endgame-lounge

[stray forge]

I think Diet Coke is nasty

[jolly flume]

yea I know

[trim frost]

diet soda has this weird lack of aftertaste that i don’t like

[jolly flume]

you LIKE american soda aftertaste?

[dull drum]

can agree with this yeah

[jolly flume]

the corn syrup residue is nasty af

[woven halo]

haelll naurr

[jolly flume]

if it's like the cane sugar versions

i get it

[trim frost]

it depends on the soda

[random needle]

I really really fucking wish I didn't like soda as much as I did

[trim frost]

and it’s more of a habit kinda thing

but tbh i just drink fruit juice with sparkling water these days

[random needle]

Why did they have to make the Fat And Slow Death Elixir so fucking sweet

[jolly flume]

I main mango arizona these days

but I was a sprite fiend once upon a time

[dull drum]

I main half and half arizona

green tea arizona alt job

[stray forge]

I really dislike overly sweet things

[jolly flume]

do you hate korean food

[stray forge]

Even the mass produced chocolate is too much

[dull drum]

i have a giga sweet tooth

[jolly flume]

bapple always says he doesn't like a lot of korean food bc it's too sweet

[stray forge]

I can only eat dark chocolate

[jolly flume]

me personally I have the tastes of a 6 year old

[dull drum]

only chocolate i can tolerate is crunch chocolate, or basically anything that isnt hersheys

no idea why

i think hersheys is fucking vile

[stray forge]

I only like kimbap and occasionally their wings

I haven’t really eaten that much Korean food tbh

I’m sorry but their pizza is really weird to me

[jolly flume]

I like white chocolate a lot

[stray forge]

[jolly flume]

other two are mid

[stray forge]

I’m not really a fan of cheese on noodles either

[jolly flume]

I meant more like

their meat marinades

and whatnot

cheese on noodles is weird tho

[stray forge]

Hmm I guess some of it has been pretty sweet but I didn’t think it was like overwhelmingly sweet

[jolly flume]

they're still the goats for gochujang tbh

I make stew with it at least once a week

[stray forge]

I think that canto pork dish is more intolerably sweet

[jolly flume]

sweet and sour?

by which I mean 99% sweet 1% sour

I always loved that as a kid but the walnut mayo fried shrimp have it beat for me now

[stray forge]

These Peking pork chop things

Is really sweet

I also loved it as a kid

[trim frost]

i fw those heavy

[vestal hollow]

damn

ive gotta get in on cn cooking more

im gonna try to make congee tonight

[trim frost]

congee is so fire

i need a pumpkin and century egg congee stat

[vestal hollow]

i got some ground turkey and im gonna cook the rice in chicken stock

[rapid whale]

share

[jolly flume]

with pork floss!!!

[trim frost]

and pickled bamboo shoots

what

[vestal hollow]

just go on wee for em

i need to get some other stuff through them actuall

y

want to experiment with sichuan stuff

[wicked delta]

0.01% enrage pain peko

[trim frost]

🥀

[loud nymph]

[jolly flume]

love me some cock brand cock

[loud swift]

wings dont exist

[zealous meteor]

noted

[rain geode]

huh!?

[tulip wraith]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HAxQdOHbEAAZCnn.gif

[tulip wraith]

just ran m9 and 10 with my occult gear

didnt realize until pull 3 of m11

[trim frost]

adrian m7s bozjan earring incident

[tulip wraith]

the fact we got clears though

[boreal pumice]

your deep magic ring doesnt work

[tulip wraith]

i know but its the thought that counts

[boreal pumice]

this is what happens when the glam is the same

[tulip wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/skating-basketball-slam-dunk-ice-gif-24361241

[rapid whale]

see it isnt gear

[jolly flume]

wym

I'm always gear diffed

after all I am the perfect player

what else could possibly be holding me back

[rapid whale]

16 pounds of jollibees in your stomach

[jolly flume]

mb

[random needle]

Man

[uncut pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-buddha-chuddha-chud-nothing-ever-happens-gif-5905117637949226818

[remote gate]

i have a few questions about m10:

is it normal for both tanks to get the same snaking debuff because it happened every fight while progging
is it possible to get full melee uptime for fire floater with or without the tether
for drk, the second time salt and darkness comes up is when deep blue is solo and hes only on screen for a short time. is it best to hold salt until he comes back or just use it

[thin tartan]

1. No g1 and g2 should have different buffs. If they have a same one then they didnt bait proximity for debuff assignment correctly
2. Probably not lowkey
3. Send. If you press it on 2nd gcd in opener or something you can get an additional cleave before ia1

As for debuffs, each boss will give debuff to the four closest people to each boss

This is why you stack under your respective boss

if you float in the middle then die

[remote gate]

alright cool

[jolly flume]

you can full uptime it

just get greedy

why tf am I solid

[rapid whale]

You saw an aura

[amber fable]

Ask your co tank to not stand at same boss

G1 blue g2 red

And it doesnt mean you will get blue if you're near it

Just that debuff spread equally

[dusk sky]

Plus its random whether they’ll target the 4 nearest or 4 farthest with their debuff, yeah?

Or something to that effect

[amber fable]

Yes

Main thing is we get 4/4 debuff spread

[kind elm]

same targeting as m7s did in p1 for the brambles/puddles division

you cant know whos getting what but you can control who's grouped together

i hope they do more m10s style stuff in future

that fight is really good

a fight where the two light parties are doing completely diff mechanics is so cool

[amber fable]

My fav fight this tier so far

I didnt do m12 so I am not counting it

[dusk sky]

Right, Sinister Seeds …always hated ranged on cross aoes during debris deathmatch

[jolly flume]

they did that in 11

group 2 payphones weapons while group 1 gets to crossmap it

[kind elm]

true...

also payphone as a verb

peak

https://klipy.com/gifs/stable-ronaldo-pay-phone--k01KPWDB6TW69G32C4KRNVB2MGW

[jolly flume]

it's a favorite of mine

[thin fox]

still the best raid video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eynm1p87MYQ

god look at how tiny bubble was

[alpine plover]

why is chiyo ching chiyong

[jolly flume]

i'm so mad I missed abyssos ngl

I would've had the time of my goddamn life

[craggy marsh]

The Abyssos - TOP arc was a funny time

Abyssos showing how dogshit the job balance is and then TOP not getting playtested enough

[wicked delta]

[worn bluff]

i’m sad i didn’t skip P7 to go do P8 with friends

it was my first tier and i was too scared to do a final floor and i also thought they were joking

[trim frost]

for my almost full first tier i thought abyssos was fun

[sinful brook]

Abysmos

I played summoner

L job

[alpine plover]

wait

chat

is whm better than astro pre 100 now in some cases like top

cuz they have plenary and wings for mit while astro has just CU?

[trim frost]

uhhh

well ast still has neutral sect

so that shield probably counts for something

[lyric summit]

%mit aint everything

ast got the infinite range shit

star, macro, horoscope

whm got the stack for cure3

[remote gate]

when 7.5 releases are the 780 tomestone going to stay in locked weekly rewards for m10 even though theyre weaker than the now available 785 weapons

[marble grove]

They uncap the Tomestones thing in x.58 iirc

[alpine plover]

and they probably will uncap the tier by then?

[amber fable]

7.56

[alpine plover]

unlock

[amber fable]

Ew was 6.56 iirc

So I assume its gonna be same

[marble grove]

It was .58 at one point

But ye, probably moved to .56

Which should likely be around Nov?

Considering part 2 is in September

[amber fable]

No

[pallid kindle]

7.56 is september

[marble grove]

Wait

[amber fable]

1 or 2 weeks after 7.55

[marble grove]

Ahhh

[pallid kindle]

7.56 is in september

and its a little more than 1 or 2 weeks after 55

[amber fable]

Whole month for x.x1

[marble grove]

(MSQ) Part 2

Makes sense I guess

[pallid kindle]

part 2 is 7.56

[amber fable]

Well late July

Early sept

[pallid kindle]

no, its 7.56

[amber fable]

So same shit

Week wise

Oh wait

I am dumb lmao

[pallid kindle]

you know august comes after july right

[amber fable]

Month

[pallid kindle]

and then september

[marble grove]

Lmao

[amber fable]

Sheesh

Sorry my bad

Brain.exe not working

[marble grove]

Need some coffee in your system

[amber fable]

I did took a bong

[marble grove]

So JP Fanfest will be release date

[amber fable]

Like 20 min before

[marble grove]

Which if math is mathing

[amber fable]

Should be iirc

[pallid kindle]

we'll def find out the release date at JP

[marble grove]

Feb?.

[amber fable]

Early 2027

[pallid kindle]

we might get a release date in NA

[random needle]

Does drinking coffee count as potting, and if so, which stat does it boost

[pallid kindle]

although i think they alreayd know when its releasing

which should be december

[amber fable]

Vit

[pallid kindle]

people want early 2027 for some reason

idk why we believe its early 2027

[marble grove]

Cause

Christmas

[pallid kindle]

late nov early dec

[amber fable]

Well they said you wont have to wait long

[pallid kindle]

makes the most sense

[amber fable]

Post fanfest

[marble grove]

People think YoshiP will delay the Expansion so people can enjoy Christmas

[amber fable]

People will go crazy if its late 2027

[marble grove]

Cause Holidays

But if we go with that logic

[pallid kindle]

its not at all 2027

[marble grove]

March

[pallid kindle]

its not march

thats like a 11 month wait

[marble grove]

March is the month with almost no holidays lol

[pallid kindle]

lol

you know 6.5 was a 9 month wait right

imagine that, AGAIN, but WORSE

[amber fable]

Well we will know soon enough

[pallid kindle]

its def late nov early dec

[marble grove]

there's people who want a fucking battle pass in this game

[pallid kindle]

we already have one

its called malmstones

[amber fable]

People want lot of things

Not all of it is feasible

[marble grove]

Tru

[pallid kindle]

also

december is ON SCHEDULE

2 1/2 years after DT is decemebr 2026

its not any earlier than it should be

if its after that, thats late

[marble grove]

December would be awesome

[amber fable]

I dont expect 2026

[marble grove]

Imagine tomorrow we get "Holiday 2026"

[amber fable]

Would be suprised if it was ngl

[pallid kindle]

im expecting 2026

[marble grove]

If it's 2027 it'll be Feb/March

[pallid kindle]

theres no reason for me to believe otherwise

and its 100% not MARCH

[thin fox]

i would be very surprised @ 2026 given that 7.55 is september

i would expect febish

[amber fable]

I expect around this

[pallid kindle]

?

[marble grove]

That's .56

[thin fox]

oh

[marble grove]

September is .56

[thin fox]

you know what i mean

[random needle]

I'm expecting... a release date to be announced at some point during one of the fanfests

[pallid kindle]

why would that matter

[marble grove]

.55 is July

[thin fox]

you know what i mean

part 2 msq

[amber fable]

Nov dec...only 2 months?

[marble grove]

They "delayed" part 2 for a reason

[amber fable]

I mean if you wanna believe it

[pallid kindle]

when did they say part 2 was delayed

[amber fable]

They broke msq in 2 parts

[pallid kindle]

nov/dec is on schedule with the release cycle

[amber fable]

Cuz its "big"

[pallid kindle]

they've always done this

[alpine plover]

is this the first ulti with 3rd tier savage gear?

[marble grove]

It's been too long since the last .5 my brain is malfunctioning

[amber fable]

Yea

[thin fox]

yes

[alpine plover]

gonna be interesting

because

relic is an actual consideration

[amber fable]

8.0 3rd tier will be bis

For sync

[thin fox]

uwu and top were both .31

[pallid kindle]

?

[amber fable]

Relic is bis

[alpine plover]

or is relic ilvl too high at max

[amber fable]

Same as savage wep

[thin fox]

relic wont be until .55 so

[amber fable]

Max substats

[thin fox]

ppl will be done progging

by then

[pallid kindle]

they're not gonna consider a weapon that isnt released

[alpine plover]

yes you will

[pallid kindle]

we're getting ult WAY before

[amber fable]

Till relic ult wep will be bis

[alpine plover]

yea

[amber fable]

Prog bis will be savage

[alpine plover]

but there's a very easy way to get the later-to-be-bis weapon for the ulti

and not doing m12s

or m11s

[pallid kindle]

you have to do m12s

[alpine plover]

well

[pallid kindle]

you cant enter the duty without doing it

[alpine plover]

farming

[amber fable]

Gotta clear m12 once

[alpine plover]

yea

[pallid kindle]

why is the relic part of the discussion

[random needle]

I need to get back on the m12 prog train

[pallid kindle]

its not released

[amber fable]

I got to slaugthershed

Or was it curtain calls?

And stopped

[alpine plover]

because it will release and unlike the previous times when any ulti happened, relic will have a time period when it will still be bis

[thin fox]

people will use the relic when it comes out. thats not a surprise. thats true even for old final steps. its just that now people will be using slightly sooner.

[pallid kindle]

Ok?

[thin fox]

for a lot of people doing the ulti on patch it wont matter

because theyll be done before the relic is even out

[alpine plover]

but for other people who want to gear a lot of alt jobs

[amber fable]

Week 1 clear

[alpine plover]

it matters

because you dont need to do m12s tens of times

[thin fox]

weapon is not the bottleneck for alt jobs lol

its twines/shines

and tomes

[alpine plover]

those also get unlocked

[pallid kindle]

are we sure about that?

[alpine plover]

yes?

[thin fox]

the tier will not be unlocked until .58 or something

[marble grove]

YoshiP mentioned that we wouldn't have to wait long after JP Fanfest. Which makes the December release date possible.
But tbh, January could also look likely.
March is out of the cards tbh.
(Tho apparently YoshiP has mentioned Nov/Dec releases are off the table after EW so, January it is.)

[alpine plover]

we will get twines and glazes after a while

with AR coins and hunt marks

yes not immediately

[amber fable]

7.5 will have it on hunt

[alpine plover]

ok immediately then

[amber fable]

wep aug is irrelevant anyway

[thin fox]

idk what the point is

yes eventually more gear will become available

[amber fable]

By that time relic will drop

[thin fox]

not unique to the tier?

[pallid kindle]

if its ANY time after january they really need to figure their stuff out

[alpine plover]

idk for me it's pretty important

to not farm m12s a bajillion times

[pallid kindle]

they cannot keep pushing the releases further and further

[alpine plover]

if i want to play more jobs in the ulti

[amber fable]

Wep aug also comes later

Not 7.5

Going by ew

[pallid kindle]

relic is not released by ult

[thin fox]

i mean whenever they unlock the tier you can just farm m12 and itll be faster than doing the relic lol

[pallid kindle]

and the uncapped stuff comes out after the relic (likely)

[alpine plover]

you're all just

haters

[pallid kindle]

you're just

strange

[alpine plover]

you don't see the bigger picture

less farm

[pallid kindle]

okay but it doesnt matter when it releases

[marble grove]

Apparently countdown is 24 days this time around.
So if it's January the countdown will start around late December.
I saw people claiming Summer 2027 that's just... Dumb lol

[pallid kindle]

it'll matter after it releases

[alpine plover]

yea it doesn't matter on release

[pallid kindle]

and then

Who Cares?

[alpine plover]

i care

[thin fox]

i'm just saying that what you're saying is true for every ultimate ever

[amber fable]

I am just going by what se did in past is all

[thin fox]

if you waited long enough on TOP you could get gear easier

[alpine plover]

i'm not week 1-ing the ulti

[amber fable]

they dont change schedule much

[pallid kindle]

summer 2027 would be a 3 year wait in between DT-8.0

[finite plank]

you can take your time to clear ult after relic either way, or go ahead and attempt.... to clear ult in a month

[alpine plover]

but i will clear it this expac

[thin fox]

if you wait even longer you can just do the ulti in 8.0 and use sync gear

[pallid kindle]

if its 3 year waits the game will actually die

(lying)

but 3 years is RIDICULOUS

[alpine plover]

the previous times, the relic was not bis until 3rd tier

but the ultis were not on 3rd tier gear

[marble grove]

Endwalker was delayed a few times and it was COVID season so that made sense-ish

[pallid kindle]

the relic wasnt bis at all until the final step

[alpine plover]

yes

[pallid kindle]

so this isnt new

[alpine plover]

no

[pallid kindle]

you're kinda like trying to make this act new

when it isnt

[alpine plover]

it is

[pallid kindle]

theres nothing new about anythingn

[alpine plover]

because it will still be "on tier"

the relic being bis and the current gear

[pallid kindle]

the gear system is the same as it was before ultimates came out

i dont know what the point is

[amber fable]

Its just final tier ult thing is all

[marble grove]

JP Fanfest is in November, media tour after we arrive in December, countdown starts and bam, January (Feb the latest).
Plus that gives people time to Enjoy GTA6

[amber fable]

Nothing deep

[alpine plover]

i mean i said it already 3 times

you didn't read

you never considered relic on the same tier as the ulti before but now you will be able to consider it , yes much later

but still during the tier

will it be a massive upgrade or gamechanger? no

but i welcome not having to farm m12s a million times to play alt jobs in the ulti properly (Since by the time i minmax that thing, i will have the relic available)

[finite plank]

i'd still be farming relic for lvling bis

[random needle]

Does PF still do snake prio for rep 1 or did Hector convince them to swap to clone relative

[loud nymph]

sadly a lot of PF is still doing DN re p 1 for literally no fuckin reason

CR PFs exist but they are much less common

[remote gate]

is insane air/snaking the meme mechanic that bars a lot of pfs for 10 prog as well as 10 reclears

dont get me wrong I love the fight its a massive step up from 9s but holy shit if progging it is this rough in not looking forward to eventually reclearing it

[finite plank]

if you mean the mech after arena split, possibly

it is also possible for pf to kill during it

[fierce matrix]

Normally it just tends to be stupid memes in every mech

Its not one or the other I feel

Now in 11, its always fucking arena split

Every single day

[random needle]

Yeah, m10 feels like it's possible to clown it in basically every mechanic except maybe IA1

But snaking memes? Yeah. Bubble memes? Yeah. Arena split memes? Yeah. IA2 memes? Yeah. Alley Oop Combo memes? It's more likely than you think.

[remote gate]

there was a reaper that got deleted by alley oop every time and its like

dog did you forget the other protein mechanics that happened in m9s

its the same damn concept stand still and then move left or right if its alley oop or stand completely still if its reversed

[loud nymph]

snaking was the pf wall for a while despite it actually being pretty easy

[random needle]

Learning how to do 2 different things is apparently very tough

[wicked delta]

Idk I see more wipes on ecliptic these days than arena split

[loud nymph]

I don't remember seeing a lot of memes on insane air or insane air 2 but

snaking and arena split are another story

[remote gate]

getting deleted by pvp in snaking

that same reaper I mentioned also stacked on me when we had blue debuff and its like

buddy get the fuck away from me

[fierce matrix]

They can barely do one thing

[devout wraith]

Is the new relic step going to drop on day 1 of the patch?

[random needle]

Almost absolutely not

It'd be cool if it did, but probably not

[loud nymph]

It's probably still a ways away

[remote gate]

lets do this together bro

[finite plank]

from it a distance, it looked like they were made out of blunts

[random needle]

What does the Arcadion nightmare blunt rotation look like

[finite plank]

smoke and brute bomber

[random needle]

T-minus 26 hours and 22 minutes to keynote?

[remote gate]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-kefka-booty-gif-15779656

[thin fox]

Clock Spots Apr 23, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 4:22
🔀 15 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-23

neat

[random needle]

Clock Spots Apr 23, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 2:48
🔀 7 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-23

Is 7 swaps maximally optimal

[thin fox]

i wasted swaps cuz i forgot which tether is which and i didn't see the hover to tell me

[random needle]

Understandable

What are the odds that the ultimate puzzles this weekend both have "X is lying" clues again

I'm glad this has been going for less than a week because if there was a months-long archive, I would be nerd sniped for the next several days

[loud nymph]

Oh this is neat

Clock Spots Apr 23, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 2:40
🔀 17 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-23

[random needle]

You can do the archived puzzles from the top right corner too btw

[sinful brook]

its kinda fun

im tupid though so i just

spam swaps

[jolly flume]

I might have brain damage

ngl

can't figure out how to make the last add take damage

[rapid whale]

swap rdm

[sinful brook]

Clock Spots Apr 23, 2026 (Savage) [Easy Mode]
⏱️ 2:01
🔀 9 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-23

[loud nymph]

The one I can't figure out is the extreme in the archive with the limit cut

Though I haven't tried either of the "ultimate" ones

[jolly flume]

nvm

Clock Spots Apr 23, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 4:11
🔀 7 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-23

I didn't see the fkn

tether on the black mage

[eager jackal]

Clock Spots Apr 23, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 1:40
🔀 7 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-23

Pretty fun

[jolly flume]

why the fuck is lindwurm casting wings dark and light

[visual geyser]

I’m too stupid to even do this

[jolly flume]

actually nvm that might be larboard starboard

[visual geyser]

Hector help

Am I supposed to recognize what the mechanic is? 😭

[jolly flume]

biggest lie ever told in FF

[loud nymph]

It's not a real mechanic no

[jolly flume]

we limitless synergy these

[loud nymph]

It's just a logic puzzle

do what the things say

[visual geyser]

Oh yea I’m too stupid for it

[loud nymph]

"the player 2 counterclockwise from me has an aoe dot" look at the jobs in the group, find the one(s) with the aoe dot

Figure out how to make all of them fit

[jolly flume]

there's two clues

that if you put them together

essentially solves the entire puzzle

[loud nymph]

The ultimate ones include "one of the players is lying" and that is too hard for my monkey brain

[eager jackal]

Thankfully the 2 have a blatently obvious contradiction

[loud nymph]

for one of them yeah

for the other, idk

[eager jackal]

"I'm from DT" and "Player in this spot has a pet"

[loud nymph]

Oh, I was going for "one of the towers is soaked by a book user" and "no casters are soaking towers"

[eager jackal]

The other one is "one tower is taken by a book job" and "no towers may be taken by a caster"

[loud nymph]

yea

I didn't look very hard at the other ultimate but I tried the hello world one and couldn't figure out more than 2 or 3

[dusk sky]

I was like “…is this counting living shadow and liturgy as pets”

[eager jackal]

It counts LS as a pet lol

[loud nymph]

it does

[eager jackal]

You can tap on the clue to see what jobs it counts as fulfilling the criteria

[jolly flume]

lots of things are pets

[dusk sky]

My favorite 14 pet

Pats Earthly Star

[jolly flume]

I have a pet earthly star

yessir

he kinda explodes every 20 seconds it's a problem

might need some sedatives

[loud nymph]

it'll also show a green circle for the jobs that the puzzle has that fulfill that criteria

[eager jackal]

The single target raidbuff got me ngl

[jolly flume]

what like

dance partner?

or do they mean debuffs

[eager jackal]

How is it a raid buff if it only applies to 1 player

[jolly flume]

bro I miss dragonsight

BRING MY BOY BACK

[eager jackal]

:(

[loud nymph]

Yeah for single target raid buff they only count dancer (Devilment) or AST (cards)

[eager jackal]

Gunbreaker being a sword fucked me

[dusk sky]

“I dual wield,” confidently puts PLD

[eager jackal]

Bro does NOT use shield bash

[jolly flume]

passage of arms uses the shield...

[dusk sky]

It’s the only DoW/M with a real offhand

[jolly flume]

you know

it would be infinitely funnier if the dual wielding jobs had to get a weapon for each hand

have fun with your 16 books

[dusk sky]

Still need to know if BST has a real shield or just an accessory to its axes

It’s probably one piece with the axes

[eager jackal]

The normal was funny

[loud nymph]

ah, there we go, I got the hello world ultimate one

That was neat

[eager jackal]

I love these types of puzzle games

[loud nymph]

yeah me too, they scratch just the right kind of itch in my brain

[eager jackal]

Finished them all and I want more

[loud nymph]

even though I'm often stupid and brute force them

Like with return of the obra dinn

[jolly flume]

Clock Spots Apr 18, 2026 (Ultimate)
⏱️ 2:59
🔀 8 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-18

this one was kinda easy ngl

very obvious contradiction

the day right after is like way harder

[timber stratus]

i turbo fail at all of them because im fucking stupid

i can only do puzzles if im in the game xd

[jolly flume]

I play stupid job for stupid people because I am stupid people

[iron dagger]

Hello, found a lot of guides on youtube for FRU. What would be standard pf raidplan/ytb guide please specifically for EU pf ?

[jolly flume]

idk I'm not EU but tessan does EU strats usually

[tulip wraith]

oh i did all the clock spots yesterday

time for todays yayyy

[vast jacinth]

Tessan and lpdu server has the strats. And there are sims for it too

[iron dagger]

Tessan ?

[loud nymph]

a friend of mine who's just starting FRU had their first experience with W.K. recently haha

They seemed shocked when I said "yeah, blacklisting that person is just good advice for anyone"

[iron dagger]

Found it a ytb channel ok thanks

[true beacon]

Elaborate

[loud nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263264980481081407/1496562076678750218/HGg5JIoWkAAUnDy.png

also apparently crashing out in Limsa due to them posting a second pf

[wicked delta]

USE Plenary Indulgence or we wipe now!

[loud nymph]

They seem very mentally stable

I don't pf ultimate so I haven't encountered this firsthand

[remote gate]

coolmint plays with watashia for content

[loud nymph]

But even I know the name

[wicked delta]

you dont even need to do ults

[remote gate]

kinger you should enter the uwu pipeline and play with uwu aether pf

[jolly flume]

pol pot and hitler

[wicked delta]

this guy will go to limsa just to crash out about party finder in shout chat

[jolly flume]

amazing

[remote gate]

i remember coolmint saying in vc that he gets a kick out of watching watashia fuck things up and then complain about it

[loud nymph]

I play on jenova but I don't spend time in Limsa

[worn bluff]

i would say that i hope they find help but then it would be less entertaining if they do

[torn mesa]

Jenova players

[tulip wraith]

Clock Spots Apr 23, 2026 (Savage)
⏱️ 3:04
🔀 23 swaps
https://clock-spots.com/?date=2026-04-23
i swap too much i just like moving them

[torn mesa]

can't make this up

[random needle]

Use your mitigation in

In m11s or get out of my PF

[jolly flume]

[torn mesa]

☝️

[remote gate]

aoe standingway:

[loud nymph]

Imagine playing on Jenova

[remote gate]

aoe is my goat

[worn bluff]

PLD WINGS WEAPONS 2

[jolly flume]

🗣️ WHITE MAGES

[random needle]

Starting to realize that this is basically my relationship with raiding

[thin fox]

[iron dagger]

I read a bit how lowering ilvl works in ultimate but so that means that whatever your gear outside of corresponding bis lvl, whether you yave ilvl 770, 785 or 790, your gear is perfectly fine for any sync ultimate right ? Not upcoming one ofc

[jolly flume]

it's a little more complex than that for true bis but essentially yes

!faq ultisync

[storm frost]

Syncing Gear For Ultimates

Sufficiently high item-level gear can cap both substats when synced down. Similarly, relics with customizable stats can have substats allocated so that fewer substats are lost to the sync (see !faq ilvlsync for more info on how gear syncing works). At the bottom of this FAQ is a table of required item level to cap both stats (used for most gear slots), along with the stat caps for weapons (relevant for relic stat allocation) and the minimum potion grade needed to cap (where applicable).

https://xivgear.app supports item level sync. You can choose the character and item levels when creating a sheet. You can also use the classic calculator https://bit.ly/XIVGearSyncCalc.

[wicked delta]

hopium

[rapid whale]

[wicked delta]

[rapid whale]

[loud nymph]

[dull drum]

WHITE MAGE???

https://tenor.com/view/ken-kaneki-tokyo-ghoul-vomit-burger-food-gif-17905994

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/morgana-fire-gif-17715710

im sick of this dude

[loud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-tyrant-ffxiv-the-tyrant-cactuar-gif-1362467952614811666

[random needle]

Who keeps dying in arena split

[trim frost]

meeeee

[boreal pumice]

[wicked delta]

this will be the one right

[sinful brook]

surely

[rapid whale]

you gotta clear this so you can prog the wurm

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

[remote gate]

i want to fight the wurm

i want to hear "never had a choice never had an off switch" with the fight crushing my soul

[lament tusk]

finally 770 il now training for m9s

[remote gate]

good luck friend what role are you going in as

[wicked delta]

chat its bleak

[mossy eagle]

Week 16 of savage PF be like

[random needle]

Do we need to c41 Toby

[wicked delta]

this is reclears oomfie

ill try again tmr

[timber stratus]

u smell

[wicked delta]

like roses and whimsey thank you for noticing

[timber stratus]

schnnnnnnrrrrrffff

[wicked delta]

ok

[timber stratus]

like cheese doodles and strawberry jam

[whole estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-smells-good-gif-10458554

[jolly flume]

is oce even real bro

[proper cave]

It’s like 7am over there no?

[zealous meteor]

it's 8:53am in sydney

on a friday

[proper cave]

Close enough lol

[zealous meteor]

why are you arabic now

[jolly flume]

ask sarah bruh

I am not responsible for the contents of my name

[wicked delta]

I love beast bucks

[visual geyser]

Noooooo

[rapid whale]

nice

[round burrow]

Ah yes I love being beated the shit out of by a miniture ram

[random needle]

Man I just wanna prog again

[rain geode]

I want to want to prog

If that makes sense

[dull drum]

so does fanfest apparently

its day 0 and the mech line was just horrendous BO from what ive been told

[visual geyser]

What you expect

[boreal pumice]

happens near every gamer con hell some game spaces do ave signs saying if you are stinky your getting throwen out

[random needle]

In fairness, wasn't there a massive line outside in the sun to register

[random needle]

Yeah

[boreal pumice]

never hurts to carry some pit spray with ya in a bag

[dusk sky]

The weather in Anaheim is actually pretty nice this weekend, esp for CA this time of year

But yeah con things and costumes

[boreal pumice]

the ppl in a calyx suit is gonna be sweating one out

[random needle]

Pour one out for any Wuk Lamat cosplayers... and maybe say a prayer for their safety

[boreal pumice]

eh i woulnt worry to much

[rain geode]

Lmao

[thin fox]

how long until keynote

[proper cave]

<t:1777050000:f>

[jolly flume]

off patch sphene WOOOO

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-xiv-ffxiv-sphene-basketball-meme-gif-2559671794994838969

[clear plume]

r u sure you dont wanna regen healer some door copium?

thoughts?

[dull drum]

weathers been pt chill lately

think theres a spot of rain sat or sunday though

[jolly flume]

off patch sphene farms, everyone

[boreal pumice]

did you make it to the bridges?

oh wait the hp

[random needle]

Okay I feel p good about m12sp1, which means... I have to study p2

[rapid whale]

back to the sim mines with ye

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/gulp-gif-10195890597832595454

It's only Idyllic that has the sim, yeah? I have to rawdog rep1 and rep2?

and blood mana but who cares

[jolly flume]

yippee

3 kills lol

abt 8 total

[random needle]

I have so much farming to do lmao

[somber forge]

I just need Doomtrain wings. Tried to farm tonight and wow PF is rough. Numerous wipes in farm parties. Both groups I joined disbanded.

[boreal pumice]

do they try brain ded strat or just regular

[jolly flume]

everyone in legacy ex farms rn

is not good

:)

[somber forge]

Cheese Strat. But that went fine. Wipes were multiple times during intermission, tanks not invulning 2nd tower, twister spreads on car 5 being put in all the safe spots. One time both healers died to end of intermission train crash raidwide.

[amber fable]

No reason not to braindead

Shit dont hurt if you can press mits

Extreme farms are always super trash once it gets 1 major or more patch older

[boreal pumice]

think i stopped at 66 totems

[amber fable]

Its like all crayon eaters come at once

I can afk 2 min and still not parse 0 lmao

[kindred moss]

I pray and hope that the VR glasses I got work for this game

[amber fable]

Bar is that low

[kindred moss]

Current situation with my PC until Saturday 😩

[somber forge]

I have 120 totems. But I don’t want to wait months to buy final wings.

[kindred moss]

Why so long?

[somber forge]

Aren’t Doomtrain wings not buyable for awhile? Necron should be next week.

[trim frost]

iirc last two ex mount pity purchase only comes out in like .55

[kindred moss]

Oh you’re going for those wings!

[proper cave]

7.3 ex will be with 7.5. 7.4 ex will be 7.55. 7.5 ex will be 7.58-ish.

[jolly flume]

what even is the ex next patch I already forgot

[proper cave]

Enuo

Spoopy voidperson

[somber forge]

Yeah I don’t want to wait until 7.55 to buy final wings so stuck wiping to Doomtrain more!

[woven halo]

Q: (ik this is a pretty biased question, but) is average PF really that bad?

(Context: I’m currently getting into extreme trials, but my current expectations is everyone is competent enough to prog into clearing EX trials in one group)

[boreal pumice]

we say this for all end game content your in a group with 7 clowns but there is a secretly another clown

[amber fable]

Pf goes in a cycle

Major patch a lot players resub

[somber forge]

I usually don’t have this bad of luck with Doomtrain. Tonight was unusually bad for farm parties.

[amber fable]

Once it gets old they sub out

So its not a consistent thing

Pf is rng end of the day

[rigid dust]

Hey that party looks famil-

https://giphy.com/gifs/angry-cat-mean-29czd4FQNdnkJZ1npy

[jolly flume]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGIXqEMaIAAiDQR.webp

[rigid dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-sad-yakuza0-dame-baka-gif-23481794

[jolly flume]

for what it's worth, I would say the answer is yes, but there are a lot of people who complain about it while also not really being better than it

and bad is also

kinda relative to your expectations

if you're straight up fresh to raiding

I don't think you're going to find it that bad, not least because you will also be That Bad to begin with

[boreal pumice]

people will always complain about the bad pfs but when they get a good one they say nothing because they are just doing the fight /farm and have nothing to comment on outside your rolls

[worn bluff]

i would also say PF is more often a bad experience because it’s less fun for me to sit through all of the wipes with 7 strangers as compared to with friends

even going with 1 or 2 friends makes the experience exponentially better because at least we can vent to each other

[amber fable]

Usually extremes when they are fresh released arent so bad

Usually...

[vivid sluice]

I had more luck on pf than with any static I joined. At least you’re not stuck with the same 7 people

[worn bluff]

i mean if your static is worse than PF on average you should leave asap

unless it’s friends

[clear plume]

the worst attitude you can have getting into something like pf as a new player/raider is that everybody else will be bad, because thats how you end up blaming other people and ignoring your own mistakes

if you are making mistakes in over 10% of pulls, you are below the average needed for clean runs to happen yourself and all that

[dull drum]

mb

[clear plume]

and new players/casual raiders definitely are not 90% consistent on average

[vivid sluice]

It’s hard to leave people. Idk about friends but i don’t wanna hurt their feelings

but I’m also really tired of progging a fight I beat and I already beat the next fight

[dusk sky]

Gotta have the lack of confidence to enter thinking you’re probably the weakest link, it’ll dissolve halfway through the first pull but still

[amber fable]

Then leave

If your group is not upto your expectations

It will only breed resentment

[dusk sky]

Yeah that happened with my Asphodelos static… P3S adds and the team was from my RP FC

[amber fable]

Group goals should align

End of the day

Having fun is well and good but if we aint clearing then

Gg

It wont work

[vivid sluice]

I know people say m11 is the static killer but I am so tired of the brothers

[amber fable]

M10 took me more pulls

Than m11

[vivid sluice]

Me too

[amber fable]

I wont deny that it was my own self fucking up

Especially in latter half of fight

[dusk sky]

Our 10/11 reclears are still dreadful, but at least gear carries bodies over the finish in 10 much more consistently

[amber fable]

M10 is very lenient

Check wise

[vivid sluice]

It’s impossible if the fire baits are messed up but that’s what happens when you make the water side do fire

[dusk sky]

Tbf, the nature of Snaking you simply have to learn both patterns

[amber fable]

Yes

You have to know both

Dont matter if you get one debuff 9/10 times

[vivid sluice]

I prefer the fire side lol

[amber fable]

I feel same for both

[dusk sky]

As H1 my dread is entirely in the first proteans if I’m water but everything else is chill

[amber fable]

You can monkasteer a lot in m10

[dusk sky]

Checking it didn’t cleave into the fires each time no matter what

But like people probably learn it’s safe to move through fresh fires for a tick before they become active

[vivid sluice]

Yeah I cast in it sometimes

[amber fable]

They dont immediately tick

But the bleed last for 15 sec once it do

[vivid sluice]

Sometimes I pay for my greed oops

[dusk sky]

Specifically I mean the ranged fires can step through the melee puddles towards middle, in case the healer water goes wide or something

[vivid sluice]

I do that

[dusk sky]

[dusk sky]

More importantly,

HD Halmarut

[whole estuary]

From now on all villains we kill should be turned into labubus stripped of all ambition

[dusk sky]

Teaser’s gonna be Halmarut streaming and Lil’ Calyx is just her chat TTS

[worn bluff]

halmarut will be turned into labubu too

[dusk sky]

https://tenor.com/view/yelling-silly-lizard-roar-gif-835253383905903718

Someone should make a lizard button but it’s Halmarut and it goes “Wither”

[odd beacon]

The use of all items can now be queued for execution.

is this pot queueing

oh wait food

[lyric summit]

it has like a 3s animation lock anyway

i think its pots?

[proper cave]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/33c47e6b7aa6fe0750ebb167841e35bea26ceb7e

[odd beacon]

pots was already queueable last patch iirc

[dusk sky]

Balanced party option….

[trim frost]

big

that’s nice i guess

[sleek moon]

wait that CoD change is just to allow you to disable ilvl sync?

that feels like bare minimum effort vs easing on the hard wipes

[rapid whale]

I think the best change is the balanced party button for making pf

[lyric summit]

it locks 2melee though lmfao

[amber fable]

Guaranteed cod drops at min ilvl

[alpine plover]

might mean p2 is easier now and p3 is skippable altogether

[amber fable]

And unsync

So fresh 23 unsync

Get coins

[alpine plover]

it kind of all comes down to whether you can survive empty towers

[amber fable]

Rinse repeat

Prices will drop eventually

Since it wont be as pita

[alpine plover]

expecting that

yea

but going in blind due to now being unsyncable is gonna be griefing prolly

i can't really see it being omega easy until 8.0 personally

[amber fable]

You can monkey pull till towers

[alpine plover]

nah pairs, traffic accidents, misplaced seeds

all of these are points of failure if you have absolutely no idea

but we shall see

[lyric summit]

need to make my bingo

[dapper zealot]

It sounds nice but like, is anyone actually going to go out of their way to do current ex just for WT?

[visual geyser]

What a patch wtf

There is so many good QOL

[jade nimbus]

Ngl

I wonder if the milvl change is something they'll add to everything going forward

[visual geyser]

They actually adjusted the fate scaling

[trim frost]

koji mentioned

[jade nimbus]

Ye this pretty much kills chaotic after a short vitality boost where people farm everything they want

[visual geyser]

Idk man it’s not really different then nerfing EX trial drop rates

[dapper zealot]

Hell yeah

[visual geyser]

Shit is 2 years old

[amber fable]

I mean it was already dead

[jade nimbus]

Oh, ye, it is pretty much kicking a corpse anyway

[amber fable]

If anything you arent stuck to farming with pain

Also min ilvl gives all rewards

Guranteed

[jade nimbus]

Yeye, the struggle will be finding groups for it in the far future

[visual geyser]

Not really

[jade nimbus]

I guess people will still maybe do it to sell the hairstyle

[visual geyser]

Wasn’t even that dead

Literally did it last patch with no problems

Outside of people sucking balls at the fight of course

[jade nimbus]

But also I don't trust the avarage player to do milvl, so shouldn't be as much of an issue

We'll see

[trim frost]

hmm

[amber fable]

It aint a hard fight anyway

[trim frost]

i'm thinking it'll probably be good for the actual competent players to not have to suffer any longer than they need to

in theory

[jade nimbus]

Like, I think discord groups will still be a thing

[visual geyser]

I’ll have to get my a half times two

Finally

[amber fable]

Pug will unsync

[jade nimbus]

But there will be less of them past a certain point

[visual geyser]

And my mount

[amber fable]

Discord peeps will do minilvl

[jade nimbus]

Also ye, you can just unsyc when 8.0 comes around

[amber fable]

And some unsync

[jade nimbus]

I'll probably unsync it in 8.0 to get the hair, ye

I don't care about anything else tbh

[visual geyser]

I also want that faux hollows mount

That looks sick

[valid solar]

this is neat

saves you like 10 seconds of time

[rapid whale]

It's a lot of clicks saved even if it isn't a lot of time tho

[amber fable]

Well its nothing different beside locking one healer role to barrier

One player per job was mostly same

[dusk sky]

Filtering on AST would show a lot of PFs that already had a WHM

[marble grove]

holy shit

This is doom posting TO the extreme

god damn

[visual geyser]

lol it’s a shitty article

Making that article a few days before fanfest is hillarious but gaming journalism is mostly slop

[amber fable]

Gpt wouldn't have wrote this slop

[rapid whale]

DPS?

[dapper zealot]

.@grok write a google doccy about avx

[amber fable]

True

You could have 3x range

[rapid whale]

tell me you dont raid /s

[dapper zealot]

yeah obviously you go with all ranged

[terse zodiac]

Double melee lock gonna be a thing by default now

[dapper zealot]

who am I going to force to fake melee now?

[visual geyser]

Is this not the case already lol

[dapper zealot]

but now you get to do it with 1 button saving a whopping 10 seconds

[visual geyser]

Pretty good

[dawn urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-gif-440803556678971935

The article

[amber fable]

This tier you could 3x range

And clear

Rdm pct/blm combo is good

[dawn urchin]

Destiny 2 got it worse

I heard fortnite is also losing players

Makes sense because of the vbuck changes

[marble grove]

Fornite is losing players and Epic is bleeding money

Destiny 2 is dying and Bungie moved devs to Marathon who's also on it's last legs

[lyric summit]

ok made my bingo

[dawn urchin]

Why does summoner and scholar need spliting up?

[lyric summit]

i ran out of ideas

[random needle]

Estinien being a new job feels extremely unlikely unless it also uses spears

[visual geyser]

Estinen being a tank doesn’t sit well with me

Also being the azure dragoon and all still

[visual geyser]

Game at 10k after 2 months

Fries bro

[wicked delta]

Estinien being chosen for the new job is cope like he literally is John Heavensward

If they actually do that shit I would be genuinely surprised

[marble grove]

10 k for an extraction shooter is that bad?

[boreal pumice]

a drg main stuck as drg classic

[remote gate]

i hope we get a reaper rework with zero and golbez being part of the team

make golbez the new job

[marble grove]

Dragon Rider?

[wicked delta]

Zero isnt a reaper anymore though

Lmao?

[marble grove]

Pld

[boreal pumice]

wish granted deaths design is now after every attack

[remote gate]

doesnt mean she cannot go back to being one for trusts

[lyric summit]

dragon knight or smth

[wicked delta]

It would defeat the whole FF4 reference for her

I doubt she will

[remote gate]

😔

[lost sinew]

Hoary Boulder will now be plot-relevant and have the 8.0 tank job

[lyric summit]

maybe in meracydia expansion

[boreal pumice]

i mean in dissida at least cecil could swap back and forth between drk and pld

[remote gate]

i forgot about zero becoming a pld ngl

[wicked delta]

Yeah but they dgaf about Zero like that

So

[boreal pumice]

[random needle]

She lost her hat 😭

[wicked delta]

The only person that swaps jobs actively is like

G’raha

[boreal pumice]

venat

[wicked delta]

Shes dead

And an ancient

[valid solar]

I was actually surprised to see zero and golbez in the trailer because I honestly assumed theyd never show in the story again

[wicked delta]

Doesn’t count to me

[boreal pumice]

[lost sinew]

I didn't even know she was sick...

[wicked delta]

Oh sure she was sick

[random needle]

Technically Y'shtola can do both healer and DPS, no? Though I guess that's similar to Alphinaud sometimes going DPS Sage

[wicked delta]

[wicked delta]

Yeah I don’t think it necessarily counts either

Shes basically a black mage now

If she did it between msq these days id be like yea fair

But that means

[random needle]

I guess for Y'shtola, it's because she used to be a CNJ then slowly transitioned through HW and ShB

[visual geyser]

10k for bungie is bad

[wicked delta]

Two ppl who switch whm/blm lmfao

SE cannot expand their minds beyond that

[visual geyser]

I like the new outfit but it’s still a massive downgrade

[marble grove]

even after the whole BS with the past expansions?

[random needle]

I'm telling you, it's the hat 😭

[visual geyser]

I mean marathon was in dev for how long?

A while

[marble grove]

5 years?

[visual geyser]

Yea that ain’t great

[remote gate]

also was the new expansion trailer shown already?

[wicked delta]

No

[visual geyser]

1pm est

[wicked delta]

Soon tho

[visual geyser]

We wouldn’t be talking about destiny if it was

[marble grove]

it's in...

5hours

[visual geyser]

Lmfao

[boreal pumice]

go back to bed shiggy

[marble grove]

I can ping you (with) the link once it's out if you want

[random needle]

Hopefully I can get away with watching the keynote at work

[visual geyser]

Class is online today (I was gonna skip it anyway)

[valid solar]

its like 10:30 PM for me so im not sure if ill stay up for the whole thing

when is .5 dropping again

[visual geyser]

Tuesday

[marble grove]

6K players in marathon atm

[visual geyser]

It’s early

But that game sucks anyways who cares

[marble grove]

it's 1pm

[valid solar]

its a bit of a shame because I hear marathon is actually pretty well made but the extraction shooter market is basically non existent

[visual geyser]

It’s 8 am in America

[marble grove]

it started with Battle Royales

[visual geyser]

Game was a flop outside of America

[marble grove]

and moved to extraction shooters

[visual geyser]

So it’s audience is basically NA only

[marble grove]

now it'll move to something else

[remote gate]

im gonna be at work at that time so if you dont mind

[marble grove]

That's the circle of life

[valid solar]

whoever decided to make marathon an extraction shooter is gonna be single handedly responsible for when sony inevitably dissolves bungie

[valid solar]

[marble grove]

I gotchu

[lost sinew]

marathon looks kinda awesome i just don't have time to commit to a second online progression game

[visual geyser]

She doesn’t even show up in the 7.5 trailer

Actually none of the DT characters do

[boreal pumice]

people want to move on from her already

[marble grove]

wrong

Calyx

and the other girl

[visual geyser]

Well yea of course

[dapper zealot]

Halmarut

[marble grove]

still part of the DT crew

🤓

[boreal pumice]

shale

[visual geyser]

Does shale show up?

[marble grove]

ye

in the Screenshots

[visual geyser]

In the trailer

[marble grove]

uhh, think so

[random needle]

Is Emet-Selch a ShB character or a SB character

[marble grove]

lemme double check

both

[wicked delta]

Feels weird to have this character in msq bc my alt is called N’shale

[marble grove]

and EW character

[wicked delta]

We twinning or… something

[marble grove]

Am I dumb or is the American trailer the same as the UK trailer but all that changes is the freaking thumbnail

[boreal pumice]

thats what i said

[boreal pumice]

i recently did get the music for this ez money