endgame-lounge

[worldly grotto]

Elite ball knowledge

[timber stratus]

pool cue shooting

[kind elm]

holy

[dapper zealot]

Frisbee

[timber stratus]

that would be aura

[worldly grotto]

Every game should have a Venom equivalent character

He’s just so cool

[timber stratus]

realium shakespeare

[kind elm]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-true-true-undertale-gif-7033919807107339013

[wind cypress]

knowing ff14 though, new classes will have the dumbest combination of weapons imaginable like a shield cannon or blade whip or something

[tacit kestrel]

Both sound dope tho

[wind cypress]

next thing you know we have a blitzball class with a free cow-lick hair cut thrown in

https://tenor.com/view/wakka-ffx-doubt-glaring-gif-18415878

[clear plume]

Blitzball copers have been wrong since arr fanfest going into hw

[boreal pumice]

what comes first butt slider or blitzball

[dapper zealot]

Ass

[clear plume]

Heat death of the universe an option?

[loud nymph]

blitzball slider

I like big blitzballs and I cannot lie

[sleek moon]

Blitzball with fall guys netcode

[limpid edge]

No blitzball?

Curious how tight the pld parry window is and if the netcode can handle it

[timber stratus]

8 seconds for the bad one and 4 for the good one iirc

[sleek moon]

It's basically shield swipe

Tied to the duration of holy Shelton short and long buffs

[limpid edge]

I see

How's jp's response to the evolve spec?

[dusk sky]

Rejoicing the death of 2mins has been what I’ve mostly heard

[quick flame]

Did they mention in the dev panel that evolved jobs will have faster GCD speeds?

[visual geyser]

Yes

[limpid edge]

How much faster

[tepid briar]

I saw the whm change and they're pretty good, though only two things I'm concerned about are

• idk whether a caster should get instant cast gcd damage
• a bit iffy on being able to heal all gcds without DPS loss, though they might change whm to actually suck mp now

but other than that the consolidation looks great

[sleek moon]

About tree fiddy

They didn't go in depth

[stray forge]

xue hua piao piao

[limpid edge]

Happy Monday

[nocturne escarp]

Also no 2m buff windows means people can stack skill/spell speed without worrying about screwing up their 2m

fast PLD is back

[valid solar]

I know crit/dhit is still gonna be better for most jobs but I really want to just put maximum sks on everything

[stray forge]

im sure u do

sadly ur a nuisance to fruit everywhere

[craggy marsh]

I want sks and sps to be combined into one stat

[timber stratus]

yung haste

[limpid edge]

Felt like 7.4 just came out

This what happens when I play other games

[boreal pumice]

ive been enjoying ex 33 very fun

[mortal flower]

As a paladin.

Please please please please please

😭

[wicked delta]

we're coming to terrorize your pfs

[fierce matrix]

Based on the videos, PLD was about 2.4, DRG stardiver combo was 1.4-1.5

BRD during some songs played like MCH

So im guessing itll be varied based on the combo and rotation

[dull drum]

noclippy

[visual geyser]

Happy about the feature to remove portions of armor

So many sets ruined by stupidity ass straps and shit

I know when the expansion comes out there’ll be like 4 sets that support the feature tho

[boreal pumice]

remove mch lunch box

[timber stratus]

i hope thats possible but i doubt

since its a weapon and not armor

[lavish mortar]

Was quite funny seeing the armor removal thing for the first time personally

As a GW2 player with 3k hours, it just reminded me of how surprised I was that you could toggle off gloves and shoulders in addition to helmet lol

Then I found out that the equivalent of the Emperor's New Shoes costed about 3k gold in that game...

[timber stratus]

[lavish mortar]

Which is like idk, 25 mil gil?

[timber stratus]

freaks driving up the price

[lavish mortar]

truuuu

Also to be fair, it was like a 1/1000 drop from an event you could do once a day

[boreal pumice]

[shy obsidian]

i need to do M3 and M4 reclears soon

I need some pants and a scythe for my outfit

[jade nimbus]

I cleared m12s

[timber stratus]

big

[trim frost]

not as big as you

[visual geyser]

Damn

Can’t wait for region wide matchmaking

Surely pvp will last 3 weeks instead of 2

🥹

[wicked delta]

i look over

my tank dies bc he didnt mit

[dapper zealot]

Mb

I was trying to perfect parry

[tame shuttle]

Tobi

[wicked delta]

[dapper zealot]

https://youtu.be/5m_Kk0EERZo?si=B7GC2FnXiJNo4pqw

[wicked delta]

gay and gayer

[wicked delta]

m12s is truly impossible content

[tulip wraith]

i believe

may your dreams be realistic

[dull drum]

jokes on you double OT or get kicked

[zealous meteor]

may his dreams be idyllic

[loud nymph]

did you clear p1 yet tobi

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-it's-genuinely-over-trout-trout-dying-trout-it's-over-gif-4267717049801794134

im TRYING

[loud nymph]

oof

[wicked delta]

[vestal hollow]

toby...

[visual geyser]

logged in and saw my tomes and just sighed bro

wheres my activity log wheres my battle pass

[random needle]

I'm throwing myself back in m12s too

[random needle]

We might need to do this together, bro

[vestal hollow]

it isnt real

theyre reducing the tome cap to 225

[versed haven]

We're in such a state that we actually want a battlepass

[limpid edge]

im excited for cross-dc pf

i wanna see how many PFs NA is gonna have

perhaps 15 % more than aether at its peak

[random needle]

girl help

[limpid edge]

that's a dragon?

[limpid edge]

$15 sub means we all get battlepass by default!

[random needle]

Act 3 is impossible content

Holy hell that PF was pure reverse prog

Started by wiping to act 3 dragons, ended by healers clipping each other in mortal slayer

[loud nymph]

Jeez

[tulip wraith]

wait whats act 3 again

[random needle]

Admittedly some of that was me being dumb, but I think I only made us wipe once because... I guess if you're touching the boss while he's spinning during act 2, that's an attack?

[loud nymph]

The bit where he breaks the arena and you shoot out towers

[tulip wraith]

is that half of party gets hit by dragon half doesnt and all spread

ohhhh

[loud nymph]

And then you do head shenanigans

[random needle]

That's Curtain Call

[tulip wraith]

rightttttt

[loud nymph]

Yeah, you're thinking of curtain call which is right after act 3

[tulip wraith]

everything after act 2 is a blur to me

[loud nymph]

yeah, you can't touch the boss during that mech until he does the squish the middle thing

once he does that you can run through his model all you want

[tulip wraith]

i also cant do act 3 without a cheat sheet

i could probably remember if i try but id rather not

same with ID tower debuff resolves

[random needle]

I wish I got β more so I could practice the movement a little more, but I keep getting α

[tulip wraith]

thank you startegy board

[random needle]

And yeah I have a cheatsheet for both act 2 and act 3 handy, I probably don't need it for act 2 but it's a useful sanity check

[tulip wraith]

[worn bluff]

act 3 is just cheatsheet

the cheatsheet for strayborough teacups is more complicated than act 3

[tulip wraith]

lolol

[loud nymph]

tbh once you have the timing for act 2 down it becomes very easy

you just have to remember you always have to do 2 things

regardless of number or alpha/beta

you always break a tether and you always soak a tower

[tulip wraith]

once youre used to both, beta is far easier as well

[loud nymph]

only things that change is which tower and when you break

[tulip wraith]

you dont have to pay attention to puddles

[random needle]

Yeah, act 2 is easy conceptually, I just sometimes make stupid mistakes if I get β... mostly because I explode and die if I touch the wall

[loud nymph]

I find alpha 3 or 4 easiest because you see those towers early then you just afk on your tower until it's your turn to break tether

but honestly all are easy

[random needle]

Yeah definitely

[tulip wraith]

i think on paper act 2 was the scariest for me pre prog

[loud nymph]

it definitely seemed like the hardest/most involved part of p1

but in practice it's actually quite simple

bro

[worn bluff]

i personally find alpha 1/2 easiest because you don’t even have to go back to mid before tether break. just leave on debuff and go to your tower then afk

[random needle]

Is Mr. Beast back

[loud nymph]

he was

mods took him away again 🙁

[tulip wraith]

theyre so rich now its unfair

[scarlet lintel]

i was thinking maybe if war becomes OT now and i cant MT anymore as freely, i might swap back to drg
but drg has left/right/back positionals now? 😭 i do like positionals but i feel an extra direction might end up being too hard

[loud nymph]

isn't it like a single positional every 10 seconds from what they showed so far

(which obviously is subject to massive changes in the next 9 months)

[scarlet lintel]

🤔

[obsidian blade]

That and they have a True North jump that tentatively has 3 charges, one for each positional

[scarlet lintel]

oh ig that just trivializes it

[obsidian blade]

Depending on the cool down of the jump and how often you need the positionals yeah

[scarlet lintel]

could be fun then

[loud nymph]

if you can do current DRG I'm certain you can do the new one

[scarlet lintel]

does drg have more gapclosers too now? i was strugglig a lot in AMT bc of that lol

[lavish mortar]

i think it has no gapclosers now

[scarlet lintel]

awesome

[lavish mortar]

but it still has enhanced piercing talon or whatever

[obsidian blade]

They literally made Drakesbane to ease the burden of constantly going Wheeling into FnC, I doubt the new positionals are back to back

[lavish mortar]

and of course it kept elusive

[lavish mortar]

not per se outside of the opener now

[obsidian blade]

They showed gap-closing jumps

Like I think there's a new Spineshatter equivalent

[lavish mortar]

I think there's Stardiver and that's it

Oh yeah cuz Wyrmwind Thrust is a GCD now

[distant knoll]

replaces piercing talon when you have stacks for it

which is neat

[scarlet lintel]

so ig more ranged options?

fair

[lavish mortar]

yea

[obsidian blade]

Oh it's the true north one

Vengeful Jump

That's a gap closer

I went back and rewatched that section of the dev panel

[lavish mortar]

Oh yeah it is

wow dragoons the new nin i guess

no downtime job

(if you play it right xdddd)

[dapper zealot]

They're making all the jobs little to no downtime

cause it was shit doing burst then having jackshit inbetween

[obsidian blade]

Yeah it seems like if there's intended downtime, it's forced in current fight design, the boss will just disappear

[random needle]

Inb4 ninja is even faster

[lavish mortar]

Evolved dragoon seems super simple tho, I kinda dig it

[obsidian blade]

lmao monk with a Naruto run

[lavish mortar]

maybe a little too simple considering all its ogcds are gone for the most part

i think the unique positionals are nice but maybe they can do something with the stardiver chain

[boreal pumice]

to early to judge

[dapper zealot]

It isn't, now you have to manage 3 positionals while having little filler

[obsidian blade]

Evolved jobs seem to have a faster GCD in general, so I imagine a lot of them cut down on oGCDs

[terse zodiac]

trust you wont have to deal with 3 positionals

you choose one side and ignore the other with jumps

[lavish mortar]

you got 30 seconds before positional skill charges cap tho
tho, I guess that's not a lot of time in comparison to the jobs we currently have

[boreal pumice]

back in shb that was the norm for drg you either did the flank or rear correctly and be rewarded with raiden thrust or your back to basic bitch combo

[obsidian blade]

Yeah I have to imagine they'll like up the cool downs of Vengeful Jump and the positionals such that you don't do too much shuffling

[terse zodiac]

i will laugh so hard seeing some drg hitting a left then elusive jumping to the right, sprint to the back

[obsidian blade]

That seems way more complicated than just shuffling around inside the boss hitbox

[lavish mortar]

or go left, jump, back

[terse zodiac]

why shuffle when you can do exactly what you do now

[boreal pumice]

wonder if they will do less full circle bosses so ppl are more cant think the word, forced to do postionals to be better

[dapper zealot]

pressured

[lavish mortar]

I wonder why every hotbar has continuation on it tho

[obsidian blade]

I'm also just curious what the other melees will look like if DRG has three positionals and differentiates flanks

[obsidian blade]

Placeholder

[terse zodiac]

just placeholder because thats basically what the buttons are

[lavish mortar]

oh right

[obsidian blade]

A button that isn't active until you get some kind of proc

[dapper zealot]

yeah placeholder cause jobs will have actions that work like continuation in principle

[lavish mortar]

hmmm why so many 😭

everyone boutta be gnb

[obsidian blade]

Cuz cramming every job down to 16 buttons is a lot of work for Mr Prime

[boreal pumice]

abit of weaving never hurt

[lavish mortar]

real

[dapper zealot]

it's just good design

[boreal pumice]

if you ever used xiv combo or something simlar you know how clean your hot bars can get

[dapper zealot]

like no reason to have 4 separate buttons when they can be the same and proc based on your base skills/abilities

[obsidian blade]

Like watch, when we get more showcases of evolved jobs, every caster is gonna have placeholder gemshine

[lavish mortar]

💀

[boreal pumice]

this gave me a giggle

[dapper zealot]

kek

just no meaningful difference between 123 and 111

[boreal pumice]

meanwhile healers be like i trained my whole life for this moment

[obsidian blade]

Healer DPS being instant is big tho

[boreal pumice]

i am really curious how this play out because it effects well everything (beside like blu i guess )

[terse zodiac]

could just be white mage

[obsidian blade]

ayo evolved limited jobs? O.o

[dapper zealot]

whm was the weakest since it's kinda just the same but no cast times

sge 100% needs a more involved dps rotation

[obsidian blade]

I can't imagine this is the case, I think they outright said they were making the healers' basic damage buttons instant cast

[craggy marsh]

XIV players out there thinking pressing 123 is any different then pressing 111

[dapper zealot]

like attacking to heal is the big core of identity

[boreal pumice]

have you meet this guy called zane the legend

[craggy marsh]

Anyone named Zane can't be a legend

[terse zodiac]

no they said specifically "we have removed casting times from most white mage attack spells"

[obsidian blade]

Oh hmmm

[terse zodiac]

plus that would just make them more samey, the whole idea behind evolved is making jobs feel different

[boreal pumice]

most? they only have 2 attack spells thats casted stone and all its upgrades and holy

[obsidian blade]

Idk, if only white mage could move while attacking, that'd make for pretty poor balance

[boreal pumice]

i really want to see how this will work in DD

[thin fox]

the healers wouldnt still be pretty bad

[dapper zealot]

they want whm to do more healing, but will likely compensate by the attacks having PHAT damage

[thin fox]

their problem isnt casttimes somuch as it is uh

damage

[dapper zealot]

attacking will full stacks should be a gain

[boreal pumice]

if every tick of a dot or every glare (could be a proc) lowers the lilly timer of they make it a seperate thing so its just the blood lilly being filled

[blazing bobcat]

my concern with evolved mode is that I will get lost in the combo chain sometimes, bc having separate buttons also work as a pacing mechanism to tell where you are in the combo while paying attention to mechanics

[dapper zealot]

it shouldn't be much different from vpr and pct

[mortal flower]

Evolved seems to be more focused on 'fight interaction' more than it is rotation

In a good way

[blazing bobcat]

is freestyle sam back?

[thin fox]

freestyle sam never left brother

you can clear top w that shit

[remote gate]

hello elounge how ae feeling about umad

[dapper zealot]

UMAD is the only acceptable name

[remote gate]

personally im rooting for the goat raiders and hoping to see kefka break the wills of everyone involved

[dapper zealot]

Kefka enrage

[loud nymph]

I still think UCLOWN is good because it calls ultimate raiders what they are

[dapper zealot]

it's funny but deviates too much

[loud nymph]

Yeah true

[remote gate]

imagine if the final phase of umad is sephiroth coming into the fight for no good reason and kefka beats his ass and fuses with him

would be literal cinema

[loud swift]

kingdom sora hearts will come in umad

trust

[untold oyster]

what does umad stand for

ultimate
m
a
d
?

[dapper zealot]

Dancing Mad (Ultimate) just rearranged and drop dancing

[random needle]

It stands for nothing. It's an initialism that doesn't have any actual meaning to the letters.

[untold oyster]

oooh

thats really dumb then

[random needle]

Does that upset you? Does it seem irrational?

[untold oyster]

yes

[random needle]

U mad?

[dapper zealot]

UMAD bro?

[untold oyster]

not particularly

[random needle]

Good.

[untold oyster]

god i forget how old the average playerbase of this game is lol

[dapper zealot]

it's much more funny than DMU

[untold oyster]

yea but all the other ultimate abbreviations stand for something

even the meme name of uwu stands for ultima weapon ultimate

it just doesn't work comedically or logically

[dull drum]

@rapid whale

took a stray for no reason

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-in-my-prime-funny-2--k01KQ6EC0XN3VW5KNTA7DSRRAKF

[dense oxide]

[worn bluff]

it’s not that serious

it’s silly and people like it

[wicked delta]

[still stirrup]

We need help beating the good king moggle please help us

[stray forge]

[obsidian basin]

What does body check mean?

[true beacon]

you need a certain amount of people to pass the mech

[tulip wraith]

specific amount of players need to be alive and in correct positions or a mechanic is about to go haywire

at least thats how ive interpreted it

[obsidian basin]

Gotcha, what I thought but wanted to double check

Thanks

[true beacon]

three mechs from P12S that are body checks

Ignore the brightness this fight has a lot of flashes

[thin fox]

pallas athena might not be a good fight but she had ridiculous aura

I CAN CREATE WORLDS--OR UNMAKE THEM

[true beacon]

I mean like half her mechs are good

UAV, Classical, and most especially Pangenesis

[tight wing]

hey in m12s this is rep 1 DN right?

[tulip wraith]

thats what i do yeah and i run DN

honestly i don't even so the cw ccw stuff

i just look for my right guy at the edge and run the correct cardinal next to it

[daring pine]

i just look at our dancer 💀

[tulip wraith]

i think my prange looks for me lmfao

ive yet to get the mech wrong so i get it

[brisk scarab]

Now only a8s left

[nova holly]

finished my first unreal tonight surely im almost ready for savage

[pale gale]

holy brightness

my eyes be straining on the first seconds

you on oled?

[tepid briar]

it's not that bad honestly

I did advanced merchant into m9

[alpine plover]

so these are

[trim frost]

they're

[alpine plover]

fending aiming casting scouting striking maiming healing?

or?

[lyric summit]

does it matter with no glam restrictions

[tulip wraith]

i mean being right job will let you need at least

[shy obsidian]

how are there no pics of the Clyteum's gear yet

is this all we have to go off of?

[proper cave]

So it seems yeah

[shy obsidian]

ngl it looks nice-ish so far

[thin tartan]

20 mil m9-12 on pf

[shy obsidian]

hmmm save for the pants or get the hat ASAP

[inner shadow]

Is it possible to send market-prohibited items to players?

[proper cave]

Sometimes yes but a very large majority are also untradeable.

[rapid whale]

evercold

[trim frost]

real.

[shy obsidian]

i don't think this new reaper outfit is suited for the cold

[proper cave]

Clearly you're not from the north

Joking aside it is pretty feasible that a Hrothgar might be able to handle that with their fur and whatnot.

[shy obsidian]

do hrothgar have a winter coat, I wonder?

[valid solar]

doubt it

[shy obsidian]

oh god bro's gonna catch a cold

[valid solar]

they only have fur on their face. shoulders, and parts of their arms and legs

they have more skin than fur

which imo is a failure on the SE design team

[shy obsidian]

they have fur everywhere, as far as I can see

[valid solar]

taking an example with contrasting colors to make it more obvious the purple is fur, but the white is a mixture of skin and skin with a lot less fur than the purple part

[proper cave]

...oh

[shy obsidian]

wait gimme a sec

[valid solar]

taking another example with the neck you can see the texture difference between the face (fur) and where there isnt

in hindsight I should have used gpose to make it brighter but I think its visible enough

[proper cave]

The other Nakagawa on the team, the guy who made TOP and TEA, is the one handling Kefka Ult

[shy obsidian]

hmm.

[valid solar]

huh you're right thats definitely fur

maybe its just harder to see with lighter colors

[shy obsidian]

probably

[valid solar]

either way I still think hrothgar shouldve been completely furry everywhere like the shoulders and the forearms where its very clearly thick fur

[shy obsidian]

sooo will Windurst be available as soon as the patch happens?

and mainty is over, ofc

[dusk sky]

hroth....

oh <@&100464652139368448>

and yeah, the "skin" has a p neat furred texture, I love how it looks in places with under lighting

would enter like ramuh for the low light effect but 'm queued for exp

[dusk sky]

and yeah, Tuesday's main content is MSQ Part 1 & Echoes of Vana'diel Part 3,

[willow jetty]

i forgot if it mentioned it but where is the msq being unlocked at

[slow whale]

New headcanon, Hroth actually have thick fur everywhere but they shear a lot of it like poodles.

[dusk sky]

Resolution/North Solution Nine, where Krile and G’raha are if you’ve finished 7.4

[valid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-19451148

[stone flint]

I will say this

I was REALLY hoping the next alliance raid crossover would be Xenoblade

Copium i know

[kind elm]

ff14 doesnt deserve xenoblade

atleast not 1 3 or X

[valid solar]

can't believe we're getting a blushy crushy emote /s

[kind elm]

they can have xenoblade 2 that game is so dogass

[valid solar]

I didnt like it as much as I liked one but I really do think certain elements heavily detracted what could have been really good

[kind elm]

oh yea

theres a good game somewhere underneath all the ass

[valid solar]

i've played 1, 2, and the original X but I havent played 3 or X remake yet

[kind elm]

but like tge writing is corny even for xenoblade and i fucking hate all the characters 😭

[valid solar]

gotta get to that sometime

[kind elm]

like xenoblade 1s writing is corny as hell but is fun and whimsical corny

xenoblade 2 is like fucking insane

[valid solar]

xenoblade 1 is corny the way old shonen anime was corny while xenoblade 2 is corny the way isekai slop is corny

[kind elm]

something happens woa thats so weird! catgirl whose name escapes me at the moment says something sexually suggestive erm! thats not what that means! the nopon wants to fuck his robot

like oh my god

[valid solar]

yes sir this cutscene where a girl sleepwalks into the mc's bed and then throws shit at him is 100% necessary for the plot and character relations

[stone flint]

Boy I’m bouta smack you upside the head

[lost sinew]

thought it was interesting they had a gacha system in that game

appreciate non-evil implementations of gacha

[stone flint]

We not playing around with Xenoblade 2

[kind elm]

like there is genyinely a good game in there but the tutorials overcomplicatr the fuck out of everything and the writinf makes me want to die

[valid solar]

I beat the whole damn game and I was still missing some characters

[stone flint]

Tutorials are useless yes

[lost sinew]

it doesn't have the sauce of 1 but to be fair even xenoblade 1 lost a bunch of sauce when they remade it and made the models more generic

[stone flint]

Just learn to play on your own its fun as hell

[kind elm]

yea we not playin with it cuz i uninstalled it and dont plan on reinstalling

[lost sinew]

i'd be interested in revisiting it with the switch 2 because i remember the original form of that game looking kind of rough at times

not a big deal at all but it would be nice

[zealous meteor]

i need to continue 3

[lost sinew]

i haven't gotten around to 3 yet

[kind elm]

i also did not rly like the like overly anime'ified artstyle of 2

[zealous meteor]

i got scared of my blorbos being hurt so i've been procrastinating on the game for over a year

[kind elm]

but thats just me

[lost sinew]

i like the Anime shit on its own, i did not like that it retroactively affected xenoblade 1's artstyle when that got remade

but that's how remakes go i guess

[zealous meteor]

they can't get hurt if i don't progress the story

[valid solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Onhg0zJ10

you know rewatching this scene I forgot how bad the VA was in 2

why is the tone they speak in always so off

lowkey the varied accents is the only thing that makes it bearable

[kind elm]

yea this is exactly the scene sob

i dont mind the VA really

it was also kinda jank in 1 but u didnt really notice because the pacing of dialogue and shut wasnt... this

[stone flint]

Bruh I just wanted to talk about a fun crossover idea

Did it have to turn into everyone taking turns dogpiling one of my favorite games

[kind elm]

you are allowed to still like the game

in fact youre even allowed to love it

[stone flint]

And I will thank you

Better then boring ass Xenoblade 1 and its 4000 awful sidequests

I wont rip into 3 I like 3

[kind elm]

i fear they are peak

[stone flint]

Can we talk about that Evercold trailer theme though

I cannot wait to hear that leitmotif in 30000 tracks

[dapper zealot]

leimotifs, the thing invented by undertale?

[kind elm]

undertale crossover??

[willow jetty]

so correct me if im wrong but they announced the removal of actual tomestones?

that 1 slide they showed

the tomestones being removeds

[torn kindle]

I think it’s more how we grind for them, tbh

[willow jetty]

oh ><

[dapper zealot]

we basically get a challenge log 2.0

[zealous meteor]

they announced they're looking at tomestones

[willow jetty]

who's alarm clocking tonight for the patch ??

I am

[zealous meteor]

but no specifics yet

[willow jetty]

just gotta remember where they said the patch would be

what zone ?

[kind elm]

ill need to reup my sub

[willow jetty]

Dawntrail or where

[valid solar]

did you see the husky by the geek cover

its pretty good

[kind elm]

but i cant play until like

a week after

crying

[willow jetty]

where is the next msq at i dont remember

not rising stones right

[kind elm]

where u left it

[willow jetty]

somewhere in dawn trail

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[kind elm]

also like

[zealous meteor]

solution nine

check the patch notes

[willow jetty]

ok

[kind elm]

once you get in you can just click the top left

[dapper zealot]

just use the msq tracker

[willow jetty]

wonder how many people are gonna log out in solution 9

[kind elm]

probably not many

[torn kindle]

Hour 0 alliance raid or bust

[kind elm]

atleast not many intentionally doing it

[torn kindle]

I need to die several times to Shantotto

[dapper zealot]

dw, people still struggle to find the Clyteum

[shy obsidian]

that's when people are the funniest

[torn kindle]

Everyone is new, no one knows anything, and death is plentiful

The purest form of entertainment and learning

[dapper zealot]

do I want extra suffering and heal

[shy obsidian]

and with this raid, people are gonna make funny references I have a vague understanding of :D

[dapper zealot]

or go dps

[kind elm]

actually maybe i alarm clock for raid launch

then do msq after exams

[shy obsidian]

personally I'm going as a DPS
I NEED THIS SO FUCKING BAD

[willow jetty]

thief AF and Relic 😄

Blue being the Relic

and green being the AF

[shy obsidian]

I suppose the vest itself is dyeable while the crop top remains the same....

[dapper zealot]

I need to see what quotes they cooked with Windurst

[shy obsidian]

that's what I'm predicting

[dapper zealot]

Shanotto will absolutely have bangers

[shy obsidian]

BUT WHICH ONE BELONGS TO WHICh

and it looks like THE BLUE ONE IS FOR AIMING

[willow jetty]

im glad they kept her 5 orb beam

[shy obsidian]

THE GREEN IS FOR SCOUTING

[kind elm]

when does it launch again

lioe clock time

[willow jetty]

tomorrow morning at 3am

[zealous meteor]

12pm

[kind elm]

what timezone sob emoji

[zealous meteor]

CEST

[willow jetty]

pst

[kind elm]

ok thanks

my foat

doat

fuck

[shy obsidian]

if it helps, type "!maint" in #kupo-bot-spam

[zealous meteor]

foat (fop goat)

[shy obsidian]

ngl I'm kinda surprised we didn't start with this gear and then ended with the Ark Angel gear or referencefest gear

[kind elm]

wait are we in summer time now

how does dst work

[zealous meteor]

we are

[kind elm]

i hate this shit

[dapper zealot]

Gonna be spending a lot of time organising my glam dresser

[shy obsidian]

i need actual pics of the Clyteum's gear pleaseee
this can't be the only pic of it

wow i just realized that astrologian has a nice hat

[hazy grotto]

has there been any large changes in the occult crescent area since it launched? All i remember seeing is they added more phantom jobs for it but aside of that nothing major

[shy obsidian]

FANS SOON
FANS SOON

I NEED MY GLORIOUS FANS

[dapper zealot]

you could say that again

[lost sinew]

other than the new phantom jobs, they've done some quality of life changes (and are continuing to do so, i think tomorrow's patch has a change to how fate health scaling works)

and they also added random right side gear drops to the different things you do in there

those are market board sellable and were really expensive at a certain point but idk how expensive they all are right now, you get some of them as random CE drops, some in treasure coffers, some as bunny drops

i think that's it

[shy obsidian]

if they don't make reaper fun in Evercold then I just wasted a bunch of gil on seven pots of jet black for nothing

[kind elm]

i think it would be REALLY funny if they made evolved reaper and it was just as bad

[shy obsidian]

so uh just to help me understand
does this mean that I can form parties with people in Primal and Dynamis and Crystal while staying in Aether?

[kind elm]

yes

but still not cross region

[shy obsidian]

imagine if this finally ends the Aether congestion

[stone flint]

You know I will say

This expansion reminds me of two games

FF13 which would be fitting

[zealous meteor]

evolved scholar needs to stay just as jank as it is now
jank is sch's identity

[stone flint]

But also, Chrono Trigger

With the whole “Islands in the sky but everything below is a cold wasteland” thing

[kind elm]

it wont because people use chatgpt to get advice on how to play ff14 and itll tell them go to aether for raiding

evercold reminds me of two games
everhood (the ever)
call of duty black ops cold war (the cold)

[sinful roost]

• the echo chamber that is this server about queueing in dynamis,

[shy obsidian]

wait, does this mean that queue times for everyone will be much shorter?

[timber stratus]

except materia players yeah should be

[dapper zealot]

(:

[shy obsidian]

...i still haven't finished my ultimog challenge

...i want the tremble emote so bad

FUCK

[timber stratus]

you have a day to do it (?)

go crazy

(i have no idea what the fuck an ultimog is but i assume its an event)

[shy obsidian]

wait, you haven't been attention to the Moogle Treasure Trove event?

[timber stratus]

no the only thing ive done is the raid tier

[shy obsidian]

errr uhhh

[timber stratus]

im the raider stereotype

[shy obsidian]

do funny tasks the book tells you to do
get cool rewards, like mounts from past extremes and emotes

[sinful roost]

since a few patches, they've updated how the mogtome event,
now you have 3 kind of objective to do, alongside the normal content.
you have a weekly target that is personal
a minimog target that is weekly that everyone has
and the "ultimog" which is in the span of the whole event.
this time it asks you to enter map dungeons.

[lyric summit]

probably not by much, like the ratio of tank-heal-dps players is basically the same across all datacenters, we also don't know how responsive the system ir of it if's opt-in (like it could be, enable region matching for more people, but it will take 1 minute longer to load into the content as we transfer the data, or something along those lines)

[timber stratus]

ah so its mogtome 2.0, thats cool

[sinful roost]

thief maps are selling like pastries on that one

[shy obsidian]

fifty irregular tomestones for doing treasure dungeons, and that's about the price of a GWIBER

[timber stratus]

i resubbed last night because i have to start actually looking at what job i should gear before the ult

i dont even know if i can get enough tomes before the ult because haha weekly lock

[shy obsidian]

i think I've only ever gotten a single gwiber from actually doing an extreme

the rest I've just uh. irregular tomestone

[lost sinew]

huh i guess next expansion they'll start putting up those endwalker lynxs for mogtomes

wild

[zealous meteor]

wait. are the df/pf changes a rejoining

have we become what we hated the most...

[shy obsidian]

i mean we individuals of different worlds are still... us

so I think we're fine lol

[zealous meteor]

you say that but what if i merge with @open dove

[shy obsidian]

which one of you is the Ardbert tho

which one of you is the source being

[zealous meteor]

dynamis is smaller

so it's probably me

[visual geyser]

Can’t believe I got sick this weekend dealing with an evercold :/

[rotund summit]

the fourth is notably not the already rejoined ice reflection right? its a similar situation to the 13th/1st?

[zealous meteor]

we wouldn't be able to visit a rejoined reflection

it's gone. deleted

so yes it's similar to the first

[visual geyser]

Reduced to anther

Similar to the ninth I’m assuming

[valid solar]

nice knowing you bud

[zealous meteor]

[visual geyser]

Idk what the fuck is up with the ninth

[rotund summit]

isnt the connection between the source and the ninth an elevator?

oh wait no u have to use the gate in yak tel

[visual geyser]

It’s an elevator

7.4 shows that you can just go down LM and you’ll be in the ninth proper

[lyric summit]

its just chillin probably primed for rejoining but needs a calamity to get sucked into the source

[zealous meteor]

well no

the connection is between the source and living memory

living memory is already the ninth

[rotund summit]

i thought in 7.0 when you go to fight zoraal ja that the X floor is missing and the only way to get there is using the yak tel door

and u need the key

[zealous meteor]

yes

though we don't need the key for it

[rotund summit]

oh ya

its the earring

been a while

[zealous meteor]

we just need sphene's or the king's authority
and gulool ja (baby version) got us that

[rotund summit]

wait what was the earring for then

it was electrope

[lyric summit]

just krile parents goodbye letter or something

[zealous meteor]

we used it in conjunction with gulool ja's authority to open the gate

[valid solar]

correct, there was an electrope chip in the earring

like a security pass

[zealous meteor]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Through_the_Gate_of_Gold

[rotund summit]

Uwaah!

[open dove]

We'd be 2 lala in a trenchcoat 😂

[valid solar]

that's just an elezen child

[dapper zealot]

Much more detailed action by action analysis of the showcase. I didn't even realise that pld parry activates the Crest gauge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOVCxYrHNN8

[loud nymph]

The flatcar!

[rapid whale]

Lala announcers the real thing I'll miss about dt

Surely going forward, some kind of announcer is standard in raids

[marble grove]

Uhh

Considering it's Norse themed

There's a chance

[rapid whale]

Does Norse theme means even more dragons

[sinful brook]

Even if it was just the boss commenting on flattening people

[zealous meteor]

every raid/trial can be improved by having a milalla screaming in your ear

[rapid whale]

Lol

[shy obsidian]

ngl I find it funny how we MIGHT have Yggdrasil without a Hrasvelgr or a Nidhogg or a Ratatoskr

Sorta like ordering a pizza with nothing on it

[marble grove]

We don't know tho

The old Au'ra looked suspiciously like Mimir

[visual geyser]

I mean we have nidhogg

[rapid whale]

Are there any good Norse mythology yt channels

[marble grove]

I have a soft suspicion that we're out here being a young version of Odin before the dude went cray cray

[visual geyser]

All we need estinen is to have a schizo attack and nidhogg will show up

[random needle]

Did you know that, in original Norse myth, Ratatoskr was actually a squirrel

[marble grove]

And the Au'ra will end up telling us that if we cause the new version of the rejoining we'll just end up causing another version of the Ragnarok

[shy obsidian]

Well yeah

And Hraesvelgr was an eagle

[marble grove]

And the last expansion of this Saga will be us dealing with the Ragnarok anyway

[shy obsidian]

And Nidhogg… wyrm

[random needle]

Remind you of anyone...?

[visual geyser]

We got a squirrel

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/halmarut-calyx-ffxiv-into-the-mist-dawntrail-gif-12629534959631888997

[shy obsidian]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[marble grove]

[visual geyser]

Calyx being another more than dweeb genius is pretty cringe to me

[marble grove]

No u

[rapid whale]

It's p cliche yeah

[mortal flower]

Calyx is not Ratataskor

He's just nuts

[marble grove]

Final Fantasy as a whole borders on the cliche tbf

[visual geyser]

No way they give him some extra backstory to make him sympathetic

[mortal flower]

Hence they put him in the suit to signal that to the audience

[visual geyser]

Nothing they do will change the fact that he was okay with using lives as bargaining chips lmao

[mortal flower]

"Once long ago, when I was sad and hot... "

[dapper zealot]

they already did, he was sickly and shit

[mortal flower]

Players: "damn devs cooking"

[marble grove]

"my mom was taken from me by the storm"

"so I turned evil"

[visual geyser]

Yea but he doesn’t care about anyone else lol

[marble grove]

Players: alright dude, we with you

[shy obsidian]

If you think about it, Dawntrail is Fortnite

[mortal flower]

"Your mom looks like Halm, strangely enough"

[marble grove]

https://tenor.com/view/water-spray-stop-sprinkle-water-gif-12639877674493562634

Inb4 Calyx just fucks off during 8.0 and the Au'ra lady will be our guide cause she's actually a good person

But it's part of the Ascians cause... Uh, life

[shy obsidian]

OoOoOooOoOo

[mortal flower]

Calyx just turns into Lugae but like 12% more serious

[marble grove]

That's a stretch and a half

[dawn urchin]

Fortnite x ffxiv collab confirmed?

[shy obsidian]

Well both are storms that produce purple lightning soooo

[dapper zealot]

she defo does a bit sad that everyone's gonna die, but tries to stop us cause we might accelerate the calamity

[marble grove]

We'll probably just end up working with some of the Winterers to stop some apocalypse that would affect everything we know... Oh wait

[marble grove]

That's 100% what will happen, and she's the one to point us to the place we're going but we'll end up having to deal with some other Ascian during 8.0

Or Emet shows up and goes "Bro wtf?"

[dapper zealot]

meeting another shard of azem would be cool too

[marble grove]

I just want a playable cat race

Those fuckers are adorable

[shy obsidian]

Too much felines!!!

[dapper zealot]

says the cat

[shy obsidian]

Hrothgars don’t need more competetion 💔

[rotund summit]

i really dont think the RPR at the end of the trailer is our character

[marble grove]

It 100% is imho

Unless there's a clone of us

That'd be an interesting plot point

[dapper zealot]

It's literally Meteor unless they're doing a bait and switch thing

[marble grove]

Likely class related tho

Like someone pointed out, he'll probably switch jobs

[rotund summit]

idk enough RPR lore to understand why we would go from VPR to RPR

[loud nymph]

meteor switches jobs every expansion

[shy obsidian]

You can tell it’s him because HE REFUSES TO PICK UP MAGIC FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME

[rotund summit]

prob explained by zero next patch tho

[dusk sky]

Like the initial squad in the teaser is us on VPR, Estinien, and Alphinaud, scene is perfectly poised for a tank to jump through the portal next

[loud nymph]

It's a perfectly normal thing

[shy obsidian]

Like god did a black mage kill his family or something

[marble grove]

Job bait and switch, by the final trailer he'll just be the new dps

[loud nymph]

That would be pretty funny

[shy obsidian]

When will bro finally pick up magic though????

[dusk sky]

I deffo think WoL is RPR this time, I just don’t know who the tank will be

[rotund summit]

wuk

[marble grove]

Inb4 it's Thancred again

[dapper zealot]

Wuk's shard

[loud nymph]

probably never, sqex seems to have a weird thing about forcing him to be melee

[rotund summit]

she got tired of being a side character (off tank) and swapped to the new tank job to be in the limelight again

[marble grove]

New tank is main tank

[rotund summit]

except for ShB and 1.0 right? where he is a bard

for a bit

[loud nymph]

In 16 years he has been a ranged DPS only during 1.0 and nobody played 1.0 so it doesn't count

[shy obsidian]

He’s not even melee all the time
He’s picked up archery at one point, which means he just hates MAGIC

[dusk sky]

As said, I think the trailer has the scene perfectly set up for a tank to join WoL/Estin/Alphy,

[marble grove]

New character joining us through Evercold

[rotund summit]

rhitalyn is back from the dead

[random needle]

Concept: Gaia is the new tank, Ryne is the pranged

[dusk sky]

Honestl we were never an Archer that was someone else’s memories in the 1.0 trailer

[rotund summit]

and he is coming along

[dusk sky]

Stupid ShB trailer

[shy obsidian]

Why would she ditch her cool-ass hammer tho

[marble grove]

Inb4 new tank uses a hammer

[dusk sky]

New tank is a hammer, duh

[marble grove]

Lol

[random needle]

She turned her hammer into shields

[dawn urchin]

I thought it was double shield

[dusk sky]

Well, from the QnA weapon thing, if it’s pranged it’s either crossbow or yoyo, if it’s tank it’s probably hammer

[rotund summit]

rope dart rDPS when

[marble grove]

Yo-yo would be hilarious

[shy obsidian]

Imagine a hemomancer job

[rotund summit]

https://tenor.com/view/rope-dart-shang-chi-xialing-gif-25565715

[dusk sky]

Yoyo honestly is the most likely for me atm

[dapper zealot]

crossbow boring

[loud nymph]

this would honestly be pretty cool

[dapper zealot]

yoyo is fun and whimsy

[marble grove]

Crossbow is just bard

[rotund summit]

i dont think it would happen this time due to xpac theming

[dusk sky]

Well nah, but yeah yoyo is a lot more fun

[rotund summit]

but i was hoping for it

[random needle]

Oversized yoyos would be such a fun pranged tbh

[loud nymph]

I dunno, a lot of times the job themes don't really seem to fit until later

[dapper zealot]

and yoshi p did specifically say yoyo would be 'easy' to make/add

cause maybe they already have??

[loud nymph]

Like SGE didn't really fit EW at all until you we knew that it was a Sharlayan thing and that's where we were going

[marble grove]

Watch Yo-yo be a busted job

[loud nymph]

Which we didn't know at all when EW was announced

[rotund summit]

ya alphi was sge in the teaser tho

[dusk sky]

The qna thing was he was said one of the weapons people chose was pretty close to one of the 8.0 jobs

[rotund summit]

is that the first time a new job was in the first teaser btw?

[dusk sky]

And yeah yoyo prob the most standout of the poll

[loud nymph]

DNC also didn't thematically fit ShB at all

[random needle]

I think you can see Thancred's gunblade in the ShB teaser

[loud nymph]

Point being the jobs don't have to fit

[dusk sky]

It’s funny how DNC’s reveal is that random viera in the ShB trailer

[loud nymph]

Yeah, it cuts away before he fights the sin eater but I'm pretty sure you see the weapon on his back as he's running with Ryne

[random needle]

My headcanon is that she's related to Lyna maybe

Or is Lyna

[dapper zealot]

actually yeah I think gnb/dnc are the only jobs that aren't tied to the main zones lorewise etc

[dusk sky]

I always thought Lyna lifted her design but according to the devs it was a coincidence

Which is fair, she also looks like one of the Rava presets

[shy obsidian]

well to be FAIIIIIIIIR how would you even explain a job from the First being in the Source to a… level 60 newbie

[loud nymph]

RDM isn't really tied in either tbh, unless I'm really misremembering my RDM lore

[shy obsidian]

They’re Ala Mhigan…

[dusk sky]

RDM is Ala Mhigan, as SAM is Hingan

[loud nymph]

are they? I guess I was misremembering, haha

Been about 4 years since I did that questline

[random needle]

The ziggurat in The Peaks is where people took refuge during the flood calamity iirc, which is what led to red magic being born by combining black and white magic principles and using bodily aether rather than the land's aether

[loud nymph]

Actually longer

since it was during ShB

[dusk sky]

But yeah ShB onwards they’re not been super closely tied, and of them…

Have all jobs from ShB onwards been shown in the trailers?

Yeah, Thancred/random viera, Alphinaud/Zenos, WoL/Krile

[dapper zealot]

well at least one job ties in with where at go in EW/DT

[random needle]

... Aside from Beastmaster, I think so yeah

[shy obsidian]

Reapers in Garlemald... Sages in Sharlayan..

[dusk sky]

Right yeah, DNC is the odd one out

Er and GNB, though it got Bozja

[dapper zealot]

Also gnb kinda, sure we go Bozja, but not part of the msq

[loud nymph]

were viera revealed before DNC, or did that bit from the trailer pull double duty?

[dusk sky]

I think so?

[wicked delta]

Fran was in some alliance raid quests

If you count that

[random needle]

Return to Ivalice notwithstanding?

[dusk sky]

Well aye, but as playable

[loud nymph]

Playable viera, I mean

Obviously

[wicked delta]

As a playable race though? I think its still the case

[dusk sky]

Since RtI Fran isn’t a PC model

[wicked delta]

Not 1000% sure though

[dusk sky]

It sounds correct since GNB was announced at EU but I can’t remember when the viera announcement

Yeah viera were announced at EU too, so dnc bun was later

[spice path]

I think a morning star would be cool. And seems very... Norse. Which is a theme for Evercold.

[dusk sky]

Yeah, Viera announcement trailer Feb 2019, DNC trailer March 2019

[zealous meteor]

leaked job tutor for the morningstar job

[dusk sky]

2019

[brisk charm]

Just wondering... whats the fastest way of getting mogtomes either solo or with friends?

[loud nymph]

What's wrong with their face

[zealous meteor]

nothing

[dapper zealot]

What happened to Woke Lmao?

[loud nymph]

see, you say that

[obsidian blade]

Isn't it Alexander?

[zealous meteor]

that is NAJA SALAHEEM, president of our glorious mercenary company

[spice path]

That looks like... wow?

[loud nymph]

it's ffxi

[spice path]

Ohh

[dusk sky]

WoW doesn’t have catgirls anyway

Just girls who turn into cats

[obsidian blade]

Lowk tho the new tank being morningstar or hammer or otherwise a bashing weapon would be gas

[loud nymph]

and dragons who turn into girls

[obsidian blade]

I'm not sold on gunshield

[zealous meteor]

yeah that's a mithra from ffxi

[dusk sky]

And somehow they’re all elves

[loud nymph]

in a world where orc women exist too

smh my head

[spice path]

I just thought it was very sus how he so quickly knew what the morning star suggestion was. May e morning star/shield or something so it ffxiv unique.

[dusk sky]

“Yoyo” but it’s closer to Vanille’s weird hook stick

[dapper zealot]

I don't see what else the Rhit shirt could allude to

[zealous meteor]

xi doesn't have a morningstar job so it would still be a unique job
naja is just extra and carries a morningstar everywhere

[spice path]

When he said yoyo was easy, I thought 'isn't that just dancer with strings?'

[dapper zealot]

true

[dusk sky]

I feel like the nature of a yoyo you’re gonna want to make most of its animations straight ahead or pulling a trick at the destination, rather than DNC’s big arcs

[rapid whale]

did they say it was unique to xiv period like not in any other ff before

[loud nymph]

They said it was an xiv original job

[dusk sky]

Since like, it has to go back the way it came, rather than finish the arc like DNC arms

[loud nymph]

That both were

[dusk sky]

Tl;dr yo-yos or eqv would have a v different motion language to DNC, so I trust the animators

Rope darts are the same principle but yo-yos can wind back on their own inertia instead of needing the wielder to pull them back all the time

[spice path]

Taking auto crossbow and giving it to the new pranged as an actually strong attack if they did crossbow would be such a slap in the face to mch mains lol

[dusk sky]

PHYSICS

yoyo class would have some crazy hand animations

[somber forge]

Yoyo class sounds stupid

[dapper zealot]

it's ok to have wrong opinions

[loud nymph]

I don't think it's going to be an actual yoyo

[lyric summit]

yoshi p tshirt = "guess who's back" = yoyo comes back

[loud nymph]

Just that it will have a similar form to a yoyo

so like

A thing on a long rope

I mean I guess it could've been referring to one of the other weapons on that list but

Doesn't seem likely to me we will get a crossbow job

[dusk sky]

The most creative ranged weapons I could think of are either meteor hammer/rope dart/yoyo

Or bird thrower but idk what the weapon could be

Falconer with a greatspear

[loud nymph]

I still kinda want a boomerang job but idk how you'd make that distinct from DNC

[dusk sky]

Crossbow could be a whole new job, they turned dual swords into vpr

[loud nymph]

since chakrams and boomerangs are so close

[lyric summit]

i member there was a flash fighting game with some girl that had a big chainsaw yoyo

[dusk sky]

They all just copy the original,

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-rire-kill-bill-gif-12348332354090588337

She probably isn’t but iconic nonetheless

[random needle]

There's also actually a few different types of yoyos that could make for interesting attacks if exaggerated

[dapper zealot]

Bridget inspo

[lyric summit]

like a mix of dnc basic combo and fell cleave vfx

just more snappy cause its on a string

[random needle]

There's the "standard" yoyo, there's looping yoyos that let you do much more rapid movements with one in each hand, there's using two standard ones at once, there's offstring yoyos where the string isn't physically connected at all, there's counterweight tricks where you have a die at the end of the string instead of it being attached to your finger

[wicked delta]

Boomerang is for the Meracydia expansion

[loud nymph]

see I figured that too but if meracydia is either 9.0 or 10.0 then it wouldn't fit

since in theory 9.0 would be healer/melee

[lyric summit]

if they add another melee to the game before balancing out the dps roles

[true beacon]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xtERX7gR3Gw?si=5RkeXn9XZenCnnXX

[lyric summit]

ill be unhappy

[visual geyser]

No shot we get another melee

[sinful brook]

Well that's like 3 years from now

[visual geyser]

I guess if you count beast master we will be at 8

[lyric summit]

stop adding melee jobs i dont like a single one

[vestal hollow]

double crossbow is possible

tie it to the fourth

[loud nymph]

maaaaaybe

[random needle]

When I think of double crossbows, I only think of Zen from Persona Q

[loud nymph]

weird as it sounds I think diablo 3 demon hunters are somehow more anime than that

[marble grove]

YO!

[loud nymph]

with a side helping of edgelord

[marble grove]

that's sick

Inb4 Persona 6 will just be Persona 5 2 instead of them actually trying cooler shit

Unpopular opinion: P5R is overrated

the day to day stuff is good, yeah, but the palaces were awful

[loud nymph]

Honestly a pretty cold take

I think it's a pretty common opinion that kamoshida's palace was the strongest one and the others fall off pretty fast

[dull drum]

depends on the palaces but kamoshida and madarame both have the personal vendetta the others dont really have

i mean theres shido ig but that one is dragged out way too long

[marble grove]

Kamoshida was easily the best one, but the rest can either be "oh this is fun" or "Oh this is god awful"

[dull drum]

good dungeons is something persona hasnt really been good at historically

[marble grove]

and the story arcs around some palaces can kinda carry it but some are also just annoying

The pyramids one for example, the arc was fine but the character was just annoying

[marble grove]

Metaphor kinda did it

[dull drum]

futaba? i thought she was fine

[dull drum]

nah the ship segment was horrible

[marble grove]

I didn't mind it much

still better than most of P5

[dull drum]

the final dungeon of metaphor is also this weird long dungeon that is actually a cop out for the final area which is ultimately a boss rush

[marble grove]

P5X kinda improved the design

but it's a gacha game so they need to make shit long

so it just hurts itself

[sleek moon]

tbf it was their first attempt at making actual dungeons

vs endless auto generated garbage of p3/p4

[marble grove]

ngl, I enjoy P4 as a whole a lot more than I ever enjoyed P5

[dull drum]

P4 has better main cast interactions is a common take

[sleek moon]

i enjoyed p4 but i did not like the generated dungeons

[random needle]

I think at least a few floors in P4 dungeons are technically handmade, but they still feel like the procedural stuff

[dull drum]

its 90% procedural yeah

[sleek moon]

only boss floors afaik

[marble grove]

The generated dungeons were fun at the time

[sleek moon]

and story-related ones

[quick verge]

we can remove you from the server if you dont like tartarus

[marble grove]

but tbf, I'd prefer auto generated vs the palaces

[dull drum]

i dont like tartarus

thoughts

[sleek moon]

you gonna end up with an empty server then

[quick verge]

its ok

[clear plume]

Sorry but p3 dungeon is not defensible that shit was rancid

[jade nimbus]

I'm quite the opposite tbh

As I prefer the more defined structure, variety and looks of the palaces

[distant knoll]

tartarus 🤢

[remote gate]

i liked tartarus for how chaotic it was

but getting owned by a sword giant shadow because it used vorpal blade and crit my entire team was not fun

[obsidian blade]

Idk, I liked Tartarus for the tone and rhythm it set given the game's atmosphere, and obv they knocked it out of the park with Reload

[quick verge]

im the only person on this planet that likes tartarus for the correct reasons

it will be a shame when everyone else is sent up to hell

[stray forge]

What’s wrong with tataru

[boreal pumice]

tartarus the place in greek mythology and where you climb in p3

[stray forge]

I’ll stop

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/emet-selch-gif-25893629

[worn bluff]

i’ll play P3R at some point

just sitting in my backlog

[shy obsidian]

how bad do you think the DDOS attacks will be omnce maintie is over

[loud nymph]

probably not at all

Nobody cares enough about alliance raid to ddos it

[boreal pumice]

oh no a normal raid , a normal trial , a ex trial and abit of msq

• dungeon

[shy obsidian]

i wouldn't underestimate the pettiness of people honestly

[obsidian blade]

True, we'll get DDOS attacks while the game has legit nothing going on

[craggy marsh]

Neets on their way to DDOS the launch of beastmaster

[loud nymph]

I'd actually get salty about that

BST looks like it'll be fun

Don't ruin my fun, fuckers

[obsidian blade]

can't wait to play Base Stat Total

[random needle]

... I'd personally be more concerned about the attacks when DMU goes up

[shy obsidian]

what's the first thing yall are doing for sevv pont fiv

[proper cave]

Day one alliance raid of course

A magical time I wouldn’t trade for anything

[random needle]

If I'm awake early enough, I'm probably shotgunning MSQ

If not, that'll probably be in the evening, then I'll see about getting on day 1 AR with the buddies

[proper cave]

Hyperbole aside day one a-raid is always a great time

[random needle]

... oh bollocks, I'm gonna want to try to reclear on Tuesday too

[loud nymph]

Being at work all day

I won't even be able to do alliance raid first thing

will have to do it when I get home tomorrow evening

[remote gate]

by J2_path

posting in hopes that the reaper rework makes the job good

[stray forge]

Is that meol

[zealous meteor]

buuz

[loud nymph]

It's the bun thingy from thavnair filled with curry

which I guess was called buuz

But I just think of it as the bun thingy

[boreal pumice]

buutz

[obsidian blade]

you wouldn't dare subject Zero to that fate 😔

[mystic lava]

I think buuz in game are a meat dumpling that was featured in the Azim steppe as IRL they are a Mongolian thing. If you play a xeela you get special diologue about them.

[shy obsidian]

isn't that more of an Azim Steppe thign

[whole estuary]

looks like baozi

[random needle]

In XIV, buuz is stated as being from the Steppe, ye

[whole estuary]

you can even make it spicy, or fill it with the meat of sentient fish

[zealous meteor]

[brisk scarab]

[inner shadow]

How many lvl 100 crafters would win against an extreme ARR trial? Asking for a friend

[zealous meteor]

none

because you cannot queue into a combat duty as a crafter or gatherer

[loud nymph]

It would take more than would be allowed into the instance

[zealous meteor]

crafters also have no combat stats

no vitality, no strength

[inner shadow]

Even in unrestricted?

[zealous meteor]

yes

[loud nymph]

Well, yeah

Unrestricted doesn't remove restrictions on who can get into that content

[zealous meteor]

for example

[loud nymph]

Nor does it magically allow you to bring 40+ people into an 8 person duty

[inner shadow]

So why do they have weapon damage

[zealous meteor]

notice the lack of vitality compared to combat jobs (and even gatherers)

[loud nymph]

Probably because every weapon does, even caster main hands, even BLU main hands

[inner shadow]

We'll go complete hunts then

[wicked delta]

[remote gate]

beat the monsters to death with a blacksmith mallet

[remote gate]

where have I seen this name before

[trim frost]

people have done that already

there was a horde of crafters beating up a lv 100 b rank over in jp a couple months ago

[random needle]

Did you drag her into m12 or something

[wicked delta]

no just some random alliance raid lmao

[zealous meteor]

IM STUPID

in my defense i didn't know you existed outside savage raids

[remote gate]

oh my gosh it was sam

[random needle]

It would have been so funny if you did

[zealous meteor]

oh i thought your "where have i seen this name before" was a joke

[random needle]

In fairness, there's a lot of names to keep track of

[wicked delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1469597835963138160/FUCK.gif

[random needle]

And if you don't have your ign the same or similar as your display name, it gets even harder

[loud nymph]

I've encountered multiple e'jusanas in duty finder and rushed back here only to find out every time they are an imposter

Feels bad

[remote gate]

im sorry sam i am absolutely ashamed of myself for forgetting the name of an important lalafell such as yourself

[wicked delta]

chud hat

[zealous meteor]

[brisk charm]

i got the chud hat!!!

[zealous meteor]

i'm not on aether that often