endgame-lounge

[clear plume]

yeah idk what you even want anymore if you like pct

[vast jacinth]

lmaoo

[fiery jewel]

not really a pct fan

[quick verge]

lowkey I think you need a subscription to world of warcraft

[worn bluff]

long GCD rolls like motifs are kind of interesting

[jolly flume]

look at this chud job man

[rapid whale]

ngl actually yes

[vast jacinth]

i heard wow midnight is good , go for it

[jolly flume]

34.7cpm

[fiery jewel]

I got faith in yoshida and nomura

dw

[rapid whale]

hikari seems like they would pref wow combat to xiv based on whats been said

not even in a shady way

just genuinely

[jolly flume]

thats why I said

[fiery jewel]

I mean you right

[jolly flume]

install wow

[fiery jewel]

everything else I prefer xiv tho for the most part

[dull drum]

i heard wows popping recently

[quick verge]

im making a roster for 5 m+ statics

join

[fiery jewel]

If I want great pve combat I just play PoE or smth

[rapid whale]

???

poe is effectively just hitting the "spin" button on a slot machine

what good combat

[quick verge]

LOL

[dreamy whale]

[fiery jewel]

depends if you like genre

[vast jacinth]

this made me laugh

[fiery jewel]

but lol ye

[rapid whale]

there are even builds you dont even have to hit the spin button and it plays itself

wat

[jolly flume]

no wonder my gacha friends all play that shit

[vast jacinth]

idle poe

[rapid whale]

fr

[dreamy whale]

Bro I already struggle to double weave during mechanics if I had to insert another ogcd I’d die

[fiery jewel]

that's the point though

[rapid whale]

ok but have you considered you are potential moo

[fiery jewel]

a failure state

[dreamy whale]

True

[rapid whale]

idk

like

i get what you're asking for

[worn bluff]

may i introduce you to DRG

ogcd whack a mole

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-city-nispee-nation-resident-evil-oblock-obby-propeller-hat-gif-3956573776064897924

[rapid whale]

im just saying i think that's the complete opposite trajectory of what se has put out for the last 3? expansions

[fiery jewel]

drg is just game on easy mode atp

genuinely a easier job than vpr

[dreamy whale]

I play warrior because it’s completely vibes based

[worn bluff]

idk i find it pretty engaging on 2 target

[fiery jewel]

if u have to pick who u cleave I can see it

[worn bluff]

double dot on insane air is fun

[jolly flume]

saying any job easier than vpr is thermonuclear take

thats just saying shit

ngl

[rapid whale]

pray not gaze into thine analysis

[fiery jewel]

I genuinely think it tbh

[dreamy whale]

I just press shit when it comes up and it works

[rapid whale]

wdym "it works"

you ahvent done any content

[fiery jewel]

I agree VPR is probably a worse designed job

[rapid whale]

not even an extreme

[dreamy whale]

[fiery jewel]

than DRG

but DRG is probably easier if you actually play it

[dreamy whale]

Unm

Origenics

[fiery jewel]

lol

[vast jacinth]

bapple burn activated

[rapid whale]

"A job becomes easier once learned" is a wat take

[fiery jewel]

but is drg hard to learn

[worn bluff]

idk like vpr has a bunch of ogcds too but they're.... all the same exact button

[naive leaf]

sips apple juice

[fiery jewel]

idk it's all subjective

[rapid whale]

it's not even a burn @vast jacinth bro told us all he'd be doing hw etc and they arent even done w/ msq

[dreamy whale]

Liar

[rapid whale]

yeah? you did train ?

[fiery jewel]

but I think EW Dragoon was a legitimate job and this version is just a completely neutered version

[trim frost]

remember when you said you were gonna prog m9s today

[dreamy whale]

Im done with base msq

[rapid whale]

remember when you said you were gonna clear the entire tier in 4 days before reset

[dreamy whale]

[worn bluff]

i felt like vpr was the easiest melee to me

[dreamy whale]

Yea I overestimatedged

[fiery jewel]

maybe it's more like

[trim frost]

vpr is bar none the easiest melee and thinking otherwise is silly

[fiery jewel]

for the value you get out of dragoon compared to vpr

[jolly flume]

I'm curious when the last time you opened the game is

ngl

[fiery jewel]

it's jut an easier job

[dreamy whale]

Today

[worn bluff]

it has no cooldowns to manage other than serpent ire and vicewinder

[fiery jewel]

but drg rotation is extremely easy

if you actually play it

[vast jacinth]

oh

[fiery jewel]

almost zero failure state

[worn bluff]

its gauge management is usually "i have too much gauge"

[dreamy whale]

I hit 100 on warrior this morning

[rapid whale]

if ima be so fr

[fiery jewel]

we can't even say DRG is the tight burst job anymore

[rapid whale]

this is reading more like a "im so good at this gaaaaaaaaame" humble brag

[fiery jewel]

because ninja and samurai fit that vibe

[quick verge]

play a real job

[vast jacinth]

finish msq , and go ex trials moo

[rapid whale]

ik thats prob not what hikari is going for but thats what it reads like to me

[fiery jewel]

cool ig?

[dreamy whale]

Im doing the patch msq stuff so I can unlock thomas the train engine

[dull drum]

i got a 67 parse on m12s thoughts team

[trim frost]

that’s what i’m seeing too

[vast jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172737854468788286/1446526015257055294/meme.gif

[dreamy whale]

I need the ex axe for ma crafted bis

[whole estuary]

give it Snake Scales from pvp and make it generate 10 gauge upon being hit

[trim frost]

just kinda saying words without really having a point

[fiery jewel]

so if we say VPR is extremely easy

that's justified

but DRG it's not

[rapid whale]

is this eu cooly

[vast jacinth]

you going for crafted Bis where tomes

[trim frost]

lowkey

kinda

[worn bluff]

i'm not really sure how you define this though bc every job technically has failure states

i can say vpr has zero failure state but it's kind of a vague statement

[dreamy whale]

I have 400

And I already did all my roulettes today

[fiery jewel]

ye

[vast jacinth]

i fear thats not enough

[rapid whale]

(cherry they have been level 100/done with msq for like, weeks and only have 400)

[dreamy whale]

Yea im

[rapid whale]

they deserve the bully

[vast jacinth]

cries

[worn bluff]

is drifting your cooldowns a failure state? is not getting all your ogcds off in burst a failure state?

[dreamy whale]

IVE BEEN LEVEL 100 ON BLM

[rapid whale]

okay and?

[vast jacinth]

moo i get not wanting to farm tomes

[rapid whale]

you can get tomes on any jobs

[vast jacinth]

but crafted bis

[dreamy whale]

I had to get warrior to 100 :c

[vast jacinth]

is worth shit in weeek 12

[whole estuary]

the game should make it more obvious what a failure state is by having a bunny appear on your head, like NIN

[dreamy whale]

[vast jacinth]

but the bunny is so cute

i love the bunny

[fiery jewel]

lol yeah

[worn bluff]

just let me permanently wear a bunny so everyone knows i'm a failure

[whole estuary]

bunny is a dps gain in my heart

[random needle]

BLM fail state is the thing they mention in the job quests where you burn alive from the inside out and you can't be rezzed

[vast jacinth]

exactlyy

[rapid whale]

dawg it's been nearly a month

you should have like 1600 tomes

you have 400

[dreamy whale]

I got scared of raiding and didn’t wanna turn the game on and then mh stories 3 and crimson desert came out

[rapid whale]

i dont wanna hear it lmfao

[whole estuary]

if TBN falls off without breaking a bunny dressed as a WHM should spawn on your head

[fiery jewel]

same this is the first week where I'm like screw reclearing

[vast jacinth]

tbf im procastinating hard on any m12s prog

pf scares me and i dont wanna do reclears anymore :)

[rapid whale]

cherry slacker smh

[vast jacinth]

yea i am but ive been playin a lot of yakuzaa

[dreamy whale]

my normal roulettes gimme mathematics right

[vast jacinth]

AND I LOVE IT

[fiery jewel]

pf gradually gets worse as the tier goes on but the rewards don't go up at all

[rapid whale]

is this your 67th replay

[rapid whale]

only if you do it on a level 100 job

[dreamy whale]

Epic

[vast jacinth]

see im not allowed to complain, im one of the pf andys who has horrible parses

[dreamy whale]

Tome farm here I come

[vast jacinth]

youre capped on 450 a week though

[fiery jewel]

doesn't matter if you do mechs who cares

[dreamy whale]

Also why did my wondrous tails get way harder all of a sudden

[fiery jewel]

unless it's like dogshit horrible

if you are doing enough dmg as most ppl did week 1 more than enough to clear tho

[naive leaf]

I don't even know how to read parse data P_p

[worn bluff]

i overestimated the dps check in m11s. we had a healer that averages 12k dps and i thought it was definitely a 0 6 10:30 angle, but everyone else has enough gear now that it doesn't even matter. boss was still 40% at start of arena split

[jolly flume]

at least half the population still doesnt do good enough damage to match reasonably good w1 parses

[fiery jewel]

dps check in m11s is genuinely the hardest but it's not saying too much

[fiery jewel]

insane if true

m11s just asked you to do the fight clean if group is playing below average

[vast jacinth]

im so thankful sitris friends helped me kill m11s i was loosing my mind :)

[fiery jewel]

which isn't really too much of an ask

[worn bluff]

i think 12k rdps is like... 7k behind average?

[fiery jewel]

but pf is pf

[worn bluff]

but ig you can still make up for that easily with gear

on other people

[rapid whale]

i have a day 1 parse that is still a60

so it's true

[jolly flume]

my week 1 11 parse was 20.9

median in that fight is currently 20.1

[fiery jewel]

ye idk

[jolly flume]

it's not like everyone is bis but almost everyone is guaranteed to have more gear than 783 by now

[worn bluff]

i think it only matters now if you have like... 3+ people that are far behind on damage

[fiery jewel]

I think their current job philosophy is flawed somewhat on which jobs are more carry jobs

which is an issue in pf

[worn bluff]

wonder if you could kill M11S with a healer doing 0 damage

[rapid whale]

the legendary mch who swears they do more rdps than the bard because of bad buff feed

[fiery jewel]

idk what they can do we'll see 7.5 prob

[dull drum]

tanks are carries because we protect our kittens from busters

thoughts team?

[rapid whale]

didn't wonder's group have a melee do 0 dmg to prove a point

[fiery jewel]

tanks are deisgned the worst probably

[jolly flume]

then you open their logs and they've never broken a green in their life

[fiery jewel]

but they are balanced the best

which is fitting ig

[jolly flume]

tanks are balanced the best if the only thing you know how to look at is a dps meter

lol

[worn bluff]

i saw someone do M9S with a melee doing 0 damage

[fiery jewel]

ye I think pld is overtuned

[worn bluff]

idk about m11

[dreamy whale]

Ok that’s enough break time to finish patch msq

[fiery jewel]

if vpr has a phys ranged tax than pld should

[rapid whale]

o did i get the fights mixed up mb

[fiery jewel]

but I don't think any melee needs a phys r tax

[worn bluff]

no no pld is totally fine they shouldn't nerf it at all

[fiery jewel]

I'm fine with pld doing good damage

but for the utility it has, it should probably be swapped with warrior on damage balance.

[worn bluff]

in my unbiased opinion they should leave it alone

[dreamy whale]

[fiery jewel]

idrc if they powercreep more

[dreamy whale]

Warrior not even that bad

[worn bluff]

its range and mits are very normal

[dull drum]

fuck warrior players

[fiery jewel]

warrior is probably the most balanced and fair tank

[dreamy whale]

Fuck you stan

[fiery jewel]

but they don't nerf jobs in xiv

[rapid whale]

now you're gonna tell me paladins need a resurrect

[fiery jewel]

so we won't see meaningful chnages

[worn bluff]

is it balanced and fair to explode to damage faster than the other tanks

[fiery jewel]

they aren't willing to nerf pld even by like 0.5%

[worn bluff]

didn't they nerf pld cleave

[dreamy whale]

Didn’t they literally nerf pct

[fiery jewel]

pct needs another small nerf

[jolly flume]

in 7.3 yeah

[fiery jewel]

but idrc it doesn't matter

jobs r balanced fine it's nitpicking

[dull drum]

blm needs a nerf thoughts team

[rapid whale]

you must have been happy about the reaper buffs

[dull drum]

[fiery jewel]

blm is hard to balance

so I can't really blame them

[dreamy whale]

Make every caster only instacast fr

[fiery jewel]

ye man

[jolly flume]

just put the physical range job stone in the bag

[rapid whale]

fr

[jolly flume]

if you can't play prange might as well just uninstall and get on genshin impact

[trim frost]

they should remove reaper from the game lowkenuinely

[fiery jewel]

I don't really get the reaper hate

[rapid whale]

attracts weirdos

[trim frost]

malera-coded job honestly

[worn bluff]

mb

[dreamy whale]

Lowkenuinely they should add another 1k potency to equilibrium and bloodwhetting

[fiery jewel]

🤷‍♂️ you can say that for like half the jobs

[whole estuary]

but what if removing it made all of them gravitate to DRK

[fiery jewel]

rpr buffs were good though

[whole estuary]

now you see the value of RPR

[fiery jewel]

I'd rather actual bad jobs get buffed instead tho

rpr was relatively fine now it's maybe the best melee in most settings

[trim frost]

doubt button

[fiery jewel]

but they saw nobody plays it and had to add incentive

I think ppl who play reaper understand that the job is genuinely good especially in pf

[dreamy whale]

Mb autocorrect

[fiery jewel]

but pf and static setting balance is different

[wicked delta]

i can name 1 person who is a weirdo who loves that job

[rapid whale]

ah yeah that toxic dude

[trim frost]

https://tenor.com/view/gulp-cat-gif-27257259

[wicked delta]

[jolly flume]

what the hell is a tozuccias

[wicked delta]

ask sarah

[trim frost]

why is ur lich plural

[rapid whale]

if i say what i think i will be banned

[dreamy whale]

Wtf is graha tia doing here

[wicked delta]

ask sarah x2

[trim frost]

#modabuse

[rapid whale]

i was like damn i didnt know tobi was into that

[vast jacinth]

i love sarah for the name changes

[rapid whale]

i still dont understand mine

[vast jacinth]

always funny to see the changes lmao

[fiery jewel]

stereotyping ppl based on job genuinely weird tho

[rapid whale]

wat

[wicked delta]

who cares you'll be aight

[dreamy whale]

Nah us warriors players are single digit iq brainlets

[rapid whale]

no there was genuinely a v toxic person who was a reaper apologist in here that got banned

[jolly flume]

I will not stop calling white mages and dancers dogshit

[rapid whale]

as for the hating on a job part thats mostly a joke

[wicked delta]

white mage players have gotten meme'd on for years in here and they're doing just fine lol

[rapid whale]

except for whm hate

[jolly flume]

you cannot stop me

the gospel must be heard

[fiery jewel]

this is the closest I can get to stereotyping jobs

[worn bluff]

idk like 90% of the warriors i've played with in PF are pretty bad

[dreamy whale]

Healers not needed in dungeons

[vast jacinth]

see i just turn into green dps in dungeons

[rapid whale]

i think warriors get a false sense of invincibility from dungeons

[dreamy whale]

Yea

[vast jacinth]

but recently ive just done / random

[rapid whale]

only to realize they are actually the squishiest tank come savage

[vast jacinth]

and boi was i a shitty bard today

[worn bluff]

it's ironic because they need the most help for single hits

[dreamy whale]

I’m immune for 5 seconds every 30 seconds during adds tho

[fiery jewel]

warrior goated

best tank

[vast jacinth]

warriors in fru T_T sometimes it was like oh yea i need to heal them there

[dreamy whale]

Nah gnb best tank I’m just too dumb to play it

[worn bluff]

warrior may be the least fun i've ever had in this game

[fiery jewel]

war can use a slight buff

[rapid whale]

wdym niko you played reaper

[jolly flume]

wars dont need healing

they need you to press aquaveil for every single buster or they will explode

[rapid whale]

lmao

[fiery jewel]

ye

I think the issue is WAR is actually balanced in terms of mitigation

while the other tanks are just slightly overtuned

[worn bluff]

like if you wanted as little engagement with your rotation as possible, you would get WAR rotation

[fiery jewel]

but I get they don't want tanks to be dependent on healers

but idk if I really agree with that ideology

[worn bluff]

it's just that fell cleave looks cool

[fiery jewel]

that's the point of being a healer in every game

[rapid whale]

fell cleave, the pizza cutter from the heaens

[trim frost]

wtf is this take bruh

we are crossing the bridge into nonsenseland

[dreamy whale]

I play warrior because it has the simplest rotation with the least amount of weaves

[rapid whale]

hikari is def cooly 2.0

[jolly flume]

my cousin plays warrior

the one named otto

[rapid whale]

my condelences to your family

[fiery jewel]

it's a vibe ngl

[trim frost]

im glad i graduated from being a warrior main because it sucks nuts in retrospect

[worn bluff]

i mean mitigation difficulty scales up with different fights. there are some tankbusters that are more difficult to survive without outside help

[dreamy whale]

Dawntrail ruined gnb because you can’t check if your healer is paying attention anymore

[fiery jewel]

yeah

[dreamy whale]

Nvm I changed my mind

[worn bluff]

it's more to do with fight design than warrior being well designed

[fiery jewel]

I think where they have warrior rn the balance between mitigation and self healing is fine

[worn bluff]

they could just make tankbusters hit harder and buff war

[trim frost]

i dont like gnb being a 1 min job

[fiery jewel]

pld is clearly overtund

that's the one job I will argue is legitimately overtuned rn

for what it does

[trim frost]

i miss when words meant things

[dreamy whale]

Idk where you’re getting the idea that pld is overtuned when it’s not even at the top of tank dps charts iirc

[worn bluff]

i mean tbh you could make sheltron and intervention share cd and remove wings

[jolly flume]

people who only know how to read dps meters should not speak about balance

[rapid whale]

they just say shit the same way cooly would then get mad when you point out the logical inconsistencies

[worn bluff]

if you wanted to equalize the mits a bit more

[trim frost]

welcome to ragebait lounge

[fiery jewel]

I factor in utility ye

[dreamy whale]

What’s snake prio btw

[worn bluff]

wings are really nice but idc if you take them away

[jolly flume]

whatever man im going back to my spreadsheets

[rapid whale]

its what i do to your mom in your bed

[dreamy whale]

Crazy

[jolly flume]

I cant make my numbers match I hate math I hate math!!!

[fiery jewel]

taking away wings is just removing identity tho

that's been in the game since like ARR

[rapid whale]

1=1 2=2 3=4

FUCK

[jolly flume]

asian card revoked

always knew you were white

[rapid whale]

i love coleslwa

[jolly flume]

wait thats my line

I had coleslaw today

[rapid whale]

our line

[jolly flume]

new korean fried chicken place opened up on campus

pretty solid

[worn bluff]

yeah tell that to the guy who decided to remove dragon sight from DRG

[dreamy whale]

Chiyo do you put raisins in the coleslaw

[jolly flume]

hell no

[fiery jewel]

truth

[dreamy whale]

Good job

Hate mfs who put raisins in cole slaw

Fake white people

[fiery jewel]

I think taking away moves for the sake of "balance" is the wrong tactic when you can just make jobs with more utility do slightly less damage like RDM and SMN do

[worn bluff]

whoever decided lance charge deserved to survive over dragon sight, i hope they are not in charge of 8.0 rework

[fiery jewel]

drg is completely ruined

idk why dragoon purists are not pissed

[dreamy whale]

Make smn a dot platform again

[fiery jewel]

spineshatter being removed was horrible also

[worn bluff]

idc about being a purist but i think lance charge just looks lame

[fiery jewel]

could use an upgaded animation

they prob will do some next expac I imagine

[worn bluff]

it will be 2030 and lance charge will be unchanged

[jolly flume]

auuughghghu

[fiery jewel]

lance charge fits the kit tho

but I think it could be implemented better I agree with that

[dreamy whale]

Do I need the green and white tomestones or the red and green ones

[fiery jewel]

what is this?

[trim frost]

both

red/green one is weekly limited

[jolly flume]

im spreadsheeting a speedkill for a diff game

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/credit-card-swipe

[jolly flume]

and my numbers

dont line up with observed

bricked

[fiery jewel]

sounds fun and torturous at the same time

[rapid whale]

gg chiyo about to expose a gacha game for using fake numbers

the way koreans did with maple story

[worn bluff]

chiyo hacking his FF14 to do 200k dps

[jolly flume]

can I hack my pf to feed my chain instead

[worn bluff]

they will never

[dreamy whale]

Is yuweyawata the really hard one people kept complaining about

[fiery jewel]

field station

I think Strayborough was the hard one this expac

[whole estuary]

I heard the most complaints about Skydeep and Miso Terminal

[fiery jewel]

they fun

skydeep final boss is a skill check

[whole estuary]

Skydeep because it has fall deaths that can't be trivialized with ilvl and Miso because it requires you to have completed Hall of the Novice

[fiery jewel]

meso terminal seocnd boss is a skill check

the only boss that is ridiculous was the first boss of Strayborough since if you got caught it's pure rng if you die or not

[worn bluff]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-misosoup

[kindred bison]

guys why does M12S keep kicking my ass.

[wicked delta]

💀

[trim frost]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lol-6726

[quick verge]

im using this

[visual geyser]

dude

shooting that shot to other 40 year olds playing this game

[turbid haven]

Let me know guys, is this a good idea

[olive hearth]

thats not rune fencer

/s it looks cool to have a flag/halberd weapon

[zealous meteor]

gauge generated by AI

[visual geyser]

i love it

oh

dude

y

[turbid haven]

Sorry man I couldnt find a template online 😭

[visual geyser]

just remove it

[zealous meteor]

i mean it looks fine i think? but idk how it would work in xiv

[visual geyser]

u lose points fo rit

[quick verge]

you can just take an existing gauge

[visual geyser]

yea just take the paladin gauge it looks the exact same

[quick verge]

you literally murdered a family of seals for that gauge

[jolly flume]

good

[visual geyser]

real!!

[jolly flume]

fat fucks

[visual geyser]

the signifer in xb3 is the same

i think that job was awesome

[wicked delta]

hes still tryna chat ppl up in shout chat btw

[visual geyser]

rizz!?

[wicked delta]

[visual geyser]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dualshockers.com%2Fxenoblade-chronicles-3-unlock-all-healer-heroes-classes%2F&ved=0CBYQjRxqFwoTCIjJ6KmXvJMDFQAAAAAdAAAAABA-&opi=89978449 i guess its a healer tho

[zealous meteor]

personally i wouldn't love having another "fake" pet job where you get pets but they don't do anything, like SMN carby
but i wouldn't hate it either

[visual geyser]

but they use a flag

[visual geyser]

beastmaster peak inc

[zealous meteor]

i think beastmaster can only get away with having actual pets because it's a limited job

[worldly grotto]

Nah BST will be just like pokemon trust

Zero compromises, every mob will have attacks that aren’t just 200 potency aoes

[visual geyser]

l o l

give behemoth mold breaker

[worldly grotto]

BST will lidolly save the game

[visual geyser]

trust me bros

behemoth breaks the mold!

[loud swift]

nidhogg is exerting pressure!

[visual geyser]

they should add accuracy to beast master

bring the stack back

[loud swift]

if its not 100% accuracy its 50% accurate

[visual geyser]

ECCLIPTIC METEOR MISS!

[turbid haven]

ok there

Warrior 2.0

[visual geyser]

nice

[olive hearth]

im pretty sure the beastmaster pets will just be on the field with you and you can use their skills as part of your rotation

[visual geyser]

damn back when warrior had a peak gauge

i like the idea of waving a flag tho

you can make alot of weapons with that too

[rapid whale]

FOR DEMACIA

[visual geyser]

fit goes hard right chat (say yes or else)

[worldly grotto]

Halberd or glaive would be sick but the devs would probably think there’d be too much visual overlap with DRG

[visual geyser]

i think the flag is fine tho

[worldly grotto]

A mace or flail would be a cool weapon

[olive hearth]

if a tank uses its gauge for just DPS, what would its defences be? would it relate to the troops or just be its own thing?

[rapid whale]

yes or else)

[olive hearth]

same thing with the invuln

[worldly grotto]

Yeah flag goes hard for sure

[visual geyser]

like imagine if you could place flags down

and they had mit

[loud swift]

dot

[fiery jewel]

this is good

post this on forums

[visual geyser]

kinda like a tank version of sacred soil

LMAO

[turbid haven]

never been on there, but I will 👍

[loud swift]

new pf post:
tank MUST play commander or kick

[visual geyser]

forums would be like "this is the worst thing ever"

[visual geyser]

peak tbh

[fiery jewel]

I find forums to have really og players they are actually very reasonable

they have respect for the game

[visual geyser]

tf wants to play a paladin when you can command the fkn troops

[loud swift]

kinda real

[visual geyser]

sounds so cool so you know square would never do it

[fiery jewel]

need more job identity back something like that is a step in the right direction

[rapid whale]

i almost feel like they'd have to make that a healer

[olive hearth]

It sounds like it would be better as a DPS

[rapid whale]

instead of a tank

if its actualyl gonna have a bunch of party related stuff

[loud swift]

how would you balance it so commander wouldnt be the strongest tank just due to the buffs it provides

[fiery jewel]

we already have bard for that tbh

[visual geyser]

oh yea damage buff tank

fuck it mane

[fiery jewel]

doesn't need a raidbuff but at least important utility

[olive hearth]

bard for what

half the DPS jobs have raidbuffs

[fiery jewel]

bard is pretty much the "commander" of the dps role

but can they add something better ya for sure

[visual geyser]

bard literally has army's peon kek

[fiery jewel]

what makes bard unique is that it has a bunch of raidbuffs + niche utility

[visual geyser]

and battle voice

[fiery jewel]

bard is probably the main culprit for certain comps being very strong

[loud swift]

support based melee would be cool

[fiery jewel]

but who cares since the job is fun

[fiery jewel]

yeah I agree

I think monk can be that

[olive hearth]

huh almost every job has raidbuffs, thats why we have a 2 min meta

[fiery jewel]

I think people are so opposed to having dps being utility focused because they think that means they will get a severe dps tax

when that isn't really the reality and sqex has shown that this expansion

[vestal hollow]

what does utility even mean

[vestal hollow]

what

[fiery jewel]

raidbuff, rez, migation, heals, niche other stuff.

bard for example has a cleanse

[visual geyser]

pct having utility on top of hte best dps in the game

what a time

[fiery jewel]

I think having jobs that give other single target buffs

[loud swift]

i mean go off but that is really niche tbf in high end content

[fiery jewel]

like speed / mitigation on the dps role would be fine also

maybe haste but idk

[olive hearth]

Haste in the big 2026

[vestal hollow]

haste sucks ass

for most jobs

[worldly grotto]

Water, heating and cooling should be included

[fiery jewel]

Not really haste more like

[visual geyser]

i think bad should get peleton in combat

[fiery jewel]

sks / sps buff

[vestal hollow]

yes

[fiery jewel]

dancer should probably have that tbh

[vestal hollow]

that sucks ass

[fiery jewel]

that would make it more interesting

[vestal hollow]

for most jobs

[olive hearth]

yeah thats terrible

[loud swift]

do not change my gcd

my muscle memory

[fiery jewel]

gcd doesn't matter that much for most jobs

but ye

[vestal hollow]

what

[olive hearth]

???????

[vestal hollow]

it absolutely fucking does

lmfao

[fiery jewel]

it's just that other materia are more optimal

[vestal hollow]

no

no thats not.

[zealous meteor]

?

[fiery jewel]

drg u don't have to play 2.5 that's just more optimal

[olive hearth]

the prio for materia is SkS/SPS to comfort THEN the other stats

[fiery jewel]

ye

[zealous meteor]

playing SCH on anything but 2.40 feels like fucking ass

[vestal hollow]

your shit will not line up if you dont do 2.5.

[trim frost]

we just spewing shit from a butt now aren't we

[fiery jewel]

can you stop insulting like just a discussion

[visual geyser]

fairs

[fiery jewel]

not the other ppl

just that one dude

[visual geyser]

but the haste buff got removed for a reason

i was a monk main

[fiery jewel]

ik what u are saying

[visual geyser]

it ruined my job

[loud swift]

mch fast gcd plays like shit

[vestal hollow]

I'm not insulting you.

[fiery jewel]

not you

you good

[visual geyser]

these are cool ideas

[trim frost]

stop treating your objectively wrong takes as scripture

[visual geyser]

but 14 doesnt fit

alot of these ideas unfort

bad game tbh

[fiery jewel]

I think it can fit we just haven't seen it implemented

but the tank idea is good

mine was just a random tidbit

[vestal hollow]

your opinion is based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of how the game works. combat may as well be turn based here and to change that requires a lot more than basic ability changes

[loud swift]

the game would have to be entirely reworked for a lot of the "cool" ideas unfortunately

[olive hearth]

we did see haste implimented with Astro

[visual geyser]

we have tho

[fiery jewel]

I can play 2.4 drg and it's really not that much different than 2.5

[vestal hollow]

unironically, if you want this, wow is far better about this sort of expression.

[fiery jewel]

I will just do way less dps

[vestal hollow]

you should play that

[zealous meteor]

most jobs want a specific gcd, and another party member fucking with your gcd would both feel terrible and lower your damage output

[vestal hollow]

there's a reason why they removed the haste card from astro

[visual geyser]

@fiery jewel where u playing during hw?

[loud swift]

theres a lot of cool ideas that would be neat for xiv but just wouldnt work, and in one point of time i wanted to try to make my own game or atleast try to experiment with the ideas of it lol

[visual geyser]

geniune question

[fiery jewel]

nah

[visual geyser]

yea that was a HW thing

[fiery jewel]

I don't really agree for most jobs but tbf I fail to see how it will even work for ceratin jobs with fixed gcds also

[visual geyser]

didnt work well

[fiery jewel]

but I defintely think they can implement it again if they really wanted to on a job like DNC

but does the community want it clearly not

[zealous meteor]

speaking for myself, playing MCH/DRK at <2.50, or SCH at anything but 2.40 feels pretty fucking terrible
shit just doesn't line up

[steep narwhal]

[wicked delta]

[fiery jewel]

or if they go the skill tree route maybe you can make your dancer cater towards BLM skillset or smth

[kind elm]

[visual geyser]

its unfortunate the jobs will never be able to influnece the other jobs

outside of damage

[fiery jewel]

ye

I heard about the pierce / blunt / slash stuff

[wicked delta]

lulu....

[steep narwhal]

hi...

[wicked delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[fiery jewel]

pierce / blunt / slash is just bad design in an mmo

[kind elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1377545202029432855/1483889552270819328/caption-4.gif

[steep narwhal]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[vestal hollow]

you are playing the wrong mmo for these sorts of takes, genuinely

[fiery jewel]

it was never going to work

[worldly grotto]

Who started using this gif

[fiery jewel]

I think haste is a middleground

[kind elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[fiery jewel]

ig so

[worldly grotto]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[vestal hollow]

(·•᷄‎ࡇ•᷅ )

[loud swift]

i will deny haste

[vestal hollow]

i will right click a haste buff

[visual geyser]

same

[vestal hollow]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

damn we got the lenny in 2026

[steep narwhal]

i wanna be butt naked

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mad-angry-cat-corner-gif-12553724565950260937

[loud swift]

its not hard to be

[steep narwhal]

im at work rn

[loud swift]

oh

[vestal hollow]

i'm suing you for defamation

[loud swift]

yeah thatd be an issue i think

[kind elm]

u can be butt naked at work

just once

[loud swift]

well

depends

[zealous meteor]

we also got

[loud swift]

if you get another job you can be butt naked again

[zealous meteor]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[trim frost]

go work at a pool then u can be butt naked at work everyday

[vestal hollow]

( ・◇・)？

[loud swift]

i dont think you're allowed to be naked at a public pool

[vestal hollow]

they added a text emoji picker

[trim frost]

in da shower

[quick verge]

enhanced the arrow

holy peak

[vestal hollow]

technically everyone is naked under their clothes

[worldly grotto]

Scandalous

[loud swift]

i bet you shower naked, huh

[vestal hollow]

ive got fur

im good

[wicked delta]

i shower with my skin on

[zealous meteor]

they WHAT

[vestal hollow]

you'd look better with your skin off

[steep narwhal]

im in a school.

[kind elm]

yeah

once

thjen u get fuckin arrested

locked up

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-balloon-shaking-gifdopedrao-gif-18309166828393550457

[steep narwhal]

wulfie is trying to get me fucking fired.

and put on a list.

[loud swift]

you can be butt naked anywhere as long as you aren't caught tbf

[kind elm]

im a lil silly :3

[trim frost]

your honor i was just being silly

[fiery jewel]

The game has more potential for utility outside of damage tbh, but they only use it on a few jobs.

[zealous meteor]

holy shit

[vestal hollow]

ദ്ദി◝ ⩊ ◜.ᐟ

[loud swift]

my pc discord doesnt have this update

rigged

discord executives hate me

[vestal hollow]

because i use canary

get owned

[loud swift]

nerd

[vestal hollow]

im gonna become homophobic to this turtle

[loud swift]

wtheck

[loud swift]

not nice

apologize to the turtle

[vestal hollow]

never.

[loud swift]

turtles weren't dying because of the straws

you just hurt all of their feelings

[vestal hollow]

get owned.

another w for the poullutecels.

[steep narwhal]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1483477438850928863.gif?size=4096&quality=lossless

[worldly grotto]

Tick-tock
Heavy like a Brinks truck

[vestal hollow]

i'm locking u out of our minecraft house.

breaking ur bed too.

[visual geyser]

give bard expedience

yes or yes

[vestal hollow]

ur dog is getting turned into jerky.

[worldly grotto]

Aaah

[fiery jewel]

dps role has potential to have more single target utility buffs.

[visual geyser]

yea a single target movement speed buff could somnething coo

[fiery jewel]

like dancer being able to give expedience to someone for 3-5s wouldn't really affect the balance and can be skill expression

[loud swift]

its called SPRINT

[fiery jewel]

do think it's a bit boring that all of dancers buffs are damage related except for that one move.

[steep narwhal]

jokes on u i never had a house

[visual geyser]

remove sprint

[worn bluff]

they could have done something cool with vpr where it was like “your filler gcds are 1-2 buttons but then you have the most complex ogcds” but instead they were like “lol ogcds are 1-2 buttons too”

[whole estuary]

add movespeed materia

[fiery jewel]

remove sprint would skill check alot of ppl

would just be bad

[visual geyser]

joking

[fiery jewel]

they do design every encounter around not being able to use sprint tho tbf

👀

[loud swift]

but but... my pvp sprint

[visual geyser]

idk the only utility you can have players give to other players is movement speed

[fiery jewel]

not possible

[visual geyser]

theyll bitch about anything else

[whole estuary]

I feel like Occult Berzerker needs sprint

[fiery jewel]

nobody would use this

the only way you can add minor utility buffs are just the toolkits

[visual geyser]

game is so lame

[whole estuary]

I would have a set just for city navigation

and maybe low tier gathering

[visual geyser]

they cant add nothing it it doesnt do damage 💔

[whole estuary]

go nyoom

[visual geyser]

im playing wow screw this

😡

[fiery jewel]

issue with that is ppl would get annoyed that they have to constantly swap gear

[loud swift]

hear me out
gear gets "sub-materia" slots
sub materia is just minor buffs

[worldly grotto]

I'm of the opinion they should make the game better

[fiery jewel]

I think just adding toggle sprint out of combat is fine

like pvp

[visual geyser]

lifesteal

[worldly grotto]

It is up to you to decide what I mean by that

[fiery jewel]

jog was good but they can go the extra mile for sure

[visual geyser]

yes or yes

[fiery jewel]

they def will

[loud swift]

you just want dragoon

[whole estuary]

go further beyond and make it the Fall Guys sprint

[fiery jewel]

they're clearly saving big announcements for fanfest

and we already got good QoL announcements with dye and armoire

[vestal hollow]

we say this every expac

[fiery jewel]

I think this is the one expansion it's actually valid tho

[visual geyser]

fact

[fiery jewel]

since like StB

even StB game was on upwards trajectory tho

it's just msq

[visual geyser]

glamour change made this game 20% more fun

[fiery jewel]

rn the game is stagnant and was losing players

[loud swift]

i would try out WoW if I had money for sub

and storage space for it why is it so big

[fiery jewel]

and they have competition

so this is the time where they actually want to change the game alot

[visual geyser]

200 years of content i guess

[fiery jewel]

everything Yoshida has said has been good for the most part but apparently he says it every expansion

but idk it's hard to not genuinely believe him this time given the circumstances

[worldly grotto]

Yoshi talks in PR speak is the thing

[visual geyser]

fact

[vestal hollow]

we said that with the lead up to dawntrail too

[fiery jewel]

if yoshida was saying fundamental changes will come after Endwalker the most popular expac

nobody would believe him rlly

[visual geyser]

w scamr

[vestal hollow]

but they keep making the same fumbles with content

[fiery jewel]

The difference is Endwalker was the most popular expac

they didn't really need to innovate or be creative

[vestal hollow]

whereas wow has oneupped them on housing, one of the few major things that kept truly casual players tied to xiv

they also added more difficult solo content for casual players

[fiery jewel]

now we are at like pre ShB numbers

[vestal hollow]

so like

[fiery jewel]

competition effect is real for sure

[loud swift]

FFXiV-2 when

[visual geyser]

dont htink this is true

[fiery jewel]

7.4 we clearly gained players

tbf

[visual geyser]

yur

[olive hearth]

we gain players every patch

[worldly grotto]

I just 1 don't know if they actually care to improve some fundamental issues with the game 2 know how to fix those issues or 3 are able to implement fixes and changes in a relatively short time frame

[fiery jewel]

7.3 it was cooked tho

[visual geyser]

its around SHB numbrs

[fiery jewel]

7.3 was not even a bad patch on paper

[olive hearth]

it just lowers over time at the end of expansions

[fiery jewel]

but the ddos attacks

oh my god

[vestal hollow]

for what, though

besides the same content

[visual geyser]

glamour

[fiery jewel]

If I was Yoshida

to an extent

[olive hearth]

glamour, end of arcadion

[fiery jewel]

after seeing the reputation 7.0 got on release

[olive hearth]

is a good patch

[visual geyser]

ye good patch

[fiery jewel]

I would immeaditely call this expansion somewhat of a lost cause

[visual geyser]

advanced was fun too

[fiery jewel]

and just put more assets into next expac

[visual geyser]

good msq patch too

[olive hearth]

genuinely hope that the difficulty of advanced makes it into other dungeons

[fiery jewel]

but even then we've been getting good content and QoL in post patch

[olive hearth]

so much fun

[worn bluff]

8.0 all jobs must be pulled from gacha

[fiery jewel]

idk if they do this every expac

[worldly grotto]

I might have a problem cause I can play WoW and enjoy it but in the back of my mind I'm just thinking "I miss FFXIV"

[fiery jewel]

I only play EW & DT

[worldly grotto]

I'm a casual

[fiery jewel]

but the QoL updates we have got DT fundamentally are a very good sign

but idk if it's like this every patch

[visual geyser]

yur

looking at my inventory dyes

[olive hearth]

ever since late ShB they've been adding good QoL almost every patch

[visual geyser]

cant wait

[fiery jewel]

like they have taken big steps imo

in listening to community kinda

[vestal hollow]

i think the #1 fucking thing squenix has to change fundamentally about the game in 8.0 is they have to change their open world/zone design philosophy. i think its just unacceptable how shallow they are - they dont feel lived in, they dont have unique activities, they're not complex enough to reward exploration (nor do they, like wow, sprinkle treasures and little fun things around the map to discover)

[fiery jewel]

I agree

I think the #1 issue rn during THIS EXPANSION

is no cross datacenter stufc

but Yoshida even addressed this during the LL

so we can see a potential fix as soon as 7.5

[worn bluff]

let people build housing along the edges of the map

[vestal hollow]

i just cant believe in 2026 that zones are still so lifeless and pointless, there's like next to zero reason to go outside of the endgame city if you are a raider

[fiery jewel]

but the #1 issue they can fix this expansion is cross datacenter

[visual geyser]

i think its a 8.0 thing

[loud swift]

there really isnt

[fiery jewel]

but they might do it 8.0 instead

I assume we will get more QoL announcements for 7.5 during fanfest

[loud swift]

think I only rexplored the zones recently because i was doing blue mage stuff

[fiery jewel]

This is the #1 thing that will cater to casuals atp

so I agree

[olive hearth]

I do want a better open world zone but I dont want it to feel like a checklist or taking my helicopter to check marked areas people in shout chat will just yell out

[fiery jewel]

but it will require a lot

and if they don't execute it good

it will be wasted

[whole estuary]

Did you know that the spriggans in west shroud are all holding differnt colored rocks

[vestal hollow]

wow spreads interesting shit everywhere, actively wants you to do their equivalent of fates and gives you a reason to kill rares beyond a pathetic trickle of currency

[fiery jewel]

I 100% believe they semi abandoned DT

and are putting more assets in 8.x

[olive hearth]

I want better interactions between players and the Fates they already have going on, maybe something involved like the attack on highbridge, being long and multi part

[loud swift]

i liked guild wars 2 cuz theres a reason to explore the zones

[visual geyser]

idk theres more content than any other expac

[olive hearth]

what makes you say that?

[worldly grotto]

Also with a WoW sub you get like 4 different versions of WoW to play

[fiery jewel]

It's just not smart to put like

[worldly grotto]

Which is insane

[fiery jewel]

major changes in an expansion that is already "ruined" in a lot of the communities opinions

[vestal hollow]

they absolutely abandoned endwalker, but to say they ditched dt is insane lol

[fiery jewel]

it's better to ride the train for a new expansion

did EW have a bad reception 6.0 idk

[visual geyser]

i cant wait for forked in .5

[fiery jewel]

the issue with DT is it immeidately had a bad reception as soon as the first week

[olive hearth]

if they abandoned DT we wouldnt be getting the ultimate in 7.5

[visual geyser]

forked so fun

fact

[worldly grotto]

Unfortunately I know me and I will absolutely get hyped for the next FFXIV expansion Everfrost

[fiery jewel]

If we didn't get an ultimate a lot of ppl will quit

[vestal hollow]

blizzard acknowledges that wow is a reliable cash cow and they give it the resources it needs. i dont think ive ever heard wow devs give "we dont have the time" as an excuse to not add something

[fiery jewel]

Yoshida acknowledged this

[vestal hollow]

squenix does not do this

[fiery jewel]

Yoshida basically admitted the raiding scene is cooked if no ulti 7.5

kinda

because that's over a year of no new high end content

[vestal hollow]

unfortunately if that does not change i dont think its out of the realm of possibility that the ff franchise might end within the next 5-10 years, because square enix as a company is doing absolutely terrible

[olive hearth]

if those shareholders want more value out of SE then they should make them put more resources into XIV tbh

[fiery jewel]

Def expect a bigger budget

[worldly grotto]

To say as much on stream is such an insane thing to do 💀

[fiery jewel]

I think DT has a bigger budget tbf

at least after ff16

[whole estuary]

but if there is no ult in 7.5 then I don't have to deal with a DDOS for this patch

[fiery jewel]

ff16 was the biggest thing that hurt this game it's hard to overlook

[vestal hollow]

what

[fiery jewel]

since that's a 80+ hour jrpg that clearly had a lot of effort.

[visual geyser]

no?

lol

[vestal hollow]

you are living in an alternate reality

[worn bluff]

my theory is that PCT motifs started as a RPR soulsow rework but it made more sense to stick it in a cool new job for the expansion instead

[vestal hollow]

squenix hurt ff14

[visual geyser]

i mean ff16 was being made in SHB

[vestal hollow]

ff14 has hurt ff14

[visual geyser]

whihc was fine

fine ish

i remember the shb hate trian

[jolly flume]

ngl I'm starting to be convinced this is the case because I've tested it like 15 times and it's still consistently ~11% lower than what it should be on paper, and I've triple checked my formulas (and they hold true for every other instance of damage besides this type)

there's a scam here somewhere

[visual geyser]

endfield?

[jolly flume]

yea

[fiery jewel]

they are in same studio cbu3

depends how you look at it

[vestal hollow]

unless there are truly substantial changes to their fundamental design philosophy i do not think i will be getting it lol

like

[fiery jewel]

cbu3 is big obviously most of the team remained on ffxiv

[vestal hollow]

i'm sorry but i cant keep coping

[worldly grotto]

Why won't you give us Forked Tower Normal?
FF16 killed Forked Tower Normal okay?

[whole estuary]

I think there was a JP player who was able to succesfully sue a gacha company when it was revealed their rates were lower than displayed this way

[fiery jewel]

I genuinely think the time to be positive about the game is 8.0 tho

but we will see when fanfest drops

[worldly grotto]

You're a smarter person than me

[jolly flume]

it's not gacha rates, just dmg formula

I have no idea

[rapid whale]

im convinced with anything as popular as ffxiv, you look hard enough you'll find hate no matter what they do/put out

[fiery jewel]

if fanfest is shit

ye it might be cooked

[worldly grotto]

I am just goo goo ga ga baby

[fiery jewel]

ngl

[olive hearth]

this fanfest is going to be very important

[fiery jewel]

idk how much they reveal first fanfest

but at least the expansion theme I think?

[visual geyser]

i think this fanfest will be really good imo

[rapid whale]

this ultimate will surely be the hardest and most cinematic ultimate ever

[visual geyser]

i believe

[olive hearth]

ill probably keep playing regardless since i love FF in general, but I do hope it gets the proper support from SE

[fiery jewel]

it's hard to not say 8.x will be bad on paper

[whole estuary]

it should be about countering the frost instead

so we should call it Shardbloom

[fiery jewel]

like most games bounce back after their quality drops

[whole estuary]

please give me more SB/ShB abbreviations

[fiery jewel]

OW is easiest example

[vestal hollow]

you can believe yoship saying that ffxiv has 10 more years if you like but, i'm just being realistic that unless something major changes in how they make not just content but write story and design zones, it's going to struggle to last beyond 8.0 lol

[worldly grotto]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tyler1-3

[fiery jewel]

everything yoshida has been saying

[visual geyser]

oh this game will live another 10 years easily

[fiery jewel]

at least on paper

is major changes

but is he lying idk

[vestal hollow]

there's a word doing lifting there

"most"

[worldly grotto]

Yeah but all that stuff he's saying is just lip service

[rapid whale]

my friend brought up a concerning point tho that it might be a puzzle ultimate, something about yoshi p saying, "we want to design the fight to create a challenge for world 1st race but for the average people to be able to clear it before the next fan fest" which would basically mean they expect a normal static to clear around week 8

[fiery jewel]

I think sqex is more competent than their reputation.

[vestal hollow]

this is also ignoring that whole sex abuse scandal with blizzard and how they had to fundamentally restructure and change the company

[fiery jewel]

they've done a lot of good but a lot of bad

[fiery jewel]

yeah that was crazy

[worldly grotto]

We literally don't know what they're implementing at this point aside from speculation and copium

[fiery jewel]

jeff kaplan interview wild tho

[fiery jewel]

Yoshida has said a lot of stuff about next expac

u just have to heavily search

[visual geyser]

8.0 is gonna bang msq wise

[worldly grotto]

Aside from a character creation overhaul (allegedly) and some job changes (allegedly)

[fiery jewel]

but everything Yoshida has said has been positive imo

but again on paper

[wicked delta]

The dude just says shit

I’ll believe it when I see it

[fiery jewel]

That's what you should do tbf

[worldly grotto]

Again Yoshi isn't gonna shit talk his game

[whole estuary]

He also said 8.0 coming sooner than you think! (allegedly)

[vestal hollow]

being realistic, i dont know. because i think the simplest path forward is a shard expac which feels like will just end up being an shb repeat

[fiery jewel]

he kinda did shit talk DT

[rapid whale]

another friend of mine said that they openly stated DT was about revamping the way they approach fight design, and that 8.0 would be the job/combat revamp; if this is true (i didnt see the interview they referenced) i think they 100% delivered because the DT fights have been great (even fru, albeit it slightly too easy)

[fiery jewel]

he said it was not high quality

[vestal hollow]

i literally refuse to believe a thing he says besides the facts at this point

[visual geyser]

agreed

[worldly grotto]

After consensus already lambasted the expac and talking about its issues were safe sure

[fiery jewel]

I remember early DT Yoshida was genuinely reflective and looking for feedback

[visual geyser]

they earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to 8.0 adn jobs

kinda

ish

[fiery jewel]

Yes but at least he knew

[vestal hollow]

because he's placating the customers lol

[visual geyser]

7.x has been good

[worldly grotto]

He did the same with Endwalker where he talked about lack of difficulty and no field op

[visual geyser]

i really enjoyed 7.2-.4

[wicked delta]

Fight design has been great and you’ll hear no complaints from me in that regard

[fiery jewel]

Also 7.x has been good

[jolly flume]

about 8.0 maybe
about jobs absolutely not

[dapper zealot]

If it's a nier ult it would be so funny. Yoko Taro just subjecting everyone to insane torture

[rapid whale]

i genuinely enjoyed post dt yea

[worldly grotto]

He's placating

[fiery jewel]

so idk why ppl think 8.x won't be good at bare minimum

[wicked delta]

Tbh even if the jobs still suck I will keep playing regardless lol

[fiery jewel]

unless they like

do another 7.0

[vestal hollow]

he didnt want to say "yeah sorry we cast a trans va and wanted to shift the focus away from being a chosen one story. it wont happen again"

[jolly flume]

but the problem is that "good" by ffxiv standards is still pretty dry by the bar set by any other game

[fiery jewel]

I don't think it's possible to pull another 7.0 tho

[visual geyser]

well he isnt sorry for castign the trans va why would he say that lmfao

[vestal hollow]

thats

.

my point

[visual geyser]

o

[fiery jewel]

even besides that

he was genuinely saying DT is good enough quality

and shit like that

which is more than some companies can do

[visual geyser]

he lied to me about my criterion

W scammer

[fiery jewel]

v&c has me worried

[wicked delta]

Criterion being boss rush slop now 🥀

[fiery jewel]

tbf

[worldly grotto]

1.5x the rewards in DT btw

[fiery jewel]

v&c is the only recent content where I'm like wtf is this

but it's not as bad as ppl say

[vestal hollow]

"some"

[worldly grotto]

That was a huge promise

[visual geyser]

unfortuantly its kinda true

[fiery jewel]

tekken 8

[vestal hollow]

my competition is blizzard and digital extremes and i am doing the bare minimum

[visual geyser]

tekken 8 💔

[fiery jewel]

tbf cbu3 acting like that is how we got here in the first place

[worldly grotto]

Tekken 8

[fiery jewel]

blizzard lowkey cooking

but their reputation is forever tarnished so it's hard

[visual geyser]

they got me to playoverwatch for a week or 2

so respect

[vestal hollow]

most people dont give a shit

[fiery jewel]

at least for their two main moneymakers they cooked a bit

[visual geyser]

bonus time queue up