endgame-lounge

[midnight furnace]

YES

[stiff sage]

which fight

[midnight furnace]

what a hell

[stiff sage]

nice, you're free

now reclear

next week

:3

[midnight furnace]

Only next week XD

Im done with this hell lmao

Ive got a Snek to boil now

[jolly flume]

the wurm will be boiling you

[midnight furnace]

For a while true XD

Any advice?

[jolly flume]

press mit or blow up

never let the opps win

[wind cypress]

was farting around on my healer practicing on m9s and the group enraged to dps o.O? weird thought the dps check on that was kinda lax

[vestal hollow]

what the fuck is that war doing

[jolly flume]

why are two of what are presumably your dps doing damage that would've been bad in light heavyweight

I say presumably because for a role acronymed after damage per second they sure aren't doing damage

[midnight furnace]

Addle will be applied every Fixer yes

[vestal hollow]

i did not notice the dps the blm was doing

i feel ill

[midnight furnace]

Unless there is a better place for Addle on that fight

[jolly flume]

idk I remember my mch parses from 7.0 were like 25.2 ish

so they're doing 730 ilvl dmg

good stuff

[clear plume]

Chiyo

@jolly flume

One pull ez

I still got it

[midnight furnace]

Damn that Reaper was reaping

45k

[clear plume]

He’s 1.5k cdps above second place on all jobs yeah

[dapper zealot]

reaper, awwwww man

[midnight furnace]

I like Rpr yeah

[clear plume]

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings/73?metric=dps&boss=105

All jobs

[midnight furnace]

Big weapon, can be reasonably fast when it counts so it makes it nice for me

[clear plume]

R1 overall on all job on rdps and adps

[midnight furnace]

Only issue id have with it is that Harvest Moon aint the best ranged option yeah

(Its mad cool though)

[alpine plover]

3rd best in cdps is a summoner

Summoner best caster confirmed

[midnight furnace]

I mean i beat M11S as a SMN so im not complaining XD

Its also the better one for me on Controller as a PS5 player

[alpine plover]

@wicked delta what's your opinion on summoners?

[midnight furnace]

(Also discovered i suck as a PCT but im a pretty good RDM)

[wicked delta]

Not real people

[uncut pebble]

the log of that without looking at p1 is cursed

bc of the gauge transfer

i didnt even think you could do that honestly

[dawn urchin]

😔

[rapid whale]

resource run is standard for high rank

[flint nymph]

aw i miss him too 😌

[worn bluff]

evasion tank unlocked

[uncut pebble]

i meant that in the way of ive never seen a log for p2 like that usually

[tepid briar]

okay I think that's the highest my funny number is going up

[thin tartan]

how high

[tepid briar]

43 😔

I'm only IL771

[thin tartan]

u can go higher bub

ur fine

[tepid briar]

idt I'm feasibly getting any higher

I'm already at 96% uptime

and I'm playing whm

idk what the meta parse comp is either so whatever

[alpine plover]

get more gear

[daring pine]

more uptime

[tepid briar]

yeah I need gear lol

I haven't gotten any gear from m9 yet...

and I haven't cleared m10 yet

[alpine plover]

Clearge

[amber fable]

Parse is irrelevant till you get bis

Till then getting all.green in xivanal should be priority

[alpine plover]

this tier is somehow so easy yet so dentge

maybe i simply got better as a player since cruiseweight

[amber fable]

Dt raid series as a whole is easier than ew

Maybe i am biased but it feels that way

[alpine plover]

hm

[tepid briar]

yeah if m9 is like this for me

I can't imagine how scuffed my m10 is gonna look

[tepid briar]

it's the "not fighting cosmic horrors" buff

[dapper zealot]

ez blue

[dapper zealot]

watch 3rd walk drop in a random savage mech :)

[tepid briar]

I'm still working on m10

just need to not forget mechanics at the worst time

[alpine plover]

m10 is kind of proffessional parsing

need to kind of syncronize cleaves with boss positioning and hold otherwise

but as whm it shouldn't matter too much?

actually maybe it does

need to hold glare 4 for when both are close, assize to cleave both

blabla

[queen raft]

That's the one where you're fighting two bosses right?

[alpine plover]

indeed

i think you also have a brief second where you can hit the water jail and both bosses? that sounds like blood lily agenda

[novel garden]

Are both the bosses even targetable at the last 15% when they dash or is it after they hit the end point of the tethers?

[cerulean crown]

after they hit the tethers

but i don't think they even have enough time to make it to the bubble before it kills everyone lol

[novel garden]

Oh true

[amber fable]

The period where boss both stack arent many

Except at tail end after ia2

[spice path]

I got blues on all fights and an average of green and now im done lol

[visual geyser]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2df1dd39c9bcb81df9ec1f782c4ca7acdee71f11

Yall

Who wants to buy me a mount

[wicked delta]

You’re not hot enough to spend 20 euros on so its a no from me

[visual geyser]

Oh wow

[wicked delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/687722023711014990/1441256202607792138/caption.gif

[visual geyser]

I thought being the bestest best of friends would be enough despite my looks 🥹

[grand mesa]

Am I?

Kidding

Chocobo is the only mount I need anyways

[wicked delta]

You are oomfie

[grand mesa]

What does this mean chat..

[rapid whale]

it's a slur

[jolly flume]

ow my knees

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/first-time-meme

[wicked delta]

You’re too young to be complaining about your knees

[grand mesa]

I'm in my mid 20s and they're starting to hurt..

[novel garden]

Wait mean to tell me Tylenol or ibuprofen isn't in you pocket?

[rain geode]

Im in my late 20s and everything hurts

[neat quarry]

wondrous tails indeed

[random needle]

I'm in the habit of keeping Tylenol and ibuprofen in my work backpack so I can always self medicate

I think I have some Tums in there too... maybe melatonin too for if I can't sleep on trips

[neat quarry]

Also yes you should always have common otc medication handy because I can assure you trying to work through a headache that popped up at 9am is a surefire way to be stuck with a full force raging aura migraine at 2pm

and drink something besides coffee and soda/monster

[wicked delta]

Im fighting for my life rn bc I ran out of my meds

[random needle]

Shake down your coworkers to see if they have any

[spice path]

Oh so they are reverting the changes thry made in like 2022 or something for gifting. Neat.

[dapper zealot]

There's Lego mods?

[grand mesa]

It's right there

[zealous meteor]

penumbra can be used in surprising ways

[dapper zealot]

Lego bnuuy

[dapper zealot]

Mod that turns you into a marketable plushie

[daring pine]

i should try this

[zealous meteor]

i'm already marketable plushie sized

[daring pine]

you're cute sam sized

[dapper zealot]

True you are small

[loud swift]

fun sized

[zealous meteor]

fun size fox

why is "fun size" small anyway

i have more fun with big things

[daring pine]

what does this mean

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-you-what-huh-gif-19676334

[rapid whale]

wat means

[vestal hollow]

[dapper zealot]

I can't sleep on my sides anymore

Otherwise my shoulders hurt

[vestal hollow]

i cant sleep on my sides because of my piercings

they get angry

[visual geyser]

Work out bro

[stray forge]

Idt most 20 year olds have knee problems

In fact idk any 30 year olds that have knee problems

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football

[stray forge]

a lot of them go raving too

[true beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/patricia-nigel-and-marmalade-patricia-wonderful-wonderful-nigel-and-marmalade-patricia-gif-6828760136235883998

[stray forge]

All night

[jolly flume]

why are you me

[rapid whale]

remember kids dont lock your knees while standing at the rave

[stray forge]

Idk I thought it was identity theft Thursday

This all started when I clicked on “kinara koteni” and it was marceline

[dapper zealot]

Exactly

[wicked delta]

We are Chiyo Shiomi

We carry the flame

[remote gate]

we are the gospel

[jolly flume]

😭

[dapper zealot]

Someone take one for the team and be french chiyo

[rapid whale]

id rather play league of legends solo ranked

[dapper zealot]

Just like chiyo

[rapid whale]

we still need to get chiyo on the rift

@clear plume

i say we make chiyo 1 trick mf until they get the game

[dapper zealot]

I feel this is violating the Geneva Convention

[jolly flume]

if enyo doesn't make it to trial tonight

I'll play l*ague

im giving the joonbob vid a once over to refresh goddamn I miss joonbob

[rapid whale]

gg

[whole estuary]

More than you think, and they always say it was from basketball

[jolly flume]

gg

[whole estuary]

20 and 30 year olds

I guess the sport just makes their joints explode

[rapid whale]

its tru

football also a knee/ankle destroyer

[jolly flume]

I played tennis and soccer as a kid

the most fucked up part of my body is easily my wrists though

my right wrist feels constantly inflamed

[rapid whale]

gg

[remote gate]

ever try a wrist wrap? ik it sounds lame but they do help

[rapid whale]

coaches didnt teach proper technique blow them up

[jolly flume]

the wrist is a recent development

for which video games are to blame you were right mom

I need to get one of those compression sleeves for my wrist though

and probably a vertical mouse

[rapid whale]

usually right wrist comes from stuff like moba or fps tho

surprised its affecting you as an mmo gamer

o right destiny

[stray forge]

Outlaw rogue + Armored Core probably did the most damage to my wrists

[deep gale]

I've had a lot of issues with chronic wrist pain and a wrist wrap helped a ton.

I also used compression gloves but those didn't help as much.

(Not raiding also helps lmao)

The other thing that helped a lot was finally getting a wrist wrest.

[proper cave]

I should take a look at standing desks

[jolly flume]

yeah it's gotten kinda wild lately, like I can bend my right wrist back very notably less far than my left and it pops if I so much as twist it the slightest bit

if I keep it up I'm actually gonna be cooked

[deep gale]

Unironically do some stretches

[worn bluff]

it's all that hardcore raiding

ff14 is the source of all of our problems

[jolly flume]

it is definitely part of why I haven't been playing as much

besides that yknow I'm just bored

[mortal flower]

Games, Infinite games, but no games

[worn bluff]

i've tried like 10 games in the last week and none of them have really stuck

[jaunty pulsar]

you need to do it synched the alexander for moogle stuff?

[proper cave]

All mogtome duties must be synced

[wind cypress]

and can't be run with npcs apparently

[proper cave]

The event is meant to fill df during off seasons after all

[jaunty pulsar]

indeed

it's a bit slow the queue, most ppl must have done it tuesday

I'm gonna try mahjong after ths

[wind cypress]

took me a few hours to solo 5 treasure dungeons on my warrior because peeps didn't want to put up party finder on my server fo rit yesterday, hardest 50 tomes - not worth it lol

[jolly flume]

hop on subnautica

[jaunty pulsar]

stuff like that are best to be done in a fc or a group of friends

[wind cypress]

fighting treasure dungeon bosses solo means I gotta put on some youtube or grab a snack mid fight, it's like cutting down a tree with a butter knife or watching paint dry but yeah friends (whats that) xD, funny thing I tried it on gunbreaker to switch things up but he folded like a lawn chair, warrior self heals = yum

[worn bluff]

thalassophobia intensifies

[jolly flume]

that's why it's fun

xdd

[worn bluff]

i think if anything i'd try no man's sky again

[wind cypress]

that's the space ocean game where you collect stuff and swim back to your base, watched a friend play it - kinda mid but not bad

[proper cave]

I’ve been playing Elden Ring with a couple FC mates recently. If we rush we might be able to finish before the end of the year

[worn bluff]

honestly the type of game i want to play the most is v rising, but i've done most of what i want to do in that game already

v rising 2 please come out soon

[jolly flume]

I don't even know what else to play

I might unironically download nier again

[wind cypress]

I like playing elden ring co-op mod but my friends won't play with me again, one got butt hurt when a boss steam rolled him so he changed his play style like 5 times throughout the play through, had to cheat in weapon upgrades fo rhim

[worn bluff]

i'm a sucker for games where people's houses are scattered around the overworld

makes it feel more alive

[grand mesa]

I'm hopelessly addicted to deadlock

[worn bluff]

my brain is too small for deadlock

i love the art style though

[grand mesa]

But maybe I'm just destined to get sucked into a moba every few years

[jaunty pulsar]

is it normal 20min queue for alexander? I forgot two days ago I had to cap my tomes, do reruns, do moogle tomes, wash my car, go running, change job all on tuesday because I'd be damned if I leave stuff for other days....

[grand mesa]

I'm all macro no mechanical skill

But it's still fun

[worn bluff]

i don't play mobas

[grand mesa]

I just play the low cortison characters

[worn bluff]

so it's overwhelming to me

[grand mesa]

Fair

Mobas are just a numbers game

[wind cypress]

I think people are running mog stuff primarily but even so it's usually dead pre lunch time

[grand mesa]

But the numbers are hard to conceptualize

[worn bluff]

the shop overwhelms me

in pvp games i'm used to very digestible kits, like limited variation to what the other people have

so it's easy to react to

[grand mesa]

The shop definitely does not help

[wind cypress]

there's always the forked tower any prog groups running during working hours people are gobbling up (48 peeps at a time)

[grand mesa]

I think

Playing street brawl first helps

Because you get introduced into stuff and have time to digest the items you pick every round

[worn bluff]

also skins when

i like stuff to grind for

[grand mesa]

When they sort everything else out

The jungle camps still have placeholder assets

[worn bluff]

i keep getting tempted to try it more

oh i guess the other thing was that i wanted to try learning one character at a time but you have to queue as multiple

so that was kind of overwhelming too

[wicked delta]

Im still hopelessly addicted to BG3

But im thinking of finally finishing off Nier and Stellar Blade soon

[jolly flume]

what is a yorhias

[wicked delta]

I got through like 50% of SB and forgot about it because Eve is boring as shit

[true beacon]

Which NieR

[jolly flume]

glory to mankind?

[wicked delta]

Ask Sarah

[wicked delta]

Automata

Ive already finished Replicant

[jolly flume]

did you drop automata doing ending b

because if so many such cases

[wicked delta]

Umm

No

But it was 9S crashing out

Thats the last thing I remember

[jolly flume]

so basically ending b

lol

[wicked delta]

Look man

Playing as 9S is sleepo

You cant blame me

[jolly flume]

yea that's why I asked

if it was ending b

because that shit is slop

same story worse character

[true beacon]

Are you not hacking?

[jolly flume]

hacking is the reason it's boring bruh

[wicked delta]

Right like lol

[jolly flume]

we cannot pretend like that minigame is fun to do 30 times an hour

[worn bluff]

A2 best

[wicked delta]

I dont like the hacking

It was cute the first 3 times

Afterwards im just

[jolly flume]

toby

what if we played coop subnautica

[wicked delta]

Are you trying to kill me

[jolly flume]

no

[wicked delta]

I am fucking terrified of subnautica

[jolly flume]

the leviathans are though

[jolly flume]

that's why you should play it

it's less scary in coop anyways

and I'm also a bitch

[dapper zealot]

Try Unrailed

[wicked delta]

You got me fucked up

[jolly flume]

smile

[dapper zealot]

The Forest is good coop too

[wicked delta]

Ts too crazy man

I screeched like a banshee during lethal company like

[jolly flume]

ok it's not lethal company man

[wicked delta]

You dont want me playing co-op anything

[jolly flume]

that game is designed to be a horror game

[flat vault]

coop the forest is hilarious

[jolly flume]

subnautica wasn't even designed to be scary

it just is

because ocean

[flat vault]

an actual non-scary funny coop game is far cry 5

that shit is so stupid it is the funniest experience i've ever had with a video game

[worn bluff]

i wish wuwa had proper co op

[dapper zealot]

Factorio coop :)

[wicked delta]

Im terrified of the ocean

😭

Im scared of a lot of things

[sly basin]

i rlly enjoyed abiotic factor coop

also if you wanna do a longterm farming deal, coral island is pretty good

[wicked delta]

I cant play BG3 with anyone cus I just get ragebaited

Last time I played Mario Party with someone we ended up throwing hands

[dapper zealot]

Tobi playing resi evil would be hilarious

[wicked delta]

My friends bought RE7 for me because they know id be screaming and crying

And now they wanna get RE9

Im finished

[flat vault]

good luck with that

re9 is not as bad as re7

its definitely more lax in the fear factor besides that one section

[wicked delta]

Idk man

Nothing scarier than a guy from Texas

Idk if bro is even from Texas

[worn bluff]

everything reminds me of him

[dapper zealot]

PvP chiyo with dynamite in unrailed

[jolly flume]

yeah I think of him every time I get that tooltip

[worn bluff]

[jolly flume]

it's oripathy time, folks

[worn bluff]

luckily i haven't wanted any of the limited banners so far

so i can save for lycia or something

[rapid whale]

man what the heck do i do today

[jolly flume]

I have 4 of the 5 limited units so far

[wicked delta]

Work out

[jolly flume]

but the resource economy is so scarce

I can't even build them

[wicked delta]

I gotta take a rest my headache is killing me

[jolly flume]

we'll go ocean diving later

[sly basin]

watch new mario movie

[jolly flume]

good night

[wicked delta]

You cant be serious

We’re playing Overcooked bruh

[jolly flume]

I'm so serious

we can get cuuby too

[wicked delta]

Im not PLAYING SUBNAUTICA

[worn bluff]

low spending? or swiped for packs

i stopped playing a couple days after launch so i'm super behind

[jolly flume]

bp monthly

I haven't swiped beryl yet

[wicked delta]

I dont even own subnautica

This dude

[worn bluff]

[wicked delta]

Im sleeping

[jolly flume]

my luck was definitely above avg though lol

[worn bluff]

i feel like endfield's UI is clean but hard to navigate at the same time?

idk wtf i'm doing in this game or what my tasks are

[jolly flume]

we can fix that

that shits like 5 bucks lol

[dapper zealot]

You're going in a submarine with an Xbox controller

[jolly flume]

the submarine has a crush depth indicator

youd have to be pretty stupid to oceangate yourself

[dapper zealot]

Space marines 2 is good coop

[uncut pebble]

[stray forge]

I have one but honestly I don't really use the standing part much. It still feels better to just get up and walk around a bit if you need breaks rather than just using your desk but while standing 💀

[worn bluff]

i only have like 40 pulls worth how do you get enough to pull 4 units

[jolly flume]

I've been slaving away at this shit every day since launch 😭

[worn bluff]

o

[jolly flume]

I started killing overworld mobs to fill out the crafting log

for like

50 oroberyl

[worn bluff]

idk i feel like wuwa is more straightforward

albeit less to do

[jolly flume]

there's a larger range of things that currency comes from in endfield

rather than just like

dailies events exploration

which means you have to do more to get the same thing

and if you do less you get less

[worn bluff]

i mean i guess that means there's more game

i haven't really liked the limited banner characters so i guess i've been less motivated to grind

rossi has a cool design but i feel meh about the others

[loud swift]

wuwa lounge

[jolly flume]

it's been one patch and I already regret pulling laevatain

[worn bluff]

this is end game lounge we're talking about endfield game

[jolly flume]

gilberta is awesome no regrets there

and I've just quit wuwa outright now lol

[worn bluff]

i don't like laevatain's puffy dress

yvonne just looks like a vtuber model

tangtang reminds me of lingyang

i'm going to get banned from the endfield channel for saying these things

[jolly flume]

the jingle beast

foul spirits begone

[worn bluff]

on the other hand the 2 upcoming wuwa units don't look that cool to me either

wuwa design peaked with phrolova

[jolly flume]

true

[stray forge]

I haven’t pulled in wuwa since Augusta I think

Actually I haven’t done dailies lately either

🥀

[jolly flume]

it's been a month since I even opened the game

idk it just doesn't feel fun to me anymore

[worn bluff]

the story is cinema but there's not much i want to do outside of that

[jolly flume]

I pull a new character just so I can log in 5 minutes a day for dailies and log back out

and then doing the endgame feels like a chore because it's all so easy anyway

[worn bluff]

i'm trying to push through endfield to see if it makes more sense to me later

but my factory is jammed up and i don't want to fix it

and i don't feel like dragging power lines around

[jolly flume]

endfield's story will probably get much better with time given who's writing it but MAN it is horrific rn

[worn bluff]

i liked the easy exploration of wuwa

[stray forge]

Tbh most gachas seem like the type of thing you play a few days every like 3-6 months lmao

[worn bluff]

the main draw for me in endfield was the architecture and darker more consistent art style, but then characters like yvonne, ardelia, last rite take me out of that

idk what last rite is but i am not the target audience for that

[jolly flume]

I was hoping for arknights worldbuilding in endfield, which I got
what I did not get was arknights storytelling

the stories feel like they're written for consumption by gradeschoolers

[jaunty pulsar]

I got stuck in a quick ranked Mahjong for more than 40 minutes

damn moogle tomes... if I knew

[dapper zealot]

I mean, that is the general age of the community

[worn bluff]

and then in wuwa they're doing "every other character has a dark side oOoOoooo" which is annoying too

[jolly flume]

my issue with wuwa is that each patch feels way too self contained and it detracts from the overall world

like I've never heard someone say they like the overarching themes of wuwa

it's just oh I like x character story

because that's really all it is

[worn bluff]

the gacha business model is so detrimental to character and plot design

you can have the most talented devs

but that model will just push them towards weird design decisions

i do like the cinema of wuwa cutscenes, although it's kind of surface level

[jolly flume]

hype moments and aura

[worn bluff]

WWM seems to have cooler story moments

but i can't navigate those menus and systems

what do you mean i fell 5 feet too high and now i need to find another player to play a minigame to heal my sprained ankle

[dapper zealot]

Haven't heard anything from wwm after that initial hype

[jolly flume]

I feel like the only things that game really had going for it

was its novelty factor

and once that wears off it's like whatever

[dapper zealot]

Yeah pretty common now

Like does palworld have anything going for it besides giving the middle finger to Nintendo?

[jolly flume]

the ripoffs have gotten

just a little bit blatant lately

[dapper zealot]

Palworld got palworlded

[sinful brook]

We have Brazilian chiyo and Australian chiyo now?

[jolly flume]

apparently

[sinful brook]

Can we get Ugandan chiyo

[jolly flume]

fuck me man

reminded me of who killed captain alex again

[dapper zealot]

They need to find the way first

[jolly flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JABdS-HN5A

literally the best movie I've ever watched

me and 4 of my friends in high school on a friday night with alcohol

fucking wheezing on the floor

[dapper zealot]

Cinema

[worn bluff]

ngl palworld was fun when it came out

like it's not the same kind of game but i've had more fun in palworld than most actual pokemon games

[dapper zealot]

Not exactly a high bar to pass

The mobileslop ads makes it look like utter shit now tbh

[worn bluff]

i mean fair

even without that bar i think it was a fun game

game asset and art design wise it's bad

gameplay wise it was fun, especially with friends

[worn bluff]

there's a reason so many people played it on launch and it wasn't just because of the shock factor of shooting pokemon

[trim frost]

scratches the pokemon-with-friends itch that pokemon itself hasn’t really capitalized on

for the most part pokemon multiplayer has just been trading and battling

[worn bluff]

yeah it was far from perfect but was cool for a while

[trim frost]

gave us digtoise in terraria which is lowkey one of the best items in the game

[kindred bison]

someone did an at everyone in the CoDCAR discord

[trim frost]

i think it was a mod

[worn bluff]

@jolly flume my exploration level just went up i'm getting cooked by regular overworld enemies

i only have one character at lv40 the rest are 20

i guess i should go upgrade them...

[vestal hollow]

mb

im new

[jolly flume]

you can turn it down temporarily

also keeping up with gear makes it a lot less painful

[worn bluff]

oh yeah i guess i should just go manually gather some shrooms and ores

to at least get my weapons/operators to 40

looks like i'm up to 90 pulls' worth not counting the login ones they'll give out. so i should be able to get a banner later

[magic carbon]

GOD i love the queen sphene fight

Its so fun

[visual geyser]

Cool fight ngl

Ex is good too

[worn bluff]

the ending is kind of weak since it’s basically endsinger again

but i liked the first part

[turbid haven]

is this where they announce next expansion things?

I just want to tune in for the upcoming teasers and updates

[loud nymph]

yes, they will probably announce 8.0 then

[fierce matrix]

Yep

And most likely ultimate

Surely

[cursive echo]

Yeah. It's getting about that time of year..Yoshis shirts

[sleek moon]

too bad NA tends to be the most barebones

[craggy marsh]

Well the ult could also be announced at the next LL too

Which is i think the week before fanfest

[sleek moon]

i think they wont announce the ulti there

but idk

the wording in #translations-and-liveletters was "wait for the fanfest" under ulti

[craggy marsh]

Aaah I see

[quick verge]

yoshida gonna lie his fuckin ass off son

this gonna be generational

[visual geyser]

W goat w scammer

[craggy marsh]

One thing I hope is they stop announcing things that aren't gonna come out until 2 years after the expansion comes out

BST being announced before 7.0 but not coming until 7.55 rubs me the wrong way

[cursive echo]

Or at the end of it..Beast Master

[vestal hollow]

tropical expansion again bc of the colors ???

[craggy marsh]

Cyberpunk expansion again pls look forward to it

[vestal hollow]

L game

[proper cave]

Nah hidden Sanic expansion

Do not search that lol

[whole estuary]

so the alliance raid will be Star Ocean collab

[silver storm]

A bitter dance

[whole estuary]

wow there are like no star ocean gifs

[silver storm]

This will do

[whole estuary]

it will let us unlock Pepetti's autograph as an FC crest for gear

[silver storm]

Introduce SO crafting

[sleek moon]

its gonna happen regardless

people just need to temper their expectations lol

something's always gonna be left for .4 or .5

its more wild to me that people thought BST would be earlier than that considering when BLU was added

[whole estuary]

👏 no 👏 more👏 roadmaps👏

[sinful brook]

What if

More roadmaps

But they are down to the minute

[whole estuary]

perfect, I get to breathe down Yoshi P's neck like some incompetent middle manager

[vestal hollow]

i want roadmaps but we shouldnt be waiting 4 months for cookiecutter content at this point

like other games are shortening the time between content

[whole estuary]

what do you mean by cookiecutter content?

[vestal hollow]

the same fundamental format every patch between expacs

[silver storm]

New crafting job that cuts cookies

[visual geyser]

Inc

[stark cypress]

When it comes to Dawntrail extremes, is EX1 or EX2 “easier” for a first time extreme player? I want the wings and I want to learn, just not sure which one would be better to start with.

[visual geyser]

Start with 1

[vestal hollow]

the newest extreme

[whole estuary]

but like, what does that even mean

[sinful brook]

Both are currently gearcrept so neither will be too difficult

[vestal hollow]

youre gonna struggle to get a fresh pf for ex1

[visual geyser]

Oh yea true

[whole estuary]

"they've made society quests before, so obviously writing the story and making the resources for a new one should take less time, because they can just copy paste the old story/materials to make the new one"

[stark cypress]

I see PF’s for both fairly frequently but I’m only now IL 740 so I figured I can realistically start looking at practice runs.

[vestal hollow]

people are doing duty complete farms

[stark cypress]

Aw, yeah. I forgot about that filter.

[vestal hollow]

i didnt even say this

[whole estuary]

I know, that's why I was asking you to explain further

because that could be how "cookie cutter" is interpreted

a simple easy template that can be applied effortlessly to mass produce a thing

[vestal hollow]

yes thats what i mean lol

i didnt say carelessly copy things

[whole estuary]

but when applied to reality we know that it doesn't REALLY work that way

[vestal hollow]

but wow does like 2-3 month cycles for content with far more replay value and far more diversity than what we get

if wow can do it, why is the distance between patches here so long

besides the obvious

[whole estuary]

I've never played wow, but I'm hesitant to call more grind more content depending on how it did play out

[sleek moon]

a lot of that replay value is tied to gearing though

[vestal hollow]

same here, but the gearing loop is far less interesting.

[sleek moon]

and ffxiv gearing needs... a lot more work before you can bring in replay value in other content

[vestal hollow]

yes, i know

[sleek moon]

over the years i just realized yoshida as a designer looks at the outcome rather than the process

[vestal hollow]

wow isnt even all that grindy lol

[sleek moon]

idk if this is something he's ever gonna change

[vestal hollow]

has far more avenues for gearing besides one

[vestal hollow]

afaik he said he admits they have to make major changes in that way a few months back

[sleek moon]

like if there's always a "right" set of talents to use, he skips adding options and just have those talents baked into skills as passives or whatever

no side paths in dungeons because everyone always picks the fast one

no trash in raids because people just want to skip it

[vestal hollow]

im talking about overworld content

[sleek moon]

the outcome is kinda the same but makes ffxiv look more... sterile

or sanitized

[sinful brook]

I think the cooki cutter was of xiv releases is that we can predict exactly what comes where

Even for adventure forays

[sleek moon]

if they added the equivalent of world quest gear in 14 open world id expect it to be just, either same or worse than crafted and not interesting in any way

[sinful brook]

And the replay value of the content losses steam exceptionally quickly

[whole estuary]

they probably could have spent more time working on content, but I do feel they've been spending their extra time working on backend QoL instead, which DT had a lot of

[sinful brook]

Yeah but those shouldn't be mutually exclusive

Your qol team shouldn't also be allocated to making map portals for example

Your rewards team shouldn't do raid design

[whole estuary]

I occasionally hear stuff like "they'd have to not release an expac for an entire cycle if they really wanted to hunker down and fix all the spaghetti code" which isn't true based on what you're saying since they have teams for different functions yeah

But it is a nod to the amount of work involved, and we've been getting a good amount of both content and backend work for DT

[craggy marsh]

That's why they should announce it after an expansion releases

[sleek moon]

idk id rather know everything going into the expansion than not knowing

[whole estuary]

so like 1-year roadmaps or less, but not 2-3 year ones

[sleek moon]

not knowing that bst was coming wouldnt have changed anything about it releasing in 7.5

[sinful brook]

The fact of the matter is we aren't privy to their organizational structure but they seem to imply that their teams are blended together

Which

Isn't good

[sleek moon]

if they were to split the roadmaps into 7.0-7.2 and 7.3-7.5 id be fine too but im also not pressed by their current roadmap

[craggy marsh]

well them announcing stuff early leads to the BLU situation where they promised a BLU update for 7.X before 7.0 came out

So people who liked BLU were waiting for the BLU update

[sinful brook]

Also the goodwill they got from shb is fading for a lot of people

[craggy marsh]

only to be met with "We couldn't do it sorry"

[sinful brook]

It feels like they aren't as communicative as before

Whether that's true is a different discussion

[craggy marsh]

sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't

it's weird

[sinful brook]

And a lot of other studios learned from what they did and bettered themselves

So the standard is higher

[craggy marsh]

if there's one thing I want changed it's the stupid long wait for the savage lockout to be lifted

[sinful brook]

Yeah it should be gone once it's off patch

Release normal loot on x.even8

[craggy marsh]

ya a 7-8 month wait is ridiculous

[sleek moon]

tbh even if they split the roadmaps like i said, the blu update was prob cancelled last minute, itd still would have been announced in a "part 2" roadmap just to be delayed

it seems they left mr ozma as the sole person in charge of both blu and bst for this expansion

and bst took longer than expected

[craggy marsh]

what's even funnier is for some reason the tomestone weapon upgrade is delayed for purchase with the AR coins

the gear and accessories are available right away when the off patch comes out

but the weapon you have to wait till the .x8

why I have no idea

[craggy marsh]

I just hope we get 2 BLU updates in 8.X to make up for it

[midnight furnace]

Damn soon we will discover where 8.x is taking us

Only less than a month left

[sinful brook]

Can't let casuals have fake bis too fast

[midnight furnace]

Man im gonna miss Dawntrail

This has been a ride

Met my Static in it

[craggy marsh]

Yoshi and his weird idea that ilevel gear is "prestige" will never make sense to me

[sleek moon]

i remember i think in stormblood(?) we had two blu level cap increases

[sinful brook]

No there's way more than a month lol

[craggy marsh]

Ya in SHB we got two BLU updates

[sleek moon]

bst would also need fast tracked level cap increases to get up to BLU

[craggy marsh]

60 and then 70

[sinful brook]

Live letter is not expac release

[midnight furnace]

Isnt Fanfest in april 25?

[sinful brook]

Yeah fanfest 1 of 3

[craggy marsh]

On the 24th we'll get a trailer but who knows if they'll say where we're going

[sinful brook]

We get a title and trailer to tickle your balls a bit

[midnight furnace]

Fair enough, but i think at least we will get a hint yeah

[sleek moon]

teaser trailers dont show a whole lot

[craggy marsh]

ya

it'll be 30-40 seconds of WoL walking

[midnight furnace]

Im mostly worried if next raid tier will keep up Arcadion quality

[jolly flume]

[craggy marsh]

I do hope they announce one of the new jobs at the NA fanfest tho

[sinful brook]

Yeah in a we haven't loaded your character yet robe

[midnight furnace]

Probs not

[sinful brook]

Because obviously wol is one of the new jobs

Or headliner job

[midnight furnace]

We will probably get WoL in either new job silhouette or in one of the melee that havent got focus

[craggy marsh]

the first fanfest is always a little lackluster to me bc it only has the expac teaser and that's it

[midnight furnace]

But reveal will be in German Fanfest

[craggy marsh]

they don't talk about much at all

[midnight furnace]

And then 2nd job will be in Jp fanfest

[craggy marsh]

would be nice for them to change things up a bit

but we shall see

[jolly flume]

who wanna do 3 hours of normal raid roulette

[sleek moon]

why

[jolly flume]

im literally that bored

[boreal pumice]

chiyo its finally over

[jolly flume]

gz

[sinful brook]

Now do it again

But in French

[craggy marsh]

and as a melee

[boreal pumice]

does war count as melee

[craggy marsh]

ye

if it uses melee weapon then it counts

[boreal pumice]

doing it in french woulnt be to bad least i can see difference in letters compared to someone who did it in jp tyring to work out the kanji

[sleek moon]

doing it in french puts a 10% dmg down debuff

[sinful brook]

No if you do it in French you gotta in unequip your job stone and play badly

[boreal pumice]

no difference from my normal gameplay tbh

[midnight furnace]

Time to start my M12S prog

Lets face the Worm

(Lets see if p1 is that ez)

[rapid whale]

everything burns

[sinful brook]

Things you don't want to think when you pee

[jolly flume]

UTI? what game genre is that

[craggy marsh]

UTI is the next ult

[sinful brook]

Ultimate terminal illness

[tulip anvil]

ridiculous pf for those who want easy cash

i would join but i havent cleared the fight :(

[sinful brook]

Just clear it

[jolly flume]

guess i'm playing cyberpunk again

[sleek moon]

im unsubbed until fanfest week, i wonder if ill get to work on cyberpunk finally

or spend 3 weeks doing nothing but look at discord and play 3 gachas

[jolly flume]

honestly

still amazing game

finish it

[worn bluff]

i thought cyberpunk was even good at 1.0 outside of the performance issues

[tulip anvil]

I can’t I’m scared

[sinful brook]

The glitches are part of the experience

[sleek moon]

i get live service brainrot sometimes, takes me forever to just get myself to open a single player game

[worn bluff]

game crashing is V just dropping dead in the middle of the street

[jolly flume]

the relic won

[jolly flume]

also same

I very rarely finish them

unless they're exceptional

[kind elm]

come finish runescape

[loud nymph]

it's possible to finish runescape? lies

[jade nimbus]

Play better single player games, smh

[visual geyser]

I’m personally also in a single player drought myself

Finished octopath and Romeo is a deadman so I’m just waiting for Elliot

[queen raft]

Any theories on what 8.0 will be called?

[boreal pumice]

daytooona

[sinful brook]

Mid-afternoon stroll

[random needle]

Your guess us as good as mine

[worn bluff]

there was some questionable leak that said starfarer was a scrapped name

but who knows

[sinful brook]

Starunfairer

Sunswimmer

Galaxydestroyer

[whole estuary]

pleasepleaseplease be another SB abbreviation

[sinful brook]

Asteroidannhilator

[visual geyser]

Idk we know the expansion color is silver

And winter themed maybe

Idk what cringe ways you can say silver tho

[sinful brook]

Shiny grey battle

[whole estuary]

Shiruba, with a voice crack

[worn bluff]

Final Fantasy: Iceborne

velkhana shows up

[visual geyser]

Real!

[craggy marsh]

Silver the Hedgehog

[turbid haven]

potion the plumes?

[kind elm]

yea

it would take you a very very very very very very very very long time

but its definitely possible

[loud nymph]

In a human lifespan though?

[kind elm]

definitely possible

its possible very quickly if youre very lucky

theoretically there is someone out there who will greenlog every collection log in just a few kills/clears

honestly it might be me i have been incredibly spooned in this game

i have some filthy collection logs

in this one there are three 1/300 droprate items, three 1/3000 droprate items, and one 1/700 droprate item

in under 100 clears

[remote gate]

i open steam and see chiyo on cyberpunk

nature is healing

[visual geyser]

nice vape bro

[sinful brook]

Cyberlunk

[loud nymph]

chiyopunk

[tulip wraith]

so close

[dapper zealot]

wake the fuck up samurai, we have a dsr to burn

[jolly flume]

I can burn that shit all day

[magic carbon]

Chop chop 24 hours on dsr prog

[jolly flume]

no prog necessary we toteming

lock in

[midnight furnace]

Well first day of M12S prog was fun

Reached Curtain Call

Can reliably do Act 2 which is nice

Act 3 aint as tricky anymore but surprisingly its Act 1 thats giving me more issue now

[sleek moon]

until you only get beta for 2 months in a row and then you suddenly have to do alpha and forget the prio

[midnight furnace]

Lmao

Actually i got a lot of Alpha mostly

So running around coil insted or just staying still

[sinful brook]

You know

Act 2 didn't trip me up that bad

But act 3 I was like brain damaged

Couldn't figure out that I had to stand on the upper corner except when n/s card

And then everything else in p1 was jok

[jolly flume]

man I missed being called a cut of fuckable meat

[sleek moon]

i was good with both in act 2, but after so many weeks in a row doing only beta the first time i saw alpha again my brain froze

act 3 i just used a strategy board thing lol

but act 3 we as a group also had the issue of 6 weeks of doing only cards

and week 7 had inter

it went as you'd expect

[sinful brook]

I lb for the sake of clear but

My Sam should be doing it madge

I do more damagay

[jolly flume]

[kind elm]

wrong chat

[jolly flume]

right chat

[worn bluff]

this channel is only for discussing endfield

[rapid whale]

ending the field

[dapper zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/v8zelbQVFiI

true king

[stiff sage]

god damn late in the week merc parties take years to fill

you'd think a 6m would fill but its years

[midnight dome]

This the spoiler channel right?

[jolly flume]

I mean it's not a channel specifically for spoilers but nobody's gonna care

[daring pine]

this is the endgame channel

[thin tartan]

you blow up

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/my-main-goal-is-to-blow-up-and-act-like-i-don't-know-nobody-my-main-goal-is-to-blow-up-hahaha-gif-2863015232596367169

[jolly flume]

latent brainrot reactivated

[wind cypress]

m9s enraged .__.

[thin tartan]

insane

[wind cypress]

I was playing around on my white mage, I always find the dps enrages, poor peeps

[jolly flume]

it's like week 852

nobody who is still in 9 is anything but new or horrendous or both

[wind cypress]

yeah

[alpine plover]

chiyo awake

[jolly flume]

sadly

I should probably sleep soon

[sleek moon]

a sea of 8s

[rapid whale]

more proof that a clear is not always a clear

[tepid briar]

11 on scholar

[alpine plover]

11k dps scholar

[tepid briar]

I had a 4k sage once

banger shielding tho

[daring pine]

what the fuck

[tepid briar]

yea

m10

[daring pine]

execute them

[tepid briar]

@daring pine

[alpine plover]

iirc the average full crafted healer dps in week one was uhh

19k?

[daring pine]

bro

[daring pine]

yea

[alpine plover]

so your healer in that party basically played as if they have perma DD debuff

[daring pine]

like 19

[alpine plover]

[tepid briar]

40% gcd uptime

[alpine plover]

checks out

it's a good time to check whether your goldfish is drowning

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420652632454070304/1367620391492915372/LightCatParty-4x.gif

[tepid briar]

m10 cleared

now time to cry in m11

the one thing I remember from m11 is people being like "yeah you have to specifically stand on the corner of this tile"

watching hector video:

• arena change
• arena change

only 1/3 into the video

[daring pine]

yup

you'll be fine dw

weapons will get a lot of people

[alpine plover]

what u playin

whm?

[daring pine]

ya

[alpine plover]

you'll be fine

probably...

[daring pine]

tithus i have a confession

[alpine plover]

[daring pine]

sometimes i forget the stacks/spreads swap for weapons

and then i stare at my hotbar

no acceleration stacks

swiftcast on cd

i'm so smart

[alpine plover]

what are you playing marce

caster?

[daring pine]

i just said acceleration

[alpine plover]

so caster

[thin tartan]

whats that

[daring pine]

rdm

[thin tartan]

whats rdm

[alpine plover]

you can always stay at the back no?

like southmost point

[daring pine]

i mean the one where the aoes spawn under u

[alpine plover]

oh

[daring pine]

then u party stack

[alpine plover]

nvm im dumb

wait am i

you mean weapons weapon or

the initial weapons

[daring pine]

my brain is fried bro

hang on

[alpine plover]

like scythe/axe (with the tankbusters)
or

scythe sword axe

[daring pine]

right before dance of domination

[alpine plover]

ok so the weapons weapons

yea then idk there

i heard it's easier if you fake melee as a caster

[thin tartan]

sword scythe be upon ye

[daring pine]

its just me forgetting to hold a stack

lol

itgs not hard i just forgor

[alpine plover]

eh i also sometimes dont hold a holy spirit

for axe

so i just cast it

[daring pine]

like

accel is 2 free gcds

[alpine plover]

reverse problem

[daring pine]

which covers the movement

[thin tartan]

you dont need hs for axe

you just gotta walk in the moment it goes off

[alpine plover]

if it doesn't allign with my gcd

i'm not risking axe

it's not worth it

[thin tartan]

trust me u can do it

[alpine plover]

yes i know i can

but it's not worth

[thin tartan]

risk it tithus.

do it.

[alpine plover]

billy i have a rule

[daring pine]

tithus

one time i tried to get a melee combo in after sword

never again

[alpine plover]

if i die twice due to greed after that i dont greed that boss

[thin tartan]

do it.

do it.

[daring pine]

i cant do it on na

[alpine plover]

but it's also not worth in general cuz i can just hold a holy spirit proc

and i dont need to greed at all then

paladin is cheat class

i tried with drk too and then i cringe more if i don't greed

[thin tartan]

drk 11 is super gamble

[alpine plover]

it's also super fun

liking drk more than gnb now

after the changes

it's mostly due to me not bothering to read the new gnb rotation

but alas

[tepid briar]

11: I heard you liked tethers

I'm still surprised we cleared m10 first time in this pf

[amber fable]

Gnb plays same as old

Just 1 min lion combo

[tough gorge]

gnb is less punishing than before but it plays p much the same

you just have 2 charges of gnashing fang

[thin fox]

neat

[tired egret]

[alpine plover]

[dull drum]

actual gameplay footage thanks man

i love modern gaming

[thin fox]

stealth announce no mch in 8.0

[alpine plover]

machinist now has a party buff

[dull drum]

watch them cancel blue mage entirely (blue mage discord is alr on suicide watch iirc)

[amber fable]

Wildfire does 10% buff for 12 seccond

[tough gorge]

bruh the blu academy discord icon has a morbol huffing copium

[zealous meteor]

[tired egret]

Back on April 1st

[pale gale]

YES

YES

😭

[dapper zealot]

Worth getting ACT if you haven't already to track your prog through savage and check areas of improvement

[pale gale]

i did and theres alot of progress to be made

xiv and fflogs

[wicked delta]

time for more dt msq for my alt...

[visual geyser]

Few more weeks and she won’t be relevant anymore

[wicked delta]

i am not a wuk disliker

i just dont like the msq as a whole lol

[random needle]

She will always be relevant in my heart

[dapper zealot]

if you dislike the msq, then why are you playing it?

checkmate liberal

[zealous meteor]

and yet nobody complains about every other msq objective being "speak with alphinaud"

[wicked delta]

GIVE ME LIBERTY GIVE ME FIRE GIVE ME MORE SHITTY TRAILING SOLO DUTIES OR I RETIRE

[zealous meteor]

i'm so sorry

at least i'm done with them on my alt now i think

...until 8.0

[dapper zealot]

they should have added more trailing missions for dawntrail

[wicked delta]

THANKS GAME

is this miqo yaoi

[dapper zealot]

now kiss

[zealous meteor]

yes

[wicked delta]

i forgot theres a whole kidnapping plot

they jus be doing anything in this story man

[random needle]

The kidnapping is probably my least favorite part of DT and I'm jealous of people who can repress the memory

[dapper zealot]

It was so stupid

[wicked delta]

i literally repressed it until now LMFAO

[dapper zealot]

also thanks for reminding me

[random needle]

How does someone get kidnapped walking 50 feet away in plain sight 😭

[wicked delta]

isnt she literally royalty why was she dumb enough to go along with some random anyway

[dapper zealot]

She loves to run off on her own, that's kinda in line

what's dumb is that none of us went with her

[zealous meteor]

it's a lot more than 50 fulms in world
zones are very compressed for gameplay purposes

[daring pine]

@wicked delta blinks slowly

[random needle]

I mean, it is kind of a character development thing, the first half of DT is going from a naive princess to someone who understands the people she'll be ruling

But how did we let this happen? We're smarter than this

[zealous meteor]

like, earthenshire to the zone line is probably 12 hours of travel or some shit

[wicked delta]

erenville the supposed smart guy of the group stands there and lets a literal princess fuck off bc some dude told her

[visual geyser]

Same

[random needle]

Then that makes it even more ludicrous that she'd travel that far alone

[visual geyser]

First half of dawntrail is actual dogshit

[daring pine]

i erased the kidnapping from my mind why did u have to remind me

dumbass story plot

[visual geyser]

Second half is slightly better?

Still meh

[random needle]

I enjoyed DT MSQ my first time through with the sole exception of the kidnapping, that burned me

[visual geyser]

I only like DT post patches

[wicked delta]

first half was dogshit yea

[visual geyser]

I think .2 - .4 were all good

[wicked delta]

second half i liked it

[magic carbon]

I like the first half of DT and thr post patches

[zealous meteor]

i enjoyed the entire msq (except 7.1) but it definitely has. issues

[wicked delta]

patches were great

[random needle]

... Admittedly the Shaaloani segment before the plot kicks up again is also really slow, but it's not actively offensive to me personally like the kidnapping was

[wicked delta]

i like all the characters its just some of these plot points man

the whole valigarmanda arc made me almost uninstall bc its genuinely just

ugh

[visual geyser]

Few more weeks until we get a new cast

[wicked delta]

its so bad

[visual geyser]

I can’t wait to leave DT behind story wise

[magic carbon]

My thing was that I just dont like "modern" aesthetics as much so thats why I kinda stopped playing after the whole invasion of tulliyolal thing

[random needle]

Bakool Ja Ja thinking the best way to become president is to do a terrorism:

[wicked delta]

speaking of

[dapper zealot]

yok tuah

[dapper zealot]

Second half was nice, but extremely undercooked

[visual geyser]

I like the second half more retroactively