endgame-lounge

[thin fox]

alt jobs

[devout wraith]

But apparently its not unlocked unless you beat those criterions before at least once

[thin fox]

do u know how many ppl want to alt job in this game

but dont

because of how fucking awful the gearing is

[shy obsidian]

fair point

[thin fox]

unless you want to just run multiple alts

[kindred bison]

points at Chaotic

Same reason.

[worldly rivet]

àç

[trim frost]

i dont know where you got this information

[kindred bison]

We should honestly have like 5 sets to mix between for endgame. Upgraded AF (with Relic weapons), Chaotic, Tome, Savage, and Criterion.

[trim frost]

i dont know if the current system warrants having so many alternatives tbh

[devout wraith]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/shop/ee09374de2e/?item=e0284490aa1&type=currency&patch=latest

[trim frost]

because the difference is just substats

[kindred bison]

It’d allow you to play more than 2 jobs per tier

[alpine plover]

ok so someone told me that you need to kill all 3 bosses in advanced for it to show up?

[kindred bison]

With the same gear level

[devout wraith]

All of the previous criterion items can be bought from that merchant

[shy obsidian]

oh boy

[thin fox]

@alpine plover

[trim frost]

note the currencies

[rain geode]

actually I dont hate the idea of making the gear the same as the other gear but just you can get it however YOU want

[trim frost]

this page is kinda dogshit because it's not listing the items in a clear order

[alpine plover]

it seems we have connected our braincells together

[amber fable]

Raise tome cap and allow different content give books instead

[alpine plover]

so @devout wraith still scammed

[dapper zealot]

Rip

[devout wraith]

Bruh

Youre right its just the ester

[trim frost]

the only shared reward among multiple criterions is ester and materia there's nothing related to mounts being shared

[devout wraith]

Im spreading misinformation

[amber fable]

665 ilvl tho

Could have made it 780

[thin tartan]

get me in there chief!

[alpine plover]

and how much do you get for

one run?

[thin tartan]

shit!

[thin fox]

billy someone in balance confirmed

[thin tartan]

not even savage

yeah i saw..

[thin fox]

clearing advanced makes ester appear in shop

[thin tartan]

i told like

4 people

[thin fox]

and you dont need aloalo clear

[thin tartan]

about this

wait what?

what?

[thin fox]

tell THIS

[thin tartan]

what?

[thin fox]

you dont need aloalo clear

[thin tartan]

WAIT SO YHOU DIDNT

[thin fox]

"I can confirm that the ester is only visible in the shop after clearing Advanced. I have not cleared Aloaloa Island Criterion or Savage"

[thin tartan]

OH MY GOD

[alpine plover]

so you've been scammed too villy

[thin tartan]

I THOPUGHT YOU SAID YOU CLEARED

[alpine plover]

gg

[thin fox]

i think u misunderstood me earlier

[thin tartan]

INX I HOPE U SLIP ON A BANANAN WHILE DRIVING

[thin fox]

but yeah its confirmed in balance

dont need aloalo clear

ester appears after beating advanced

costs 40 brass (advanced currency)

[trim frost]

i mean technically aais is still more efficient then

i assume it's 4 brass/run so that's still 10 runs for one ester

or five criterion runs

[devout wraith]

:(

[amber fable]

MT criterion will give more brass

Just farm that

[trim frost]

criterion gives manuscript

but it's 20 manuscripts for ester

thats all

[dapper zealot]

Assuming you've already learnt and can reclear consistently

[shy obsidian]

how much manuscripts per run?

[trim frost]

also presumably 4

[amber fable]

Per boss?

[devout wraith]

Again

[trim frost]

i'm basing it off the prices of materia (lol)

[shy obsidian]

five Merchant's Tale runs vs. one Aloalo Island run....

[trim frost]

the ew criterion savages gave 1 manuscript but it looks like mt criterion will give 4

[daring pine]

valcors my static let me have a twine from our clear im so happy

[trim frost]

yay

[daring pine]

they have a sheet for the gear stuff

makes it very simple

[alpine plover]

yess

i also have that

[daring pine]

we're gonna do reclears tonight

idk if they'll be reclearing 9

i hope so

[thin tartan]

OH RIGHT SAVAGE

[alpine plover]

billy

[sleek moon]

is htat a korean slur

[alpine plover]

i saw that

[thin tartan]

ALUKAH

no its what happens when you type oh right when you forget to switch the keyboard back to english from korean

[kindred bison]

It was a slur

[shy obsidian]

so is it, like, STILL more efficient to do Aloalo Island if ya want the ester?

[kindred bison]

Calling it

[daring pine]

thank you yt

[amber fable]

Yes

[kindred bison]

(We’re bullying Villy)

[wind cypress]

m9s - m11s cleared again and 0 loot 😬 .. again

[sleek moon]

the bed in the MT lobby is usable

[remote gate]

i open Twitter and its a dude complaining about the rewards of the crit dungeon

[thin fox]

how could someone complain about the rewards?

[dapper zealot]

They are pretty doodoo

[thin tartan]

its inx

[thin fox]

you would need rewards to complain about them

[trim frost]

its inx

[dapper zealot]

kek

[thin fox]

I have not psoted about them

yet

[wind cypress]

it's the adventure we're all after right?

[amber fable]

Criterion continuing tradition of dogshit rewards

[sleek moon]

if its not gear people dont want it

[daring pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589292970541318185/1447868564542455981/caption-44.gif

[wind cypress]

ah yes min maxers

[sleek moon]

atp people need to be more specific, they ask for more rewards and yoshida adds more cosmetics lol

just ask for more gear directly

[kindred bison]

They could actually give the gear from these stats now…

[thin fox]

MORE OPTIOSN FOR GEARING

[daring pine]

oh valcors i have 3 books from the bros

[thin fox]

MORE SOURCES OF TWINES/SHINES

[daring pine]

hm

[thin fox]

ALT BIS

[kindred bison]

We have open glam.

[thin fox]

NEW WEAPON GLAMS INSTEAD OF GIVING THE ENDWALKER ONES AGAIN

heres an idea

if you clear criterion you raise your tome cap for the week

[amber fable]

Not enough funds /s

[alpine plover]

arthars 😭

[amber fable]

Fork tower normal was due to that

[thin fox]

clearing criterion raises tome cap to 900

instantly

for the week

there you go

[alpine plover]

ngl marce i think you can just ask them

to reclear 9

it's like a 10min trip adventure anyway

[daring pine]

yea true

i only need casting earring

why she so hat

[zealous meteor]

because you're wearing a hat

[daring pine]

nuh uh

[dapper zealot]

aaaaa I need my always yes plogon

[daring pine]

drools everywhere

[alpine plover]

glazing

[dapper prawn]

This is funnier than the 1 materia incident

Do you know how many levels of approval this weapon reward had to go through

[daring pine]

the glazer

im gonna get tome feet and then twine it also

[alpine plover]

Show me your tome footwork

[daring pine]

i wont have enough to get pants once i ca

cap*

so..

yay time for more dungeon

wait a fucking minute

[zealous meteor]

omg

[dapper zealot]

bruh fucking giphy so ass with the gif selection

sam, post the 'wait a minute' kid for me

[zealous meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132

this one

?

[dapper zealot]

yes

now imagine I replied to marce with that :)

[alpine plover]

Wtf djura

Deep Canal Raider

[kindred bison]

Reel FSH Main

[dapper zealot]

raid my canal

[rapid whale]

wait isnt aiming triple glaze triple twine

how do u have extra glaze already

[unique fjord]

Anyone know what the new NPC ||Y'nazqha|| headpiece is? ||(The one while she is in her gleaner outfit)||

[rapid whale]

isnt it the crafting helm

[unique fjord]

it might be! let me take a look

[rapid whale]

crested headband of crafting

[unique fjord]

it is!! Thank you!!

[daring pine]

i dont

i paused my brd gearing cuz im doing rdm with static

[rapid whale]

oic

o7

glad you arent giving up after 1 negative static exp

[finite plank]

we did ask for more options to gear tomes faster

although, this would want to make it something on release with savage or before

[alpine plover]

are the accessories just glam?

or do they have stats

the sea-folk ones

[finite plank]

this isn't the first time we have a tier with some jobs needing 3-6 pieces of tome gear

[daring pine]

yo im so ass at swordmaster holy

[daring pine]

yea ofc not

[rapid whale]

gud gud

[trim frost]

swordmaster is so fun

i hope it's good in criterion

[daring pine]

might swap to brd for these dungeons tbh

give me my movement back

[rapid whale]

the criterion fights look super fun

[daring pine]

valcors i just popped a pimple it hurts

[trim frost]

idk how the scaling is this time but like

solo takes so fucking long

[rapid whale]

stuff hurts

o u mean like that

yea no idea

r u using the lost actions for dmg

[daring pine]

xeems is gonna post a vid soloing it on warrior or something

probably

[rapid whale]

i imagine thats big on solo

[trim frost]

but if i dont do solo then i have no path guarantees bc people just wanna do whatever

yeah

but it still takes a fuckton of time

[daring pine]

how do i unlock the uuh

harder ones

[trim frost]

i was doing war solo for swordmaster path and i think it took me like 18 minutes or something

to unlock advanced u need to beat each final boss at least once

[daring pine]

i see

[trim frost]

criterion.... i think beat advanced

[daring pine]

i did the mermaid lady and swordmaster

more paths to go

o i need to spend some maths so i dont cap

[trim frost]

i thiiiink i'm 3/4 on the left path now

[shy obsidian]

WHAT THE HECK IS HAPPENING HERE

[trim frost]

its just dont show hole

ezpz

[daring pine]

yeah

take damage from back and front

[shy obsidian]

The arrows are unfortunately REALLY small

[daring pine]

if you take damage from sides you get a vuln

[shy obsidian]

And this is CRITERION FOOTAGE mind you

[daring pine]

use eyes

[shy obsidian]

It qas already iffy in my normal runs… god knows how bad it is in criterion

[trim frost]

the floor arrows aren't really meant to be the primary indicator

[shy obsidian]

Oh yeah

I forgot the big crescents are there too

[rapid whale]

?

[daring pine]

??

https://tenor.com/view/hey-did-you-see-that-bunny-bnuuy-buuny-gif-10612386367290483440

[shy obsidian]

I’m a floor looker 😔

[trim frost]

did he post in here too

[daring pine]

yes

[shy obsidian]

Darya also looks scary lmao

Especially her memory game

[trim frost]

assuming they have no other plans for v&c this expac i guess this is probably hinting at a corvos expansion

[visual geyser]

I want it

Looks awesome

[shy obsidian]

Imagine if they just. Shadowdrop Exquisite Bygone Brass weapons next patch

[visual geyser]

Even tho garleans took it over

[tulip wraith]

wait they did add it

[visual geyser]

Stop coping

[tulip wraith]

awesome

[trim frost]

which lowkey should've been dawntrail but no we needed """krile expansion"""

[visual geyser]

Bad rewards

[trim frost]

oh right yeah you get paste

i already finished my paste so i totally forgot

[visual geyser]

I mean we will be having another krile expansion in 8.0

[trim frost]

the krile expansion was 7.4

[visual geyser]

She’s still gonna be relevant

The speaker thing gonna be her role

[loud nymph]

this is like the one good thing about it haha

[tulip wraith]

what a great shot, i can see everything so clearly

[remote gate]

wuk lamut ate her screen time she was hungry

[remote gate]

holy shit persona 4 x ffxiv confirmed?????

[loud nymph]

fog sharlayan

old foglayan?

[alpine plover]

farlyan

[tulip wraith]

work in one hour, life is so cruel

[loud nymph]

work is da poop

[visual geyser]

The esters come from the 2nd difficulty or the last?

[tulip wraith]

truth

[trim frost]

both if you’re referring to merchant’s tale

[finite plank]

is this silent hill

[tulip wraith]

wait lesbians

this is so awesome

dungeon unlocked

[zealous meteor]

[tulip wraith]

time to get ready for my j*b

[zealous meteor]

omg

[zealous meteor]

your job is astrologian right

[rain geode]

Sleep or farm outfit hmm

[tulip wraith]

i wish it was just that 😔

[dapper zealot]

yes

[daring pine]

side eye of doom @tulip wraith

[novel garden]

I just left mine but I'm debating on going to work out before sleep or just go sleep

[tulip wraith]

omg the best emote

[sleek moon]

that magic lamp boss left me

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[visual geyser]

Genius design

You get ester from advanced

But the npc doesn’t show up unless you cleared aloalo

[random needle]

I'm still waiting to do Aloalo until mogtomes opens, because I'm like 80% confident that's gonna be the ultimog challenge

In the meantime though, I should do the new one... And I still have to clean up the other two

[jolly flume]

damn they really just took the weapon set from alo and said here this is your reward

lmao

[visual geyser]

1.5x rewards and they just kept criterion the exact same

Hate this dev team holy

[devout wraith]

In criterion, is there an enrage timer and do you have to do it all in one go like in savage?

Or is there checkpoint after each bosses? And no enrage timer?

[rapid whale]

check point per boss, does have enrage

[devout wraith]

The bosses individually have enrage but there's no overall enrage I guess?

[sleek moon]

old criterion savage design is dead dead

[devout wraith]

Makes sense because there's checkpoint

Rip savage

[rapid whale]

i mean instance timer i guess

[molten moon]

How do you get the secret path

[sleek moon]

its a secret

[devout wraith]

How hard is variant advanced?

[rapid whale]

an expert roulette /s

[devout wraith]

What content is it comparable to?

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/secret-its-a-secret-simpsons-lenny-gif-20656799

[valid solar]

I did a run of variant, do I need to do all the routes to unlocked advanced ?

[rapid whale]

idk

[valid solar]

oh I thought you already had it unlocked

[boreal pumice]

you have to beat all 3 unique bosses

Complete the sidequest "A Spellbinding Read."
Defeat three unique bosses at the end of different routes in the variant dungeon The Merchant's Tale.

[rapid whale]

ive been clip monkeying for a friend

so ihavent been playing

[thin fox]

very easy ex level

there's no enrage

can rezbot through everything

mermaid is super super easy

swordmaster is more finnicky it requires some coordination

haven't tried the other one

[clear plume]

I’m playing with a tank that I swear is what Wuk lamat haters think she is

[stray forge]

What’s a clip monkey

[rapid whale]

i watch streamers while they pull to find solutions for the mechanics

[clear plume]

9th mandy

[grand mesa]

?

What is this supposed to mean

[clear plume]

very confident, not capable.

[grand mesa]

I mean

That's just a lot of people in pf atp

[clear plume]

this isnt pf this is my friend saying theyre good for a criterion static to clear this

[jolly flume]

[grand mesa]

Well, they're still part of pf

surely

[rain geode]

me af

[worn bluff]

why wuk lamat tho

very confident, not capable could describe magnai

bonus because malera warrior

[rain geode]

I was going to say Wuk always felt like one of the more competent tag alongs the story has had

[stray forge]

Magnai bronzebeard

[jolly flume]

dude lowkey there is nothing the one piece could be that would be satisfying after getting edged for like 30 years

the real life cure to cancer wouldn't be enough

[vestal hollow]

THE WOONS

OF AZEROTH

[zealous meteor]

its the power of friendship

[vestal hollow]

NEED TO BE HEALED

CHAMPION

HEAL THE WOONS

HEAL THEM NOW

[visual geyser]

Cap ngl

Considering the manga has been nonstop banger after banger for 3 arcs straight lol

[stray forge]

You

You said a certain bike was spoilers for 8.0

Which I then told my friends

Then they told me I was stupid and that the bike was already in the game

😭

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/cloud-strife-cloud-final-fantasy-vii-final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-bike-gif-18190129

[visual geyser]

Tell them he’s stupid because he has multiple bikes lol

[low hearth]

Bro do you actually have to clear AAI just to use the Ester

[visual geyser]

It’s the advent children one not the one he used to leave shinra tower

[visual geyser]

Yes

[rapid whale]

if my grandmother had wheels she would be a bike

[low hearth]

This might be the worst game of all time

[visual geyser]

Yes true

[loud nymph]

it's still hilarious that you have to do content on a job other than BLU to unlock the BLU exquisite weapon

[remote gate]

wyd if the one piece isnt real

[loud nymph]

it was hilarious back when aloalo was added, but it's still hilarious now too

[low hearth]

Fan fest reward 🤔

[stray forge]

Bro absolutely just hid nudes of Robin in that bottle

[thin tartan]

i hope oda goes broke

[boreal pumice]

fenrir being AC bike , og bike being a harley

[worn bluff]

the piece of paper just says 67

[visual geyser]

One piece outsold all of Superman comics recently

I can’t even say the word for Oda without getting smoked

[stray forge]

I hope one piece ends so I never have to hear about it again

[visual geyser]

main

[boreal pumice]

anime never goes away look at dragon ball still talked about to this day

[visual geyser]

They’ll just keep remastering arcs lol

Like dragon ball

[stray forge]

Aren’t those still coming out

[boreal pumice]

think its the galatic patrol arc thats coming out

[visual geyser]

Ye they are adapting the manga and remastering the same movie for the 3rd time

[stray forge]

I swear people have talked about new episodes or something

[boreal pumice]

far as i know there are 3 manga arcs they havent been anime yet , galatic patrol , moro and the granola arc

[visual geyser]

Yep

I’m pretty sure the manga have ownership issues that caused issues

[loud nymph]

I hope when it ends I never have to see its ugly ass art style ever again

but sadly I know that won't happen

[sly basin]

do u guys think hxh will ever finish

[visual geyser]

Realistically not really

He has some crippling back issues poor dud

[dull drum]

at least we have the moro arc in 2030

[worn bluff]

man all of yshtola's sisters are more interesting than her

[visual geyser]

Real

Where does the magic carpet mount come from

I heard it’s not even the 12 path reward lol

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/tokai-teio-umamusume-uma-67-six-seven-gif-8590503484787777614

[jolly flume]

ymhitra is cuter too

[worn bluff]

why did we get the boring one

[valid solar]

does anyone know where you get the gaius hair

is that from the advanced version ?

[loud nymph]

yes

[grand mesa]

I convinced someone to avoid spellspeed healer bis today

Did a good deed

[visual geyser]

Magic carpet is from advanced?

[lyric summit]

kind of crazy how much easier advanced is with 2 people than 3

and prob even more easier than 4

also no enrage very cool and recoverable

[wind cypress]

yeah I tried astro with spell speed, don't recommend - yes dps is good but if you have to rez like 1 person you're done on mana expendature for the whole raid

[dull drum]

can i get a tldr on criterion

are we so back or so over

[lyric summit]

we are back where we started

[wind cypress]

icey veins is like, hey healer opens coat you try any of this here .. spell speed gear, it's BIS! 🤡

[lyric summit]

no rewards, but advanced is a way more fun and approachable 3rd difficulty for the content than criterion savage was

so midcore players won if they even exist

[wind cypress]

but what about midcore with savage rewards?

[lyric summit]

you can get aloalo savage shiny weapon with advanced which is low-midcore diff

[jolly flume]

criterion normal was also fun and approachable and still nobody did it

[lyric summit]

like, thanks, i guess, because no one was doing aloalo savage, but L for the people who did it for weapons, and also L that its reused content instead of new weapons

[jolly flume]

so I dont think those people care if they won frankly

[lyric summit]

i did it

[jolly flume]

so did I lol

[dull drum]

the funny part is the ester cant even be used unless you finished the original content

[lyric summit]

feel like they're gonna patch that

[jolly flume]

but all removing crit savage did was kill a mode that some people liked and that people who didn't had no reason to care about given that there was essentially no reward for it

[lyric summit]

but also don't because normal aloalo is the best crit

[vast jacinth]

Wait did they change the old criterions too?

Or did i misread the convo rn

[lyric summit]

remove content that 1000 people did to add content that is required to complete for unlocking content that 10 000 people want to do

number goes up

[dull drum]

nah they just added alolo rewards to the newest criterion

which is lazy

[vast jacinth]

Oh

[dull drum]

they’re an indie company makes sense for them to be lazy (dont hurt me i support indies heavily)

[vast jacinth]

So i guess i need todo aloalo savage to get the nice accesories from new criterion advanced dungeon

[lyric summit]

also theyre really going out on "break glass in case of emergency" with the minion and mount added this patch, which are likely preorder rewards

cause it looks like it's gonna be a final fantasy ||..7|| themed expansion

[jolly flume]

does anyone actually gaf about advanced

idk I haven't even looked at it but like

why would you bother

[jolly flume]

also I just looked more into the stats and lol less people cleared aloalo criterion (not savage) than top

and that was the criterion that actually had rewards

[wind cypress]

what do you get for advanced?

[lyric summit]

cause you need to clear it to unlock criterion

[jolly flume]

yeah but I'm saying the premise of needing to clear it to unlock criterion is unnecessary and stupid from a development standpoint and that shouldn't even be a thing

if they wanted to save effort they could've just cut criterion savage and not put anything in between bc wtf is the point

[lyric summit]

I really like that it scales to 2-4 people properly

not like cat

[jolly flume]

properly is a strong word given what I've heard about the relative difficulty according to group size

[lyric summit]

car

[jolly flume]

but that's all hearsay so I'll try it for myself tonight I guess

[wind cypress]

so solo would be like a bozja duel?

[visual geyser]

You don’t need to do savage

[jade nimbus]

btw is the new criterion version like the older ones with no ress?

[visual geyser]

It’s just basic alo alo you have to do

[vast jacinth]

Ohhh

Bruh

[visual geyser]

It has res

1 res

The basic criterion aloalo you have to do

Not saved

God

This fucking naming scheme

[clear plume]

theyre gonna be the fanfest mount

[jolly flume]

the format is the same as the old criterion normals in terms of rez restrictions

[visual geyser]

HOW DO I GET THE FUCKING CARPET

[boreal pumice]

try giving the genie lamp a rub

[visual geyser]

Give me a rub bitch

😡 😡 😡

[boreal pumice]

i see why your cancelled

[jolly flume]

? please refrain from requesting handjobs in endgame lounge

[dull drum]

um no minimodding

[visual geyser]

Back rub smh

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[visual geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[sinful brook]

Rub?

No

[lyric summit]

crit savage was just lazy design trying to pad replayability from the same content

[visual geyser]

I mean

Advanced isn’t that much better is it

I haven’t done it yet

How good even is the variant exp

Why is this content so fucking weird man

[lyric summit]

like I'm not gonna say I'm glad it's gone cause it should still exist as an achievement that checks for completion time and number of rezzes, but advanced is ultimately just more different content than the same thing twice but don't die and dps check

[jolly flume]

I don't disagree that it's lazy design but lazy design can be fun considering the abject lack of challenging content they put out on a regular basis

or content in general to be honest

[visual geyser]

Yoshi p kept crying that they were listening just to make rewards worse

[vestal hollow]

playing wow i think its just fascinating how little the xiv devs have learned from the game and taken notes from it for content

[jolly flume]

one piece of endgame content every five and a half months with one patch being ten months of waiting is slow asf

[vestal hollow]

the expansion has barely even started and i have a fuckton of daily and weekly activities to do before raids even COME OUT

[jolly flume]

and even if criterion savage was just pumping the numbers up on crit normal and removing raises

it was a fun challenge to push

it can't possibly have taken that much effort to make either

[visual geyser]

Should’ve just been an achievement to do it with no deaths

Devs r so lazy

Gonna shutdown this server for negativity

💔

[vestal hollow]

i maintain that xiv's greatest sin is its absolutely terrible zone design and the fact that you are not rewarded for exploration at all, and there is literally nothing to do there in terms of endgame activities

[loud nymph]

it's wild tbh

[jolly flume]

the xiv overworld is depressing

[kind elm]

then whats the fucking point of the lounge?

[visual geyser]

Where. Do. I get the carpet 😡

[loud nymph]

prey, world quests and the weekly objectives all combining into one feedback loop that motivate you to go out into the world and do stuff in each zone

[jolly flume]

discussion of meowing and grippy socks.

[vestal hollow]

in midnight right now we've got:

• delves
• prey
• world quests
• soiree
• abundance
• legends of the haranir
• world pvp zone

[vestal hollow]

prey is so fucking good dude i love it

[jolly flume]

ffxiv needs unrestricted open world pvp ngl

[vestal hollow]

i wish the glam looked better though

[jolly flume]

let me fuck up the random white mage sprout I see

[stray forge]

OPEN WORLD PVP IN FFXIV

[loud nymph]

my only complaint so far is it doesn't seem to be linked into delves at all

[quick verge]

its crazy how square enix is run by actual human beings and they haven't taken inspiration from real life for their content

[loud nymph]

it would be great if it did

[quick verge]

chiyo and moriie can attest to the fact that you can fight random homeless people irl and get meaningful rewards

[vestal hollow]

yeah thats fair but we'll see. it might be cool if they add a system that prey targets can take over delves in their respective zones

like liches in warframe

[loud nymph]

especially for that inevitable situation where you're trying to decide which bountiful delve to do

[kind elm]

no but guys see there being no content in 14 is part of the design, the devs actually want you to spend time outside the game and give you time to play other games its actually a good thing (dont think about it too much)

[vestal hollow]

im also itching for the other two delves to unlock

[loud nymph]

"oh, this one in my prey zone is bountiful, I could do that and work on both"

[vestal hollow]

the lack of completion is annoying

[jolly flume]

warband in xiv when

[vestal hollow]

warband system is so good

[jolly flume]

when will I stop having to ask friends to transfer stuff to my alt

when

[stray forge]

I got screamed at and had a cig butt flicked at me by a homeless person while half naked and alone on a train going to a rave at midnight once

[jolly flume]

that was me

[stray forge]

that was fun

[quick verge]

see

side quests

[zealous meteor]

12.0

[quick verge]

with rewards

[zealous meteor]

please look forward to it

[vestal hollow]

my big complaint rn is that abundance is bugged and they still havent fixed it fully

i cant even do the activity right now

[stray forge]

the trick is to not make eye contact

:))

[kind elm]

im itching to log onto wow and just spend an hour editing my hud

[thin tartan]

10 milly

[vestal hollow]

i can send you ss of mine pookie

[kind elm]

ya i liked urs send for inspo pls :3

[stray forge]

omfg grooving green dropped

[worldly grotto]

FFXIV fans when I complain that I want more stuff to do in the game

https://klipy.com/gifs/jesus-mcride

[loud nymph]

The only zone wide weekly thing I was able to actually get done was the haven/runestone defense bit

[vestal hollow]

soiree is doable too

i think

[loud nymph]

That's

The same thing, isn't it?

[vestal hollow]

is it

oh

i did the keep defense thing in voidstorm too

[loud nymph]

I tried to do that last night

but timer was stuck at 0:00

[vestal hollow]

im estrogenuinely thinking about doing world pvp in slayer's rise

[vestal hollow]

you have to wait a while for some reason

took like 10 minutes to actually start

[loud nymph]

I did, there was a sidequest chain in that area I knocked out while waiting

[vestal hollow]

weirdchamp

[loud nymph]

but the thing still never started

it was odd

[vestal hollow]

also there are rare elites of the opposite faction that wander around slayer's rise

[loud nymph]

abundance obviously has been bugged since the start of early access

[vestal hollow]

i got killed by one of them

[loud nymph]

and then you have the haranir thing that was pointing to a completely empty area of the den in harandar

[valid solar]

reading all this wow talk and I've only understood like 5 sentences in the last 10 minutes

[loud nymph]

so idk what's going on there

[vestal hollow]

okay glad im not insane there

its probably hidden somewhere stupid

hmm maybe it will work with weekly reset

the abundance thing is annoying though i wasted a shard

[loud nymph]

That was my thought

[vestal hollow]

ALSO

THEY FIXED THE ARCANTINA BEING A SILVERMOON TELEPORT

[loud nymph]

Either disabled until early access ended or disabled until reset

[vestal hollow]

which is BULLSHIT

[loud nymph]

Ha yeah

[vestal hollow]

i can get there fast as a haranir anyways lol

i just rootwalk and take the portal

[loud nymph]

I did the quest in Hellfire Peninsula last night and was like "ok time to go back to silvermoon"

and then I was right back on the path of glory

[vestal hollow]

i find it funny that haranir seem

really good for pvp

with their racial

[loud nymph]

tbh between housing teleport and hearth it's not that big of a deal to get back to silvermoon so w/e

and prey offers you a tp back when you finish your hunt

which is also sweet

[vestal hollow]

yeah i got those done right before maint

i need to get my ilvl up a bit higher for tier 4 delves

[loud nymph]

I'm at like 218ish and had no real issues in t5

Haven't done higher yet

[vestal hollow]

im not over 200 yet

lainsmile

i did all my world quests to get to 90

on my main

so i should go start leveling my enh shaman

[loud nymph]

ahhhh, I ignored the wqs after finishing the campaign so I would have them for gearing at 90

so I only had to do like half a levels worth of sidequest

[vestal hollow]

as fun as delves are i was too impatient to get my main to 90 to do them till then

[loud nymph]

fair

I'll probably start leveling my DK now

or spriest

afflock is going gangbusters haunt does so much fucking damage

[wind cypress]

they buffed reaper by a fair amount right, wonder is they compete with samurai now 🤔

[worldly grotto]

According to a friend it's a sub 1% buff

[loud nymph]

20 potency on each of your shroud GCDs is not exactly a fair amount

That's a 100 potency per enshroud buff

Very minimal

[random needle]

God I love bandaid on bullet wound buffs

[wind cypress]

yeah, they needed it though so that's good

[loud nymph]

It's not bad, but it's nowhere near what they actually need

[rain geode]

Any buffs are nice but it doesnt really change enough

[jolly flume]

the gap between rpr and the middle-upper pack of melees was about 2%

the bigger issue is just that the job isn't fun and nobody wants to play that shit ngl

[random needle]

Doesn't address the gauge negativity

Or that keeping DD rolling on two targets feels like hot ass, which is kind of a problem when m10 exists

[odd beacon]

Reaper is fun its just

[worn bluff]

i find RPR fun in dungeons that's about it

[jolly flume]

[odd beacon]

AT ITS CORE

Just that after the backlash of Endwalker there's a lot of melee downtime in Dawntrail

(not a bad thing)

[wind cypress]

so less utility than say ninja/monk and less dps?

[odd beacon]

but Reaper is ass with downtime

Harpe is not fun

[jolly flume]

utility doesn't matter

[worn bluff]

i mained RPR for a couple tiers. it was nice to be able to focus on mechanics because nothing was going on in the rotation for a while

[jolly flume]

just make the job not suck

[worldly grotto]

Massive buffs

Yuge

[odd beacon]

m10 genuinely looks ass on reaper

and i mean that genuinely

[random needle]

Reaper feels fun to mess around with in casual stuff, but the actual optimization for high end looks like such a PITA, and even with the opti you're getting mogged by other melees

[worn bluff]

it's funny that harpe breaks gluttony combo

so if you're in the middle of gluttony and have to disengage you just have to stand there and nothing

[odd beacon]

its so funny rpr was the gauge throat king

then vpr comes out and mogs it

[quick verge]

its ok just wait for north horn so you can play 2.10 rpr and pretend everything is okay

[rain geode]

Honestly my personal annoyance with RPR is it feels like it has so many buttons that just... don't need to be there.

[odd beacon]

debuff maintenance is ass

[rain geode]

Their own specific button I mean

[odd beacon]

buff maintenance is fine

[wicked delta]

I remember when this happened to me in DT launch and I wanted to holy smite Yoshi P for it

[odd beacon]

but debuff sucks because you have to go out of your way to apply it

and on reaper theres not really much thought behind it

[random needle]

And there's no way to keep the debuff rolling other than pressing 1 jank ass button

[odd beacon]

yea thats what I meant by out of your way

buff maintenance meles its baked into the rotation

[jolly flume]

its like a healer dot on a dps

what is this doing here

[random needle]

Didn't VPR have that too, then they gutted it in the first month of 7.0

[alpine plover]

I designed it. Mb

[odd beacon]

shit like Higan is fine because SAM's rotation revolves around its timer

[alpine plover]

Ill remove it in 9.0

[odd beacon]

RPR just has no thought

[worn bluff]

harvest moon is a silly ability. sure there is skill expression but your reward for it is so miniscule

[odd beacon]

at least when enshroud had an actual cooldown there was SOME thought behind it

but ever since they fixed that theres no brain

[stray forge]

this is where i press harvest moon

[odd beacon]

the only good thing about reaper is ingress is fucking sexy

[random needle]

And DRG's debuff is something that they're constantly reapplying just by doing their filler rotation, NIN's is done in bursts, etc.

It just exists on RPR and it'd be so much nicer to just excise it like the tumor it is

[jolly flume]

you can also double dot on drg which is an extra point of interactivity

deaths design is like

[random needle]

True!

[jolly flume]

lol

[wind cypress]

ninja is fun, kinda makes me sad they're burst crazy or not - like the physical version of machinist

[odd beacon]

i mean tbh

optimizng reaper cleave is kinda fun

but m10 is pretty bad with your cds i think

since theres barely any time to cleave

but yea ever since the advent of VPR

RPR is just

why

[jolly flume]

thats more a vpr problem than a rpr problem imo

vpr is just the wheelchair job of all time

[odd beacon]

well yea

[jolly flume]

its like the closest thing to those rp solo duties where your entire rotation is macrod to two buttons

that you can get in an actual job

[odd beacon]

vpr is giga wheelchair makes rpr lowk worthless to play

when u can just wheelchair

and do more work

[jolly flume]

yeah what im saying is

delete vpr

[worn bluff]

RPR gets 5s cast off in downtime: 500 potency gain at best
PCT gets 5s cast off in downtime: extra nuclear bomb

[random needle]

And if you wanna truly put the work into opti and have it mean something, start studying the blade

[odd beacon]

i miss when TOP PFs locked RPR slots

LMFAOOO

fucking comedy

[quick verge]

rpr might be horrible in top

BUT

they have crest

[odd beacon]

remember when crest healed double its current value

[quick verge]

good times

[odd beacon]

they nerfed that shit so fast

just like 20s expedient sprint

[remote gate]

how could rpr be made to not be boring as shit

[odd beacon]

problem is

its problem is debuff application has no thought behind it

but at the same time just baking it in is even more fucking boring

idk just delete it

[remote gate]

what if the debuff application was like chaotic thrust from drg

[odd beacon]

ya thats what i mean

baking it in is even more boring

[sleek moon]

alright finished variant, secret boss sucked ass

[remote gate]

where it just gets applied as part of rotation

[sleek moon]

tell me its not in criterion

[odd beacon]

may as well just remove it

[visual geyser]

Secret boss is never in criterion

[worn bluff]

i should start keeping a counter of WARs i see die to mortal slayer 1

why is it always a WAR

[quick verge]

cause war has no mit

and mortal slayer fucks ur shit

[odd beacon]

in my experience its the double tb

[amber fable]

Noxious gash is what vpr had and it was basically this snd they removed it in one week

[visual geyser]

Just remove deaths design it just makes the job worse

[odd beacon]

in act 1

they dont invuln it in jp

cuz they invuln act 3

[random needle]

I was gonna say "have a button to start DD and then it stays active if you keep uptime", but then I remembered that that's basically what Enochian and Greased Lightning used to be on BLM and MNK, so maybe we do just gut DD entirely

[dull drum]

i mean why wouldnt you invuln act 3

[amber fable]

Vpr literally had it for 1 week

[odd beacon]

ya im just saying i often see wars die to the stacked tb

[amber fable]

And they removed it

[worn bluff]

we 40% short act 1 busters and stack them it's fine

[odd beacon]

ya

i know

im just saying thats where i see it happen

😭

because WAR's 40% has nothing that helps there

its just a 40%

[amber fable]

War exist for holm

[wind cypress]

I played all 4 tanks in prog for m12s, for some reason I had the most prob with mits on dark knight rofl

[odd beacon]

pld has a shield
gnb has more hp
drk has tbn

[amber fable]

If not for holm war wouldn't exist

[sleek moon]

some reason = skillissue

[amber fable]

Drk has most mit

In tanks

[wind cypress]

yeah probably, I play it the least

[worn bluff]

i mean it's a single hit so DRK 40% isn't any stronger there

[odd beacon]

ya but drk has tbn to supplement it

[worn bluff]

i guess TBN but is WAR short mits really that much worse?

[amber fable]

Oblation

Tbn

[odd beacon]

Dark Mind too

[amber fable]

Easy live

[worn bluff]

gg

[odd beacon]

drk clears mortal slayer with oblation tbn rampart

[amber fable]

War short mit is thrill

[wind cypress]

the problem with war is when you use your group mit buff you remove all your mits right?

[amber fable]

Which gnb gets with new 40

[worn bluff]

i think my cotank doesn't have oblation or dark mind up for that

[odd beacon]

if you do that thats on you tbh

[worn bluff]

just 40% + TBN

[amber fable]

And equilibrium is just heal

Not even a mit

[jolly flume]

yes

[worn bluff]

rep should also be on that

[dull drum]

yes

[jolly flume]

tbn is an entirely separate form of mitigation from percentage based mit

[odd beacon]

its usually fine for me anw

since its reprisal'd

[amber fable]

Bloodwhetting is same as holy sheltron

Minus the regen

[jolly flume]

so it doesn't suffer for stacking with other buttons

[amber fable]

And extra mit with ramp

[jolly flume]

also it was pretty funny ngl

I placed soil one gcd late on mortal slayer 1 last night and my war just 100-0'd

[wind cypress]

why do you need more mits when you can just boost your health (war/gunbreaker)? xD

[jolly flume]

because you can do both

[quick verge]

war needs to be mouthfed buddy mit to do anything in 2026

[amber fable]

Bw with damnation should be enough

[quick verge]

and unfortunately

[amber fable]

For war in mortal

[quick verge]

those mits come from the roles with the greatest number of dumbasses

💔

[odd beacon]

do you survive stacked tbs with rampart

ive never done it

[amber fable]

Imagine needing buddy mit to live savage tb...

[dull drum]

you need rampart short and personal

[amber fable]

🥀

[dull drum]

but i live it fine

[wind cypress]

when you pop everything except 40% and still die to a purple orb..

[odd beacon]

hmm ig i prefer rampart mortal so i can use it for tbs later

[dull drum]

rampart camo hoc i sleep, i drop hol too for the pt

[random needle]

Playing WAR this tier feels like... why

[odd beacon]

sorry i meant autos

u can holm phase 2 twice

which is nice ig

[dull drum]

i have hoc aurora rep for autos

[odd beacon]

but other than that lol

[random needle]

How are you seeing p2 when you're falling over to mortal slayer

[odd beacon]

ive been playing war only since thats the only weapon i got

[wind cypress]

right before grot 2 or w/e in phase 1 the healers make bets to see how low they can let the tanks hp go before they heal them

[worn bluff]

we had that in FRU in 2025 too

[jolly flume]

if you press your mit there you wouldn't be getting low in the first place

[worn bluff]

any non-PLD can

[jolly flume]

rampart and short are free

use em

my tanks in static hardly even drop under half there then you go into pf and those mfs are at 10k hp even with me dumping an excog and fairy tether into them

[odd beacon]

owait u rite

[dull drum]

the fuck is grotesque 2

[odd beacon]

act 2

JUST CALL IT ACTS

who tf calls it grok

[quick verge]

grok

LMFAO

HAHAHA

[wind cypress]

lol

[odd beacon]

deadass i misread it as grok earlier

i was like brother???

[amber fable]

Scrotesque

[dull drum]

i just aurora reprisal hoc it if my healer complains i’ll hang them by the neck

😡😡😡

[worn bluff]

twisted dream prog

[loud nymph]

I had someone correct me the other day and with the "um actually it's cruel coil"

like what

[dull drum]

[quick verge]

explode them

with your brain

[worn bluff]

i mean cruel coil is fine

[random needle]

I go back and forth between calling it Act 2 and Glooper myself

[quick verge]

cruel coil falls under act 2

[worn bluff]

i at least know what that is

[loud nymph]

I mean the boss does cruel coil during act 2

[wind cypress]

I have to sadly press a mit/aurora for act 2 cause healers just want to dps for some reason

[loud nymph]

But it's sorta like a

"all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares" thing

[dull drum]

legit my healer told me as long as i dont drop below they dont give a shit what i use (i never do because i actually mit crazy i know)

[loud nymph]

act 2 encompasses the whole thing

[worn bluff]

that's not sad that's just what you're supposed to do

[odd beacon]

its like calling apocalypse darkest dance

ill look at you funny

[random needle]

Act 2 is the most concise for actually discussing it, but I like how evocative the name glooper is

It's looper but with gloop

[jolly flume]

apoc and darkest dance are two different things though I'd look at you funny if you said the tank was baiting apoc

[odd beacon]

ya im just saying bc cruel coil is part of act 2

[jolly flume]

what do you mean sadly its FREE

😭

[worn bluff]

if boss autos do like 1/4 of your HP unmitigated and it's doing more than 3 of them you should at least put a short mit on

[odd beacon]

just like dd is part of apoc

[jolly flume]

PRESS YOUR MIT PLEEEEEASE

[odd beacon]

but at least cruel coil is only there so ig what you mean

[random needle]

Press your mitigation in 🗣️

[odd beacon]

but theyre all literally acts just call them acts

[quick verge]

weaving decreases the lifetime of my joints

fuck you

[random needle]

In m11s

[wind cypress]

but my mits (hoards them like gold)

[jolly flume]

I'm going to decrease your lifetime to zero

[wind cypress]

I removed most of my tenacity gear, all I have left are cool downs

[odd beacon]

anyway snake has no candle to light next to my KING OF ACTS HESPEROS

[worn bluff]

if you don't want to mit just play DPS

[odd beacon]

fake ass acts

Hesperos acts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[quick verge]

hespacito was lowkey fire

[odd beacon]

Act 2

[loud nymph]

hesperos act 2 was fun

[odd beacon]

its so fun to full uptime

[wind cypress]

I had some pretty decent runs this morning clearing m9s - m11s but no ones ACT works cause it's patch day 🤣

[loud nymph]

the real problem with that fight was curtain call

or was it finale

[random needle]

Imagine if we started calling act 1, act 2, and act 3 Basic/Intermediate/Advanced Relativity

[loud nymph]

which one was the one that lasted like 2 minutes

[odd beacon]

curtain call

its an enrage sequence

[sleek moon]

im helping with #HealerStrike by making them heal more

[odd beacon]

one of the best imo

[loud nymph]

yeah ok that shit sucked mega donkey ass

[wind cypress]

seeing people flying off the edge in pf is funny though for p1

[worn bluff]

basic snek, intermediate snek, advanced snek

[quick verge]

wasnt there a curtain call strat

where you could like

tank lb and pop like

[jolly flume]

I still havent recoverd from readingm that

[quick verge]

all of them

[jolly flume]

yes

[odd beacon]

yea

[quick verge]

hilarious

[wicked delta]

Heal me, green box.

[odd beacon]

theres also the melee uptime one

where u pull it north

or smth

i forgot

[worn bluff]

i need to go farm some p4s weapons

[jolly flume]

I am going to PUT YOU IN A BOX

PHYSICAL RANGED PLAYER.

[odd beacon]

man asphodelos was fun

shame what became the rest of the raid series

[quick verge]

pinax is top 3 mechanic

what the fuck is snapshotting

[odd beacon]

real

facts

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-a-box-gif-21301591

[odd beacon]

DO YOU REMEMBER THE FUCKING MONK CLIP

[random needle]

I'm apprehensive but looking forward to doing Pandae with my old content group

[quick verge]

yes

[jolly flume]

mantra bot

[quick verge]

https://youtu.be/xEQrmyfMbLI?t=43

[random needle]

I still have no idea how much longer until we finish e12s though

[loud nymph]

hope you like gigantic hitboxes

[odd beacon]

p3s was peak

dont @ me

i never had visibility issues

[jolly flume]

pandaemonium tier list:
s: 8p1, 12p1
ok: 3, 10, 5
slop: everything else

[random needle]

I think we have a strategy cooked up for Advanced Relativity, we just have to get people to actually execute it

[quick verge]

who has that meme of whm vs ast during uh

life's agonies

[loud nymph]

I was just thinking about this clip the other day as an example of "MNK mains really are built different"

[odd beacon]

theres this one too

[jolly flume]

put the pulse of life in the bag

[odd beacon]

i mean tbh if ur seeing lifes agonies ur parse is gone

and if u see the dash after that may as well wall

[random needle]

EW just dragged WHM through broken glass huh

[dull drum]

truly the end of an era

[quick verge]

asphodelos was truly a tier

the battle over adds in p3

[dull drum]

king midas type ah greed

[jolly flume]

macrocosmos on p3s adds 🤤

[odd beacon]

he still did it in dt though

[odd beacon]

this was the strat if ur skipping lifes agonies ya

[worn bluff]

arcadian hell should have been each clone doing staggered raidwides so it becomes like terminal relativity

[dull drum]

yeah but greed was cooler in ew

[odd beacon]

only asphodelos..

[dull drum]

signed: the dt hater

[odd beacon]

nothing to greed in later tiers..

[jolly flume]

arcadian hell aint got shit on terminal

I love terminal...

[odd beacon]

boss was in your face

[sleek moon]

ngl this feels like

[quick verge]

greed was cooler before and after ew

asphodelos is an honorary shb tier

[sleek moon]

cos iirc whm was still way more played than ast

[odd beacon]

like revolutionary reign is a thing

[jolly flume]

whm is always more played than ast

wheelchair job

[odd beacon]

yea in the end its ez

[sly basin]

https://youtu.be/sjZ5I8l32CI

[quick verge]

rev is like

idk

something is wrong with the snapshot

u can walk out of that

no sprint

full uptime

[odd beacon]

DT snapshots are giga snappy

[sleek moon]

so everyone dissing whm 24/7 from the sidedlines while whm mains are just vibing

[wind cypress]

I like astro but bad groups make me look bad on parses

[dull drum]

[odd beacon]

brd players:

[quick verge]

u make urself look bad

i promise u

on everyone's soul

wallah

[jolly flume]

on the soul?

[quick verge]

ur group didnt tank ur parse

[jolly flume]

athena reference

[odd beacon]

p3s was genuinely

the only exception to this

but otherwise yea

[worn bluff]

"full uptime?" EW hitbox reference

[jolly flume]

i'm posting the graph again

week 1 last tier

[quick verge]

my fav part about the p4 clip is how the ast dies

of all people

[jolly flume]

I wish I remembered to do it for heavyweight

[sleek moon]

that's missing a time frame

is this week 1? week 20?

[stray forge]

You’re missing a time frame

[quick verge]

1

[jolly flume]

.

[stray forge]

.

[sleek moon]

oh

sorry ffxiv player here

[quick verge]

can you count to 4

[jolly flume]

xd

[random needle]

Are you able to filter the currently posted logs to just see the ones posted in w1, or

[odd beacon]

sge spike in 6 is so funny

[jolly flume]

kardia diff

[odd beacon]

more like cleave tbh

[wind cypress]

if your group size increases on astro, your raid dps increases - but on white mage it stays the same right?

[odd beacon]

art of war is consistent

so u cant really 'burst'

[sleek moon]

hows that data looking like now?

[odd beacon]

most you had was the chain strat dot