#endgame-lounge

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alpine plover
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wtf alliance B in one of the other groups got both mounts and the minion

wicked delta
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Rob them?

alpine plover
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omw to rob them

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if only

jolly flume
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i've been trying to poach one of my healer friends for a static for like the last year

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but he just doesn't gaf about the game unless it's criterion

clear plume
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Not based bc criterion is bad now smadge

rapid whale
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where trash

stray forge
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Why did they release sts2 right when criterion came out

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How am I supposed to get motivation to try it out

loud nymph
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same question but wow midnight

boreal pumice
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sts2 is just EA so you can delay it longer mewpaissa

midnight furnace
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Well

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AST is more fun than i thought

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But its very clicky and choose your target fast

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But i like the cards and the effects and animations

echo ibex
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Bro is saturday let me just get you your clear

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Their greed will be their downfall

worn bluff
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bro no one is even around be less picky if you want a fill

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they just sat at 1/8

rapid whale
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that static yseterday that tried to loot master 0 reward m12s did infact not end up clearing

fierce matrix
rapid whale
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yoo they're visiting my home?

fierce matrix
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Yes

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Friends coming over

worn bluff
rapid whale
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truge

worn bluff
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i’ve seen statics try that early weeks on tuesday reclears too

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like “people normally pay 5-10M right now but we all know each other so that’s worth getting nothing”

craggy marsh
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It's all over, until next time

rapid whale
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its funny that they think they're soooooooo good you should give up your loot just to play with them

low hearth
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mb

rain geode
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The ops

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I wonder if I can bring myself to do a 2 chest run of m10s after work

rapid whale
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dunno if that even fills ngl

low hearth
rain geode
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Eh there's gotta be a some people who couldn't do their run during the week

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God it really does feel like If you can play Tuesdays you might as well not even play the game

rapid whale
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well thats a bit extreme

worn bluff
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it’s definitely tougher but some people do wait til weekend

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you might get some people who don’t care anymore and decide to hop on the weekend to do their reclear

craggy marsh
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"It'll give me a headstart on gear bro!"

rapid whale
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yea ill prob stop clearing 4 charas on tuesdays

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gets to be very "why"

craggy marsh
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Man I only have time for 1 character

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I wanna make an alt but I can't justify paying for a skip just to raid

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And I dont wanna replay msq

rain geode
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Hand leveled account

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If I end up raiding in 8.0 I'll probably pre-make the alt in 7.5

worn bluff
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so if the random fill gets it they madge

low hearth
worn bluff
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but they’re too cheap to pay the random too

rain geode
worn bluff
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i’ve thought about making an alt to be able to do late 2 chest with friends but i also don’t know if i’d want to gear characters twice

low hearth
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I still need 3 more augments CAUGHT

rain geode
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I need 2 more things from m10s then everything from m11s and m12s

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So that's 2 things from m11s and the weapon from m12s is I'm not mistaken

low hearth
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That m11s stuff is expensive asf

rain geode
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I'll just lucky ez

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Also if I'm really lazy I could just get the legs and wait for 7.5

sinful brook
low hearth
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Alliance raid is 7.5?

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Like 7.50

zealous meteor
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yes

rain geode
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I assume

low hearth
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Cool

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should help with augmenting gear

rapid whale
stray forge
rapid whale
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i would help people 2chest but everybody hate me

craggy marsh
rain geode
rapid whale
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is 10 luck that bad

worn bluff
rain geode
rapid whale
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i meant the pf luck

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loot luck is w/e

rain geode
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Oh yeah it's awful

amber fable
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Just complete the tier

rain geode
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I typically go through about 7-10 groups before I find one I feel can clear

rapid whale
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dam

amber fable
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Reclears arent needed once you do the tier and you dont wanna do ult really

rain geode
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The critical part of me asks the obvious question which is "am I the problem"

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Then I find a group that I feel can do it and we clear in 1-2 pulls

stray forge
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reclears arent necessary -> play not ffxiv pipeline

rapid whale
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if u have fun doing it u do it

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if its not fun then its not fun

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hot takes

low hearth
stray forge
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video games are boring tbh lets go spelunking

jolly flume
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cave diving

rain geode
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Cave

rapid whale
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what if we held hands at the bottom of the mariana trench

rain geode
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I think we would be crushed by the water pressure

stray forge
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thats still a win in my book

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😌

rain geode
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Maybe I will just do a book run then stop doing m10s reclears

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Wait til 7.5

low hearth
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Arena split might be a hard ass mechanic for healers

rain geode
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It's annoying but nothing I can't handle

dull drum
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🥀

jolly flume
stray forge
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||10000 hours in console||

jolly flume
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crazy

rapid whale
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nice photoshop

zealous meteor
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mods. get them

worn bluff
valid solar
rapid whale
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rnrn?

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can I get like 10 min

valid solar
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if you're available yeah

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sure

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ill just make a pf and lock out a slot for picto

jolly flume
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why you doin book now THONK

valid solar
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the 2 chest parties I joined today were cooked

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so might as well book run before I get back to 12 prog

low hearth
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don’t be a book Andy bro

rapid whale
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i just close my eyes and say i lost all my rolls whenever i have to book run something

valid solar
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I cleared m11 like 4 times but ive yet to win a single roll so

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statistically I wouldnt have won this week either

stray forge
rapid whale
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naw you were due bro /s

low hearth
rapid whale
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mori did u clear this week

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r u getting in on this book run too

stray forge
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Yes i showed you losing all my rolls remember

rapid whale
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my bad man

stray forge
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And you asked if I won the solvent

valid solar
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would you like to show up for the book run anyways

rapid whale
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my memory sucks i only remember stuff related to me because i'm a narcissist

stray forge
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🥹

valid solar
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1 less person I need to gamble on

low hearth
rapid whale
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DAMN

valid solar
low hearth
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Getting the legs is actually huge ngl

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That’s like 6 books you’re saving GIGACOOKED

low hearth
rapid whale
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That's like asking for a face reveal bro

stray forge
low hearth
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I can’t talk I be netting straight blues

rapid whale
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Good enough to clear

stray forge
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.

low hearth
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M11s is so hard and people are still doing 0 6 10:30 week 9

rapid whale
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You know what would make time even more toxic

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If they added a parse number where everyone has to be above to clear

valid solar
stray forge
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Would they give us government mandated logs in that timeline

rapid whale
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lemme try it with 10 percentile

stray forge
valid solar
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would appreciate it

rapid whale
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assuming the comp is pld/drk/whm/sch/mnk/drg/brd/pct lets see what we get

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also im online

worn bluff
valid solar
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by any chance are you also free for a book run niko

terse zodiac
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The issue would be 1st group clears they all have 100, 2nd group would need everyone beating them to clear or thet get 0, but its a silly hypothetical

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They could put individual specific dps checks tho

worn bluff
valid solar
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oh gg

rapid whale
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22.5k + 22.4k + 17.4k + 17.5k + 35.8k + 36.1k + 34.7k + 34,8k = 221k

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it enrages even in a clean pull

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so a party full of 10 parses cannot clear m11s

stray forge
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  • lb3 + lb2
jolly flume
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can I be so fr

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if theyre all 10 parsers theyre probably wiping to mechanics before they even hit enrage

rapid whale
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its tru

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lets see how much dps lb3/2 does

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week 1 logs should have that

jolly flume
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ability to do damage is pretty strongly correlated with ability to do mechanics lol

rapid whale
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it does about 3.4k

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so its not clearing even w/ lb3+2

stray forge
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rip

rapid whale
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iirc its 235k? to beat enrage

valid solar
worn bluff
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one time we got a median 5ish dps at phase 1 enrage and were trying to help them get to phase 2 but it was too hard

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would have been doable with no death but they were making mistakes too

terse zodiac
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Well the reason theyre getting 5 is probably deaths

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Very hard to low digit grey without completely playing wrong unless youre dying

worn bluff
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i think they were low gray with 0 death type of person

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we still tried tho bc we were trying to prog early phase 2 so as long as we got to phase 2 it was w/e

terse zodiac
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Low grey with no death players are very funny

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Flashbacks to that one machinist that plays ex trials but only presses 1 button

jolly flume
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even then grey is like I died 2-3 times territory 💀

terse zodiac
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Mb culture is out of hand here one day its actually gonna be an mb and nobody will know crybaby

zealous meteor
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like

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only the 1 of their 123 combo????

terse zodiac
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Yes

zealous meteor
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????????????????????????????

terse zodiac
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Hundreds of clears all 0

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Maybe not hundreds but still

worn bluff
jolly flume
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it's me I'm toxicity

low hearth
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Aye

wind cypress
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finally cleared p1, group barely scraped over the line 🙃

low hearth
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That was me in Necron bro

worn bluff
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some people get the gcd uptime thing down quickly but esp if you’re not used to this kind of game it sometimes takes time to get comfortable with it

terse zodiac
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I dont think ive ever run into those in endgame minus like healers doing 70% uptime and even those are green, i cant imagine a low grey scuseme

round burrow
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Wanna ask here cause I'm confused:
I've genuinely cleared a savage this week. The book, gear, and all stuff received from (lets say) m9s cannot be recleared again this week right?

proper cave
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If you’ve cleared a floor once, you can’t get any drops from it again for the rest of the week.

rain geode
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1 chest runs exist technically but yeah general rule of thumb you can only loot once a week

round burrow
rain geode
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*2 chest but yes

round burrow
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Ahh okay thank you that makes a lot of sense now

rain geode
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The 2 chest 1 chest thing is from my understanding slang based in the fact that it used to spawn multiple chests. "Full loot" and "half loot" are probably more technically correct now that it only ever spawns on chest regardless

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Or maybe "partial loot" I forget if it's actually half

clear plume
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Zoomers don’t deserve proper terminology the boomers win this one 2 chest stays

rain geode
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I don't care but it is worth explaining I feel

worn bluff
rain geode
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I play two different games where split means very different things so whatever terminology I'll use it I don't care

worn bluff
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it might just be who you happen to know but i know a fair amount of people who are smart and good at other video games but they just don’t spend that much time in FF to bother improving in this one game

round burrow
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Me with two games:

low hearth
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Well

terse zodiac
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Yeah ofc thats fair i just feel its much more common for a grey to be results of deaths bc pf is full of deaths, ofc they gonna have low parses

round burrow
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except im more so trynna improve on ff though

low hearth
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It is hard to low digit grey without a death CAUGHT

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You gotta be on like auto pilot

dull drum
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mb

worn bluff
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i mean if you stick a sprout who hasn’t really been working on gcd uptime into savage with full crafted

low hearth
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even on healer

worn bluff
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it’s likely going to happen

low hearth
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just press glare bro 😭

worn bluff
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i’m not saying it’s hard for them to improve

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but it def will happen to start

terse zodiac
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would just come down to if your gcd downtime/rotation mistakes give you the same damage loss as 1/2 deaths

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deaths are pretty catastrophic

low hearth
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yea if you die just wall it

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cause a wipe

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forbidden tech

rain geode
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I guess it's not like anybody runs it anymore but I'm kinda surprised my doom train purples are still purple

queen raft
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.-.

sleek moon
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when someone is having issues with a msq duty or whatever I usually check YT vids to get a refresher on the duty, and the majority of people uploading msq videos do like 1 gcd every 4s

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if they have to dodge they dont dodge while hitting a button

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they fully stop hitting buttons

dull drum
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i do that too thoughts

queen raft
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Whenever I'm moving I'm casting AoE on enemies

rain geode
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Oh wow my last m10s completetion was Feb 2 I might actually need to derust for one book clear lmao

sleek moon
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next time you do trial roulette or some other single boss fights, put the log in xivanalysis and check the lowest dps people

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their uptime is atrocious

worn bluff
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i mean it’s all relative. happens in lots of games people go “how is it possible for someone to not know the basics”

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sometimes people just don’t play the game enough to learn the basics, or didn’t care enough to learn them

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it’s not like they’re not capable of it

frigid swan
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Started progging UWU this is lowkey fun

loud swift
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it is loads of fun

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good luck!

frigid swan
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I’m lowkey flopping as MT but I’m having fun

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Currently P1 sisters but still cleaning up spiny

low hearth
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It’s chill

limpid edge
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Endgame is end of the game

limpid edge
worn bluff
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yeah a lot is habits

limpid edge
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Even multi-year vets msq andies could get away with 50% uptime cuz they can , no incentive to get better

worn bluff
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also a lot of people don’t really follow guides in games or get feedback

low hearth
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mb

limpid edge
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I try not to follow guides if I'm playing for first time

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Just for the blind experience

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But ff14 was rather overwhelming information wise so I looked up what I could do to make it stuff easier to follow

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So many things ff14 also doesn't teach ingame

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Not easy for most people to just figure out to play properly

worn bluff
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i mean even giving feedback like when i was trying to teach my SO good habits i think i overwhelmed her to where she wasn’t interested in it anymore lol

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like i should have mostly focused on just gcd uptime to start

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but then i went into avoiding triple weaving etc which is still important but makes way less of a difference if you do it sometimes

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and she felt less interested in all of the little things so she was like nah i’m good i’ll play other games

low hearth
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real

granite stag
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I just teach my casual friends enough to get them to a point where I can carry them through whatever content we are doing and I don't ask for more than that.

round burrow
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I work better as an ot

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i realize

vestal hollow
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mt isnt uniquely difficult tbh

low hearth
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you just mit autos

worn bluff
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ot should also mit autos on the mt anyways

vestal hollow
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literally all you do differently on mt is go to a different lp

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if you can do m10 as an ot you can do it as an mt

low hearth
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Them autos be hurting GIGACOOKED

latent terrace
finite plank
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mit autos by being more geared

latent terrace
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just go full tanacity

worn bluff
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mit autos by turning off your stance so the ot gets hit instead

wind cypress
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so what you're saying ... tanks should be tanks and take less damage (full tenacity build), healers should heal more (full determination/crit with no direct hit) and dps should dps (what they normally run)?

zealous meteor
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what

low hearth
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Full tenacity might be the move

rain geode
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Huh?

sinful brook
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nothing is stopping tanks from being tanks when they meld not tenacity

wind cypress
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yeah instead of doing 26k dps, you'd do 25k dps with 23% mits and the dps can make up your lack of dps, sounds good

round burrow
sinful brook
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in fact the fact that you're so adverse to pressing your mits until next expansion is more reflective of you playing poorly than anything tbh

round burrow
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i tired reading that and my brain lwkey buffered there a bit

sinful brook
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in a lot of week 1 and world race situations

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the loss of melding full ten actually counts on making checks lol

jolly flume
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if your party has to "make up for" your lack of anything that's not really a good thing !

worn bluff
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there’s something that tanks can do to take less damage it’s called using their kit

sinful brook
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not to mention that you don't lose anything simply for just doing more damage

rain geode
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I dunno I usually have to make up for my parties lack of cuteness

jolly flume
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don't join parties with ugly characters

zealous meteor
low hearth
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Why didn’t I think of that

finite plank
jolly flume
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I helped some people clear FRU literally just because they had cute femras

rain geode
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Also if you kill the boss faster it hits you less

wind cypress
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I know I'm in a minority but.. I think tanks and healers don't need to go 100% dps build to make up for a dps death during the fight just to clear

tender jolt
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cause if you mean min piety then no thats not necessary

tender jolt
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but if you mean going for dps uptime then. yeah?

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obviously?

low hearth
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That 1k might’ve made a difference

wind cypress
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you can't enrage if everyone lives and has 95+% uptime?

worn bluff
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is it possible to clear with full tenacity build? sure but you’re not really gaining anything you’re basically doing a challenge run by purposely running lower dps

tender jolt
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huh

torn mesa
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But why do you need tenacity Hmm

tender jolt
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sorry i thought the tenacity thing was a joke

trim frost
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i don’t know what the point being made here is

tender jolt
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was someone being serious

wind cypress
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it is a joke, going full tenacity is bad xD

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but some tenacity? not always bad in my opinion

tender jolt
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uh

torn mesa
tender jolt
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well everyone's allowed an opinion

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i guess

trim frost
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i mean i guess

tender jolt
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even if it's daft as all hell

zealous meteor
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i mean its not illegal to be wrong

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thats true

wind cypress
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with 0 ten, you'r eprobably exchanging your dps for the healer if they have to pop extra heals to keep you up?

tender jolt
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no

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you're not

trim frost
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not really no

worn bluff
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in most fights tanks rarely die to damage, and if they did it’s usually a mit problem you need to fix anyways

tender jolt
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because if you press the buttons on your screen then nobody is at any deficit

stray forge
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I slot tenacity materia in my dps gear to help the healers out

sinful brook
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weird bug

tender jolt
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the only reason you would be putting healers at a disadvantage is you don't use your mits properly

sinful brook
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but tanks have a lot of these buttons

tender jolt
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what content are we talking about here

sinful brook
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that reduce the damage they take

jolly flume
sleek moon
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you should try healing sometime, it might be the only way to convince you that a healer doesn't plan around tanks having or not having tenacity

sinful brook
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and they come back frequently enough

jolly flume
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the extra heals should be your own

sinful brook
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that you can use them to stop taking so much damage

rain geode
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I mean between two healers keeping the tank up with ogcds should be fairly easy

jolly flume
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press your mit and your healers won't have to work extra

sinful brook
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in heavy damage scenarios

dull drum
tender jolt
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. we're talking about m12s? good grief

dull drum
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he does it to skip hitting mits

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unironically

worn bluff
dull drum
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“if i go full tenacity then i can hit no mits during meteorrain”

tender jolt
dull drum
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like wtf

dull drum
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TRUE

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hoc saves lives

low hearth
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Playing warrior in big 26

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💔🥀

vestal hollow
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fascinating people in this video game

trim frost
zealous meteor
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fox confession: until a few days ago i thought HoC was "Heart of Conundrum"

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it's corundum

latent terrace
trim frost
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anyway

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ten stinky

sleek moon
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our drk yesterday died before 2nd mortal slayer and didnt have mp for tbn

sinful brook
worn bluff
worn bluff
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o

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40% should be safe there then

trim frost
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i could’ve sinked on second slayer idk why i didn’t

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yeah

zealous meteor
worn bluff
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yeah i sink except use short on squishies

trim frost
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in my defense it was my first time getting there in like 1.5 months so i forgor

low hearth
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Press benison

worn bluff
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it’s all good lol

trim frost
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1 😭

worn bluff
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i died after bc i was looking at your dead body lmao

sleek moon
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tbh he didnt say it in vc until it was his turn

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he just said "im gonna die" 2s before he died

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and then said no mp for tbn

low hearth
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He could’ve done the 40% + short ngl

jolly flume
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make ur drks carry super ethers kids

worn bluff
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40 dark mind should live

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40 and anything else there probably

finite plank
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res invuln mit

sleek moon
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goes through it

wind cypress
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hm so maybe the problem all along was dpses blowing up before enrage and tanks/healers carrying them through and not the tank/healer build 🤔 , nah I'm just being feisty, it's saturday - game night yee o// tc

stray forge
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I hate games

jolly flume
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I don't think you can reasonably say that pf healers are carrying shit

wind cypress
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yee true

rain geode
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Not usually at least

grand mesa
trim frost
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10s… i just didn’t press it in time bc i forgot😭

grand mesa
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Ah

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If ur 2-4

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You can pretty much just press it after first one hits and it covers 2-4

trim frost
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i knowwww i did it right the first time

grand mesa
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😔

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It's okay, you only managed to tank my uptime a few %s

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jk

trim frost
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i’ll fix it in the reclear i promise

grand mesa
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Well, that happening wasn't a joke

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But I don't actually care that it happened if you actually still feel bad abt it

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As long as ur learning xo

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Also

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U can ramp as soon as the castbar for mortal appears iirc

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15s mits halfway into cast

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Cast is 10s, 1-4 orbs is another 10

trim frost
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ye that’s what i do

grand mesa
stray forge
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How do I remove my sinuses completely from my body

grand mesa
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Idk why pf tanks wait so long to press ramp

worn bluff
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it was slayer 2 i just assume healers will ignore us for that one

grand mesa
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Tbh

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I have jack shit to give you bc or card alignment

worn bluff
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we have everything it’s fine

grand mesa
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Fair

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Though

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If you say you need help

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I will throw u an exalt and CI

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Should be equiv to a 15%

worn bluff
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i ramp 40 bulwark there since there are no other tank things left in the fight

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and intervention someone else

grand mesa
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Aye

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I.

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See way too many tanks just blow up there for whatever reason

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idk why

finite plank
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give magical dps a short mit in case of 3x kb and they fail parry check

worn bluff
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i switched to normal opener so my 30s comes up right before 1st hit on slayer 1. so i need to pop 90 either before or after

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before if first hit, otherwise after

trim frost
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oh in other news my p2 did lock in as a 67

rain geode
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Give every job a 40% that lasts 2 seconds

worn bluff
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need two weave slots for intervention/sheltron so i can get bonus mit on both tanks if we’re same hit

trim frost
worn bluff
trim frost
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don’t intend to because i’m #washed

worn bluff
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you would have gotten like an 80+ if our kt was faster

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or if we potted

terse zodiac
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holy cow there is a horrendous sphene "farm" group up

jolly flume
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farm group for an ex that came out three patches ago

terse zodiac
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hey a mf wants wings

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they should reveal the big one in the live letter i think

jolly flume
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it's just the inverse law of item level again

worn bluff
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i wonder what ugly nostalgia bait mount it will be this time

jolly flume
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the more ilvl you outscale the content by, the proportionally worse the players are gonna be

jolly flume
worn bluff
#

“wow where did you get that bahamut mount?” - no one

terse zodiac
#

im thinkin sephiroth 1 wing

jolly flume
#

we need more cute mounts

trim frost
#

yeah

jolly flume
#

I dual main axolotl and the mogstation cat

trim frost
#

was gonna say prob something sephiroth related

worn bluff
#

axolotl and yan for me

jolly flume
#

cute mounts do NOT belong to raiders

terse zodiac
#

bahamut wings are a possibility ig

rapid whale
#

jenova was the bad guy all along

trim frost
trim frost
#

i look like this

grand mesa
#

I miss my tri head fire bird

#

Actually best fight that tier

finite plank
#

elmo

grand mesa
#

Fuck elmo

#

Dogwater strat

rapid whale
#

y was a strat called elmo

grand mesa
#

The raidplan had elmo images in the nados

worn bluff
#

EW raids had pretty good mounts. idk what happened in DT

low hearth
#

I liked the Apocryphal Bahamut mount

worn bluff
#

yan should have been the cruiserweight mount

low hearth
#

Tbh

rapid whale
#

imagine how mad people woulda been if it was the yan

worn bluff
#

giant bomb for LHW

grand mesa
low hearth
#

No way they locked the Yan mount behind savage grrrrr

grand mesa
#

Or hate it if you don't do savage ig

worn bluff
#

HW mount should be your character wearing the snek on ground and then it turns into the bigger snek in the air

grand mesa
#

snake^2..

#

I miss p8

worn bluff
#

i wish i did p8 when it was current

round burrow
#

Elmos world

rapid whale
#

casuals who never even did savage pretending to be fans of the yans smh

low hearth
#

mb

zealous meteor
rapid whale
#

they are satan incarnate

low hearth
finite plank
#

i moreso hate the jabbas more than the yan

zealous meteor
visual geyser
#

simple glam

versed kayak
#

oh that dyes nicely

#

was thinking about using it too

sick dirge
#

how do people generally resolve alluring order in advanced namazuconcern its kinda pissing me off

finite plank
#

i've not touched ff14 since reclears and a folllowing migraine incident that involve puking out meds again

#

what's alluring

rain geode
#

sickness is the ultimate killer of motivation

#

I got super sick early on for like 2 weeks and ever since then Ive been getting hit with constant random bouts of tiredness

sleek moon
#

i personally solve it by dropping aoes from middle to a cardinal, and then forced march to my intercardinal

versed kayak
#

oh its that mech, the forced march is kinda short so I usually just winged it

sleek moon
#

can also just drop all the puddles middle and march to your corner

visual geyser
#

farmin chaotic

#

peak content

#

nevermind

sleek moon
#

wiped huh

visual geyser
#

Wiped and left

sick dirge
#

advanced swordmaster despairBahamut

visual geyser
#

Easy fight

#

Just take the vuln stack on that one mechanic

#

So you only have to dodge 1 direction

sick dirge
#

what mechanic

visual geyser
#

And the rest is free

#

The mech where you have to hid your hole from 2 positions

#

If you get hit by the same marker twice you get a vuln stack and only need to dodge 1

#

You’ll have to heal bot after tho

sick dirge
#

mooglethink gonna need to do advanced more. this is my first time (blind) diving into it

#

lowkey felt like a burden with every stupid death even though it was a practice group noobkekw

low hearth
#

You new gen raiders wouldn’t have survived Sildihn

#

GIGACOOKED 👉 ⚡

tawdry delta
#

only remotely difficult boss of sildihn is last one and that one has a cheese strat

dreamy whale
#

She raid my sildih

#

Also I made a borger

low hearth
#

Yo we see it bro

dreamy whale
#

Lmaoo

low hearth
#

Bro made a Krabby Patty 💔🥀

dreamy whale
#

Yea cause it’s mf delicious

sleek moon
#

i eat the vuln south and start whichever south side is safe

#

and then move cw or ccw depending on which one is safe

#

still a small chance of it turning into a mess

clear plume
#

crafted weapon btw for people who say gear is why theyre grey frfr

#

dped to the pct

rapid whale
#

so even less than wk1 gear

#

ppl be coping fr

#

almost blue even

clear plume
#

ye its my ninja char so fracted left side, but 790 right side

rain geode
#

Pretty sure some of my week 2-3 clears are still technically blues

rapid whale
#

first run lol

jolly flume
#

pretty much all my week 1/2 kills that didn't have deaths are still 60+ lol

worn bluff
#

hey bapple can i have some gil

jolly flume
#

hey bapple can i have cart mount

worn bluff
#

i need it i don’t even have 100m anymore

rapid whale
#

dam

#

were u paying for peoples loot or something

worn bluff
#

no i was just too lazy to craft my own stuff this tier

#

also i bought yan

rapid whale
#

oic

worn bluff
#

although i made back like 10m w a couple of c41s last week

remote gate
#

if i pay you in umamusume art will you clear me

jolly flume
#

I'd do it for holo art

#

idc about them horses

remote gate
#

what about endfield art

#

you won't catch me playing yhe game but i will share its art

jolly flume
#

I'm a bit of a chenjoyer myself

worn bluff
#

lycia

thin fox
jolly flume
remote gate
remote gate
thin fox
#

No

terse zodiac
#

why is some dood visiting aether begging people to leave the server 😭

low hearth
#

mb

static anvil
terse zodiac
#

idk i give up understanding people in ff theres so many oddballs

thin tartan
#

how the fuck am i supposed to cap fates in kholusia

#

this zone is massive

#

like what

valid solar
#

which world ill help

thin tartan
#

mid

valid solar
#

be right there

thin tartan
#

im just mindlessly doing it tho

#

if thats ok

turbid haven
#

Wouldn’t a kingdom hearts alliance collab for 8.0 be cool?

#

I don’t know about the disney part but it could done with original material

proper cave
#

That's the problem. Even the original stuff count as Disney properties

#

Yoshida has said before that he straight just doesn't want to deal with the bureaucracy needed to pull that off

wicked delta
#

Working with anything Disney sounds like a fucking nightmare

#

I don’t blame him

turbid haven
#

How many people here even like the FF11 collab

proper cave
#

FF11 is growing again

#

Like they've had to seal off a handful of servers due to congestion

#

So a lot apparently

rapid whale
#

11 is lit

worn bluff
#

i played 11 and didn’t care too much about the 11 collab

#

there’s not that much i miss about those characters

rapid whale
#

nuh uh

night panther
#

Modern MMOs have moved so far away from what made the genre unique and special to begin with that people are craving the old style more and more

#

Not that there's anything wrong with what WoW and XIV are now, I'm playing XIV after all. But there's definitely an itch they don't scratch anymore that some of the older ones still do

verbal whale
night panther
#

None in particular, more generally speaking. There are different habits in game design now than there used to be, the differences between FFXI and FFXIV showing just some of those trends

verbal whale
#

imo nothing come close to everquest2 in its hayday

night panther
#

It's funny how relatively close to each other's release EQ1 and 2 ended up being, looking back.

#

Yet they're quite different games

verbal whale
#

eq2 bard was the best bard in any game ever

tough gorge
#

yeah old mmos just wanted you to play as a community in general

#

I used to play a korean mmo as a kid

#

sure you could play "solo" but you still had to rely on other people so you could do so, like buffers
and there was an overall xp bonus the more ppl you had in your party

mortal flower
#

MMOs are trending less towards [Massive Multiplayer Online] and more towards [Solo, I'm Scared of Community Interaction, Please Give Me Trusts]

#

Community has never felt more disjointed or even nonexistent.

#

You matchmake into content or just run it with trusts

#

No sense of world chat or community interaction outside of one or two specific zones

#

FFXIV specifically has an issue with the zones of this game meaning and having nothing within them

verbal whale
#

even raiding is just a few friends theres no interaction outside of a couple of the same people

mortal flower
#

Being solely a backdrop for quests

#

Barely any rep grinds, no reason to interact with a zone long term, jo more than like 5 players in an open world zone at any time

#

No meta quests that demand you vibe or grind within zones

#

No sense of overarching goals beyond just gearing

#

Like I could point to something like GW2 and masteries [and even if I hate that system for diffrent reasons] it gives players a reason to stay in a zone

somber forge
#

I still hop into EverQuest when I want old school MMO. Graphics are tough to deal with though. They didn’t age well.

mortal flower
#

It gives a reason for players to share info

#

It gives a reason for players to exist in the same zone and work together via the heart POIs

tired egret
#

Tbh only time I even seen exploration matter in MMOs was for EXP and maybe tiny cosmetic rewards

verbal whale
#

fasrming openworld bosses on timers in EQ was everything

tired egret
#

But that was for MapleStory2 and Tree of Savior...

mortal flower
#

Which had its BIS/raid ready weapons

#

Be solely from rare mob drops

#

So you had to be in the zones, farming

#

To get 500 cool guy shards

tired egret
#

But I absolutely agree there should be more reasons to be in a zone

verbal whale
#

if they remastered graphics and such on EQ2 and relaunched it .... it would be wildly popular

mortal flower
#

To get the cool guy weapons

tired egret
#

Or better reasons to grind

mortal flower
#

Why are we even playing an MMO

tired egret
#

And they added it while also already having Squadrons

#

Which.... is one decision

#

Real smart indeed

verbal whale
#

msq is good but sooo solo should be able to be done in groups for shared experiences

mortal flower
#

Other things old MMOs also do well

#

Is scale

#

The world feels big

#

Just because of how restictive fast travel can be

#

Now you can just press on a quest get told where the nearest fast TP point is and then click again so it'll auto walk you to the NPC like it's some crap mobile korean RPG

tough gorge
#

ngl sometimes I feel nostalgic for lineage 2 (the kmmo I mentioned earlier)

#

there's a private server project for it that's incredibly well received and I kinda miss playing on it

mortal flower
#

Modern MMOs have strayed so far from what makes the MMO an MMO

tired egret
#

It's all about them instanced duties

#

And only giving a crap about proper player interaction in endgame

verbal whale
#

thats the story as old as time... games have a hard time making try hards and casuals both happy

mortal flower
#

This is more about making the MMO feel like a large interconnected community

#

With multiple avenues of progression, or content to do or zones to join others in

#

Rather than a set of menus

verbal whale
#

Im sdaying that is part of what makes the "community" feel disjointed

mortal flower
#

And 3 or 4 pieces of content you'll just run solo anyways because you can't be bothered to find a group

finite plank
#

is this thing useful

#

what exactly does scales with item level mean in this sense

visual geyser
#

I mean not really no? But if you want extra damage don’t see the harm

verbal whale
#

To be honest, though the same side of that argument could be said that if you’ve ever been an ecstatic or a long-term gain rate group, you realize how hard it is to find actual dependable people that aren’t not flaky so maybe games have steered away a little bit from you depending on others due to just people not being reliable

robust shoal
trim frost
# finite plank is this thing useful

not particularly but if you're running variant solo as tank and don't need external self healing then it helps get slightly more damage out i guess

thin tartan
#

is the dot not better

#

?

trim frost
#

you can run both

#

i did dot + eagle eye

robust shoal
#

scales with item level just means it has different scaling than regular attacks, like lb and OC actions

#

the damage output is generally better than the potency implies but it's still not good

trim frost
#

final fantasy fourteen have consistent tooltips challenge impossible

thin tartan
#

XD

thin tartan
#

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

wicked delta
#

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb

dreamy whale
#

I heard criterion aint got shit for rewards

valid solar
dreamy whale
#

True

#

However

#

Fell out with my friend group so no need to play bg3 at night

#

Savage incoming

valid solar
stray forge
#

Bro said it was epic that he fell out with his friends kekw

dreamy whale
#

Lmaoo

#

It’s epic I get to prog instead of replay bg3 for the 5th time 2 nights a week

inner shadow
#

Tomes of Mnemonics is the highest IL in game?

#

What's the best endgame gear to have?

lyric summit
#

mix of heavyweight savage and weekly capped tome gear upgraded with augments that drop in savage also

inner shadow
#

What is currently weekly capped tomestones?

#

Every week is different?

tired egret
inner shadow
#

I need high IL just to get into these savage thought

wind cypress
#

770 is enough to get you in for heavyweight

inner shadow
#

Tomestone of poetics is only up to lvl 90?

jolly flume
#

poetics are exclusively for old gear

#

if you need gear for savage the fastest way is to buy a set of 770 crafted and the cheapest way is to cap (450/450) your mnemonics every week and buy a set of 780 tome gear

#

realistically you're going to end up somewhere in between

inner shadow
#

And I see that I can upgrade the bygone gear up to IL 790

#

Wow a whole new challange 🙂
I think i'll start with crafting the gear myself, I like crafters but they are not 100 yet

loud nymph
#

yes the bygone brass gear can be upgraded to 790 with drops from the current savage tier

stray forge
#

static cancelled halfway through bc phys ranged had to leave GladgePlant

#

bro is gonna sit in here all day super reacting people 🥀

sweet creek
#

returning player just got 100 and finished dawntrail, unlocked some of the endgame raids. What should be my priority getting going? I bought crafted 770 healer gear

loud nymph
static anvil
loud nymph
#

just use PF like everyone else

iron jewel
#

Go to Aether if you can. If Aether is blocked, then it’s likely Primal will have some parties.

static anvil
#

gotcha wasnt sure if they were in pf im in the same boat as vivi but in dynamis, ill try aether thanks!!

iron jewel
#

You’ll probably want to review that as well.

worn bluff
#

i would also check the balance for rotation fundamentals and spend at least 10 mins on a training dummy

#

if you’re not used to lv100 rotation yet

#

don’t have to be perfect but opener is free damage so at least have an idea of what the opener is

static anvil
#

awesome tysm !

dapper zealot
#

I would say an opener is a basic requirement for savage

loud nymph
#

Also don't forget to stock up on current food (dependent on job, mandatory when progging savage) and potions (mandatory when working on a fight's enrage timer)

remote gate
#

make sure your gear isnt broken too btw

limpid edge
#

where the hector guide for criterion?

loud nymph
#

He doesn't usually do them

low hearth
#

where the hector guide for forked tower?

limpid edge
#

hector save us

inner shadow
#

Why does it recommend the lvl 99 item set and not a level 100 (IL 740), is there something special about this set?

zealous meteor
#

compare the stats shown in the tooltip

#

when buying crafted gear, make sure you always buy hq gear

inner shadow
zealous meteor
#

its magic damage is much better

inner shadow
#

It also seems my IL isn't rising when I equip it

inner shadow
wicked delta
#

why are you buying ceremonial gear

#

in the first place

daring pine
#

that's last tier crafted

#

and it's nq too

inner shadow
wicked delta
inner shadow
wicked delta
daring pine
#

yeah but you're gonna end up buying it anyway

wicked delta
#

yeah

daring pine
#

so then you would have bought a ceremonial weapon on top of a courtly lover's one

#

meaning more gil in the long run

inner shadow
#

It's also seems like a good challenge for me to craft the items

zealous meteor
#

ceremonial gear is already too low ilvl to do the newest normal trial

jolly flume
#

crafting requires an upfront investment of both gil and sanity

inner shadow
#

idk I haven't put a lot of thought into it

dapper zealot
#

You basically just wasted money on nq gear that's worse

jolly flume
#

if you want to raise your item level right now

#

just go play the game and buy the old uncapped tome gear

#

you can at least get to 750 without buying anything

#

and without any real timegate

dapper zealot
#

They're trying to get into savage

zealous meteor
#

a mix of uncapped tome gear and normal raid gear should get you all the way to 8.0 at which point better ilvl gear will be poetics and msq rewards

dapper zealot
#

770 should be the bare minimum tbh

jolly flume
#

well yes but they can't do heavyweight normal in 690 lol

zealous meteor
#

yeah

limpid edge
#

goto limsa and ask for some gil, im sure one of those multi-billioanire raiders will give you somethin

inner shadow
#

That's not how I roll

daring pine
#

isn't gil begging against tos or something

zealous meteor
#

get uncapped gear and 7.4 dungeon gear, use that to get heavyweight normal gear, slowly upgrade your gear with capped tomes

inner shadow
#

uncapped is mathematics?

zealous meteor
#

yes

#

and capped is mnemonics

#

doing roulettes on a lv100 job should get you plenty of mathematics

inner shadow
#

So historia set

zealous meteor
#

yep

low hearth
#

and you need Gil to start

dapper zealot
#

It'll take a long time

zealous meteor
#

yeah gearing up my crafters and gatherers took a good few million gil

low hearth
#

Like 3-4 mil yea

zealous meteor
#

and even if you're pentamelded (which is very expensive) you want food to craft stuff more reliably

low hearth
#

I almost went broke GIGACOOKED

#

Had to get a loan bro

daring pine
#

so all i had t odo was bash my head against a wall getting it melded

jolly flume
#

I spent 40 mil speedrunning my crafters to 100 and I haven't crafted an item since

wicked delta
#

i made a lot of money from idiots who bought firmanent stuff

jolly flume
#

it's me I'm the idiot

zealous meteor
#

crafting CAN make you decent money but it requires a huge upfront investment

jolly flume
#

40 mil is still way better than spending hours in my life doing that bullshit

limpid edge
#

hey if it saves time for them, it's somethin valuable

inner shadow
#

I have good income so Idc if I spent 30k on nq gear

jolly flume
#

I'd rather pay one hour's worth of minimum wage worth of gil than spend like 20 hours in diadem lmfao

zealous meteor
dapper zealot
#

I'm like going between 3-4 different things to make money rn, had to drop a bunch of money to buy a shiton of levinchrome

inner shadow
dapper zealot
#

Nq is straight up a waste of money

visual geyser
#

Nq is dogshit bro

#

You only get the nq if you only care about the glamour

wicked delta
#

people dont even buy nq for gear if its current content

#

only glams

#

its worthless

inner shadow
#

Yeah ok I agree it wasnt the best decision

#

I just wanted something cheap with high IL so I can go into 695 activities

dapper zealot
#

Grab the hunt vendor gear if you're really desperate

#

Quetzali is 720

inner shadow
#

with sack of nuts?

dapper zealot
#

Yes

inner shadow
#

Ill go with historia set, i'll keep this as-is as I finish the last MSQ for dawntrail

low hearth
#

Cap your mnemonic tomes before Tuesday

#

and do m12n

inner shadow
wicked delta
low hearth
#

You need the weekly m12n reward for tome weapon later

inner shadow
#

IM a new endgamer, give me a month or 2 mewpaissa

#

BUT - I'm excited since it's a whole new world, really ffxiv never stops suprising

low hearth
#

Bro can’t even do the raids 🥀

dreamy whale
low hearth
#

any endgame lounge billionaires wanna help bro out

dreamy whale
#

Wdym its only like

jolly flume
#

only if theyre a femra

dreamy whale
#

A couple milly to get the crafted shit

#

Idk about pentameld but

low hearth
#

What job you play bro @inner shadow

wicked delta
jolly flume
#

dude he doesnt even care about the gil he spent on you I guarantee it

#

just stop talking about it and actually do it

wicked delta
#

He gave me a pentamelded set for free he dgaf about money lol

jolly flume
#

all talk no action is like FeelsLateMan

wicked delta
low hearth
#

You might gotta do savage @dreamy whale

#

Like Vamp Fatale

dreamy whale
jolly flume
#

👌

wicked delta
#

I’ll believe it when I see it

jolly flume
#

just mentioning it because that's been the plan for like months

wicked delta
#

Even one instance will be enough for me atp

dreamy whale
#

Pf soonge

rapid whale
#

I'll go with you on an alt job

#

We troll together

dreamy whale
#

Fire

#

I got bapple alt and valcors

low hearth
#

Milk Milk book run 😭

wicked delta
#

lizard

jolly flume
#

how dare you deface a perfectly good femra like that

wicked delta
#

okay sorry

#

i miss her...

sleek moon
wicked delta
sleek moon
#

i still had a few dragon sight macros until a couple weeks ago

wicked delta
sleek moon
#

that's how much i play drg

sinful brook
#

I still have the blood of the dragon button on my bars

#

I just cleared the tier on it

dreamy whale
#

@rapid whale @valid solar prog ElezenInLove

valid solar
#

give me a few minutes to finish up this gpose and we can go

dreamy whale
#

Yippee

#

Pls bring markers I beg

sinful brook
#

No

#

Do it by hand

jolly flume
#

I love huffing markers

worn bluff
craggy marsh
#

what's da prog

low hearth
#

Vamp stomp

dreamy whale
sinful brook
#

Whatever the first tb is called

worn bluff
#

hardcore raid progression

sinful brook
#

Nah just clear baby fight for babies

low hearth
#

Hardcore prog 💔

craggy marsh
#

she's draining the audience, of their prog

dreamy whale
#

I have very interesting names joining

#

Behold

low hearth
#

I can’t join anyways

dreamy whale
#

COOKED

low hearth
#

w*rk 💔🥀

worn bluff
#

microd bceCry3Tears

sleek moon
#

alright time to try criterion

jolly flume
#

Watashia KamidesuflowercuteJenova joins the party.

sleek moon
#

i havent even looked into the arrowslop boss

low hearth
#

Gotta try out the 795 gunblade

dreamy whale
#

Ye I will be

#

Ts filling up mad quickly

#

I got space for a regen healer and a tank

#

Nvm just a tank

valid solar
#

damn bro did not lock out slots for us

#

gg

dreamy whale
#

Wait I can do that?

#

💀

sinful brook
#

Bruh

#

He not even trying

dreamy whale
#

I DIDNT KNOWW

sinful brook
#

Doesn't even press the buttons

#

Just close the pf disband and remake

low hearth
dreamy whale
#

SHE FILLED HELP

sinful brook
#

Promote someone else

#

And leave lol

wicked delta
craggy marsh
jolly flume
#

I am part of the problem

zealous meteor
daring pine
valid solar
#

Satsu Ki 🌸 Gilgamesh joins the party.

daring pine
valid solar
#

bro executed phase 2 of his plan and fantad to femra but their tomestone pfp is still the lalafell so you can identify them still

craggy marsh
#

Akame Dewm 🌸 Zalera joins the party.

rapid whale
#

Oh there already in

zealous meteor
#

Angy Mango 🌸 Lala joins the party.

rapid whale
#

Stream where @dreamy whale

craggy marsh
zealous meteor
worn bluff
zealous meteor
#

i just forget the world you're on

rapid whale
#

Sam fake fan

worn bluff
#

i saw a pf up yest

rapid whale
craggy marsh
valid solar
rapid whale
#

Convicted felon IRL dude

daring pine
#

mango come here

worn bluff
craggy marsh
daring pine
craggy marsh
rapid whale
#

I can't believe I got out of bed for hitting

#

Nothing

#

Surely cow cow will be clear ready after one instance

sinful brook
#

Surely bovine bovine won't die to the first mechanic

dreamy whale
#

@rapid whale @valid solar spots openge

valid solar
#

alright, be right there

dreamy whale
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What do u need

valid solar
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whats your ign again

wicked delta
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give me content

dreamy whale
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Game Journalist

dapper zealot
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Surely cattle cattle won't choke

valid solar
dreamy whale
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Mf pf aint up add me

loud swift
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😭

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wassup what you guys doing

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@dreamy whale Are you finally doing savage

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jolly flume
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group pregnancy test

dreamy whale
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Oh cooked one sec

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loud swift
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ive only done 9s on melee