endgame-lounge

[pale idol]

(Besides my expensive ass purchase for the courtly set just for the ilvl and slight upgrade from 99 tome upgrade)

[jolly flume]

gearing in this game is generally pretty free

[pale idol]

Gotcha, besides crafted?

I'll have to dig into the wiki, but I kinda like first hand experience, thank you guys for the response.

[jolly flume]

yea

you buy a crafted set every tier if you wanna raid and that's effectively it

[clear plume]

Compared to wow where you’re farming specific things for specific drops and doing endgame content to get vault etc etc in ffxiv it’s literally just do enough max level shit to get your 450 tomes a week, do alliance raids if off patch to upgrade that gear, and raid/current extreme for better gear drops from it specifically

Like the entire weekly treadmill for a character can be done in 2 hours

With just queueing for shit

[random needle]

Note that this means gearing one job is relatively painless, but if you're trying to gear several, you'll be choked at every turn by weekly caps for a long while

[pale idol]

That makes is so much more simple.

[pale idol]

I keep forgetting wtf to use these foir

[random needle]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Silver_Chocobo_Feather

Nothing too fancy you can get with these, it's mostly the golden ones that have the cool stuff

[pale idol]

😭

[rapid whale]

yeah like all the pain point in xiv comes from the fights themselves

the systems are all v chill

no reputation grind no 1 in 20k modifier rolls etc

you will question god once you start raiding /s

[pale idol]

Well.. the theme is deicide so i'd be questioning gods regardless

[raven prawn]

question. to finish endwalker, do i have to do a role quest, like i did shadowbringers?

[torn mesa]

no

[raven prawn]

SWEET

[tulip wraith]

it just unlocks dying the artifact armor and extra lore for old characters

[wicked delta]

its not high at all compared to what most ppl parse on the regular but a purple on m10s :) im very happy

[rapid whale]

purple is gud wdym

by definition most ppl do not parse higher than 50

https://klipy.com/gifs/mad-234--k01KREV5X9CE783W28BSNWHG54K

[random needle]

If I can get >50 on everything in Heavyweight, I'll be reasonably pleased with myself

[wicked delta]

idc about m9s

[boreal pumice]

Tobi has become a parse 🐒

[wicked delta]

but if i can get purples on everything else ill be very happy

like genuinely

i think it shows improvement on my end so

[random needle]

I just need to have a run of m11 where I don't have terminal brain cancer

[tulip wraith]

ayy

[craggy marsh]

I need a run of 12 where I have a reasonably good kill time

[tulip wraith]

ive also gotten some good parses i think my first savage tier has been going well

[craggy marsh]

But i'm done doing 12 forever in 2 weeks

[subtle sun]

Weirdly enough I got a .9 parse on m9s 😭😭

[nova needle]

Dude insta pulled the last boss of Third Walk lol

[true beacon]

Primal moment

[nova needle]

I'm from Primal, I don't claim this guy lol

[subtle sun]

I always wait for cs to end to pull anything as tank, I thought this was like common rule

Or atleast proper manners

[tulip wraith]

we had like 5 cs in the second HW raid and someone pulled so my friend just yoinked aggro and ran boss out of the arena to reset lol

[random needle]

Some people just have no respect, man

[tulip wraith]

people who double down on doing it are even worse

[dull drum]

oh yeah when the CS happened i tabbed out and then tabbed back in and boss was alr like 20% down

[subtle sun]

😦 well atleast it's only a small selection of people and not majority

[dull drum]

and they were arguing in alliance chat

i was just like whatever man just hit my buttons and get out

[tulip wraith]

i hate the argument of "just watch on youtube" or "you only missed like 2 raid wides" well i wanted to be there at the start :(

[subtle sun]

I feel like it's more impactful and immersive watching the cs vs going on YouTube, cause it's your WoL not the YouTubers

[sleek moon]

I accidentally facepulled my 2nd run of that alliance, didn't realize the aggro range was just a few steps ahead of the spawn

Was trying to look into the hole

[zealous meteor]

accidental pulls are fine

when its deliberate though...

like yeah it's a fairly long cutscene but also the content is two weeks old

[true beacon]

sometimes I right click a boss on mch

moving my camera

[zealous meteor]

and it saves maybe a minute for a 35 minute run
and only IF everyone skips the cutscene because you pulled

[sleek moon]

that happens to me like at least once per expansion when leveling a ranged dps lol

[zealous meteor]

yeah but that's an accident

it's only a problem if you proceed to be shitty about it

[finite plank]

pulling a boss while others are in cutscene only to leave the area to build gauge

genius

[wicked delta]

i lost with this roll

[remote gate]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-keyboard-what-is-your-problem-green-smash-gif-18195947

doo doo game

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-satanic-ritual-gif-3304658659514866408

you got me fucked up

[remote gate]

poverty typeshit LOL

[whole estuary]

missing a few zeroes there

[shy obsidian]

so how's the Unmaking?

[whole estuary]

good because it makes me read it as The Uma king

[shy obsidian]

but like. as a fight?

[tepid briar]

it's not bad

more straightforward since a lot of stuff is telegraphed

[tired egret]

lmao brokie

[tepid briar]

676767 gil lm

[nova needle]

I still don't get how loot rolling works but someone rolled a 15 on Zel wings and won them

[potent ruin]

They had the highest roll. LOL!

[nova needle]

Fml lol

[potent ruin]

Mean the rest of you rolled below 15 who's really unlucky? xD

[nova needle]

I just wanna be done with Zelenia, that fight is a visual nightmare for me lol

[potent ruin]

oh yea

effect filters are your best friend.

[nova needle]

Which says a lot with the amount of visuals in this game lol

[potent ruin]

❤️

[pale idol]

Zel fight was gorgeous 😭

[potent ruin]

But still a headache none-the-less. especially on extreme. RIP. ❤️

[pale idol]

That shit looks intimidating

It's like Ahriman got an upgrade

[potent ruin]

looks like hacked FFVII. xD

[pale idol]

Urgot Ahriman lmfao

[whole estuary]

interesting that they can merge with warmachinae, though less perfectly than things like statues or corpses

[potent ruin]

Ahri Guard Scorpion Man'

[pale idol]

Ok so that Line Aoe that bounces you.. how tf

https://tenor.com/view/lasers-happy-dance-break-in-deadbeat-gif-15408559

[cerulean crown]

it's a motion sensor. gotta stand still while it goes over you

[pale idol]

I did and it still bounced me 😠

So I did the DRG thing and flipped it

when a problem comes along, you must flip it

[cerulean crown]

a) the flip is still moving, b) did you disengage? you were auto-attacking

[pale idol]

I was locked on, pink aoe first > ran to corner away > let aoe hit> backflipped through sensor

Worked better than me standing and getting hitting again

I can confirm Elusive Jump works to go through sensor 👍

[tulip wraith]

someone i was mount farming with last night lost 2 98s

one of which to me

[pale idol]

it's him

[rapid whale]

grok i need an emote set of chort asap

[visual geyser]

maybe this server could make a chort emote instead of the ones we have

[jolly flume]

[dull drum]

might as well say you have a bomb strapped to your chest

[grand mesa]

[dull drum]

applies to static for caster position i check records, not a single caster log this guy is cooly he played reaper all tier

[jolly flume]

seems legit

easy game

[dull drum]

went from TOP p2 to clear instantly

prob studied hard

[jolly flume]

fight for babies

[sleek moon]

easier than uwu

[lyric summit]

will his head fit in that hood

[potent ruin]

yes!

100%!

[versed kayak]

it's probably super elastic

you'll look shrink-wrapped, but it'll fit

[proven pivot]

Enrage in an unreal, that’s a first

[weary junco]

How’s the endgame in this game?

[pale idol]

Fuckin sick

[potent ruin]

grey parse = enrage becomes a feature

[zealous meteor]

you're asking in the endgame channel, i think you can guess what the answer will be

[pale idol]

The music for this

[dull drum]

its aight

[potent ruin]

it's what you make it. via any game.

[fierce matrix]

My endgame is fishing

[versed kayak]

Dressing up your character is pretty fun yeah

ig there's raids too

[zealous meteor]

fishing's great

[tepid briar]

some of the ult weapons look so goofy

and then you have the cool shit like drk swords

and figment weapons, whm gets a cake on a fork

drk gets GLOWING SPRING PINK SWORD

[robust shoal]

drk weapons are always the best

and when the boss has a cool sword there's a decent chance drk gets to steal it

[jolly flume]

monk sharks

[whole estuary]

Shin-Zantetsuken (PLD gets the original), Kidomaru

[zealous meteor]

yeah the sharks are the best weapon in the game

not even a contest

[tepid briar]

weapon designer has a favorite

[whole estuary]

Sharks are one of the best MNK weapons by default, as 99% of MNK weapons are awful

[tepid briar]

some of the whm canes are really eh

I just glam to the bunny crescent

[whole estuary]

bnuuy staff good

[tepid briar]

which is only good because it was a contest weapon

[jolly flume]

I swapped off the crescent staff

[whole estuary]

The exquisite version takes too much focus off the bunny though, so it's a downgrade

[tepid briar]

same contest as the figment

[jolly flume]

I need a new egirl weapon

maybe the cake fork

[whole estuary]

I use the Hallowed Chestnut Cane

I like that it turns into a bud when sheathed

[tepid briar]

give us more cute whm weapons NOW

[tepid briar]

especially cause the ulti weapons suck 😭

[whole estuary]

the unsheathe sound is also sparkly

[sleek moon]

One of the dt whm relics is egirl af

[whole estuary]

The heart lantern!!!

[tepid briar]

heart lantern is decent buuut

[whole estuary]

the very first step

[tepid briar]

figment of spring is the ultimate egirl weapon

it's not even close

[whole estuary]

Ignus Egirlus

WHM finally gets its lantern equivalent

[jolly flume]

that reminds me

I still never opened my figmental coffer

[tepid briar]

figment of spring: WOW SO COOL BIG GLOWY

figment of summer:

their mistake for not putting "DID YOU KNOW IT GLOWS" on the ref sheet ig

[whole estuary]

was it supposed to glow?

most of the figment ones didn't, and a lot of the exquisite ones also seem tacked on by the devs

[tepid briar]

yeah see the whitespace

the japanese is probably like "look at the spiraling effect"

[whole estuary]

for summer

not spring

[tepid briar]

oh summer no

that's why I said everyone should've put "MAKE IT GLOW" in the ref sheet

[whole estuary]

Maybe make a separate matte coffer then

or an upgrade material as another map drop

some designs are better with, others without

[tepid briar]

yeah

imo figment of spring and the bunny crescent were definitely top 2 though

so deserved

[whole estuary]

but you can barely see the bunny anymore...

[jolly flume]

just be the bunny

[trim epoch]

Day 5 of leveling up scholar

[dull drum]

you mean summoner

[pale idol]

I wanted to go sage as my next class

[trim epoch]

Summoner but green

Just 4 more levels for the funny guaranteed crit

[wicked delta]

lord be good fix your gear

[random needle]

Fix your gear NOW

Do not wait a moment longer

[fierce matrix]

Brother your gear is suffering

You have 10hp

[true beacon]

put on some poetics

you're like 130 ilvl behind

[tepid briar]

just need a cone hat

[loud nymph]

a dunce hat, yeah, for wearing gear that's over 100 ilvls out of date

[rapid whale]

is that any good

[sleek moon]

this dude is too babyfaced to have that facial hair, reminds me of male viera using facial hair

[whole estuary]

mviera with sugar loaf hat

I was thinking the same thing

[trim epoch]

After this

I can’t fix mid dungeon

[vast jacinth]

You can ask if your teammates can repair for you

[loud nymph]

why are you entering dungeons with broken gear bro

[vast jacinth]

Also entering dungeond with broken gear is

[trim epoch]

Didn’t notice it before joining

[loud nymph]

your poor teammates

[pale idol]

cheeky

[loud nymph]

🙁

[vast jacinth]

Dont you get a warning when any piece falls under 10%

[fierce matrix]

You can lol

[loud nymph]

You do, yes

[fierce matrix]

Gotta pay attention, going in with that is griefing

[loud nymph]

but, y'know

gestures at ffxiv players and reading

[pallid kindle]

did you never notice your healthbar seems much lower than it should be

[trim epoch]

No

[pallid kindle]

i believe it

[trim epoch]

We made it

Going to the repair shop

A gust of wind

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-burning-robert-helpmann-markiplier-getting-over-it-rage-gif-1734552878806861009

[rapid whale]

[wicked delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122501748376997989/1462948977187098674/BF7A8979-82D0-49CC-9D29-4780F3625459.gif

[trim epoch]

Oh, 5,000 gil

..look man, i’m trying to save up for a lvl 100 ring

[loud nymph]

you don't even have level 70 gear

why do you need level 100 gear

[trim epoch]

For warrior

[loud nymph]

bruh

[trim epoch]

What?

[wicked delta]

why cant you buy gear with poetics tho

[shy obsidian]

Hear me out

[wicked delta]

no

[trim epoch]

They don’t sell lvl 100 poetics

[wicked delta]

no shit

[trim epoch]

With tomestone

[wicked delta]

im talking about your summoner

[trim epoch]

Oh

[loud nymph]

they meant for sch

[wicked delta]

you can just get poetics gear

[loud nymph]

why are you deliberately making it harder for yourself and for your teams

[wicked delta]

scholar yea

whatever

just get poetic gear

[trim epoch]

I forgot where it is tbh

[wicked delta]

its literally free

[loud nymph]

bruh

[trim epoch]

How do I check for my currency?

[wicked delta]

[loud nymph]

you're connected to the internet

Google exists

[wicked delta]

no no

fair question

google ai would make up some bullshit

[loud nymph]

well, true

[sleek moon]

ctrl c or click the gil icon

[trim epoch]

Oh, here it is

Thanks

[shy obsidian]

Dang that looks so empty

[wicked delta]

bro almost capped

please get the poetic gear

[trim epoch]

Oh I remember it

[tulip wraith]

new pb

[trim epoch]

It’s where the samurai place is

[wicked delta]

what fight did u get the barse on

[tulip wraith]

m10

the bj bros

[wicked delta]

niceeee

[trim epoch]

Also is it possible to trade rings?

Or is it just normal items

[pallid kindle]

can u be a little more specific

[wicked delta]

yea wdym

[trim epoch]

I’m missing 10 levels for this

So I was wondering if I could give someone a ring and they’d give me a ring with more item level

[pallid kindle]

how are you ilvl 700

go buy crafted gear

[sleek moon]

you prob want to get more gear before doing extreme trials

[pallid kindle]

PLEASE

[zealous meteor]

that's just a roegadyn

[wicked delta]

apparently theyre poor though

lol

[trim epoch]

I’m broke as fuck

[pallid kindle]

go do dungeons

and arcadion

[shy obsidian]

galka are hot tho

[sleek moon]

you can get full 770 from arcadion normal

[zealous meteor]

they didn't even bother tweaking the roe and miqo models at all

only the lala model got any changes (bigger nose)

[wicked delta]

ok but

can they even do heavyweight normal

if their lvl is so shit

[loud nymph]

no

[wicked delta]

ilvl

[zealous meteor]

needs ilvl 745

[wicked delta]

lmao

[zealous meteor]

so no

[loud nymph]

they should farm lvl 100 tomes

[sleek moon]

they do look different, galkas have a tail lol

[loud nymph]

to get 750/780 gear

to get into HW normal

[sleek moon]

mithras look a bit like the brown nosed catgirls but not entirely

[loud nymph]

to farm that

assuming gil for the crafted set is not an option

[zealous meteor]

it's mostly the ears for them

[trim epoch]

My set

[zealous meteor]

....i forgot about the tail
i was mostly talking about the faces

[trim epoch]

And also summoner drip

[pallid kindle]

well thats ironworks drip

i think

[zealous meteor]

that is... full left side AF?

[loud nymph]

yeah it is

also yes

[pallid kindle]

both your rings are aug credendum

[sleek moon]

also they gotta do LHW and cruiser and that will give gear

[loud nymph]

bro is slowly farming gil to buy Courtly Lover's instead of doing literally anything else

[sleek moon]

and prob should just msq tbh instead of trying to do extremes lol

[zealous meteor]

go do roulettes for tomes

and yes do msq

[wicked delta]

grabbing dungeon gear would unironically be more optimal

[loud nymph]

yeah, even just the yuweyawata stuff would be an upgrade

[trim epoch]

I finished msq

[loud nymph]

no you didn't

[trim epoch]

??

[loud nymph]

you finished 7.0

you did not do post DT

[sleek moon]

is this an alt job or something because you cant get to 7.5 with that ilvl, you cant do the later msq dungeons

[trim epoch]

Oh

[zealous meteor]

with ilvl 700 you can't queue into anything past 7.1

[loud nymph]

because you need better gear than 700 to do those dungeons

[shy obsidian]

get those rings replaced pls

[trim epoch]

It’s my main job

[sleek moon]

then yeah better do post 7.0 msq

those dungeons will give you gear and tomes

[zealous meteor]

yeah

[loud nymph]

do post 7.0 MSQ
run roulettes at level 100
farm level 100 tomes
get actual gear upgrades

[zealous meteor]

(underkeep requires ilvl 705, that's the 7.2 dungeon, so the absolute furthest you could've gotten with this gear is 7.1)

[pallid kindle]

good choice

[shy obsidian]

i'm genuinely a big hater of Everything Burns lmaoooooo

[loud nymph]

should be pa-paya

[zealous meteor]

replace everything burns with absolute tyranny

[wicked delta]

hell no

[shy obsidian]

hmmm also tempting

[zealous meteor]

our goat didn't become grand champion just to be the third floor!!!

[wicked delta]

id rather listen to 600 hours of everything burns than 1 hr of absolute tyranny

fucking hate m11s man

[sleek moon]

but he's not the champion anymore

[shy obsidian]

you will not survive the Solstice

[loud nymph]

HEAVY LIES THE CROWN, OR SO SAY THE WEAK

[wicked delta]

you will not survive party finder cus you havent even done the fight

[loud nymph]

SHUT UP AND KNOW YOUR PLACE

[remote gate]

SHUT UP AND KNOW YOIR PLACE

[loud nymph]

absolute tyranny goes so fucking hard

[zealous meteor]

LONG LIVE THE KING

[shy obsidian]

dude my prog parties can't even beat up two gay guys I don't think I can even get to the Tyrant at this pace

[trim epoch]

really wish they didn’t make tomestone stuff pretty expensive

I’m only able to get 4 pieces

[wicked delta]

prog lying is based and should always be done

[zealous meteor]

im really annoyed that koji's lyric "leak" doesn't have the second half of absolute tyranny's lyrics

[sleek moon]

well its not meant to be obtained in one day

[remote gate]

how else will square get your sub money to pay for the servers

[zealous meteor]

if you want gear fast, spend gil

[shy obsidian]

seriously though
Bee My Honey is just. on my mind 90% of the time
I love idol stuff SO MUCH

[wicked delta]

i like absolute tyranny on its own i just dislike it now bc i had to pf like 95% of it

[zealous meteor]

if you don't have gil, uh. oh dear

[wicked delta]

it was a miserable experience

so whenever i hear the song im like

fuck its that guy again

[shy obsidian]

idk the more I get stuck in prog hell the more I get addicted to a song

[trim epoch]

Only 134k

[shy obsidian]

I think I'm weird

[pallid kindle]

HOW

what are you spending this gil on

[zealous meteor]

roulettes give like 100k a day

[wicked delta]

wallahi ur poor

[trim epoch]

Rings for lvl 100 warrior

[rapid whale]

HIIIIIIIGHWAY TO HELL

[pallid kindle]

too many people recently have come in, severely undergeared, below the poverty line, wondering how to get a passible iLvl

[trim epoch]

Each costed 500k

[pallid kindle]

500k?

WHAT?

[trim epoch]

Yeah

[rapid whale]

? arent rings like 50k rn

[pallid kindle]

they are not that expensive

[trim epoch]

Lvl 100 rings

[shy obsidian]

the rings should be pretty cheap rn I think?

[tepid briar]

yo

[tepid briar]

lemme make some rings

[trim epoch]

Nvm it’s 300k

[wicked delta]

song from 1979 god ur old

[tepid briar]

[pallid kindle]

please use universalis

[shy obsidian]

at least kim here can exchange the rings for more.... augmented rings once they get more tomestones of math or something

[rapid whale]

o like 100k

[pallid kindle]

PLEASE use universalios

[zealous meteor]

this is why you check https://universalis.app/, kids

[wicked delta]

im watching a cat eat sushi

[loud nymph]

this is like what happened with a buddy of mine back in Shadowbringers

[wicked delta]

its very cute

[trim epoch]

Mf selling the snake oil of ff14

[zealous meteor]

i hope you did not buy these

[loud nymph]

he got to 80 spent like 4 million on exarchic

[trim epoch]

Nah

[shy obsidian]

wait uh. where in the Crescent do I get this????

[loud nymph]

then raged that he had no money

[rapid whale]

pure rng

[pallid kindle]

at least you bought the HQ version

[trim epoch]

Idk, i’m clueless 90% of the time

[loud nymph]

and I was like "bro you could have just traveled to another server and saved like 3 million"

[shy obsidian]

but WHERE

[pallid kindle]

rng from chests

[shy obsidian]

ah.

[trim epoch]

I didn’t even notice they were HQ

[loud nymph]

and he ragequit

[rapid whale]

diff accessries drop from diff sources but basically everything drops something and its like 1 out of 5k drop rate

[shy obsidian]

ngl I'm tempted to use my funny coins and funny nuts on glaze 🥺 but I gotta save for TWINE

[wicked delta]

the real hack is to become rich enough that you stop checking prices

[pallid kindle]

you can just do the AR

[shy obsidian]

what

[rapid whale]

the thing is u dont get rich by not caring about prices

[shy obsidian]

no i mean

[pallid kindle]

do the alliance raids

[trim epoch]

I was hyped to try out my first extreme trial

But I gotta grind

[shy obsidian]

when I GET my coins I gotta use em on twine and not glaze
but I'm SO TEMPTED to get glaze instead

[loud nymph]

tbf

you don't want to go into an old extreme with minimum ilvl

[pallid kindle]

if you're gonna try an ex trial you should just do enuo

[loud nymph]

especially not that one

[wicked delta]

i can take ffxiv art commissions and gil cap within like 2 weeks if i really wanted to

[pallid kindle]

its gonna be easier to find a party for enuo and you'll get useable weapons

[shy obsidian]

hmmmm
should I spend my tomestones of math on rain or occult weapons hrmmmm hmggeeee hmmmmmmmmm

[rapid whale]

u'd get banned

[wicked delta]

bro cant even do sphene be realistic here

[sleek moon]

i have 1.5b of spending money rn and i still end up waiting for things to get cheaper

[loud nymph]

people are going to gatekeep in pf anyway ain't no one posting a sphene pf with a min ilvl below like 760

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/bnuuy-bunny-eat-eating-bunny-eat-gif-8046435392985148926

[trim epoch]

Yeah I can

[pallid kindle]

no you cant

you're ilvl 700

[loud nymph]

no, you can't

[pallid kindle]

so, you literally cannot

[wicked delta]

you posted a screenshot of you being unable to

[trim epoch]

We’re not talking about the normal one?

[shy obsidian]

nop

[pallid kindle]

?

[wicked delta]

well obviously not

[trim epoch]

Oh

[pallid kindle]

you already did sphene normal

[rapid whale]

buy a full courtly lover's set, find the cheapest price using universalis; the total set shouldnt cost more than 2m

[loud nymph]

why would we be talking about normals

[wicked delta]

they have like 100k

thats not happening

[rapid whale]

ic

[trim epoch]

144k

[pallid kindle]

they spent like 600k on rings

wait

[trim epoch]

1 million

[pallid kindle]

you didnt spend it on rings

because you dont have them equipped

[shy obsidian]

should I uh
cover the costs
I can MAYBE craft some stuff?

[pallid kindle]

you're using the 90 poetics rings

[loud nymph]

they should just do roulettes at 100 for tomes

then buy tome gear

also do hunt trains

[pale idol]

these are fun as hell

[rapid whale]

i no longer pity the fool

[pallid kindle]

you'll also get materia you can sell for gil

[trim epoch]

These 3

The green one

[loud nymph]

idt materia sells for much anymore but sure

[shy obsidian]

whaddabout these

[loud nymph]

that market kinda deadge

[trim epoch]

I didn’t have enough

[trim epoch]

Inflation in this game is wild

[shy obsidian]

get some gil I suppose

[pallid kindle]

you spent triple what you had to 😭

or double

one of the two

[rapid whale]

ok this is gonna sound rly mean and im sry but this is like meeting a celebrity irl; i always wondered who the people were who never check universalis and just buy things for like 5x the price and now i know

poor sprouts who just dont know any better

[pallid kindle]

if the price is small enough i wont care enough but man

LOL

[shy obsidian]

sometimes I see the prices on universalis and just get the expensive shit on my server anyways because I can't be assed to take the time to travel

[rapid whale]

yea

like 6 digits is kinda dgaf territory

but thats cuz i got monies

[shy obsidian]

same hehe

[pallid kindle]

mid-high 5 digits and i definitely care

[shy obsidian]

the first week of courtly lover's gear was hype

i got MONEH

I GOT RICH

[rapid whale]

those things were going for like what 5m a pop

[pallid kindle]

but i have the plugin that'll show it in game so if its not that different its whatever

[trim epoch]

Guess i’m doing the msq

[loud nymph]

do your roulettes on warrior too

doing roulettes on a max level job gives you max level tomestones

[shy obsidian]

ooh yeah you can do the next dungeon in the MSQ

[loud nymph]

and you can put them towards actual gear

[pallid kindle]

you can also do khloe and if you get 1 line you can get some tomes through there

[trim epoch]

I can’t

[shy obsidian]

and you can get okayish gear from it hehe

[pallid kindle]

do the others

[loud nymph]

you have other roulettes

[pallid kindle]

actually

go to tuliyollal

go do those 2 dungeons

[loud nymph]

do leveling, do alliance raid, do msq

[trim epoch]

Already did the others

For scholar

[pallid kindle]

do every blue quest in tuliyollal

[daring pine]

saw m12sp2 enrage

ez

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-13190927998255873843

@loud nymph psst

kinger

[trim frost]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/G-G3VwQa0AAMi0l.mp4

[dusk sky]

12p2 is funny, it's not so much failing the dps check as it is hobbling through idyllic with too many deaths

one too many weaknesses and that third replication is a looming sword

[loud nymph]

I believe in u

get that clear sis

u can do it

[daring pine]

honestly idyllic seemed daunting at first but then i actually did it and it was just

"oh, okay"

[loud nymph]

idyllic looks rly hard but it's actually v easy to pull off

as long as you have some way to remember

[dusk sky]

that brain slowdown moment bracing for someone else to have fucked up and half the team gets sent off by their defam

[loud nymph]

whether that's callouts or macros or just plain fuckin memory

[dusk sky]

actually I was that defam last week I have no place

[daring pine]

i had defam and i think the healers had a brain fart because i went back in for the stack after and i had 70k health

[loud nymph]

the sim helps a lot too ofc

[daring pine]

umm

guys

guys there's a stack guys

[tulip wraith]

besides static lead having macros, i desperately need this cheat sheet

towers hurt my brain

[loud nymph]

I just remember "near north"

[dusk sky]

I did Wind correctly for the first time last week

aaaaand prompty forgot my doom cleanse

[daring pine]

i got wind for the first time today and i'm a dumbass and somehow did not realise i had wind

[dusk sky]

then died to the misplaced laser

[loud nymph]

so if I'm not the near arrows I know I need to be middle

[daring pine]

i thought i had doom

so i was aiming away from everyone else

[loud nymph]

since melee fire/earth always goes north too

[daring pine]

then i just get flung into oblivion

xd

[trim epoch]

Yuwawiwa dungeon unlocked

Time to do what i’m best at

[rapid whale]

it's okay everybody knows the proper solution to towers in idyllic is healer lb3

[trim epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-cleave-final-fantasy14-warrior-fell-cleave-gif-23998455

[daring pine]

sometimes i wish our dancer was a bard

[rapid whale]

mb i just love throwing it back

[daring pine]

bapple i recently stopped caring about my parse in reclears because something scuffed always happens to fuck it up

[rapid whale]

it's true

and then you parse higher

[daring pine]

i mean last week i got blue so maybe you're right

on 11 specifically*

which was the only one that hadn't gotten blue yet

oh last week i did better on 12p1 as well

damn i think my static lead forgot to log this week lmao

[wicked delta]

i was on the way of getting a great barse once and then i got sniped by someones aoe

i was so fucking mad

[daring pine]

this has happened to me so many times i just became numb to it

[rapid whale]

that feeling when you know you played then get hit with bad crit rng congrats on your purple

[trim epoch]

Really stupid of me

Shoulda waited

Thought the fight was done since me and the healer died

[true beacon]

There’s a summoner and you can use Phoenix downs in dungeons now

[tight wing]

holy based

Kyrios Astraeus of Gilgamesh, if you are seeing this, you are my goat

[rapid whale]

I've joked about doing that but to actually do it sheesh

[tepid briar]

wait what does that mean

oh you mean they'll delete their weapon so they can need on it LMFAO

[wicked delta]

That’s funny as fuck icl

[boreal pumice]

funny for a time but then you get a rep and suddenly ppl put you on a list / google doc and your like whys no one wanna play with me

[rapid whale]

look

if wk and big mac can still play the game anyone can

[amber fable]

People will play with you even if you were a weeb police

[tight wing]

spill the tea

[rapid whale]

wdym

[tight wing]

who are they

and what did they do lol

[rapid whale]

1 is known for being giga toxic in pf, micromanages everyone so that they dont have to press a single heal after not telling anyone they plan to play that style

[valid solar]

one of them is a healer who is famous for micromanaging his party so he doesnt have to heal and the other was arrested for domestic abuse

[dull drum]

at least WK sang DSR

[rapid whale]

im talking all caps yelling at ppl for not playing "properly" aka in a way that lets them never gcd heal

[dull drum]

lowkey content

[rapid whale]

and yea the other one is a convicted da w/ a bunch of instances of every -ist you can imagine

[tight wing]

holy shit lol

[rapid whale]

racist misogynist etc

[dull drum]

recently they had a 1v1 with that proximity voicechat cousin in limsa

[rapid whale]

theres even a song by the micromanager

oh yea true that was gold

[dull drum]

the tldr was Big mac was just ulting and dropping slurs left and right so

[tight wing]

about what lol

[dull drum]

dsr

[tight wing]

lb4

[rapid whale]

raging about ppl not mitting in m11s

idt i can send here but it's p great

[boreal pumice]

its a forum post so why not

[tepid briar]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K5I0jVKKXx0

[tepid briar]

is this watashia

[rapid whale]

yes

[dull drum]

the sound file? i mean the only thing somewhat questionable is he drops the names of "good" players

[rapid whale]

i meant more like i dt the server has perms for ppl to send sound files

o...

erm

i delet

[ember quartz]

chat what is your favourite book

mine is final sentence

i always have it read to me

https://tenor.com/view/true-nisi-ff14-ffxiv-final-fantasy-gif-15050819648323011306

[robust shoal]

my favorite book

[rapid whale]

the rule book to 1974 dnd because that led to the creation of final fantasy

[dapper zealot]

hmm

[dull drum]

they shoulda made it a squishy

to be in line with current gens

[sleek moon]

[rapid whale]

How does a pitch for a product like that even go wtf

[whole estuary]

praise be to the scree

"approved"

[tulip wraith]

back to the TT farm

join my mount farm bait

[craggy marsh]

Thank you, Chort

[tulip wraith]

this is crazy no card drop

[tulip wraith]

im gonna hit mount pity before i get a card huh

[shy obsidian]

what's your favorite Wicked Thunder quote

[robust shoal]

(Screaming while implanting electrope into herself)

[shy obsidian]

egads.....

how do you not go insane doing that a hundred times tho

[robust shoal]

idk

I'm ngl being neurospicy probably helps

It's just a fun fight though

[tulip wraith]

just to make sure, theres no way to trade in totems for TT card right

[robust shoal]

It's choreographed enough that I could plan out exact rotations but had enough randomness to keep my brain on

And doing a 100% perfect cast timeline for 12 minutes is pretty satisfying

[shy obsidian]

imagine if we could

[robust shoal]

I also had goals I worked on for a decent chunk of my clears

AKA getting a 99 on every tank plus VPR

so glad WAR only took me 6 clears I hate that job

I swear I got a 95 on NIN in E10S but I don't have any log of it

other than that it was my first time getting orange+ on a DPS in savage

not in ulti but ulti parsing is a different beast

[undone tide]

i have not actively played this game in months what have i done to deserve this immediately upon tping to limsa

[craggy marsh]

I tried ult parsing once and idk I didnt really vibe with it

[robust shoal]

ulti parsing is weird

imo you don't have to be as good at your job to parse ulti as savage

you can just learn what buttons to press in each uptime phase

[craggy marsh]

My parses this tier are weird bc im doing good damage and hitting my buttons fine but I still end up with blue/purple bc of bad kill times

Like im satisfied and happy

[robust shoal]

you're also still subject to the whims of killtime and whatnot and some ultis you really have to be a bad person to get a good parse

I deadass got a 5th percentile perfext xiva run of doorboss wk1

like I trust myself to confirm that I'm playing drk properly

and crit/killtime is a bitch ig

I even got the forbidden 6 edge pot window

[craggy marsh]

I managed to find a little friend static a few weeks back and we have fun but yeah the killtimes are really noticeable

They arent like awful killtimes

But they're enough to turn a would be orange into a purple

I also keep getting murdered during stampede bc people can't do 2 way fireball

[robust shoal]

we just mitted and had tethers stay out of fireballs lol

it's not perfect but you can see the trend of killtime vs parse

[craggy marsh]

Ya

[brisk scarab]

I wanna get into parsing high tier stuff

[craggy marsh]

I know I can't control killtime bc the 7 other people also need to help with that but it do feel bad sometimes

[brisk scarab]

I do savage/ex and all the content, but I dont keep up on BiS or Savage tiers sometimes

[craggy marsh]

But we're not a serious parse group so it doesn't get me too much

I'm blue or higher and that's good enough for me

[robust shoal]

my parses this tier are trash but it is what it is

I really want to spend more than 10 minutes per week doing each fight

kinda felt rusty on reclears because of it

[craggy marsh]

In 8.0 I want a fresh reset to my raiding and actually try getting into a proper group

I'm confident that I can do it

[brisk scarab]

I have orange parsing for the EX II grouping on FFLogs

When I occassionally check I get blues/purples if I run the content long enough

[tulip wraith]

im praying and hoping for evercold

[shy obsidian]

I'm going with reaper for da story for Foreverchill, but what should I go with for the raids....

hmmmmmm

if anything I'm probably gonna be dancing or barding..

[tulip wraith]

idek what to being to think what the rates for cards are, but surely better odds then 0 in 35 runs

[tulip wraith]

im gonna go ast for everything :D

[brisk scarab]

Black Mage all the way for me

started the game with it, and now it's my main job

Although I do love running DRK and RDM too

I levelled Picto, but I wanna play em more often

[shy obsidian]

idk I can definitely heal, but healing scares me sometimes lmao

puts me off sometimes

yknow I really gotta wonder

how do ya think healing's gonna change?

[robust shoal]

same as usual, it won't

[dull drum]

in 8.0? not much if i had to guess

[robust shoal]

though assize+asylum being gone is

[dull drum]

only thing is if the insta cast on attack gcds is just a whm only thing or applies to the other healers

if its healers as a whole then lmao

[robust shoal]

if they don't give it to everyone people will complain

though it's funny how current whm is stationary while doing damage and uses heals to move and evolved is stationary while healing and uses damage to move

[tall field]

I hope i can keep an OT tank in ec i can enjoy

Since i am well aware the new tank gonna be everywhere in pf

Since paladin fights it for MT slot

Gotta find statics where MT slot is empty

[daring pine]

hey cats

[tall field]

Or find one of WAR/DRK/GNB and not worry

To main in high end

[robust shoal]

[tall field]

May pick up drk for evercold

[daring pine]

cats i am no longer plagued by worrying about my barse in static reclears

cuz reclears are scuffed

[tall field]

The game alr taunts me rn with giving me ex weapons that a drk can use

[daring pine]

:D

and rarely smooth

[robust shoal]

😄

[tall field]

2 times i got dark knight weapons from extremes

[daring pine]

conveniently i also parsed better when i stopped caring

🤔

[tall field]

I swear if enuo gives 3rd drk weapon 8.0 time to be edgy

[robust shoal]

something something attachment is suffering

[daring pine]

i have all blue except for m10 which is ourple

for baby raider im happy

that was my goal

but next expac i wanna get more purple

[trim frost]

yay!

i finally locked down all purple this tier i’m pleased with myself

i don’t think i’ll strive for higher because i don’t really see a point

[robust shoal]

ourple is a good goal to set tht you can hit without going insane

[craggy marsh]

Lindwurm 2 is the only one im missing a purple on

Am sitting at a 74 I think

[brisk scarab]

I wanna complete this tier but its prob too late

I could probably clear Tyrant at least

[trim frost]

i got a 90 during a merc bc we all just locked tf in

my first clear was a 67 tho lmao

[brisk scarab]

How bad is Lindwurm

[robust shoal]

final floors are usually hard to parse well on because they self-select for people who are good at the game and have access to savage weapon

[brisk scarab]

I had a bad habit this expansion of doing half of the tier and just not finishing it

College and Work kinda just halted my grind

[trim frost]

my orange this tier was a complete accident i feel like

i just played normally and it came out like that

[robust shoal]

man

ulti in 3 weeks

[valid solar]

I really need to clear 12

[jade nimbus]

I'm a forever green

[trim frost]

why

[jade nimbus]

Like I don't think I'm bad at the game, but I rarely get a blue or a purple parse in savage

[trim frost]

gear diff or skill diff

[jade nimbus]

Mostly skill diff

I play viper on controller, so I do not have much excuses. I don't fully align 2 min from what I can see and mess some other small stuff

[loud swift]

the more u practice the fight the better you get with ur timings

and ofc the more you play

i got a purple like... once at the start of heavyweight savages cuz i played reaper lol

then after that it was just greens n blue, but i also get hella gear mogged cuz im not focused entirely on savages

[jade nimbus]

Ye, my avarage for tyrant is 42 for example, so not too bad, but also not too good

[brisk scarab]

I wanna be savage focused in Evercold

[jade nimbus]

I'm more concerned about the fact my static wants to do Kefka ngl, so I don't think I'll be able to meet an ulti dps check on patch

[trim frost]

is ur static any good

[jade nimbus]

The majority is better than me and 1-2 are like on par as far as doing damage goes

If the group parse number on fflogs is any indication we have like 75-85 on m12 and m11

[trim frost]

as what role tho

i feel like if ur healer it's less meaningful for u to parse cuz u gotta pick up the slack when shit goes awry

[robust shoal]

what are you defining as on par?

you certainly don't need oranges to contribute to ulti dps check

[trim frost]

also hard to make judgments without seeing the actual logs

[robust shoal]

either way, communication is always key

there's still time to make adjustments if you hash things out now

[trim frost]

dye spectrum changes might be the most goated update this expac honestly

[loud swift]

i love it

i now have all the browns in one item

[jade nimbus]

I'm viper, like this was the latest log on m12s, altough for this one I know I did pretty bad on this pull
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/ZJVFxd6PkBhLTKnc?fight=17&type=damage-done

[loud swift]

no more needing to go to a random ass vendor or off the market board for a certain shade

[trim frost]

not having to run back and forth between my retainer and the dresser (on top of not having to allocate like 80 slots) is a godsend

[loud swift]

if they could do one more thing, it is to add a similar system to fishing baits. a tacklebag system i guess

my saddlebag is now filled with baits instead of dyes!!

[jade nimbus]

Anyway ye, I still want to try kefka as my first on patch Ulti and if goes poorly it is what it is

[trim frost]

well at least it's not a gear issue

the downside of vpr being rotationally simplistic is that everything you do has much more of an impact

dropping procs, overcapping, not bursting correctly, etc.

[robust shoal]

on-patch ulti is a big commitment for sure

I think dps check will be passable but you'll need to be pretty clean

[jade nimbus]

Ye, the only gear upgrade will be the relic weapon too, no?

[robust shoal]

yeah, which is coming out a while after ulti

maybe still when you're progging if you're not doing big hours

forgor exactly how long between

[jade nimbus]

Ye, we'll be pretty casual about it, so it'll prob take an hot minute if we stick to it

[robust shoal]

it won't be a game changer though

[trim frost]

can i ask what you think you need to improve on

[robust shoal]

the important thing is for everyone to be on the same page wrt expectations

[shy obsidian]

i feel like the same thing happens with reaper
like... if I mess up even once I fear completely messing up double enshroud lmao

[robust shoal]

you'll be spending a lot of time on it and it's crucial for everyone to be wanting to spend that time how you are

[jade nimbus]

I'd say mostly keeping my buff uptime as it sometimes drops and use all my OGCD as I miss a few. I feel like 2 min I'm doing it fine in light of the fact it is pretty simple on vpr (just send 2 reawekens)

[jade nimbus]

Oh, ye, they're the one wanting to do the Ulti first. I honestly never tried to do Ultis on patch

[trim frost]

part of double reawaken is making sure that you come out of it without breaking anything too

no combo drop, buff drop, vicewinder overcap

[robust shoal]

yeah, just like, if there's a big skill/commitment gap it can start to come to a head

[jade nimbus]

Ye, that almost never happens. I usually have the combo finisher/ranged skill into the vicewinder after burst

[robust shoal]

a lot of statics hit IRL enrage doing ulti

and if you're taking it casually it's ironically a bigger commitment than some hc statics because you're spending so much irl time on it

also, I'm gonna be biased here, but I'm gonna plug the balance for any concerns you might have for prog

vpr mentors I can confidently say know their stuff from when I dropped in to ask how to 99 on m4s

there will be a UMAD thread for every job in their encounter channel

vpr has a lot of juice floating around in their gauge so proper prioritizing of that is something that they'll help out with

[jade nimbus]

Got it, I'll check if I see I'm struggling

[trim frost]

balance op

[raven prawn]

isnt that also a skill thing, HC statics and semi HC statics tend to have better players than casual guilds

least thats my experiance

[robust shoal]

yeah

just, if a hc static has troubles then you've got a rough couple of weeks maybe

but if you're doing 6 hours a week you're gonna stretch that stress out into months

[raven prawn]

in my experiance across a few mmos, you tend to work as a player growing from casual to semi hc to then full blown hc guilds, least thats what i do in MMO's, casual to learn and get better, semi hc to learn even more and then hc to finish learning and become the mentor

[amber fable]

It does goes like that but honestly its the mindset more than time investment, both matter but former is more important

Another thing is the casual hardcore difference isnt some hard and fast distinction

You can be hardcore player wanting to clear everything week 1 then eventually just switch to clearing it eventuallyTM

Or vice versa

[solar apex]

For me it depends on what difficulties the game even offers. I could go full HC or simply know how it would be done but not bother with it

I'm never going back to EVE null for example

Yet I still do trig hunting and combat exploration

[dusk sky]

Real… I’ve savage raided since they were added but ultis have always felt just a liiiittle too above my… patience levels

Like I don’t think I’m not skilled enough, I’ve seen the people who have ulti weapons.

But just the intensity, and endurance of it all

I’m comfy with having an on-content clear of A8S

[wicked delta]

I really wanna try ultimates but the lack of checkpoints really hurts

DSR doesn’t count

Being like 16 mins in and then wiping the group is exceptionally painful

[dapper zealot]

perfect, do umad

I believe

[dusk sky]

The way my brain handles repetition and pattern memorization, in fact in my current sav static they’re all ulti folk so like,

They get the muscle memory and have whole ass conversations mid-pull of 11S

I cannot

But locking in like that for every pull prob wears most down fast esp in an ultimate so haha

Like, say, Mythics in WoW were doable for me since each encounter only goes so long but the randomness of boss queueing you do need to be locked in

[amber fable]

Its just repetitions really

For me atleast..i wont do ult till I get a static

Its too much waste of a time to do it in pug

savage is my patience threshold for pug

[grand mesa]

ffxiv is just catgirl band class

press the right button to the beat

[rapid whale]

god can you imagine you actually had to time your gcd's

instead of queueing them

[terse zodiac]

Evolved dancer preview

[rapid whale]

imagine u had to hit positionals on your dp during tech step

[amber fable]

Dnc steps should be like monk

Honestly

[terse zodiac]

I think itd be cool not positionals but your positioning will matter, you have to get close to someone to buff them or something

[amber fable]

Each step does damage

Doing specific steps gives big damage skill

[terse zodiac]

No more dance partner its just a fluid thing you do by positioning youtself

[rapid whale]

fk it bro we turn dance steps into mudras

you now have control over which dance comes out

[amber fable]

Yesh basically that

[rapid whale]

build 1 dance charge every 20s or w/e mudras is

we putting nin in the retirement home

[terse zodiac]

I cant wait for the meltdowns bc no matter what jobs are gonna be different

[amber fable]

I just wanna know how evo plays for all

[dusk sky]

The type of neurospice to be good at picking up patterns but bad at performing them consistently

Cries in rhythm games

[rapid whale]

we prob wont know until media tour

i think they also hid what the level 100-110 abilities were

[terse zodiac]

I hope so

[rapid whale]

so ppl dooming about pld/whm i think r a bit over reacting

but maybe im the one coping

[amber fable]

It was alpha footage

[terse zodiac]

Bc pld was just current with a counter

[amber fable]

Pld was using continuation

[rapid whale]

yea resource bars werent even done yet

[dusk sky]

Hey now, and a passage follow-up heal

[amber fable]

Every job gets continuation

[rapid whale]

it just became the 'generic ogcd button" right

[amber fable]

Yea

[terse zodiac]

Counter and that followup could be the only additions for 10 levels

[dusk sky]

But yeah I think BRD far and above did the best at nailing some new type of “job identity” and “player expression”

[amber fable]

Brd gets communio

But it can move?

Dont remember if you could

[dusk sky]

I’m still not worried about the “evolved will do slightly more dps” bc that feels likely to be compensation for each having their own flow and not aligned party damage

Or so I believe

[amber fable]

Rdps wont exist

[terse zodiac]

Its completely up in the air too

[rapid whale]

they can change anything between now and jan yea

hell look at what they did to blm in dt they can even make huge changes after

[terse zodiac]

Theyre aiming for them to be equal as possible, they will misstep somewhere obviously, some jobs will def be better in each mode

[dusk sky]

“Each having their own flow,” …DRG needing 90s for Drakesbane and BRD cycling 3 songs at 30s each

Worst case we’re entering 90s bursts

[amber fable]

Depends on timeline

[rapid whale]

? i thought they explicitly stated evolved is gonna be stronger

[amber fable]

What if boss downtime during 90

[terse zodiac]

He said right now comparing the two evolved is very slightly stronger for the most part

[rapid whale]

just that "content will be clearable in reborn"

icic

[dusk sky]

“Slightly,” yeah

[amber fable]

So 10% better

[terse zodiac]

10% better and no point even playing endgame lmao

[dusk sky]

In my mind “slightly better” could also mean “when played well,” depends on the skill floor and ceiling

[amber fable]

Since positional do matter

As seen in drg

[rapid whale]

i could also see it being a matter of like, the gap between evolved/reborn is about as big as "best to worst melee"

my concern however is that we're gonna get another LHW where 1) 1st tier of an expansion is always easiest, and 2) they tune it to be even easier to make sure reborn mode players dont struggle either

[amber fable]

Depending on fight..could be that rbn perform better due to phase causing poor evo alignment

Since rbn will be same burst as its now

With some addition

[rapid whale]

idk if i buy that since alignment not gonna matter as much due to all party buffs being gone

[amber fable]

As in your usages goes down

[dusk sky]

Not all gone, BRD had radiant finale- prob bc it flows into radiant arrow

[rapid whale]

all party wide dmg buffs r gone

[terse zodiac]

If anything theyll always be worse bc you evolved so far seem to burst faster

[rapid whale]

they said so explicitly

[amber fable]

You cant burst as much vs rbn

Buffs dont matter

The big hits essentially

[terse zodiac]

Parse not gonna be killed for not killing right after a 2 min window

[amber fable]

Rn drg is 60 min cycle..and evo is 90?

[dusk sky]

Unless it’s part of their job indentity, which prob mostly matters for DNC, AST, kinda SCH

[terse zodiac]

Evolved is 60

[amber fable]

So if downtime comes in say 75 sec

[rapid whale]

no it's gonna be 113.263s cycle /s

[dusk sky]

I believe so, 30s for jump > Dexter, 30s for jump > Sinister

Did he need a third jump for Drakesbane

[rapid whale]

i thought the jump just took away positional requirement

and the positionals were just on a 20s resource timer

[dusk sky]

Oh yeah, confusing vengeful jump with the gauge for Dexter/Sinister/Whatever

[amber fable]

Hypothetical scenario basically

[rapid whale]

idk like if everyones losing an activation it is wat it is

[amber fable]

Can make it so that some fight favour one mode over other

[rapid whale]

that would be nice

[dusk sky]

Oh yep I totally misremembered the timers, Dragonsbane stacks every 10s, up to 3

[rapid whale]

idk if that'll actually occur but i like the idea

im all for someone showing "true mastery" over their job by min/maxing which mode based on the fight/party comp

[amber fable]

I took drg as a example but any job with altered burst cycle

[terse zodiac]

If they were longer yes but they have all been shortened

So far

[amber fable]

Yeah i dont see anything beyond 60 sec cycle

Maybe 40 or some 30s

With charges

[rapid whale]

i do think something interesting to come out of this is how pot timings is gonna affect burst windows

[dapper zealot]

Having a variety of different cycle would be cool

[rapid whale]

since there will be a "mathematically best rotation to use under a pot" vs "you gotta use pot now or lose an activation" type shit

and how you set up those pot windows to be as close to the 1st one

i think that will be the true test of how well they satisfy th eflexibility claims of ec jobs

[sleek moon]

cannot wait for "evolved is boring because everyone uses everything on cooldown and there's no coordinating"

[dusk sky]

Vengeful Jump is weird to me bc they talked like it’s meant to be utility but it builds the Blood stacks for Stardiver

average dev moment tho

[rapid whale]

It also seemed to do DMG?

[dusk sky]

Like the true north aspect is w/e you’re gonna be using them off cd to build up to Stardiver/Sky Highs

[rapid whale]

Putting DMG on gap closer seems wrong

[rapid whale]

Idt that happened weren't they just using the positional after the jump

[terse zodiac]

It still has elusive

[rapid whale]

Oo

[amber fable]

With no buff windows

It has more utility usage

Depends on potency

If its high then you will wanna use it on cd for usages

Or maximize usages

If its like 150 or so then overcapping wont feel as bad

[dusk sky]

Vengeful Jump was stacking Blood of the Dragon, Sinister/Dexter consume Dragonsbane and having both their buffs opens Winged Chaos - but he essentially did what would be his opener, afterwards you’d be Jumping every 20 and spending a Dragonsbane every 10

Or pooling either for a burst

60s for every Stardiver; 30s for every Winged Chaos

[rapid whale]

I wonder if you can hold onto enough to get double star diver under pot

[terse zodiac]

Should be able to

If timing stays the same

[dusk sky]

Oh yeah, I forgot it’s a combo

[rapid whale]

I'm imagining it working similar to how picto doing double comet under buff

[dusk sky]

Stardiver > Sky High > Heavens’ Fall