale
#

left

remote gate
#

omg I forgot about legs 😭

thin fox
#

finally back into not poor territory

#

CHILLS

deep gale
#

can I have the spare 4.8k please im desperate

true beacon
#

ez 2m LM for sphene

deep gale
#

i would never play ffxiv

#

also what even happens in sphene

true beacon
#

780 skips Coro and AA

zealous meteor
deep gale
#

is coro the mechanic we ignored day 1

true beacon
#

that's AA

deep gale
#

I think I have literally one sphene clear lmao

#

Sounds like there's no fight left maybe it's time to go back and farm my wings

true beacon
#

still need to do earth

thin fox
#

where you form a # shape

deep gale
#

ah icic

thin fox
#

queued into a 29m windurst

true beacon
#

least its a fun fight

thin fox
#

free weekly coin

#

always keep ur duty in progress thing checked

true beacon
#

I've never had it on

deep gale
#

I gotta do the aliance raids

#

I can't believe there's content after unsubbing for 9 months funny how that works

thin fox
raven prawn
#

question, whats the difference between expert roulette and normal roulette?

#

do i get to be level 100 all the time and use everything in expert? or is it still level restricted?

remote gate
#

expert roulette are the two most recent dungeons to be released (7.5 dungeon and 7.4 dungeon)

#

in expert youll be at lv 100 since thats the level of the most recently released dungeon

#

level 100 dungeon roulette are any dungeons 7.3 and before

tulip wraith
#

then theres lvl cap roulette which is every 100 dungeon except the most recent 2

raven prawn
remote gate
#

90/80/70/60/50 are all the dungeons from those levels (youre probably going to get some bullshit dungeon like hakke manor hard)

wicked delta
#

Got a run with godlike crit luck and then we wiped cus someone else fucked up a mech

#

I am ending it all

remote gate
#

stampede?

wicked delta
#

YES

tulip wraith
#

dungeons so awesome they get 4 roulettes

wicked delta
#

DANCER TOOK A FIRE BLEED

tulip wraith
remote gate
#

can we get some SSR raiders to clear my goat toby please

#

i will voice act for the clear

wicked delta
#

I just wanna skip to 12 wallahi

tulip wraith
#

if you dont care for loot ill be a body :3

wicked delta
#

ion need loot lol

tulip wraith
#

but like /srs i would be down to help but im busy the rest of today soz

boreal pumice
#

aerid have you seen the changes in oc/ft

tulip wraith
#

like with 7.5?

#

or are there newer ones coming

#

i know pots are faster to kill and fates are slower

#

and 1 CE isnt enough re level after a FT wipe

#

and drop rates for random shit not from coffers got buffed

versed kayak
#

does someone have the gif of CoD where someone LBs and breaks the platform infront of them?

boreal pumice
brisk scarab
tulip wraith
boreal pumice
shy obsidian
#

wait what bug

boreal pumice
#

basicly everyone buff you have applied before enter fork tower gets wiped beside the dnc so you prebuff the 2% buff then swap off dnc and enter but now you cant carry that over

#

we called it rock gang

tulip wraith
#

interesting

boreal pumice
#

na never preused dnc buff b4 entering?

tulip wraith
#

not that I've been aware of

turbid haven
#

Are we allowed to talk about drama here?

loud nymph
#

I mean you can but if it involves streamers I guarantee nobody will care because they all fucking suck

turbid haven
#

I mainly watch 3, Xeno, Happy, and Arthars. But lately the amount of cringe has been annoying me from both xeno and arthars, lately more from xeno

loud nymph
#

yeah they all fucking suck

turbid haven
#

Xeno with his constant drama and AI stuff, I get the dood has went through alot of legal problems because of weirdos, but recently the mr happy drama seems like his own fault

loud nymph
#

it's all just farming engagement

#

stop watching dipshit streamers

turbid haven
vestal hollow
#

xeno is a misogynist bitchbaby

turbid haven
#

Ok who do I watch for ffxiv content? 😹

loud nymph
#

no one

#

it's a waste of your time and this game sucks to watch

vestal hollow
#

ffxiv content is very boring

#

outside of ult races

loud nymph
#

do literally anything else with your time

vestal hollow
#

you should play mixtape

turbid haven
#

Oh I forgot Sarah jane, shes cool

loud nymph
#

pick your belly button lint, I guarantee it's more productive than watching Streamer Content™

dull drum
#

thing is even for ult races majority dont even actually watch pull by pull

#

usually what happens is OH MY GOD THEY MADE PROGRESS and then one person comms it and everyone tunes in to see

#

and then OMG NEW PHASE!!!

#

back to bedge

sinful brook
#

i do the same thing with ult races as i do with live letters

#

i catch up after it ends

#

or i wait for the clees bait tweet to laugh

true beacon
visual geyser
#

watching xiv content oh my gad

deep gale
#

Any time I've considered watching any kind of Twitch stream I immediately get jumped by twelve ads that slipped under my ad blocker so I do not understand the appeal

visual geyser
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yknow what this game needs to add

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an easy way to see which fucking relic i have

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10 billion quests for the EW ones and i cant remember which ones i've gotten for certain jobs

worn bluff
random needle
tepid briar
wicked delta
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I like watching Dank Tank we play marbles

true beacon
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just saw 6 wings in a row drop for ZJ

worn bluff
wicked delta
worn bluff
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marbles has more variation than an FF raid

wicked delta
remote gate
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i progged ex7 and its not a bad fight at all but we didnt get past naught hunts

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is naught hunts the wall of the fight

tall field
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Naught hunts is
This how we do it
Center is always safe before orb rushes to you
Once you get tethered
Look at orb
Now go right assuming you look at orb.
It should take u to a boundary

Run cw

But yea some panic over this and cause havoc

clear plume
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And at this point of prog I’d place it likely in the can’t for a lot of people

tall field
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We had to eeler lb3

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After hunts

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6 died

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Hence

amber fable
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Its only like week 3 of ex

remote gate
tall field
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Yea cos some move it mid

remote gate
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am I doing the movement wrong or does that happen if orb movement isnt properly resolved at first?

tall field
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Orb chases by whats the shortest straight line distance between u and orb

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So if you angle urself (should you end up being after the running happened)

It will also accordingly change its path

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This change sometimes causes it go through mid if done badly

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And well

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Chiyo once posted an image of this

remote gate
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is it similar to eruption baits movement if that makes sense

tall field
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Of how orb chases

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Ye

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Can compare
Eruption also tracks ur str8 line path

remote gate
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think I can work with that concept

tall field
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Thatz why iirc hector thought to make the angle between arrows and tether 0°

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So the path remains same

true beacon
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wow

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The Arcadion is only 26k

dull drum
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i have warp ready thats all i got

jolly flume
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we are ready for sigma prog

stray forge
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im a chud

naive leaf
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could someone please explain to me specifically how to mitigate against Death Sentence in shinryu unreal

tall field
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Just pop short cd?

naive leaf
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damage reduction?

tall field
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Yea

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Tera slash you can use ur 40% and be fine

naive leaf
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cuz internet insists you can interrupt and i'm like uh. no?

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tera's fine. i'm frustrated specifically by death sentence in add phase

tall field
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Not that ive seen it works

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But ye just avoid those line aoes the other mobs do

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Since they give poison dot

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1 or 2 is fine but ye

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For death sentence i just pop my 90s unique mit with short cd and done (yes drk u have it 60s)BluNyaissa

naive leaf
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as OT i grab the 2nd farther hakkinryu that spawns in 2nd group but MT keeps grabbing it anyway

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hm.

tall field
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Same. Its not that bad

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Main is just kill em tbh

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Sometimes i grab threat and i didnt even use my full bursr

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Was like how

naive leaf
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well yes but dps is never high enough to kill them before that

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because i'm in PF hell :D

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but ok. thank you for the info

tall field
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Yeah you will have to face more then 1 wave

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But yeah grab big boi and spam aoe should be good. If mt grabs it its not a dps taking so all good

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The one strat i saw different vs hector

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Is

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The meteor placement

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Yesterday