endgame-lounge

[rapid whale]

i told them it was prob cuz they were looking up the parses and simply decided they didnt want to risk it and that didnt go very well

bro called me slurs and a virgin

[worn bluff]

you definitely had some weird shit happen in fru p1 where you have a good comp and clean pull and then still enrage by a lot

[rapid whale]

lhw effect

[worn bluff]

and then realize there’s some people who cleared the savage tier but still don’t know how to press buttons

[rapid whale]

yuh

its me i was the person who didnt know

i got better tho

[stiff sage]

tbf i dont care if someone grey parses as long as it's not single digits constantly, i grey parse a lot on my first clears because im learning my rotation/the fight/there's a lot of fuck ups when you first clear

[rapid whale]

also depends heavily on when you clear

early weeks when gear is normalized its easier to get a higher parse on 1st clear

role/job too

you play on a job thats consistently gear fed like a samurai your first clear parses are gonna look doodoo butt since you're competing vs ppl who had like sometimes literally every drop fed into them

[worn bluff]

some greys are fine, i don’t even really bat an eye if someone joins and they have one fight grey best

but if every fight is single digit grey best it’s likely going to be a tight dps check

[low hearth]

mb

parsing savage without bis 💔

[rapid whale]

like this isnt perfect obv but most ppl would prob expect a decent parse out of this

it was a 10

[stiff sage]

HUH

HOW

[rapid whale]

gear

[stiff sage]

ooh

[rapid whale]

this was my alt with 0 pieces

[stiff sage]

im like, bruh, im not the worlds best healer i normall have an uptime around 89-90% and i can normally get between green and blue

[rapid whale]

another similar one

this was a 3

[dapper zealot]

Can't believe bapple washed 😔

[rapid whale]

granted this one was literally crafted gear so

literally less gear than week 1

no penta

[dapper zealot]

Life support gear

[rapid whale]

yea

[valid solar]

5 more levelling dungeons and ill finally have the new relics

[rapid whale]

point being tho that gear does make a big diff in funny number

[stiff sage]

tbh i wish my casting uptime was higher but i think it's a mixture of both me on controller (through pc) and having to drop uptime for unexpected heals due to fuckups or raises

having to cycle through the list takes a few seconds sometimes

[rapid whale]

yeah healer on controller is wild to me but there are world prog level players who make it work

[low hearth]

mf got orange with 2 damage downs

[rapid whale]

mb

[valid solar]

thats crit diff

[amber fable]

I got 3 on analysis like this on bard

[stiff sage]

it's not terrible but if im dropping uptime to cycle to your body, click swift raise it's gonna be 5+ sec of me dropping to raise

[amber fable]

[stiff sage]

because of controller needing to cycle through the list

[rapid whale]

yeah i cant imagine ast on controller having to card etc

like an extra 3-4 button pushes every double weave

[low hearth]

[stiff sage]

yeah i havent bothered to touch ast since the 7.0 rework but i cant imagine actually raiding with that lol

[amber fable]

You can macro for targeting

[stiff sage]

........

what

[rapid whale]

macros r almost always a forced single weave tho

or do you mean specifically for the targetting and targetting alone

[stiff sage]

whats the macro to target instead of cycling through the party list?

[rapid whale]

prob like /t <6> or w/e you have that slot set to

[stiff sage]

its always a pain in the ass for me if it's a dps that got hit because they're not just two clicks they're 3-4

[amber fable]

Like cant you make macro to target specific number on party list?

[stiff sage]

ahhhh

[amber fable]

Cuz melees are 5/6

On default

Listing

Maybe I am being too plogon pilled here since plogons can do that

[stiff sage]

i wish they gave us more hotbar space for controller, there's a way to get more hotbars but my issue is it's too sensitive on the controller to get the third/fourth hotbars properly

three taps for a 3rd would be easier than how they have controller switch to third cross hotbar thing, like how the second row is double tap

(unless that is a thing, ive tried searching before but it seems like the other thing is right then left tap to get a temp hotbar to show briefly)

[stiff sage]

will that show the 3rd cross hotbar longer? as far as what im looking up rn it's just not something they've added

to have all 3 show perm

[valid solar]

this setting controls the tightness of the input timing check for it

[stiff sage]

gotcha

[valid solar]

enable position separately

[stiff sage]

i think that only shows the 2

[valid solar]

then put 3/4 somewhere else

[stiff sage]

im not logged in so i had to pull google, this setup

putting another line would be helpful

like another either directly above or to the sides if your screen can handle it as an option

theres a lot of jobs i dont play endgame because i have to give up 1-3 abilities

[valid solar]

pretty sure this option lets you do that

[versed kayak]

If it's easier you could set both double hold directions to the same hotbar, so R2->L2 and L2->R2 go to the same bar

Slightly less slots this way, but less thinking

[stiff sage]

ill have to look into it when i get logged in but everything ive googled has basically said "no that doesnt exist, no they arent gonna do anything to add another row"

[versed kayak]

wxhb is the double tap hotbar I believe

[valid solar]

yes thats what we've been talking about

[versed kayak]

It sounds like they want that + show the third too no?

[stiff sage]

ye i already have that bar, it's the third im speaking about to show perm on screen

[versed kayak]

could use a pc hotbar I guess? but I'm not sure why you'd need it displayed, it's just muscle memory at the end of the day

[stiff sage]

true, but when im learning new buttons i normally wanna see them/know the cd too T.T

til i get the muscle memory down

[craggy marsh]

Tbh this feels like a very valid take after how many weeks it's been

Eventually even shit people will clear purely bc of gear

[rapid whale]

idk i wouldnt go as far as shit just like

'the level of play would not clear the fight at lower ilvl'

which i guess is just an hr way to phrase it but bleh

[craggy marsh]

Some of the people I had in my m12 pfs should not have been able to clear 11

[trim frost]

what if i just died

[craggy marsh]

Might sound dickish of me but w/e

[trim frost]

i feel like that’s a very normal take tho

higher ilvl = easier check = more (personal) mistakes allowed

[craggy marsh]

780 pf and you still wipe to m11 enrage with only 2 deaths

[rapid whale]

i thought it was a cold take too idk

[trim frost]

is it really elitism if you’re doing “elite-level” content tho

[alpine plover]

what's elitist about it

[trim frost]

oh my god the font update hit discord mobile i gotta disable this shit again

[craggy marsh]

Normally I don't care but this is the final tier so im gonna have higher expectations

[alpine plover]

see thing is

ok here comes my elitist take

brace yourselves

there's a limit to how bad you can be

like you can be dps bad or mechanics bad

but if you're both then...

[dull drum]

mb

[craggy marsh]

There's a limit to how many times you can blame pf

[dull drum]

i hit buttons and watch anime while raiding

[craggy marsh]

"This party was shit"

Bro if every party is shit then maybe it's not just the party

[alpine plover]

[alpine plover]

yuh

and here's another take

this tier is not exceptionally hard

it was week 1 and week 2

[craggy marsh]

It's really not yeah

M11 is spicy sure

[alpine plover]

but mechanics wise, it's very fair

yea i still think 11 is harder than 12 personally

[craggy marsh]

But it's not like 11 is asking for that much

[dull drum]

imo its about the same as CW (tier difficulty wise) but maybe thats a cooly level take idk

[alpine plover]

but it's not the apotheosis of hard mechanics

[craggy marsh]

It's got fast mechs but that's not really exclusive to 11

Bc 10 has some fast things too

9 idc

9 boring

[thin fox]

i think most would agree cruiserweight was overall a harder tier

even early on i think people would've agreed

[dull drum]

i mean it is isnt it

like statistically

less CW week 1 clears than HW

[alpine plover]

yea i also think cruise is harder

not necessarily cuz of the yans

[dull drum]

granted we got ddosed into the fucking sun for HW but

yeah

[alpine plover]

8 p1 also

[craggy marsh]

Cruise required something that a lot of people never did before

[alpine plover]

and seeds

still plague my dreams

[craggy marsh]

Okay tbf

Seeds had fuck ass strats

[dull drum]

week 1 bili seeds

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

personally it wasnt bad for me but my healers were having strokes in the corner doing bilibili seeds

[craggy marsh]

Seeds had some dogshit week 1 and week 2 strats

[dull drum]

because of certain patterns

that shit looked miserable

😭

what else was a horrid seeds strat

i never saw anyone talk about toxic seeds actually...

[alpine plover]

i'd say they're not exactly dogshit per se

but a lot can go wrong

with all strats

[rain geode]

I dont know like does anyone who didnt do it at min Ilevel unoptimal gear get carried by gear?

[craggy marsh]

Revolutionary Reign was impossible for a lot of tanks

Which tbf

Week 1 guides sucked ass at explaining it

[alpine plover]

yea i wasn't tanking but i did see my tanks suffering

😭

[craggy marsh]

Maybe rushing out guides isnt really a good idea

[robust shoal]

actual elitist take from me, I try to stay grounded but being incapable of doing your mathematical share of the damage you need to beat enrage in pentamelded gear is wild to me

[craggy marsh]

[dull drum]

we had a lot of shit explained guides in CW yeah

dont get me started on m6s man

[craggy marsh]

Tfw the "week 1" raidplan people kept sharing was missing crucial mech information

It happened this tier too

Maybe people should stop rushing out guides

[dull drum]

what was the big stinkers of misinfo this tier

m10?

[craggy marsh]

M10 yeah

There was a lot of missing info and sure it was early on

But it still sucks

[alpine plover]

yup

fire bait to furthers

fire baiting fire

water baiting water

[valid solar]

I dont remember if it was for necron or zelenia but there was a day 1 guide that had 1 mech where it was just like "I havent solved this mech"

we out here posting incomplete guides

[craggy marsh]

Fucking Zelenia guides can die in a fire

[dull drum]

yo so whats the origin of inner and outer markers

[wind cypress]

yes that lol

[dull drum]

like did the plan have both or was it just

2 seperate plans going around

[craggy marsh]

Why the fuck did people have such a hard time figuring out what strats to do for Zelenia and why is Escalon 2 STILL a fucking issue

[dull drum]

braindead escalon 2

[wind cypress]

I don't care too much for which method is used just plz don't have a million different ones, cause I have to learn each basically

[dull drum]

fan spread too hard

pls understand

[craggy marsh]

Who's the idiot who decided Escalon 2 needed to be done differently than 1 and 3

[dull drum]

actually i think i barely remember

[trim frost]

oh yeah man what if i just died actually

[dull drum]

one of them was from a kindred plan or whatever

and the other was a toxic plan marker set

[craggy marsh]

I think Zelenia ex is like the one time I saw people actually refuse to do a Hector strat

[dull drum]

for which part

cause they certainly adopted braindead esc 2

[craggy marsh]

Escalon 2

[trim frost]

hes lurking here......

[robust shoal]

I think that was bloom 5 in Zelania

[thin tartan]

winnable

wrong reply

!

[wind cypress]

I haven't cleared zen ex much but used the hector guide, that was rough

[dapper zealot]

mb

[dull drum]

😡 😡 😡

[thin tartan]

!

[craggy marsh]

Hector everything else was good for Zelenia

But I remember it taking awhile for pf to be fine with doing his Escalon 2

[dull drum]

wb braindead arcane team

it saves caster uptime!

thats what pf said

[wind cypress]

everyone run to mid and pray no one fugs up was a rough mechanic

[craggy marsh]

But also we need to kill the term braindead

Bc it's lost all meaning

Some of the braindead strats this expansion have been harder than just doing the mechanic normally

"Braindead Ice" for Sphene

[robust shoal]

braindead rev is based tho, literally press one (1) shield and maybe a mit button

[wind cypress]

the doomtrain ext, peeps don't want to watch the diamond thing in the middle move so they just stand corner and take 3 shots to the face

[craggy marsh]

I remember when everyone in this chat said braindead arcane was evil and shouldn't exist

[dull drum]

idr that one

[thin fox]

tanks take tethers with invuln

melees take 1st tanks take final 3

[dull drum]

oh that

[robust shoal]

it can't hit nw or ne three times fwiw

[dull drum]

yeah i ended up doing that in pf

[craggy marsh]

Braindead ice also had the "braindead bridges"

[wind cypress]

"just use tank LB if we get hit too much" 🤡

[thin fox]

sphene is probably still best ex in the expansion for me

[rain geode]

I mean it is a dumb strat its not like the mechanic should be hard enough you need to try and skip it

[dull drum]

you laugh bro but ask @rapid whale ive had tank lb save runs in m10

[craggy marsh]

I loved it when Hector let out a sigh of disgust when saying braindead ice

[dull drum]

and m11

[craggy marsh]

Bc even he knew it was dogshit

[alpine plover]

Tank lb my beloved

[dreamy whale]

What section are the gathering collectables in for the achievement log

[dull drum]

and m9 too ig when everyone gets a stroke near the end

[wind cypress]

I believe it, someone used a tank LB and it technically saved most peeps during m11s when someone forgot to drop a 3rd meteor in m11s

[dull drum]

@jolly flume ^

that fucking monk man except instead of forgetting to drop a meteor we just decided to kill one

[rapid whale]

ts was lame af ngl

[dreamy whale]

Brapples hoi

[craggy marsh]

Brapples...

[dreamy whale]

Lmaoo

[rapid whale]

troi oi

[dull drum]

[dreamy whale]

eventually i have to look at the balance for drg

I’ve just been pressing buttons based on vibes

[dull drum]

pt simple gameplan for dragoon honestly

[craggy marsh]

Thank you SE for not making the tank tethers during metorain cleave I know that took restraint

[dull drum]

they arent even aoe 😭

i always thought they were

and then day 2 of doing m11 i was like

"its not even aoe..."

[craggy marsh]

What's funny is early m11 guides said they were

Everyone just assumed they were aoe

[dull drum]

i guess because no one was brave enough to cause a wipe to fuck around and find out

[craggy marsh]

But nah

[dull drum]

[craggy marsh]

Best part is they're magic damage too

So you can get hit by a meteor bait and be fine

I like how it's supposed to be MT takes W-N tether and OT takes E-S tether. But nowadays it's just adjust to whatever tether the other tank doesnt have

[dreamy whale]

We love path to 90

+740% xp

Trade mentor here I come

[craggy marsh]

We're hitting level 90 before Heavensward with this one

Idk how I feel about tomestone still

On one hand it's great

But on the other hand

[dreamy whale]

Like the website?

[craggy marsh]

Ye

[dreamy whale]

I like it, makes it so I know if people are allowed to have an opinion on a fight

[craggy marsh]

It's weird bc people say to just set your shit to private if you dont want harassment. But setting it to private gets you just outright rejected or people say you're "sus"

[trim frost]

i'm kinda uncertain of if it's caused more harm than good

[stiff sage]

i will always reject someone over private logs vs just bad logs

[rapid whale]

idk

if someone wanted to get that info they could

[craggy marsh]

If it's private I usually ask

[rapid whale]

it was just that tomestone made it easier

[trim frost]

like it's nice to be able to see where people are at in the fight but at the same time it caused that weird shit of people only letting in single digit enrages

[stiff sage]

if im doing progging too and checking tomestones, i actually would actively remove someone with private tomestone

[craggy marsh]

Bc I've privated logs before from harassment

[dreamy whale]

I haven’t done any current high end content but I feel like I trust people more if they have bad logs than private

[stiff sage]

i just dont want to run the risk of someone lying about their prog

privating runs that risk higher

[dreamy whale]

Cause at least if they’re bad they’re not the type to be like “don’t post the log my parse is bad”

[rapid whale]

i think like most things in life it's one of those, "good but can be used for bad" type of things

[craggy marsh]

Honestly if a log is private I just ask the person

90% of the time theyve been reasonable

[rapid whale]

i mean

i think whats their name thinks th ey r being reasonable too

[craggy marsh]

Oh for sure

[trim frost]

yeah...

[rapid whale]

rio kodami or w/e

[stiff sage]

fair, but as a pf raider id rather not run the risk because people still lie when asked, ive had people do that before and proceeded to grief the party, so atp if the prog logs are private then im not gonna be in that group

[craggy marsh]

I hate people who just want to cherry pick logs

Post those grey logs like a real raider

[trim frost]

i really wish they would just implement some kind of personal damage tracker in the game that isn't sss

bc i feel like a good chunk of people just simply don't know how bad they're doing

[rapid whale]

@dull drum remember when they tried to bully you into deleting an ex log

[craggy marsh]

I will never trust someone who only shows orange logs

[dull drum]

id post it but like id have to blur out like

50 lines of chat

[trim frost]

and because we have to tiptoe around the tos there's no easy way to tell someone that they're griefing damagewise

[craggy marsh]

Show actual progression like a non coward

[dreamy whale]

I am the most trustworthy because I have my 50% uptime A8S and A4S logs

[dull drum]

yeah slade skywalker was insane though

(formerly soft neko)

bro couldnt even be bothered to ask me to delete a day 1 doomtrain log

[rain geode]

I upload all my logs when Im progging a fight but after my first clear I only upload clears

but I do upload all my clears

[dull drum]

so he asked a friend as a middle man to ask me to delete it

[craggy marsh]

I use the aggro list if it's a dps bc it can help

[dull drum]

to not hurt his median

[craggy marsh]

Like why does the MCH have more aggro than the VPR

[rain geode]

I think they've all my logs are below a purple now

[stiff sage]

yeahhh i was mentioning earlier in here i know a sage that doesnt know how to do a lot of damage, and i dont think they've checked their logs. Someone in ff chat told them directly their damage sucked and it caused them to get really down and felt bullied, it would be better to have a way to see personal damage

[dreamy whale]

I got this fr I can get crafting mentor in no time

[stiff sage]

tl;dr said sage cant clear m11s because they're overhealing

[rapid whale]

go do msq

[dreamy whale]

Have to grind 8 levels on drg

[rapid whale]

you dont have to do shit

you keep finding ways to procrastinate

[dull drum]

just depends on your mindset tbh

[dreamy whale]

I don’t wanna play blm anymore tho I’m bad

[dull drum]

like for me i want to contribute as much as i can so when i get told my damage is bad i accept that and try to see how i can do better

[rapid whale]

but for me? gongaga

[stiff sage]

it would be helpful tho for someone being able to check it themselves, that way they dont feel like they're being shit on. without them needing to check fflogs or tomestone

[rapid whale]

yea the improvement is the fun in of itself for me

[craggy marsh]

If you're wanting to get into raiding you have to be comfortable with people giving you advice and also sometimes just saying your damage is bad

[dull drum]

there is a way to kinda check, xivanalysis

[craggy marsh]

Doesn't mean they're being mean

They're just being honest

[dull drum]

but you'd need the log link which is probably on their tomestone if someone uploaded

[stiff sage]

edited that message, meant in game

[dreamy whale]

Bapples making me finish the last 2 levels of my msq

[dull drum]

oh hell nah they would not do an ingame dps meter

then you're just asking for 24/7 talesfromdf posts

😭

[stiff sage]

it would be helpful lmao if it was personal only

unable for teammates to see it

[alpine plover]

you think that

but...

[craggy marsh]

People who obsess over meters the most are some of the worst people damage wise tbh

[alpine plover]

most raiders log anyway

[rain geode]

I dont see them ever implementing in game dps meters

[alpine plover]

if you hide logs you're default to sus

[dull drum]

i dont even have iinact or act up these days i cannot be bothered these days

[alpine plover]

you said these days twice

[dull drum]

i have dementia

[alpine plover]

[dull drum]

old age getting to me

alr in my 20s

[stiff sage]

ive ran act a handful of times but thats too much of a pain for me to open, then upload so i rely on others to check after the fact lol

[craggy marsh]

Console raiders cant log but it's almost rare nowadays for nobody in the party to be logging

[dull drum]

yeah theres usually always at least one uploader

[stiff sage]

even when i was console only back in p1s-p4s i had logs

[craggy marsh]

Even in random dungeons

[alpine plover]

logs not existing is whatevs tbh

[rapid whale]

i have 0 evidence but i get the feeling pc players are disproportionally present in end game raiding

not saying console players cant raid just that i get the feeling by and large, pc players are more likely to

[stiff sage]

i meannnn console raiders exist, i was a console raider who only switched because i wanted penumbra mods lol

[craggy marsh]

Although who tf is just uploading random expert runs that shit is funny but also weird

[stiff sage]

that part lmao

[rapid whale]

bro the way i was ?! when i saw i had like, random dungeon or alliance raid parses

i wasl ike who is recording ts

[stiff sage]

"why tf am i parsing purple on a expert and why is this logged"

[craggy marsh]

Console raiders exist but pc raiders are more large yeah

[dull drum]

i have a 99 on viper tender valley

thoughts team

[craggy marsh]

I have a blue from orbonne day 1 back in Stormblood and im like ?????

[rain geode]

It wouldnt suprise me

[trim frost]

dude

[dull drum]

pack it up bro

[stiff sage]

there prob will be more console raiders if not this tier in 8.0 because of the big xbox push

[thin tartan]

dude.

[rapid whale]

valcors have you ever thought the universe just hates you and specifically you

[craggy marsh]

PC players are more likely to raid but the reason for that is pretty obvious

[stiff sage]

its time for you to go to bed and log off

[thin tartan]

are you just running normals over n over for fun @trim frost

[rapid whale]

discord op

[trim frost]

no

im just doing it for weeklies

[rain geode]

I dunno the MSQ takes a hot minute lol

[thin tartan]

ouu

[trim frost]

i wanna soft gear my vpr bc im using fucking aug crafted chest from last tier lmao

[craggy marsh]

Console has discord now too

Albeit a shitty implementation

[trim frost]

run m9 with me twin

[stiff sage]

you can console raid, just is more of a pain in the ass to make parties yourself. I did have a keyboard plugged into my ps5 back when i was console to chat

[alpine plover]

inact adds everything

no discrimination

[trim frost]

yeah everything gets logged

[alpine plover]

but frankly if someone judges based on expert roulete dps

then

....

[trim frost]

you can choose to upload specific fights but like lazy lol

[craggy marsh]

Honestly my raiding on pc is exactly the same as it was on console I just lag less

[stiff sage]

they're just pro gamers with big brains obv

[trim frost]

ok but i am going to judge you for doing worse than treno citizen

[alpine plover]

i alrdy know i suck

[craggy marsh]

Treno Citizen hitting 17k

[rapid whale]

Trenton citizen the goat

[alpine plover]

i got my purple in heavyweight i dont care about being judged anymore

[trim frost]

yheah me too

[craggy marsh]

Treno Citizen doing more damage than some of these healers in pf

Get that mf in a static

[rapid whale]

Bro some of these DPS even

[dapper zealot]

I just had a mentor keep standing in citadel buster

[amber fable]

Mb

[dapper zealot]

and died

[stiff sage]

yeahh the only changes is i can see my character mods and i have a smaller screen

[rain geode]

I did expert roulette recently and had doggy damage because I didnt notice I was in my OC armor

[craggy marsh]

Talking about console raiding reminds me of my cruiserweight static and how the static lead went ballistic bc I said I played with controller

[dreamy whale]

[stiff sage]

i remember first tier for dt i decided to do dps for fun even though i normally whm, and i came across a whm that i swear did medica at least 20-30 times the entire run. it was absolutely insane

[alpine plover]

how dare u

[rain geode]

I always raise an eyebrow if someone plays with controller but Ill least give me them a shot

[dreamy whale]

Am I gonna get screamed at for console raiding

[craggy marsh]

How dare I play the game on a supported device

[alpine plover]

[dreamy whale]

How dare I use the same input as jp world first raiders

[stiff sage]

I raid on controller but i can at least pull a blue parse as healer

[rain geode]

I knew a guy who played fighting games on a Guitar hero controller and he was pretty decent so people can make anything work

[craggy marsh]

A controller wont make a difference in parsing

[alpine plover]

judging playing on controller as being bad is actually negative iq move ngl

my cohealer in dsr played on controller and he pulled the craziest ress stunts

[craggy marsh]

Idk where people get this weird idea that playing on controller makes you worse in the game

[alpine plover]

controller doesn't make a difference

in skill

[craggy marsh]

When it just comes down to what you're comfortable with

[rapid whale]

There are even world progress that click whatever works works

[dreamy whale]

Yeah I’m just bad

[rapid whale]

We all are

[stiff sage]

controller isnt actually worse, the only annoying part is if you're a healer and have to go through the party list but you can do well even with that

its really just muscle memory and i feel like i can move faster with button pressing compared to changing onto a keyboard and mouse

[dreamy whale]

Xeems is like rank 2 or 3 and apparently bro just plays based on vibes

[craggy marsh]

Playing on controller taught me to make macros for buddy mits more

[stiff sage]

just need my thumbs

[craggy marsh]

Can't be assed to cycle through the party list

[rain geode]

I tend to use whatever control method seems best for a game so I swap what Im using a lot

[stiff sage]

i kinda get that tho, ive only been playing for 5 years but on jobs like whm that ive played the entire time i only generally need to know my opener but i can free style it to tailor to the fight and do fine. play the game enough on one job you generally can just press whatever works

[dreamy whale]

I lowk

Hate blm

Casters in general except for smn

I prefer my mobility to be built into my rotation not slapped on ogcds

[stiff sage]

i was leveling blm the other day, I genuinely hate the fact there's a set rotaton and you cant really mix it up too much without doing way less dmg

[rain geode]

I havnt been liking BLM either tho I think part of it is because its annoying job to do roulettes on

[valid solar]

which job in the game isnt like that ?

[craggy marsh]

I hate BLM only bc it feels genuinely awful if you're not at level cap

[rain geode]

thats kinda all jobs at the end of the day like it or not

[dreamy whale]

Warriuh

[stiff sage]

idk with blm i cant get bored and do whatever without griefing the party

in casual content not raiding

[dreamy whale]

You pop fell cleave every time it comes up

[craggy marsh]

Every expansion they add more stuff to BLM that makes it suck to not have it

[valid solar]

yeah but theres no job where you can do that

[stiff sage]

for rdm for example i kinda just press whatever buttons i want and im fine but i also play in casual content only lmao

unless my gauge is full then im doing that

[craggy marsh]

DT release Picto

Press whatever buttons

[amber fable]

That is what it does in savage too really

[craggy marsh]

You'll be top dps

[valid solar]

freestyle samurai might be up your alley

[lyric summit]

so uhh no branching combo I guess? that's still a lot of jobs

[amber fable]

High end content is less training dummy of boss while doing damage

[alpine plover]

if you play casually why are you in endgame-malding-general

but anyway biper is pretty ez

[dreamy whale]

I thought sam needed to adjust the rotation based on downtime

[versed kayak]

healers I guess

not much creativity in one damage button

[stiff sage]

wrong tag but

[alpine plover]

excuse you

two buttons

[amber fable]

4 now

You get some ogcds too

[stiff sage]

bc i do raiding on 2 jobs, all other jobs are casual stuff for me lol

viper is whm for melees

[alpine plover]

well all jobs are viaple

viable*

[amber fable]

Raiding and learning jobs is fun

[rain geode]

I wonder what healer has the literally least amount of buttons that hurt the enemy when you click them

[alpine plover]

maybe not mch

or idk

maybe they got buffed

[lyric summit]

blm still more involved with proper ui/af swapping than smn, like you have 3 summons to pick from sure but what thinking are you doing for that. none

[dreamy whale]

Prolly sch

“Hur hur art of war” until you get broil

[amber fable]

It get impaction

[stiff sage]

sch is the only job i wont learn because my brain is too small

[valid solar]

this is what a freestyle samurais rotation looks like

[rapid whale]

goated

[rain geode]

then you probably dont want to learn SCH if you concerned about a small brain

[amber fable]

Thats just any job free style

Tbf

[dreamy whale]

Wtf is that

[trim frost]

bungo logs

[alpine plover]

wtf bungo logs

[versed kayak]

Broil, Ruin 2, AoW, Bio, the 2 min DoT, Energy Drain

[alpine plover]

this is the best rotation

[rain geode]

So 6

[versed kayak]

sage also gets two dots hmm, maybe it's WHM

[amber fable]

Its doing damage atleast

[alpine plover]

it is!

maybe i request a bozja reclear

to feel the adrenaline again

[stiff sage]

whm has one dot

[amber fable]

Bozja duels with no cheese

[dapper zealot]

whm has 6 buttons

[amber fable]

All healer bar sage has one dot

[versed kayak]

whm gets their regular gcd, dot, assize, blood lily and holy right? so 5

[stiff sage]

damage yea, i do endgame raiding so i can press all buttons on whm

[versed kayak]

sch has two

[craggy marsh]

The humble scholar upon entering M10 and seeing art of war is a gain on 2

[dapper zealot]

glare 4

[amber fable]

Pom gives that

[versed kayak]

oh so also 6 for whm

[craggy marsh]

Never forget they took aoe dots from whm and sch

[alpine plover]

bard is next

[stiff sage]

while sge has aoe dot smh

[amber fable]

They made vpr when rpr was already there

[alpine plover]

on the dot chop block

[amber fable]

Bard dots needs to do more damage

[craggy marsh]

I fucking love how they gave vpr the rpr thing where you need to apply something to do more damage. Only for them to remove it a week later

[amber fable]

It does a tad bit low for 45 sec duration

[stiff sage]

honestly one thing im happy about with job changes was whm being able to gap close, that was a pain in the ass to only have to run everywhere

[dapper zealot]

wait ast only has st, dot, aoe, earthy and lord

[versed kayak]

macrocosmos too

[amber fable]

Og called it trick attack

[versed kayak]

and oracle but idk how that works

[amber fable]

Or well mug

[dreamy whale]

I have somehow managed to spend close to 2k on xiv since the release of endwalker

[grand mesa]

I just down-sped to 2.43 on ast

good riddance

[craggy marsh]

SB trick attack was the shit man

[versed kayak]

is it just a divination flip skill?

[alpine plover]

oracle is aoe

and instant

[versed kayak]

so ast has 7
sch has 6
whm has 6
sge has 6 too right?

ah, forgor phlegma

so 7 for sge

[alpine plover]

sge has

dosis dotsis phlegma psyche pneuma toxicron sge-artofwar aoe-dot

[dapper zealot]

are we counting both dots for sge?

[versed kayak]

and psyche, so 8 :D

[dapper zealot]

yeah 8

[trim frost]

e.dys is one of the worst buttons in the game

[versed kayak]

so sch and whm actually have the least, huh

[dapper zealot]

no u

[thin fox]

why are THESE the healers i get in m11 reclears

[alpine plover]

mb

[dapper zealot]

mb

[grand mesa]

mb

[thin fox]

[alpine plover]

Med 0

[versed kayak]

are they at least healing a lot

[alpine plover]

is wild

[versed kayak]

or is it just shit uptime in General

[alpine plover]

oh wait it's 1 kill

[thin fox]

no we wiped to no shields in m11

[alpine plover]

nvm

[versed kayak]

well that's rather unfortunate then

[rain geode]

mb

[valid solar]

is raise the only think worth using thin air on or would there be a situation where I thin aired cure 3 or something like that

[trim frost]

yeah

thin air cure 3 is pretty normal

[grand mesa]

thin air + any hardcast gcd is normal

though

if you're confident you're not using it on anything it's usually just a thin air glare

well

you can thin air a glare if you're close to having two stacks

or if you have to stacks

[rain geode]

You get 2 charges so I assume you always just use at least one stack on something

[grand mesa]

and then hold onto that last one for what you need it

mhm

[rain geode]

Bonus points if its some pricier like a medica 2

[grand mesa]

the only case id ever hold onto both is if I'm doing chaotic

people sure love dying in that first phase

[rain geode]

Man I wanted to read the chapters I need for my book so I dont have to do it tommorow and raid but its already 6 am and I cannot focus

[alpine plover]

i love chaotic

[rain geode]

I have no opinions on chaotic

getting 8 to do savage already takes long enoug thanks

[visual geyser]

Incredible content

Comedy too

[rain geode]

I would do it if the opportunity persented itself but uh I dont see that happening

[boreal pumice]

https://imgur.com/qbgfi7J

[rain geode]

Body checks with 24 people sound like an actual nightmare from the deepest pit of hell

[visual geyser]

Not really

[boreal pumice]

its oddly not that bad

[visual geyser]

Body checks are so overstated in chaotic

[valid solar]

its finally over

[visual geyser]

The only bad one is the one in looming chaos lol

[stiff sage]

because fuck you lmao

[boreal pumice]

[visual geyser]

Like oh no we wiped because blew up 4 towers

Because you should absolutely wipe if that many people fuck up a basic stack mechanic

[boreal pumice]

at worst 1-2 towers go off because some peps dead but thats a vun stack and can recover with tank lb

[visual geyser]

The only part where the body checks get unrecoverable is looming

Because having 1 death in the wrong place can send people all over the place

Dogshit mechanic btw

[alpine plover]

you tank lb the towers after looming

[boreal pumice]

i pray that im not on platforms doing inner ring is way easier

[alpine plover]

yes

[visual geyser]

I do outer ring because it’s harder lol

You guarantee one less idiot is in inner to make things smoother

[boreal pumice]

nah no way , inner is the easier postion

[visual geyser]

Yea flipped it

I can’t trust anyone in outer ring

So I do it so I can see and call out any morons

[zealous meteor]

what if i'm the idiot

[boreal pumice]

long as i die after a tower soak its more recoverable since its like going back to p1 after

[zealous meteor]

do i go inner to have a higher chance of clearing

[alpine plover]

maybe?

outer is not really hard either per se

[visual geyser]

The Dps check is less strict now I think

[alpine plover]

it's more airated

[visual geyser]

At least it felt that way the last time I did it

[alpine plover]

it's just you gotta have people know how to do pairs

[visual geyser]

You can have a funky loaming and it’ll be fine ish

[alpine plover]

lemme see my logs

from like sunday

[visual geyser]

For?

[alpine plover]

chaotic

[visual geyser]

I impinge new food and pots help a bit

[boreal pumice]

i sometimes feel pairs is off like i know my postion my haler partner is there and both still die

[alpine plover]

seems like we had 17 deaths and 39 DDs

and we cleared

[visual geyser]

Yea see

I don’t think that’s possible at launch

[alpine plover]

definitely not

yea it's not really the dps

it's mostly just not dying at the wrong time

[visual geyser]

Ye

After loaming you just are trying to survive lol

[boreal pumice]

once your back to p1 is pretty much a clear

[visual geyser]

Not die too much and get to the final phase dps check is a joke

[alpine plover]

baits to 3 closest people. if the others are not in position you can bait 2 things

and die

fun fact a tank can also just survive solo

[visual geyser]

I wanna do forked and chaotic again

Chaotic is only poppin during bonus tho

[alpine plover]

are there no chaotic communities on NA?

[visual geyser]

There is but i don’t use em

I just pf all my clears

[boreal pumice]

i like it with coms

[rain geode]

I do kinda want the hair I think it would look nice on one of my alts

[alpine plover]

i wonder if my hair sold

the latest ones

was 40 mil each

[boreal pumice]

i dont know how or why the hands work like my leader just says forwards or backwards

[alpine plover]

do you want me to explain ?

[boreal pumice]

sure why not

[alpine plover]

when she sends the tethers she puts her hand forward towards a diamond

if the hand is "Grabbing" the diamond from below, it's back safe

[dapper zealot]

and then go forward and back

[alpine plover]

if she "pushes" the diamond, then it's front safe

or you can also deduce by the sound effect, if you have them turned on. Front safe barely makes a sound. Back safe blows your eardrums

[boreal pumice]

il try to look at next time , i looked at the crystal thinking is it a color thing , i know its not a name

[alpine plover]

yea it's her hand position

[valid solar]

its peak

[alpine plover]

bungo

[valid solar]

who tf is bungo

im Andy

it says so right there

[alpine plover]

Bundy

[dapper zealot]

Ted Bundy?

[remote gate]

im sorry i thought those attacks were gcds

[alpine plover]

holy

[valid solar]

that stack can be survived solo ?

didnt know that

[zealous meteor]

is that a hy*r

[dapper zealot]

Oh I didn't even see that lmao

[valid solar]

do you want my fried potato recipe

[zealous meteor]

no.

get away from me

[dapper zealot]

I do

[alpine plover]

im pretty sure it's survivable

but

there's also a tanklb there

[valid solar]

its super simple, so you take a potato and dice it, let it soak in iced water for like 30 or so minutes, then you toss it into the pan with your favorite oil of choice, and add some garlic, onion (if you like onion), salt and pepper, fry it, and then you have these tiny crunchy diced potato squares that you can eat with a spoon

[alpine plover]

but i think it expires before the stack connects

[valid solar]

you can also add cheese and an egg if you want to make it more like a proper meal

I should also clarify this isnt actually my recipe I learnt it from a russian youtuber like a decade ago

[dapper zealot]

Life of Boris?

[valid solar]

yeah him

does he still make videos

[dapper zealot]

idk haven't watched him in years

[alpine plover]

potat

[sleek moon]

semi related

[wicked delta]

I could go for a burger rn

[zealous meteor]

burger andy

[alpine plover]

I ate burgr ystd

Today i eat doner

[sly basin]

donger

[thin tartan]

BUR

BURGER?

DID HE JUST SAY HIS LAST NAME IS BURGER?

[jolly flume]

[bold horizon]

Serpentlord Fate open in Leviathan NA server

[loud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/that-feels-nice-bob-belcher-the-bobs-burgers-movie-i-like-how-this-feels-this-feels-great-gif-25365623

[wicked delta]

There’s gonna be someone who may actually call me Andy bc they think thats my name

And I am terrified

[flint ledge]

Hello Andy

[dreamy whale]

Hello tobandy

[dapper zealot]

Look at this loser Andy

[wicked delta]

You see none of you are funny because you know thats not my name

[queen raft]

You sure about that? Your nickname says Andy

[wicked delta]

You’re like seals clapping when you see fireworks you cannot help yourselves

[flint ledge]

Mb

[queen raft]

https://tenor.com/view/waddle-dee-pat-kirby-headpats-cheer-up-gif-18377023

[mossy eagle]

In love with the fact that Virginia has a governor with a phonetic "burger" in their last name

[thin tartan]

BURGER?

[wind cypress]

abigale spamburger , going to make me look it up lol

Abigail Spanberger*

[wicked delta]

She is named Burger for an amazing reason

[uncut pebble]

you need to go

[vast jacinth]

i just had a burger

[uncut pebble]

burger.............?

[worn bluff]

did they change the colors on fflogs

or just me

[jolly flume]

uh

yeah actually

unless my eyes have broken in the last 24 hours

the pinks and purples are a lot less saturated than they were

which is funny because the legends on the scatterplots still have the old colors

[queen raft]

I'm gonna have hamburger steak this weekend

[worn bluff]

they're like pastel

[jolly flume]

the original blue is #0070FF

new blue is #5990FF

[tulip anvil]

sound syummy

[jolly flume]

but yeah everything is definitely off

[worn bluff]

the chiyo i know would never know what blue looks like on his page

[jolly flume]

I had to look at my week 1 lindwurm

which is now a 59

[worn bluff]

i would never have a blue there (because i didn't clear week 1)

[jolly flume]

oh

well there you go

[worn bluff]

they are kind of cute

[wind cypress]

had a quick question, in gear simming websites like xivgear changing from det to direct hit barely makes a difference, but you'd think direct hit would make more of a difference? like if you have 0 direct hit you'd get none of the 25% chance to do extra damage right?

[clear plume]

Well yea, but getting like 0.4% chance to do the extra damage just makes as much of a difference as getting 0.1% damage from det is on an average sim.

[jolly flume]

it does make more of a difference, that's why supports nearly always meld dh in every spare slot that isn't crit or speed

[dapper zealot]

Follow bis guides. The nerds have already mathed it out

[jolly flume]

I think you're just overestimating how much of a difference substats actually make in your final damage output, it's not that big

which means the difference between mildly suboptimal stats and the optimal set is also not that big

I just removed two entire +54 crit melds from my bis and it was a 0.59% difference lol

[wind cypress]

so take healers for example, det does slightly less, but no one really cares about more healing output because it's already high so they just slot dht?

[clear plume]

Asterisk, it makes more of a difference if you already have det but no dh

[jolly flume]

.

we start with 0

[clear plume]

Because moving from 22.3% det to 22.4% det scalar isn’t an actual 0.1% damage increase, while 0.4% dh chance is a 0.1% damage increase

[jolly flume]

it's the thing you experience in a lot of games where the damage formula has a bunch of multipliers

saturating one multiplier is pretty much never better than spreading them out

[clear plume]

Unless it’s crit

[jolly flume]

unless it's crit

[worn bluff]

simply put everything into det and be lucky on crit/DH

[clear plume]

That’s what I do for HC parsing yeah, I go to exact det tiers and drop dh from the recommended sets

[dapper zealot]

This is too much mathing for me

[clear plume]

I’m at 2600 1950ish when bis is closer to 2400-2200ish

For the two stats

[worn bluff]

i didn't know people do that i was just joking

[clear plume]

It sims higher on lucky runs

Since you farm for lucky runs anyways, is fine

[worn bluff]

guess it just takes longer to get lucky run

[clear plume]

(It’s average is also like a whole 4 dps lower)

[wind cypress]

yeah makes sense

[jolly flume]

xivgear has a sim option to calculate for plus however many standard deviations of dps on a run

it's not uncommon that a set with a lower avg sims higher at +2/3 stddev

[wicked delta]

am i crazy this doesnt look red at all

[sonic osprey]

is there an act overlay that accounts for rdps?

[jolly flume]

download the fflogs uploader and set up the overlay

[clear plume]

Fflogs overlay does, nothing in act does, because rdps is a fflogs creation

[jolly flume]

ACT itself can't do that

[clear plume]

It definitely has a red tint

[sonic osprey]

ohhh ok

[wicked delta]

I see the tint in certain parts but it looks majority brown to me im jus

???

[clear plume]

I mean that’s how hair colour in this game works with a lot of hair styles

[wind cypress]

can use a color picker in an image editing app to get the real value if your eyes are tricking you

[clear plume]

But it’s the style, not the colour

[wind cypress]

and change the background to see it with mor elight

[jolly flume]

that row looks closer to brown than red to me anyways

picking the darkest color out of it you're not gonna get anymore than like

the slightest hint

[wind cypress]

looks brown to me

[dapper zealot]

It's like slightly reddish brown

[wicked delta]

These colors are too damn confusing

[jolly flume]

idk why they didn't just give us color sliders or a wheel

storing a color hex in a database cannot be that much harder than a 2 digit int

[wicked delta]

Id kill for a color slider

[dapper zealot]

11.0

[zealous meteor]

the smallest most databases let you go is a 32 bit integer so they can store colour codes without any extra space anyway

because the hex code is just a number

[sleek moon]

do you have screenshotto

they didnt change for me

@ fflogs log color thing

wtf

why did it ping that person

lol

oh named fflogs

[wicked delta]

guy named fflogs

[finite plank]

they're asking for it

ping em

make them regret being named fflogs

[loud nymph]

there are in fact two people named fflogs

for reasons that defy understanding

[sleek moon]

well i got the ss from the fflogs discord

tbh kinda ugly

[alpine plover]

[sleek moon]

purple and pink were too close

[worn bluff]

it was cute

[rapid whale]

mb i was born like this

[molten kindle]

LMAO hi

[stray forge]

Jets dream world

[worn bluff]

why were you pastel

[molten kindle]

Now that you've summoned me, I can grant you THREE fflogs wishes

[jolly flume]

oh

ur in my fc

the real fflogs

[stray forge]

☠️

[molten kindle]

oh hey it's Chiyo

[sleek moon]

Can I give a 0 to anyone I want

[worn bluff]

i wish for chiyo's page to show all 0s

[sleek moon]

Hey don't steal my wish

[jolly flume]

[stray forge]

I wish for all of chiyos heal buttons to turn into energy drain

[jolly flume]

almost said a slur

[rapid whale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3YcYLE90po

[jolly flume]

mb.

[worn bluff]

wait no

[molten kindle]

monkey paw curls Granted, but only can give 0 to yourself

[sleek moon]

I'll take it

[worn bluff]

i wish for all the colors to be swapped so 100 is gray, 99 is green

[jolly flume]

can't believe they wrote a 1 hour song about me

[worn bluff]

i think some people would unironically crash out

if they flipped the colors

[jolly flume]

make orange/pink purple instead

purple is the best color

[worn bluff]

make them all different shades of gray

[jolly flume]

50, even

[rapid whale]

oops all gray

[worn bluff]

[wind cypress]

mmorpgs are based off karate belt colors

[molten kindle]

monkey paw curls granted. You shall develop achromatopsia in coming years.

[wind cypress]

white/grey -> green -> blue -> purple -> red -> brown -> black 🤣

[jolly flume]

you don't want to know about the mythical red parse

[stray forge]

I hate usagi

[dapper zealot]

I wish for everyone to swap logs randomly

[rapid whale]

bnuy?

[wind cypress]

you don't want my undergeared 20% parse on m11s

[stray forge]

Wish granted you have Zane’s logs

[jolly flume]

[dapper zealot]

Considering I haven't even done the fight, I'll take it

[wind cypress]

the funny thing I find about savage, 24k tank deeps is grey, 26k tank deeps is purple - like bruh 2k is the margin ?

[jolly flume]

2k is enough for you to singlehandedly cause a 1% enrage in m11s

so yes

that's quite a lot

[rapid whale]

put it into % mindset instead

like a 10% gap

gray is the worst of those who cleared so

consider all the ppl enraging etc

[stray forge]

2k is a lot

[loud nymph]

2k can easily be the difference between clearing and not

[wind cypress]

like grey is good enough to clear (obviously cause you cleared) but 2k seems like a small margin - in the previous tier it seemed like there were larger margins

[loud nymph]

you know all those m11s wipes at 0.1% enrage

those were clears with another 2k dps

[boreal pumice]

just crit

[rapid whale]

ok so the thing about the mindset that gray good enough to clear

consider this

if every single playe rin the party performed at that level would that party have cleared

[stray forge]

I will not and I will continue gray parsing

[wind cypress]

yeah, so you need good dpsers with bad gear to work hard to clear, so they can come back with bad groups and help carry them to clear with upgraded gear?

[rapid whale]

wat

[loud nymph]

huh

[stray forge]

wat

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-let-him-cook-cook-toy-story-woody-gif-27345024

[stray forge]

Soitified gray parser

[wind cypress]

if everyone starts week 1 prog with bad gear, you only have skilled players clearing - which (in later weeks) join pfs creating an offset of higher dps to help lower dps clear, am I making sense?

[jolly flume]

those skilled players are a) largely in statics and thus not in the pf pool b) largely not going to go back into prog parties in week 2 to suffer

[stray forge]

Most of the week 1 ppl probs won’t be playing with the others

[boreal pumice]

its not "bad gear" its the best gear you can start with

[jolly flume]

what happens is gear creep

[wind cypress]

yeah gear creep

[jolly flume]

people who cleared 9 and 10 week 1, 1/8 of them now have raid accessories and left sides

[boreal pumice]

chiyo gonna be rocking his criterion wpn as a flex

[jolly flume]

that piles up over time

typically this would be true of tome gear too but not so much this tier since we got delayed

[stray forge]

Okay but who the hell is Andy seriously

[rapid whale]

msq andy

[jolly flume]

I know like four people named andy

[deep gale]

john andy

[zealous meteor]

i know two

[wind cypress]

I only know of andy's chocolate, pretty good xD

any who back to work for me o//

[worn bluff]

unless they're streamers looking for content of them screaming at PF

wtf

[wicked delta]

[rapid whale]

is that furen

[jolly flume]

no thats freak mo

he was a fucking demon in destiny 2 too so I'm not surprised lol

[flint ledge]

89 smh

[rapid whale]

o yea freak mo crazy good too

[craggy marsh]

Were they a Hunter main

[jolly flume]

top d2 players dont have mains they just play whatever happens to be broken

https://www.youtube.com/@Xemo/videos

[craggy marsh]

Good, good

I will never respect just straight Hunter mains

Real gamers play all 3

[jolly flume]

I hated titan jump

but strand titan was broken for a while so I kinda just did for gms

[stray forge]

Titans grip

[jolly flume]

why did amazon name their llm rufus bro

who tf is rufus

[stray forge]

Why llm

[rapid whale]

rufus was a character in street fighter 4

[craggy marsh]

Destiny 2 endgame got boring after a but bc I hated how their idea of strong enemies was just "Oh enemies are always 20+ powerlevels higher than you"

[craggy marsh]

Or the whole "You're -20 level than what you really are"

[stray forge]

Isn’t that the same in every game? Other games just slap an elite symbol on 🙂

[craggy marsh]

Im so glad im 2 years sober from that dogshit game

[rapid whale]

gun go brrr

[craggy marsh]

The gunplay is fun I'll give it that

"KWTD I'm add clear"

A phrase that haunts me forever

[rapid whale]

just a matter of time until they make a borderlands mmo ig

that will play almost exactly the same as destiny

[jolly flume]

if you're add clear we dont need you in the raid

we just 3 man that shit lol

[craggy marsh]

Tfw the people doing mechanics have more kills than the add clear

[alpine plover]

we killed during insane air 2

cooked tier

[rapid whale]

yea

on tyrant u can skip the final 2min entirely

just dies

[terse zodiac]

This is always the case and always will be

[jolly flume]

to everyone's surprise, 15% higher dps makes the fight a lot shorter

[zealous meteor]

[sleek moon]

i was using caster lb on the bj brothers but it's causing them to die right before/during buffs

so no more lb

[terse zodiac]

Flashbacks to some random scholar telling my dancer they need lb3 immediately and lb2 at the end to beat m10 damage check

[finite plank]

tank lb3 and call it a day in mitting

[jolly flume]

same with 11

lb before flatliner=moron

[finite plank]

remember lb 2 into lb3 or hold it for whatever's going to wipe us in m7s for how much lb gen is there

[sleek moon]

in pf its prob still good in case shit happens later on

[jolly flume]

the shit in question: wiping to flatliner because you didn't have the lb3

or hell even 2/4 lol

the clear we did for bungus and mango was exhibit a of that

[finite plank]

it's now hold lb3 for healer lb3 incase of anything going wrong during arena split

[jolly flume]

correct choice

[finite plank]

being geared = hold for lb3 anyways or tank lb 3 to ignore mechs

best priv

thanks gear creep

[terse zodiac]

Hold lb3 for the hardest mech should always be the case unless youre struggling with 1% enrage imo