endgame-lounge

[thin fox]

and b4 you say switching will cause wipes: ppl already wipe to rep2

[sleek moon]

and you think they will wipe less trying to remember if its BC or DN?

and all for a 50% chance of not losing a gcd

[thin fox]

I mean I also like getting to expend less resources to move around

And keeping everyone close together for mit and healing

And not dealing with boss dragging

[sleek moon]

but everyone is together up until clone stacks

[thin fox]

Unfortunately I must accept I am in the 0.00000000000000000000001% of savage raiders who has the mental capacity to learn a fight via one strat and then reclear it with a new one

[sleek moon]

and if people arent healed by the time clone stacks go off idk, there are other issues at play there

[thin fox]

even when its reclearing with a worse strat in the case of p9s

god that lc strat was so shit

[dull drum]

it doesnt even hurt that bad lol

i just throw hoc on the squishy and call it a day

[thin fox]

any p9 lc rememberers

[dull drum]

if ranged side dies with 2 healers there just jump

[thin fox]

3 strats week 1

"jp strat" that jp doesnt use

[dull drum]

well tbf its not like this tier was any different

outer or inner markers for m11

💀💀💀

[thin fox]

m11 was not even

NEARLY

as bad as p9 lol

p9 was 3 completely separate ways of doing the mechanic

m11 was adjusting to a different spot on a marker

[jolly flume]

the clones always blow up in order starting from n/s clockwise

[thin fox]

like if you know how to do outer marker you know how to do inner marker

but if you know 1 p9 strat you dont know the other 2

[sleek moon]

well the problem with 11 is people using whatever markers they grabbed and not knowing if they were outer or inner

and then cue countless wipes

[thin fox]

I think I have both sets saved

[sleek moon]

in hindsight it's a funny situation

[dull drum]

ik snaking had 3 versions week 1

[rapid whale]

ive had to explain to so many ppl that outer/inner have an overlap so you have 0 reason to stand outside the marker, and should actually stand inside

makes me a little sad

[dull drum]

i mean bapple be real

how many people out of 8 can identify the marker set alone

[rapid whale]

me

[thin fox]

i can identify the markers just by looking at them

[sleek moon]

supposedly the middle of the marker overlaps both outer and inner

[dull drum]

i just do whatever the desc said

[thin fox]

outer markers align with the tileset

inner markers dont

[dull drum]

if its wrong oh well swap over

[rapid whale]

they do

[sleek moon]

so the real strat was "stand middle"

[thin fox]

i just stand on the marker and close my eyes

if i don't look we can't wipe

[rapid whale]

yea just pray lol

[dull drum]

other than that though tiers been pt lax strat change wise

CW was def more annoying

[stray forge]

i almost wish i couldnt identify by markers

today i had a group where i saw inner markers

and didnt think anything about it

[valid solar]

I dont need to identify by markers because I just ask if its inner or outer

[stray forge]

gg we wiped because apparently the fucking pf said outer

and half the group just went outer

[valid solar]

I need to manifest a shielder for this rep 2 prog

but val already went to

[dull drum]

whatever that uptime strat was for p1 m7 was so chopped 🥀

we had like 3 versions of seeds

[worn bluff]

i make a macro to remind everyone of the markers

and i press it when we're in the air

[dull drum]

toxic seeds, bilbili seeds, and then eventually locked

[worn bluff]

but if it's the wrong markers then gg

[valid solar]

I need to start winning some gear, im still 780 average

[dull drum]

780 you’re chilling tbh

source: my alt

[jolly flume]

you only got

checks notes

like 15 more weeks before ultimate

[thin fox]

i'm actually so fucked if i stop reclearing w my friends

[dull drum]

and technically you wouldnt even need the raid wep this time if you arent going hard week 1-8

[thin fox]

i only know melee rep1 spots

[dull drum]

since relic wep is like what

8 weeks after ulti drop?

[jolly flume]

yea

depends how early you care to clear I guess

[valid solar]

how many weeks does it usually take for pf to settle on strats

[thin fox]

usually 1-2 weeks

[dull drum]

im in an awkward spot where the ulti drops during like the later half of the semester

[worn bluff]

every time i've tried to do 12 with a rando PF tank it's been a horrible experience

[valid solar]

mb

[dull drum]

was prob me

[jolly flume]

ulti drops like during finals for me lol

[worn bluff]

[jolly flume]

but I have 1 final this semester so idc

project based courses go hard

[low hearth]

this fight is so hard

wow

https://klipy.com/gifs/scared-nervous-44

did all that for a 85 💔

[valid solar]

0.5% p1 wipe gun to my head man

83 and 84% uptime healers

[low hearth]

mb

[grand mesa]

[valid solar]

I was so close to redeeming myself from the grey of my first clear

though ngl with my luck this probably wouldve been a grey too because ppl werent feeding buffs or something like that

[grand mesa]

[valid solar]

one of the tanks murdered the other on the 2nd hit of the stack/spread mech

I forgot its name

[grand mesa]

ah.

ah

im pretty sure

i do more dmg than that whm

in personal dmg

[valid solar]

[low hearth]

i think u need fast kill time

[valid solar]

yeah but thats not happening in pf so no need to think about that

[low hearth]

My best kill time the fat ass main tank wasn’t far enough north for ravenous reach 2

P1 blows

[worn bluff]

mb

[grand mesa]

mb

[stray forge]

This channel is just people saying mb

[low hearth]

mb

[stray forge]

If I had venture capitalist funding id start a tomato supply chain to sell crowds tomatoes to throw at you all

[jolly flume]

meow

[worn bluff]

meowbad

[rain geode]

Meow

[grand mesa]

meowbad moriie-san nya >.<

[jolly flume]

sumimeowsen

[grand mesa]

nyaa

[rain geode]

Ni Meow

[valid solar]

[dapper zealot]

meow'lady

[rapid whale]

i heckin love tomatoes

[molten moon]

[thin tartan]

ok.

need ring aug

[worn bluff]

i need weapon

[valid solar]

what are we looking at

[thin tartan]

drk wep

funny shape

thing

[valid solar]

oh nice

lowkey

all the weapons from these three tiers are kinda mid

[low hearth]

Yo we see it bro

[vast jacinth]

I dont like it :(

Better then the whm weapon for sure though

[thin tartan]

is ass

[random needle]

Illegitimate child of the Buster Sword and the Monado REX+

[torn kindle]

My friend’s static has saved from M11S prog hell

Now I am in reclear hell

[clear plume]

I really like a good few of this tiers weapons, including drk

Most of them dye really well

[wind cypress]

watching hector video and looking over wtfdig on m12s looks confusing af (the alpha beta 1234 3412), guess I'll try a fresh today 🤣

[night panther]

The way I process this mechanic simplified it a bit for me. Basically check debuff, and just remember 'alpha out, beta in, alpha boss towers, beta chain towers' and that you will always break chains in number order, and always soak towers in order 3412

It seems a lot but once you've seen it a couple of times it's actually quite easy. Another helpful tip is to remember if you're a beta, your chain break and tower soak will always be opposite each other inside the snake

[thin fox]

now that I'm done with the tier I decided to put together my progress pulls

• M9S -> 57 pulls (4.8h)
• M10S -> 47 pulls (3.9h)
• M11S -> 350 pulls (31.2h)
• M12S P1 -> 100 pulls (4.7h)
• M12S P2 -> 69 pulls (3.3h)

because I cleared P2 on alt but started it on main my graph looks like I prog lied the fuck out of the fight

[dapper zealot]

Hehe 69

[zealous meteor]

350 pulls....

[robust shoal]

350 pulls m11s I would have committed [redacted]

[thin fox]

m11 was definitely my worst experience ever raiding in this game

that was over half of my TEA pulls

m11 is probably also the hardest dps check I've had to do in this game?

[visual geyser]

Make fight with 0 mechanics have the tightest dps check

[robust shoal]

funny thing is tyrant check is like... average for a third floor

people just can't stop collecting DDs in orbital and deaths in arena split

[tulip anvil]

how do i do orbital properly

its really hard to dodge and confusing

is there a right way to do it thats easier or is it just skill issue

[clear plume]

My fav is when healers do the melee dodge and eat a dd/death and it’s like brother consider not

[random needle]

The thing that works for me is (assuming you're doing the uptime dodge from Hector) moving just before the castbar finishes, then moving back to the original spot right after it finishes

[robust shoal]

depends on ping

I move as soon as his hands move

and I haven't been hit since first day of prog

[tulip anvil]

is there an alternative way thats not the uptime dodge, i dont mind losing uptime because im a caster

its too tight for me to get consistantly

[robust shoal]

yeah you can just look for a 3->1 or whatever elsewhere

you'll need to get a good grasp on where the boundaries are for the aoes though

[jolly flume]

long live the king

[clear plume]

You can go to the B or D marker (ew cardinal) and dodge the hits there

You get very easy 123 dodges

[tulip anvil]

i will try both ways next time i raid

[amber fable]

See hector vid..the way he told is pretty simple

Main thing is ping really

Like I have to move when his cast is near to end

To actually not get hit

[craggy marsh]

Deaths in split arena are starting to tilt me even if they shouldn't

[molten moon]

How good/bad is your ping? The timing to do the orbital dodge really depends on your ping lol

For me on 200 ping, I start moving after the castbar hits u in fury

[molten moon]

Idk cats, I've seen enrage prog parties hit arena split at 55%...

[worn bluff]

you forgot to turn up the difficulty slider and do early week PF

[dapper zealot]

Just wipe and set it to very easy

[worn bluff]

where’s that joonbob video

dynamic difficulty

[jolly flume]

I feel like thats just conflating people being shit with the fight being hard

the fight is hard but the check was far from unreasonable

[grand mesa]

I loved pf first week dynamic difficulty

(one bad player and you're enraging)

[jolly flume]

pf creatures when you tell them that 95% uptime is in fact bad

and half of them are below that even

my fc chat had so many people complaining about enrages, I'd open the log link they sent and there'd be healers doing 17k

[sinful brook]

95 is high for pf

[jolly flume]

[sinful brook]

Really high in fact

[worn bluff]

we cleared 72% and 84% uptime healers in M11 yesterday

[jolly flume]

this is why we need a live uptime meter

[worn bluff]

and 85% DRK

all in same party

[zealous meteor]

mb im new

[grand mesa]

mb im new

[dapper zealot]

mb im new

[zealous meteor]

wait val since when are you a mentor

[grand mesa]

This is what I get in m11, but I also hold swift just in case someone dies to something dumb

Uh

2 minutes ago

[zealous meteor]

werent you a helpful person until. oh

[dapper zealot]

Smh mentor btw

[zealous meteor]

so do you have access to biscuit's stash of bitcoin now

[jolly flume]

what stash

he spends it on arknights the second he snipes it out of this chat

theres nothing to steal

[zealous meteor]

oh

[grand mesa]

Not much changes tbh

But I do get this gradient in my name, woah!

I got this 2.4 omni set for healer but ngl

I might go slower just for the mp

Specially since I'm mostly playing ast anyway

I had to raise 2 ppl and then gcd heal a bunch to make sure they weren't low for a rw

my mp was in the gutter

[stray forge]

who's biscuit

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bisky-buff-true-form-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-gif-7405559404550217830

[worn bluff]

no one knows

[low hearth]

15k healers

[grand mesa]

gg

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-speed-tried-not-to-laugh-ishowspeed-tiktok-gif-10902436083761798311

[limpid edge]

we already 80% of the way thru the expansion? cant believ eit

felt like DT just came out

EW by comparison felt like an eternity

and i started 6.3

[tranquil fjord]

guys ive a question, how does m12s work when it has 2 bosses? for prog especially, lets say i get to p2 and party disbands, do i have to redo p1 whenenever i reenter the instance? is there any loot for killing p1?

[jolly flume]

yes and no

[tranquil fjord]

can u elaborate?

[limpid edge]

progging m12s in PF at this point feels like a slog. I dont even feel like finishing

[grand mesa]

you have to kill p1 every time if you want to get to p2

there is no loot for killing p1

you have to kill the final phase

[limpid edge]

i havent gotten to p2 in 2 weeks. I gotta get back to it

[tranquil fjord]

damn i thought theres a way to practice p2 only

knowing pf i prob wont be able to see p2 often if we have to kill p1 each time

[low hearth]

p1 is really easy

[grand mesa]

study up

[low hearth]

If you’re not seeing p2 in like 3 pulls people are trolling hard

[grand mesa]

the only parties ive been in that killed p2 yesterday were the ones that one pulled p1

if we have a rough p1 it usually doesn't bode well for the second phase

i feel like

[grand mesa]

studying hard will accelerate your prog since you'll be able to understand mechanics faster than someone who only starts looking at strats and resources the second they get there

being able to study will also be a valuable skill to have if you ever intend on doing the harder ultimates

[tranquil fjord]

only act 2 seems complicated but with practice ill get it in a couple pulls

i feel like no matter how much i study it just doesnt feel the same when i do it in the fight

for example arena split in m11s seemed way slower in guides

[grand mesa]

act 2 is pretty simple when you break it up into what each debuff role does

[tranquil fjord]

when i saw it first time i was susprised at how fast it went after baiting puddles and having to position

[grand mesa]

look at povs

cross reference them with the materials you're already looking at

guides can only do so much when they don't teach you what mechanic pacing will look like when you get there

[tranquil fjord]

i think its the fact the order of baiting towers isnt linear

3 4 1 2 instead of 1 2 3 4 or 4 3 2 1

[grand mesa]

fair

that's mostly because the towers give you a vuln that will eventually kill you if you go to break a tether unless you space it out properly

same with the tethers giving you a vuln that prevents you from taking towers until it expires

[jolly flume]

instead of thinking of the order 3412 all the time you can kinda just intuit it as the vuln you get from one mechanic lasting into the next set so you'll never be doing a mechanic in two consecutive sets, always one set apart

if I have a 3 my other mechanic is 1 set apart so it has to be 1

[tranquil fjord]

oh thats a bit helpful yea

i will also make sure to look at povs while waiting for pf to fill up

[grand mesa]

good luck

also

the outer towers that Alpha 1 and 2 take are also related to where the inner alpha 3/4 towers spawn

if alpha 3 tower is north on the inside, alpha 1 tower on the outside will also be north

[tranquil fjord]

is the order of the towers spawning always random? or is it west first east 2nd?

[grand mesa]

the first one spawns in a random spot

[jolly flume]

random but 1/3 will always be in the same hemisphere and same with 2/4

[grand mesa]

but they end up alternating in a pattern (i numbered these based on which one each alpha number takes)

so if im alpha 1 or 2 I always just

look at where 3 or 4 is and inference where to go from there instead of having to stare at the outer corners of the arena

[tranquil fjord]

oooo okay i wonder why this info isnt on the guide

[grand mesa]

you technically don't need to know it to clear the mechanic

I just find it makes it easier, once I found out it worked this way

[limpid edge]

how do i will myself to prog m12s in pf?

[grand mesa]

tbh

[limpid edge]

it feels unsurmountable

[grand mesa]

the only real reason to keep going is if you want to do the ultimate

[limpid edge]

cuz it's like week 9

[grand mesa]

though

[limpid edge]

i do hate how time sensitive PF experiences can be

[random needle]

I wanna do the ult, but like... I can also wait on that a little bit

[worn bluff]

it did feel tough trying to set aside 2 hours + filling PF

[limpid edge]

waiting for PF is a huge thing this late into the tier

[grand mesa]

if you're 100% confident on x mechanic, you should also be putting up a pf for the next one

at the end of the day

if you're burned out, you're burned out

take a break

find another hobby

[worn bluff]

it was easier with no door boss because you could leave whenever

[low hearth]

I think you need the weapon

[worn bluff]

you could leave whenever with a door boss but i feel bad sometimes

[limpid edge]

that's a thing, i dont really do ults

[grand mesa]

tbh

I did that with a clear party yesterday

[limpid edge]

so i have less incentive to actualyl get gear

[grand mesa]

but we were dying to stupid shit the entire time

so I think I was justified

[limpid edge]

but i feel compelled to at least finish a savage tier

[rain geode]

Drugs

[grand mesa]

do it when you don't dread the idea of doing it

if you don't ever do it again, it's fine

w/e

[worn bluff]

clear party is different i think. it’s moreso phase 2 earlier prog i felt bad if i didn’t stay full lockout

[grand mesa]

fair

[rain geode]

I have to will myself to prog m11s

[grand mesa]

I just don't willingly join prog parties unless its for people i know at this point

unless it's like

prog this mechanic and then clear!!

[worn bluff]

i was lucky in that i’ve been doing 12 as a 3-6 person group

[rain geode]

Although ironically m11s itself isn't what killed my motivation

[grand mesa]

is it having to do 10?

[rain geode]

10 reclears yeah

[worn bluff]

i mean if you’re not planning on doing the ult there’s no reason to force yourself to do the rest of the tier

[limpid edge]

i might touch the ult tho

[rain geode]

That and I got super sick for like 2 weeks starting on week 3 which killed my momentum

[limpid edge]

just to experience the first phase or somethin

[grand mesa]

you can always skip reclearing 10 if 11 is all you want to do

[random needle]

For me, it was really the first two weeks for me being completely shot and getting stuck with the nightmare people in PF

The number of m9 enrages I've seen... pain and agony

[jolly flume]

just prog now and do reclears in later weeks

prog is only gonna get worse the later you wait

[grand mesa]

yea

just give up the loot

do the fights

I cleared the entire tier on an alt with full crafted + ex

[low hearth]

It’s content

[grand mesa]

is it content if you dread doing it

[random needle]

Depending on my mood, I might at least try a bit of m12 prog tonight, though the thought of trying to reclear m11 this late in the week makes woodchipper sex sound appealing

If I reclear 10 and 11, it's gonna be Tuesday, maybe Wednesday. After that, I cut my losses and go on

[grand mesa]

just skip reclears

prog now

[rain geode]

You probably right I do wish I had some Gil and then I could just merc a glaze and be 100% with M10S

[limpid edge]

merc might be worth, what else gonna use gil for

[grand mesa]

reclearing fights is not a prerequisite to progging the later ones if progging is all you want to do right now

[clear plume]

If it’s just a glaze wait until off patch realistically

[worn bluff]

merc late into tier can be worth

[clear plume]

Even if you WANT to do the ultimate that’s easy to get when it’s out

[rain geode]

It's glaze+boots but I already have 3 books

[clear plume]

Then yeah, get one more clear and hope to win either, and if not, buy boots and wait for glaze it won’t matter

[craggy marsh]

The only thing that's actually important to get before the ult would be the weapon

[limpid edge]

do be glazin

[craggy marsh]

9-11 reclears are shrimple but 12 is the important one

[jolly flume]

if you don't plan to clear early you don't even need the weapon

just go get the last relic stage

[limpid edge]

my 9 reclears have been unusually hard

[craggy marsh]

Oh right the relic

I kinda forgot about that

[rain geode]

Progging a 2 phase fights sounds like a nightmare lol

[limpid edge]

cuz all the good players already got their acc early, im left with people still messing up hell in cell in reclears, like not even in the right tower 3 times in a row

[craggy marsh]

Still need to clear 12 atleast once which I guess can be a deal breaker for people

Since you need it for the ult unlock

[worn bluff]

it’s fun to jump into ulti when it’s fresh though so i want to make sure i’m geared for it

at least i find 12 fun

[limpid edge]

fresh content is always a blast

when nobody knows anythin

it's just fuck around and find out

[worn bluff]

progging while the raidplan creator changes the strat mid lockout

[craggy marsh]

Although it's not like they first 2 phases of the ult will be an issue with a tome weapon if you dont have a 12 weapon

[limpid edge]

ff14 despite having a lot of permanent content, the good experiences can be very time sensitive

[rain geode]

I'll admit my interactions with pf thus far has tapered my interest in doing the 7.5 ult

[craggy marsh]

This tier has been fun besides m11 pf

Idk what it is about that fight but pf cant do it

[worn bluff]

idk how dps checks are normally - fru was kind of weird because certain comps did struggle a bit more in PF early on

[low hearth]

get augmented tome weapon

[rain geode]

Pf can't do m9s reclears, thank goodness I'm already completely done with those

[craggy marsh]

Same

Im done with 10 after this week if I win my last tome augment

[worn bluff]

m9s reclears are always super messy but still end up killing the boss usually

[craggy marsh]

Ye

[low hearth]

M9s is dead ass hard bro

Vamp stomp

[limpid edge]

i havent done any morning reclears lately so that might disproportionately affect my PF experience

making them seem way worse

usually morning reclears are get in , do turn 1-3 fast get out, maybe turn 4 fast

based on my last tier experience

[random needle]

My schedule straight up does not allow morning reclears

[zealous meteor]

look at this employed idiot

[random needle]

I can maybe get 9 and 10 before work, but if my 9 doesn't go well, it tanks my mood for the entire day

[craggy marsh]

I goal is to clear the tier before march 15th

Bc after that my raid hours get drastically reduced

For a few weeks

[rain geode]

I have pokemon league Tuesday evenings which is a bit annoying

[limpid edge]

i think i have to do banana now

i dont see any prog parties with regular

[clear plume]

All the dn people cleared hate to see it

[jolly flume]

lol

[limpid edge]

and then banana people that clear eventually will be hit with no reclear parties wanting to do banana

[worn bluff]

it’s like 50/50 in reclears

[clear plume]

The people making parties for prog are going to make parties to reclear

Being not scared to start the party works wonders for the strat you want being what’s used

[limpid edge]

those parties are gonna be the less experienced gamers

also split strat pool, now less parties you can join!

[jolly flume]

I hate to break it to you but if you're still progging right now it's not because you're massively better than everyone else

just go join a party

[limpid edge]

parties take longer to fill overall

[worn bluff]

i mean people who cleared earlier also can get rusty from not playing the game anymore outside of reclears

[limpid edge]

we LOVE to see that

[clear plume]

Ty for wording this nicer than I had pre typed

[low hearth]

mb

[limpid edge]

less to do with me , more to do with the experience is gonna be overall worse for reclears

[boreal pumice]

why no 99 on mount madge

[flint ledge]

did u win

[boreal pumice]

[flint ledge]

SOMEONE got 60 mil

or a W mount

[boreal pumice]

host won it and learned it

[grand mesa]

mb

[flint ledge]

lol

i love my dais

peak mount

[boreal pumice]

im working on the grind

[flint ledge]

purple fart is less nice tho

[craggy marsh]

Yeah when it gets to the weekend it's not just pfs fault

[flint ledge]

gl fr

[low hearth]

when the 10mil m12s merc has “bc rep 2” in the pf description

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-zoro-brook-one-piece-gif-5376805

[rapid whale]

Merc been getting wild these days

[limpid edge]

get that gil while you can i guess

[rapid whale]

I even saw one that tried to claim lm with no gil reward

No I mean like ridiculously low ball IDK if they actually fill or not but the audacity

Practically begging atp

[low hearth]

long live the king

[craggy marsh]

Heed the call and wipe to the mech

[grand mesa]

hot take

bc rep 2 isnt hard to learn

[limpid edge]

less about the difficulty of learning, moreso i just dont want to be bothered

likewise lots of people think this too

if i had learned banana first, great

strat momentum is a real thing

even on the individual

[terse zodiac]

no way a legendary public sighting while server hopping

[worn bluff]

unfortunately a bunch of people will instead find ways to poke holes in the other strat instead of just saying “i learned one strat first i dont wanna learn the other one too”

i do prefer when PF is unified

[loud nymph]

oh I share a server with that person 🙁

[jolly flume]

wait he's so right

I hate white mages

[low hearth]

W.K.

[terse zodiac]

i swear i've seen him on whm more than any other job

[zealous meteor]

playing WHM is an easy to way to not get other WHMs in your pfs

[terse zodiac]

yk what thats actually a good point

[rain geode]

I dunno I'm starting to think the WHM memes are outdated I have a lot more of a rough time with AST in the party

[low hearth]

yea whm is chill i think

[dapper zealot]

It's the whm job if whm didn't want to be caught on whm

[grand mesa]

@torn mesa @rapid whale ty for the pump

I played like shit that pull too

bc its too cold in my room

oh well

[jolly flume]

oh they're not

fru pf taught me that real well

[rapid whale]

our killtime was dog

[grand mesa]

yeaaah

that

melee lb3 fucked us

😔

but i haven't had a pf with good card/div pump until now so that's still my first orange either way

[rapid whale]

i was cooking

and then

one of the last 2mins my pc froze madge

lol

[grand mesa]

😔

[uncut pebble]

oh wtf

how long during 2min?

[terse zodiac]

i love when people make posts like this

[low hearth]

parsing ultimates is so hard bruh

[terse zodiac]

the lowest on the market is 500k why would anyone just give you a 150k discount for no reason

[grand mesa]

its 525k

rn

[rapid whale]

?????

[rapid whale]

idk like a gcd

[limpid edge]

cuz they are graced by his majesty's PF prescence

[low hearth]

im hard stuck purple because the chud tank cant pull ifrit between the nails

https://klipy.com/gifs/anger-inside-out-4

[rapid whale]

so like 6s freeze

[grand mesa]

i probably will never try to parse m12p1 bc all the parse parties have ppl i dont like in it

LMAO

gg

[uncut pebble]

-1 subtractive gcd gg

[rapid whale]

dude

i joined my 1st ever parse party of m12s the other day

actually embarrassing

[grand mesa]

a friend of mine joined one recently

they couldn't get past act 2 bc people kept fucking it up for whatever reason

[low hearth]

are they actually a meme?

[limpid edge]

you aint gettin a clear cuz people dont want to be the sandbagger when they die

[dull drum]

if you’re trying to parse monkey 70 content i hope you have the resistance weapon

[low hearth]

oh the force a wipe tech

[low hearth]

i have it

[rapid whale]

the shit i was seeing was worse than prog parties

and it wasnt even greed

[dull drum]

[low hearth]

like u cant orange without a lil pad juice bro

[rapid whale]

like it was v clearly ppl just thinking about their hot bars

[limpid edge]

any hotbar gamers?

im def still lookin at my hotbars

[craggy marsh]

"But ACT says im doing this"

Yeah bro but our kt says this

[grand mesa]

i think

[rapid whale]

hot bars in your local area

[grand mesa]

fflogs induces brainrot in ppl

and they suddenly cant play like a human being

stop staring at ur meter and hit the boss

[craggy marsh]

It's amazing how so many people act like parse monkeys but they dont know shit about kill time

[jolly flume]

fflogs is a disease

[rapid whale]

i mean

whats wilder to me is i really thought once they got to orange+ they might like

idk be consistent and stuff

fuck no

[craggy marsh]

Nah

[grand mesa]

yeah

peaking at an orange doesnt suddenly mean that person is going to be consistent or good at this game

[jolly flume]

your ability to fluke one high damage run of a boss has absolutely no correlation to your ability to not wipe the party

orange isn't even hard to hit

[limpid edge]

they got to orange cuz they had one lucky run

[craggy marsh]

1 orange in a sea of green and grey is scary

[grand mesa]

mb

[craggy marsh]

Is okay that's me too sometimes

But we're competent players

[grand mesa]

well

its not quite that bad

[craggy marsh]

This looks like a normal parse list

[dull drum]

hardest fight is m9 no cap

[craggy marsh]

The scary ones are the 50 greens and then 1 orange

And then more greens

[limpid edge]

dont describe me pls

[jolly flume]

we gotta stop talking about parsing before i start agreeing with rin shinimi

[grand mesa]

LMAOO

real

[craggy marsh]

We need more cryptids called Rin

Make a Rin static

[jolly flume]

maybe he was onto something

[grand mesa]

no, they weren't

[rapid whale]

u ever sen lifetime gray/green then suddenly has an orange with ppl who they have never played w/

[limpid edge]

ngl i'd love to have rin in my PFs just randomly. He's a good player if he's not emotionally invested into whatever situation he's in

[jolly flume]

I remember checking an rmt site for parse prices once and it was like $4000 to 99 every fight in the tier

[craggy marsh]

Me fr fr

[craggy marsh]

What

[grand mesa]

which one

[limpid edge]

the gaslighting one

[grand mesa]

oh

tbh

[craggy marsh]

Who the fuck values parses that much to where they're worth $4000

[grand mesa]

he's not even a good player

[jolly flume]

idk theres a saudi prince or two out there

probably

[grand mesa]

though

we're talking about a different rin

[rapid whale]

sch player is a lifetime gray/green player and then, out of nowhere, is in a party with a bunch of high profile people and suddenly orange

[limpid edge]

which rin

[rapid whale]

sounds more like a pilot

[dull drum]

if slade skywalker paid me 4 grand id delete the doomtrain log

[limpid edge]

oh the banana one?

[dull drum]

ngl

im a sellout like that

[craggy marsh]

[jolly flume]

rin "parse culture" shinimi not rin "you sound like a cocksucker" karigani

[dull drum]

[grand mesa]

rinana

yes

[jolly flume]

two different people

[limpid edge]

iunno who that is tbh

[rapid whale]

isnt there also an EU rin that world progs

[grand mesa]

that rin is actually good

[jolly flume]

unfortunately he's british

[grand mesa]

at least he has a cute catgirl

[jolly flume]

I guess all rins need to have one major character flaw

[grand mesa]

and isn't a chud

man

what is it with casters this tier perma running blm

bapple might be the first non blm caster ive seen in weeks

[dapper zealot]

What if we turned chiyo into a rin

[thin fox]

valval

i cleared 12 yesterday on caster

[terse zodiac]

blm fun

[jolly flume]

I do not want to be a rin

[thin fox]

not blm

[grand mesa]

I'm proud of ya

[rapid whale]

val more?

[fierce matrix]

Weak mindset

[zealous meteor]

ew

[low hearth]

whats the content yo

[fierce matrix]

The Final evolution of raiders is rin

[dull drum]

i saw a summoner in my m10 reclear

first summoner i saw in

6 weeks

[thin fox]

I saw a summoner in 11

[zealous meteor]

i would say "i'll blacklist him just in case" but the chances of a world progger showing up in one of my PFs is approximately zero anyway

[fierce matrix]

How many parses does smn even have lmao

[jolly flume]

ok furin

[grand mesa]

we already have a good rin in rinon

we just need one more non stinky one to balance it out

[limpid edge]

what caused smn to be so unpopular? Was it picto and blm being easier and doing way more dmg?

[low hearth]

summoner players are kinda cool

[dull drum]

14.6k overall

[thin fox]

full job stats for m12s phase 2 clears

[low hearth]

"I was the 10th summoner to clear this fight"

chills

[limpid edge]

picto/blm being easier relative to last expansion smn alternatives

[thin fox]

this is total # of clears and not # of parses

to be clear

[fierce matrix]

Damn rpr is fucking

[thin fox]

# of characters with a clear* to be more precise

[fierce matrix]

Yikes

[grand mesa]

blm is the tourist job now

gg

[dull drum]

damn gnb has low # of parses tank wise

[fierce matrix]

WAR being lowest this tier tho

[limpid edge]

war is pretty low too

[fierce matrix]

[worn bluff]

i saw someone who had only 1 clear of m9 and 1 clear of m10 and they were pink/orange from week 1, no 11/12 cleared so far. historicals go hard

[thin fox]

pld is just so strong

[zealous meteor]

hes british, so i'm still not 100% convinced he's not a shithead

[fierce matrix]

GNB normally had lower parses at the start cause of DRK/PLD being best for w1

[grand mesa]

I just wish y'all would stop griefing my raidbuffs

[low hearth]

warrior 😴

[grand mesa]

[fierce matrix]

I expect it to go up in time

[normal summit]

damn, what's with all the British hate tonight?

[terse zodiac]

i wish we had a proper burst so we didn't have to grief your raidbuffs!

[limpid edge]

i think half the war mains turned to pld mains this expansion

[terse zodiac]

and so i could get dance partner

[fierce matrix]

Oh 100%

[limpid edge]

likewise half the smn mains turned to blm/picto mains

[fierce matrix]

Ik 5 WAR mains that swapped alone

And ik 3 SMN mains who swapped to PCT

[terse zodiac]

with pf ive had some parties where dnc calculator said i was best option on blm despite having sam sometimes

[thin fox]

I've been learning rdm this tier

actually kind of a fun job tbh

[fierce matrix]

3 of my WAR friends swapped during FRU

[limpid edge]

i like rdm

was always my fav caster

just never played

[fierce matrix]

Bluetooth melee combo

[limpid edge]

outside of like prog

[thin fox]

i was pld last expac and swapped to war at the beginning of this expac but now i'm back to pld/drk on my main

[fierce matrix]

Just be suicidal and play GNB like me

[low hearth]

isnt it kinda like annoying in fru

[limpid edge]

hector you dont sound british, are you american moved to EU ?

[fierce matrix]

[jolly flume]

war was so ass in fru

[thin fox]

gunbreaker is just not fun to me at all rn

[jolly flume]

by far the least played tank on patch

[thin fox]

feels like a complete mess

[low hearth]

bro i pressed every fucking mit i had and still died to the first buster

that job blows

[normal summit]

Yeah, lived UK for the past 15 years.

[limpid edge]

gnb still my fav and most played tank

i just like how it looks

[fierce matrix]

Nah it's goated in FRU, mit in FRU really doesnt require much at all

There is so much of a gap between busters

[zealous meteor]

i have seen too many british content creators randomly drop transphobia to not be wary of them

[low hearth]

i couldnt do the alternate invuln stuff

[thin fox]

even scarier: they might drop a food take

let me show a recent scrandle that pmo so much

[dull drum]

feels the same as old gnb mostly

[thin fox]

literally what are we fucking doing

[dull drum]

just more gnashing and lionheart 1 mins

[normal summit]

Fair dues. We're unfortunately home to a lot of ignorant people.

[limpid edge]

i dont think ive changed my gnb rotation at all since the change. Im just too lazy i guess

[jolly flume]

free, from the air

[limpid edge]

still seems fine

[jolly flume]

nice

[dull drum]

i mean it really hasnt changed much opener wise

[limpid edge]

just more lenient

[fierce matrix]

The only alternative stuff is kitchen sinking the busters in p3

[limpid edge]

cuz now i can drift my gnashing... without actually drifting it!!!!!

[normal summit]

GNB is more fun in level 70 content now

[fierce matrix]

Which can be a bit annoying for the somber dance tank

[jolly flume]

sinking somber was kinda shit on gnb but if you spent like 2 minutes looking at a log you could preweave rampart and camo WAYYYY early and still catch it so it ended up being fine

[fierce matrix]

I was doing TEA on GNB and holy its a lot more fun during burst but the filler is just soooo boring lol

[low hearth]

this shit

[jolly flume]

invuln pm1 was the worst thing to ever hit pf

wanna see me clip powder marks

wanna see me do it again

[fierce matrix]

You dont need to do that tho

Literally just do the one above it

[low hearth]

oh

[fierce matrix]

It doesnt matter

The alternative only is for people who actually dont want to do a dogshit mit plan

[clear plume]

The fru mit but good tried telling me to dismantle an untargetable boss

[normal summit]

I normally threw the thrill on the burn mark explosion but expected my OT to give me short

[clear plume]

Legit was in the creators DMs calling them words that I’d get muted for typing here

[fierce matrix]

Yeah with DRK its super free

[clear plume]

[fierce matrix]

Cause you can oblation TBN

Super safe

[low hearth]

that shit kills without offtank help

like 3-5k overkill

[craggy marsh]

A feeble shield protects nothing

[fierce matrix]

Yeah idk why we aren't invulning that but

[jolly flume]

sink pm1, c/o rampart + buddy explosion, invuln pm2, double kitchen sink and stack explosion

the amount of fucking powder mark deaths that can be avoided with this

is just

ridiculous

[fierce matrix]

So funny enough

[zealous meteor]

yeah
there's good people too of course, but i'm always a little wary

[fierce matrix]

My w1 experience we did:

Pm1 war invuln
Pm2 drk invuln
P2 buster DRK kitchen sink and war swap

It worked really well unironically

Tho it requires the MT to swap pretty quickly cause of the vuln

[finite plank]

i'd pick the vegan fish n chips unfortunately

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/caddicarus-british-jumpscare-scary-slender-gif-11005974491627920699

[worn bluff]

that mit plan should have just put N/A for WAR

[grand mesa]

pf is allergic to good mit plans

the fmbg ast sheet i still disagree with

[rapid whale]

do u know the origin story of fmbg

1. it was made by a dps player who didnt know the cd of supp abilities

2. they hadn't actually done the fight

3. infact they hadn't played in like a year

but for watever reason it got spread like gospel

[dull drum]

it said it was good so it had to be good

thoughts

[rapid whale]

real

its like when a strat gets called braindead or cheese

[worn bluff]

i don’t think fmbg is better but i liked how upset it made naur people that their mit plan wasnt the default

[trim frost]

fru mit but goofy

[rapid whale]

everyone just assumes its the goat

[clear plume]

Isn’t it made by fae fiyaa

Who is a sage main

[rapid whale]

wasnt that the update

i thought the og one was made by a dps player

cuz it had impossible mit plans like the cd's werent up

[clear plume]

The one fmbg replaced yeah

[rapid whale]

if they were used when they were written

[clear plume]

It had issues but saying it’s made by a dps player is factually wrong

[rapid whale]

my fault ive been remembering wrong ig

[worn bluff]

i mean it’s easy to get your plan shared if you get in early. ikuya isn’t perfect either but it’s just the first one that was shared around

[clear plume]

Idk why people keep spreading it it’s not the first time I’ve heard it

[rapid whale]

maybe it was one of those like, "this mit plan is so bad there's no way an actual support main made this"

[clear plume]

But yeah, Fae is a very good healer for early weeks

[worn bluff]

we’re doing a reprog static for fru but i wonder if we have to still do fmbg for tank stuff just to make it easier to join PFs later

[rapid whale]

cuz from what I heard they were having ppl use 120s cd's as tho they were 90s etc

[clear plume]

My static is so goated

[rapid whale]

is it time for some mayram

[clear plume]

Even better

5s with new players I get to shove onto adc

[low hearth]

#HECTORNATION

[clear plume]

And be their yuumi kitten

[rapid whale]

lmfao

[clear plume]

Static leader is a Lillia top one trick

[rapid whale]

disgusting

turn them into a rengar 1 trick

[clear plume]

They’re studying the season and learning dusk and dawn exists

[dull drum]

when are we having endgame lounge clash

[rain geode]

Apparently they're added voice chat for league so watching the toxicity get even worse is going to be funnt

[clear plume]

Nobody is going to use it

[rain geode]

I dunno I could see people using it to say slurs to get around the auto chat ban stuff

[clear plume]

It has a transcript recorded that’s moderated too

And presumably, it’ll require a honour level that slur users aren’t at

They already minimize the amount of pings you can use if you’re toxic

[rain geode]

So there gonna get more creative then just using slurs fair enuf

[clear plume]

That’s already a thing in chat so not much different

[true beacon]

It’s not gonna be 2009 MW2 chat

[clear plume]

Most people just

Aren’t going to use it

[rain geode]

It's just gonna be annoying when someone does yeah

[dull drum]

they already used valorant as a testing ground anyway for vc moderation so the vc should be fairly restrictive yeah

on launch valorant vcs were uh

[stray forge]

did u get called kitten a lot

[dull drum]

no

[rain geode]

Then again I guess it doesn't matter because when I play league the first thing I do is mute every other player.

[dull drum]

but the pings are funny

back in my day we had the fish hook ping

[worn bluff]

@jolly flume do you still have that clip of proximity voice chat in fru? i think it was you

[jolly flume]

❔

oh uhhhh

[worn bluff]

proximity vc makes everything better

[rain geode]

Proximity vc is funny but something I would only do with friends

[jolly flume]

/UnityXIV/status/1887962272859029925?s=20

bird website

💀

[rain geode]

Eh spamming enemy missing pings is funny for awhile but it gets old eventually

[jolly flume]

same guy also made

league pings for xiv

which I'm still mad I haven't gotten to use yet

[rain geode]

Ok spamming enemy missing pings in xiv might make it funny again

[worn bluff]

ty

[grand mesa]

Man

Pf a2c quality is taking a nosedive

I feel like

[dull drum]

we’re on what week 7

[grand mesa]

I was in 3 seperate parties for m12p2 enrage>clear yesterday and only one of them was competent enough to get past the finish line

[low hearth]

mb

[versed kayak]

damn I didn't even realise I got my last meso terminal piece yesterday, finally free from that dungeon

[turbid haven]

Is there a valid reason why they don't condense combo buttons into 1 button like in PVP? It would help with hotbar congestion for controller players, and would let them focus more on the mechanics so less deaths more uptime

The lack of simple quality of life features is a poison thats killing the game

[stray forge]

It would be annoying with classes like drg and sam

[turbid haven]

But you would be able to turn it off, so if you want it its there, if not then its cool

[stray forge]

[zealous meteor]

probably so dps jobs don't feel like healers

[stray forge]

I don't play with controller so this is a nonissue for me

[rapid whale]

anyone else get a bad taste in their mouth when the c41 doesnt even say ty and just disbands party asap

[zealous meteor]

imagine playing mnk and your rotation is 11111111111111111111111

[proper cave]

It’s a nonissue on controller lol

[stray forge]

[zealous meteor]

also yeah you can easily get 48 buttons on controller, that's more than enough for every job

[turbid haven]

It could just be for te 1,2,3 combos, to free up some slots

for AOE and single target thats it

[rapid whale]

the monkeys paw curls, everyone's 123 now has built in cleave

[proper cave]

PCT does that. But they have a lot of other stuff to manage

[rapid whale]

there is now no difference between your single target and aoe combo

[proper cave]

It’s a conscious design decision made by the developers

[worn bluff]

ngl i prefer separate buttons

vpr actually feels less intuitive to me with the condensed stuff

[stray forge]

Make everything like classic WoW rogue where you press sinister strike 4-5 times then some other button

[zealous meteor]

letting you break your combo adds a tiny bit of skill expression but that's enough to make the jobs more engaging

[turbid haven]

Ofcourse on PC its not as big of an issue

but on controller it doesn't feel great

[proper cave]

Use WXHB and expanded hold and practice

Controller is equally capable as KB

[rapid whale]

launch picto you would click off your 123 buff at certain points to produce more paint

[stray forge]

I’ll never forget my tank screaming in vc that his controller died during meteor rain

[proper cave]

[rapid whale]

How goes prog

[stray forge]

It’s weapons prog

SIMPLE AS

[rapid whale]

Huh

[rain geode]

To give jobs a bit more of a skill ceiling not to mention if you condensed some jobs down to main rotation as 1 button certain jobs like DRG or MNK would just actually spend like all their time hitting one button

[stray forge]

I’ll hit your button

[rain geode]

🤨

[stray forge]

😏

[daring pine]

condensing drg would be

something

because their 123 is actually a 1234 and there's two different ones

[worn bluff]

fresh m12 prog

still weapons prog

[daring pine]

it's all weapons prog

[rapid whale]

go into 12

[rain geode]

Yeah the one button thing doesn't work as well when you consider stuff like DRG or SAM or hell even WAR

[stray forge]

negative im tired of raiding atm

[trim frost]

handshake

i don't feel like throwing myself to the whims of pf anymore unless it's a reclear

i can't get stuck in rep 2 prog for another 90 minutes

[rain geode]

I'm definitely debating jumping ship and getting back to inferno attempts in runescape.

[rapid whale]

it is what it is

[trim frost]

carry me to clear bapple

one pull trust

[low hearth]

What kind of goofy static did you join yo

[stray forge]

thankfully one that doesn't watch one piece

😌

[flint ledge]

snek

[stray forge]

capybara

[worn bluff]

ping us maybe we can get a group for speed prog

[jolly flume]

meow

[daring pine]

woof

[terse zodiac]

speed rdm is surely an experience

lmao i was just trying to help a team clear necron and they thought

melee take the far towers for mm2 if their side isn't tank busted first

[sinful brook]

it plays

but you go mp negative super fast

even without raising people

[uncut pebble]

that's why high sps feels weird to me

beside black mage

where you don't have to worry about that issue

[trim frost]

uhhh maybe later tonight

[jolly flume]

you're mp negative on casters but it's kind of by an amount that really doesn't matter

given that your basic casts are like

300mp

just press lucid

unless you're at the point where you're legit 2.2x

then maybe you should be a little afraid

[terse zodiac]

im at 2.20 and having to raise a fair amount

its horrendous

[vestal hollow]

kid named funger

[loud nymph]

m11s my beloathed

getting there but aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[daring pine]

almost

[clear plume]

Halfway pog

[worn bluff]

soon

[noble whale]

@grand mesa endgame mentor i needs help

how to be good at game meow ?

[turbid haven]

I was watching a xenosys vod and saw use of plugins, I thought streaming plugins is suspendable/bannable? I don't keep up with the rule changes

[remote gate]

it is and xenosys is prob gonna get it

[jolly flume]

its bannable if anyone gives enough of a shit to report you and the gm happens to give enough of a shit to check your stream

[valid solar]

if you get reported and if the gm actually goes to check

its not like they go scouring for people to ban

[turbid haven]

Oh i see so its report based

[remote gate]

gms probaby not gonna waste time watching every persons ffxiv stream

[worn bluff]

i’m guessing the GMs don’t care enough to open up anyone’s stream

yeah

[remote gate]

they probably too busy deal with minami ayaka spamming limsa chat

[turbid haven]

if its a first time offense, is it a warning

[remote gate]

(i guessed that name btw)

[valid solar]

if you go looking through jp/cn streams every now and then you come across someone streaming with actual cheats like splatoon or autorations enabled, its kinda funny

[turbid haven]

splatoon is diabolical, as if the screen isn't already cluttered

[worn bluff]

that one group that botted their movement in raid i don’t think even got banned did they? just had their fflog invalidated

[jolly flume]

I mean what are you gonna use to report them

the devs can't prove botting

[remote gate]

what if its extremely obivous botting

[worn bluff]

ig it just comes down to them not caring enough to look into it

[jolly flume]

if it required a 10 page google doc with frame by frame analysis of an fflogs replay to prove that they're botting

[noble whale]

i think its more of a publicity thing

[jolly flume]

the gms aren't giving a fuck

[valid solar]

tbh I think even if they are obviously cheating if you're going around reporting random streamers you definitely need to find something else to do

at the end of the day it doesnt affect me in any way if someone clears with cheats enabled

good for them ig

[remote gate]

you didnt see that random input

[sinful brook]

a ClEaRs A cLeAr

[jolly flume]

a cope's a cope

[sinful brook]

Mb

[grand mesa]

press button very good

[valid solar]

never use gcd heals so you can boost your dps

[grand mesa]

Uh oh

[sinful brook]

Ok watashia

Ok Claire es

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-gif-25630068

[grand mesa]

If you put watashia and claire in the same room to coheal

I don't think you'd ever be able to clear content

[valid solar]

oh wait congrats on mentor val

now I can bother you in staff chat

[grand mesa]

Hi, ty

[grand mesa]

gg

[sinful brook]

💀

[wicked delta]

Collaboration from Hell

[grand mesa]

tbh

[wicked delta]

That screenshot is literally Satanic

[grand mesa]

If she played anything other than healer she'd probably be a lot less hated

[loud nymph]

is this that toxic yuri I keep hearing so much about

[sinful brook]

No watashia is probably male

[loud nymph]

their character is female though

[wicked delta]

Hetslop icant

[jolly flume]

hetslop

you are not real

[valid solar]

watashia is a guy, you've heard the edits of his rants with anime music over them right

[wicked delta]

Yurislop

Yurigem

[jolly flume]

press your mitigation in

[wicked delta]

Get with the times old man

[jolly flume]

in m11s or get out of my pf

[sinful brook]

Yeah the fucking my hero soundtrack

[wicked delta]

Im using new age lingo

[sinful brook]

I just didn't want to assume because it's 2026

[worn bluff]

wait i would want to watch this tho

[grand mesa]

I would too

[worn bluff]

just to see how much death there is

[jolly flume]

lemme see

if I can find that old claire es img from top p6

god I hope I have it

[sinful brook]

Also not today suisei

[sinful brook]

Suisei the vtuber being coopted by a pf terrorist

[grand mesa]

gg

[sinful brook]

She makes banger music tho

[jolly flume]

HAHAHAA

[loud nymph]

Unbeliever

[jolly flume]

just one of many

[loud nymph]

I also believe that

[valid solar]

that dosis was the difference between clear and enrage

[grand mesa]

gg

[valid solar]

[grand mesa]

Fflogs has rot that womans brain

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-tyrant-ffxiv-the-tyrant-cactuar-gif-1362467952614811666

[sinful brook]

"brain"

[craggy marsh]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G9AiXFYX0AA1tUs.gif

[wicked delta]

Believe in the 99 barse

[jolly flume]

unenh*nced