yes you are
#endgame-lounge
fierce matrix
worn bluff
this is why bungo showed us his feet
thin fox
wicked delta
Im having way more fun progging M11S than I did with M7S tbh
stray forge
weak
jolly flume
this shit is just impossible
worn bluff
just play pld
echo ibex
El tirano
round burrow
17.64% ENRAGE BABY SO CLOSE
rapid whale
glgl
rapid whale
mb
jolly flume
I was half hoping to keep this fight full orange although I knew like
probably no shot lol
rapid whale
o its cuz dbl pct so the buffs didnt count for me lmao
jolly flume
gotta microclip to make sure you overwrite his
trim frost
my stupid mouse life
trim frost
sigh
rapid whale
<a:Smoge:825136707095101441>
yea bro
wicked delta
If I do M12S I will be able to do looper perfectly
slender lichen
am i supposed to voke in the opener on m12s
grand mesa
am i supposed to voke in the opener on m12s
yes
well
might not be necessary if you get the emnity you need right away
but i could see smth like a picto ripping pretty hard
rapid whale
Yeah with a picto probably have to if you're starting with melee instead of ranged
grand mesa
not enough
grand mesa
You probably aren't going to get anyone for a 2ch here, I fear
amber fable
i would suggest taking any chest for first kill ngl
jolly flume
I would meow
grand mesa
I can't join any 2chests
stray forge
cats begone
grand mesa
Miau
Either way
You have better luck 0chesting
This week and just joining reclears after
It's not like you're pressed for time to get a weapon before ultimate hits
hidden veldt
it's fine, we managed to fill, but 2 ppl was definitely prog lying for P1 so I disbanded
grand mesa
Such is life
hidden veldt
yeah, I let 3 pulls, got true on my promise, and still got trashtalked in dm XD
turbid haven
why are the phantom weapons so god damned ugly? What are they thinking with these ārewardsā
rapid whale
aesthetics are a matter of taste
turbid haven
Majestic line up still holds up and you can get those easily now with tomes of poetics
rapid whale
then use those
loud swift
i dont think dragoon phantom weapon looks bad
jolly flume
Majestic line up still holds up and you can get those easily now with tomes of p...
I think those look ugly as shit
lol
stray forge
what the heck is majestic
grand mesa
Meowjestic meowteowrath
stray forge
rapid whale
bapple jester bapple wrath
jolly flume
meow meow purrrrr
rapid whale
C :
jolly flume
stray forge
rapid whale
u should play czn instead mori
low hearth
what is my cohealer doing bro
jolly flume
I didn't even get to do the story today
low hearth
OMG
stray forge
why the FUCK did I just fight an astronaut
jolly flume
reclears took too long
rapid whale
what is my cohealer doing bro
MB IM NEWWWWW
dull drum
take out an e and t in meteowrath
jolly flume
why the FUCK did I just fight an astronaut
he fell bruh
stray forge
u should play czn instead mori
whats czn
low hearth
dang bro just staring at the boss
jolly flume
this is what I always tell people about wuwa story though
dull drum
why the FUCK did I just fight an astronaut
welcome to wuwa
stray forge
slay the spire but gacha and booba
sorry?
jolly flume
it's all hype moments and aura but 95% of the story is like incoherent and makes no sense from a realistic storytelling perspective
jolly flume
dull drum
it's all hype moments and aura but 95% of the story is like incoherent and makes...
me pretending to understand the exostrider and laha roi crap 
jolly flume
endfield has been relatively kind to me though
dull drum
i also pretended like i knew what was happening in septimont
jolly flume
me pretending to understand the exostrider and laha roi crap <:Dentge:1229191197...
they just make shit up every patch man
stray forge
Idk I generally liked the story up until 3.0
jolly flume
septimont was honestly one of the more coherent stories
but shit like iuno's is like
complete slop
jolly flume
yeah they knew that
stray forge
Ew
jolly flume
so they didn't bother putting any effort into writing a story
dull drum
š
jolly flume
just let her feet and pits do the talking
dull drum
you know whats a fucking sin
jolly flume
bro all they are doing is casting succor
can I coheal with them
dull drum
the fact that honami is an instanced area that was part of an event only
like WHAT THE FUCK
loud swift
bro all they are doing is casting succor
what duty
jolly flume
idk what I even wanna play
i'm in my don't really feel the video game vibe phase again
14 is boring gacha is mostly boring
don't have any good singleplayer rpgs or whatever to play either
stray forge
Everythingās boring 
maybe Iāll start a new dangerous hobby
jolly flume
take up base jumping
grand mesa
vitamin d because too much indoors
Been taking stronger d supplements
It's been helping
tired egret
I have alot of games but I just concentrate my time on just ff14 and watching youtube
stray forge
Raving ruined by TikTok, games boring, but Iāll always have extreme underwater basket weaving ā¤ļø
jolly flume
i can't even find anything good to watch on youtube most days anymore
mostly I just spawn camp veritasium and sometimes military history channels
echo ibex
don't have any good singleplayer rpgs or whatever to play either
Red dead 2
tired egret
i can't even find anything good to watch on youtube most days anymore
Have some honse
tired egret
Or if you want lumbago
echo ibex
Only play rdr2 if you literally want to fall asleep
I said red dead 2 not solo leveling
stray forge
15 minutes to loot a cabinet 
stray forge
Arthur apparently
echo ibex
jolly flume
the last singleplayer I played that I didn't drop within 5 hours was cyberpunk
can orion come out already
stray forge
Play a horror game youāll be terrified instead of bored
jolly flume
that sounds more entertaining for whoever's in vc with me than it would be for me
I suck with horror
rapid whale
you should play tactics
jolly flume
scary shit irl means nothing to me because I can rationalize it but horror movies and games don't play by reality rules
stray forge
I got the silent hill remake, played 10 minutes and uninstalled because I couldnāt force myself to crawl under a garage door
grand mesa
that sounds more entertaining for whoever's in vc with me than it would be for m...
buying you re9
jolly flume
low hearth
you should play tactics
like Ramza?
rapid whale
hell yeah
clear plume
Play Skyrim with 1.5 tb of mods
rapid whale
blame yourself or god
clear plume
clear plume
(Real talk Iāve been doing a ff7r modded run and itās been fun)
grand mesa
<a:bcaScaredNo:784649325976223745>
rapid whale
is 7r good im trying not to play until the trilogy is done
stray forge
When I was a rambunctious teen I broke into and explored an abandoned mental facility at night with friends. Probs the scariest thing Iāve done in my life
clear plume
Itās good by every metric, but if you actually want a remake of 7 itās not good at being that
low hearth
is 7r good im trying not to play until the trilogy is done
yea
jolly flume
When I was a rambunctious teen I broke into and explored an abandoned mental fac...
I too have been in a subway station at 2am
clear plume
In the words of somebody i used to work with ā10/10 would not recommend to people who love the originalā
stray forge
I too have been in a subway station at 2am
rapid whale
why would you mess with bad juju
stray forge
Way spookier at night and I probably will develop mesothelioma at some point from it
š
rapid whale
bro you got haunted by the youkai watch
clear plume
Honestly psych wards stop being scary when you go to one just normally and you realize that like most people there r normal ass people tbqh that you wouldnāt glance twice at on the street
Itās like a horror game set in a courtroom like oh no
grand mesa
Main issue is how the staff treat you there
Which, depends on where you are
But I've heard stories
sleek moon
there was an era of psych wards where sane people were being held against their will
and that same era had unethical human experiments
and the horror side of abandoned psych wards come from this
grand mesa
Yeah
alpine plover
vitamin Idylic dreams
worn bluff
In the words of somebody i used to work with ā10/10 would not recommend to peopl...
ngl i donāt remember much about the original so i didnāt care about what changed
proper cave
7.45. Minor content update.
sick reef
whats the content
proper cave
Variant/Criterion and Hildy
sick reef
o sweet
amber fable
Guess no gear from criterion
spice path
We dont know full rewards yet.
wind cypress
if its like the other things, we can get a different colored parasol
grand mesa
Mildly tempted to write a guide on surviving savage pf
dull drum
Mildly tempted to write a guide on surviving savage pf
doesnt it already exist
made by joonbob
wait he deleted it wtf
grand mesa
he did not survive
dull drum
nah i found it
just general discussion on how to make guides for pf, how does pf work, how to spot potential redflags such as non locked slots etc etc.
it used to be its own video on his channel but i think he moved it to his patreon
god i still believe in his 2 mechanic rule and projected prog point formula
grand mesa
my favorite one is when i tell tanks a good mit timing so they stop eating shit
and they don't listen!!
and then continue to eat shit!!
"Hey, please press rampart early into mortal slayer cast so you can mit pre-act 2 autos"
amber fable
Mb
grand mesa
Late rampart
Eats shit
people really think I have 10000 weave windows to spare during 2mins
valid solar
>"Hey, please press rampart early into mortal slayer cast so you can mit pre-act...
Were you doing c41s
valid solar
and just prog help
can you stream
grand mesa
<:thinkernotes:973728388508450876> can you stream
oh
I wasn't doing it right now
just
grand mesa
Is rampart free to press like the whole cast?
yes
valid solar
ah gotcha
low hearth
I always pressed it at the end 
grand mesa
I'm talking about talking to people who ramp mortal slayer
and could easily have it for pre-act 2 autos
grand mesa
naur..
grand mesa
I cannot prog so I must scream.
its always weapons prog?
wicked delta
its always weapons prog?
Its always weapons progā¦
valid solar
see if I was in the party you'd be at ecliptic rn
wicked delta
Bro confident af
grand mesa
š
wicked delta
My positioning for arena split is kinda okay but I keep getting cooked by other people
grand mesa
gg
low hearth
mb
sleek moon
My positioning for arena split is kinda okay but I keep getting cooked by other ...
im being nosy and looking at your last few flatliner pulls and that sam was so lost
wicked delta
im being nosy and looking at your last few flatliner pulls and that sam was so l...
Yeah they were on some bullshit lmfao
I look over to other side and everyone exploded at once
remote gate
is weapons prog when boss pulls out axe/scythe/boardsword and goes clockwise and counterclockwise folllowd by the tornado proteans with a twister mechanic(?)
remote gate
assuming ult weapons is the twister mech?
wicked delta
Yea
remote gate
ive only watched aoe (friend) rage at m11s and from what ive seen i could not tell that the tornado proteans were a twister
wicked delta
Well id say its more a bait than twister tbh
remote gate
aoe described the snapshot as a twister but i cant see it that way
grand mesa
Its
Either
A whole party stack
Light party split
Or proteans
You just have to be standing in the right spot when it snapshots.
sleek moon
ive only watched aoe (friend) rage at m11s and from what ive seen i could not te...
at the end of tornado proteans there's no twister mechanic btw
low hearth
+1 unmend
sleek moon
if your friend was melee they were prob trying to gap close too early after protean
remote gate
thats what i thought
remote gate
caster actually
sleek moon
but casters can stand still after the tornado proteans go off
low hearth
if your friend was melee they were prob trying to gap close too early after prot...
Can you gap close once the proteans go off
sleek moon
and then the boss just aurafarms for 20s
grand mesa
M11 doesn't really have a twister mechanic
remote gate
thats what i thought
grand mesa
Unless you count moving after a puddle drop as a twister
sleek moon
Can you gap close once the proteans go off
afaik you have to wait like a second after proteans before gap closing to the boss
because my drk keeps dying to being impatient
remote gate
like the movement he used didnt look like a twister mechanic resolution and he was just standing there so i was like huh okay
low hearth
Oh I just be waiting š
grand mesa
Can you gap close once the proteans go off
Also
Be careful not to path into the tornado when you gapclose
sleek moon
whenever he tries to perfect time protean -> gapcloser he dies
grand mesa
Or ur going to murder people
low hearth
Greeding Ts and wiping the raid is evil
grand mesa
Well
Not people
Yourself
Bc you can server tick being inside the tornado and die or get a dd
sleek moon
yeah the tornados linger for a second after proteans
wicked delta
I watched my paladin and samurai kill both a rdm and our shield heal due to greed
It was funny as shit
grand mesa
I watched my paladin and samurai kill both a rdm and our shield heal due to gree...
gg
How do you kill an rdm on sam
sleek moon
i think that's the worst mechanic in the entire arcadion tier tbh, especially when the last weapon is sword and you have to go from far NE to South
grand mesa
i think that's the worst mechanic in the entire arcadion tier tbh, especially wh...
I hope you didn't use sprint
low hearth
I donāt be greeding ultimate weapons fuck that š
grand mesa
What mechanic
grand mesa
Ah
wicked delta
So I assume they killed the red mage
And so did the samurai
So they killed shield heal
grand mesa
They were being a greedy little melee
low hearth
yea if ur late asf you get a double kill š
wicked delta
Looking over and thanking the lord that aint me
wicked delta
How
grand mesa
tiny terrorist
wicked delta
š
grand mesa
The proteans are small
wicked delta
Bro literally plugged unto the servers
Yeah I thought the donut wouldāve killed him
grand mesa
Ah
valid solar
this guy playing on -5 ping
wicked delta
Personally blessed by Yoshi P
zealous meteor
lala static
omg 
wicked delta
i think that's the worst mechanic in the entire arcadion tier tbh, especially wh...
Thatās literally the only time ive been forced to pop sprint on DNC
That shit is 
low hearth
Thatās literally the only time ive been forced to pop sprint on DNC
Bro you got en avant
sleek moon
tbh if i was dnc i wouldnt trust myself to not en avant into the tornado
wicked delta
Yeah
Lol
Im not doing that shit
I use dash like once and then sprint all the way
valid solar
i think that's the worst mechanic in the entire arcadion tier tbh, especially wh...
If strats were good we'd just have the sword group that closer to the boss adjust to tyrants relative north so the far group would have less movement
But we don't do that for some reason
wicked delta
Cus trusting PF to adjust is terrorism
remote gate
what weapon is he looking at
zealous meteor
hes looking at the deep essence of the martialist you chugged just before pulling him
shadow pilot
Mmmmm
wind cypress
when you pop one on tank in bozja but the flipping white mage out dps-es you 3 to 1 because they're broken af š
wicked delta
what weapon is he looking at
Im looking at his martial mastery
stray forge
I always gapclose the tornado cleaves 2s before they go off and they still shoot in the right direction
One day Iām going to get everyone killed
low hearth
One day Iām going to get everyone killed <:GIGACAUGHT:1245756356645093389>
When are you going into m12s
sleek moon
I always gapclose the tornado cleaves 2s before they go off and they still shoot...
wonder how is my drk dying there then, do you angle it to not hit the tornado?
stray forge
Yeah I donāt hit the tornado
But also I feel like if you hit the tornado you did it too early 
Iām not sure
brisk charm
Yeah they were on some bullshit lmfao
They killed me so many times bruh š
stray forge
Iām curious now Iām gonna record it LMAO
remote gate
aoe does this trick for when the meteor mechanic happens he moves right when the snapshot for the wild charge goes off and its funny everytime
< needs to actually do content
rapid whale
It's true
rapid whale
But they're who need the cart the most
wind cypress
how does 1 person die during m11s proteans?
usually 2 people die but sometimes I see 1 person š¤
loud nymph
didn't make it to the donut in time
rapid whale
ive died because i smudged to my spot early and missed aoe heals from the previous one
loud nymph
how dare you be in position for the mechanic
rapid whale
p much
sleek moon
with aoe snapshots there are weird desyncs where one person gets hit by two but the other only gets hit by their own
wind cypress
yeah makes sense
worn bluff
one time i did a weird thing where i accidentally gap closed into axe as it went off but didn't die, just got DD
idk if i even took damage
rapid whale
might have taken dmg from inner axe but not stack and just tank priv'd iot
worn bluff
sinful brook
yeah i've done that before too
you just only get hit by the axe resolution and not the stack
wind cypress
I've died too many times to gap close -> into axe trying to get a warrior spinning in the air cannon ball move or w/e its called in last second for deeps. I'm starting to favor tanks without damaging gap closers so I don't have to rely on killing myself trying to get more dps.
jolly flume
you could just...not primal rend into axe for the same effect
gapclosing into a point blank with like the highest animation lock skill in the game not named stardiver was never going to go well
worn bluff
1 min comes up during ultimate weapons but yeah you could wait for scythe or do it at the beginning
before the weapons go off
wind cypress
yeah it comes up right on the trailing edge of him moving/using axe, so it drifts or I die - but yeah, you mean not use primal rend? o.O that like a dps loss?
jolly flume
you can't drift primal rend
it's not a cooldown
press it whenever it's not going to kill you
zealous meteor
dont you pop something and have like 30s to use it
once you use inner release you have 30s to use it yeah
then once you use primal rend you have... 20? to use primal ruination
worn bluff
idk when WAR presses inner release but is it not at the beginning of 1 min window?
rapid whale
okthen yea just using it mindlessly is 100% your fault
worn bluff
heās standing still at the beginning
normal summit
You should be fine to get primal rend off before the start of the first weapon in ultimate weapon as long as IR hasnāt drifted
loud nymph
yeah it comes up right on the trailing edge of him moving/using axe, so it drift...
just use it at literally any other time?
normal summit
Primal rend is fairly awkward to get off during ultimate weapon if youāre MT. The animation lock is often enough to make you late for scythe or sword if your GCD rolls at a bad time.
wind cypress
yeah, was running into that - noticed if I was slightly late at the beginning it would come back right as he started moving or going into axe or something š¤£ , just gotta be quick it seems
can't remember if he moves around for more than 30 seconds but do remember sometimes during the whole fight I wouldn't get a chance to use it in the 30s
valid solar
hehe i love all the new shirt mods
dull drum
im trying to read your warrior logs but how the fuck are you throwing 50-70 tomahawks per pull wtf
worn bluff
???
random needle
Buh
wicked delta
worn bluff
what logs
dull drum
jbears
was trying to find moments where they did primal rend to see if its just bad timing or whatever
worn bluff
where log
dull drum
legit i just googled on tomestone
worn bluff
is that a typo did you mean to say 5-7
dull drum
no
jolly flume
is that a typo did you mean to say 5-7
6-7
worn bluff
mods delete this andy
dull drum
still trying to find a pull where primal rend caused a death in weapons
deep gale
sly basin
wind cypress
oh yeah I moved onto paladin, I threw tomahawks cause I was sucking at uptime
now I just throw ice spells instead š¤£ when its instant or run up and smack him
sinful brook
You should be able to run up and smack him for all of the weapons
wind cypress
yeah learning experience
sinful brook
Maybe dropping a bit if it's axe or your ping is cheeks
worn bluff
i have to clip slightly if 2nd weapon in 2nd set is axe/sword because my 30s come up there
i could probably weave them while dodging out but safety gaming
wind cypress
parsing grey 20ish currently around 24k for paladin but I gotta get rid of a bunch of this tenacity gear you get from pnemonics and replace it with the raid stuff, 782, plenty of room to boost dps
and my uptime on meteors kinda sucks cause I have ptsd from taking meteor baits from dps early in progs xD
sinful brook
Uptime will make a larger difference than gear rn if you're grey tbh
Not that gear won't matter but
worn bluff
meteors is during 1 min so you can use a bunch of the ranged combo while taking tethers
dull drum
just please tell me you stopped with the max tenacity build man
worn bluff
next time i would just use the stat priority recommended by the balance
shy obsidian
look at this specimen
tired egret
Small
wind cypress
yes, no max tenacity build š¤£ , most I'll go is crit -> ten to get a safe build for prog maybe and keep and dps set for clears
tired egret
Small small small small small
jolly flume
I am thanks to you gaia.
wind cypress
I don't like to be a squishy tank but sometimes the dps is necessary to clear savage
sinful brook
You aren't squishy tho
As a tank
You literally get more defensive stats and inherent damage reduction
I can assure you your build isn't why you're dying
wind cypress
when I had 3k tenacity I could just eat meteors no cool downs needed, same with some tank busters in m10s, now I have to push buttons
which is better xD
sinful brook
You should have been pushing those buttons in the first place
wind cypress
yeah
sinful brook
What are you saving them for? The ult?
wind cypress
the fights are made so you don't need ten to clear them so notmuch point in it
that's what I've learned this tier
dull drum
when I had 3k tenacity I could just eat meteors no cool downs needed, same with ...
you always were supposed to hit cds for those???
sleek moon
that applies to every fight ever too, they are balanced around your cooldowns
sinful brook
Glad you learned something I suppose
sleek moon
not tenacity
stray forge
rip
wind cypress
they don't make tank busters that'll smash someone without ten so, yeah may as well go all dps
stray forge
i thought tenacity was useless
dull drum
i mean it basically is
stray forge
dull drum
the week 1 prog set has one materia of it just purely to hit a stat wall, forgot if the final set does (probably)
wind cypress
at 3700 its 23% passive mit vs 0 ten, but you'll be going from 26k dps to 25k dps essentially
or worse, maybe 24k
not to mention you are healed easier which doesn't matter cause healers can like smash your hp to full in 3 seconds
fierce matrix
this maybe was a thing back in early HW where it was helpful
but the game has been solely focused around your mits and invulns for years
tenacity just means you dont have to press your buttons but in a game where your GCD is 2.5s for all your tanks you probably want to have more buttons to press than less
wind cypress
yeah, I kitchen sink at the beginning of m12s, don't want to pop to purple asplosions xD
fierce matrix
what are you using on the buster afterwards then?
wind cypress
invuln?
fierce matrix
wtf
wind cypress
I mean, that's how all the pfs have been doing it lately?
run opposite of everyone pop inuln
jolly flume
90s+short on slayer 40 short on act 1 buster
fierce matrix
I use 40% + camo (or whatever extra 90s I have) + spam and I survive just fine
jolly flume
rampart short act 2 autos
fierce matrix
or you can use rampart
I switch it up
the buster afterwards does literally no damage if you stack it on each other
jolly flume
invuln act 3 buster is the safest way you can do it
proven pivot
Is there a website that shows parties that are up on pf. Like if ur offline and wanna check
fierce matrix
yep
stray forge
W-wampart
jolly flume
theres a discord bot that does that
fierce matrix
because you can just take the line busters and the spread aoe
jolly flume
idk if its on a website anywhere
proven pivot
I wanted to see if there are any uwu parties on light. I kind of think uwu weapons are fugly but i think itās best i start with uwu
fierce matrix
I think my mit week 1 was this:
Mortal Slayer 1: Rampart + 90s + Spam
Act 1 Buster: 40% + Spam
Act 3 Buster: Invuln for buster and spread
Mortal Slayer 2: Kitchen Sink
You can then get rampart during the pre-act 2 autos like Chiyo said
jolly flume
fierce matrix
im gonna slap you
wind cypress
hm yeah that's probably better
wind cypress
I've only reached curtain so far, been slacking since m11s fe wweeks ago
795 wep sounds tasty though
jolly flume
I get my fourth weapon next week but do I want it to be a wh*te mage weapon or a tank waepon
random needle
Spam on the table at home (ham and pork)
Think about nutrition, better read the label
Spam in my office at work (it's the best)
Really makes a darn good sandwich any way you slice it at all
stray forge
Nitrosamines moment
fierce matrix
I looked it up, Visceral Burst does less damage than Hardcore 
dull drum
most pf people invuln act 1 lol
and then i see them die during act 3 busters because of late puddles
fierce matrix
Its crazy thats what its turned to
its just 10x safer to invuln the line buster lmao
proven pivot
Was doing m10s earlier and the SMN kept using searing light way way too early and they had no melds, when ppl brought it up to them they just said āahahaāā¦
dull drum
either works yeah
proven pivot
Party leader disbanded the whole thing instead of kicking them out, andā¦ i understand
dull drum
i still go middle but if i end up being clipped doesnt matter cause invuln
fierce matrix
PF I move
terse zodiac
ahaha
fierce matrix
but yeah it doesn't matter
people probably started invulning it cause they got scared stacking two busters
when 40% + spam will keep you like above half health lol
dull drum
theres actually a small gap on one of the patterns where you only take one buster if that matters but like uptime
fierce matrix
you can also gapclose at the right time
and only take one
ive done it multiple times
dull drum
but yeah wont matter with sufficient mit
since everyones topped off for the fixer anyway
fierce matrix
you can use rampart + spam and still survive it week 1
you dont need much mit at all
dull drum
fierce matrix
also not including external mit like kera/soil for the stack or rep/feint/addle
which should be put on to catch both the buster/stack and the fixer cast
terse zodiac
timing of stack is super toxic to addle on blm
either have to waste a triplecast in opener or clip to get it out early enough to use
jolly flume
I just dont bother soiling the stack lol I have too many fucking weaves there already and it does no damage
you get it for fixer take it or leave it
terse zodiac
damn i really need to press my mitigation in m11s
jolly flume
don't let watashia catch you
terse zodiac
funny thing is i addle the places he says to
craggy marsh
Do you think Watashia yells at their mom for forgetting to make dinner on time
dull drum
probably
terse zodiac
How do people generally quickly make a general mit plan and know what things can be mit? It takes forever to scrub through uploaded logs but im not entirely familiar with it
I just wing it every tier but feels bad sometimes
wind cypress
hard to tell too if people aren't consistently using damage reduction debuffs too
jolly flume
first look for places where your mit is especially applicable, like if you're a rdm or something and there's a huge downtime raidwide 9 times out of 10 you'll want to barrier it because targeted mit doesn't work and that reduces your options
after that look for free usages between those places
as for knowing what can be target mit or not I just check the log after a pull lol
terse zodiac
For finding places in between specifically do you like look at the timeline?
jolly flume
xiva has a module for finding extra usages of cds but failing that you can just read a timeline and figure it out yourself yeah
terse zodiac
Example like i mit idyllic and idyllic/enrage 1/2 depending on damage
Theres 1 free use in the middle i think?
Is there an easy way to find where to throw it in there without timelining and spending ton of time
grand mesa
How do people generally quickly make a general mit plan and know what things can...
You start with mitigating the shit that kills you outright and you figure it out from there
jolly flume
if you addle idyllic cast and arcadian hell there's 100% a free usage in the middle somewhere
idyllic to the second idyllic cast there isn't I think
but I don't have a 90s cd to track that with
actually I do that's a lie
dull drum
is it vanilla
terse zodiac
Its 3:30 between the two so it should have 1 extra
dull drum
stray forge
How about I addle your face
jolly flume
hm
terse zodiac
ig i just need to learn how to read through logs faster
jolly flume
yeah you can for sure do that because my deploy is back
I don't think they actually do anything though
jolly flume
none of my logs have target mit present on anything from rep 2 or idyllic clones besides like
the boss proteans
terse zodiac
might be possible to hit meteor
grand mesa
Wouldn't you have to be addling aflame instead
worn bluff
damn i really need to press my mitigation in m11s
my mit plan is nonexistent in m10, i have kind of bad hps there
jolly flume
man I love scholar.
grand mesa
not impossible but that timing is something lol
Yeah
I
Would not bother trying to time that
terse zodiac
yeah lol 1 gcd leeway isnt worth potentially missing
terse zodiac
what on earth is cosmic kiss
jolly flume
tower soak
grand mesa
If ur addling in places that make sense and ur not losing too many uses ur probably doing fine
terse zodiac
ah
worn bluff
none of my logs have target mit present on anything from rep 2 or idyllic clones...
oā¦. i rep right before the boss jumps in rep 2 because my 1 min comes after that. it lasts through the stacks but didnāt know if it actually did anything
terse zodiac
Blm hps is just inflated by spamming mana ward off cd
thats fair yeah i always just save mine in case of emergency bc pf is full of them
or when theres obvious use like defam during idyllic
grand mesa
All my mit on ast is party mit, so I never had to worry about this
Yeah, fair
I wouldn't worry about it then
You can try addling the stack/spreads and see if it does anything, but I'm not sure if the boss actor is the same one in charge of those
worn bluff
i never know how to rep the end of arena split divers dares so if blue is on my side i do it and pray the other tank saved theirs for insane air 2
terse zodiac
it looks like only thing you can mit is meteor, arcanum, towers, and autos from log i'm looking at
jolly flume
that's funny it caught on this one
other logs it doesn't show even though the timing was correct for it to catch
idk man
grand mesa
Interesting
terse zodiac
what even is a lindschrat
jolly flume
theyre the boss clones
but only some of them
which is weird
seems like the ones that cast the light vuln partner stack in rep 1 are schrats while the ones that cast the dark spreads are wurms
grand mesa
She lindschratt my lindwurm till I
jolly flume
mana burst
terse zodiac
nightmare demon is an apt description i suppose
stray forge
rapid whale
Example like i mit idyllic and idyllic/enrage 1/2 depending on damage
iirc the near/far during shapes is better do addle cuz you also get the arcadion hell, which then lets you addle the meteor in the middle of idyllic
and then the idyllic cast at the end of it
tulip anvil
gimme
rapid whale
instead of just initial/last idyllic cast
terse zodiac
yeah it definitely would be a more efficient use to hit the stack and arcadion hell which hits harder(?) but ive died way more to lack of mit on idyllic
low hearth
š
terse zodiac
so i just moved it there
rapid whale
wack
worn bluff
that's funny it caught on this one
seems like rep works on rep 2 stuff
low hearth
Never let the opps win
rapid whale
i have tempera for idyllic initial cast
low hearth
Yo
stray forge
wind cypress
I like scholar a lot but man I suck at dpsing on a healer š¤£ , when health isn't topped up and shielded my eye starts twitching, maybe my old mmorpg experience
grand mesa
yeah it definitely would be a more efficient use to hit the stack and arcadion h...
Weird
I've had more issue with Arcadia than I have had with idyllic
But I also hand out mits for the squishies and use CU there so ig I'd have less mishaps
jolly flume
idyllic cast is like impossible to die to w scholar
sage probably a lot less impossible
well, providing theyre actually shielding
terse zodiac
probably a situation of i was late in progging so people mit arcadia more by default so they have nothing on idyllic
grand mesa
Perhaps
worn bluff
the other day a caster was out of my wings for end of idyllic cast and they almost died
like 20k hp left
terse zodiac
looks like they both do 300k unmitigated
wind cypress
that's spicy
jolly flume
yeah I recall 350 vs 300 from w1
terse zodiac
oh yeah you're right, why does the prepares have different damage numbers 
jolly flume
give or take
the prepares line just lies
idk how it's calculated but it's almost always wrong
I don't think it factors in shields correctly
terse zodiac
p2 is fun thats reason enough
grand mesa
nya
jolly flume
grand mesa
p2 is fun thats reason enough
That is true
I might have released a few terrorists into m12 reclear pf this tier
whoops
jolly flume
oopsie
rain geode
Cat is unamused
terse zodiac
i been watching rinon's pf series and i am so glad i am not on EU
because almost everyone he's clearing is a terrorist
terse zodiac
lmao
rain geode
TBH ive never seen a pf clear that didnt unleash at least 4 terrorists into reclears
vast jacinth
because almost everyone he's clearing is a terrorist
mbb / s
terse zodiac
i like doing c41 but when i see someone obviously lost and trolling i lose all motivation to help
worn bluff
I feel the urge to join an m12p2 prog party for some reason
the main reason i don't is because i'd rather join a clear party to be able to see the whole fight
but also idk if i want to sit there for a whole lockout
grand mesa
the main reason i don't is because i'd rather join a clear party to be able to s...
Fair
I usually only join idyllic progs
But half of them don't even see the mechanic these days
It's strange
vast jacinth
ive been waiting in pf for like 3 hours today
worn bluff
one time we were helping a couple friends prog p2 fresh, and there were 2 randoms too. and we were trying to also help the randoms by explaining how rep 1 works and they weren't getting it
it was not fun
vast jacinth
i just wanna prog p2 man
worn bluff
like 30 mins of the 2 randoms not understanding any of the explanations
grand mesa
š
dull drum
because almost everyone he's clearing is a terrorist
do you want the truth
most people we're clearing atp can be labelled as terrorists regardless of region
grand mesa
like 30 mins of the 2 randoms not understanding any of the explanations
Some people just aren't ready for savage I think
terse zodiac
you not wrong
worn bluff
- be content creator known for malding at PF terrorists
- release more PF terrorists into reclear parties
- join said reclear parties for more content
jolly flume
infinite content loop
rain geode
Some people in my FC got in a fight with me because I said you should probably be able to manage 90% uptime more often then not before going into savage lel
rapid whale
gg now you're the elitist
zealous meteor
1. be content creator known for malding at PF terrorists
2. release more PF terr...
isn't he only counting first clears
so the reclear parties don't provide content
rain geode
If I was an elitist I would say 98 lmao
grand mesa
If I walk into savage and my prange is doing less than 97% uptime in a later floor I'm leaving
stray forge
here comes like 4 people to say "mb"
jolly flume
90 is already pretty awful
terse zodiac
i never understand how people say thats elitist and get mad if you say most people should take the difficulty spectrum 1 step at a time
worn bluff
isn't he only counting first clears
so the reclear parties don't provide content
content is what you make of it
rapid whale
here comes like 4 people to say "mb"
mb
rain geode
90 is already pretty awful
you generally should be higher for sure but you have to give people some room to start
terse zodiac
like can you hop into ultimate before any other endgame and succeed by bashing your head against a wall and learning there? sure? it's just not a good move for most people
grand mesa
I did extremes before I did savage
rain geode
I did unreals and then extremes and now savage
terse zodiac
its not elitism at all its just take things 1 step at a time
worn bluff
i think it's more of a habit thing. if you're a sprout melee at least learn to keep your melee rolling with ranged gcds, and then work towards turning more of them into melee gcds
jolly flume
I don't ever discourage people from jumping straight into ultimate because I did the same but I warn them that it's probably going to take a lot more active learning on their end for them to succeed
and I've only seen one person actually manage to do it out of like probably double digit people I've told that to
worn bluff
although with gauge jobs i've seen people do anything they can do avoid having to use ranged gcd. like GNBs
rain geode
I come from runescape where you kinda just do whatever you want in whatever order so Id never say 100% dont do ultimates in XIV but I wouldnt recommend them first
grand mesa
although with gauge jobs i've seen people do anything they can do avoid having t...
Including losing an entire gcd
worn bluff
take a clip and gap close, risk entire wipe because fuck lightning shot
terse zodiac
if you know they dont keep 90% uptime you should absolutely discourage them from trolling in current endgame until they can improve
could they do m9s? yes
but they will struggle doing the rest and not realize they're not playing well
jolly flume
I genuinely dont know how to teach people with terrible uptime to not have terrible uptime
like you just have to press the button
grand mesa
You'd assume the concept of gcd roll would be easy to grasp
rapid whale
idk in general imho lowkey the thing about learning to raid in an ulti isnt the fact it might suck for you but like
rapid whale
its gonna suck for whatever group gets you
since they are there to learn the fight but you're there learning your basic rotation
worn bluff
you see it a lot on stuff like weapons. some people don't even realize they stopped hitting buttons
rapid whale
ive had deep dsr parties like p5+ where someone joins for fun and didnt realize what the etiquette behind pf naming conventions were
they just unlocked the fight, saw a party up, joined
and itsl ike
rain geode
It does make me glad most of the bossing content in OSRS has solo options its nice to not be trolled lel
worn bluff
like they see axe is next and they stop until after the axe goes off to go in. that's like 2 GCDs lost
low hearth
Yo @jolly flume is paladin really grief in top?
jolly flume
even that I get because like your instinct is dont go in the aoe
but at least press the ranged button
low hearth
It just forces healers to have to mit the p5 busters?
jolly flume
I mean if you kill fast yeah but like who cares if they have to throw you something for the busters
low hearth
oh
jolly flume
boo hoo 310 potency
terse zodiac
for low 90s it could be simple fixes like weaving issues and a few canceled casts
worn bluff
Any non-PLD may invuln this.
grand mesa
gg
rain geode
in my experience 94-98 has almost entirely been dealing with canceled casts
stray forge
I'll cancel your cast
worn bluff
even that meme idyllic raidplan was shitting on PLDs
rapid whale
oh yeah? well i'll cast your cancel
worn bluff
grand mesa
even that meme idyllic raidplan was shitting on PLDs
Whichun
shy obsidian
I'll cancel your cast
Gen Z's trying to cancel T'ew Liter?
wind cypress
I was checking tank sets for pal and came up with 3, defense, mix and raw dps , so I'd be giving up 2.93% dps going full deeps over full defense and losing 17.7% mits, or is the gear builder website inaccurate?
terse zodiac
dogshit 2 idyllic
tall ore
Pld invuln is so ass bro ;-;
low hearth
Pld invuln is so ass bro ;-;
Swap to dark knight
tall ore
This is true
terse zodiac
I was checking tank sets for pal and came up with 3, defense, mix and raw dps , ...
yeah using those numbers, is that bottom set the bis from balance or did you make it?
worn bluff
in 8.0 intervention cooldown will be reduced to 5s and hallowed will be 15 minutes
rapid whale
they should delete all invulns and make tanks actually do mechanics
tall ore
Listen I have to complain about something Iām a ffxiv player
rain geode
complain about pvp since it just sucks
rapid whale
nuh uh
tall ore
Bro please make cover not ass too thatād be great
wind cypress
I used all the raid and non skill speed pieces of highest item quality them fill them with material priority crit -> direct hit -> det -> sks -> ten, I can check the icey veins website
terse zodiac
looks like bis has 27397
wind cypress
aka all the stuff without ten
zealous meteor
just go for bis
jolly flume
you can't just strictly follow stat priority, tiering is what gets you the last bit of damage usually
well you can but you lose a bit
worn bluff
I was checking tank sets for pal and came up with 3, defense, mix and raw dps , ...
the general idea is that for basically all fights, the defense you gain is not going to make any difference to how you mitigate so just build for damage
rapid whale
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/fflogs-to-xivanalysis-aut/hcjdgcggckhhi...
do they have a firefox version
odd beacon
that's a no chief..
jolly flume
im surprised they haven't just integrated that into fflogs proper
grand mesa
gg
jolly flume
considering tomestone already has it
rapid whale
arent they the same ppl
odd beacon
yea
rapid whale
or was that tomestone/fflogs
jolly flume
xiva is a community project
jolly flume
an xivwhat button
odd beacon
xivanal
jolly flume
grand mesa
I should call him.
tall ore
Thatās how I auto fill to it
zealous meteor
tall ore
I search xivanal and get what I want
rapid whale
wonder what that would look like on social media hashtag
terse zodiac
3% damage doesn't sound like a lot but it turns a 95% parse into a 75%, or a 75% into a 40%
worn bluff
xivanal should have been the name of the new tinder app
terse zodiac
that is wild š
rapid whale
xivanal should have been the name of the new tinder app
lmao, "Will tell you all the ways you did wrong"
worn bluff
ādonāt dieā
vestal hollow
I should call him.
grand mesa
<a:ermm:1384771326203662448>
Hi.
zealous meteor
who are you calling
grand mesa
Him.
jolly flume
bkjj
worn bluff
3% damage doesn't sound like a lot but it turns a 95% parse into a 75%, or a 75%...
it can also turn a 50% into an N/A because you didnāt kill the boss
worn bluff
imagine those times you just barely killed the boss but now imagine your tanks built for 3% less DPS instead
vestal hollow
Do you have anything else to say, val?
grand mesa
I miss him
terse zodiac
low key i like tenacity because i only play tank in super casual stuff, overworld and solo maps, occult crescent chilling but in savage/ultimate it is just objectively worse
grand mesa
imagine those times you just barely killed the boss but now imagine your tanks b...
I know someone who cleared TOP on crit ten gnb
terse zodiac
8.0 making the stats more fun would be so nice but thats hard copium
rain geode
honestly I just want them to go all the way and just make stats 100% unimportant
tall ore
If they combine Crit and DH thatād be nice cause itās basically the same stat
sleek moon
If they combine Crit and DH thatād be nice cause itās basically the same stat
People losing their direct crit dopamine would lead to widespread riots
tall ore
You could rework it so that you could go over 100% crit and get the cool double crit
rain geode
I dont know if thats even true
tall ore
Like warframe
terse zodiac
they could leave both effects but just put them under 1 stat like crit or luck but theyd both be heavily nerfed to make up for it
dull drum
Like warframe
oh hell nah thatd inflate hp like crazy
rain geode
like I dont even notice when I direct hit/crit Im to busy focusing on the fight
dull drum
š
worn bluff
the way that FFXIV combat works with DPS it's just hard to have nuance in builds
dull drum
you know damn well how hard red crits hit
grand mesa
Idc abt substats
worn bluff
for any non dps stat
tall ore
But glowy numbers tho
grand mesa
I just want gearing in this game to be less ass
sleek moon
like I dont even notice when I direct hit/crit Im to busy focusing on the fight
That's just you though, a lot of people care about big numbers
rain geode
I dunno I cant help but remember when people were saying mare getting taken down would kill the game
a few people kinda complained but nothing really changed
terse zodiac
everyone has light in their bio now as if they didn't learn from mare lol
sleek moon
Mare alternatives popped up within like 24h
worn bluff
other genres of games typically aren't balanced around 97%+ uptime and almost every damage instance being either "stand in right place" or "die/damage down"
so they have more flexibility
no one's logging your damage and checking for uptime in monster hunter
jolly flume
I only notice when I cdh on melee
rain geode
no one's logging your damage and checking for uptime in monster hunter
if only
jolly flume
because I'm actually close enough to the boss for numbers to be in my fov lol
vestal hollow
I just want gearing in this game to be less ass
i have a game to sell you
dull drum
no one's logging your damage and checking for uptime in monster hunter
idk someone was inting in my omega raid and someone sent some uh
very analytical stickers
worn bluff
jolly flume
mhanalysis
grand mesa
i have a game to sell you
i am not playing warframe
worn bluff
gcd uptime: 15% (nice job!)
rain geode
Like if substats are going to be as unintresting as they are I would rather them just not exist and make Ilevel the only number that matters
worn bluff
broken combos: 47
terse zodiac
i think that would just lead to a bigger gearing issue
sleek moon
mhanalysis
mhanal
wind cypress
balancing raids is easier with less variance
terse zodiac
thats why we are in the state we're in yeah
grand mesa
I miss p8s
rain geode
I dont actually see what the issue would be, normally the issue would be "its boring" but like the current system is already boring
jolly flume
they haven't had an issue balancing raids that stems from damage variance
worn bluff
Try to fit as many high potency attacks into your Mega Demondrug window as possible.
jolly flume
their issue is they're too scared to make anything actually challenging sometimes
sleek moon
Like if substats are going to be as unintresting as they are I would rather them...
Idk I can't really agree with "gearing is bad, they should make it worse"
terse zodiac
not necessarily an issue just idk theres no specific gearing progression you'd need every tome/raid piece every tier
wind cypress
you can look at their isolated sub games, like field operations and see how badly balanced things can get
rain geode
not necessarily an issue just idk theres no specific gearing progression you'd n...
Thats kinda how it already is tho, you already get all of bis from savage
besides weapon depending on patch
terse zodiac
well thats what i'm saying everyone would need everything from savage
if ilvl was only thing that matters
so instead of fighting over half the pieces youd all need everything
wind cypress
my friend says ilevel is the only thing that matters, if that's so when why the illusion of choice
terse zodiac
not to mention thats just boring
rain geode
Yeah get so you get rid of the tome augement and just double the loot
sleek moon
so instead of fighting over half the pieces youd all need everything
Can you imagine that shit show in PF
jolly flume
ilvl is the only thing that matters is the most I've never stepped out of the msq mines take
grand mesa
I... really don't think our current substat system is an issue
terse zodiac
it would be nice for merc but thats really not healthy for the game imo
sleek moon
I... really don't think our current substat system is an issue
Yeah, it could be better, but we definitely don't need it to be worse
jolly flume
are they ever going to make it meaningfully interesting in a way that doesn't break the game no
wind cypress
if you remove all the materia from your gear (personal choice), the difference you're left with is tiny still
tired egret
tbh it would be funny to have gear set combos
rapid whale
if you remove all the materia from your gear (personal choice), the difference y...
define tiny
tired egret
but I know even then people will just aim for what is "best"
jolly flume
you know what
wind cypress
like 5%?
terse zodiac
if you remove all the materia from your gear (personal choice), the difference y...
that is just not true at all
rain geode
I mean there kinda isnt a way to make it meaningfully interesting
tired egret
like, one set combo will buff crit, people will just go for the crit combo
rapid whale
5% is enough to enrage on an ultimate phase if the check is tight enough
jolly flume
let's make everyone farm gear from savage, then we can upgrade each piece of gear to get random substats with random values, but the weekly loot lockout is still there
rapid whale
oh we destiny now?
jolly flume
no we genshin this shit
grand mesa
let's make everyone farm gear from savage, then we can upgrade each piece of gea...
I quit
jolly flume
BACK IN MY DAY DIADEM
sleek moon
And they could be bis
wind cypress
diablo xD
sleek moon
And that was paired with nobody being able to clear gordias
terse zodiac
idk if this is a horrible idea but i wish the gear each tier was condensed 10 levels, crafting was just made same level as last raid tier
sleek moon
Good times
low hearth
The first iteration of diadem had rng substats
wind cypress
funny thing too, crafted vs regular raid gear - regular was better if you we not going to pentameld most of the time