#endgame-lounge

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dull drum
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i look at the floor

worn bluff
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that caused vpr to get the extra hit instead of pct

dull drum
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hard to describe

worn bluff
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idr when the proximity snapshots exactly. did vpr have to move for a cleave?

trim frost
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it happens so early in the fight i would just tell people the spots to stand and go next if wipe lol

fiery jewel
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they aren't like that far off it's just unfortunate coincidence.

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wouldn't overthink it but if they are doing it repeatedly that's the issue they are slightly far from the clone they should be baiting.

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also where that sage is it kinda sus

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but drk is in a really good spot to make up for it

jolly flume
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if it's out and e/w cones on one side then the other side is in and n/s

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the e/w cone is pointing directly at the safe spot

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the only way any given set of aoes is resolvable is for it to be n/s safe with the in

slender lichen
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oh right

thin tartan
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wc2 overkill incident

jolly flume
thin tartan
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oh yeah fs

uncut pebble
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splatoon shoes

sleek moon
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i would say the drk/sam are standing in the best spot, if everyone can stand smilarly on their side it reduces headaches and weird wipes

slender lichen
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thank u for saying im standing in the best spot

sleek moon
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like standing on the line between both colors

rapid whale
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i stand way further back than that if im being real

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cuz it lets me dodge either cone pattern

slender lichen
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that is literally max melee

rapid whale
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n i mean as caster

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but max melee is fine

fiery jewel
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drk sam and whm mch are in really good spots

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where they are standing it's pretty much not possible to get hit by another clone

rapid whale
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getting doubled is usually because when dodging a cone someone is standing on top of their partner

fiery jewel
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it snapshots earlier

sleek moon
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yeah dodging shouldnt be a problem

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but like picto there standing so far from the line or viper standing so far close to the boss

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will make it more unpredictable

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if the dark clone is east

fiery jewel
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you can see the castbar for the dark / fire they go off before the cleaves I believe

sleek moon
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dark clone targets the 2 nearest people

rapid whale
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i stand on red dot

sleek moon
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which if it was east would have been picto gnb

fiery jewel
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if you mean pct stand on that red dot that's a horrible idea but if viper goes to where they need to be should be fine

rapid whale
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its where i stand and i do fine shrug

fiery jewel
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yeah just puts more of a risk of your clone targetting someone else but if it works it works

sleek moon
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if that works for you i wont say to do otherwise but you're putting a lot of distance between a potential east clone and you

fiery jewel
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since it is pretty far

rapid whale
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im literally closer to it than where the arrow says to go tho

jolly flume
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I stand more or less where the sage stands

fiery jewel
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not really

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where the sage is is unfriendly but fine, where you suggesting pct to go is really unfriendly but can still work

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idk hwo it works for ranged it prob makes dodging easier or smth I imagine?

jolly flume
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idk we've literally never had issues with this

fiery jewel
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ye

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cool to think abt though I guess

jolly flume
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as long as everyone does it the same way

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there should be no issue

rapid whale
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like

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the clone does not spawn on those markers

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where im standing is literally closer to the east clone than what you are saying to do lol

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they spawn in the center of the 4 white tiles

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noit those markers

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and has 0 movement ever on any cones

jolly flume
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that's a dot refresh for me anyways

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so I just wiggle

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same for when the final set goes off

trim frost
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i love when u wiggle

jolly flume
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i'm bouncin on it

sleek moon
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oh yeah bap is right

jolly flume
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and by it I mean the trampoline in my backyard

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yippee

rapid whale
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people think im trash gg

jolly flume
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you're trash and i'm raccoon

rapid whale
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if im not rank 1 ig im just trash sajjies

sleek moon
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but yeah i think just having picto closer to the line would have saved that

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i have abandoned the upcoming japanese waifu @jolly flume

worn bluff
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i haven't been playing wuwa lately but i thought everyone was skipping sigrika

rapid whale
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damn

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booba not big enough?

sleek moon
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i think everyone is after they showed the new girl

jolly flume
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but I can't justify pulling her

rapid whale
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oic

jolly flume
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and also I haven't logged in for a week and idk if I wanna play anymore

sleek moon
jolly flume
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shrine maiden lady with a longsword doing numbers?

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unheard of

worn bluff
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2nd form looks like that bleach girl

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rukia

rapid whale
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oh

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yeah its cooked

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is she the meek and innocent type or the HARD WORKING I MUST TRAIN HARDER type

jolly flume
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she's the I love the type of woman that can literally just kill me type

worn bluff
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i guess she's supposed to be the alpha-like character in wuwa but she seems kind of different

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but i guess we already got DMC character

jolly flume
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we did?

worn bluff
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idr names anymore

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blue fire gun girl

jolly flume
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oh galbrena

worn bluff
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yeah

jolly flume
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when someone says dmc I only think of vergil

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mb

rapid whale
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I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING

worn bluff
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i guess she's like bayonetta

jolly flume
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best piece of music to ever come out of a video game

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bgm 3000

rapid whale
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the lore is kinda cool too

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apparently the producer was a dmc nerd and geeked out when they got the chance to make it

sleek moon
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i could never get into galbrena's gameplay

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shit's too weird

jolly flume
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lmb sim

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also I think her ult looks lame

worn bluff
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yeah galbrena seems more like a 1.x character

sleek moon
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the aerial attack with the gun seems nice but i dont think you actually use it ever

jolly flume
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my favorite to play is still zani

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shame mine does no damage

sleek moon
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plus her msq was peak "giving the newest character the spotlight because we have to sell her"

worn bluff
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you know i built zani and phoebe and never used them

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i barely play the game outside of logging on sometimes for daily

jolly flume
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I still use them in the new boss rush endgame but they never score incredibly high compared to my top teams

sleek moon
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idk how to play zani whenever i have her in events

jolly flume
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lol dude I've been daily logging for 3 minutes for the last 8 months in wuwa

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that's why I'm thinking of just quitting

sleek moon
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ik she converts spectro into more damage but seems too complicated

worn bluff
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my go to brain off characters are carlotta and phrolova

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i haven't logged onto wuwa in like a month

rapid whale
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has power creep hit wuwa yet ik gacha games r notorious for that

jolly flume
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wuwa creep is real but not as bad as some other games

sleek moon
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augusta too whenever i use her in events i score super low, idk how to fill both bars, i just press buttons until one shines

jolly flume
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yeah idk how to play augusta

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I skipped her for the phro rerun

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don't regret it

worn bluff
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augusta MSQ was peak though

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the ending

sleek moon
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i got iuno but havent used her since 2.x lol

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my only regret pull is camellya

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i want my pulls back

jolly flume
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yeah she kinda blows now

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even in her gamemode

worn bluff
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it's peak...

jolly flume
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idk if I regret pulling anyone yet but

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backpulling s3 jinhsi in 2.3 was probably kinda questionable lol

sleek moon
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probably yeah lol

worn bluff
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i haven't done 3.0 yet

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is there anything that peak

jolly flume
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she's so bricked too because there's no supports she has that aren't better with something else

sleek moon
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aemeath's storyline

jolly flume
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zhezhi with carlotta cantarella with phro

jolly flume
worn bluff
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i've been putting it off bc i don't feel like logging on

jolly flume
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inshallah if she does not return this patch we kill solon lee

sleek moon
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they are prob gonna save her for the finale

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jesus what is going on there

jolly flume
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I want my daughter back cryy

worn bluff
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necron hands

jolly flume
sleek moon
jolly flume
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I'll begin by wearing you down.

worn bluff
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kill them.

sleek moon
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i get a chuckle out of the pause he does in meso terminal when he says "you've-- overburdened the system"

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that sentence was too much of a mouthful for the VA

jolly flume
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man

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I know 1.1 just came out but can we get 1.2 already

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where's fangyi

worn bluff
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i barely played endfield

jolly flume
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it's interesting if you're the kind of person who likes ARR

worn bluff
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bc the pity system felt so unforgiving that i was like ok hold up which gacha do i want to spend my time on

jolly flume
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lol

worn bluff
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and it turned out maybe the answer is none of them

jolly flume
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the game itself is pretty fun to me though

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I like the combat

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gacha systems definitely leave something to be desired

worn bluff
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the combat seemed cool. kind of xenoblade-y

jolly flume
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it's the most like

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actually brain on combat I've had in a gacha to date

sleek moon
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game is enjoyable for me for now but im still not really attached to any character

jolly flume
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yea

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well I like fangyi because she's hot but

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it still feels like the story stakes are quite low

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in general

sleek moon
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i like her human form but im not sold on her transform lol

jolly flume
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it's just whatever nefarith and ardashir are vaguely talking about how they're actually doing this for the good of the planet like some thanos type shit

sleek moon
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but ill prob get her since i dont really like any of the other previewed characters

jolly flume
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I want new phys units but seems unlikely for the moment

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being already the most fleshed out archetype

sleek moon
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yeah

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even rossi is going this hybrid thing that doesnt really work with pure phys

jolly flume
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I'd pull a new laevatain support I guess, akekuri doesn't really feel like she belongs in there

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and my dumbass skipped gilberta so probably her rerun at some point too

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i'm kinda deep in arknights now tbh

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playing the og and watching the anime

sick reef
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10 pulls to clear ex4 fresh 😭 i cannot do this fkn trail a 100 times

jolly flume
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welcome to why ex is the most worthless time sink content in the game

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"content"

sick reef
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at least 2 damn tokens a clear woudlve been nice

worn bluff
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99 is such an arbitrarily high number

fiery jewel
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every extreme should be 2 totem honestly

sick reef
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clear took about 6 mins. so like 700 mins for a 100 damn totems is stupid

fiery jewel
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I used to think every extreme should be 1 totem but yeah it's too much

sick reef
fiery jewel
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I don't think most extreme quality is good enough to warrant 1 totem so 100 clears

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but I think ex4 is an exception that fight was legitimately good imo

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at least on content

fiery jewel
sick reef
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ex4 doesnt have neuron activation, maybe only for ef2

fiery jewel
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ex4 it was legit fun on content though

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with the add phase & puzzles

fiery jewel
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atleast from what it asked you to do mechanic wise

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but ex3 and ex5 were the hardest would say

sick reef
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which was ex5? necron?

fiery jewel
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my dream is they yeah like halve the cost

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but then they add some other rewards

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like minion of the boss, adventurer plate of boss

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that are less totems

fiery jewel
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ex5 mechanics weren't that hard

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it's just that it had maybe the worst body check of any extreme I've ever done

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if people got sucked into the void solo phase before a certain mechanic

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it was pretty much over

sick reef
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been ages since ive done ex5, i remember mfs could not live the damn circle platform for the life of em

fiery jewel
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Mass Macabre 2 I think

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if ppl got sucked before that it was basically a wipe

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because people weren't willing to just take the death

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EX3 I think was hard because ice bridge could legitimately be a mechanic in an ultimate

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atleast anything that isn't DSR / TOP

worn bluff
sick reef
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i wanna do aadvanced merchants tale but like duty doesnt pop and there are no pfs/ is this dead already or what

worn bluff
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it's just a big number to create grind

fiery jewel
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I used to think 1 totem always was best so pf would stay active

worn bluff
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why 99? why not 200

fiery jewel
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but even then if u fall behind it's hard since extremes kinda die after first 2 weeks

sick reef
fiery jewel
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atleast on savage patch

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I think their ideology is they want ppl to keep farming it

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so it remains active

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but it doesn't really work that way

dapper zealot
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my ex3 farms was just fail ice bridge enough times to get enough echo to skip it

sick reef
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are we getting another ilvl bump before next expansion?

fiery jewel
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the 1 totem ones are literally always more popular

sick reef
fiery jewel
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idk it's very weird

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tbh

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wait doomtrain is 2 totem I think right

fiery jewel
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ice bridge is quite literally a mechanic you could see in an ultimate

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like if that mechanic was in M12S p2 the fight would objectively be harder imo just because it's a body check

fiery jewel
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I think the most we are getting after this, is slight boost from Ultimate weapon and Relic weapon, but that's not item level.

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I don't think we are getting extra gear like Chaotic

sick reef
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so we will cap at 790 i assume?

fiery jewel
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yeah until next expac

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I think endwalker ended at 690 also

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It's 100 IL every expac I think? Since ARR.

sick reef
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i see

trim frost
# fiery jewel

tbf even patch extremes always get more attention due to usually being the best weapon option for wk1 savage prog

fiery jewel
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yeah

worn bluff
fiery jewel
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Out of all the mechs in FRU I would legit place it like:

CT > UR > Diamond Dust > APOC > Ice Bridge > everything else.

dapper zealot
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bruh almost wiped to flails in normal wtf

fiery jewel
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lol

dapper zealot
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I died first, got rezzed last and still climbed back up to 3rd aggro as dnc

carmine hull
sleek moon
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660-665 for EW, 690 was job gear for dawntrail

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So 100-105 ilvl from job gear to last gear

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And 30 ilvl for leveling gear in the expansion

amber fable
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8.0 final ilvl will be 920

lyric summit
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no... yoshi p will change the formula COPIUM

tired egret
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GIVE ME FIRE, GIVE ME LIBERTY, GIVE ME JOB REWORK IN 8.0!!

sick reef
worn bluff
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rework: ilvls will be 5 higher than usual

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🤯

dull drum
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oh fuck jojo was tonight

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fuck this game

sick reef
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invincible dropped šŸ”„ ty for reminder

low hearth
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SBR šŸ”„

finite plank
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wdym jojo was tonight

craggy marsh
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Steel Balls Rub

finite plank
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sbr is released today?

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i forgot a lot of things

low hearth
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Yes

visual geyser
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It is peak

jolly flume
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what's an sbr...

pale gale
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steel ball run

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new jojo

dapper zealot
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PIZZA MOZZARELLA

robust shoal
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jojo but honse

low hearth
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Gorgonzola

novel garden
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I honestly thought sbr was a month out so many damn things to watch starting this month

finite plank
pale gale
dapper zealot
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I had high hopes for SBR

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and it was blown out of the water

sinful brook
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Before his fist went all the way through

visual geyser
wicked delta
alpine plover
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my bad man

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(all of these happened cuz downtime)

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except the weaving ig

pallid kindle
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all?

lyric summit
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well why are you pressing buffs in downtime

jolly flume
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I mean it could just be buffs getting cut off by the bosses jumping but

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what uptime window is like 15s long

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maybe end of phase in dsr p2 or top p3 or something idk

shy obsidian
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Yeah the advanced merchant’s tale is fun

alpine plover
trim frost
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i’m realizing

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we have not had a decent looking final patch art since 4.5

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why do they keep doing this ā€œbuncha faces in a circle around somethingā€ bullshit

worn bluff
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i'm tired of seeing those faces specifically

random needle
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Maybe they're convinced it'll avoid spoilers or something...? I dunno, but yeah it's not that inspiring

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Especially compared to how the 7.4 art looked like a poster you'd see advertising the Arcadion match, or 7.3 having everyone posed up

worn bluff
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i mean i guess i'm fine with underpromise, overdeliver

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i don't remember the last time they overdelivered though

zealous meteor
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im gonna overpromise and underdeliver personally

worn bluff
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you're hired

trim frost
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when was the last time a patch-introduced character was relevant for longer than the patches of the expansion they were released in

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i think it might be asahi tbh

worn bluff
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they come up with such cool characters that don't become part of the permanent cast

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it's just a personal thing but i just don't think the twins or yshtola are that cool

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she's the least interesting rhul sister

trim frost
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big and true

worn bluff
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maybe it's because i only have 1 brain cell but i prefer the dumb characters like estinien

dapper zealot
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I was reading qnh thinking it was elounge

trim frost
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i get that the scions are marketable but i’m sooooo bored of them

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they’ve had their character development

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please introduce new characters

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krile is the only one i don’t really mind because she’s been relegated to the background for so long

dapper zealot
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I feel like she's going to be pushed back in 7.5

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I mean

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Just look at the poster

wind cypress
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can we get some more world ending scenarios where I play the center of attention again?

worn bluff
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like some of them are good

trim frost
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yeah

wind cypress
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bring back that annoying ascian with the bahamut so I can punch him in the mouth

trim frost
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they are kinda very lacking in individuality both design-wise and personality-wise

worn bluff
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it's important to have like one scholar/bookworm type in the party for exposition

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but we have like... alphinaud, yshtola, urianger

wind cypress
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I'm probably going to get flamed but I don't really like erlanger much

worn bluff
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if i had to get rid of one it would probably be yshtola

jolly flume
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i'm votekicking alphinaud

worn bluff
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i don't really care that much about urianger either, but his puddingway scene was good

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alphinaud is kind of just there

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replace yshtola with sadu

trim frost
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we also have like

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an entire b team of scions with better personalities

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that we’re just not gonna use ig

worn bluff
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are you really telling me sphene isn't coming to 8.0 as a scion

wind cypress
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what about the SPENE! lione lady, we moving past that?

worn bluff
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after we got sphene with a good personality and cute outfit

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is she really just staying behind

trim frost
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the way everyone thought zero would be a mainstay because she was in duty support and then instead they tasked her with having a slow burn enemies to lovers with that bisexual armored man

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should’ve been me smh

trim frost
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maybe sphene will come back when we have a need for world politics in the msq again

wind cypress
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I liked the bird girl boss, saw how bad the world is and decided to kill it lol (endwalker)

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I can relate these days

random needle
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I'm still holding out hope for an eventual cross-shard alliance of people, like Ryne/Gaia, Zero/Golbez, Sphene, and whoever we meet in the other ones

shy obsidian
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big ass forehead

random needle
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To give Sphene a plus one, give her her wife

dapper zealot
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Please Ryne, Gaia, Zero, Golbez, Unukalhai and Cyella fixing the 13th and 1st

random needle
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I said it before, I'll say it again, throw a pop up that says "the story assumes you've done this side content, if you want context go play through it or read these Unending Codex entries we just added"

worn bluff
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she's just like me fr

dapper zealot
random needle
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I guess the question is if 8.0 and 9.0 will be more shard or star focused

coral saffron
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So does that mean Eden raids are going to get the CT "mandatory for MSQ" treatment? bigbrain

whole estuary
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that would be peak but I don't think so

random needle
coral saffron
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You know people don't want to read haha

whole estuary
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I saw 5 year old comments on Crystal Tower guides of people getting ulcers about how "raids are now being required for MSQ"

random needle
coral saffron
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Honestly, I'm just thinking out loud here

dapper zealot
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At least 8 player raids are much quicker to queue for

worn bluff
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FRU is now canon and required to progress in the MSQ

coral saffron
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Shit, I'm at the current endgame and I STILL haven't finished Pandemonium

whole estuary
dapper zealot
random needle
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Fools... You would stoke the fires of conflict?

coral saffron
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I just want to see the new Ascian (Helmet?) interact with Gaia

whole estuary
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wait, this means I could do Ultimates with Trust NPCs

dapper zealot
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If Gaia can be our friend, surely another ascian can as well

coral saffron
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I'm just tired of fighting Ascians, personally

whole estuary
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we should fight remnant Allagan creations instead

worldly grotto
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Halibut seems like fun

dapper zealot
whole estuary
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if we fight her, we would use white au'ra cite

coral saffron
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Boooooooooooo

random needle
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I think the fundamental thing is that the Ascians need to be interesting characters, and they've been consistently doing that since Shadowbringers

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If we were still fighting ARR/HW era Ascians... Snore.

dapper zealot
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Yeah Lahee was a byproduct of arr/hw times

coral saffron
dapper zealot
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And I don't even remember the other one

random needle
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Nabriales :icant:

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Igeyorhm :icant:

dapper zealot
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Just unfortunate they didn't have stuff planned out for them yet. Would be cool seeing Nabriales and Igeyorhm get some personality retroactively like Lahee in pandae

wind cypress
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there a good healing for savage guide on youtube somewhere? I tend to end up doing the bulk of healing while the other healer just dpses most of the time? should I wait a few seconds after the raid takes a raid wide to see if they're going to pop something or..

low hearth
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Come claim if you're able a spot at this table

deep gale
# wind cypress there a good healing for savage guide on youtube somewhere? I tend to end up doi...

There isn't really a fast and simple answer for this, but one thing you can do to maximize your damage is to give regens / hots time to tick. The party more often than not does not immediately need to be healed after something like a raidwide, or if they require healing they don't necessarily need to be healed to full.

At the same time, there's a lot of value in playing safe. More information would also be helpful, e.x. are you playing shield? The shield healer has the ability to take care of a disproportionate amount of healing if they're spamming GCD shields.

I (or someone else) could give more specific advice with a log or two, but at the end of the day the reality of an unoptimized healing environment (PF) is that resources tend to get used inefficiently.

trim frost
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you could stand to look at a timeline of the fight to know when to use what mitigation

rapid whale
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things like hots need to be allowed to tick

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getting people back to full instantly when there is no immediate danger = bad

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yea 60% overheal and 73% overwritten shields

wind cypress
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I decided to run a healer for the first time in awhile for some practice on m9s for example, parsed 97 on heals 37k hps on scholar, white mage did around 25, 3 pars eon dps (13k) and 37% over heal

rapid whale
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yes

wind cypress
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4 deaths and a bunch of people were blowing up lol

rapid whale
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like

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you realize that a high heal parse isnt good right

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and that one person over healing can make the other heal parse look bad for no reason

wind cypress
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yeah I don't want to heal much but uh with that group I carry them over the finish (was a clear group) or the die to damage xD

rapid whale
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think of it like constantly having your rep overwritten

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as a tank

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so then your log says you repped nothing

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idk im seeing like

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8 gcd heals at full hp

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which is normal cuz of shields

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but

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it says 82% of it went to waset

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which to me implies you were kinda just panic healing

sinful brook
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Could also be a gross misunderstanding of what tools each healer has and what they do

wind cypress
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watching tomestone replay šŸ¤”

rapid whale
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to b clear

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im not doubting the 1st time clearing party didnt also suck

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just saying the metric you are using is not buenoi

sinful brook
#

Esp in m9

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But heal parse doesn't mean you played well

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High or low

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The colour isn't representative of good healer gameplay

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Also part of the difficulty of healing is when things go badly

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If people knew what they were doing you can just map things to the timeline and call it a day tbh

#

There's no random damage you always know when stuff happens

wind cypress
#

yeah, just trying to get a bead on whether my low dps parse was good/bad when the group was wiping and getting vulns

#

think I hate a dot during flails too which didn't help

sinful brook
#

If they're getting vulns in savage that's part of the mech

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And then additional damage that kills them is a mistake

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There's no regular mode vuln stacks anymore

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If they're getting damage downs that also a mistake

#

Like I also don't disagree that those dots require extra attention

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But resource allocation matters

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You don't necessarily have to mash gcds to solve it

#

Healers generally have enough other tools to allot for those too

wind cypress
#

hm yeah seems like my dps crashed after the fight was ongoing, went from 19k -> 13k

sinful brook
#

19k isn't really great to start tbh

#

But your DPS is going to tank when you panic and when things go badly

wind cypress
#

on training dummy I hit 20k with 780 gear, close to my max lol

sinful brook
#

For reference my high purples last tier were 17 to 18k

wind cypress
#

wouldn't mind a dps time line, wonder if tomestone has that

#

starting to get into analysing parses to get better 🤣 , maybe I'll try some more runs this evening

low hearth
#

what

sinful brook
#

Idk really what to tell you but

#

Healer DPS is just mashing your 1 and not dropping your dot

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You make sure to get 2 instances of your dot in pot and buffs

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And that's like all the opti

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Keeping uptime with mechs and stuff too

low hearth
#

like casting glare more

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especially during 2 minutes

rapid whale
#

the opti in healer is having an efficient heal plan to actually let you hit gcds

#

theres always the big variable of coheal but shrug

wind cypress
#

found my dps timeline, looks like 330 ish my dps crashed to nothing, same with 5, 645 -> 9 minutes

#

I'll record and take a look at the new few, 22k dps -> ended up at 13k, me healing all the dying people while the white mage dps-ed with their 22k dps parse

rapid whale
#

i mean

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ima be real

#

right now you sound like you are coping hard

wind cypress
#

I probably over healed some but don't think I was spamming šŸ¤” so much easier to tell on a tank/dps

#

at least on my tank I know Isucked

rapid whale
#

getting chadded out happens, yes

#

but

#

it's not like your coheal had a single digit heal parse

#

it's more likely your party just sucked and were dyign to random shit

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like

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look at the heal parse of our m11s reclear

#

neither healer was above a 26

#

that was a relatively smooth run

#

going back to what channy said, when shit is smooth heal plans can be optimized very much

wind cypress
#

mm smooth runs, I need some for a good base line

rapid whale
#

my point is

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you are conflating a messy run with getting chadded

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because the other person parsed higher than you

#

when that simply isnt the case

low hearth
sinful brook
#

My sage this tier did the ex with 3 i700 pieces and a mush mash of stuff below that

#

And he did more than 14k

#

Even with just mashing heals

sleek moon
#

was looking at my ex logs, i healed a few runs one day with full crafted, safety shields and all, and almost purpled it

#

and im really bad with keeping track of dot

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also no pot

#

idk how healer mains fumble it so hard

sinful brook
#

Bro my first clears of several floors in the last couple tiers were purple

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I just hit button

#

I'd spreadlo all the time and concitations pre raid damage too

#

Like for sch people are just afraid to ruin 2 in prog or something

sleek moon
#

afraid of ruin 2 but also thinking using stacks for heals will condemn their parse

rapid whale
#

the classic 1 less soil for 1 more gcd heal

#

my buddy was in a static with a sch who unironically used less soils than wk and had the gall to blame the team for lack of mits

#

when the rest of the team was literally 99 parsing heals lmfao

#

needless to say that one blew up

jolly flume
#

the amount you heal is correlated so little with your parse it's almost laughable to blame getting chadded or having to heal more for your lack of performance

#

pressing like 8-10 extra succors is the difference between me parsing 99 and 95

#

anywhere below high blue low purple you can't even begin to say it's just because you're healing

#

not when I have logs across like every fight this expansion where I have blue to purple hps alongside purple to orange dps

worn bluff
#

i'm kind of tempted to grab a crafted set to see how it goes in m9

#

i've never healed endgame though

rapid whale
#

do it coward

worn bluff
#

what if i just

#

gcd shield for each raidwide and then rotate the other stuff randomly based on vibes

jolly flume
#

if you gcd shield everything it's pretty hard to die to anything short of a fixer equivalent

rapid whale
#

im trying to think of anything that hits that hard other than fixer

#

ig the double raid wide in m10s in crafted gear

worn bluff
#

the only thing is i'm not used to someone getting hit by avoidable damage being my responsibility

#

beyond like a short mit as tank

#

as tank i'm just like here take this, good luck

#

and then it's someone else's problem

jolly flume
#

I mean it's more or less the same thing besides that you have more options of what to throw at them and a priority order you use them in

#

nobody in pf is expecting you to be a recovery god anyway

#

we're bare minimum gamers here just don't let the party die to damage outright and the rest is their problem

jolly flume
#

like the raidwide that opens up the first add phase you etac succor after it

#

when there's not a single instance of damage for the next full minute

#

like I'm not standing over your shoulder watching the pull but I think any feeling of getting chadded by your coheal is self inflicted with how it looks

#

you gotta slow down on that shit, it's ridiculously easy to inflate your hps on shield healer by just not allowing the other to heal anything

#

but that doesn't mean that you're doing all the work in a good way

#

also you lost like a full minute and a half of cast time to clipping weaves I'd probably fix that

wind cypress
#

šŸ¤” hm some good feed back, going to try again this evening to chill on the heals a little bit and kinda watch how it pans out

jolly flume
#

healing is a two player job

#

trust the coheal until they prove they can't be trusted

#

to an extent, anyway

random needle
#

We finally finished e12s in my old content static so people decided to shuffle around roles a bit for EW

I'm still on shield heals peepoglad

#

We probably clear ex3 tomorrow, ex1 and 2 were almost complete jokes

jolly flume
#

healer jail cannot be escaped

random needle
#

So true bestie

Even if someone else offered, I'd probably still be paranoid about getting the feeling of "I could be doing your job better"

#

I'm enjoying ex3 a lot so far at least, it's nice when fights have more than 1 mechanic where I have to think even slightly

rapid whale
#

you heal because you like to support your team mates, i heal because i don't trust anyone else to properly heal. we are not the same

rapid whale
#

sees unknown 01 join on healer

#

die to raidwide in 787 gear

#

checks out

fierce matrix
#

you never trust the coheal

#

skip step 1 and go to step 2

#

99 healing parse with 60% overheal

visual geyser
#

i wonder if this person will get redditors calling them racist these are the same colors as my character

valid solar
#

what

visual geyser
#

🄺

uncut pebble
tired egret
#

the comments don't seem to be that bad there

clear plume
#

Not using the fluorescent lipstick helps a lot for them

tired egret
#

yeeeaaaaaa....

dreamy whale
#

Hello my chungies

visual geyser
#

Hello

low hearth
#

joining a c41 for a fight you havent cleared since endwalker

rapid whale
#

mb i wanted the mount

low hearth
#

another pain legend Classic

proven pivot
#

Do i need to max out the hw relic stats to move on to the next step?

low hearth
#

hw relic stats dont matter

#

u mean ew or sum?

proven pivot
#

No i mean the thing with umbrite and crystal sand

#

Anima’s growth

fierce matrix
#

you need to finish the step yes

#

you haven't finished the step

#

its not maxing out the stats, its still doing the relic lol

proven pivot
#

Dear heavenly father

#

It’s like ew relics but with early xiv fuckery

torn kindle
#

The entirety of the EW ā€œrelicā€ costs less than the Umbrite step.

#

EW relic is a glorified tomestone weapon

proven pivot
#

Yeah

#

My fav weapon when i was a sprout was sage’s EW relic but i kinda grew to not like it, even tho it’s the only weapon that works with the tech theme they went for

zealous meteor
#

GNB works well too

#

final RPR stage looks nice even though the tech theme doesn't work great

random needle
#

I like the particle effects on the MNK one, so I did a little sneaky to get just the particles

zealous meteor
#

holy shit cheater

#

im calling the cops

low hearth
#

healers presssing ZERO gcd heals might be the worst thing in this game

remote gate
low hearth
#

like watching main tank die to autos is crazy

versed kayak
#

muh parse

trim frost
#

this isn’t about gcds but

#

have you seen what the white mage was doing in my 12-2 last week

#

šŸ˜€

worn bluff
low hearth
craggy marsh
craggy marsh
worn bluff
low hearth
#

white mage players Classic

craggy marsh
#

Rep 1 really pisses me off bc people just straight up don't notice if they did the mech wrong

#

"I didn't die so that means I did it right"

sleek moon
#

People learn where to stand, but they don't understand why they are standing where they are

rapid whale
#

smile

craggy marsh
#

and let the pf win

worn bluff
#

the opps were the PFs we made along the way

fiery jewel
low hearth
#

progam loop sucks

#

way too hard

#

Deltascape is /bgm 0

pallid kindle
#

u can just type /bgm and it'll mute it instead of setting it to 0

low hearth
#

think someone hit the alt f4 angle mid pull Classic

rapid whale
#

u ever heard of someones sub running out mid pull

low hearth
#

happened to me CAUGHT

robust shoal
wicked delta
#

i didnt know that could happen if you were down a person

sick dirge
#

lmao

tepid briar
sleek moon
#

the forbidden time

#

(all subs are processed at this hour)

tulip anvil
rapid whale
#

@craggy marsh

round burrow
#

I'm ready to get tank bustered by m11s

tepid briar
#

just finished the 7.3 boss fight and paved in solitude always hits

rapid whale
round burrow
rapid whale
tepid briar
tepid briar
#

but 1:50 is definitely peak for the zone

rapid whale
#

The way the war drums fight with the sad melodies is utter peak

round burrow
#

(I hope you don't mind me calling you that, it's meant to be a genderneutral term)

tepid briar
#

god I really hope that song shows up in a concert sometime

#

1:50 on bass on stage would be so fire

rapid whale
#

The lone oboe

tepid briar
#

actually the whole song on bass

round burrow
#

:( endless sphene when she said "Lamaty'i"

#

Idk that line when it was voiced it was so heart wrenching

tepid briar
#

only thing I didn't like so far was that I really don't like emo antagonists lol

rapid whale
#

Calyx is such a cliche

tepid briar
tepid briar
round burrow
tepid briar
#

but the whole "stone faced researcher emo boy who only knows data" is overused

round burrow
#

I believe in fucking calyx slander

tepid briar
round burrow
#

I WILL DEFEND SPHENE WITH MY LIFE

rapid whale
#

Something I don't think they captured on the eng translation was the simulant sohene talked like a gyaru which I guess the eng equivalent would be a valley girl

tepid briar
#

also lmao at breaking the memory bank where everyone just stared at each other for like 10 seconds and almost losing

round burrow
#

Wait, what point of story are you at in post?

#

I wanna make sure because

#

yeah

tepid briar
#

I just finished the 7.3 fight

round burrow
#

Okay, i wasn't expectinh

tepid briar
#

so the 7.3 trial

round burrow
#

Sphene

#

To fight with us

#

And I was so happy that she did.

#

SHE'S SO CUTE SOBS

tepid briar
#

I got spoiled on some 7.3 sphene stuff from the comments

#

but I wasn't expecting us to get ||original|| sphene back

round burrow
#

Oh darn

#

Im so sorry

tepid briar
#

like "wow this song hits with 7.3 sphene"

round burrow
#

:(

tepid briar
#

I brought it upon myself haha

round burrow
#

Yeah the fact she wanted

#

To love her people to the utmost importance

tepid briar
#

I did enjoy end of DT + post-DT

#

but at the same time it was a little teeth-grinding how we keep falling for the same shit over and over

#

like I think we got betrayed by endless sphene like two or three times in dt (not post-dt)

round burrow
#

I love it because 1) its my partner's culture. He's Hispanic and there's some food and native american traditions regarding dt 2) because of the new animations they've been trying to put in

true beacon
round burrow
#

Like say

#

The one with koana

#

where he does the sniper shot

tepid briar
#

oh yeah that one is fire

round burrow
#

I wasn't expecting that to play out

tepid briar
#

speaking of new stuff

round burrow
#

BUT IT WAS SO fucking fire

tepid briar
#

I am kinda liking the investigative minigame they had

#

for the directors room and stuff

round burrow
#

I liked that one too

#

I want them to do that more

tepid briar
#

opens locker oops, all calyx

tepid briar
#

but you know what, anything other than fetch quests

round burrow
#

NO WHEN I SAW THAT LOCKER I CRIED

#

CAUSE FYM THE DIRECTOR HAD A SHRINE OF THE DUDE??

tepid briar
#

bro's always alive in someone's memories

#

as for what type of memories... :)

round burrow
#

We don't talk about it lmaoo

tepid briar
#

I wonder if we'll go into more background on alexandria pre-storm surge... maybe not though

#

the first didn't get that much exposition

#

granted, to me it was a lot of "holy shit another emo deadpan guy I have to listen through"

rapid whale
tepid briar
#

you know what's funny

normal blade
#

Static sans 1 raidboss

'MY GODS! HERE COMES THE BRUTE BOMBER WITH A STEEL CHAIR!?"

-Metem Probably

tepid briar
#

I know about the 7.4 trial out of context

rapid whale
#

congrats

tepid briar
#

and I'm like ||"how the hell does this train make it into the story???"||

normal blade
#

Chew-Chew motherfucker

tepid briar
#

along with the announcer's voice LMAO

#

and 7.5 is apparently back to garlemald?

#

except an ACTUAL city

normal blade
#

"Stop Fucking doing that!"

tepid briar
normal blade
#

He deserves the F word

worn bluff
true beacon
#

that video was such a crock of shit

low hearth
tepid briar
#

also lmao at this youtube comment

#

"No planet threatening entities," they said. "Filler beach episode," they said. WoL grumbles and pulls out the orange fruit gummy again

tepid briar
round burrow
#

wuk lamat, my wife :(

tepid briar
#

I'm on the first quest of 7.4

round burrow
#

Who's being mean to my wuk lamat

#

MY WIFEEE

true beacon
#

you missed the entire second half of 2024

tepid briar
#

WoL at beginning of DT: "wow haha let's go to tulli and stomp on some noobs, it's just a regular competition right?"

#

WoL at end of DT: Despair

round burrow
#

Nah fr

tepid briar
#

WoL thought they could take a vacation

round burrow
#

wol came back with depression instead

rapid whale
# round burrow I haven't

their major point was that calyx serves as the ultimate foil if koana was actually the mc, "You wanted a society full of technology, witness it"

true beacon
#

yeah that

#

doesn't work?

rapid whale
#

shrug

#

another point they had was the whole, "you're telling me a latina princess can't handle a spicy taco"

true beacon
#

Koana was autistically focused on growing tech to help, without learning how his "help" would affect his people

#

the

rapid whale
#

ya that was the point

true beacon
#

the fantasy Indian spice?

#

for someone who can't taste much?

#

yeha

#

that'll fuck up 95% of people

tepid briar
#

another youtube comment

#

"No more shall man have instant login to bear him to Eorzea. Henceforth, he shall queue" - Yoshi P

#

sunders the login servers

tepid briar
#

"the reeds are out of aether, why don't we get aether from elsew-"

sleek moon
#

ngl the biggest thing im waiting for is just seeing what convoluted way they will use to implement cross dc pf

tepid briar
#

drains an entire reflection

sleek moon
#

as usual its gonna be something nobody will expect

amber fable
#

As long as it allows a region wide pf

tepid briar
rapid whale
#

ngl i just assumed when they were doing the cloud test server, it was specifically for cross dc pf because people were saying it felt like playing on 50ish ping even if they normally got more, and evened the playing field between jp/eu/na, so i 100% was under the belief they were gonna just use cloud server tech for instanced content

tepid briar
#

when the pf starts it'll just throw you over to aether or something

tepid briar
#

at the same time it's square enix

boreal pumice
amber fable
#

Less of transfer you and more of connecting you with someone from other dc

rapid whale
#

yea like it would just make a node (idk tech terms) for the specific PF to connect to

#

thats what i imagined at least

tepid briar
#

you have to be on the same DC to do content

amber fable
#

Idk

#

How their dc hardware is like

tepid briar
#

I'm assuming the fact that there's a queue for dc transfer means the server has to throw your character data over to another dc

rapid whale
#

it's a toaster connected to a cat's automatic feeder

tepid briar
#

this is square enix so don't expect them to do something fancy like "everyone's inventory is on a single server"

#

I wouldn't be surprised if it chucked your entire who knows how large character data when you moved

#

this is the same company which struggles to add more item slots

sleek moon
#

yeah your character data basically does a server transfer every time you dc travel

#

but leaving behind some stuff like retainers

tepid briar
#

and given how all the scraped data on github is in like, csv format

#

I wouldn't be surprised if the data storage was hideously unoptimized too

sleek moon
#

the source of most of the problems in this game is how they handle character data

#

its terrible

amber fable
#

Thing is if you had to transfer and the target dc got congested

#

It would fuck up loading instance and you're stuck on black screen

tepid briar
#

that's the price you pay for cross-instance PF

#

alternatively, they make you move over the instant you join

#

instead of when content starts

tepid briar
#

or at least with csv it'd probably be some shit like ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Glamour Prism,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

pallid kindle
worn bluff
rapid whale
#

if they do open up cross dc pf, i wonder how long until we get primal people being all like, "was pf always this toxic??"

worn bluff
#

assuming there were any primal raiders left on primal

visual geyser
#

lol

#

Cross df and I don’t have to leave aether to play ranked

low hearth
#

@rapid whale what does this mean

#

god all those buttons healers have at 90 and mfs keep dying to tower soak

clear plume
#

Buddy mit the squishies

#

So they don’t die to tower soak

low hearth
#

like any 3 or 4

worn bluff
#

i used to buddy mit squishies in glooper until one of them said the noise scared them into messing up the mechanic SadgePlant

low hearth
#

i dont gotta buddy mit if healers arent drooling?

#

healer diff?

clear plume
#

Why would healers do more when mit sheet puts it to tanks

#

?

low hearth
#

mit sheet made by parsing healers so they dont gotta gcd heal

clear plume
#

Top may not be a fight for u if u want to not press free mit

low hearth
#

all i got is nascent bruh

clear plume
#

Yeah and all the mit sheet wants is for u to use it on the prange/caster in your party before one of their hits?

tepid briar
#

fuck

#

7.3 don't make you cry challenge

fiery jewel
#

2 healer they do like 20% dps of party it's only fair

#

TOP hit very hard not like joke FRU

low hearth
#

ok

visual geyser
jolly flume
#

a tank personal is free, there's nothing else to use it on, and you can literally solo heal someone from 0 to 30k

#

can the healers technically do it themselves yeah that's not an excuse to not press a literal broken button for free that can cover for peoples mistakes esp in what sounds like fresh prog

wicked delta
#

Wallahi

low hearth
#

we got walled on pantokrator that was ass

thin tartan
tepid briar
worn bluff
#

i thought this was the endfield channel

tepid briar
#

random raiding question for healers, does it feel like tab doesn't work half the time? do I have to be physically staring at the boss for tab to work or something?

#

I press a button on my MMO mouse to target someone, heal them, and then sometimes I press tab tab tab and it doesn't target the boss again...

shy obsidian
#

so the cooldowns for Spirits Within and Circle of Scorn are really forgiving, right? like, just gotta make sure they don't go too far outside the 20-second window if I'm remembering correctly

low hearth
#

yea just press them on cooldown

jolly flume
#

strictly on cooldown as much as possible

shy obsidian
#

but on the offchance i need to go far, the cooldown is still forgiving, right?

jolly flume
#

which sucks but is how it is

tepid briar
#

groan

trim frost
shy obsidian
#

i mean, the drift isn't so bad that having to go far away won't affect how much they stay within buffs too much

tepid briar
#

my dude there is a single boss pummeling the party, please let me target it

jolly flume
#

or use vanilla mouseover which is like

#

okay but very not great

tepid briar
low hearth
#

yo @jolly flume yo

tepid briar
#

the one thing mouseover is really nice for is for ground targeting

jolly flume
#

what

#

ok good talk

low hearth
#

what

#

for pantokrator

#

there should like never be a 6-2 split?

#

that shit was weird bruh

jolly flume
#

erm no...

worn bluff
low hearth
#

u only swap over if u have to flex

#

idk how everyone was on the wrong side

jolly flume
#

probably got the funny sw ne cones pattern where nobody knows what to do

low hearth
#

dont u just rotate clockwise

jolly flume
#

yes

low hearth
#

but if someone was on the wrong side from the start i guess its cooked

jolly flume
#

lowkey even if you start on the wrong side as long as you're not 1 or 3 you can just flex back late

trim frost
shy obsidian
#

unfortunately there are some times where I have to move far and I can't Intervene in time šŸ’”

trim frost
#

wdym

#

it's just melee uptime like every other melee

wicked delta
#

Most strats cater to you getting the most out of uptime anyway

#

So idk man

#

Greed more

trim frost
#

woah arched chiyo

jolly flume
#

then either shift your first cd use forward so you can hit it before you disconnect or just accept that you have to drift and stop caring because everyone else will have to as well

trim frost
#

thats why i go to balance to look at fight-specific openers in case there's ways to better align tools

jolly flume
#

like I said originally hit it on cd as much as possible

#

the operative words being possible

#

if it's not possible what are you gonna do lol

trim frost
#

im gonna throw a fit on the square enix official forums

jolly flume
#

raaaaahhhhh

wicked delta
round burrow
#

Curious about those endwalker hitboxes

wicked delta
#

I mean

#

Just look at the ones in Pandaemonium

#

They’re massive

shy obsidian
trim frost
#

fym idk šŸ’”

low hearth
craggy marsh
#

@rapid whale Update dw about getting me a clear tomorrow someone kidnapped me right before I was about to go to bed

low hearth
#

congrats

worn bluff
#

the dot snapshots buffs on application so just try to use it within 20s buff

#

so drifting just potentially makes you lose a use

amber fable
#

A few second drift wont do shit

#

Unless you drift every use

craggy marsh
#

I was extremely nervous but i'll take a grey for my first time clear

#

Now I know the fight isn't as bad and can perform better next time

worn bluff
#

i think my 99 in M11 i drifted circle/exp like 4 GCDs and clipped my GCD a bunch

#

just crit

#

you should know the fundamentals and try to stick to them as much as possible but mistakes happen

craggy marsh
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Ya i'll never be a orange chad but aslong as I improve every clear then i'm happy

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purple is okie for me

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I would've been a green but we had someone almost wipe us during idyllic towers and needed a healer lb3

rapid whale
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gdi now i gotta get a pf reclear xdd

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jk itw as pf either way

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Huge congrats tho

craggy marsh
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Apolocheese for making you wait for nothing

rapid whale
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It's just an alt idc lol

craggy marsh
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fair enuff

trim frost
rapid whale
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lets go now

trim frost
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oh

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don’t involve me

dapper zealot
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Too late

trim frost
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i’m busy rn šŸ„€

dapper zealot
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Yeah busy reclearing

trim frost
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nuh uh

rapid whale
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busy hating me

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no pf up gg

low hearth
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medias res GIGACOOKED

trim frost
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tomorrow maybe possibly

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i still feel like i need to sim idyllic more lol

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i think i'll probably just dump my books into 11 books bc i'm not starving for a weapon anymore

worn bluff
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i prob want GNB and DRG weapon before i start turning 12 books into other books

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but i'll prob be done with 11 by then anyways

jolly flume
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I want a gnb weapon but I probably won't be able to get one unless I somehow commit myself to more pf reclears

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on the bright side I guess it technically doesn't matter since I only actually want it for ulti so I can just use that weapon instead

rapid whale
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totem or relic smile

jolly flume
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idk why those sent out of order

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gladge

sleek moon
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man looks like im ending this tier with 7 out of 8 pages, gonna have to skip raid next week for RL

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though cant complain, already got 3 weapons

rapid whale
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wat

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just do a reclear in pf

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wats rl 2think

worn bluff
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i only want GNB weapon in case i stop being a chicken and get off PLD

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for ulti

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realistically i'll probably still be PLD despairge

rapid whale
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gg niko flamed all paladin mains

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themis in tears

sleek moon
rapid whale
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oh real life

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im so chronically online

tepid briar
worn bluff
inner shadow
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Another step done - all crafters are 90, that took me almost all day yesterday khloe

thin tartan
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it is always clearable

trim frost
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wtf happened to ur markers

thin tartan
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its a smiley face

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!!

worn bluff
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clear me villy

thin tartan
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ok sure

worn bluff
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i got to panto like 2 yrs ago

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close enough for c41

rapid whale
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c4niko

trim frost
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he who shall not be named in there...

rapid whale
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i dont think wk does top

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or did you mean fake ki

trim frost
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🤫 šŸ§

shy obsidian
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ngl i'm surprised people are putting up listings like these

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i literally just floor tanked to comprehend all the mechanics in two runs

rapid whale
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now do it in savage

shy obsidian
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hahahhahhahahhahhahahhaha

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i don't have the time for that

shy obsidian
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o hright

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me stupid

amber fable
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Another is criterion

shy obsidian
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by the way.... how much paste is the advanced version givin me

amber fable
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Well what was considered criterion tier in ew

shy obsidian
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soooooooo

trim frost
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nice one

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check the consolegameswiki it should be updated with paste amounts

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you can literally just queue into advanced there's no need for pf

shy obsidian
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party matching, or solo...

trim frost
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matching

shy obsidian
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oooh 3 peeps already

trim frost
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via df it'll always try to get a 4-man group

shy obsidian
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also, 17 pastes per run?????

trim frost
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but if you had One friend you could jump in as duo

shy obsidian
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seems like Square Enix finally found the audience for the variants: people who were too lazy to blitz through the paste grind lol

amber fable
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Would be stupid if it didnt gave

trim frost
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leveling roulette spam is probably still more efficient though

shy obsidian
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and the amount of tomestones I get from it is pretty okay too

trim frost
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smart guy

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you're queueing for the criterion

amber fable
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Another is criterion

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Literally typed it above

shy obsidian
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oh god

amber fable
shy obsidian
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i've been blinded by the shinies

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was setting it to Duty Complete / Duty Completion a good idea