endgame-lounge

[grand mesa]

Or at least, not the traditional way

[wicked delta]

The queue doesn’t pop for 10 minutes

[grand mesa]

You have to find at least 5 people

And then just hard queue and do it with an 8 person party

[wicked delta]

And yeah you would need like 5 folks to be comfy

[grand mesa]

Thankfully you get scaled up to make up for the lower player count

But

Make sure you bring damage essences

Preferably one or two actions that give you more damage as well

[zealous meteor]

i'd recommend 5-8 people for normal mode
5 gives you maximum echo and is enough to clear IF most people know what they're doing
8 still gives a very strong echo and gives you a bit more leeway

[chrome pendant]

would it be best to try to find a group chillin in Limsa Lominsa?

[zealous meteor]

like, 3 people can carry 2 newcomers but i wouldn't go in with like... ONE person who knows the fights

[zealous meteor]

nah, use party finder

[dreamy whale]

Nah limsa people don’t even play the game

[grand mesa]

Open a party finder, then you can ask if anyone is down for it by linking the pf in shout chat if you're having trouble filling

[chrome pendant]

will do

[zealous meteor]

yeah you can use delubrum reginae here

[grand mesa]

I miss when you could get queue pops

But that hasn't been a thing since shb

[chrome pendant]

can i queue it as unsync'ed or no?

[grand mesa]

No

[winged spindle]

Guys, if I reach 0.1% for Lindwurm P1 during the last Slaughtershed, does it fck the dps?*

[grand mesa]

What

The log will only count any damage done before the boss hits 1 hp

If that's what you're trying to ask about

[winged spindle]

Ok thanks !

[winged spindle]

Yes that's it, because we killed right when the last Slaughtershed started

[grand mesa]

Ah

Fair enough

Yeah

I'm pretty sure you're aiming for early kills like that if you're trying to parse anyways

[dreamy whale]

Boo I have to leave for work in 10 minutes booo

[wicked delta]

just called a guy bald in pf

[winged spindle]

https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/VtR4WKfbZghwaHp9/1/169
24 on P1

I hate MNK now

[dull drum]

bannable offense

[wicked delta]

okay but hes LITERALLY bald

[grand mesa]

gg

[grand mesa]

To be fair

You didn't play perfectly

And this is pretty much a training dummy fight so parses are going to be competitive

[dreamy whale]

just unlocked the level 97 dungeon before I had to leave for work, almost at endgame

[grand mesa]

[winged spindle]

And now we struggle to reclear P2...

[grand mesa]

[grand mesa]

LMAO

Are you fake meleeing

[wicked delta]

yes

this is so much easier than ranged spots

holy

[grand mesa]

yeah

Wait until you see what melees have to do for ecliptic

(the answer is jack shit)

(they will find a way to fuck it up anyways)

[loud swift]

Melee uptime

[grand mesa]

melee players

[loud swift]

Me when I stand in the spot and hit the correct buttons

[grand mesa]

I wish that happened more often

[dreamy whale]

I think I may be too dented to play anything harder than blm

[grand mesa]

You probably just have to put in the time

[dreamy whale]

Maybe

[grand mesa]

Learning is a gradual thing

You do the wrong things, you figure out what's wrong and you try to do it right

Do it right enough times and it becomes a habit

You just need to be in the mindset for it and put in the time

[dreamy whale]

what if I end up being considered a griefer

Oh well ig actually

[craggy marsh]

everybody makes mistakes

it's more of repeat mistakes that become an issue

[dreamy whale]

Most pf Andys aren’t infamous so I should be fine

[grand mesa]

Most of the infamous players either never learn or fuck up and give people ego when they're called out

[dreamy whale]

Icic

[grand mesa]

If you acknowledge your mistakes most ppl won't care

[dreamy whale]

I was progging uwu with chiyo and bapple and I kept apologizing after every wipe

[winged spindle]

Someone die just after meteore and it caused this

so close 😢

[grand mesa]

gg

Next pull, surely

[winged spindle]

I hope

[remote gate]

you clear next pull

[robust shoal]

shoutout to that 5th percentile run I got with this xiva

[wicked delta]

just murdered a healer n ranged cus i forgot i was m1

[grand mesa]

gg

[grand mesa]

[winged spindle]

As you said 😄

[grand mesa]

[winged spindle]

I still don't have the weapon

they gave it to the NIN and then BLM

And no mount again

[remote gate]

stupid ass dps getting gear 🥀

[winged spindle]

55

[remote gate]

better kill boss faster for this on reclears 🥀🥀🥀

[winged spindle]

[remote gate]

🔥

[grand mesa]

do u have tome wep

[winged spindle]

I'm MNK 😢

[remote gate]

yeah youre the good dps not the nin or blm

[winged spindle]

I think it's because it's his friends since a long time tbh ^^"

[grand mesa]

Surely you get wep next week

[winged spindle]

Shall be me next yes

Well, I mostly do savage for the mount 😄

[grand mesa]

i like the mount this tier

[winged spindle]

It's beautiful because on both of my P2 kill

[grand mesa]

cute lil cat in the passenger seat

[winged spindle]

no damage down, no death

[winged spindle]

I prefer having a living creature as mount

[grand mesa]

There's one in the car

[winged spindle]

I would have loved the Lindwurm

Btw, what's the music with the car?

P2 or P1 ?

[grand mesa]

I'm ngl

I don't know

I've been rawdogging this game with no music since endwalker

[low hearth]

M11s theme

[winged spindle]

Oh, not bad

[worn bluff]

just play pld man. shit kt for everyone else = 90+ for you

[zealous meteor]

0.4% downtime. well there's your problem

[jolly flume]

HAHAHAHAHA

[rapid whale]

gg

[jolly flume]

just hit the 1% chance in one pull bro

luck is a skill

[rapid whale]

its the cny buff

the ancestors opened the leylines

[zealous meteor]

i got the first limited 6 star weapon in one pull and have since stopped playing because my luck can only go downhill from there

[jolly flume]

god bless hypergryph network technology inc

I haven't even swiped for anything besides the monthly card and I have every character currently available besides the current limited and like 10 6* weapons

[stray forge]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[rapid whale]

?

[austere jay]

Is there a preferred data center for phantom / relic content? I just started it.

[grand mesa]

If on NA

You might have better luck on aether during the slow hours

[austere jay]

Ty- Yeah aether seems good. Do you know of any discords?

Lfg and mechs related to phantom relic

[grand mesa]

Probably none for the relic, I'm sure there are some for forked tower

[austere jay]

Forked tower? Is that like POD?

[grand mesa]

If you say lfg in shout chat you often just get invited if you need a group for the CE/Fates

[grand mesa]

Closer to BA or delebrum reginae

[austere jay]

Oh ok.

Thanks

[grand mesa]

It's optional content

Specially if you're just trying to get the relic done

[austere jay]

Yup I remember DR alright

[clear plume]

Everything in the zone scales depending on people, so don’t hunt zones that are full too hard, especially once you understand the bosses and have levels, and early on you’re really just smacking mobs and doing it’s first quests for a good few levels

Once you’re level 7-9ish is when you can really get all the teleports and show up to every CE

[austere jay]

Ok. I’m in there as a WAR w/ mystic knight lvl 3

I grabbed all the teleports.. it was a lot of bozja type stealth

Thanks for the help

[wicked delta]

WK trembles

[worn bluff]

griefing

[clear plume]

Can’t believe you just don’t want to clear

[grand mesa]

wk had a generational 0 healing parse on every one of his m11 clears

I've had people coheal with me and not gcd still get more hps because their cd useage is better

[shell knot]

U guys give too much attention to a lolcow who keeps harrassing women in DMs and VC bro

stop talking about W.K.

[grand mesa]

there's nothing to do once reclears are done

but if he was actually here I'd just be ignoring him the entire time

[zealous meteor]

he could be any one of us

he could be you

he could be me

he could even be--

[grand mesa]

[zealous meteor]

[gets muted for spam]

[rapid whale]

r u an alt acc of wk

https://klipy.com/gifs/dexter-james-doakes-3

[wicked delta]

straight up draining it

and by it

i mean my energy

[boreal pumice]

what a succor rotation

[rapid whale]

of their aether

[clear plume]

No that’s my statics drg WK wishes he was

[grand mesa]

Keep him to yourself

[rapid whale]

dont deserve to clearererererer

[wicked delta]

this healer

standing on my spread spot

?

[grand mesa]

ask them if they want to kiss

[wicked delta]

yo this whm is actually moving like a terrorist LMAOOO

[grand mesa]

gg

[wicked delta]

long live the king

[grand mesa]

is ur group arguing in chat while the boss stares at u..

[wicked delta]

nah we were just waiting for someone

[craggy marsh]

"Bro I swear I was out of that!"

Most common phrase i've heard during 11

[wicked delta]

big fashion conflict here

[grand mesa]

I love when ppl fuck up and have the gall to bitch about it

quit the yappin and step in the scythe lil bro

[craggy marsh]

Idk why people need to take minutes to explain how they died and how it wasn't there fault

bro we saw you stand in the sword

just admit you fucked up and do better next time

[grand mesa]

Idm the quick explanation

but

[jolly flume]

thats broil 3

no way bro dug into the shadowbringers archives for that log

[wind cypress]

what are "clear for alt" groups? didn't know that many people run alts

[jolly flume]

50/50 chance it's an actual alt or someone's main posing as an alt to try to get carried

very easy to tell just check their pull history and if they have any significant amount of pulls or a linear progression through the fight it's bullshit

[wind cypress]

is it frowned upon to password check people in c4 alt groups?

passport*

[jolly flume]

you can do whatever you want

[craggy marsh]

aslong as you're not a dick about it

but generally it's aight

you wanna make sure you're getting people who know what they're doing

[wind cypress]

silently passport check maybe?

jumped in one cause there were more of those than re-clear groups and guy tyrant progression but no history, how does it know you're on the tyrant without pull history, or maybe they just got to m11 and didn't want to run prog 🤔 or yeah I guess a fresh alt

oh yeah says activity is hidden, okae

[wicked delta]

tankbuster shaped missile

directed right at my face

[jolly flume]

parry it

[sleek moon]

i heard this in expedition 33 voices

[grand mesa]

I tried running faster ast for the hell of it today

Never again

raise one guy, mp on life support

[vestal hollow]

[sleek moon]

wish my ast understood this lol

[wind cypress]

yeah I went to icey veins, said here you go - spell speed dps is the highest, me: cool I'll run that, meanwhile I'm trying to do prog early on and rez 1 person and rip my mana xD

I don't see how anyone can run that, if you die you may as well wipe, gl getting power back lol

[grand mesa]

fast doesn't even sim better this tier

[boreal pumice]

should i ress? no my cohealer should

[grand mesa]

the only thing it does better is have slightly better movement

[jolly flume]

you simply don't die

[grand mesa]

gg

[wind cypress]

I did like the movement for it though yeah, was super comfy

[jolly flume]

the only objective reason anyone ever has to play a fast set is when it sims higher and if you're dying why tf do you care about which set sims higher lol

its literally just there to push your theoretical damage and everything better go perfectly for you or you may as well run it back

[boreal pumice]

my co healer is this guy , but its drs so you dont heal anyway

[wind cypress]

m11s when the dps tries to scooch past your spot for proteons last minute and blows you up "my bad"

[wicked delta]

my healer kept smooching me

i checked

bro was just up my ass

[vestal hollow]

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-hamster-run-fast-speed-up-gif-21940488

[vestal hollow]

u hate me

mb

[boreal pumice]

so was your healer going to the wrong spot each time or just really clueless?

[wicked delta]

well like

way too close to my spot

so id basically have to pray to god that i didnt clip the mit

mt

[jolly flume]

meow at them

[wicked delta]

it was usually at its worst when they used their dash

and decided

yup

im staying here

brother MOVE

[boreal pumice]

healers adjust , wait i am the healer i cant adjust

[wind cypress]

whoever posted this, complete gold in my experience with pf xD

[boreal pumice]

like how just drg /whm get the stick for your job causes the problem

[zealous meteor]

now you know how it feels

[craggy marsh]

Tanks forgetting to invuln is the scary thing for me

Remembering to invuln is just as easy as breathing

[jolly flume]

idk breathing is pretty hard sometimes

you ever get a stuffy nose in bed

:(

[craggy marsh]

Yeah

[finite plank]

you ever get sleep paralysis just because your body failed a check

[zealous meteor]

don't remind me

[stray forge]

only like every day

[finite plank]

a shame you can't just stuff stiff yet small enough tubes down the nose hole

it can cause an impact and cause raised frequency of nosebleeding when done wrong

[stray forge]

would you say its similar to

a ||genshin|| impact

[finite plank]

do you have a nose on your shin

[jolly flume]

having an NPA in your nose is probably more uncomfortable than the stuffy nose in the first place

[stray forge]

Having an NDA in your nose

[jolly flume]

nasopharyngeal tube

it is exactly what it sounds like

[finite plank]

i'd probably take it if my nose was doing something really stupid

and holding my breath for 40+ seconds isn't making it open up

[valid solar]

does anyone want to do levelling roulettes for crystal paste

[rain geode]

I need to do my daily one but I assume you want to do a lot lel

[valid solar]

yeah but even if you just want to do one thats fine

uhh I think I added you

let me check

[rain geode]

Itll also be a minute giaus is giving me he blah blah blah glib speech

[valid solar]

gotcha, just ping me when you're out of prae

[rain geode]

wait do you have to be 100 to get piaste?

[valid solar]

I dont think so

[zealous meteor]

no

[rain geode]

ok transfering to aether now @valid solar

[valid solar]

gotcha

[rain geode]

huh guess I dont have you on my friends list

[valid solar]

probably just missed me as I was relogging

[rain geode]

ah there you are yeah shoot me an invite when your ready

[valid solar]

will do

@rain geode and my game crashed, brb

[echo ibex]

Man a person who parses but at the same time hides tomestome activity is the most sus thing there is

Like what you trying to showcase only "your best" in here

[worn bluff]

those are the people who parse specifically because they care a lot about what other people think of their number

[echo ibex]

Kinda sad don't you think

[worn bluff]

self esteem based on parse

[echo ibex]

Been wanting to join some parse parties because I want a decent number on m12 p1

And this guy who also plays DRG is just

Seemingly 24/7 refreshing and sitting on those

Get a life

[worn bluff]

does drg not benefit from late kill for extra 1 min? idk

[echo ibex]

Don't know details but I'm also not aiming for high either, just orange

[worn bluff]

i mean i’m not going for parse but whenever someone dies i get an extra burst on pld

[echo ibex]

Really also don't know because if high dmg output it just dies right in/middle of 2 min but if also get that last 1 min, bad kt

[worn bluff]

i’m guessing 6:30 is always better for basically everyone

but 7:15ish next best for 1 min job

i guess because drg raid buff it doesn’t help as much to get the extra 1 min

[echo ibex]

Wil see when I get there but again, my pink chasing days are over

[worn bluff]

i’ve been just trying to keep purple median bc it’s satisfying to feel consistent

but then again it’s not hard to be consistent on pld

[jolly flume]

one of these medians is not like the others

I hate doorboss I hate doorboss I hate doorboss

[worn bluff]

i think door boss is my highest median lol

[echo ibex]

You will hold and you'll like it

[jolly flume]

holding is BAD

kill 6:30 or I DIE

IRL

[worn bluff]

hold it’s good for me

ty

[trim frost]

how

[worn bluff]

-4 buff means full confiteor at enrage

[jolly flume]

if that was a 6:30 you probably 99

[trim frost]

ah

right

[worn bluff]

i don’t have weapon

[jolly flume]

7:1x still decreases the pot uptime you get

since its a 2 pot fight

[jolly flume]

neither does my friend

just crit and push buttons

also hes playing whm so it's kinda free but still

[worn bluff]

the thing that sucks about those grays is half of those people probably played pretty well but had less gear and bad kt for them

i think that was with a couple 775 alts. and 2 deaths

[jolly flume]

oh boy

time for week 6 of forgetting all the mechanics in 9 and 10

[rapid whale]

Up and down we jumping outta bed

Wait that means they were in bed together

[jolly flume]

[stray forge]

check clear parties for m11s

Barse, Barse, LM, LM

this time im really going to do it

[valid solar]

your static doesnt do reclears till the weekends ?

[clear plume]

one of those is my barse

wjere r healers

need a cute drk to put edge under battle voice

[shadow pilot]

put edge under battle voice

[zealous meteor]

bard sucks
98 on bard

i'm getting mixed signals

[grand mesa]

maybe i swap to whm so I can stop relying on my teammates for my parse

[grand mesa]

oh, ew

[clear plume]

its a clusterfuck thats cringe and sucks to optimize, but i just happen to be good at it

[valid solar]

reading the bard optimization google doc hurts my head

how do you even remember all that

[grand mesa]

just crit harder and still purple somehow

surely

[valid solar]

[clear plume]

remember all that? I just press buttons man

[valid solar]

okay github

[grand mesa]

gg

[rapid whale]

damn

[craggy marsh]

Bungo splatoon

[valid solar]

im getting flamed by github man its over for me

[stray forge]

[clear plume]

as long as you dont get decision paralysis on the job youre gonna do fine, the diff between a EA drift vs PP overwrite under 2m isnt major unless it loses you a EA so just knowing what kt to aim for is big

[grand mesa]

just roll ur goddamn gcd

[uncut pebble]

caught

[clear plume]

bard is probably the hardest job right now to play perfect, but its a job that isnt close to requiring perfection to do well

[clear plume]

u have bards with a 98/99 median and people that say they play perfect but cant get oranges

[zealous meteor]

simplified in 8.0, please look forward to it

[dreamy whale]

just did the vanguard for the first time, died twice to the first boss and asked my party to bear with me while I shake off the rust

Tank said I was covered in rust

[grand mesa]

[valid solar]

[uncut pebble]

bard optimization is too frustrating unless your a bard player yourself

[stray forge]

whens the bungo m11s reclear

[grand mesa]

ngl

[stray forge]

lemme in

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-atten-1

[grand mesa]

with how bad some pf players are i just wish they'd use a rotation program sometimes

mb

[stray forge]

thats what I'm saying

[grand mesa]

hasnt he already done it this week

idr

[stray forge]

WHAT

@valid solar

[grand mesa]

@valid solar

[stray forge]

[valid solar]

I was progging 12 so

[grand mesa]

[uncut pebble]

that one dude who was using autorotation+splatoon and still couldn't do exalines

[stray forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441502195379077170/1456804517382455309/01.gif

[grand mesa]

some people are unsaveable

[uncut pebble]

ee2 too i think

LMAO

[grand mesa]

gg2

[valid solar]

wait do you have the clip of the person who was botting the dodges but it didnt account for the party swapping sides

[uncut pebble]

i wish i did but i don't 😭

that sounds crazy though

[grand mesa]

yea

bro just stood south dodging his demons

[valid solar]

yeah its the fru exalines, the party had to swap sides but the persons dodge bot didnt account for it so they're just on the opposite side dodging nothing

[uncut pebble]

the gif of the mch in narnia during wildcharges

[random needle]

Lemme rummage through my gifs

[grand mesa]

yea

[random needle]

https://imgur.com/a/nSr7bPx

[grand mesa]

ty

oh right

it was that guy

[valid solar]

[uncut pebble]

dodging cleaves is too hard while 123ing

[random needle]

I guess you could say he took a polarizing path with that dodge

[grand mesa]

he

has the entire fight botted

so we was just afk the entire time

[random needle]

That'd be impressive if it weren't so, so, so deeply sad

[dreamy whale]

I lowkey still don’t like cast bars

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-cute-fluffy-tiktok-gif-16625987

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-final-fantasy-vii-ffvii-frog-dance-gif-15364967

[dreamy whale]

Ok bros I need ur help

[uncut pebble]

haiiii

[wicked delta]

hiiii

[uncut pebble]

:3

[grand mesa]

to🅱️

how's m11 prog

going

[dreamy whale]

how hard is mch

[wicked delta]

its all weapons memes

[grand mesa]

it never stops being weapons memes

[grand mesa]

uhh

conceptually

[uncut pebble]

hardest job in the game

[grand mesa]

it's really easy

[dreamy whale]

Cooked

[grand mesa]

you might have trouble if you're bad with high apm though

[dreamy whale]

No guns for moomoo

[grand mesa]

or have high ping

[uncut pebble]

yeah

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lie-on-the-internet

[grand mesa]

but

job is straightforward

[uncut pebble]

harder than dnc...

but it's straight forward yeah

[dreamy whale]

I am kinda stupid

[valid solar]

as long as you know the gauge generation and when to send queen, you'll be fine even if you just push buttons on CD

[grand mesa]

there is no way machinist is harder than dnc

[rapid whale]

nahhh swapping dp between bursts and 1min harder /s

[grand mesa]

mb

[dreamy whale]

Well..hmm

[rapid whale]

moomoo every job is gonna have its ez and hard parts

[dreamy whale]

I can learn right

[rapid whale]

if you rly want the ezmode job just play smn

[grand mesa]

yes

tbh

stop worrying if a job is easy or hard

if you fw it

just play it

[uncut pebble]

phys ranges are just easy beside bard

[grand mesa]

ik

[dreamy whale]

Warrior ez until I’m the one being expected to position garuda

[grand mesa]

but I end up having to pay a bit more attention on dnc just bc of the 2min

[rapid whale]

just be a drk main and claim the OT spot every time

[uncut pebble]

i feel that

[dreamy whale]

Lel

[wicked delta]

clown who may have to gear melee bc nobody wants to play melee (its me) (i am the clown)

[dreamy whale]

Mch cool I will put in the time to learn methinks

[rapid whale]

but yea i second val's motion of ignore the job's difficulty as a deciding factor on what u wanna main

[uncut pebble]

i just wish there was something else going on beside esprit/fans but high skill ceiling mch is simpler if you know the fight honestly

[dreamy whale]

I wanna use the guns and the robots

[rapid whale]

if the job fantasy speaks to u, go for it

[uncut pebble]

less to worry about during burst

[grand mesa]

brother

just play mch

stop worrying about it

[dreamy whale]

Thats what I was gonna do

[grand mesa]

you'll find out if you find it hard or don't like it eventually

[dreamy whale]

I was saying I was gonna learnge

[grand mesa]

fair enough

[rapid whale]

someone on a job they actively wanna get better at >> meta slave who hates their job any day

[wicked delta]

mch's rotation doesnt really change w/ fight unless you opti iirc

[uncut pebble]

mb

[grand mesa]

im just saying that i think ur worrying about difficulty a bit too much

[rapid whale]

see: healers forced to heal for statics and then do dogshit job cuz they wanted to play caster instead

[grand mesa]

even if smth is difficult most people will find a way to learn it with enough effort if you find it fun

[rapid whale]

yea

[uncut pebble]

mhm

[dreamy whale]

Oh yeah I get worried about difficulty bc I’m hard on myself

[grand mesa]

stop mentally booming

[rapid whale]

i mean

imma be so fr

[dreamy whale]

John moomoo mental stack

[grand mesa]

its fine to set yourself to higher standards

[rapid whale]

you're gonna be dogshit compared to true opti of any job no matter wat u pick, that's just how ffxiv is

[dreamy whale]

O true

[trim frost]

im really bad about memorizing queen schedule lmao

[dreamy whale]

W bapples

[rapid whale]

nobody is expecting you to be a 100 parser first time

[grand mesa]

just roll ur gcd and do the mechanics

[dreamy whale]

I am a proponent of the “press what feels right” strategy

[rapid whale]

mch has the benefit of

no buffs so

[dreamy whale]

Yeees

[rapid whale]

your parse is solely a result of your gear + skill

[shadow pilot]

gee see deez

[trim frost]

i mean "what feels right" will get you pretty far with mch at a base level lol

press ur gcds without overcapping

win

[uncut pebble]

this

[rapid whale]

main rule is just dont hypercharge before a tool is about to come off cd

[valid solar]

8s left on CD = no hyper charge

[trim frost]

thats what i think about too yeah

[dreamy whale]

[rapid whale]

mf is doing anything other than finishing msq

[dreamy whale]

Lmao

[grand mesa]

LMAO

[valid solar]

• save a second drill for 2m
• save 50 heat gauge for 2m
• use queens correctly so you have 100 Guage queen for 2m

If you do these three things you will still get at least a blue if you're geared

[trim frost]

oh bruh ur not even at a level where you need to think about mch opti

[uncut pebble]

• 2 queens outside of burst then build ~80 or above before 2 minute (by rolling your gcd)

[grand mesa]

just roll ur gcd

ull be fine

[trim frost]

its like identical to melee jobs

[dreamy whale]

Oh I wasn’t worried about like giga optimization I just don’t want to be a burden to my pfbros

[trim frost]

ur level 58

[dreamy whale]

Ik

[trim frost]

what pfbros are you encountering

[grand mesa]

he probably meant when he

max lvl'ed

ig

[rapid whale]

im sry ur playing mch

[dreamy whale]

The hypothetical ones at lvl 100

[rapid whale]

ur already a burden to pf bros /sarcasm

[grand mesa]

as long as ur rolling ur gcd and not overcapping or drifting on things ull be fine

[uncut pebble]

mean..

[grand mesa]

tbh

ive had more dncs be dead weight than mchs this tier

[rapid whale]

with gear nowadays shouldnt be an issue

yeah

[dreamy whale]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-nurse-britney-12-hours-after-my-shift-confused-nurse-gif-8510731316571023365

[grand mesa]

just roll ur gcd

[rapid whale]

dnc has the whm/smn effect for sure

[trim frost]

you getting anxious about people that don't even exist bruh

cmon

[dreamy whale]

Lmaoo

[grand mesa]

just press the buttons

[uncut pebble]

same

[dreamy whale]

Just ask bapples I was a wreck in uwu the first time

[grand mesa]

im still traumatized by my 93% uptime dnc in week 1

[rapid whale]

i mean

we expected it to be bad

we just went in to guarantee 1 less person flaming u

[grand mesa]

u were new

it's fine

w/e

[rapid whale]

msq andies underestimate high end content all the time

[dreamy whale]

my most recent log is 52% uptime on ninja

[rapid whale]

see: m10s prog parties

[grand mesa]

just press more buttons next time

[dreamy whale]

Truege

[grand mesa]

ull be fine

[dreamy whale]

Hey how do I get the purple t rex mount

[uncut pebble]

this is your rotation on mch

[trim frost]

eureka

[stray forge]

falsege

[trim frost]

anemos

[uncut pebble]

it's from occult lock boxes too no?

[trim frost]

im so gcd pilled that i don't think i ever drop below 95% these days unless im dead

[trim frost]

yeah maybe

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-bunny-bunny-bunny-bunny-bunny-bunny-bunny-bunny-gif-7622865917721946684

[trim frost]

i get kinda mad at shit like ss2 because tab targeting hates me when i'm trying to switch to flail

so that's like the one point i can lose a not insignificant amount of gcd uptime

thanks game

[uncut pebble]

you could use enmity list

i have to do that in tea

[trim frost]

i could

but i would prefer to be able to smack the thing at 0s

[uncut pebble]

because tab target priority is kinda dumb

[uncut pebble]

yeah..

[rapid whale]

bro hell in a cell

[trim frost]

also i lowk forget where my mouse is sometimes even though i have the mouse location pinger thing bound to middle mouse

hell in a cell also has this problem

[rapid whale]

for whatever reason the tab target never targets the jail im actually in

[trim frost]

no literally

that one i think i actually have to click on the enemy itself

[rapid whale]

yea

cuz lol emnity list all same name xdd

[grand mesa]

i never have issue with hell in a cell

[trim frost]

and then i accidentally drag click and it moves the camera instead of targeting

:)

:)

[grand mesa]

but i have tab target only work in a cone in front of me

[rapid whale]

i unironically use a swift motif so that it becomes targetable while the gcd rolling

so that i dont lose uptime

[trim frost]

ur so smart

[grand mesa]

idk why you guys are struggling this hard..

[rapid whale]

skill issue idk

[grand mesa]

can we

[trim frost]

because final fantasy fourteen is homophobic

[grand mesa]

compare targeting settings

[rapid whale]

idk where to find that

[trim frost]

im pretty sure i have cone targeting on too

it just

idk

i press tab and nothing happens

[stray forge]

everyone I know in ffxiv and my gacha friends are all asian

[trim frost]

🧍‍♂️

[grand mesa]

its in

[stray forge]

how did this happen

[grand mesa]

character config

im pretty srue

[dreamy whale]

Mch is a bust I forgot ping too high to weave gauss/ricochet between heat blasts

[rapid whale]

ur racist hope this helped

[grand mesa]

i'm sorry i'm filipino.

[grand mesa]

console?

[uncut pebble]

i think it might just hate taiwanese people

[rapid whale]

are u not continental us?

[dreamy whale]

Ye console and im east coast

[grand mesa]

ah 😔

[rapid whale]

i thought east coast could play mch

or does console make it even more jank

[stray forge]

my static feels like all white canadians

[dreamy whale]

Maybe console issue

[uncut pebble]

console makes it a little awkward

i think @ocean valley can vouch

[stray forge]

bapple feels canadian

[rapid whale]

icic

?????????

[stray forge]

what are ur thoughts on poutine

[rapid whale]

im los angeles born and raised

[stray forge]

EW

blocked

[grand mesa]

i think this is the important bit

[rapid whale]

naw u hate the transplants

ppl born here r chill

its the people who come here thinking they are gonna become famous that r cringe

[jolly flume]

big if true

[grand mesa]

is it alr locked in

[stray forge]

not 67 🥀

[grand mesa]

its going to lock into 68 🥀

[jolly flume]

no 🥀

[grand mesa]

@trim frost

[stray forge]

🎋

[grand mesa]

face the thing

press tab

i target it

[stray forge]

I thought cone was default

is it not

[grand mesa]

idk man

[wicked delta]

at least you're not a new yorker

[rapid whale]

@grand mesa bored?

[wicked delta]

otherwise id have to block you

[rapid whale]

m11s 7/8 needs pure

[stray forge]

bapl

[grand mesa]

too exhausted to pf rn unfortunately

[stray forge]

do you live

[rapid whale]

oka oka

[stray forge]

in freakin m11s

[grand mesa]

turned down helping wifey with m12 tonight 😔

[rapid whale]

its the fight ppl ask for help the most

[grand mesa]

bapl is freeing terrorists 🥀

jk

[stray forge]

ur not wrong

i am queen of the pf terrorists

[dreamy whale]

Nvm i was pressing button too slow

[grand mesa]

case solved

[rapid whale]

yeah u can queue buttons about half a second ahead of time

so mash ts out of the button as its about to come off

[grand mesa]

you can pretty much press the ogcd right after u press the hypercharge gcd

[rapid whale]

ah yeah and if its during hypercharge u can only single weave

thats not a console/pc thing just periodt

[dreamy whale]

Ok I lied again

[rapid whale]

y u always lying

[dreamy whale]

It decides randomly if it wants to let me weave

[grand mesa]

are u accidentally

trying to weave 2 things at once

[dreamy whale]

Nohg

I think

My fault for being moved to the east coast at 2 years old

[valid solar]

Do you have either xivalexander or noclippy

If not get one of the two

[dreamy whale]

Console

[valid solar]

gg

[dreamy whale]

Wait

Wtf

[grand obsidian]

hey do u guys have any rotation tips

[jolly flume]

yeah try playing genshin impact

[dreamy whale]

Ok I can weave it

[grand obsidian]

this has me crying

[dreamy whale]

Im just stupid and cant press buttons fast enough

[valid solar]

If you don't already I'd definitely recommend having the two ogcds and heat blast on the same cross hotbar so you don't need to change to hit them

[valid solar]

What mech is she on

[grand mesa]

they're uhh

trying to get to p2 fresh

watched them do a bit in pf and parties have been horrid

[valid solar]

walking into pf knowing we're going to wipe to act 2 for 20 minutes before we disband

[dreamy whale]

i put heat blast with everything else so hopefully I can do it more consistently

[grand mesa]

mmh

maybe one hand on heat blast and the other for the ogcds?

[dreamy whale]

That’s how it was before

[grand mesa]

fair

whatever works

[valid solar]

By keeping them all on the same cross hotbar it means the left hand is free to move while the right hand does the burst, which imo is easier

[dreamy whale]

Was like this

[grand mesa]

hm

makes sense

ive never controller'd before

[dreamy whale]

Wait I can make ot better

[valid solar]

Oh okay so then to clarify how controller works is that you use combinations of the trigger buttons to access the different hotbars

And then the right hand and left hand face buttons to use skills,

The issue is, unlike on a keyboard and mouse you can't use the left joystick to move while also pushing the left face buttons, so anything that needs fast weaving absolutely should be on the right side, so you can still do movement while using them

[grand mesa]

yea

well

you can

it's just not ergonomically viable

[valid solar]

Yeah if you use that weird ass grip position

The legendary armored core grip

It's so cursed

[dreamy whale]

In theory this should work

[stray forge]

putting KBM only in all of my pf descriptions

[dreamy whale]

Have my 123 on L2+face and my burst on R2+face

[grand mesa]

gg

[grand mesa]

@valid solar im talking about this grip

only really works on xbox layout

[dreamy whale]

I like blm I just don’t like cast bars I think

[valid solar]

Btw if you need a pranged fill just lemme know, if me and bapple are both available I can just dp him again so we don't enrage

[grand mesa]

probably no more m12 tonight

[stray forge]

D....P?....

[grand mesa]

but

maybe in the future

[dreamy whale]

[valid solar]

It stands for dance partner

[stray forge]

whats ur character name so i can blacklist u for this abomination

[dreamy whale]

Literally Him

[grand mesa]

can u still press the dpad well like that

[dreamy whale]

Ye

[grand mesa]

fair enough

[dreamy whale]

Elden Ring has trained me

[grand mesa]

understandable

i need to get better at nightreign

[kind elm]

claw grip has been around for a very long time

ive usually only seen it on right side of controller tho

professional mw2 days

[grand mesa]

you havent seen the average controller apex player

[kind elm]

[kind elm]

thats because roller players are burning in hell

[dreamy whale]

Is bard really that hard

[kind elm]

no

[dreamy whale]

Whyge they lie to me

[valid solar]

Bard is rng proc heaven

Or hell depending on how you look at it

[kind elm]

press song use proc refresh dot

[grand mesa]

bard is hard to optimize

[dreamy whale]

Yeah john moomoo prolly gonna drop the dots

[grand mesa]

but that's different from playing it at a mildly competent level

[stray forge]

optimizing bard except its just buying a bunch of rabbit feet

[uncut pebble]

hey guys

[valid solar]

Bards be doing the millisecond based optimizations to have the personal damage of bit less than a good tank

Bard personal damage will never not make me laugh

I know a guy who got flamed in PF for "doing less damage than the tank" because the other person didn't have their dps meter set to rdps

[grand mesa]

does

act even have rdps

[proper cave]

Good old Tekken grip lol

[valid solar]

I'm actually not sure, I use the meter that comes with the fflogs uploader app

Which does have rdps

[dreamy whale]

In theory I am cooking

[grand mesa]

oh

that one's different

[valid solar]

Yeah I use the plogon version of ACT, not ACT itself

IINACT I think it was called

[dreamy whale]

Yea iinact

Coincidentally also the only way linux players can use act

[valid solar]

Do you think we're going to get the rest of what he was trying to say or did he get silenced before he could type

[uncut pebble]

[random needle]

Standalone ACT doesn't have rDPS best I can tell, unless certain overlays support it and others don't

[grand mesa]

adrian's dead 🥀

[valid solar]

The legendary 100% refulgent proc pull

[jolly flume]

🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮

[uncut pebble]

🤮

[stray forge]

[random needle]

I think DPS should have their own equivalent of Tenacity and Piety (functionally useless stat)

[rapid whale]

it's called direct hit

[grand mesa]

they should have one that increases ur dmg dealt when you take damage

and then make every mechanic give u a dd

🥀

[valid solar]

That reminds me

[rapid whale]

tengetsu maxing

[valid solar]

Apparently there was a time where DD wouldn't apply if you were shielded enough to not take health damage

That's hilarious

[grand mesa]

yea

endwalker

[random needle]

Parry rate :icant:

[jolly flume]

bleeds too

smile

[rapid whale]

sometimes i hear about old stuff from ffxiv and i genuinely wonder why people think it was better back then

cuz a lot sounds like ass

[grand mesa]

jobs were more challenging to play

blm wasn't the husk it is now

[rapid whale]

i heard smn was the giga brain of all jobs

[jolly flume]

the wise wolf kinda cooked this week for having no gear

[grand mesa]

in shadowbringers

[rapid whale]

like pure opti smn was the goat but if you couldnt just get off the job

[grand mesa]

it was genuinely a hard job to opti

same with blm

[jolly flume]

I want stormblood healers back

[rapid whale]

yea i heard blm opti was to the point your rotation changed based on specific mana tick vs pull timer

[dreamy whale]

“Xiv was better before” mfs when ice only blm

[valid solar]

There used to be a plogon specifically for showing you the mana tick on blm

[grand mesa]

you could also route everything to depend on which procs you got

there were lines that you could shift to if you had a fire 3 proc ready

i got to the point where i was doing an entirely different rotation in p8sp1 every pull

it was fun

[rapid whale]

old blm sounds cool minus the mana tick stuff that was kinda cringe

[grand mesa]

tbh

you just ran as slow as possible so mana tick was more reliable

if you were trying to do transpose opti

[rapid whale]

now blm is the fast and furious job

[dreamy whale]

Dawntrail so

[grand mesa]

the thing was

[rapid whale]

i mean compared to shb/ew yea

[grand mesa]

blm wasnt even

complicated in endwalker if you didnt want it to be

[random needle]

I can definitely understand missing a lot of aspects of previous design, but a lot of stuff also sounds like it'd make me stab things if I ever had to deal with it

If you put up a XIV Classic, I'd probably try it a bit, but I very strongly doubt that I'd prefer it to current

[valid solar]

Is sps blm still a thing

[grand mesa]

you could standard rotation and still orange every run

[random needle]

Yuh

[grand mesa]

if u were just good at the job

[rapid whale]

sps blm is -the- thing rn

[stray forge]

NO

NO CLASSIC

[rapid whale]

yea

[stray forge]

[grand mesa]

sps blm probably sims highest

but

it genuinely doesnt matter

[rapid whale]

its the whole like, 10x effort for literally 5% gain

if its worth it to you go for it

[grand mesa]

yea

it was a good thing we lost..

[random needle]

Crit BLM sims like, ~1% less than sps BLM on average (if that), but because of variance you can get higher on good runs

[valid solar]

It matters if you want to pretend ffxiv has buildcrafting like most other MMO's

[grand mesa]

meld sps to comfort and either det>dh if going fast or crit>det=dh if going mid speed to slow

[grand mesa]

you also buff feed on crit a bit harder just bc ur xenoglossies chunk harder

[stray forge]

xiv gear progression be like

[random needle]

Feeding Xenos in buffs is pure neuron activation for me

[grand mesa]

when the xenos dh crit

[jolly flume]

I dped a blm in top once and he spent the entire lockout creaming over his 100k xenos

it was kinda funny

[shadow pilot]

Woah

[grand mesa]

brother

i once had an entire comp dedicated to buffing my critrate on crit blm

i think i transcended that evening

[rapid whale]

i remember a night

i ran with a drg/sch

and then i had 0 out of 16 crits on animal muses

actually abysmal crit luck

[grand mesa]

i had drg/nin/sch/dnc

dp on me

i crit EVERYTHING

[rapid whale]

o did they used to buff crit before?

[sleek moon]

if you mean nin no

[grand mesa]

oh nvm

but it did make my xenos hit harder

had ast card so i saw big number too

[rapid whale]

yea

[jolly flume]

[rapid whale]

seeing dps go to like 120k during opener is nice when i get to have dp + ast

[ocean valley]

yup

[trim frost]

game just hates me i fear

[grand mesa]

gg

[grand mesa]

yeah

[wicked delta]

a tank in pf asked me for dance partner

[rapid whale]

lol

i mean tbf in a prog party it never actually matterse

but if they were being srs /ragey about it then yea crinch

[wicked delta]

i said id consider it for like 10-20 million gil

i want more money

[grand mesa]

you got a taste for it once and it changed u..

[sleek moon]

that reminds me i keep forgetting to send my moneymakers

[rapid whale]

o to b poor

[jolly flume]

I wish I had moneymakers

actually I think

even if I had them

I'd be too lazy to send them out

I've sent my retainers on ventures a grand total of three times ever

[stray forge]

same

[rapid whale]

r u even aether native

[wind cypress]

I have 6 retainers and I break even on selling stuff they bring in because I eat so much raid food/pots 🙃

think I've eaten 150 strength pots this week 🤔

[sleek moon]

could also level up cul/alc instead of spending $8 per month on retainers

[grand mesa]

... how much is 1 retainer?

[proper cave]

$2/mo

[grand mesa]

oh.

that does not sound worth it unless you're selling enough to max out marketboard slots

[worn bluff]

but lance charge survived

they could have at least gave it the dragon sight icon and animation

[dull drum]

damn that shit gave true north too?

[worn bluff]

i mean it makes sense

i think they're the only melee who doesn't get any special GCDs in burst

so they're kind of forced into positionals at some point

[wicked delta]

I miss dragonsight man

[grand mesa]

I miss the seeing the tether jumping around

[wicked delta]

Dawntrail will be a 10/10 expansion if they bring the tether back

[grand mesa]

they made it bluetooth 🥀

[wind cypress]

I have an idea how they can revive the game.. make .. the player, important again 🙃

[sinful brook]

What

[shadow pilot]

Something something make Shadowbringer great again

[jolly flume]

I know how they can revive the game

more halmarut

[rapid whale]

A whole expansion

[jolly flume]

look man all I'm saying is NO SHOT they booked saori hayami to voice a side character

[worn bluff]

remember when they introduced a RPR that job changed to PLD and then became irrelevant

she just like me fr

[valid solar]

I miss zero

[worn bluff]

[amber fable]

zero became her name

a zero

[stray forge]

[shadow pilot]

FF14 x Mili or FF14 x Arknights pls /j

[frigid tide]

I want to try whm on controller, anyone willing to share their hotbar with me to have in mind a general set up

I wont be playing endgame content on controller but want something while playing casually

[torn kindle]

Repose on main bar
🥀

[alpine plover]

wanted to say lock your bars but ig on controller you can't drag out abilities

[buoyant mesa]

That's second bar

[jolly flume]

sleeping is integral to good in-game performance

[sleek moon]

i had to put sleep back in a random hotbar just for PT

most mobs can be slept and if you move ~2 rooms away while they are sleeping they deaggro

[worn bluff]

i'm helping my friends w m11 but haven't really played other tanks in a long time. how bad would it be for LB gen to play 2 of the same tank

if i play a different tank i'd have bad rotation plus 775 weapon instead of 790

[amber fable]

Beside delayed lb3

I dont think it would be a big issue

Not like you need dps lb3 either

[clear plume]

You’d only get a single lb in the fight and not always on the meteor set you might use it on in prog, but it’s not abysmal

[worn bluff]

my rotation is probably so ass on GNB on DRK that i'd do a few k less dps

[amber fable]

I mean double pld wont cause enrage

Not hitting buttons would..which a lb wont solve anyway

[worn bluff]

i still hit buttons i probably just overcap on stuff

or drift a little

[amber fable]

You will have to share tbs tho

Or you wont get invuln on towers

[worn bluff]

oh yeah

neither of us can invuln

[clear plume]

Sharing a tankbuster is normal for most tank comps isn’t it

[amber fable]

A 40 and sheltron should be fine

[worn bluff]

any non PLD can invuln the first one

yeah 40+short is fine just kind of cringe to hold invuln forever

for both tanks

[amber fable]

Pld debuff

[worn bluff]

i use 40+short for the second one