endgame-lounge

[wind cypress]

tanking as a gunbreaker be like, party: use your group mits tank, we're about to get hit bit, gunbreaker: here you go! 5% yeah

[zealous meteor]

it's 10% phys and 5% magic right
and the opposite for... DRK?

[jolly flume]

they're both 10 magic 5 phys

also we play magic damage xiv

the 5 is relevant like 10% of the time

[low hearth]

It’s fun !

[wind cypress]

meanwhile war is like, here is 15% of my hp, after I use +20% or w/e hp boost on myself, you're welcome

[jolly flume]

shake dispels thrill it doesn't stack like that

[worn bluff]

fell cleave and primal rend are cool buttons but i don't think they make up for the lack of other buttons on WAR

[jolly flume]

also shield mits are ass at certain things

[low hearth]

Melee in ultimate is free asf 😭

You just punch boss

And feint every once in a while

[jolly flume]

press shake it off during tracking tremors we won't even notice

give me my hol back

[stray forge]

What’s feint

[jolly flume]

cosmetic mitigation

[low hearth]

Does thrill heal when it expires?

[jolly flume]

no

it heals on cast

[low hearth]

o

[zealous meteor]

going "gunbreaker is barely a tank" and then citing warrior is. something

[jolly flume]

to make up for the extra hp

[terse zodiac]

press your mitigation in m11s or get out of my pf

[worn bluff]

they should go even further into WAR being the gap close tank and just give you 10 charges of onslaught that still do damage

[jolly flume]

I knew this was coming at some point

[low hearth]

That fight is way too hard

[wind cypress]

I don't know much I play the lowest dps tank (paladin) 🙃

[zealous meteor]

finally WAR will get more than 2 weaves per burst

[worn bluff]

warrior is barely a job

[low hearth]

I was too focused on my rotation and it delayed my reaction time by 0.5 seconds so I forgot to swap spots with the other tank for Great Wall of fire

💔

[round burrow]

Warrior is fell cleave infinite /j

[worn bluff]

doing high level roulette while also leveling WAR is probably one of the most boring things i've ever done in this game

[low hearth]

My bad !

[zealous meteor]

like WAR is a viable tank but its got some laughably bad mits compared to other tanks

[wind cypress]

prob I had on warrior on m11s was primal rend comes up right when the boss moves into the axe spot

so I use it and die or not use it xD

[terse zodiac]

i remember trying so hard to maximize my feints early in my endgame journey as if the 0% it gave back then would help the 99% magical attacks

[round burrow]

I keep forgetting why wars mits are bad

[jolly flume]

because they mit less lol

[torn mesa]

primal rend doesn't work that way though

[round burrow]

Oh how unfortunate

[torn mesa]

you've 30s to use it and all

[worn bluff]

part of WAR's kit is making sure your OT buddy mits you

[jolly flume]

hi noble

i'm you

[low hearth]

mb

[torn mesa]

[jolly flume]

mods made my name this

forced identity theft

[round burrow]

Me when my mt is a warrior

"i saw life flash before my eyes"

[worn bluff]

it actually was this in FRU tanking with a warrior bc if i forgot to short mit them they would die to burn mark sometimes

mb

[torn mesa]

"Bloodwhetting is so good cause I can heal so much in dungeons"

https://tenor.com/view/mobile-mobile-ads-ads-beat-game-gif-16155291

[jolly flume]

war ot was the correct choice in fru

[zealous meteor]

WAR is the "hp tank" but that doesn't really work when a lot of mechanics in extreme and up will one shot you without mit

[wind cypress]

their self healing is damage positive, unlike the paladin I'll give em that

[jolly flume]

what is sheltron

[terse zodiac]

paladin has a ton of self healing in their kit you don't need clemency

[wind cypress]

smol

[jolly flume]

what is every spell you have

1200p is small?

😭

1000 sorry

idfk

it's big

[zealous meteor]

holy sheltron is a 1000 potency regen on effectively a 25s cooldown

[terse zodiac]

clemency is huge for downtime and world prog too

[wind cypress]

I can't sheltron when the MT keeps telling me to put protection or w/e on them

[jolly flume]

you literally can

they don't share cooldowns

[low hearth]

Paladin and gunbreaker have so much mit bruh

[worn bluff]

not to mention intervention can be almost a 30% mit

[trim frost]

assuming max uptime on autos it's about 22s cd for holy sheltron

holy spirit is healing

blade combo is healing

[wind cypress]

now just give us bloodwhetting and we'll be good to go, mean while dark knight is like bruh

[low hearth]

Can’t healers help bro

[zealous meteor]

why do you want bloodwhetting

[jolly flume]

pf healers

[low hearth]

Sitting on 2 stacks of benison for no reason

[trim frost]

drk in dungeon should just hold abyssal drain

[worn bluff]

i mean yeah in a more experienced party WARs survive, but it was funny in early prog

[zealous meteor]

bloodwhetting's healing does very little in single target

[trim frost]

theres ur "bloodwhetting" lmao

[low hearth]

0/7 aquaveil uses 💔

[jolly flume]

mb

[wind cypress]

how many hits you get off bloodwhetting duration, like 3?

[trim frost]

0 aquaveil 0 benison 7 parse

[low hearth]

It’s free mit!

[jolly flume]

4 on a lateweave

[amber fable]

8 sec duration

Divide by 2.5

[zealous meteor]

1200-1600 potency heal, yes, but that heal won't do anything when you're dead from a lack of % based mit

[trim frost]

thats like... maybe 50k hp total on a single target lol

even aurora does more healing than that

[amber fable]

Primal rend on bw

Crit hp

[low hearth]

Yo ! Is 8.0 really this year?

[amber fable]

No

[trim frost]

potentially

[wind cypress]

I'll believe it when I see it

[jolly flume]

if I drop my buddy mit

guess which tank dies

[low hearth]

They still gotta drop ult , alliance raid , forked tower 2

That’s a lot of content

[trim frost]

also war is cringe in dungeons bruh imagine having a gain on 4 aoe

[worn bluff]

can WARs even survive mortal slayer reliably without 40%?

[low hearth]

Rampart + Thrill + Blood should be k

[trim frost]

uhhhh

^

yeah

[low hearth]

If you’re at max

[worn bluff]

i get pretty low on PLD depending on the healer

[low hearth]

If not GG

[worn bluff]

other tank is comfier bc they get intervention

if only i could sheltron + intervention myself

[low hearth]

I be fighting for my life on drk bro

[trim frost]

ramp bw is like ~35% mit for the first 4s and then i guess the stacked healing action buff is useful maybe possibly not really

[worn bluff]

yeah my cotank is drk i try to count both of our hits and intervention the GCD before

[trim frost]

you can do that but drk shouldn't need help there either

[low hearth]

Rampart + Oblation + TBN + Dark Mind and I live with like 15%

[trim frost]

not like there's other outgoing damage during the mechanic so who care lol

[worn bluff]

being last hit when healers fell asleep can be a little scary

for the autos after

[amber fable]

Oblation vigil alone is enough for drk

[jolly flume]

healer use single targets challenge

[amber fable]

On slayer

[worn bluff]

we do 40% for stack buster then invuln snake heads bc sometimes melees are slow

we decided to put the scary stuff first and then rest of fight is safe

[trim frost]

i do that too

for some reason i've had cotanks invuln that and then eat shit to head

[low hearth]

need that for the stack busters bro

[worn bluff]

yeah some people prefer to do that which is fine. i just don't trust people during snake heads

[trim frost]

i think it's safer to invuln head

stack buster doesn't do enough damage to warrant invuln imo

[mossy eagle]

I have died with this before but I might have been lower than max

it's pretty tight compared to other tanks

[worn bluff]

i saw a WAR shake off their 40% right before it went off

[jolly flume]

why are they even shaking that

do fixer hello

[worn bluff]

idk

i veil the spread/stack before that because i have a million mits

[random needle]

Shake it Off is such a funny button

Why can you delete your own mitigations with other mitigations

[loud nymph]

because WAR is not a real job

[worn bluff]

man i wish WAR had something more unique

ok not like that

[torn mesa]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/1rdpvo0/passport_checks_are_useless_comparison_of_jpna_dc/

[jolly flume]

you can make it useful in some situations, you just need to not be an ape and delete all your mit right when you actually need it

[torn mesa]

something to digest while bored at work

[low hearth]

[low hearth]

Swap to gunbreaker bro

[worn bluff]

i enjoy playing all of the other 3 tanks

[uncut pebble]

green strike in m12s

[low hearth]

They lowkey made that job easy as shit to play 😭

[terse zodiac]

kind of a nonsense conclusion, jp has always had higher clear rates

[random needle]

I clicked on this fully expecting it to be another Cooly piece

[trim frost]

im ok with shake interacting with thrill/bw

with damnation its kidna sus

[terse zodiac]

better to compare NA before tomestone and after but even then wouldn't be easy to draw conclusions from

[jolly flume]

sigh

[low hearth]

Shaking off 40% mit

[trim frost]

make it shake off the regen from it idk

[low hearth]

What that mean

[worn bluff]

someone pointed this out and OP is ignoring them lol

"the data doesn't lie"

[jolly flume]

the only conclusion that can be drawn from this data

is that na blows ass

[trim frost]

i made the data the fuck up it doesn't lie

[low hearth]

You gotta wait for the plumbers to get home from the ziplock factory

All the gamers cleared at 4am

[jolly flume]

same with every other game ig

[low hearth]

😴

[jolly flume]

is there a game na is good at internationally

[grand mesa]

Smash brothers

[random needle]

*v*rw*tch?

[grand mesa]

[low hearth]

I had to fight for that m12s clear holy shit

[grand mesa]

Saudi and korea dominate atm

[random needle]

[grand mesa]

NA's best can't even win tournaments

gg

[low hearth]

Fucking healers keeping me at 50% health during super chain just to parse a grey

[jolly flume]

eu rolled na at rocket league and csgo and those are the only two pro scenes I ever followed

[low hearth]

[grand mesa]

I do this and get purples instead

mb

[low hearth]

That was crazy 5 people died to the 2nd to last Arcadion Hell

[jolly flume]

how do you like even get that low in superchain

[low hearth]

[worn bluff]

yes they can. just base your team out of NA but have 6 korean players

[jolly flume]

you're forced to tankswap halfway through

[worn bluff]

that's how OW league was

[low hearth]

autos bro 😭

[grand mesa]

[jolly flume]

"new york excelsior"
look inside
6 koreans

[grand mesa]

But did u die

[worn bluff]

actually SF shock was pretty dominant back in the day and their main players were actually from NA

super and sinatraa

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[finite plank]

what's SF?

Shadowfiend?

[grand mesa]

We don't talk about that other person

[jolly flume]

san francisco

[grand mesa]

I do miss supertf though

[worn bluff]

what happened with sinatraa

i've only seen him on stream once and he seemed kind of douchey

[grand mesa]

2021, abuse allegations, failed to cooperate with the investigation riot tried to do

[worn bluff]

o... i guess that's not that surprising

[grand mesa]

He's also just a dickwad

Yeah

[wicked delta]

stupid fucking bunny will try to clear today, can he do it

[jolly flume]

where's the femra

[grand mesa]

c4tobi

[worn bluff]

the stream i saw one of his teammates asked a simple "you guys think i should swap?" and he started yelling "bro no one gives a f what you play why are you asking"

just randomly toxic for no reason lol

[grand mesa]

Bro is high strung

🥀

[worn bluff]

i do watch super still, he's funny

[grand mesa]

I like him

[winged spindle]

WEAPON !!!

[grand mesa]

Nice

[winged spindle]

Reclear in 1d, I'm so happy, I can rest

[worn bluff]

the funniest "underdog story" was how shanghai dragons was the worst overwatch team and then everyone called it the biggest upset when they ended up winning the championship, but it was only because they literally replaced the entire team with better players

[remote gate]

youre finally free

[zealous meteor]

free? with a roll of 80?

not so sure about that

[grand mesa]

Team of theseus

[low hearth]

Congrats bro

[uncut pebble]

static

[low hearth]

Do I save my m12 books for alt job weapon or buy augment juice? 🤔

[zealous meteor]

oh

yeah

[winged spindle]

iLvl 790

[low hearth]

That could be you….

[winged spindle]

Did I improve my 55

[zealous meteor]

no

it could not

[low hearth]

Don’t underestimate the Arcadion!

[winged spindle]

No, 34 😭

[trim frost]

what

[low hearth]

What’s your uptime bro

[winged spindle]

Let me check

https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/MZG8nqhfLRJdaQry/13/188

96.7% I guess

[grand mesa]

You missed some opos

[rapid whale]

did u get defa

[winged spindle]

Yes

2nd defa

[rapid whale]

this dude

[winged spindle]

[rapid whale]

obv parse isnt gonna look as nice wh en you get forced downtime

[winged spindle]

[grand mesa]

Tbf

Probably could still be higher despite the downtime

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-chika-fujiwara

[winged spindle]

I still have EX weapon (I just got my savage one)

[grand mesa]

There's a lot of random 1min window with missed gcds

Okay, that definitely doesn't help

[winged spindle]

I'll see next week now ^^

[rapid whale]

this dude..

with no weapon getting like a purple would basically be a god crit run

[grand mesa]

I'd figure you might at least have tome wep by now

[winged spindle]

I did 52 on M11S... I could have more then

[low hearth]

how you getting greens with bis bro

[finite plank]

need to use six sided star more when you know you're disengaging for mechs

[winged spindle]

I did the bad choice of waiting my raid wep ^^"

[jolly flume]

yeah it's a big lack of six sided too

[low hearth]

Unless the monk players are comp asf

[vestal hollow]

meow

[low hearth]

[finite plank]

i got a 50 on m12s this week

and last week

[jolly flume]

lots of half gcd clips from just rolling a normal gcd and going back in

[grand mesa]

meow

[finite plank]

talk about consistent for 785 ilvl

[grand mesa]

Better to SSS than clip

a lot of the time

[winged spindle]

I was 785 too

[grand mesa]

Unless that clip is really minor

[winged spindle]

I use it a lot during M10S

[finite plank]

...why m10s

i dont remember a lot of disengage there besides arena split and bubble

and surfing thing

[jolly flume]

every time the boss jumps away you can last gcd it I guess

for actually disconnecting I can't imagine it's that useful in the first half of the fight

[finite plank]

sure, 1.96 is really fast compared to most melees, but i wouldn't think it's that long when they surf about

[winged spindle]

I never said I was good dps anyway
But I'm trying over and over, improve are really small but heh

[winged spindle]

I have 1.94 as a monk

[jolly flume]

improvement good

keep grinding

[winged spindle]

💪

[worn bluff]

i keep getting the same # in 12-2 but i think it's because there's not really much that changes with PLD

oh no i have to disengage during another 1 minute window

[untold prawn]

sigh

[jolly flume]

long live the king

[low hearth]

Heavy lies the crown but so says the weak

[sick dirge]

behold the essence of martial mastery

[jolly flume]

*or so say the weak

fake fan

[loud nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263264980481081407/1474923041250218094/image.png

[round burrow]

tyrant, my beloved

[low hearth]

[remote gate]

i have a meme to post but i fear that the mods would get mad if i posted it

[loud nymph]

post it anyway

huck them faters bro

[sick dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/ff14-lindwurm-m12s-savage-arcadion-gif-4410927480856506714

[remote gate]

ill take one for the endgame lounge

[random needle]

Wait what's happening, is the GNB just running off the edge

[remote gate]

yes

[quick verge]

they fucked up the forced march

[remote gate]

biscuit am i gonna get banned for my meme

[quick verge]

what meme

why is the broom bangladesh colored

[random needle]

Why shouldn't it be

[mossy eagle]

Reddit tried to convince me this fight was fun to help with anychests

Spoiler: it's not

[limpid edge]

why am i runnin m9s for some accessories

enrage

[uncut pebble]

sofia nightstar defeated for weapon

[round burrow]

i just realized the broom is Bangladesh colored

[stray forge]

I thought that was just bapl

[low hearth]

That’s a hard mech ngl

[grand mesa]

gg

[jolly flume]

body slam it

are you at prospect park or what

[limpid edge]

m10s lm down to 2m, damn temptin

[low hearth]

It’s tyranny time

[low hearth]

Join the m12s mercs bro

[limpid edge]

is 2 weeks of m10s in pf worth 14m?

no wait, potentially 5 more weeks actually

[low hearth]

No

[jolly flume]

that fight is 1 pull

[limpid edge]

not in pf it isnt

could range from 1 pull to... 10+

[low hearth]

If no one trolls arena split

[jolly flume]

idk most ppl ive talked to 1 pull it until 11 or 12 even

[low hearth]

Mfs always dying to air 😭

[jolly flume]

but they also have like 2 friends with them I guess

[low hearth]

but yea it 2 pulls

same with 11 if people aren’t half awake

[clear plume]

It’s really hard to wipe in 9

[limpid edge]

jokes on you i wiped on 9 three times

[clear plume]

And 10 sometimes you wipe to snaking or something but never like, struggle with it

[limpid edge]

just now

[clear plume]

2-3 pulls max since week 2 alts

[limpid edge]

m9s is unbearably difficult this time

[low hearth]

That’s a hard fight

[limpid edge]

i spent 33m on m9s for no loot. I dont know why i bother gearing alts

pf loot system is fuckin garbo

[low hearth]

it’s chill if people don’t troll vamp stomp I guess

there’s no real way to wipe I don’t think

[limpid edge]

today i enraged, hell in cell missed tower and sadistic 2 no damage

i refuse to believe this is the best possible solution for pf looting

[wicked delta]

this mch trolling my merc run

[low hearth]

mb

[jolly flume]

say hi to rin shinimi

[low hearth]

idk where people get all that fucking Gil to merc stuff man

[grand mesa]

@jolly flumebtw, ive been using ur logs to tell sch players they're having a skill issue

hope that's ok xo

[jolly flume]

lol

[grand mesa]

all these ppl really think they need to be maximizing ED's

instead of fixing 95% uptime

it's honestly impressive

[wicked delta]

mch couldve lb3'd and it would be a kill

[grand mesa]

gg

[wicked delta]

they decided to just

not

whole chat went ????

[jolly flume]

energy drain is a disease

[stray forge]

I thought ED stood for something else

[jolly flume]

that kind of ED doesn't raise your dps

[grand mesa]

ED

[low hearth]

Like m10s?

[grand mesa]

don't have indom

[low hearth]

What do you need lb for

[grand mesa]

succor to compensate

-220 potency

[wicked delta]

yeah

[grand mesa]

gg

[wicked delta]

well to kill boss

[low hearth]

Were yall at enrage?

I dead ass haven’t seen Ts since week 1

[clear plume]

u just dont know about the WK 1 sacred soil door boss plan (9 concits)

[wind cypress]

jump on after work to do m11s, 5 of 6 pf are loot master and the one without has like 1 person in it

[low hearth]

Make some Gil bro

[wicked delta]

i got paid

then i was chased by a half naked hrothgirl

[jolly flume]

?

[wicked delta]

idk bro

i looked at her for half a second n she got up and chased me like the fucking prowler

[grand mesa]

I should call her

[dull drum]

nothing changes for tanks between stampede strats

[low hearth]

yo @jolly flume

[dull drum]

we're chilling

[jolly flume]

sup

[low hearth]

u cant see a pfs entire fflogs until you join?

[jolly flume]

you can

[dull drum]

smile

[jolly flume]

cousin radar

[low hearth]

oh

[dull drum]

2 DAYS UNTIL I GO FERAL FOR GALBRENA

RAHHHHHHHHHH

[jolly flume]

the fflogs viewer plugin only works if you're in there if that's what you're using

[low hearth]

how i get cousin radar

[wind cypress]

oh nice, they have one of those?

[jolly flume]

dms

[dull drum]

i also dmed

🫡

have fun soldier

[jolly flume]

enjoy ur 300% improved pf experience

[grand mesa]

it's helped me dodge some sus parties at times

[wind cypress]

just loaded it up, nice 😄

[worn bluff]

it doesn't show all the logs at once though right? the radar

just names with links

or is it a different one

[grand mesa]

it shows logs for the advertised fight

that's abt it

[worn bluff]

oh maybe it's a different one

[grand mesa]

i dont use the logging funct much

[worn bluff]

or setting

tbh at this point in tier idc that much, esp for first 3 floors

can carry low damage people as long as they don't wipe us

[wind cypress]

joined a loot/c41, first 5 pulls were people wiping to trophy weapons - mm maybe not a clear ready party, broke up soon after xD

so many "need MT" for m11s, people want ot for dps parses or something? sheesh xD

[sick dirge]

c47

[wind cypress]

yeah lol

[rapid whale]

c4 stands for explosives

[worn bluff]

people are scared to do MT scythe position

[low hearth]

thats the easiest one bro

[worn bluff]

even though it’s like 2 steps further than OT

[wind cypress]

you have to run the earliest yeah but still fine

[worn bluff]

tbh i always forget where OT stands at start of arena split

bc i’m usually MT

i’m used to standing left facing boss but i think only kindred does that

[grand mesa]

I just want ppl to not prog lie

that's abt it

[rapid whale]

mb im new

[queen raft]

Prog lie?

[rapid whale]

when they join parties further than they have actually seen in games

[queen raft]

Oh

[random needle]

Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or Sapphire what she did in her first prog party for m10s

[grand mesa]

gg

tbh

if ur lying 1-2 mechs ahead

im probably not too miffed if u dont move around like a lost dog

[random needle]

(I would not have tried this if I didn't have like 2 or 3 other people familiar with the fight also helping, and m10 is also braindead simple until snaking so)

[grand mesa]

it's obvious when

people have no idea what's going on

[random needle]

It's definitely not something I plan to make a habit of doint

At least not to that extreme

[grand mesa]

don't join enrage parties when you're at the first mechanic

unlike a certain prange player that just got banned here recently

[remote gate]

my bad

[random needle]

Oh lord no

[worn bluff]

don’t bring your friend to a clear party that has never done PF stuff before

[grand mesa]

that too

u.u

[worn bluff]

and then talk about how generous you are

[remote gate]

cool-mint moment

[valid solar]

[remote gate]

theres only one pranged player I know and i know she wouldn't be it

[molten moon]

I swear that phys range player is now officially a NA cryptid

I run into references to them on xiv discussion lmao

[worn bluff]

i don’t know any prange players

[molten moon]

How many phys range players who call people parsers are there

[rapid whale]

is it bad that im unsure who we are mentioning because there are so many now

[remote gate]

do you know any prange players bapple

[rapid whale]

im a prange player named bapple

[grand mesa]

im curious

[low hearth]

mb

[molten moon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/s/5juxgVoD9R

[vestal hollow]

OMEGALUL

[grand mesa]

gg

[molten moon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromDF/s/YBUfKN4ejj

This one too lmao

I 100% know its them because it's from my friends

And I've seen the unredacted version

[rapid whale]

apologize to your dancer

[stray forge]

Bro really updated their post to be like “sad news they cleared”

[vestal hollow]

you abused youre dancer with hold 2 min abuse.

[terse zodiac]

lmao this is the person always whining about parsers? 😭

[jolly flume]

its mr parse culture

[molten moon]

The one who imploded in rants

[shadow pilot]

[worn bluff]

i didn’t die because i’m a parser i died because i suck

[rapid whale]

something something hanlon's razor

razer?

[stray forge]

Bro go back to school

[rapid whale]

no

[zealous meteor]

razor is the correct term

razer makes overpriced gaming hardware

[rapid whale]

im so cool

the rgb increases my dps

[grand mesa]

I had a mouse from them that broke in 2 months

gg

[stray forge]

Bro got rgb installed on the inside of his skull

🥀

[rapid whale]

yeah i heard the mmo mice are especially prone to breaking

the side buttons go snap

[grand mesa]

it wasnt even an mmo one

it was an fps mouse

[zealous meteor]

mmo mice are tempting but idk i don't want to spend 100 bucks on something i will use for ONE game

[grand mesa]

i'm using an op1 8k and it's been going strong so far

[rapid whale]

thats why i got a cheapass mmo mouse

it was like 20 bucks

works fine

[grand mesa]

mmo mice are too heavy 4 me..

[stray forge]

I used to have an mmo mouse and I mapped the side buttons to functions for vscode

[zealous meteor]

idk where i'd buy cheap ones

[terse zodiac]

razer mmo mouse is fine if you dont get the swappable side panel, if you get that one they break in like a few months

[zealous meteor]

europe moment

[terse zodiac]

there need to be more mmo mice

[grand mesa]

man

i really want to do savage

[stray forge]

Just make ur own 5head

[rapid whale]

i heard there was a legendary logitech one with a ring finger button

[grand mesa]

but my static doesn't reclear until later tonight

gg

[terse zodiac]

yeah i used to have that it was really nice

[grand mesa]

If you have one of those

[rapid whale]

i heard ppl been begging logitech to remake it cuz it was simply the best mmo mouse ever

[grand mesa]

you better learn how to solder

replacements are 200-300 usd

rn

[zealous meteor]

MiNE lhw time /s

[grand mesa]

i did lhw w1

[terse zodiac]

bind ctrl to the ring finger and just chill

[stray forge]

Jokes on u I already soldered my keyboard together

[grand mesa]

good

idk

[rapid whale]

oh yeah i bet my entire keyboard costs less than your keycaps

[low hearth]

Why do these parsers keep griefing my merc parties?!?

[grand mesa]

so many ppl throw out expensive mice when their clicks start to double

it costs so little to replace

if you already have the soldering equipment

[rapid whale]

dude my sora sensor stopped working

so sad

[grand mesa]

oh

gg

yeah

that's harder to fix

[stray forge]

Stella snora 💤

[rapid whale]

was such a nice mouse too

now i play valo with an mmo mouse and it just feels so chungus

[grand mesa]

apparently might be fixable by reflowing the sensor contacts

but

gl

[stray forge]

Wrong

[grand mesa]

i just use a wired mouse for everything now

[jolly flume]

spend the $2 and replace the chinese omrons

it's always the chinese omrons

[stray forge]

It was a gift 🕊️

[grand mesa]

logitech refuses to stop using them for a lot of their mice

[stray forge]

I got three kits as a gift and I only use one 🥀

[grand mesa]

op1 8k my beloved..

[stray forge]

One has mx blacks one has blues and one literally is sitting there not built

[grand mesa]

[jolly flume]

I haven't built a new board in forever

happy with my current one mostly

[grand mesa]

ive just been using a prebuilt keychron

4 years and going strong

[jolly flume]

I'm never buying white keycaps again though it gets visibly dirty too fast

[rapid whale]

I have this thirty dollar red switch keyboard. I've had toa few switches but they came with like ten extra so it's nbd

[grand mesa]

hotswap is nice

[low hearth]

These damn parsers bruh!!!

[grand mesa]

gg

[low hearth]

[turbid haven]

anyone have a clue when ff15 event will be back?

[grand mesa]

Who knows

[zealous meteor]

i use a wired mouse on desktop but a wireless one on my laptop
most mice have super long cables so you can plug them into the back of a desktop. which is really annoying on a laptop

[stray forge]

Events come back?

[grand mesa]

The 15 one did, onxe

[zealous meteor]

some

[grand mesa]

I think?

[zealous meteor]

fall guys is a recurring event
ff15 seems to be too

[grand mesa]

I wouldn't be surprised if they just gave up and put the mount in the store at some point

Though

[zealous meteor]

ff15 event has reran twice

[turbid haven]

I missed the rerun

[zealous meteor]

ff15 is a fairly well received final fantasy that's available on modern platforms
so i assume they'll keep rerunning it. it's free to do, gives players something to do, and probably makes them more money (through 15 sales) than just putting the rewards in the shop

same with the 16 event, 16 is the newest game after all

[terse zodiac]

iirc 15 comes back at the very end of every expansion so far

[zealous meteor]

yeah

[grand mesa]

Surely this time

Also

I need to open my ff16 gear coffer

I think my cat would look cute in metian gear..

[wicked delta]

good lord

[jolly flume]

can you please stop flaming my logs

[wicked delta]

we're cooked !

[jolly flume]

wai tthis goes hard as fuck

new opomaxx tech

[grand mesa]

They took opo rotation too literally

[wicked delta]

friend sent this log to me

people who havent cleared m9s yet

since week 2...

[vestal hollow]

theyve got the spirit

[loud nymph]

this dude is holding rof for 24 seconds at the start of the fight?

[vestal hollow]

thats what opener means right

[wicked delta]

yo is this zane

[rapid whale]

in zane in the braaaain

[loud nymph]

this guy is better than zane

[vestal hollow]

yes

zane changed his name idk to what

[wicked delta]

gulp...

[worn bluff]

I HATE BATS

[wicked delta]

pulling up splatoon for this one

[worn bluff]

i’ve messed up bats more than idyllic

[true beacon]

is it Ramuh

[wicked delta]

no

i got a guildhest cus someone didnt accept ll

lol

[true beacon]

still haven't unlocked those

[wind cypress]

ramuh in mentor roulette, rip xD

[worn bluff]

who would win

champion throwing tethers and explosions

lindwurm creating an alternate dimension

the warrior of light

a lil bat

[thin fox]

[wicked delta]

[rapid whale]

you deserve this

[wicked delta]

what is your PROBLEM

[rapid whale]

mentor

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/growtopia-pinata-gif-25606493

finally

[uncut pebble]

[jolly flume]

I kinda feel like playing 14 tonight

[valid solar]

if you get on we can gpose

[clear plume]

That’s normally how tuesdays work

Tuesdays are ffxiv day frfr

[jolly flume]

ogey

where we goin

I'm prob just gonna pop on and then go downstairs for a snack

[valid solar]

ok, lemme just finish this dungeon rq

wcould you hop on over to siren

[jolly flume]

shore

I have arrived

[valid solar]

im almost out of the dungeon

last boss

[jolly flume]

who let this guy drive bruh im gonna DIE

[valid solar]

damn bro is showing off his ult weapons gg

[jolly flume]

I was trying to find a good glam...

turns out I deleted parts of like

half my gearsets

so I can't even check them

[valid solar]

oof

well anyways you can go grab your snack now and ill post the gposes when im done

[jolly flume]

snackies

[dapper zealot]

Bro always snacking

[jolly flume]

lemon yogurt

yum

[thin fox]

how bout u get a JOB

[worn bluff]

[wicked delta]

I think im gonna see if I can prog some Tyrant tmr

[clear plume]

Long live the king

[wicked delta]

There were only reclear parties today

Reclear or fresh prog

[wicked delta]

My friend told me to hurry up and clear so we can prog M12 together

😭

[wicked delta]

So true

Its all weapons

[dapper zealot]

alright cute andy

[remote gate]

i watched a stream of m11s and the fight looks straight forward until its time for arena spilt then all shit hits the fan

being like an inch off your position can kill you and one other person easy from what I can tell

[wicked delta]

Idk arena split actually feels pretty straightforward to me now

[remote gate]

might be because the person i was watching didn't completely have it mastered

wouldn't blame him either theres a lot of visual clutter (and yes ik just focus on your mechanic)

[worn bluff]

simply just clear ez

[worn bluff]

i mean yes but also it's not that hard to stand on the corner of the marker

you just need enough reps to be confident in where you're going

[remote gate]

is it a thing that youre so terrified of fucking up that you end up fucking up because of it

ngl i think that was the problem i was watching

[worn bluff]

i don't really feel that way but i'm not a caster and i just throw the ranged attack bc i don't care if i get an orange or not

the execution feels scary until you realize you're just dropping 3 puddles and going to basically the same spot every time

with slight variation

[remote gate]

what about tank/melees

same thing?

[tulip wraith]

m12p1 done

now for p2

[grand mesa]

good luck!

[vestal hollow]

i have a job unlike you watashia

[rapid whale]

have fun

[vestal hollow]

damn is that the cooly

im a big fan of your rpr vods

[tulip wraith]

oh......

i died once and know where i trolled next week will be better

or i guess tomorrow

cause you gotta reclear for p2

[rapid whale]

P2 is unironically mostly a study check

There's almost nothing that's execution heavy

[grand mesa]

hi

[jolly flume]

[worn bluff]

for split arena?

it's all the same, you just have to get past the discomfort of throwing a ranged attack

tanks use some mits to help MT for autos (or don't and make the healers adjust)

[vestal hollow]

can u show me ur parses

[grand mesa]

[tulip wraith]

yeah we got through like rep 1 then ended for the night, but very quickly i found its incredibly easy to solve with a good amount of time

at least for healer, its just find your outer spot, then always stand left

very little thinking

[thin fox]

where the fuck are the shield healers

[dapper zealot]

mb

[grand mesa]

mb

[jolly flume]

mb

I was told to press buttons or get tf out of the pf

[terse zodiac]

man

[grand mesa]

gg

[grand mesa]

gg

[terse zodiac]

you love to see it

[grand mesa]

you know the job doesn't have skill expression when you can all 100% and get fucked out of a purple

a log like that used to get you oranges back in endwalker

[visual geyser]

Luckybancho numbers out and the game isn’t doing bad so the xivdiscussion thread isn’t at max activity

[rapid whale]

could be gear diff no

[rapid whale]

wat does this mean

[visual geyser]

Xivdiscussion is a hate farm Reddit is all

Usually when there is a luckybancho post there’s like 300 posts talking about why the game is dying and bad

[stray forge]

Mb I’m too lazy to log onto my 200 alts

[terse zodiac]

i was only missing weapon and 1 twine, i dont think 50% of people are higher than that but also i play sps so enough people might have just parsed better with crit chance

[visual geyser]

Goat

[gray zealot]

GIVE SMN AN AUTOMATIC REZ WHEN IT DIES SO IT CAN BE A REAL PHOENIX

[jolly flume]

[worn bluff]

ok anran

[terse zodiac]

only if it makes a loud cacaaaaw noise everytime you die so the party can point and laugh

[jolly flume]

they're already pointing and laughing

you're playing summoner

[terse zodiac]

i feel like they designed summoner backwards

why not just always have access to lesser summons and build up to a big summon every minute

instead of using big summon enables 1 stack of each lesser summon

[craggy marsh]

The game was never doing bad anyways despite what doomers wanted us to think

[visual geyser]

But midcore

[rapid whale]

midcore is such a dog term

[limpid edge]

midcore gaming

midcore is just where you are

[gray zealot]

REAL

[limpid edge]

anyone doing easier content than you are filthy casuals, anyone doing harder content are just degen tryhards

[rain geode]

Im glad every mmo has this conversation

[slender lichen]

is it normal on m10s for the OT to take both boss aggro during the last alley oop stuff before enrage

[rapid whale]

@dull drum

[dull drum]

uh no

[low hearth]

no

like both boss autos hurts a lot

[slender lichen]

thats what i fucking thought

[low hearth]

unless youre trying to position them at the end or sum

[dull drum]

not if you’re goated like that

[low hearth]

who tryna tank uwu

https://klipy.com/gifs/wongwingchun58-0af

[slender lichen]

thats what this guy said but that doesnt make any sense

[low hearth]

cause deep blue jumps away so people might lose cleave

both bosses should be dead right around then so it shouldnt matter too much

[dull drum]

yeah idk

[slender lichen]

deep blue stands in the middle of the arena??

[worn bluff]

can't believe this person doesn't do banana rep 2

[low hearth]

mb

[low hearth]

deep impact

he jumps away for like a second

[finite plank]

no, only thing i can think of would be tankswapping at the start of the mechanic so the bosses don't suddenly do a full sprint to the other tank while you wait for your explosion to trigger

if opposite to begin with

[low hearth]

USE Aurora ON HAURCHEFAUNT OR WE WILL WIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <se.2>

[worn bluff]

<se.1> feint weapons1 / Dance of domantion

[slender lichen]

hes gonna jump away regardless bc MT takes the buster???

??????????

the aggro is irrelevant???

[worn bluff]

well he does move after doing the first protean

but if OT takes it and MT has hate it's fine

it gets a little awkward if the tank taking deep impact has blue aggro, but still doable

example https://youtu.be/6g1OnjcWqUg?si=NTXyjvyeHJPgiV2W&t=552

[slender lichen]

what is there to cleave its not even a 2 min

[daring pine]

where melee dps

[worn bluff]

i don't think it's really cleave, it's just that blue will walk towards whoever he has aggro on (and that person will be at the walls to start), so it makes it a little easier for the deep impact tank to be away from blue

but it's fine either way

[flint ledge]

at the bottom

[dreamy whale]

I feel so bad lol

Hopped in high level dungeon roulette to get my blm to 98 so I could continue msq

Lunar Subterrane

Good thing I changed my name to Game Journalist bc I ate like every mechanic

[rapid whale]

Classic

[dreamy whale]

Was so embarrassing

Bapples hru

[low hearth]

like is that actually your name

[low hearth]

W name

[dreamy whale]

Think I might have to swap jobs

[echo ibex]

Meele machine broke

[jolly flume]

my knee hurt

[alpine plover]

ok so

we rolled

i still got tank

but then i rolled drk instead of pld

[craggy marsh]

I actually managed to reclear 9-11 tonight without issue

Had fuckass killtime for 11 but w/e

And got dd sniped in 9 and 10

[worn bluff]

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/uma-musume-tokai-teio-7

[wicked delta]

I got hit by the power of a thousand suns in M10 cus a melee died in arena split

I thought maybe he died to damage but no. Bro literally walked into the death wall

[rapid whale]

they didnt want to do it together bro

[stiff sage]

i spent 2.5 hours with one party trying to reclear m11s (because they were gonna pay me 3m) and we never cleared

changed parties and cleared on 2 pulls

sometimes the gil really isnt worth it....

i kinda regret wasting over 2 hours on a doomed party

[low hearth]

mb

[rapid whale]

idk what it is about merc parties

[rain geode]

2.5 hours is crazy

[rapid whale]

seems like a lower % chance to win

[rain geode]

I give a party like 3 pulls lmao

Maybe a few more if I feel they can actually do it

[rapid whale]

more or less the same tho its due to the nature of the mistakes

3 "i look absolutely clueless" wipes yeah im out

[stiff sage]

i really wanted gil 🙁

[rapid whale]

3 small oopsie i can see how someone could do that, meh ill stick around

[stiff sage]

i normally put up with them over that

honestly most merc parties i havent cleared under 3 pulls, normally it's around 4-5 but i really put up with this one because it was just ecliptic fuckups

[rain geode]

If 3m wasnt kinda no money

[rapid whale]

3m seems really low for 11s lm

id expect it to still be 10m

lowest 5m

[stiff sage]

noope, aether is all 1-5m max lm

[rapid whale]

wild

[stiff sage]

and it was just lm for the twine not full lm

[rapid whale]

oic

that makes more sense

[stiff sage]

i saw a few m9s payouts last night trying to pay 500k for full lm lol

[rapid whale]

yea

ppl r getting shameless

i mentioend it yest but i even saw 1 offering no gil "helmet ffa rest spoken for" and strats; 0 mention of gil

[stiff sage]

all the big money whales have their gear tbh

[rapid whale]

like ah yes please just give me loot out of the kindness of your heart

yea makes sense

i just plan to gear every role since i wanna do every ult on every role before 8.0 launches

alt jobs are gonna get relic/totem weapons tho fk spending 8 books per weap

[stiff sage]

i expect people to start paying better for lm around when ulti drops

[worn bluff]

tbh i don't care about m9 loot anymore so i would take any amount of gil

[stiff sage]

^ thats why i joined a 1m last night

[worn bluff]

i have accessories for one alt role already and don't think i'll go for any more

[stiff sage]

m10s i did a hand and upgrade thing for 2m payout

i have both and im a one trick pony so i just need one set of bis lol

[rapid whale]

i hope this next ultimate is at least dsr level hard

[rain geode]

I dont I wanna clear it

[rapid whale]

lowest of key i want it to be even harder than top but thats just me

[worn bluff]

idk if i'll prog the entire thing but i want to try it out

FRU PF kind of sucked

[rapid whale]

realistically i don't think they'll ever make a fight as hard as top again , based on the stories ive heard

[stiff sage]

tbh its my first ulti ill actually step into, i considered fru but i didnt like the weapons so i didnt attempt

[rapid whale]

burned out so many people

im thinking its gonna be seat of sacrifice weapons + whatever glow

maybe pure white?

[stiff sage]

yeah its likely that

especially since they skipped the ex crafted weapons

[rapid whale]

ye

[worn bluff]

those have good models

[stiff sage]

blue feather is likely next crafted weapons

ex crafted glam ones

[rapid whale]

im trying to think of what color glow it would have

white is alr top and we alr have 2 sky blue

[stiff sage]

yellow? but we already have that

[rapid whale]

saturated gold is ucob, pastel yellow basically tea

fk it we go full story change warrior of darkness and get black/red that all the goths have been asking for

[worn bluff]

maybe dual glow? hades + elidibus

[stiff sage]

id be down, my drk could use a new sword (despite the fact i still dont have it at 100)

maybe

[worn bluff]

red and gold glow

[rapid whale]

oo

[worn bluff]

yeah that model is nice

[stiff sage]

would be interesting if it was purple and yellow for light and dark

dont think they'd look good together but who knows

[worn bluff]

what if the glow has ascian masks fading in and out like in the hades trial

[rain geode]

this DRK talk makes me wonder if I should change my sword

[stiff sage]

id suck it up and do the ulti then and stop being a baby about pf raiding any ulti

[rain geode]

that could work

[rapid whale]

maybe they'll lean more into hades so it's like, SOS extreme weapon model but white base (the way fru was eden weap but blue base) and the glow would be purple/red?

ig thats too similar to top nvm

[rain geode]

Its not really being a baby pf sucks so it makes sense to not want to lmao

[stiff sage]

yeah, no thats exactly why lol

when i started raiding a few years ago i tried doing uwu in pf before 7.0, legit could not get into a party that could clear nails

[rapid whale]

bruh imagine the diff jobs have diff azem/whatever the fancy word for those big 12 people were

they would never since they do unified

[stiff sage]

gave up on ultis since for pf and i dont have time for statics

[rapid whale]

ulti pf is uhhh a time

you go in with the expectation, "alright these are the most confident players from savage"

unfortunately the challenge also went up so uhh

it feels almost exactly the same

[stiff sage]

until you realize the pld in your party paid for a m12s clear

[rapid whale]

mb im new

[stiff sage]

i had a paypal ulti raider in my m9s week 1 try to be fresh into a hell in cell prog, i still have them blacklisted, i shut off the game after that that night

[rapid whale]

idk

after enough exposure i kinda stopped leting it affect me too much; i still get upset ofc and will prob vent somewhere but like

letting someone else being shitty dictate whether or not i enjoy myself just seems like giving them too much power

[stiff sage]

its rare i tilt that bad over a pf but i got off bc i knew i was gonna be too tilted to prog any other party

[rapid whale]

to me it's like letting a bad customer make me think the restaurant sucks, just isnt fair

that's good knowing yourself is important

[stiff sage]

im thankful tomestone exists because after that ive learned to actually check if someone dies early first pull in a prog over something simple

[rapid whale]

yeah i would like to live in the ideal world something like tomestone needn't exist and everyone was honest but we dont live in tha tworld

would be awesome

[stiff sage]

i feel like it got worse this tier, but maybe im crazy

[rapid whale]

i think both extremities got worse

[stiff sage]

i feel like i say that every tier too so who knows

[rapid whale]

people being super anal about your prog was bad, like the whole 2% ENRAGERS ONLY crowd popped up and i think thats a first

but also people have more visibility on the actual prog lying eg someone in a previous tier you might have just thought, "oh bad pull by them" or w/e

[stiff sage]

yeahhh i learned those parties are traps, its better to get a party of players ready to clear instead of a full group of people who havent been able to clear over and over stuck on enrage

[worn bluff]

it’s ok i can be an honest ulti raider who still dies to bats anyways

[rapid whale]

i forget if it was chiyo or noble that said it but those parties were almost always a self report that they sucked at their job because if everyone was pushing buttons well those 1-2% pulls simply clear

so for someone to be stuck at that low a % usually means button issue

[stiff sage]

funny enough, for m11s i saw enrage twice, once at 15 and the other at 10 and then cleared so yeah they're normally traps

[rapid whale]

i was told this is an elitist take but a lot of ppl are getting carried by ilvl at this point

not you

[stiff sage]

oh 100%

[rapid whale]

sorry the timing of that sounds bad

but the point iw as trying to make was a lot of people who would not clear in the early weeks before book pity hit are able to clear now

making for some really strange scenarios if they r giga anal about 2% enrage or we/.

[stiff sage]

i know someone who currently plays sage, the fact m11s is so tight they arent clearing because their rdps looking at tomestone is around 13-14k which is under what a healer needs to be to clear or at least was a few weeks ago under the min.

havent seen them attempt since early last week tho

[rapid whale]

yeah a healer i expect to see like 20k

20k is good category

[stiff sage]

:x my first clear was at 19k, but you can clear on healer at 16-17

[rapid whale]

up to like idk 18k is "fine"

but 13-14k is unacceptably low

[stiff sage]

yeah i cohealed with them once, they were pretty much overhealing

didnt wanna micromanage them tho so didnt tell them

[rapid whale]

i feel that

i have the bad habit of immediately giving advice unprompted, prob makes me look like a douche

'oh we had an arena split wipe, hey so did you know.."

[stiff sage]

yeahhh plus they only raid for fun so i was like.. i will just let them keep having fun and trying ^^;

[rapid whale]

yea

idk its not like i get paid to raid fo rme the enjoyment is the improvement

but i understand for a lot of ppl its just a thing to do while hanging out with friends

and for those i can see why pf is especially grating since you take the friends out and its like why am i here again

[stiff sage]

pretty much, and most of the time it's because i just wanna clear if it's progging

i finally gave up on 10 i think it was and paid out because i felt like i was about to slam my head into a wall and i think it ended up being a one clear pull no deaths

[rapid whale]

Felt

[stiff sage]

i used to raid as a duo which made things a lot easier but whem it's all randoms you're at the mercy of randoms

[rapid whale]

I think I was stuck on UWU last mech for like IDK 6? Months and then a friend set up a c41 for me and I one pulled it

[stiff sage]

pf is always "my dead body saw 2 mechanics ahead of where i was alive, therefore I'm on that mechanic i saw while dead"

[rain geode]

I mean Ilevel gives you a lot more leniency to be sure but like you do still have to do the fight If your wiping the party to a mechanic every time your not gonna suddenly stop wipping them because your gear lets you hit a few % harder

[rapid whale]

I was like I THOUGHT I WAS THE PROBLEMMMMM

[rapid whale]

I mean there's errors then there catastrophic errors

In the early weeks any errors would probably result in an engage

[stiff sage]

nahhhh thats 100% normally the group if you're doing all mechanics perfectly and it's your team dying, thats what ive learned

[rapid whale]

Now they only have to worry about the ones at the level of the wipe

Melee died in weapons or something? Just wipe. Nowadays you kill so fast you don't even get your final 2min

[stiff sage]

my clear this week had us at enrage because we had 4 deaths, lol.

[rapid whale]

The margin for error is what increases with gear, saying it doesn't eliminate all possibility for failure is kind of a nothing statement

[rain geode]

Sure but I wouldnt say "having a little more of a margin for error" is being carried

[rapid whale]

Dude meanwhile m4s has double digit deaths clears in week one lol

[rapid whale]

It is when they wouldn't have cleared earlier

[stiff sage]

speaking of progging, i gave up on m12s p1 because of too many people saying they're act 3/curtain call prog and then it's act 2 the entire party duration

[rapid whale]

It's okay even in reclears you'll see act 2 memes lol

[stiff sage]

🥲

dont tell me that lol

[rapid whale]

Pf is a gacha

[stiff sage]

i know for m4s there was this guy who made the pf for duty complete and said he was an alt character, we get in and he's war

died like... 3-4 times

we clear

pulled fflogs because i wanted to see how i did, he legit got a 0

[rapid whale]

Yeah that check was lol

[stiff sage]

i didnt even realize that was a thing

[rapid whale]

I forget when skip rise became a thing

But the fact you can skip the big mechanic of the fight is kinda wild

[stiff sage]

found the screenshot of the guy's fflogs i checked after because i was shocked seeing the log at a 0 lol

insanity

i never did skiprise, i always had to do sunrise

a few parties i actually saw enrage for reclears

[rain geode]

Eh it doesnt feel fair to people to assume that they couldn't just by default especially since I feel like if you can hit enrage you can clear a fight

[stiff sage]

i wish we still had sites like we had for m4s that let us practice our spots before progging/clearing so it was easier

[worn bluff]

idk, you can hit 20% enrage on m11s but you probably still have a lot of progging to do

[stiff sage]

there was the cat sunrise website thing that let you move around and it tells you if you would die

[rapid whale]

yeah lol

[rapid whale]

i knew someone like this and they were getting kicked from fru parties when it was fresh