what
#endgame-lounge
wicked delta
shared the energy for you homie
dapper zealot
HUH????
odd beacon
no way
loud nymph
?????????
mortal garnet
WAHT
visual geyser
Finally
amber fable
S2 huh
brisk charm
WHAT
trim frost
ITS GONNA FUCKING EXPLODE
brisk scarab
excuse me
loud nymph
SWITCH TWO
shy obsidian
FUCK OFF
brisk scarab
that things gonna implode
terse zodiac
pray no switch users in your dungeon
mortal garnet
its gonna explode in alliance raid
dull drum
switch 2 port was alr known for a while yeah
timber stratus
pf reclears evolved only no switch 2 players
dapper zealot
what are even the specs of the S2 and ps4?
mortal garnet
from ps4 limitation to switch 2 limitation later
amber fable
But it is
mortal garnet
💀
dapper zealot
Not by a lot
so they only get support up to 9.3 :)
dull drum
basically yeah
stray forge
Cause switch 1 taught us that those Nintendo consoles can really handle the processing loads from their games
remote gate
how the FUCK is a switch gonna be able to run this game especially during ults like TOP
timber stratus
upscaling big
dull drum
its just that the gap between it and PS4 isnt huge is the main thing imo
so like ely said it'll hit a wall again
visual geyser
Oh sub is going up
trim frost
gulp...
remote gate
nintendo switch 2 players when they load into limsa:
visual geyser
😭
wicked delta
how the FUCK is a switch gonna be able to run this game especially during ults l...
wiping to kefka ult 6 times bc the switch 2 player had stick drift
mortal garnet
o no
visual geyser
Oh thank god
loud nymph
uh oh
loud nymph
Oh
dapper zealot
wiping to kefka ult 6 times bc the switch 2 player had stick drift
only 6?
loud nymph
Yeah, switch players get fucked
dapper zealot
lmao
remote gate
wiping to kefka ult 6 times bc the switch 2 player had stick drift
fucked up my limit cut movement because of drift
mortal garnet
nintendo tax xddd
timber stratus
nintendo moment
amber fable
Wont sell a lot I reckon
dapper zealot
switch getting hardware walled 9.0 and getting fucked
errant rivet
Nintendo moment
loud nymph
Didn't Xbox have something like this too
mortal garnet
butt
visual geyser
Oh that’s not bad
trim frost
isn't that just the same as playstation
dapper zealot
ok that's fair
loud nymph
Yeah that's ok
mortal garnet
oh discount
amber fable
50% off hmm
mortal garnet
im surprised they manage to convinced nintendo for this
visual geyser
This is an insane free game for switch players
stray forge
If they can even load in
mortal garnet
lmfao
untold oyster
did they show more of dancing mad ultimate yt
clear plume
how the FUCK is a switch gonna be able to run this game especially during ults l...
same way ps4s do? its more powerful than base ps4
untold oyster
yet
robust shoal
forked tower signups no switch 2 gamers
dull drum
it should be fine the problem is more so storage
clear plume
bro if i get a mf in my ulti group thats a switch 2 evolved drg im telling them to evolve to a grown ass man and be for real
dapper zealot
forked tower signups no switch 2 gamers
DMU evolved only, no switch 2
amber fable
No s2 players in my pf
visual geyser
Real!
dapper zealot
It'll be fine for casual players at least
trim frost
framerate looks decent
visual geyser
Get into combat you freak
thin fox
no mch | no balmung | no switch 2
loud nymph
no mch | no balmung | no switch 2
no reborn mode
visual geyser
wtf is the new combat mode called
clear plume
aether onry | no switch 2
timber stratus
evolved
visual geyser
Reborn and what
loud nymph
evolved mode
dull drum
evolved
loud nymph
is the new one
untold oyster
what does that mean wtf
visual geyser
Reborn mch still has fucked up AOE rotation L O L
dull drum
they'll show more details at the dev panel but iirc they compared it to sf6 modern classic if you're familiar with that
amber fable
Ff14 combat evolved
loud nymph
what does that mean wtf
Who fucking knows they were incredibly vague with it
dapper zealot
what does that mean wtf
that's the neat thing, we don't know :)
timber stratus
didnt they explicitly say that its NOT at all like modern
visual geyser
there’s a dev panel later
brisk scarab
all they said was evolved may be slightly better for dmg or something
loud nymph
Yeah, dev panel will give us more info
dull drum
didnt they explicitly say that its NOT at all like modern
dont remember that and it wouldnt even make sense
the entire core idea is literally modern
condensing the rotation
lol
condensing the rotation + being a neat alternative that isnt inherently 10000% superior
who knows maybe its like a 5% dps increase
we'll see
thin fox
they'll show more details at the dev panel but iirc they compared it to sf6 mode...
they contrasted it with modern
modern like obejctively makes sf6 a much easier game
dapper zealot
yoshi p said that evolved is like ''''slightly'''' better
stray forge
Modern condensing the rotation into wuwa controls
jaunty pulsar
hey I just saw a tiny bit of the live and they're bringing a weekly sort of battle pass to ffxiv?
stray forge
3 total buttons
dull drum
condensed rotation doesnt necessarily mean easier based on their adamancy on "alternative" options to customize so idk
gotta watch dev panel
stray forge
dapper zealot
hey I just saw a tiny bit of the live and they're bringing a weekly sort of batt...
no, seasons are just a new label for every 2 patches
stray forge
Genshin impact gameplay please
remote gate
have they shown gameplay of evolved yet
jaunty pulsar
no, seasons are just a new label for every 2 patches
what is the difference between what we have now?
dapper zealot
what is the difference between what we have now?
absolutely nothing
thin fox
mostly juist naming
stray forge
There is no difference
jaunty pulsar
nice <.<
thin fox
they explicitly said they wont introduce a paid battle system or w.e
pallid kindle
have they shown gameplay of evolved yet
no
thin fox
and that 'season' is just a new framing for the patch cycle
amber fable
Dev panel
dapper zealot
have they shown gameplay of evolved yet
later after this
thin fox
paid battle pass*
jade nimbus
naming, and the new system we have no idea how it works
remote gate
ill keep tabbing on and off then
odd beacon
crazy talk for a job recruitment ad
remote gate
dancing mad ultimate gonna be fire 🔥
pallid kindle
ill keep tabbing on and off then
they already said to wait for dev stream
wicked delta
Why the fuck is bro doing a live job recruitment
amber fable
Cuz
odd beacon
Why the fuck is bro doing a live job recruitment
tbf it was just a qr code in the past..
LMFAO
stray forge
I’m applying
odd beacon
ill just watch a vod..
jaunty pulsar
and switch 2 ffxiv xd. man if they shared the same game (license I mean) as pc I could have considered buying a 2 after I sold my switch 1
thin fox
ok so
odd beacon
these always says you need to be able to speak japanese 😭
thin fox
reborn doesnt survive more than like 2 expansions right?
amber fable
Yes
odd beacon
yea
loud nymph
Definitely going to be phased out long term
dull drum
depends on the reception to evolved
odd beacon
9.0 will be the last reborn i feel
jade nimbus
we'll have to see
odd beacon
esp since new jobs are going to be evolved
thin fox
this is almost certainly "lets make sure we dont perma brick old content" and then once they determine if evolved is working theyre 100% dropping that shit
pallid kindle
they gotta get rid of reborn mode at some point its not sustainable to keep them
marble grove
It's peak
odd beacon
but new jobs only being evolved makes me curious what makes evolved so different
jade nimbus
this is almost certainly "lets make sure we dont perma brick old content" and th...
either that, or it is a way to preserve old rotations
hard to say
odd beacon
when they said individuality that means customization
marble grove
visual geyser
they gotta get rid of reborn mode at some point its not sustainable to keep them
thats aproblem to worry about 2 years from now
thin fox
im just gonna wait for dev panel
odd beacon
and what the fuck is Continuation doing on the DRG hotbar
thin fox
where theyre gonna showcase evolved
odd beacon
dev panel is 4am here goodbye
untold oyster
kefka looks awesome and thank fuck we're getting a new arrangement of dancing mad the one in the game currently sucks ass
wicked delta
Soken is like 5 cm 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
amber fable
Bro they all are short
dapper zealot
98% of the keynote was absolute peak
brisk scarab
Im unfamiliar with the behind the scenes, is the guy in the red the american translator for the game
amber fable
Tome and pf
odd beacon
it was peak but i hate all the more info later but thats just a fanfest thing in general
amber fable
Are what everyone wanted
true beacon
Im unfamiliar with the behind the scenes, is the guy in the red the american tra...
that's Koji-Fox
pallid kindle
Im unfamiliar with the behind the scenes, is the guy in the red the american tra...
the head one yes
odd beacon
so whatever lmao
dull drum
head localizer ye
terse zodiac
he was originally the localization lead
marble grove
98% of the keynote was absolute peak
When I saw the Fantasy focus I went "YESSSS"
Fucking Peak
We so back
wicked delta
marble grove
We never left, but holy shit
pallid kindle
idk if he still is cause of FF16
brisk scarab
ahhh makes sense
odd beacon
I really like how the 4th actually looks architecturally unique
pallid kindle
but he was
zealous meteor
this is almost certainly "lets make sure we dont perma brick old content" and th...
i fully expect them to drop reborn mode eventually but idk when
odd beacon
the 1st looked a bit too similar in some palces
pallid kindle
i fully expect them to drop reborn mode eventually but idk when
hopefully it only lasts 8.x
brisk scarab
how will the collab fit in I wonder, since the nier one actually fits both stories
jade nimbus
angel warps in
proper cave
idk if he still is cause of FF16
He's loke supervisor now. Not as actively involved in live game
wicked delta
Bro they all are short
And hes somehow even shorter
dapper zealot
i fully expect them to drop reborn mode eventually but idk when
enjoy your improved Dynamis 
jade nimbus
but I wouldn't worry too much about story
brisk scarab
You think they'll just introduce the mechs/angels without having the anime's characters used
proper cave
Yoko Taro is working on new Eva animu
jaunty pulsar
when will they add Sbh to free trial?
dapper zealot
I really want a ramiel fight
zealous meteor
enjoy your improved Dynamis <:tatarucry:585643382626451477>
haha look at this idiot on OCE /s
jaunty pulsar
8.0?
dapper zealot
I need that ramiel EEEEEEEEEEEEEE
shy obsidian
FUUUUCK I NEED THESE
proper cave
So that means he's at least tangentially tied to the new AR too
pallid kindle
when will they add Sbh to free trial?
april 28
brisk scarab
sick reef
almost done with keynot, ff14 is saved.
another 5 billion subs to yoship
wicked delta
"YOU MUST JOIN US!!!!!!!!!!!" okay soken im sorry 
shy obsidian
Yknow
Vocaloid alliance raid series when
pallid kindle
pls no
lavish mortar
WE GETTING SPECS?
shy obsidian
But the time a collab happens… pwease 🥺
amber fable
WE GETTING SPECS?
No
trim frost
they said fuck vegas
brisk scarab
How would you rate these upcoming changes
dapper zealot
Evercold is just ShB 2.0. New shard focus, and collab alliance raid
dapper zealot
same
brisk scarab
-1 for fucking berlin
dapper zealot
only iffy thing is reborn/evolved until we see what it is
lavish mortar
I'd say 5/10 until reborn/evolved is actually shown
pallid kindle
5/10 ?
brisk scarab
so realistically, how early would you have to be to get in front of a ffxiv fanfest line LOL
I saw a pick of how big it was, supposedly about .25 miles or something
robust shoal
definitely much bigger changes than I expected
wicked delta
Im fucking excited
dapper zealot
yeah this was absolutely huge
robust shoal
a lot of it hinges on how evolved actually plays
cerulean crown
so realistically, how early would you have to be to get in front of a ffxiv fanf...
some people were lining up at like 5am
dapper zealot
everything else was just perfection
robust shoal
I suspect we're still on the 2min meta if reborn still exists unless they made evolved and also did major reworks to reborn rotations
which kinda goes against the point of reborn
untold oyster
reborn is gonna be new and evolved is what we currently have no?
amber fable
Why even keep 2 then
dull drum
theres also the thing to consider about future jobs being evolved only from now on
amber fable
I dun get it
robust shoal
reborn is current rotato (like ARR)
amber fable
reborn is gonna be new and evolved is what we currently have no?
Reverse
brisk scarab
Bro, the only thing I can currently see being disliked is reborn/evolved combat portion
dull drum
Why even keep 2 then
probably to let people acclimate to evolved
brisk scarab
Do people play this game out of hatred or something
robust shoal
they'll be updated (iirc there were some new drg icons shown) but play similar to what we have now
dull drum
forcing everyone onto evolved right away without feedback wouldnt be the best idea ever
lol
dapper zealot
Also I love that the Evercold theme has EW/Footfall vibes but much more sombre
dull drum
like if evolved ends up being shit functionally and they just nuked reborn early then its like bruh so reborns there as a failsafe
jade nimbus
it was a chonky cgi trailer tbf
terse zodiac
thats a weird thought if reborn is on 2 min meta and evolved isn't then could be very bad balancing issues between the two
jade nimbus
also that Estinien drop kick was peak
untold oyster
so evolved mode is just ez mode and reborn is what we currently have
dapper zealot
Emet must be rolling in the aetherial sea seeing that we're going to merge all the shards lmao
dull drum
only thing is that the new jobs wont have a reborn, evolved only so
you're stuck with that
brisk scarab
As someone who only really joined FFXIV at the bare-end of Endwalker, what are people who played longer thoughts
visual geyser
Looks good
lavish mortar
i think new jobs should have a reborn and evolved mode
dull drum
legit just wait and see until dev panel
visual geyser
Execution is the main thing now
thin fox
i want to see the evolved differences
dull drum
cause all we can do now is speculate reborn evolved changes
terse zodiac
dragoon getting 3 jumps is nice regardless of anything else
jade nimbus
cool in theory, could be terrible in practice
untold oyster
can't have an opinion until we know more about the systems
jade nimbus
like, that bar bp thingy is weird
untold oyster
this could be a big blunder but we'll see
lavish mortar
I can't wait to start banning Reborn MCH from all my PFs 😩
lyric summit
i cant even tell if this is dnc or ast
jade nimbus
cause how does it work when a season pass and you want to get old gear then? or with substats
untold oyster
you can make the job as easy as possible but you'll still get people in duty finder that don't konw how to roll their gcds so
visual geyser
i cant even tell if this is dnc or ast
Dancer
jade nimbus
and ye, advanced seems it is likely going to be our new rotations with some changes
visual geyser
Dancer always has that look of an open jacket
dapper zealot
Only thing I didn't like was the new character profile UI, which I know is a mockup but it's so vastly different from the actual UI. Either they're changing it to match or they're revamping the ingame UI as well
visual geyser
There’s so many good changes
amber fable
i cant even tell if this is dnc or ast
Dnc
lavish mortar
i cant even tell if this is dnc or ast
does it really matter since you can glam it over anything
thin fox
i'm a little skeptical re: reborn vs evolved. they've talked about having issues with balancing so many jobs already, and now its like they've just doubled the number of jobs.
thin fox
"we struggled to balance 21 jobs. anyway, 8.0 will essentially have 44 jobs."
lyric summit
i'm a little skeptical re: reborn vs evolved. they've talked about having issues...
they already said its not balanced 
lavish mortar
yeah like
I'm in favor of this
Having things be slightly unbalanced is honestly more fun
dull drum
they put pr saying they'll try to balance the two version differences but i doubt it'll be that smooth
lol
dull drum
considering their track record on job balance
visual geyser
I can play whatever the fuk I want
lyric summit
evolved = less buttons, one way to play it and players cant come up with weird opti = easier to balance
reborn = old crusty system that will get taken behind the barn in 2 expansions sorry boomers
untold oyster
either way its whatever
thin fox
i would probs prefer just gutting reborn mode but maybe that'll happen next expac
untold oyster
there'll be a best option to play damage-wise and that's what we'll pick
brisk scarab
The ilvl change is so fucking good too
So I would assume they would have to be same level, right
visual geyser
I mean I’ll level everything to 110
jade nimbus
The ilvl change is good
brisk scarab
oh yeah same LOL
visual geyser
I’m thinking about alliance raids and how my healers aren’t geared at all
terse zodiac
i just hope evolved jobs are more fun doing low level stuff
jade nimbus
I hope it comes with a way to raise substats too
visual geyser
I still have jobs running around in fucking chaotic gear
terse zodiac
but less buttons probably theyll be even worse
robust shoal
I wonder what new armory does to ultimate syncing
lyric summit
why is yshtola old
thin fox
like isnt using e.g. 7.2 bis in fru really bad
thin fox
theres a lot we still need to know really
visual geyser
I forgot about the action game change
visual geyser
Action glams could be a really cool reward
thin fox
like ok i have ilvl 850 on my tank which reflects to all other jobs
what stats will my other jobs have?
stats/substats
untold oyster
when dev panel will it be streamed
lavish mortar
what stats will my other jobs have?
very true
robust shoal
will we still need to update gear while leveling
lyric summit
wonder if this is halmarut
its a cat
you can see the tail in an earlier shot
they put her in a hood to hide cat ears but forgot to delete the tail
untold oyster
fuck i shouldve been watching this live im having to cath up on everything lol
so is ilvl shraed between jobs now?
pallid kindle
yes
thin fox
your highest ilvl will be reflected in your other jobs
pallid kindle
lyric summit
untold oyster
they just need to do away with the loot reduction from doing savage with people that have already done it lol
pallid kindle
also since we're going to a shard, the places we go will reflect places on the source
untold oyster
unless this is part of that
thin fox
we dont really know what thats gonna imply re: stats yet
lyric summit
unless this is part of that
not really, cause it's all sky islands
the surface is frozen to fuck
lavish mortar
will we still need to update gear while leveling
yeah this will be interesting, not that any "leveling gear" (i.e. non-tomestone gear for levels X0) was really that useful to keep anyways
rapid whale
im gonna assume it's like, lets say u got raid helm when u ilvl sync on an alt job, u still got raid helm, but aug tome helm might have been true bis on that job
untold oyster
i was referring to savage loots
lyric summit
also since we're going to a shard, the places we go will reflect places on the s...
@ this
pallid kindle
we dont really know what thats gonna imply re: stats yet
you will still need to obtain BiS for jobs, but playing alts will be easier
as far as we know, getting BiS is unchanged
untold oyster
that'll be nice
thin fox
ok but again that doesnt answer the question of what your stats will be
lavish mortar
I'm gonna level my FT alt to 80 so I can try out evolved changes before I buy probably
pallid kindle
ok but again that doesnt answer the question of what your stats will be
we dont know.
pallid kindle
we know just as much as you do
robust shoal
yeah this will be interesting, not that any "leveling gear" (i.e. non-tomestone ...
it's so much inventory bloat just keeping X0 sets
untold oyster
if square enix doesnt suck i'll be able to help friends with savage without killing their loots
thin fox
I said we dont know!
robust shoal
also the poetics cost for one role all the way to cap is insane
thin fox
if square enix doesnt suck i'll be able to help friends with savage without kill...
that aint happening chief
keep ur alt levelled
robust shoal
I solo old savages for leveling gear and just buy level X1 gear off mb for higher levels atp
thin fox
we're deadass blacklisting you from all of NA if you join reclears on switch 2
lavish mortar
it's so much inventory bloat just keeping X0 sets
oh well yeah that's also true
lyric summit
that aint happening chief
it might, considering "savage gear" is in the new character progression menu
it might just go full personal loot
lavish mortar
yeah maybe it's finally guaranteed savage loot
lyric summit
but it would also likely mean you have to grind points weekly, and can't funnel it to dps
proper cave
Vault would be a nice thing to swipe
lavish mortar
Not "I had to get everything from books because I never won anything"
visual geyser
I’m so happy that they’re adding a new raid difficulty
boreal pumice
proper cave
My FC is stoked about new difficulty
dapper zealot
There's an actual difficulty progression now without weird gaps
visual geyser
Advanced and PT really was the gate way for the intermediate difficulty
dapper zealot
Normal > advance > ex > new thing > savage
boreal pumice
Advanced and PT really was the gate way for the intermediate difficulty
PT?
visual geyser
Dd
dapper zealot
Pilgrim
boreal pumice
no like im legit questoning you
zealous meteor
we're deadass blacklisting you from all of NA if you join reclears on switch 2
isn't the switch 2 pretty powerful though
dapper zealot
Wonder if they'll add a bridge between savage and ult in 9.0 kek
zealous meteor
there shouldn't be any more lag than on other consoles
visual geyser
pt they added a lot of features that made it easier for people
boreal pumice
its a super easy one like at most its a slightly harder expert dungeon
visual geyser
- quantum scaling the way it does
dapper zealot
Where did quantum sit on the scale again?
jade nimbus
But also ps4 is getting dropped cause of a data size limit
robust shoal
Q40 is like a 4th floor savage
boreal pumice
chiyo said like savage or just below it
robust shoal
idk what Q15 is like
rapid whale
My FC is stoked about new difficulty
advanced raid might actually be the midcore content ppl have been begging for
robust shoal
But like, Q40 took about the same pulls to prog blind as M8S and M8S had hands
300 exactly for blind M8S and like 275 or sth for Q40
untold oyster
with siwtch 2 i will be the first person in the world to clear an ultimate on the toilet
zealous meteor
you can already do that on the steam deck 
or hell, playstation portal
or whatever their streaming tablet is called
lyric summit
robust shoal
and quantum is shorter, which means more difficult mechs to hit parity with a 14 minute savage
or is it 13
jaunty pulsar
can someone tell to that dumbass from wow on the live to shut up
zealous meteor
oh they got the dwarf beards
clearly these are evolved lalafells
jaunty pulsar
I never subscribed so I can't -.-
rapid whale
if we see a bunch of pallicos in a pile, cats is immortalized
lyric summit
lavish mortar
My FC is stoked about new difficulty
Well honestly I'm not a huge fan of the change, cuz I feel like it might dilute the pool of raiders that we already have. Like it's obviously not gonna be a total obliteration of the population but trying to get people for your prog point can be a bit of a pain in the ass depending on the time of day and time relative to savage release, and I just feel like this is not going to be a net player gain for savage raiding overall
thin fox
???
loud nymph
wat
thin fox
what is blud wafflin about
brisk scarab
You might be the only person Ive seen dislike the idea
proper cave
An on ramp is much better than a sudden jump that 80% of players can't make
loud nymph
Well honestly I'm not a huge fan of the change, cuz I feel like it might dilute ...
Did you miss the part where the new difficulty is easier than savage
thin fox
yeah its not savage+ its savage-
loud nymph
which means it'll bring more people into the raiding pool
boreal pumice
its inbetween
loud nymph
People who are doing savage now will continue to do savage
thin fox
now @dull drum can clear a tier on tank finally
dull drum
now <@324701710541127690> can clear a tier on tank finally
um actually i cleared heavyweight on tank
thin fox
clear a real tier
dull drum
brisk scarab
Thats so mean
thin fox
like ABYSSOS 
loud nymph
how will adding something that's easier than savage (with worse rewards) dilute the pool of players available for savage
jade nimbus
It has a tab for savage gear
worn bluff
i hope the ulti title is just Clown
jade nimbus
I wonder what that is about
thin fox
i really fucking hope that the new difficulty has twine/shine rewards 😭
lavish mortar
People who are doing savage now will continue to do savage
Well, my stance also has to do with the gear progression changes, and them hinting at potentially being able to acquire savage gear without having to do savage itself
loud nymph
i hope the ulti title is just Clown
Clown Legend
robust shoal
there's some sort of gear progression for the middle difficulty, please look forward to 4th floor middle difficulty copium pfs on sunday/monday
brisk scarab
Am I dumb for asking why there isnt other iltimate rewards like a mount
worn bluff
Ultimate Clown
lyric summit
i dont think you should think of any 8.0 content rewards in the context of current gearing
brisk scarab
Like, theres the weapon and title
lyric summit
cause its gonna be a whole new game
loud nymph
Well, my stance also has to do with the gear progression changes, and them hinti...
We don't know anywhere near enough about what 8.x gearing will look like to be doomposting at this level yet
jfc
jade nimbus
Everything is hazy
lavish mortar
Same goes for being positive about then no?
brisk scarab
Like, is adding a ultimate mount too much of a ask to farm
jade nimbus
Outside looking weird, I just hope the ilvl thing has an equivalent in savage
Like a sub system to spec substats depending on the job you play
lavish mortar
But yeah, everything's too hazy
I'm just thinking that this could be one possibility
worn bluff
Like, is adding a ultimate mount too much of a ask to farm
only if it’s the cutest mount in the game
jade nimbus
But also then gearing a job would be wacky
dapper zealot
i hope the ulti title is just Clown
lyric summit
Well, my stance also has to do with the gear progression changes, and them hinti...
also so what, why gatekeep highest ilvl in the game to specific content if those people don't even want to do the content with you
untold oyster
ultimate exclusive mount would be so funny i need this too
lyric summit
them getting the gear wont affect you in any way lmao
untold oyster
people already got mad about the megaloambystoma being from savage
lyric summit
i wish i could get max ilvl through big fishing (it's harder than savage tier)
worn bluff
maybe if they put the best mounts in savage/ulti more people will do them
like all of the best mounts
lavish mortar
also so what, why gatekeep highest ilvl in the game to specific content if those...
Well, cuz I like savage, I will probably want to do savage, but if it becomes just another mostly challenge difficulty like ultimates, I feel like fewer players will bother with it
Again, we'll have to see, everything's too hazy, we've only had hints at what could be
untold oyster
they never said savage would become harder
lavish mortar
I mean in the sort of style
untold oyster
oh i see what you mean
lavish mortar
Yeah
lyric summit
rn people do savage cause its fun and to get gear to do savage, self eating snake
loud nymph
But....savage exists right now as a mostly challenge difficulty
untold oyster
like someone else said there was a tab exclusively for savage gear in the new character panel
loud nymph
because gear in this game doesn't fucking matter
lyric summit
there's no reason to get gear from savage to take it to any other content rn (other than the challenge difficulty ultimate)
untold oyster
most likely scenario is that the inbetween difficulty will give gear upgrades but not pieces like savage
dull drum
and or an ultimate but it still stands as a challenge difficulty cause the gear dies out in like 2 patches
worn bluff
is it a hot take to say i think yoshi P’s character has bad glam and idk why he keeps using it for presentations?
dull drum
but yeah
loud nymph
So savage is already the "do this because you want the challenge" thing
pallid kindle
is it a hot take to say i think yoshi P’s character has bad glam and idk why he ...
he has his own account we dont know about btw
boreal pumice
is it a hot take to say i think yoshi P’s character has bad glam and idk why he ...
guess he just likes minfilla
pallid kindle
its just an iconic outfit and i doubt he'll stop using it for the game director account
jade nimbus
like someone else said there was a tab exclusively for savage gear in the new ch...
Yo, that was me
untold oyster
good job
lavish mortar
hmm, yeah, that's actually a good point. I guess the majority of savage players are more in it for the satisfaction of having done something hard rather than the gear. Though the gear is nice because it lets you do savage easier which is also part of the satisfaction...
Bah, I'm thinking about it too much
Hope they keep working on the system
dull drum
its just its own self loop yeah
lavish mortar
It's at least something to shake things up
odd beacon
a lot of raiders do it just for the achievement.. cant fall behind on the treadmill
because their circles tend to be raiders too
jade nimbus
Jokes aside, we'll see more at other fan fest and then at the livestream and then at the mediatour
worn bluff
hmm, yeah, that's actually a good point. I guess the majority of savage players ...
it’s a gameplay loop that not everyone is into. i sometimes even wonder why i bothered doing reclears for bis if i’m not sure i’ll do ulti
i should just clear once then unsub
odd beacon
At first I really wanted them to sell Evolved more but now I realized Evolved is the new normal and Reborn existing is just a transitional thing
I don't see Reborn surviving into 10.0
lavish mortar
How do you reckon?
zealous meteor
so we better pray they implement evolved decently
if they don't we have like two expacs to complain about it
loud nymph
I don't see Reborn surviving into 10.0
Definitely not
dull drum
cause all new jobs from here on out will only have evolved it makes no sense to keep reborn around after a decent chunk of time has passed, just for pre cold jobs
worn bluff
i’m not really following why reborn has to exist as a transitional thing, but it’s not clear what evolved will be ig
jade nimbus
if they don't we have like two expacs to complain about it
Just like we did with 2 min meta, oh, wait
worn bluff
like idk why not just rip the bandaid off as if they reworked all jobs
jade nimbus
Realistically evolved is just your new rotation too with a possibility for different variation maybe
odd beacon
like idk why not just rip the bandaid off as if they reworked all jobs
They did
Thats Evolved
Reborn is there so its not as rough of a transition
loud nymph
like idk why not just rip the bandaid off as if they reworked all jobs
They did, they're just giving people the option to stick with what they know for a year or two
worn bluff
they already promised combat rework
boreal pumice
like idk why not just rip the bandaid off as if they reworked all jobs
people are scared of change and not to be gently pushed then shoved
zealous meteor
reborn is there so people don't quit en masse on 8.0 launch
dull drum
i mean just don’t have reborn
right but they cant just willy nilly change it immediately esp when its pretty significant
yeah exactly
if evolved is shit implementation, then reborn is the backup plan
odd beacon
Plus new jobs specifically being Evolved only means there's more meat to what Evolved is rather than just what they showcased
dull drum
until they fix evolved
boreal pumice
what would you call it legacy?
worn bluff
i mean they’ve reworked jobs without notice before it’s just now it’d be all jobs
lyric summit
i feel like pct and vpr are already lowkey evolved with all the button swapping
untold oyster
wait it's evolved that will do slightly more damage right?
lyric summit
but we'll see on the dev panel
loud nymph
Yeah, Blizzard has been going through the exact same thing with Midnight, lots of changes to the combat and the reception has been....kinda mixed
jade nimbus
Btw
dull drum
i mean they’ve reworked jobs without notice before it’s just now it’d be all job...
yeah but one-few job vs all jobs is a different scope
lol
eager jackal
They're probably using it as a test run to see which people prefer
jade nimbus
Why does high jump get 3 stacks
zealous meteor
i feel like pct and vpr are already lowkey evolved with all the button swapping
i expect pct and vpr to change very little between reborn and evolved
loud nymph
So I can see why they are adding an option for people
boreal pumice
wait it's evolved that will do slightly more damage right?
its what yoshi said slightly
lyric summit
wait it's evolved that will do slightly more damage right?
yeah the new simple ones
worn bluff
idk i guess i wouldn’t have cared personally if my job was reworked or if all of them were reworked
jade nimbus
Was drg starved for one more jump
lavish mortar
Was drg starved for one more jump
I wouldn't take anything from that as hard proof of what the kits will be
eager jackal
Welcome back nastrond
lavish mortar
There was continuation
jade nimbus
First off, I think advanced will introduce what Viper and Picto have already btw
lavish mortar
And the PVP DRG LB on that hotbar
odd beacon
it had the PvP LB I don't think that hotbar was an indication of anything
jade nimbus
Namely the 123 being on the same button at least
odd beacon
😭
tulip wraith
? is this just not pure guess and check
lavish mortar
I think that's mostly placeholder
odd beacon
? is this just not pure guess and check
Yea lmao
worn bluff
drg right now just feels like oGCD whackamole
jade nimbus
Fair enough
odd beacon
That's not really what Blind Prog is 😭
especially since the criterias are so fucking random
Actual Blind Prog you have a lot of assumptions based on past experience
lavish mortar
drg right now just feels like oGCD whackamole
DRK too
odd beacon
past experience ain't helping you when the criteria is "The job opposite of me doesn't shower"
lavish mortar
I've been playing a lot of FFXI and I laugh when I remember DRK is a tank in FF14 because DRK in XI is the FURTHEST thing from a tank
Other than its 2h cd
odd beacon
Anyway individualization means there's some layers of customization
jade nimbus
You know
odd beacon
But dev panel is at 4am here so my ass isn't staying up
jade nimbus
I just realized one thing
lavish mortar
hit ogcd, new one appears
tru
odd beacon
I wish they just went into detail then
lavish mortar
If they don't implement some stat checks
stat checks? wouldn't that just be just IL restrictions? 🤔
loud nymph
when is the dev panel, like, how many hours from now
jade nimbus
So, ye, about that
lavish mortar
when is the dev panel, like, how many hours from now
90 minutes roughly?
zealous meteor
wdym stat checks
odd beacon
Especially at max ilvl
loud nymph
ok cool I should be home by then
odd beacon
My ass ran full raid gear altjobbing tank in TOP
jade nimbus
To clarify, I just mean that people will be able to hop on in savage cause they get ilvl boosted by the new system, even if their gear is pretty bad
terse zodiac
if the inputs are accurate then evolved might not have positionals
bc they remove true north
odd beacon
Oh I mean that's not statchecking
lavish mortar
To clarify, I just mean that people will be able to hop on in savage cause they ...
you mean like, if the healers get a ton of gear with piety?
zealous meteor
i assume that it'll be like. you have an ilvl 710 set for WHM
and you can sync it up to 790
and the stats will be the ilvl 710 gear's stats but with 790 numbers
odd beacon
That's already a thing anyway
jade nimbus
We'll have to see how they tackle that
eager jackal
Oh so you can transform gear between jobs that have the same ilvl?
That's kinda neat
odd beacon
Oh so you can transform gear between jobs that have the same ilvl?
Jobs will sync to highest ilvl job
zealous meteor
but until they expand on the system (at fanfest or at 8.0 launch) we just don't know
lavish mortar
i assume that it'll be like. you have an ilvl 710 set for WHM
and you can sync i...
I assume this as well, but doesn't this mean you can just grab level 40 healer gear with DHit and run that?
odd beacon
Substats like materia won't, you need to have the actual gear if you want materia
lavish mortar
Like I wonder if there's a restriction on how much the IL can be boosted up
I imagine there is and it's like
eager jackal
Hmm, hopefully that'll be a toggle
odd beacon
You know the best thing about this is levelling is a fuckton easier
visual geyser
Bro
lavish mortar
The gear needs to be in the same gear bracket like 91-100
robust shoal
they used 790 as an example so I image it works up to bis
odd beacon
You can ilvl boost the new job and not worry about its gear
zealous meteor
The gear needs to be in the same gear bracket like 91-100
grab a mix of artifact gear and first tomestone gear that has the substats you want, then sync it up to bis
odd beacon
especially 90 -> 100
jade nimbus
You can ilvl boost the new job and not worry about its gear
Didn't they say it only works with jobs that are the same lvl/max lvl?
odd beacon
oh right they did nvm 
clear plume
the no materia makes it mostly not useful for end game duties tbqh
odd beacon
I mean
If you really cared about the substats you likely would be chasing the gear anyway
jade nimbus
That never stopped people in pf
lavish mortar
Substats like materia won't, you need to have the actual gear if you want materi...
This sounds quite realistic because what would basically happen is that you wouldn't be able to do savage on alt jobs like this until you have bis on one job to compensate for the lack of materia on whatever class u end up taking in that's not geared
odd beacon
And at a high enough ilvl not having materia (I still don't recommend CURRENTLY) is not that detrimental to not have materia
lavish mortar
Like 790 unmelded probably is similar to 770 melded right?
odd beacon
no??
dull drum
fuck no
odd beacon
big mainstat jump
untold oyster
mainstat outweighs substats by a lot
loud nymph
Like 790 unmelded probably is similar to 770 melded right?
What? No, not even close.
Lmao
odd beacon
Its significantly better
untold oyster
only time you see less than max ilvl bis is with healers because they can have substats that dont contribute to dps at all
lavish mortar
Ok then yeah that's what I'm thinkin
loud nymph
790 unmelded blows 770 with full penta out of the water
lavish mortar
like if u went into this tier with 770 penta'd
tulip wraith
Clock Spots Apr 24, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 8:06
🔀 57 swaps
my brain hurted on this one
lavish mortar
then u switch to alt job. it becomes 770. but unmelded
so you can't play that shit
odd beacon
Clock Spots Apr 24, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 8:06
🔀 57 swaps
my brain hurted on this on...
i hate the fucking rescues so much bro
my brain hurt
lavish mortar
once u start getting gear tho
then it starts becoming viable
so i see what u mean by stat checks
eager jackal
I didn't realize the rescues weren't attached to a specific job
tulip wraith
same
tulip wraith
i thought you had to put the tethered jobs 2 counter clockwise to match the rule, not it always rescues 2 counter clock wise
jade nimbus
Evolved mode in a nutshell
lavish mortar
but they might still show as a 770 person
odd beacon
okay yea if someone alt jobs at lowest ilvl recommended they're gimping themselves
eager jackal
i thought you had to put the tethered jobs 2 counter clockwise to match the rule...
Yeah same
jade nimbus
(Stolen from twitter)
odd beacon
but good thing you'll be at 772 at least
solution ||I saw someone said "today's puzzle solution says BLM is a physical job"||
dull drum
Evolved mode in a nutshell
could age horribly or gracefully depending on the dev panel and actual implementation
i'll wait till i see it
jade nimbus
could age horribly or gracefully depending on the dev panel and actual implement...
It is more in the sense evolved does more damage
odd beacon
||mf did the puzzle without even doing it right||
dull drum
i'll wait till i see the calcs
eager jackal
I cannot wait for the "use xyz mode or kick"
odd beacon
0.1%
jade nimbus
Also people work fast
odd beacon
tulip wraith
||mf did the puzzle without even doing it right||
that was lowkey me at the end, i was like 7/8 and started moving somethings i wasn't 100% on at random and it worked lol
odd beacon
tbh the sole reason I wish they just ripped the bandaid off Reborn is so we don't have this conversation of "Evolved only"
But then again people will want more DPS anyway so they'll learn Evolved so its a self fulfilling thing
eager jackal
I think they're using this to gauge the reception to the job rework
eager jackal
See what the playerbase pref
dull drum
collecting datas good yeah
if it ends up being widely unpopular either evolved gets scrapped or it gets majorly reworked but considering their stance theyd prob just scrap it if it got extremely negative feedback
boreal pumice
Wonder if itl matter by region like jp prefer na/ eu that
tulip wraith
tbh the sole reason I wish they just ripped the bandaid off Reborn is so we don'...
my hot take is i like my button bloat jobs </3
eager jackal
That or they keep reworking evolved jobs till they hit the engagement metric
Then kill reborn
wicked delta
im sick of this dude
boreal pumice
A
untold oyster
im sick of this dude
final fantasy xiv's first chud savage boss
odd beacon
my hot take is i like my button bloat jobs </3
tbh
this is a button squish
evolved will have as much buttons by 10.0
odd beacon
speaking of squish I'm surprised they didn't announce a stat squish
😭
We're at more than ShB numbers
tight wing
rapid whale
wdym by gonna have
boreal pumice
Nah shb was bigger
robust shoal
they said at one point they dealt with the number issue
odd beacon
im 100% sure HPs are higher than ShB now
i forgot how much was ShB dps so i cant say for sure
robust shoal
shb was smaller numbers by a lot
boreal pumice
I remember seeing eureka/ bozja numbers in shb bring stupidly high
robust shoal
we're at like double end of shb numbers
odd beacon
they were a lot lower
boreal pumice
Old ast sects 
boreal pumice
wtf is yeeyeeass
untold oyster
yeeyee-ass haircut
clear plume
it was also specifically bc of things like bozja that really pushed it over the edge aggro number wise
boreal pumice
Oh Lamar
odd beacon
it was also specifically bc of things like bozja that really pushed it over the ...
makes me curious how much HP will FT:M have
odd beacon
how much did FT:B boss did
clear plume
bosses I dont think matter, I think its legit they dont want tanks doing so much damage that their aggro overflows to zero
robust shoal
one day I'll do FTB
clear plume
i swear they mentioned that somewhere but dont have the quote on me
robust shoal
yeah there was an aggro overflow issue
clear plume
but they managed to add extra intergers there to fix it
boreal pumice
I did a nearly all knights run it was still quite easy
eager jackal
They might've done some backend stuff to future proof
odd beacon
Magitaur had 511,611,100 HP
zealous meteor
bosses I dont think matter, I think its legit they dont want tanks doing so much...
wasn't it heals too?
tank using essence boosted lost cure 4 in tank stance
zealous meteor
NO
trim frost
oh i just realized
trim frost
sea wolves with natural skin tones now
clear plume
Sorry, it’ll be broken with evolved jobs anyways it goes to the dumpster
dapper zealot
We can dye Sam green
zealous meteor
We can dye Sam green
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
pallid kindle
delete reborn mode ASAP!
odd beacon
uncut pebble
the epic of alexander two!
valid solar
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/evercold/
cold, aura, estinien and alphinaud
welcome back heavensward
boreal pumice
Eh need more info
odd beacon
dev panel in an hour..
clear plume
rapid whale
lol
eager jackal
Lmfao
boreal pumice
While I doubt this will happen I’d love to see them to some ideas from exp 33 sciel could be a thing for ast, lune mages etc
visual geyser
"greater emphasis on job identity"
W buzz word
odd beacon
i mean its kinda wild so ill give them benefit of doubt
visual geyser
odd beacon
this time
visual geyser
Bro zenos would be proud
whole estuary
new job Reaper!!!!!!!!
visual geyser
Tbf zero stole paladin when that was wol expansion job
Tf is gonna be our new job rep
Who tf is that au ra at the end of the trailer
jolly flume
remote gate
will the pf fill before they get in
slim sparrow
hear me out.
Rhitatyn means right judge, Judge Tank
Rhitatan Sas Arvina = RSA = Rune Sword Arts = Rune Fencer Tank
Guess Who's Back? Shady's back = Rapper/Songstress Phys Ranged with mic weapon
Arvina = Irvine from ff8 = Sniper phys ranged
vestal hollow
its definitely just a dual shield job
remote gate
i hope the new tank is cool enough for me to make my ffxiv personality revolve around it
tulip anvil
i hope the new tank is cool enough for me to make my ffxiv personality revolve a...
well its not warrior so i dont see that happening
#holmgang
jade nimbus
its definitely just a dual shield job
Either that, or a shield job and then a dual gun job
valid solar
anyone noticed WoL VPR had the swords sidesheathed
it was like that in the DT trailer too im pretty sure
jade nimbus
rather than backsheathed
It was like that in DT trailer too
odd beacon
dang
valid solar
its only in game that its backsheathe
valid solar
I dont remember why but im pretty sure yoshi p did comment on it
remote gate
priority of defense over damage?
valid solar
heres my take on the pranged: its not corsair because it was confirmed to be ffxiv original, ergo, its shit
remote gate
like it still have a burst but all its attacks give hp/shields
odd beacon
I mean ffxiv original can mean an npc had it in the past
thin fox
give me a tank w 2 big fuck off tower shields that beats enemiees w them
odd beacon
like picto they said was xiv original but lo and behold
terse zodiac
when did they say picto was xiv original
remote gate
like picto they said was xiv original but lo and behold
realm from ffvi:
odd beacon
Didn't they say it for DT jobs?
thin fox
viper is the original job
terse zodiac
no they just said starting in endwalker theyd be branching into original jobs
lost sinew
reaper is original and sage is original in all but name
odd beacon
youre gonna make me dig the 2023 vegas fanfest
sleek moon
Y'all sound like you play on reb*rn mode
thin fox
there will be
NO reborn players
NO switch 2 players
and most importantly
NO mch players
in MY pfs
sleek moon
R12S hector braindead towers no reborn no switch 2
remote gate
Doomers can't bother me this week, no more aether traveling
i missed this part what was the traveling thing all about?
thin fox
region pf
remote gate
thank fucking god
odd beacon
and also
dapper zealot
Look at y'all with your fancy regional pf, think you're so better
remote gate
no way
whole estuary
All regions deserve to have our nightclub PFs
dapper zealot
whole estuary
You're welcome
remote gate
sam you dont have to worry about traveling to aether when the earth is perfectly aligned with the other planets to play in aether anymore
odd beacon
im lowkey curious where will they take BLM evolved
jade nimbus
Out back
pallid kindle
sam you dont have to worry about traveling to aether when the earth is perfectly...
KILL ALL AETHER PLAYERS!
i hope all other DCs remove aether players from PFs so they can feel a fraction of the pain
jade nimbus
Btw did ddos just stop one day
wicked delta
Btw did ddos just stop one day
after heavyweight savage it stopped
loud nymph
KILL ALL AETHER PLAYERS!
good idea
wicked delta
visual geyser
Like they can start back up on Tuesday lol
dapper zealot
No, you get this left
terse zodiac
yes thats correct
marble grove
JP is the actual reveal of the release day also?
pallid kindle
JP is the actual reveal of the release day also?
we dont know.
marble grove
And pre-orders open
pallid kindle
we dont know.
marble grove
What do you know smh
pallid kindle
we didnt even get the release date for DT until after JP
we should get it at EU or JP thouygh
marble grove
I forgor
pallid kindle
but we dont know
marble grove
Just wild how much they're doing for 8.0
It's almost like the last CEO was (probably) the problem 
rapid whale
surely when the ceo said they would give xiv full support they meant the budget right
zealous meteor
haha
marble grove
R-Right?
remote gate
surely when the ceo said they would give xiv full support they meant the budget ...
all the NFT and crypto funds
marble grove
the gameplay one?
versed kayak
It's almost like the last CEO was (probably) the problem <:omegalul:700947479134...
when did they change CEOs? (if you know)
marble grove
jesus... uh
I know for sure it was before Dawntrail
2023
so it was during DT development
versed kayak
I see
lost sinew
One interpretation: The Square Enix CEO showed up on stage to talk about how they're giving 14 more money!
A second interpretation: The CEO showed up on stage to announce the extra Nintendo-only sub...
jaunty pulsar
I hope they don't change subs :3 I used to be a crafter but I don't have a lot of time anymore so I invested gil into power leveling submarines.. it'd be horrible if they remove that passive income
jaunty pulsar
nice, if there wasn't another license I'd buy a switch 2 to play around
but just as a secondary device
marble grove
Steam deck
marble grove
Steam Deck 2 should be in the works
marble grove
works well?
from what I've seen, yeah
jaunty pulsar
I wonder though if u gotta go that route, isn't a good notebook for gaming better?
switch 2 has pokemons xd
marble grove
i mean, different portability
I use a laptop as my main drive and it is easier to move around
proper dagger
seeing theories on the new phys ranged and people are getting my hopes up that its gonna be songstress related. oh my ffx-2 hopium 
marble grove
plus if you go on a vacation you can take it with you
but you can't play XiV in bed and stay comfy
verbal whale
I PRAY for Corsair
wicked delta
wont be
terse zodiac
wasted prayers considering its gonna be an ffxiv unique job
wicked delta
jobs will be unique
pallid kindle
seeing theories on the new phys ranged and people are getting my hopes up that i...
both are a unique job to ff14
terse zodiac
at least we also know it wont be blitzball then
cant wait for another 3 years of people crying about blitzball
proper dagger
both are a unique job to ff14
im excited nonetheless
but if its songstress my fangirl will come out
dapper zealot
songstress is already a legacy job
proper dagger
oh thats true i have bad listening skills..
a ranger would be cool too
it would break the mold for how mch is split from dnc and brd
verbal whale
I main bard but it doesnt cut my true ranger needs
timber stratus
id love a proper gunner too since mch mostly does mech shit, i just want dual guns and a sniper or something
verbal whale
or some type of crossbow gun would be lit
dapper zealot
hmmm, one of the jobs usually ties in with the expac
gunner based on those laser shooty constructs?
dapper zealot
basicaly sage but not healer