endgame-lounge

[proven pivot]

Yeah

I’ve also been playing astro a lot, hope I can go into savages as astro one day

[dapper zealot]

automod got me when I tried to call chiyo out

[zealous meteor]

how

did you call him a slur

[echo ibex]

Yeah

||Pranged main||

[fierce matrix]

GNB is my goat

[zealous meteor]

i mean actual slur

[fierce matrix]

Dont talk shit about him

[zealous meteor]

like one that would get you muted

(and i know he wouldn't)

[fierce matrix]

My name is Furen

[echo ibex]

That's an actual slur smh

[fierce matrix]

But sometimes im called Sluren

[dapper zealot]

no lmao

[fierce matrix]

(This is a meme please understand)

[zealous meteor]

then what happened

[jolly flume]

oh nah

[dapper zealot]

I forgot what I said but it was in context of this

[sinful brook]

I can change that

[dapper zealot]

Oh I remmeber now

[zealous meteor]

what was it

i wanna know

[dapper zealot]

can't trick me into getting muted again 😌

[rapid whale]

sluren von

[fierce matrix]

[wicked delta]

So ive been forced into healer jail a while ago and ngl im still struggling to keep uptime during weapons in M11

Is there anything I could do better? Im on the cane job for context (white mage)

Its mostly the cursed patterns where my uptime just drops to 0 because im more busy with running

[rapid whale]

put the redot in the bag

iirc some people use swift cast during it too

[wicked delta]

Redotting constantly during sword - scythe - sword sounds kinda cursed ngl

[true beacon]

Least it does damage on application for whm

[abstract hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[wicked delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[thin tartan]

this

warrior

[shadow pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[thin tartan]

from eu

managing to

do

easthogg

twice

sob

[vast jacinth]

Mbbv

[thin tartan]

say mb atleast mann 😭

i trolled the first pull out of shakies and the p6 pull the war stepped outside of the hitbox on wings 1

[stray forge]

3

[jolly flume]

you should be able to rapture between every single one

on a lucky pattern you won't even need rapture to move

[thin tartan]

ok

im never winning this chud minion

[jolly flume]

as a rule of thumb you should not have to use an instant before an axe

and you should always reserve the dash for sword into scythe

so what I usually end up doing is 3 raptures and plenary during weapons 1 which is essentially free uptime, 2 raptures and temperance during weapons 2 (don't fall for the trap of using raptures for the puddles before this, just go to the edge of the arena and slidecast by yourself), 1 rapture for the puddles after weapons 2, then you have four raptures and a misery for ultimate, and where you use those raptures is essentially entirely up to you for movement because bell and temp nearly solo heal the mechanic

you can also opt to drop a misery out of buffs during weapons 2 if you need an extra movement gcd there but that's avoidable 99% of the time

[valid solar]

are you doing content

[wicked delta]

ill try that sure

[thin tartan]

no

[fierce matrix]

D is not content

D is life

[thin tartan]

Faerie) so just like FRU I am giving away a mogstation outfit of choice to 1x /random at the end, so we will dice roll then (there are alternatives if you don't want the outfit dw)

?

[fierce matrix]

Tf lol

[jolly flume]

for a c41?

that's cool

someone did a comm for me for c41ing them in fru once

nothing super complex but it was cute

[bright dome]

lets say you were starting ff14
and could open only 1 slot and master it
end game focused totally (all endgame content)
what class/build would u choose and why

[wicked delta]

If I was forced into a single job I would not play this game

[random needle]

Honestly same tbh

[timber stratus]

monk but endwalker monk

then i would be good

[finite plank]

i'd play eso

[jolly flume]

i'd uh

🫃

[wicked delta]

Why are you pregnant

[jolly flume]

idk

[wicked delta]

Abort it

[inner shadow]

How one would achieve these stats to craft crested gear without buying crested gear?
If I get orange scripts lvl 100 gear, their stats are better than crested, no?

[terse zodiac]

No they are equal(?) without the ability to overmeld but probably get you to be able to craft crested

[inner shadow]

What do people usually go for, orange script gear and then craft crested?

[thin tartan]

People just buy crafted

[inner shadow]

Someone has to craft them no?

[thin tartan]

pretty sure rhey were craftable with previous tiers pentameld

I think????

[terse zodiac]

Previous pentameld would be better than scrip gear so yes

[inner shadow]

You would think but please look at craftmanship required

[thin tartan]

Yes im p sure the prev tier hit it

[inner shadow]

AFAIK -
Tools - hyper tools are best gear as I know (Or gold thumbs?)
Crested is best (Overmelding)
One tier below crested is orange scrip gear

Correct?

[thin tartan]

5408 crsftmanship

xd

[thin tartan]

idk bout relic but this is p much correct yeah

[terse zodiac]

The cheap set with full scrip gear gives 5635 craftsmanship / 4969 control / 583 cp

So you have the stats to make crested from there

[inner shadow]

Cheap set?

[terse zodiac]

No gil needed just base melds and lot of scrips

Pentamelding is whats gonna cost the most

[inner shadow]

Ok so I'm going for:
Main tool - cosmic tool
Subtool- Star tech (750 IL Orange scrips)
Gear - Star tech (750 IL)
Meld to max (2 per slot)
Then craft crested
Then pentameld

Should be ok right?

[tepid briar]

scrip gear + melds + food should be enough to hit the requirement?

but you're still gonna need HQ mats

[tepid briar]

yeah looks good

have you done pentamelding for crafters before? cause fyi that stuff gets really really expensive

[worn bluff]

me blowing up 2 mil worth of materia in 30 seconds

just to meld two slots

[sleek moon]

i want a mod that shows black mage lb3 when you blow up 100+ materia in one go

[stark cypress]

So I’m farming GC seals for my anima relics, trading moonstones for crystal sand, and I’m curious about GC Seal farming methods. I understand the expert delivery is probably the most efficient way, but what dungeons are the “go-to” for this?

I’ve been unsyncing Holminster Switch with great success, and it’s a good payout, but is there perhaps another dungeon that offers more loot per run?

[quick verge]

what about 200

or 300

[inner shadow]

Nah, all I have are 2 cosmic tools so far, not even hyper

I'm a new endgamer

https://tenor.com/view/hobbit-adventure-gif-18135104

[sinful brook]

It stacks

[rapid whale]

low key im not 100% sure its worth penta melding crafters unless you intend to spend a lot of time crafting

at least this late into the expansion

[fierce matrix]

You can flip some LQ mats to HQ crafts

Thats about it

[tepid briar]

yeah just keep in mind penta cost goes into the millions iirc

[open coral]

Heavily rng dependant

You can offset the cost by stockpiling scripts and materia, then just make sure to buy on the cheapest server.

[worn bluff]

i was so lazy that i just sold one set day 1 then bought food/pot the entire tier

made back the gil through merc c41s

[uncut pebble]

is there anyone who happens to have drk bis in shadowbringers

[true beacon]

Wh-why?

[kind elm]

parsing probably

[jolly flume]

old drk bis isn't gonna be current drk bis anyways, pieces will have been replaced

[uncut pebble]

i am simply curious

[jolly flume]

if you need the old sets though

idk maybe cats has the sauce

lol

[true beacon]

BiS’d be mix of Eden and Crypt with Bozja weapon

[uncut pebble]

intersting

[verbal whale]

I wish they had an IQ test for PF

[rapid whale]

skill b ased match making

[wicked delta]

You really don’t

[sinful brook]

i mean some people who wish for it wouldn't pass the test so

[clear plume]

Just check people’s past performance it works better than an iq test would so

[worn bluff]

parties also just wouldn’t fill

filling ulti PF normally: 2 hours
filling ulti PF with an IQ test: N/A

[vestal hollow]

a monkey doesnt need to pass an iq test to use a typewriter

[verbal whale]

This

[loud swift]

iq tests wouldnt prove anything there anyways

some people refuse to learn

doesnt matter how quick u can adapt

[worn bluff]

there are also plenty of smart people who don’t bother to study fights or rotations

like they might put in effort when they’re in the instance but they don’t know any of the fundamentals

[vestal hollow]

how do you determine this in a turn based mmo

[trim frost]

teahead

[uncut pebble]

promise.....

[trim frost]

there is a chance i might join a tea static

[proven pivot]

Do you guys know any hand glam items similar to these

They leave a rusty brown color even when dyed jet black and it pisses me off

[jolly flume]

doorboss is such slop to parse lmao

[worn bluff]

i’m on fire bagging harder than anyone alive

[flat vault]

they look pretty black to me

[proven pivot]

I’m using the pvp version :(

Let me check the artifact ones

[flat vault]

ah

yeah the artifact ones are fully dyeable

or well

they dont look like ass when dyed rather

[jolly flume]

when do I get to crit

[worn bluff]

sometimes i think about going for an ok killtime on 12-2

but then i remember that there are more fun things to do

[jolly flume]

at least the other fights are like fun

but door is just pure slop

[robust shoal]

first pull blind lol

funni boss

[jolly flume]

counting hard

[rapid whale]

Wuzzat

[robust shoal]

alo alo

fairy with a gun

[valid solar]

oh I love that mount

wish we got a feo ul mount like that

[jolly flume]

[worn bluff]

better hope someone comes and beats you

[jolly flume]

it's over I beat it

r38 now

[clear plume]

the jp double drk comps make me cri

[valid solar]

I will never win a roll

[tulip wraith]

why are they gween

[valid solar]

the bisbuddy plogon highlights what you need for bis

[tulip wraith]

ooo

[valid solar]

never let me play bard

[jolly flume]

fire

[tulip wraith]

i keep seeing the ~ as a negative

the concept of negative parses

[valid solar]

1 singular death and I get a 1 ?

thats literally the only 2 suggestions

[jolly flume]

in what

[valid solar]

oh yeah I was checking from the archon apps built in thing, let me see if this is set to rdps

ok yeah I presume it is

[clear plume]

give me the log

[valid solar]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/YAN89ZBJhCD7nb1g?fight=last&type=damage-done

[clear plume]

gear?

[valid solar]

there is definitely a gear thing here because I am still 782

wasnt mentioned in xivanal but I think right at the end where we killed I did my burst in the wrong order

[clear plume]

1030 buffs?

[valid solar]

yeah

[clear plume]

okay so, write up otw

[thin tartan]

You fucking suck

[valid solar]

[clear plume]

your refulgent procs are about 30% lower than average, which is not great, to start off, but

your death made you lose a AABA, you basically lost a 2m due to holding at the end and then not seeing most of it

you fucked up songs at the end, dont hold wanderers for the 10:30, just do a long song rotation after the 8m so its a 2:15 long cycle, wanderers at 10:12, then it will still be up for the entire 2m window without being songless like you did.

radiant was further drifted even beyond a 10:30 buff timing and was 10:40 instead. you also had slight drift by about 4 seconds before that from the opener to 8m window, which you should try to avoid.

your last apex was at 9:12 so idk how you didnt have one for final burst, you instead iron jawed 6 seconds before the boss died, never do that, it takes 12s of dots for them to replace a filler, even under buffs, if boss is dying after buffs (or during them) you skip the IJ and never skip a larger hit like AABA for it.

you potted 8m when the entire point of 1030 buffs is to pot opener, 6m, and then the 10:30 window. use pot at opener and right before knockup for arena split, then its up for the 1030 window, you also only used a single pot the entire fight

your 8m iron jaws missed radiant and BV as well, needed to use it a gcd earlier

[sleek moon]

cooked bungo

[valid solar]

yeah I realized 30 seconds in I didnt pot the opener so I figured id just do the other two and then I messed up the timing again I should start a stopwatch on my other screen to keep track of the pull time

[clear plume]

if you didnt die, your plan for AABA should be to use during the start of the 8m window, use the next 3 on cd, and it will give you 240 for the delayed buffs bc of the extra time spent holding (especially if paired up with the extra time songed up by doing the full 45 of mages and armys both)

but yeah, even without the death it probably would have been a low green or high grey bc of the errors

[tepid briar]

first time I've ever had to babysit healing the tanks in m10

idk what was up that time

[valid solar]

ngl I didnt even consider not cancelling songs early when holding, how do you figure how much longer you can use the other two without drifting wanderers out of 2m

[clear plume]

wym? you add one extra tick per song for each 3s longer you want to delay wanderers

bc its a normally 2m cycle, but can be extended to up to 2:15 (2:12ish realistically bc you dont get a tick at zero)

[valid solar]

I see

[clear plume]

so if youd end a song at 11s left, if you hold it for 2s left, its 3 extra ticks of song and wanderers/2m pushed back 9s

then its a case of knowing wanderers is 42s long, so if its less than 22s before buffs go out, you can press wanderers and carry it into the buff window

(it can actually be better to do this with any slight delay even, because starting buffs with a 3 stack PP is better than armys muse damage is)

always send PP the gcd before you use buffs, and it will get 2 ticks and your start of buffs EA to force a 3 stack

this is why if you look at my logs and most high level bards, they actually use gauge at the start of buffs and dont barrage and sidewinder until about half way through it, so that they have extra weave windows earlier into it, a lot of the time its just to get a 4th heartbreak shot, but can also be good to get carryover/early use PPs

[jolly flume]

my brain is legit oozing out of my ears bro

this is the most boring shit I've ever done

[clear plume]

gz on pb

[jolly flume]

thanks

never want to do this again

[clear plume]

classic door parsing

you picked the dogshit lottery fight to start with

[jolly flume]

thats exactly why we did it first

because everyone needed a number on this garbage

[torn mesa]

peak fight right

[jolly flume]

yeah man

[clear plume]

brother my parse static isnt even DOING door bc of how much door parsing sucks

we have a "if you want a good run ask your buddy named party finder"

rule set for it

[jolly flume]

honestly respectable

[clear plume]

no sandbag lottery fight thats short?

gl

if we had double sam double drk maybe it would be worth it, but normal comps nah

Compared to a fight like 9 where you can rotate who kills adds, or 10 where buff timings can be fuckered with, or 11 where you can kill it instead of dying to ecliptic stampede for the 4th pull in a row

[torn mesa]

• striking dummy fight
• short and volatile
• actually filtered out the bad players who didn't clear 11

the clusterfuck shitstorm of a bad fight

[clear plume]

It is just a lottery fight, you kill it 100 times waiting for the 99th percentile crit run

Bc everybody killing 12 will have their own spins

Bc of it being a normal kt fight

Compared to 10 where good players not parsing instead don’t get that spin bc normal buff timings and the normal kt both screw them

[uncut pebble]

https://imgur.com/Nm1mC3L

[proven pivot]

What would make a player say m10s was easier than m9s for them

Cuz i’m doing m10s this weekend and i lowkey hope i find it the same

[jolly flume]

idk

I think that's a pretty big stretch

for any job/role

but that's just me

[proven pivot]

They’re a gnb one trick

Being a one trick in xiv is lowkey insane

[jolly flume]

I get it if they're like

exceptional

but most people aren't and playing one job only is just boring as shit to me

[proven pivot]

We started out around the same time (early mid 2025) and they cleared the tier

Lil ol’ me just cleared m9s

They’re doing TEA next… my god

But yeah i’m excited to do m10s but also dont want to get carried cuz i’m doing it with friends and they all cleared

Last time i played with this group they killed doomtrain as soon as the final phase started, my m9s reclear w them was also really quick

[tulip wraith]

damn is dt that fast now, might finally try farming for wings again

[quick verge]

i love door parsing

[jolly flume]

ain't you a wow main

wtf I lowkey wasn't sure if I was reading a linkedin post for the first half of this tweet

[sleek moon]

prob keeps dying to vamp stomp in 9

and eating every saw blade

[clear plume]

Vamp stomp is the hardest mech in this game so makes sense

[proven pivot]

No they’re really good

[proven pivot]

Real and true

[clear plume]

Eating saw blades is a healer mech tho

[rapid whale]

is this ozma

[jolly flume]

yea

[wind cypress]

joined a m9s the other day to get some practice on my healer, we cleared it - cool, then get a "ready?" pop, uh okay - they go in again, I check and yep bunch of 99 parsers rerunning it over and over, not advertised as a funny numbers group

[jolly flume]

yeah it's because they need a bot or two in the group to natty sandbag for the 8:30 lol

full group of good players is killing too fast to get a good parse

[rapid whale]

a tale as old as time

[craggy marsh]

See I want to be hype for BST but that content wont even be out until like...July?

[tame shuttle]

Bappol

[rapid whale]

aloo

[stiff sage]

every time i go to pf to prog i remember why i hate pf

rep 2 50% of the time means there's someone in there prog lying as fresh phase 2

[dapper zealot]

Wait wait hold the fuck up

He has children???????

?????????

[worn bluff]

@jolly flume wait they're making digital copies of people's souls in wuwa

we gotta stop them

i've seen how this story goes

[raw sand]

why is chiyo egyptian now

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ankha-animal-crossing-ankha-dance-vibe-cat-vibe-gif-23429487

[trim frost]

i swear to god

[dapper zealot]

I was tempted to post the other one

[craggy marsh]

[stiff sage]

.... oh wow nice cat

[raw sand]

[dapper zealot]

fuck I forgot I was capped on maths

[valid solar]

everyone in this party is a cat except for me

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[alpine plover]

miqo males no less

[grand mesa]

miau

[valid solar]

[dapper zealot]

meowthus

[valid solar]

I was helping with a fresh for 1 and the guy died to mortal slayer every time

Im not sure if any of their friends told them they were getting clipped because they were too close to the person in front of them

[alpine plover]

meowlysian

[worn bluff]

helloo reprisal?

[alpine plover]

dramatic kisses

[tepid briar]

what in the fuck was going on here

[tired egret]

the Healer designed to do DPS for Healing can't do DPS

lmfao

[tepid briar]

no wonder the shielding was really good that party

[tired egret]

ah

[tepid briar]

cause that's all they were doing lmao

[tired egret]

on one hand... nice

did a good job as a healer

AT the cost of bad dps

[tepid briar]

more than bad...

[tired egret]

yeah

absolute trash tier

but I give credit for the healing work

[tepid briar]

this was m10

I'm not sure how they got past m9

[trim frost]

...

say it wasn't savage

pls

[tepid briar]

it was savage

:)

[trim frost]

oh my fucking god

[tired egret]

ok that is ass

[trim frost]

i mean technically you don't have to clear 9 to get to 10

[tired egret]

but minor credit for the healin

[trim frost]

only the party leader has to have access to 10

[tired egret]

keeping the homies alive is important

but you gotta press that fuckin' Dosis more often.

[tepid briar]

oh my god

[trim frost]

but like eukrasia spam isn't even good in fucking dungeons how did they even get into savage without knowing this

[tepid briar]

they only did 7k in m9

[trim frost]

blink

[wicked delta]

[tepid briar]

but their top two dps did >40k

[trim frost]

was this pf

[tepid briar]

so that's probably how they got past m9

[tepid briar]

yes

[trim frost]

ok well

[tepid briar]

this was a prog group but still

[trim frost]

at some point hopefully someone will call it out

bc thats like

one of the most blatant ways i could notice griefing lmao

[tepid briar]

tomestone says they did m9 in 30 pulls

[trim frost]

thats 30 pulls that were logged

[tepid briar]

yeah

anyway holy sheet

[valid solar]

[trim frost]

lobotomized individuals start cropping up in pf like a disease after like week 3

[valid solar]

mb

[tired egret]

thank god I don't interact with current endgame content yet...

[tepid briar]

I wonder if they came from wow

[tepid briar]

"prog ia2" and people be wiping on snake

need to find a c41 party tomorrow

[trim frost]

same as it ever was

[tired egret]

I instead..... god I hate the last phase of T9 & T9S....

[wicked delta]

Its okay people wipe on snaking even in reclears

[tepid briar]

people be wiping to the weirdest stuff

somehow someone on the fire side ended up in the water corner by sheer miracle

I think that pf we never got past bubble

[wicked delta]

I saw a whm dash into the death wall like 4 times for firesnaking

Wondered what was going on in their mind

[tepid briar]

I've only dashed into the death wall once for firesnaking

and that's cause I accidentally pressed dash before orienting myself

I was trying to dash through the puddles

[alpine plover]

Tobi Gates

[tepid briar]

c41 backwards from M12 would be crazy

[kind elm]

you ever giggle you ever see chortle you ev snort you ever see a mch wall it with lightning on TEA p2

[wicked delta]

Adrian Garu

[kind elm]

sorry i just remembered i had these gifs so i had to post them again

[alpine plover]

dasurved

[rapid whale]

mb im new

[rain geode]

Im basically new again at this point

[dapper zealot]

n'ew liter

[finite plank]

just press buttons

[dapper zealot]

press scathe? nw

[shadow pilot]

🔘

[rain geode]

Scathe? more like Sucksathe

gotem

[remote gate]

perfect legend btw

[spice path]

In truth. How much harder is ultimate? Ive tried dsr and I was kinda struggling. But I do savage okay.

[wicked delta]

Well DSR is one of the hardest ults so yeah you’ll struggle

[cerulean crown]

depends on the fight and depends on your skill. uwu is generally considered the easiest because it was the first, so it's had a ton of time for gear creep. but my first was FRU and working with guides it's simple, just learning the patterns and getting the execution right

[wicked delta]

It depends on the player cus ik some new people who took on DSR as their first ult (fresh out of msq) and did better than some long term savage raiders ive known

[versed kayak]

UCoB was the first, not UWU

[wicked delta]

A lot of ultimate mechanics can be simmed outside instance so if you’re willing to basically study the shit out of it then you’ll be aight

[versed kayak]

uwu is the easiest because it realistically has one real mechanic before P5 (which PF just cheats for), and P5 is the only phase that I'd consider to have ultimate mechanics

It's still an ultimate tho so it's still faster than savage

[spice path]

Everything was just so much faster it felt like. Like snapshots were insane.

[wicked delta]

Thats kinda the point lol

A lot of ultimate mechanics are like

[versed kayak]

Yeah that's the main thing for a lot of mechanics

[wicked delta]

You have to resolve it way ahead of time

Before the attack goes off

[versed kayak]

You could put some of them in savage if you slowed them down a bit

[wicked delta]

Bc the attack goes off near instantly once the time comes

[spice path]

Bleh. On 100 ping it really sucked. But I know people do it on higher. So its my brain lol

[cerulean crown]

ngl i forgot ucob was first lol

[versed kayak]

just need to be really quick at reading mechanics, or learn to anticipate them

[dapper zealot]

If you only 'kinda struggled' that's pretty decent tbh. Just gotta keep going at it

[spice path]

But like. My savage static this tier was full of people who did ulti. And there was mechs they struggled with that i got... so idk. Maybe I'd be willing to try the easier ones? Maybe.
My reaction time on hunt trains for teleports is amazing lol if only that transferred.

[rapid whale]

like most t hings in life its just a matter of repetition and time commitment

[dapper zealot]

How long have you been progging it?

[jolly flume]

[rapid whale]

played these games before

[jolly flume]

hi bappo

[verbal whale]

name something more sus than a monday m11 reclear

[grand mesa]

Monday night m9 reclear

[jolly flume]

white mage player with matching surname

[grand mesa]

What surname...

[wicked delta]

Nightstar?

[grand mesa]

oh...

[finite plank]

generic sofia and generic star

[rapid whale]

any wins yesterday

[finite plank]

there's going to be someone named dawnstar

[clear plume]

That’s not a name that’s a Skyrim

[finite plank]

so is hrothgar

[clear plume]

Okay but that’s just both named after an old danish king so that’s explainable

[jolly flume]

me and jon got decent ranks everyone else is still spinning the crit wheel

[rapid whale]

when i saw i had 7 percentile crit luck i knew it was jover

https://klipy.com/gifs/raxdflipnote-meme

[finite plank]

least you got into single digit percentile

[rapid whale]

no that's the opposite of what you want

unless you mean it in a "statistically unlikely so technically lucky" kinda way

[valid solar]

bottom 7% not top

[finite plank]

hey, you can only go up from there

[valid solar]

I guess

[rapid whale]

i mean ive 99'd the fight before

but that was in a random pf setting with unoptimized buff feed

[finite plank]

be the 0 and the 99 or higher

[rapid whale]

that's not how math works

[finite plank]

...i still remember being 0 for m3s

up or down, plenty of funny to happen

[rapid whale]

ya

[versed kayak]

Pretty normal to be honest, there's always mechanics that you'll understand faster than others and vice versa

If you wanna try one for real do TEA imo, it's fun and not too difficult

[rapid whale]

also "someone who cleared an ultimate struggled with a mech i got easily" is kind of a bad metric

everyone has strengths and weaknesses

[versed kayak]

I still can't read the first mech of the last sildihn criterion boss for the life of me

that and the last half of statice are the few boss mechs I still struggle with (although I haven't done statice much)

[lyric summit]

there's no skill diff between clearing a savage tier and clearing an ult, only a time/group commitment diff

[wicked delta]

Im pretty okay with mechanics that just go fast (think shit like m8s ig) but memory mechanics absolutely fail me

[jolly flume]

the difference between those who clear savage and those who clear ultimate is mental

[rapid whale]

most people tilt themselves out of ulti ye

you either accept the result isnt up to you and develop patience or smadge

[wicked delta]

I don’t have the patience to sit in pf for like 3-5 hr, get a party that kinda sucks at getting to prog point and disbanding

But I am gonna try DSR again with some buddies so maybe that’ll motivate me more to clear it

[lyric summit]

oh yeah

the difference between those who clear ultimate in static and those who clear ultimate in pf is also mental ||illness||

[rapid whale]

theres also the whole like

in general way more time invested in pf

but a bad static it might legit be impossible due to schedule or attitude etc

like in pf you will clear, eventually

but a bad static can legit just never clear

example

[jolly flume]

pf ulti for prog isnt that bad ngl

[grand mesa]

Attitude and ability to learn from mistakes are the two biggest barriers

[jolly flume]

good luck reclearing though

[grand mesa]

erm

I spent 12 hours total in top p2 prog with my partner a few weeks ago and we only got to the prog point several times

It's cooked, I fear

[finite plank]

dc diff'd

[jolly flume]

early top is prog hell

rest of the time I've had decent success helping people by just prog lying a reasonable amount and leaving parties that are done for early though

[wicked delta]

That many pulls into P3 is kinda cursed

[rapid whale]

yea like

bad static worse than bad pf

[fierce matrix]

Bad static gives sunk cost fallacy

[rapid whale]

ye

[fierce matrix]

Bad pf I just kick the mfs or leave myself

[rapid whale]

exactly

[fierce matrix]

You just gotta know when to cut your losses with people. And thats not "OH WE WIPED 3 TIMES TO HELLO WORLD IN A ROW AFTER WIPING TO THE PROG POINT"

But if its the same person fucking it up

That's when you might need to kick em

[jolly flume]

ngl

my bar is 3-4 pulls to prog point or I'm gone

I do not have the time of day

[fierce matrix]

Matters the instance of whats going on

[jolly flume]

but even after like the first two pulls

you can already spidey sense if the party is gonna be shit or not

[fierce matrix]

If some chuckle fuck is causing car crashes in hello world almost every pull

I kick em

[rapid whale]

accountability is a big one for me

if the person who fucked up doesnt immediately mb i get very ??

like, "does this person even know the mech?"

[jolly flume]

it doesn't even matter if it's the same person over and over, one majorly inconsistent bum has the same effects on your prog as 7 minorly inconsistent bums

[rapid whale]

"do they realize it's their faut we just wiped?"

type shit

[fierce matrix]

But if its just genuinely like we are at delta prog but someone fucked up monitors cause they got John final fantasied and then someone else fucks up hello world cause of just not knowing peoples movement and then its a looper wipe cause classic

Im not really stressed out about it

Because p4 isnt an actual prog point

[jolly flume]

that's what I meant when I said

you can tell if the party is gonna be shit

just from the stupidity level of the wipes

no matter how many

[fierce matrix]

Yeah if its 5 looper wipes

Time to reform

Or atleast kick the dumbass whos causing it

Another big thing in pf is knowing when to kick the problem person

Its what allows me to see final phases in pf savage during week 1

[amber fable]

Mb I am new

[fierce matrix]

Ik

Its okay

[rapid whale]

dam

but yea lots of ppl think they like raiding but they like the fights

that isnt to say i love the pf culture per se but like they fucking hate hate hate it

[jolly flume]

I know tomestoning is a controversial topic but I will absolutely die on the hill that people aren't aggressive enough with it

the combination of pfradar and tomestone probably saved me like 50 hours all told when I was doing fru fun runs

both in terms of dodging bad parties and in terms of kicking people who are clearly unreliable

[rapid whale]

im guilty of not being aggressive enough with it once in the party

[finite plank]

it's controversial to people that usually suck at the game

[jolly flume]

exactly

[fierce matrix]

Ngl I love it and hate it

Cause people like me can prog skip lol

[amber fable]

One trick to raid is to skip floors if you're hard stuck on one ngl...it sounds dumb as you wont get ilvl but loot in pug is rng anyway, might as well prog new floor and then clear old floor in reclears eventually

[fierce matrix]

Other people cannot

Like my m4s clear

[jolly flume]

yeah but how much of the pf population do people like us make up lol

[fierce matrix]

My gf and I prog skipped from EE1 to a sunrise party never even seeing EE2

Or p2 for that matter

And we one shot to that

W1 btw

[jolly flume]

I'd rather take the L on prog lying for myself for the general quality of my parties to go up

which it notably does

[fierce matrix]

Idk

The issue ive seen is that people just look at %

And not if they actually did the mechanic properly

[jolly flume]

that's why I said people aren't aggressive enough with it

[fierce matrix]

My parties have gotten significantly worse

Because of that

[wind cypress]

most people prog lie in my opinion, that's why every PF is weapons prog

because they don't want to play with scrubs? I don't know

[amber fable]

Just dont suck yourself

[fierce matrix]

Id say the last two years have had some of the worst parties ive ever been in, in regards to PF

[amber fable]

Cant control others

[jolly flume]

if you really take your time with tomestone you can determine almost anything about a player's consistency and play that you'd want to know

[amber fable]

Kick or reform

Thems the option

Most do latter

[wind cypress]

I speed through prog but lots of times you're just chillin until you make next prog point which can take forever because 7 other people have to be good enough

[fierce matrix]

The issue with tomestone is now they think they saw a % or saw a mech they feel they can join those parties

[jolly flume]

hence, again, people aren't aggressive enough with it

[fierce matrix]

And the people who are actually confident in it who haven't seen past it can skip it

[jolly flume]

it doesn't mean shit that you have a % on your page

[fierce matrix]

And I think more people who are confident but cant get a party to do it exist to be helpful more than what tomestone brings

Like I had a friend who setup a DSR clear party

Bro hadn't seen p6

He cleared in 3 pulls

Its more common than you think

[jolly flume]

why would I not think that it's all in a sim since 6.55 lol

[fierce matrix]

This guy's first savage clear was this tier

[jolly flume]

that doesn't mean I'd like to gamble my time on that

[wind cypress]

general rule of thumb, if you don't see prog point in say 3 - 5 pulls just dip, group clearly isn't ready

[jolly flume]

because for every person who does that another 10 people are paying for a c41 that they won't have to shell out for because it's basically just fake p7 prog for them

seen it so many times

[fierce matrix]

Id rather gamble my time on that than gamble my time on a guy with a p7 % once tbh

[wind cypress]

"mb that was my fault" x 5 from different people = who boy going to be awhile lol xD

[fierce matrix]

Feels like the same thing

[jolly flume]

you'd rather gamble your time on a doth pull than a p7 pull given only that information?

I sure wouldn't

even sausage roll the ceo of clearing terrorists, bless his soul, required cauterize

[fierce matrix]

I truly think there are a lot of people in this game that are held back by PF parties and that tomestone has made their experience worse and in turn the other consistent people's time worse because they are stuck in earlier parties

[jolly flume]

I don't

I think most of the people who blame pf for their failings are simply externalizing

[fierce matrix]

I 100% disagree. Ik many people who can do a mechanic first time no fuck ups

Like for instance

[jolly flume]

I have never once seen a good player stuck in pf for significantly longer than they should be

a truly good player

[fierce matrix]

If I wanna join an idyllic dream party but I died to the aoe after rep 2 and ive been consistently doing rep 2 right

[jolly flume]

because sooner or later they will find the other good players

[fierce matrix]

Should I have to join a bloody mana party

I sure as fuck think no one should ever need to join a bloody mana party if youve gotten that far in the tier

[jolly flume]

that's not a tomestone problem, that's a people think blood mana is a real mechanic problem

which maybe it is for some people idk lol

[fierce matrix]

But the issue stems from your tomestone % not being 50%

[jolly flume]

and again

that's a problem with people not looking far enough into tomestone

not a problem with tomestone

as I've said

[fierce matrix]

The issue is you aren't going to get even 10% of the people to look that deep into tomestone

[amber fable]

Its a presentation issue

[fierce matrix]

You cant teach reading it

[amber fable]

Nobody has time to dig into every log

For every party

[fierce matrix]

Its not even a presentation issue. People just dont know what to look for. And you arent going to get people to look at it properly

[jolly flume]

what are you talking about

you're sitting in pf for 30 minutes you can read a log

it is not a time issue

people just don't know how to and don't bother to learn

in the same vein as how people only see the funny number on ffl

[fierce matrix]

I think just removing tomestone entirely is a much quicker and easier fix than expecting everyone to learn how to read logs properly

And realistic fix

[jolly flume]

idk man I remember endwalker ulti pf and I would like to never go back to that tyvm

[fierce matrix]

Thats also cause ultis weren't like FRU

I feel like if we had a TOP difficulty ulti instead of FRU youd have pretty much the same experience

To prog that is

[amber fable]

One thing I realise is best way to raid is not to do it in pf

[fierce matrix]

Idk pf raiding has always been my crutch

[amber fable]

I still pf but man I dont stay a lot now

[fierce matrix]

Done it for many tiers

[amber fable]

Week 1 final floor

[fierce matrix]

Thats how i get a lot of my w1 stuff done

[amber fable]

Yeah

Better quality

It dips out though

[fierce matrix]

Thats still PF

[grand mesa]

Most of those 12 hours was spent waiting for pfs to fill

[fierce matrix]

You just have to do it right

[jolly flume]

out of the probably 50+ parties that I took a chance on in fru pf last patch

one of them cleared

the ones that I tomestone vetted with good players I knew

about 20

iunno, there was probably a good player or two that I dodged in there somewhere

but 99% of the time if they don't look like a good player it's because they aren't one

[fierce matrix]

I mean the other thing is if you are running your parties or not

Like if I'm running a party

Im looking at shit

If im not running a party, I dont get the choice to kick

[jolly flume]

I don't even host most of the time but I use cousin radar to pick and choose who I join in the first place

off patch fru PF had 90% parties with grey/green medians and bests

[fierce matrix]

Ive had people message me asking to get out of the progpoint hell, I view their logs and see that they arent the problem and let em in

[jolly flume]

it was horrendous

[fierce matrix]

But the fact that I can do it doesnt mean that others can

[jolly flume]

we did almost exclusively c41s

[fierce matrix]

85% uptime

[grand mesa]

mb

[fierce matrix]

My PCT was so ass that wed joke about her going up from a 1 to a 2 parse

And how each kill she'd go up 1 parse %

[jolly flume]

we had a whole thing going on about guessing how many exaflare deaths people were going to have with a p5 enrage party up

[grand mesa]

I never got a good fru parse because it never really mattered to me

I banked shit for the phases that mattered and cleared

[fierce matrix]

Just play pct

Free kill

[jolly flume]

I joined a party with one guy in my pf that had single digit greys in every clear and was always bitching in fc chat about how pf was griefing him once

you wouldn't believe

who caused most of the problems

[fierce matrix]

Not saying those people dont exist

But ive also met equally just as good raiders hindered by pf

Then there are shitters who are shit who know they are shit

Which is fine we gotta start somewhere

[jolly flume]

sure there's people who can prog lie successfully but they are so severely outnumbered by people who think they're better than pf when they are not that I am not willing to take that chance from a a purely statistical standpoint

look at this channel

if I speak big trouble

[fierce matrix]

Ik who

Its me

Im the problem

[jolly flume]

true...

[fierce matrix]

Hey

[amber fable]

Mb...Didnt had to call me out

[fierce matrix]

I got a 100 parse for speed on the new crit

[grand mesa]

[fierce matrix]

[jolly flume]

I haven't even done it yet

[fierce matrix]

There was also only 2 parses on GNB day 1

[jolly flume]

supposedly we start next week

[wicked delta]

Just @ me next time

[jolly flume]

motivation at an all time low though

[wicked delta]

😔

[fierce matrix]

[fierce matrix]

Ngl im doing an aloalo savage static and helping people with top

Im fucking booked out and ready to be busy

[amber fable]

Where new content

[jolly flume]

I was gonna ask how the fuck you got a 31:55 log

and then I remembered savage ain't like that anymore

gg

[grand mesa]

I'm playing deadlock

[jolly flume]

I miss her

[amber fable]

Savage dont exist either

[jolly flume]

I'm playing ace combat 7

[amber fable]

Its just plain old crit

[wicked delta]

Its snowing right now and we are in march

[grand mesa]

I love not having to sit in a pf for 6 hours just to disband in 30 minutes.

[wicked delta]

????

[grand mesa]

earth throwing a tantrum

[amber fable]

Middle East causing weather changes from them smoke

[grand mesa]

truly the world we live in

[fierce matrix]

Yeah they pussified it

Shits stupid

[jolly flume]

it was like 70 degrees a week ago and then 20 before windchill the day I had to do grave visitation stuff because chinese people

weather be wildin

[fierce matrix]

Oh did i tell chat about the guy who was messaging me about getting better and then refused to get better cause his "aoe looked cool"

[finite plank]

least i get to travel to a mausoleum

[grand mesa]

Ice mage

me press blizzard 4

[jolly flume]

yea we drive two hours out to a field on a hill

[jolly flume]

at least there's roast pig to make up for it

[fierce matrix]

Bro asks me how to get better

And asks for tips all the time

Yet tells me this

[grand mesa]

I should get some lechon

[jolly flume]

tell him to get on the low blow off cd grind

if he's that bored

[amber fable]

Interject

And using rep at cd

[wicked delta]

It really is

I was filming outside and it was kinda shit weather

5 minutes later the sun is so bright its blinding

Now theres snow and hail

????

[vestal hollow]

you too?

[wicked delta]

Now its back to being bright and sunny

[grand mesa]

parts of my tropical country have been snowing on some months when it would have been unprecedented 5 years ago

[wicked delta]

I do not Understand

[zealous meteor]

man i love climate change

(i don't

[amber fable]

I love it when its not fucking season up

[jolly flume]

we got like two feet of snow in march this year

when it hasn't snowed that much in probably a decade let alone in march

too much shoveling

[amber fable]

Winters in april

Summers in december

[pearl folio]

California baby, it’s been feeling like severe global warming since the tectonic plates broke apart😎😂 Beach living

[grand mesa]

The hotter months have been scorching for us

[jolly flume]

bapple told me it was like 70 degrees in cali in the dead of winter a few months ago and it broke my brain a little

[grand mesa]

40 celcius and high humidity is not fun

[wicked delta]

Im super bad with hot weather so not looking forward to getting cooked this summer

(Again)

[grand mesa]

Agonizing, even

[wicked delta]

At least I have AC in the house this time

[pearl folio]

Oh my lord, it was like 95 degrees the other day… considering it’s (sorta) been winter.. thought I was gonna boil alive😭

[rapid whale]

i feel u

[pearl folio]

No AC?! Ohhhh no😂

[rapid whale]

socal on fire

[wicked delta]

Didn’t need AC for the longest time

[wicked delta]

Until last year

I open up my pc

[grand mesa]

[wicked delta]

Suddenly it gets super fucking hot outside

I literally fainted in my bedroom

💀

[pearl folio]

104!! Miserable! I like how you realized none of us knew Celsius, appreciate the conversion😂🤘🏻

[jolly flume]

I would not survive

without an AC

[rapid whale]

hopefully it's not so hot during fanfest

[grand mesa]

It's okay, I don't know Fahrenheit either

Sometimes I see baking instructions

[rapid whale]

"numbers too high, must be f"

[grand mesa]

Check the heat they tell me to set the oven and ask myself if the writer is fucking crazy

Then I realize they're probably american

[pearl folio]

104 C for like a child’s temperature would suck lol

[jolly flume]

not even because it's spectacularly hot where I live, I just can't stand being above like 85f

and when I turn on my pc it's like being baked alive

[true beacon]

@round burrow https://youtu.be/cjxd1O8K2GI?si=5OLt9t6zhKz1ANRC

[wicked delta]

I didn’t raid last summer because turning on my pc was like

Self harm

😭

[grand mesa]

I've been limiting my fps and turning down settings

[pearl folio]

Lol!

[grand mesa]

Turns out 200 watts is a lot less heat than 400

Big surprise, I know

[jolly flume]

lowkey I'm thinking about moving my pc into the living room and just streaming it to my room

[pearl folio]

I have a motorcycle and every summer, whenever you’re parked.. it tries to commit suicide..

Parked and running motorcycle = Temperature multiplier

[slender lichen]

must be nice in the winter tho

[grand mesa]

Some guy I know has his pc out in another room and just runs all of his cables to his room

[pearl folio]

I live by the mountains also.. yes this winter was sooo nice🥲

[deep gale]

I haven't gotten around to actually trying it but I've thought about just putting my computer in another room and running a thunderbolt cable through the wall.

[wicked delta]

My heating is still broken im gonna sue someone

[deep gale]

The problem is I'd have to figure out the multiple monitors and I'm lazy

[wicked delta]

The weather is so crazy I have to actively care about how cold it gets in the house

Sadgi

[jolly flume]

yeah that's tech, there's only one wall separating me from the living room too so I'd only need to put one hole in the wall and run some cable tracks

[deep gale]

I think that theoretically you could do it with one thunderbolt fiber cable but if it's not a super long run you could also just run multiple cables.

[wicked delta]

My living room is too far away from my bedroom to be able do something like that sadly

[vestal hollow]

im omw ill be ur heated blankey

[wicked delta]

[grand mesa]

You can stream using steam link if your home network is good enough

But you'll need both endpoints connected to ethernet if you want anything close to a decent experience

[rapid whale]

adding input delay on top of high ping sounds like a mistake for anything online

[grand mesa]

The ping isn't bad if you have it set up properly

[jolly flume]

it's not really that bad esp on a local network

[grand mesa]

Throughput and stability depends on your hardware

If you have a shitty router mediating between both devices, it's going to feel miserable

[jolly flume]

like even geforce now is sub 50 round trip for my friend

and that's halfway across the continental US for him

[rapid whale]

cloud gaming rly gonna be the future at this rate huh

[jolly flume]

they want it to be

[deep gale]

Yeah pinging my home server from work is like 8ms I could stream something in the house with no issue

[jolly flume]

because then they can charge us forever for things we can't own

[rapid whale]

fren's tinfoil hat theory is stuff like ram/gpu getting so expensive is to make the idea of streamed gaming more acceptable

yea

[clear plume]

I don’t think it’s happening to make that idea more acceptable, it’s kind of chicken before the egg there

[grand mesa]

Ram and gpus are just expensive because they can charge that much and get away with it.

[rapid whale]

i'll egg your chicken

[grand mesa]

It's a monopoly

[rapid whale]

and then coat it panko

[deep gale]

Datacenter components have always been higher return for hardware companies; servers and datacenters have priority and so there's just no supply and everything sucks.

[pearl folio]

Honestly this whole connection issue is why I switched from PC to PS5… I got tired of my PC running great for like 1-2 years and then needing upgrades.. but not knowing if it’s hardware or connection

[jolly flume]

everything sucks

light it up let's go...

[clear plume]

It’s just more profitable to make ai right now, so consumers get a back foot

We aren’t about to see stadia 2 launch

[grand mesa]

I'm glad I got my ram upgrade when 32 gigs cost 50 bucks

[pearl folio]

What?! Lol. Temu? Lol jk

[jolly flume]

I remmeber when a 1080ti was like $600

[grand mesa]

A few years ago

[jade nimbus]

Tbf silver lining is that ram price is also about to drop

[grand mesa]

[clear plume]

My drg bought new ram last raid day and I told him I can mail him a stick of 48gb and he can save $500

[deep gale]

The 32gb ddr4 ram I put in my server for $50 now costs $200 its so cooked

[grand mesa]

It's going to drop from 500% from what it was a year ago to 400%, woah!!!

[jade nimbus]

Trueee

[jolly flume]

I'm probably not upgrading for another two years which happens to coincide with when I (might) be able to actually find a job in this market

[jade nimbus]

But we'll see

[jolly flume]

[rapid whale]

I'm still in 16gb like a peasant

[grand mesa]

16 gigs is fine, I'm just irresponsible with managing what I run on my pc

[jade nimbus]

It won't go back to original prices, but even it goes back to just twice as expansive I'll take the win I guess

[grand mesa]

And I also stream from time to time

... Well

Used to.

[clear plume]

Bapple do u want me to mail u 48 Gb of ram (you need to be able to use ddr5 ram on processor and motherboard side)

[deep gale]

I genuinely got so lucky because I built my current computer early 2024 so everything wasn't as terrible for crypto and it was before the AI takeoff.

[rapid whale]

I don't think I can lol I'm on a 5600 which I think is ddr4

[jolly flume]

I snagged my 4070ti at launch for a good price and everything else was basically a scam

ram wasn't that terrible ig it was "only" $120 for 32

[clear plume]

Is that a six core cpu in 2026

[grand mesa]

The worst part about all of this is that server ram and the gpus used for AI are all useless for most people

[rapid whale]

Sorry for being broke

[grand mesa]

Don't be elitist.

[deep gale]

dude my computer keeps going up in value it's not supposed to do that

[jolly flume]

almost as fucked as the housing market !

[grand mesa]

So when everything crashes and gets liquidated, nothing of use will be left behind

[deep gale]

hahaha (crying)

[rapid whale]

We're going to melt down servers for gold come the next stone age

[grand mesa]

Truly

[rapid whale]

IDK if it's real but I heard it we actually do get sent back to the stone age because of war or whatever there isn't enough iron on the surface for another iron age to happen

[grand mesa]

I'm not going to think about it

[rapid whale]

Mb

[zealous meteor]

we're not getting sent back to the stone age anyway

[clear plume]

We realistically won’t just get sent back to a Stone Age lmao

[grand mesa]

My body hurts and I can't afford to buy myself comfort chicken tenders

[clear plume]

That’s not how technology works

[glossy marsh]

We'll go back to the first industrial revolution

[rapid whale]

I heard chimps are officially in the stone age now

[jolly flume]

chimps are kinda op

[rapid whale]

Seen using stone spears or something

[jolly flume]

if the chimp test is anything to go by

[rapid whale]

Those tests bodied me

[grand mesa]

We're just hairless chimps that learned how to talk

[jolly flume]

they'd make great osu +hd players

[glossy marsh]

at any moment they discover fire

[rapid whale]

All words are made up

[glossy marsh]

amen

[grand mesa]

am I a real person?

[rapid whale]

Is a taco a sandwich

[jolly flume]

funny little people in my computer

[glossy marsh]

rené descartes: yes

[grand mesa]

what if I've been a hallucinating rogue llm instance hosted on some datacenter somewhere

[wicked delta]

Id like to think so bc you’re nice

[clear plume]

You’re all just numbers on a screen to me

[grand mesa]

Awh

ty tobi

[rapid whale]

Nuh uh I'm the warrior of light

[jolly flume]

what's my number

it's 67 isn't it

[clear plume]

I get to go to a pub with parse friend soon tho I learnt he’s in the same city

[grand mesa]

Six s-

[jolly flume]

..

[glossy marsh]

we are like, binary numbers?

[rapid whale]

01010111100101011010110101010101100111010101100101

[wicked delta]

Six SEVENTEEN thats your number

[zealous meteor]

oh are we exchanging serial numbers /s

[daring pine]

tobi

behave

[jolly flume]

I found a bar called roku nana in my city

[glossy marsh]

nu uh

[jolly flume]

that I'm going to with my staticmate

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[clear plume]

I was going to make a joke of going “SCH-your fflogs number here” and looked it up but

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/hoshimachi-suisei-suisei-hololive-vtuber-vtubers-gif-4730114313075901600

[grand mesa]

The only binary thing about me is the number i have of ur mother

[glossy marsh]

https://giphy.com/gifs/minecraft-steve-67-6LkqKOn3RSfvBB5vSu

[clear plume]

He is 67….

[jolly flume]

no fucking way

hahahah

[dapper zealot]

Lmao

[jolly flume]

I am the 6 7

[dapper zealot]

67iyo

[glossy marsh]

six seven

[rapid whale]

Do you think given enough time, 67 is going to change meaning into like, "that's ducking stupid" so instead of saying that sentence you just say 67 and it's implied

[wicked delta]

Six sevennnn

[grand mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tongue-out-flight-flight-reacts-cat-tongue-gif-5336416477717479720

[glossy marsh]

the new PI number

[wicked delta]

I think we should all get lobotomized

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/tokai-teio-umamusume-uma-67-six-seven-gif-8590503484787777614

[grand mesa]

I've lost my mind eons ago

[glossy marsh]

noooooooo teio D:

[grand mesa]

My whimsy is all I have left

[dapper zealot]

It's going to get skibidi'd

[visual geyser]

Damn

[clear plume]

No, 67 is going to stay where it’s at as a joke that’s so unfunny that it horseshoes back around to being ironically enjoyed

[visual geyser]

21 > 67

[glossy marsh]

The best number is 3

[rapid whale]

67 is a government psy op change my mind

[clear plume]

The government is too incompetent for that

[dapper zealot]

We need the return of 69

[visual geyser]

Real

Let’s bring it back

[rapid whale]

Fuck you got me

[jolly flume]

idk

the kirk psyop sure worked

[visual geyser]

619 > 69

[rapid whale]

HONOUUUU KAKAEE

[glossy marsh]

13.1415 >>>>>

[visual geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/rey-mysterio-619-chris-jericho-wwe-the-bash-gif-24849136

[rapid whale]

666

[jolly flume]

fukuin mamori...

[glossy marsh]

the diablo

[rapid whale]

We miss the old Diablo

[glossy marsh]

way too red for me

[zealous meteor]

oh boy purpleslop

[glossy marsh]

and the other 8 solution?

[wicked delta]

Looks more blueish to me honestly

[jolly flume]

nothing purple is slop

purple is gem

[glossy marsh]

or gem is purple

[visual geyser]

Dogshit

Damn this game sucks

Let’s play pso2 new genesis?

[glossy marsh]

pso2?

[jolly flume]

hello kitty island adventure

[wicked delta]

This would be a great game if I could make out with my wol sloppy style

[zealous meteor]

return to final fantasy xi

[wicked delta]

But I am an artist so I could draw it

[glossy marsh]

club penguin

[grand mesa]

I'm ace

[visual geyser]

Drawing ff14

How tf do you do that shit

[wicked delta]

When are we playing overcooked

[grand mesa]

But i think it'd be cool if my characters kissed

[visual geyser]

Every piece of gear has 500 layers of detail

[glossy marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844230986870947851/1274448495830503547/bruhflipexplode.gif

[visual geyser]

Ff artist are insane

[zealous meteor]

are you saying that ace people can't kiss sloppy style???? cancelling you

[grand mesa]

Waiting for the google doccy

[glossy marsh]

in the artistic sense or in the psychological sense?

[visual geyser]

Both

[wicked delta]

I am also okay with my wols kissing each other

[grand mesa]

I do have three or so ocs I pose being intimate when I'm really bored and want to play doll

[jolly flume]

my wol should kiss halmarut

[grand mesa]

I just think it's cute

[visual geyser]

Like bro I ain’t drawing this shit

[wicked delta]

Become an artist and draw it

[visual geyser]

Fk outta here man

[glossy marsh]

i'm scared 🗿

[visual geyser]

I wanna draw Sphene

[wicked delta]

I have like 4 ocs I really like drawing

[visual geyser]

Her design looks so annoying

💔 💔 💔

[wicked delta]

One some of my friends have seen

The others not really

[grand mesa]

Do you draw for gil perchance..

mb

[wicked delta]

Depends on the gil being offered 😔

[glossy marsh]

it remembers me Angel Notes

or a power ranger

[grand mesa]

What are thy rates for a sketch..

[round burrow]

I do /j

[grand mesa]

[jolly flume]

I kinda wanna get a chibi done of my main to throw on tomestone

my alt already has one

[glossy marsh]

i want a teio

[zealous meteor]

chibi of your main? so a lalafell? /s

[wicked delta]

High as fuck bc I have so many projects to get done

[jolly flume]