endgame-lounge

[jolly flume]

for now

my grandpa was bald

[timber stratus]

then why are you in turkey

[jolly flume]

idk

[wicked delta]

You’re finished ngl

[stray forge]

why is portugal cringe an american i met in russia highly recommended lisbon

[timber stratus]

because i am not from portugal so its cringe

[alpine plover]

cuz all americans go there

[trim frost]

is the guy from fnaf just blue guy to you

[amber fable]

Man this pll was basically

look forward to this at fanfest or part 2

[alpine plover]

if you look like top retiring countries for americans

#1 is portugal

[wicked delta]

Ummm it looks like violet to me

[alpine plover]

[timber stratus]

do not go to sweden

ass country

[stray forge]

wouldnt #1 be america

[kind relic]

But Sweden is awesome

[stray forge]

[wicked delta]

Do not go to the Netherlands or I will do something drastic

[jolly flume]

I'm not white enough to make it in scandinavia

[timber stratus]

norway is just superior travel place to sweden in every way

[kind relic]

#1 of reputation going down the drain!

[timber stratus]

norway is beautiful

[wicked delta]

Norway…

[kind relic]

..I'm literally dutch hello

[wicked delta]

I must say nothing.

[timber stratus]

norfuckingway...

[alpine plover]

@dapper zealot let's visit tobi

[jolly flume]

there are too many dutch people in this channel

[timber stratus]

i would not openly admit to being dutch but good on you

[dapper zealot]

jump tobi 😌

[stray forge]

lowkey true

[kind relic]

Gekoloniseerd

[jolly flume]

toby has been marked for elimination

[wicked delta]

Why me

What did I do

[stray forge]

I used to want to go to dekmantel but idk anymore...

[alpine plover]

wait

[trim frost]

you know

[alpine plover]

tobi

[jolly flume]

what haven't you done

[alpine plover]

if you are dutch

doesn't that mean that you are

like 3m tall

[wicked delta]

WHAT

[trim frost]

HA

[thin tartan]

tobis dutch?????????????????????????????????????????

[jolly flume]

he's not ethnically dutch

[alpine plover]

[jolly flume]

he just lives there

[wicked delta]

Yeah im not ethnically Dutch

[alpine plover]

oh nvm then

[jolly flume]

tiny ass creature

[stray forge]

right after chiyo said he was twice his size

[jolly flume]

5'2

[wicked delta]

Im from South America

[stray forge]

im dying

[kind relic]

I wish I was taller.. I'm only like 173cm :c

[alpine plover]

chiyo saying that literally gave me that idea

[wicked delta]

SHUT UP stop flaming me

[vast jacinth]

Taller then me

Than?

[thin tartan]

177.7

[timber stratus]

Im like 183 but my chest goes out 20cm so we good

[thin tartan]

[kind relic]

I wanna be so tall that I can fluster cute girls by standing next to them

[vast jacinth]

Idk english hard

[thin tartan]

i wish iw as like just

182

[tulip wraith]

i did it

[jolly flume]

nice boobs dude

[timber stratus]

thanks broseph

its so hard to buy shirts

[vast jacinth]

Forky has those gains

[wicked delta]

[trim frost]

post your boobs more

baby hungry

[timber stratus]

[jolly flume]

[sick reef]

is there a pll discussion room or do we just yap

[kind relic]

https://tenor.com/view/booby-bluefootedbooby-blue-footed-booby-sunglasses-gif-1780508481382696321

[stray forge]

wtf

those are like

[vast jacinth]

I say yap

[stray forge]

300% not the same color

[amber fable]

There was nothing in pll worth discussing

Wait for fanfest

[timber stratus]

I can summarize it for you

Please look forward to it

there u go

this goes for every single part 1 live letter ever btw

[tulip wraith]

now im not here seeing purples as blues, but some of those were fucked

especially the reds

[wicked delta]

I should try again on pc

[timber stratus]

The blues are the hardest for me and pinks, i smurf on the rest

[wicked delta]

Maybe I fare better

[thin tartan]

its okay tobi

[tulip wraith]

this one took me like 10 seconds but it was easy

[timber stratus]

i got 0.0035 as my best i think

[thin tartan]

its okay if ur eyes are homophobic

heterophobic sorry

[wicked delta]

[tulip wraith]

i completely missed likeeee 4 of them

[trim frost]

something like this i have to zoom in a little to see the difference but i do notice it

[stray forge]

wtf it can be all the way on the side?

I guess that makes sense

so that u dont just stare at the middle the entire time

[kind relic]

Can I blame my astigmatism on me being bad at color

[jolly flume]

try this instead https://dialed.gg/

[wicked delta]

???????????????????????

[kind relic]

Pls

[daring pine]

tobi

[jolly flume]

we were playing this in ast lounge in balance

two weeks ago

[daring pine]

itd on the right

[timber stratus]

That one is piss bro

[jolly flume]

shits hard man

[tulip wraith]

ggs

[jolly flume]

nah man I blue parsed

[visual geyser]

#1161031547634327572

[tulip wraith]

I SEE IT NOW

[visual geyser]

Or here

[timber stratus]

I keep failing the chimp test on human benchmark

[random needle]

Are we sure Toby's eyes are okay

[timber stratus]

But i have 160ms reactions atleast

[visual geyser]

I forget this isn’t the main channel

[alpine plover]

where tf

[jolly flume]

half my server failed that

[visual geyser]

I have had the main channel muted for years now

[jolly flume]

I peaked at 11 on a lucky run

[timber stratus]

Chimps are op no?

[jolly flume]

the chimps got my number

[timber stratus]

needs to be patched

[visual geyser]

Haven’t been in there since forever lol

[wicked delta]

WHAT

[alpine plover]

nvm i saw it

[timber stratus]

Slightly left of the middle tobi

[amber fable]

Its left mid

[visual geyser]

#general-discussion

[stray forge]

none of these are particularly hard i feel like its probably because of my monitor tho

[amber fable]

Its extreme fine gradient there..i still cant see below

Gg

[jolly flume]

all these color tests are free with a good screen

[wicked delta]

this is some BULLSHIT

[stray forge]

when i move these from one monitor to the other the difference becomes way harder to spot

[alpine plover]

left

[jolly flume]

I look at these on my macbook and it's night and day

[valid solar]

its way easier on phones with their OLEDS and pixel density

[alpine plover]

^

[visual geyser]

Link this game

[kind relic]

My phone is lcd..

[alpine plover]

i moved my screen upwards

[jolly flume]

this guys phone has an oled

[visual geyser]

Pls

[timber stratus]

I got very dense pixels

[stray forge]

my monitor is only an ips lol

but its very clear

[jolly flume]

my home monitor is qd oled

i'm staring at my piss phone rn though

[wicked delta]

DUDE FUCK YOU MAN

[amber fable]

Left same as previous color

[tulip wraith]

nah theyre lying

[timber stratus]

one of my 3 monitors is oled and my phone is oled

[amber fable]

Same location on this

[stray forge]

i haven't upgraded my phone in like

[valid solar]

most of the higher end phones nowadays do dont they ?

[stray forge]

8 years

barely use that shit except for discord/texting

and soundcloud

[kind relic]

I have a Samsung Galaxy a13 from like.. 3 years ago?

[jolly flume]

idk I still have an iphone 12 pro because I have no reason to get a new one lol

[kind relic]

I don't like this phone tho

[jolly flume]

I just type on discord and do endfield dailies

[vestal hollow]

all of these are obvious

[kind relic]

But at least it has a headphone jack

[amber fable]

I broke my op7...lasted me good 5 years

[valid solar]

thats an oled

[wicked delta]

This test is too fucking hard

Man

[valid solar]

use your phone dawg itll be easier

[kind relic]

I had a huawei mate 9 before this phone

[tulip wraith]

surely you jest...

[vestal hollow]

i dont

[kind relic]

And before that an lg g5, I miss that phone

Lg come back pls I beg

[jolly flume]

tony

toby

please do this one

it'll be funny

https://dialed.gg/

[valid solar]

ok this one is really cool

[jolly flume]

shit is hard

[valid solar]

who wants to do multiplayer

[tulip wraith]

noice

[jolly flume]

i'm telling you

[sinful brook]

did you not see what he got?

[vestal hollow]

why are you a club penguin

[wicked delta]

Okay fine

[proper cave]

wut dis

[thin tartan]

"eh nu.. who?"
korean yoship: this guy is from ff5 who was the ifrst to obtain the power of nothing and then appeared in ff6 as a field mob
"thank you choi'qote wagon"

[alpine plover]

guys can you give the colours site

[thin tartan]

his name is jung hae choi and he plays suncat ingame so people call him choiqote

[odd beacon]

Are we sure its not villy larping

[thin tartan]

maybe!

[jolly flume]

billy would never be a cat

[thin tartan]

the speedwagon bit was too funny

[tulip wraith]

wait im fucking ass

[thin tartan]

.what a fucking wording

[tulip wraith]

[amber fable]

Fucking ass

[jolly flume]

that's not even a bad score

that test is legit just hard

[amber fable]

I got 36 on that

[wicked delta]

IM FINISHED

[amber fable]

Thats like 17 centile

[jolly flume]

wallahi

[amber fable]

Parsed grey

[valid solar]

get mogged

[jolly flume]

I got like 42 last time I did that

someone I know got 47 and i'm like

no shot that's legit

[valid solar]

if I didnt fuck up the first one that wouldve been even better

[tulip wraith]

some people are crazy with colors

[amber fable]

I cant remember the color bruh

Its hard

[jolly flume]

it's bungo's gpose autism

[valid solar]

[wicked delta]

Okay im trying again

[valid solar]

you know all things considered if 35/50 is below average most people must be pretty good at remembering colors

[random needle]

Either tgat or people are cheating

[visual geyser]

Cook or no

[wicked delta]

I trolled on that last one highkey

[valid solar]

brother

how

[wicked delta]

idk

[tulip wraith]

better than me

[wicked delta]

if i knew then i wouldnt have done it

[valid solar]

I can only assume you looked away from the computer while the thing was ticking down

[jolly flume]

bro saw forest green and made puke green

[tulip wraith]

WAIT 3.33 LMAO

[valid solar]

did you try the hard mode ? its absolutely cooked, the color changes thrice and the countdown in 1/3 the time

actually impossible content

[wicked delta]

im finished

[alpine plover]

bro i can't with this colour

where is it

[wicked delta]

its like orange shade

go there

[jolly flume]

bark brown from ffxiv tbh

[wicked delta]

between orange red

[alpine plover]

yes it's brown

[wicked delta]

oh wait

[alpine plover]

so towards yellow?

[wicked delta]

its the other test

um

[alpine plover]

[wicked delta]

yea smth like that

[alpine plover]

another time i'll try cuz my eyes hurt like fuck from 7hrs of work

[random needle]

Brown is just dark orange

[valid solar]

close enough I think

maybe a bit darker

[visual geyser]

True

[visual geyser]

This would be need to be more saturated I think

So little closer to red

[valid solar]

this has to be like a list of cheaters

I refuse to believe anyone got a perfect score on hard mode

[visual geyser]

Nah

[amber fable]

Thats some bot ass names

[visual geyser]

Some people can see hex codes

And just understand the math of them

Like losers

I remember a content creator who’s entire gimmick was accurately guessing colors

[wicked delta]

theyre going through it

[tulip wraith]

wait i think i know who youre talking about

or at least ive seen his content before too

[jolly flume]

how it felt to be a raider in 7.3

[visual geyser]

7.3 y’all had q.40

One time clear

[jolly flume]

peak content but zero replayability value

[visual geyser]

Terribad reward you never touch content again

Peak…

[jolly flume]

negative even

[visual geyser]

Don’t you wanna mess with the offerings bro

[jolly flume]

I sure would love to do q15 after clearing q40

can't imagine a better use of my time

[visual geyser]

PT was so peak

Damn that was fun content

[amber fable]

Why is it so dead now then?

[visual geyser]

Is it

[thin tartan]

finding out korean servers have "auction pfs" where people bid against eachother and that a fucking twine went for 85 mil

[visual geyser]

I’d probably be able to do a 71-100 run later if I wanted

[jolly flume]

why did they even bother putting an image bro

[visual geyser]

Rage bait u

[wicked delta]

secret

[thin tartan]

secret

[visual geyser]

Idk why they are gassing the boss up

Like do ultimate raiders even care what they are hitting

[wicked delta]

yes

[jolly flume]

himitsu

[visual geyser]

As long has the music is nice and the fight is fun

[wicked delta]

i know multiple ppl who will go on suicide watch if its four lords

[jolly flume]

hi i'm multiple ppl

[alpine plover]

himitsu

[wind cypress]

email to the art team, hey we need a preview for the next raid. Thanks - oh I forgot to mention we can't reveal what it is. Art person: ok... types SECRET, failed successfully

[visual geyser]

Why didn’t they just reveal the entire live letter at fanfest

[thin tartan]

Clear Party, 1m for clear, any chest, Hector, NB, Outer, Fixed, TTP

what is this comp b ro

[visual geyser]

Can’t even know what the gold saucer content is

[robust shoal]

only the best jobs

[visual geyser]

I’m guessing gold saucer is collab content again

[alpine plover]

and scholar

[visual geyser]

Which could be kinda peak…

[wind cypress]

we going to get a different color reskin of a mount they already have in the game?

makes me wonder if they're cost cutting for another game xD

[visual geyser]

As if square enix could afford it

I for one don’t mind mount recolors

I’m a ps2 gamer at hard

Recycle assets my beloved

[dreamy whale]

Reset is like rn right

[random needle]

In an hour I think

[dreamy whale]

Ohg ok

Weird that aether frontline is dead then

[random needle]

Time change happened

[dreamy whale]

Does normal raid roulette give decent xp

[amber fable]

No

[robust shoal]

no

[dreamy whale]

I just did leveling trying to remember what other ones give xp that’s worth doing

[wind cypress]

per time investiged once a day its fine

[robust shoal]

Leveling, ally raid, trial, MSQ

[amber fable]

Trial allyraid leveling pvp and msq

Pvp here is FL roullete

[loud nymph]

no it's in an hour

Ah

Thanks discord for not scrolling down

[visual geyser]

When I said I didn’t want purple sci fi anymore I didn’t mean I wanted New York in 2 years either

[tulip wraith]

they said more multi-player content

so very open ended

[dreamy whale]

I stopped playing dps and went back to warrior

Immediately I’m like

https://tenor.com/view/awakening-awaken-big-brain-smart-demoman-gif-23398775

[random needle]

Inb4 he finally announces blitzball in the gold saucer

[amber fable]

Chocobo racing updates

[wind cypress]

next ranged physical .. WAKKA! jk

[amber fable]

Surely

[dreamy whale]

I understand the secrets of the universe

(Looking at mechanics instead of my hotbar)

[wicked delta]

chat

play bg3 or ffxiv

?

[loud nymph]

bg3

[visual geyser]

BG3

[dreamy whale]

Xiv

[visual geyser]

Is that even a question

[vestal hollow]

bg3

or world of warcraft

[visual geyser]

Tf would you even do in ff14

[wind cypress]

welcome to being a healer, need 8 eye balls to keep track of everything and avoid mechanics as well as everyone else who literally just stares and mashes buttons

[random needle]

Which would make your heart sing louder

[visual geyser]

Criterion? 🥹

[loud nymph]

or this yes

[dreamy whale]

Maybe im biased bc I played bg3 6 times

[visual geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-memes-crying-i-can't-take-it-gif-902260968865311544

[wicked delta]

bg3 probably

[dreamy whale]

But im burned out on bg3 fr

[wicked delta]

i have like 400 hours on it lol

[dreamy whale]

Yeesh

[visual geyser]

No apology for fucking up my favorite EW content

Oh

Well then play ff14 I guess

If you have a goal

Get some more relics mby

[wicked delta]

i have like

[vestal hollow]

if youre a real mmo gigachad you should play wow

we've got elves with body hair

[visual geyser]

I would if it wasn’t hideous

[wicked delta]

9k hours on xiv prob

10k?

[visual geyser]

Like why can’t wow be sexy

[valid solar]

Let's do rolo

[visual geyser]

Why is the gear so ugly

[vestal hollow]

your bait used to be original and good. what happened to you

[visual geyser]

Makes me sad

I’m not baiting

[wicked delta]

after reset sure

[visual geyser]

I don’t like the character design in wow!!

But damn

[valid solar]

[visual geyser]

That zone art

The zone art in wow is fucking nuts 😭

[wicked delta]

but you'd have to remind me

[amber fable]

Bro dont play the game

[wicked delta]

i will get too immersed into bg3 yaoi to remember

[valid solar]

Will do

[visual geyser]

@vestal hollow also I didn’t recognize you with that name and pfp

😡

[dreamy whale]

Sometimes in dungeons I see how many vuln stacks I can survive for shits and giggles

[amber fable]

Max is 8

[vestal hollow]

raid loading screen art also fire

[dreamy whale]

Highest I’ve gotten was like 5 but we killed the boss before I got more

[amber fable]

Or was it 16

[vestal hollow]

this one is a ways off but

[visual geyser]

Fuhhh

[vestal hollow]

get mogged. dumbass

[visual geyser]

That’s hard asf

[dreamy whale]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[visual geyser]

Show the raid gear

[vestal hollow]

gimme a sec

[dreamy whale]

Me when I pull all of mt gulg first pull

Its so peak

[vestal hollow]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/post/3mgpy546nx423

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FxBluesky · Mar 10, 2026, 6:16 PM

theyre pretty peak this tier

[visual geyser]

Fuck I’m running out of excuses

[vestal hollow]

DONT SARAH IS GONNA YELL AT ME

[visual geyser]

🤐

[vestal hollow]

you cant tell me that gear looks bad

just cant

[visual geyser]

Looks good…

[vestal hollow]

caster set btw

[loud nymph]

that warlock set is fire but it's fucking pvp 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁

[zealous meteor]

wait isn't this fucking aht urhgan. not bastok???

[vestal hollow]

fistweaver time

[dreamy whale]

I tried playing warrior in wow and I dropped the game bc fdym I have to fight to keep aggro

[vestal hollow]

if they dont nerf fistweaver thats gonna be so funny

[visual geyser]

wtf tanks having to manage aggro

[zealous meteor]

wow fuck bastok i guess

[visual geyser]

Cringe cringe cringe

[loud nymph]

I don't wanna get elite

[vestal hollow]

tanks also have to interrupt

and cc

[visual geyser]

I can’t believe beastmaster got the roguelike mode I wanted deep dungeon to get

[loud nymph]

Pvp is cringe

[visual geyser]

Fucking hell

[vestal hollow]

come with me kinger

its time

to become a sweat

[loud nymph]

I'm too old to be sweaty

[vestal hollow]

whats funny is

midnight came out like what

3 weeks ago?

[loud nymph]

I just wanna do heroic raids and m+10 or so

[vestal hollow]

theyre already talking about the first major content patch

[loud nymph]

oh wait you know the thing that actually got me excited

[vestal hollow]

also

[loud nymph]

fucking

[vestal hollow]

https://bsky.app/profile/worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/post/3mgvc6myyji2m

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Bluesky · Mar 12, 2026, 9:00 PM

dundun

[loud nymph]

dracthyr battle visage

[vestal hollow]

we've got dundun

[vestal hollow]

if you use that youre an actual fucking coward

[loud nymph]

I can finally play evoker

[vestal hollow]

youre

a

COWARD

[loud nymph]

Then I am a fucking coward

[vestal hollow]

WEAKLING

[loud nymph]

dracthyr are the ugliest fucking race

[vestal hollow]

nvm im blocking you

[loud nymph]

lmaooooooo

[vestal hollow]

do nOT SHITTALK EMBERTHAL

MY GIRL

[loud nymph]

the only thing they need to do now is make other races available for visage

[vestal hollow]

no

n

o

thought of mechagnome visage haunts me

[loud nymph]

I had a lot of fun with scalecommander in TWW but dracthyr being so ugly and lacking transmog made me uninterested in playing it

this sorta fixes the issue

[vestal hollow]

kinger did you see we're getting multiple sunwalker sets and mounts in trading post in 12.0.5

[dreamy whale]

Yea dracthyr are p igly

[loud nymph]

though not in the way that a lot of people want it to be fixed

[dreamy whale]

I played worgen

[loud nymph]

I saw one of the sunwalker sets didn't realize it was tp though

[vestal hollow]

gonna be fire on haranir

[loud nymph]

God that's awesome

[vestal hollow]

the set pieces also have blurbs that give an'she and sunwalker lore lol

[loud nymph]

wtf

actual an'she lore in TYOOL 2026

[dreamy whale]

I don’t hate wow but yeah having to manage aggro as a tank is a dealbreaker for me

[loud nymph]

amazing

[dreamy whale]

Gimme a stance I can toggle and call it a day

[vestal hollow]

skill issue

[loud nymph]

Literally

[vestal hollow]

aggro in wow is actually so fucking easy

[dreamy whale]

Its easy yeah

But it’s annoying to think about

[jolly flume]

me when having to interact with the core mechanic of a role

[loud nymph]

it's really not something you have to actively think about

[vestal hollow]

me when i have to do work as a role besides just stand there

[loud nymph]

it just means your DPS have to be intelligent

and not fucking pop CDs while you're still gathering a pull

[random needle]

In an MMO? :icant:

[vestal hollow]

im definitely maining bm monk this expac kinger

bm just feels so good to play

especially with shado-pan

[loud nymph]

I'm having so much fun with survival hunter

i know a lot of people are down on the bombs and boomstick theming

[zealous meteor]

[loud nymph]

but my hunter is a goblin

it's a match made in heaven

[vestal hollow]

shado-pan makes it so you build up stacks of aoe autoattacks that all get used at once whenever you hit keg smash

[dreamy whale]

I wanna chuck a tomahawk, aoe the stragglers, and keep running not babysit a bunch of toddlers holding sticks

[loud nymph]

after spending all of TWW going "well, sentinel doesn't fucking fit a goblin thematically but then again neither does fucking dark ranger"

now I can be the bombs and shotgun guy

and it fucking rules

[vestal hollow]

i saw an absolutely insane sin dorei hunter glam on the transmog sub that made me ponder my life choices

[dreamy whale]

The dps and healer roles feel p good in wow tho l’ll say that

[loud nymph]

someone posted a thirst trap goblin with short hair to r/wow a few weeks ago that had me in a similar situation

[dreamy whale]

I swapped to a shadow priest when my homie who loves wow tried to drag me in and it was fun

[vestal hollow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transmogrification/comments/1rr6wfb/sindorei_stealth_archer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[loud nymph]

fuckin hell

[dreamy whale]

I heard rogue is p fun in pvp

[vestal hollow]

have you gotten the felwyrm pet yet kinger

[loud nymph]

I don't think so

[dreamy whale]

I’ll give wow another try if they ever port it to console

[loud nymph]

I've just been rolling around with my pangolin

[vestal hollow]

murder row dungeon, you buy a mana wyrm core from one of the vendors in there, outside of the dungeon you put it on the ground and have a dh or warlock infuse it with fel and then you can tame it

[loud nymph]

oh nice

I'll have to do that

[dreamy whale]

Oh kinger I have a question

[loud nymph]

I loved my radioactive rat from TWW

[vestal hollow]

theres also a new class of creatures in voidstorm that are apparently bis

only one tameable version and its a rare

have fun

[wind cypress]

I went from astrologian -> tank and ah feels so good to worry about less

[loud nymph]

I do love collecting pets

even tho survival is limited to the non exotics

[vestal hollow]

but yeah felwyrm looks peak

[dreamy whale]

Is there a way to limit who queues into a dungeon with you bc my bros and I tried to run one but we got queued with super high level people who just one shot everything and it was

[low hearth]

m12s mercs finna go crazy next week 😋

[loud nymph]

I think I have every spirit beast

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-12902674

[vestal hollow]

???

[wind cypress]

only been seeing m11s lowballs, 1m merc runs

[loud nymph]

In WoW? I don't think so no, but also normal dungeons just kinda....suck

do mythic 0s

[dreamy whale]

Ah ok

[vestal hollow]

dungeons are mechanically very easy in comparison with xiv

trash is more dangerous with interrupts on higher keys

[loud nymph]

Normal dungeons get fucked by the level scaling so low level characters often do obscene damage in them

[dreamy whale]

It wasn’t even about the mechanics they just one shot everything, there was nothing to see

[loud nymph]

yeah that's not exactly unusual for normal dungeons

[dreamy whale]

Wack

[loud nymph]

stuff actually matters in higher difficulties

[dreamy whale]

They should fix that ong

[loud nymph]

normal dungeons serve no purpose beyond leveling

[dreamy whale]

[loud nymph]

if you want stuff that's more engaging that's what heroics and mythics are for

and m+ once the season starts

which is next week

[vestal hollow]

pvp also next week

[dreamy whale]

Maybe I am too xivbrained and I’m expecting too much from normal contenge

[loud nymph]

yeah

[amber fable]

Ff14 normal content is pretty braindead too

[loud nymph]

wow actually has good scaling difficulty

[amber fable]

But i guess things dont fall instantly

[dreamy whale]

The leveling dungeons are fine health scaling wise

[loud nymph]

current m0s are just right based on current gear

Obviously they will get easier as people get more gear

but obviously the pool of people doing them will also shrink

because m+ exists

[vestal hollow]

there's also higher tier delves and nightmare prey this next week

[dreamy whale]

I’ll think about it

[loud nymph]

ye

[wicked delta]

chat

[loud nymph]

delves are great

[wicked delta]

lolthsworn drow or seldarine drow

[vestal hollow]

i hate them

[dreamy whale]

I have to get warrior to 100 and clear M9S

[loud nymph]

nightmare prey being the same reward tier as higher delves is also a great choice

[vestal hollow]

im gonna be so locked in on prey this expac you have no idea

[loud nymph]

so you are not locked into doing so many delves

[vestal hollow]

i just hope the gear for later seasons looks good

[dreamy whale]

Once I clear the tier and get BiS I also wanna play bravely default bc the port just dropped

[loud nymph]

as much as I like delves they do get old fast

so it's nice that prey is a similar thing

[vestal hollow]

valeera also sucks

[loud nymph]

I really do miss brann

yeah he was loud and obnoxious

[vestal hollow]

i miss you

[loud nymph]

but like

how am I going to know to not stand there if I don't have Brann yelling "don't stand there!"

[dreamy whale]

We did this dungeon where like

[loud nymph]

how will I know if those webs will summon nerubians if brann doesn't warn me that they will

[dreamy whale]

We teamed up with some horde players ig

Oh maybe it wasn’t a dungeon but the pacing kinda felt like it

[loud nymph]

queued content is not cross faction

so you might be thinking about something else

[dreamy whale]

[loud nymph]

queueing only puts you with people in your faction

[dreamy whale]

Some sick ass paladin dude sacrificed himself for us

And jayna proudmoore or whatever her name is was all sad

[loud nymph]

I'm trying to think of dungeons involving jaina and the only one I can think of is Halls of Reflection

was the lich king chasing you at the end

[dreamy whale]

It was the start of an expack story uhh

Nah it was like we were fighting through basically hell to save some paladin and the light left him

[loud nymph]

oh were you fighting a shit ton of demons

[dreamy whale]

I think so

[loud nymph]

and was there a cool cinematic at the end where some guy got blown up

[dreamy whale]

It was a couple months ago so my memory is a little fuzzy

[vestal hollow]

thats the legion intro

thats not a dungeon

[dreamy whale]

Where we escape on airships

[loud nymph]

ok yeah that's the legion intro scenario

the Broken Shore battle

[dreamy whale]

Oh ok my homie said it was a dungeon

[loud nymph]

nah

[dreamy whale]

I don’t know shit about wow lmao he just begged us to play and I was on a break from 14 at the time

[loud nymph]

just an instanced scenario that's an introduction to the Legion expansion

[vestal hollow]

its definitely not fair to judge the whole game as bad on 10 year old content tbh

and yes legion is 10 years old

[loud nymph]

Tirion Fordring (the paladin) gets killed and then the Alliance king Varian Wyrnn gets disenchanted by Gul'dan

and everyone else runs away

[dreamy whale]

I didn’t say it was bad I just said I didn’t like the tank gameplay

[dreamy whale]

Ah ok

[vestal hollow]

then dont play tank

but again

tank is not uniquely difficult

except for maybe needing to know best routes in m+

gonna be very funny in pit of saron

[dreamy whale]

Oh I did this one dungeon (I think) where we had to sneak into a castle or something through the sewers and the tank knew the route but I got so lost lmao

[loud nymph]

that's honestly a pretty bad way to introduce someone to the game haha

that might be Tol Dagor

or any number of other things

[dreamy whale]

It was uhh..Yea I think it was tol dagor

[loud nymph]

https://youtu.be/HerNdsh_H-g?si=rR9bmfzIjx-WSdkG

this is honestly a really bad way to introduce someone to the game haha

"here's this major event involving the death of major lore characters you have never met"

"also it actually took place 10 years ago"

[amber fable]

Do most wow players care about it though?

[vestal hollow]

a lot of people were pissed off at varian's death yes

wow players do in fact care about story a little

[wind cypress]

when is ff14 getting a graphics overhaul, can prob dump ps4 right?

[vestal hollow]

ff14 got a graphics overhaul

this expansion

[loud nymph]

the interesting thing blizzard did with it was playing different cinematics for each faction, so the alliance didn't get to see the horde getting absolutely overrun

so the alliance cinematic has this implication that the horde deliberately betrayed them instead of just "nah fam, we're all fucking dying and we're gonna run away"

[vestal hollow]

i want zul'jin to hatch already

maybe he'll come into play when we go to that island off of zulaman

[loud nymph]

And there was a lot of very spirited debate among wow players about that

[jade nimbus]

well, the previous one

DT was mostly more tweaks

[vestal hollow]

?

what

the graphics overhaul was not in ew

[loud nymph]

the meat of the graphics overhaul came with 7.0

[jade nimbus]

oh, wait

true

I forgor

[loud nymph]

and they have been doing more with it since then

[jade nimbus]

bro it has been 2 years now

[loud nymph]

that's why there were free fantasias in 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3

[jade nimbus]

ye, my bad my bad

[loud nymph]

because of character related stuff with the graphics overhaul

[wind cypress]

so.. where's the ray tracing, 4k textures, god rays, moving swaying foliage and trees, terrain tesselation?

[vestal hollow]

what

i hate to tell you this

but people dont really play mmos for the 8k graphics

[zealous meteor]

ffxiv looks good enough tbh

[wind cypress]

well at least they got something I guess, my old game (lord of the rings online) told everyone they were going to overhaul then ditched due to budget lol

[stray forge]

I don't even play mmos, I just sit in limsa lowkenuinly

[dreamy whale]

Behold

HD Grapes

[zealous meteor]

merchant's tale has actual hd grapes

[wind cypress]

think the devs living in the ps2 era

and I noticed the monsters are using the same 5 or 6 skeletal rigs for animations, can we get more variety

[zealous meteor]

you aren't staring at the grapes though

[wind cypress]

but what if we got VR for ff14, I'd look at the grapes

[thin tartan]

this rdm

kills sch and smn on end of ultimate weapon trophy with tornado baits
kills me and themselves during secodn set of split arena
we still win and they take a milly

[dreamy whale]

[wind cypress]

every time I see a new boss my brain goes "ah yes, I know that skeletal rig they're using", maybe it's just because I mod games on the side and have to deal with animations/rigs xD

"that boss X is jusy boss Y but without the wings that don't even move any way because they were never rigged for wing animations, or tail or appendage" anyway

like in monster hunter, they have like 3 - 5 actual monster skeletons and they just plop mesh skin on top

if you pay attention I guess most players don't and actually think the devs took the time to rig a whole bunch of unique monsters

like in ff14, robotic looking monsters that move with organic weight sampling looks bad but it's budget friendly.. any who back to work I'm ranting

[tired egret]

If you wanna play MMOs for graphics just go & play some crap like Lost Ark or Black Desert

Just note that those games will be 100 times worse than FF14

[wind cypress]

truth xD

[tired egret]

I am still pissed over Assassin being locked to female chars on LostArk lmao

Lemme just have an edgy rogue boi

[dreamy whale]

Yeah I don’t like the krmmo standard of having classes gender locked like

[wicked delta]

Genderlocked classes are so stupid

[dreamy whale]

Lemme have a male witch fr

[tired egret]

Even other Korean MMOs that I played didn't have that

[dreamy whale]

https://tenor.com/view/ichi-the-witch-ichi-manga-gif-11235129085782670712

[tired egret]

I can just be any job I want with any gender

[thin tartan]

have u tried playing ffxiv

theres no gender lock in final fantasy 14

[dreamy whale]

Imagine if there was a gender lock in xiv

[tired egret]

You can only play Dancer as a girl

[dreamy whale]

Only male midlanders can play gunbreaker

[amber fable]

Only m hroth

[dreamy whale]

Nono because thancred

The job quest guy will be the only hroth who can ever be gnb

[lapis token]

Just a bunch of Midlanders going: "My Turn! (with GNB)"

[dreamy whale]

We gotta destroy Netflix

[jade nimbus]

Mhm?

Why too

Kpop demon hunter was a good movie

[thin tartan]

cuz fuck you i love korea

[dreamy whale]

I hate quirk chungus movies

[wind cypress]

I dislike warrior animation sounds, shouldn't an axe make squishy slice noises instead of it sounding like you're pounding on a tin can?

[dreamy whale]

Take that back

Fell cleave sounds awesome

[buoyant zealot]

They actually lied to us about updating BLU this dlc

[wind cypress]

oh yeah almost forgot, blu getting back burnered?

[valid solar]

@wicked delta lemme know if you still wanna do rolo

[wind cypress]

sounds to me like they're done with bluemage xD

not even a "soon (TM)"

we're prioritizing beast master = our dev team has years worth of beast master pipeline to work through first rofl

[buoyant zealot]

They worked on Beastmaster for 3 years just to make it level 50

https://giphy.com/gifs/brandmkrs-pedro-arwind-gajadien-YRPBhd3vscg5Fxx1DQ

[amber fable]

Not enough funds

[low hearth]

Lack of resources

[buoyant zealot]

Half of this PLL was absolute shite, the other was peak

but not for the right reasons

[amber fable]

It was all shit

Tbf

[wind cypress]

after playing this game for 2 or 3 years I'm noticing a theme, they really like sand boxed content , content that forces the player to use almost nothing they've earned when starting new content

[amber fable]

Powerpoint the pll

Well part 1 is shit anyway

[dreamy whale]

Idk why anyone thought that beastmaster was gonna be more than 60 at most

[amber fable]

Atleast its a pet job

How it plays remains to be seen

[wind cypress]

bluemage is sandboxed, bet beast master will be too, bozja is sand boxed, deep dungeons are sand boxed, duties that aren't uncapped level cap are sand boxed, like dude what do we really get to use our savage gear on where level down doesn't destroy our gains?

[dreamy whale]

we get to use it in ultimates

[amber fable]

Sandboxed?

Its all instanced

Ilvl is gatekeeper of content thats all

[wind cypress]

sandboxed is my version of,using what you've earned end game in any new or future content without the reward you earned being diminished

[dreamy whale]

I mean the true endgame is fashion

[wind cypress]

for example, occult crescent, the occult gear is better = diminished your raid gear

bozja, bozja gear is better than your raid gear = diminshed

deep dungeons = your raid gear doesn't matter

[amber fable]

Because gear is irrelevant

Stat wise

[wind cypress]

99% of lower level duties = due to scaling your end game gear also doesn't matter

[amber fable]

Always has been for a long time

[wind cypress]

so I'm putting in 100 - 350 pulls per savage for gear where I can only use it in A.) savage content and B.) the 1 or 2 current level uncapped dungeons?

[amber fable]

As long as you're above the min ilvl needed for duty...it only helps it clear it faster

[wind cypress]

sounds like a really bad return on investment

[amber fable]

It doesnt fundamentally change how you play

[buoyant zealot]

Yea u just need Raid gear for ultimates

u clear raids with crafted, with luck boots and hands maybe

[sinful brook]

350 pulls is probably a bit high though for each fight now at this point

[wicked delta]

Late reply but smth else came up 😭😭 sorry

[valid solar]

another time then

[random needle]

please let me clear e12s today so I have the motivation to prog m12s later

[thin tartan]

WROING! LIONS

[random needle]

I'm gonna be so fr, lions hasn't even been the worst part of p1 for us

Junction Shiva 💀

[tired egret]

Ah clearing older savage raids

[daring pine]

hi chat

sapph how’s m12

[tired egret]

Today gonna do T9S... need to get past Heavensfall

[daring pine]

i think m8s was like 330 or something for me but pf is evil and late prog would’ve exacerbated that

i need to check my pulls when i get home

this tier at least

[random needle]

I haven't been back in a few weeks, I just haven't felt like raiding in the evenings aside from my static

I have to relearn glooper...

[sinful brook]

yeah late prog for sure impacts that

especially on a tier with no ult attached

there's less urgency so there's fewer quality pfs

[buoyant zealot]

Yea I need to clear first month or it's over, I only play in the mornings so pf just dies after that month :/

[random needle]

It also hasn't helped that I want to do anything other than PF on Tuesdays, and I never want to join a reclear party after Tuesday at this point, so it's just a bad storm

[wind cypress]

was helping a friend prog m11s, we got to arena split in like 2 hours of pf then he said nah I'm done for the tier after running into pfs who rarely get past arena split to the next phase, m11s took me 320 to clear 😬 , going to try reclear today/this weekend but usually by the end of the week you end up in groups where everyone who didn't reclear hangs out

maybe I'll catch a merc group pf or something for a little change xD

[low hearth]

hard fight

[wicked delta]

it took me around 100 pulls to clear m11

considering i did pf for like most of it

im happy about that

[daring pine]

yeah it was genuinely awful

never doing late pf prog again

i would wish that on my worst enemy though

[daring pine]

fair enough tbh

[worn bluff]

it's always a tough balance bc i don't want to rush myself or feel like i need to clear fast, but then the longer i wait the worse the PFs get

[daring pine]

i mean yeah don't rush yourself or anything but holy shit

actual torture

[round burrow]

@ bungo with this image bc i forgot what their user was

[daring pine]

ok i checked my pulls last tier

[daring pine]

m5s was 29 pulls, m6s was 100, m7s was 89, m8s was 337

lol

m9s was 105, m10s was 69 (nice), m11s was 57, m12s so far is 55

had to pf 9s, 10s and most of m11s until the very end when i got picked up by a static

[wind cypress]

tuesday morning's I can knock out all my raids in like 2 hours, if I wait until the weekend I'll be pulling 20 times maybe to clear one

[vestal hollow]

damn ur m8s pulls are one digit off from leet

why am i still an eye

whatever

[daring pine]

because you're always staring at me

[buoyant zealot]

U get pfs in the morning?!

[daring pine]

yeah see

staring at me

im gonna hug you oomf

[vestal hollow]

erm

i bite

[wind cypress]

yes on tuesdays cause the cheeto dust basement peeps are on

[daring pine]

that's okay

it happens

[vestal hollow]

marcesona when.

[daring pine]

gulp

flies away

[vestal hollow]

[daring pine]

ur gonna manifest my sona and then get lyv to draw it

[vestal hollow]

ill make lyv draw it

lmao

[daring pine]

gulp (2)

if i could draw i'd sketch something out

[wind cypress]

usually the angry bitter hard core raiders who somehow weren't liked by statics and have to run PFs put up groups tuesday mornings, usually full of people that will rage drop if you wipe more than twice

[vestal hollow]

marce i should show you oomf's bat oc that im getting art with

[daring pine]

dm it to me

will u get art with me..

[vestal hollow]

if you have a fursona.

[low hearth]

mb

[craggy marsh]

Made it to Idyllic last night

Time to sim my ass off

[daring pine]

when*

the only sona i had was one that my ex drew for me

[sinful brook]

ayo mango clear squad?

[daring pine]

congrats mango

extra headpats tooday

[craggy marsh]

i'll try and push for a clear next week probably

Stories 3 has my attention for da weekend this week

[craggy marsh]

[sinful brook]

let us know if you want bodies to help clear

[wind cypress]

I'm on p2 but thinking it'll take awhile to clear, by the time people clear p1 they're like whew man, I need a break after that

[craggy marsh]

ye ye i'll probably need em if pf gives me a really rough time

this week was okay-ish

11 reclears sucked but I only need 1 more week of that and then i'm done

then I can just skip to 12

[wind cypress]

then you can fill up alt job gear right? xD

[craggy marsh]

[low hearth]

stack is afk ngl

[craggy marsh]

pog pog

[dreamy whale]

Ok guys

Should I play xiv, bg3, nioh 3, or elden ring

[low hearth]

new ultimate is going to be awesome yo

[low hearth]

Savage

[dreamy whale]

Gotta get warrior to 100 first but sure

[craggy marsh]

Nioh 3

you probably played enough BG3

I sure as hell have

[remote gate]

im sorry to any and all blue mage players in this chat

youre gonna be trapped in lv 80 content because of beastmaster

[zealous meteor]

theyre doing great

[remote gate]

beastmaster being stuck at lv 50 is also insane ngl

[sinful brook]

i honestly fucking called it

i knew there was no shot they release it at 80 with blu

[wind cypress]

so how long has it been since blu was updated

[loud nymph]

since 6.45

whenever that was

late 2023?

early 2024?

[lyric summit]

I think you underestimate how much content there is at level 50 for bst to go through

[loud nymph]

July 2023 fucking oof

[round burrow]

Me when my 2nd husband

[wind cypress]

dayum

[lyric summit]

there's like as many dungeons in ARR as shb and ew combined

[zealous meteor]

dungeons

[loud nymph]

I have not watched/read that section of LL because work has been quite a day today, did they go into specific detail on what BST content will be like beyond "solo"

[random needle]

This is what Mr. Ozma has been working on BTW

[lyric summit]

catch 50 pokemon and use different comps made of 3 beasts to do existing content I guess

[thin fox]

considering limited job stuff usually gets pushed to the end of the expansion there's a fairly solid chance that blue mage will not see an update until around 2029

[loud nymph]

oh see this sounds kinda neat

[grand mesa]

new limited job

time to never level it

[random needle]

This intruiges me a bit more than Masked Carnivale tbh

[worn bluff]

10-12 don't sound too bad

but wtf happened in 9

[lyric summit]

I'm looking forward to it cause solo content is pog

[daring pine]

things.

[worn bluff]

[random needle]

Vamp Stomp is harder than Mouser 1

[loud nymph]

actually true

[random needle]

Also people can't press buttons if their mothers' lives depended on it

[worn bluff]

i mean

i've messed up vamp stomp more than i've messed up idyllic dream

[daring pine]

@vestal hollow oomfie

what realm was it y ou're on again

[loud nymph]

doesn't matter, basically everything is cross realm

including guilds

imagine FFXIV having that level of qol

[low hearth]

That fight is way too hard

[loud nymph]

square enix could never

[vestal hollow]

aegwynn

[low hearth]

👉 🦇

[daring pine]

ic

[low hearth]

Wait

[loud nymph]

also come to bleeding hollow we have cookies

[daring pine]

does this mean anything

[grand mesa]

your UI? maybe?

idjk

[daring pine]

cuz aegwynn is on the german tab

[round burrow]

Mouser and vamp stomp was pretty easy for me to understand surprisingly

[daring pine]

shrug

[daring pine]

kinger i don't know what bleeding hollow is

[loud nymph]

it's the realm I play on

[daring pine]

no im going to aegwynn

liv and sitri are there

so

[loud nymph]

this sounds like alliance favoritism

[vestal hollow]

play horde

[vestal hollow]

i fucking hate alliance

[daring pine]

i was planning on it

[loud nymph]

hell yeah

all is forgiven

[daring pine]

no

im planning on horde

wai ti cant read

time to pick my race

oh my god orcs are hot

[loud nymph]

yes, yes they are

[buoyant zealot]

They are...

[loud nymph]

goblins are also hot

[daring pine]

goblins have big heads

bro my calves are so fucking thick

holy

ok time to get into da game

[loud nymph]

orc ladies ❤️

[buoyant zealot]

Im thinking of getting into WoW next year

This year is for OSRS

[random needle]

I tried to start OSRS but it was not grabbing me right, and I haven't really tried going back since

Parts of WoW seem interesting, but other parts seem like they would piss me off so much

[buoyant zealot]

I get it

I had to finish multiple quests to get it

Honestly I don't feel OSRS anymore, I don't think clicking a tree for 100h instead of 10 makes the game better

Im riding it out bc Im subbed to it already but I wish I was playn 14

Didn't even do this tier 😭 or last

[random needle]

If I just want number to go up, I can play cookie clicker

[buoyant zealot]

There's a bit more to it in OSRS but yea

[low hearth]

Shinryu unreal is going to be peak

The Worm's Tail 🔥

[sinful brook]

Understanding isn't the same as executing

[daring pine]

i believe i can fly

[vestal hollow]

yummers

[vapid path]

marce in her wow era?

[worn bluff]

M11S is the perfect example of this

[daring pine]

yes

[wind cypress]

yep even hector guides don't include a fair amount of nuances you find in m11s

[vestal hollow]

what nuances

if you say mitigation thats not a nuance

[wind cypress]

like how to get up time during meteor baits if you're a tank while not baiting a melee meteor, how most peeps invuln the 1st shared buster, how you need mits on towers usually, lets see

[vestal hollow]

he shows all of that

and mit is assumed as something you should always be doing

its a bare minimum expectation

[wind cypress]

and like the last part, if you're tank one you should pop your invuln before taking any damage or you get one shot and wipe the party

[vestal hollow]

what

[wind cypress]

yeah like last night I ran m11s and the server snapshotted my invuln so it didn't fire BEFORE the first heart break kick so it started after and I was one shot anyway

[vestal hollow]

thats not a nuance

thats just how the game works

[wicked delta]

Okay but like I don’t think it’s Hector’s job to explain these things

Like that gets to handholding territory

[wind cypress]

basically, you learn certain things along the fight that's just in hectors guides, he covers stuff well enough

[vestal hollow]

those are basic things you should know before you step in the fight the first time

if you dont know the fundamentals thats not on hector to explain

snapshotting is a basic fundamental concept in this game you should know by the time you hit max.

[thin fox]

I would wager a solid 95%+ of people in this game do not understand how dark knight damage application snapshotting wrt living dead works or how most bard snapshots work

[wind cypress]

yep, so now I just press NO buttons a half second before I pop invuln cause god forbid the game snap shot me if I press the button before I see his animation but still die

but it's on the bingo card which likely means it's seen an unusual amount of times in pf

[robust shoal]

rember when xeno made a drk opener guide where he assumed living shadow snapshot buffs when you pressed the button so it was late af

[wicked delta]

Xeno’s DRK video was sure um

Something

[daring pine]

im guessing you press it a few seconds prepull

because it takes time to actually do anything

[robust shoal]

it takes just long enough to start doing its thing that you press it after your first gcd

[daring pine]

ahh alright

makes sense

[robust shoal]

well, after hard slash

unmend isn't real

[loud nymph]

I thought tanks normally take the first tick of heartbreak kick together, then whicher one is invulning takes the rest of the tower solo, was I misinformed

[daring pine]

i learned the drk opener a while ago but it’s been a long time so i forgot

[robust shoal]

in fact it's borderline too early there but it usually works out pretty perfectly