nvm its still only 400 ig
#endgame-lounge
stray forge
valid solar
see you tomorrow 
stray forge
rapid whale
grand mesa
cant u just q
rapid whale
im trying to give friends the 1st time bonus
valid solar
chiyo is coming in like 15 minutes
rapid whale
thats like, 1200 mathematics
valid solar
so might as well get a gang together
rapid whale
why arent you using tome weap anyway
stray forge
I have 200 tomestones
rapid whale
go do roulette
valid solar
if I was in a static id have been thrown out for the stunt I pulled a few days ago
grand mesa
fair enough
stray forge
And don’t feel like doing roulette
grand mesa
im in
valid solar
grand mesa
a merc pf rn so
rapid whale
ya we waiting like 20 mina nyway
valid solar
which fight
rapid whale
nbd i go brb
stray forge
Bapple almost hitting 50k dps on that fight while im struggling to reach 40k
stray forge
wicked delta
Bapple almost hitting 50k dps on that fight while im struggling to reach 40k
Was he on his alt
wicked delta
No like
wicked delta
His main account
wicked delta
I think hes bis on his main account so
grand mesa
we wouldve cleared if that guy just healed
wicked delta
Would make sense he outdamages you
grand mesa
vestal hollow
grand mesa
Wow, you've grown soft
vestal hollow
Wow, you've grown soft
you've grown softer
grand mesa
ive always been..
valid solar
I think hes bis on his main account so
main + I gave him DP
oh wait rdps right dp doesnt matter
o wait
im only 132 pulls on the tyrant
not washed just yet
stray forge
are there any mods that forcefem tyrant
valid solar
Bapple almost hitting 50k dps on that fight while im struggling to reach 40k
also
he was playing picto
and you were playing
reaper
its silly to compare rdps like that
tired egret
just now had the most insane T13 sesh ever
worn bluff
im trying to give friends the 1st time bonus
m12s c4me. come collect your paste
tired egret
Bahamut fucking Akh Morn'd the entire party except for me & the Dragoon
he managed to LB3 it
worn bluff
valid solar
worn bluff
you forgot to photoshop my character in
tired egret
I'm sure you can fit next to me & the goon
worn bluff
idt any of my glam existed when UCOB came out
stray forge
did u have to help chop the scallions
rapid whale
post your chives
terse zodiac
i love seeing parties like this and checking their pulls
bro has only seen enrage 1 time and was completely lost at the end of idyllic
jolly flume
the more angry someone's pf desc sounds the more likely it is that they're the problem
rapid whale
bro has only seen enrage 1 time and was completely lost at the end of idyllic
they r studied and confident
jolly flume
idyllic+++++++ join if confident
terse zodiac
i need to learn what pf is doing i suppose
terse zodiac
rep 1 my sch was doing something different from the wtfdig probably the 2nd hector prio
sly basin
our worst
sly basin
i will always be down for chaotic raiding
stray forge
sly basin
i only really do chaotic
sly basin
if u ever want to.... i can help u do chaotic....
rapid whale
pf is up btw @jolly flume in case you were waiting for inv
valid solar
my daily tyrant battery lasts like
lowkey mori I think you might need to step away from that static, you're going to get brain damage if you're doing weapons with them while you're at enrage
stray forge
idk who that is
valid solar
vtuber I think
stray forge
🥀
wicked delta
mossy eagle
vtuber I think
A what?
trim frost
down with bunboys
low hearth
need that torch
sly basin
jolly flume
what the sigma
wicked delta
Kick the paladin
trim frost
Kick the paladin
finite plank
Card the paladin
sly basin
woaw
rain geode
Pard the Paladin
dreamy whale
Hi chat
sly basin
hello chat
shy obsidian
greetings chat
raw sand
kill the paladin
worn bluff
hug the paladin
sick dirge
poke the paladin
valid solar
any guess as to why I got hit by both here ? (DNC)
trim frost
gulp...
wicked delta
valid solar
vamp stomp hardest mech this tier
wicked delta
Hardest fight of this expansion
trim frost
any guess as to why I got hit by both here ? (DNC)
uhhhhhh
potentially related to gnb being in the wrong spot?
do you know where the portals were
actually
gnb being in the wrong spot shouldn't affect anyone else since it's just line from boss right
jolly flume
check the actual log
valid solar
yeah
trim frost
my best guess is that drg might have been in slightly the wrong spot because i don't see how else you would get clipped by a meteor tether
valid solar
wicked delta
Hes elping
valid solar
wait a minute im looking at the wrong long I think
jolly flume
send me the link you chungus
valid solar
one sec
jolly flume
250 more exp but I have to do reclears now 
wicked delta
Time to heal green box
clear plume
I got ur reclears for u dw I will press zero heals
valid solar
250 more exp but I have to do reclears now <:tenyucri:1284815347211440128>
maybe this time there will not be a single vamp stonp death
grand mesa
meowjestic meowteowrath
jolly flume
valid solar
jolly flume
maybe this time there will not be a single vamp stonp death
last week I sent an aoe through the entire party on aetherletting
oopsies
it did get us a perfect 8:28 kt though
valid solar
worth
grand mesa
Just cleared m10
valid solar
awesome
grand mesa
I'm starting to see why people hate this fuckin fight so much 
valid solar
good luck in 11 prog val, its a tough one
grand mesa
I've cleared the tier 
valid solar
grand mesa
also
wicked delta
M10S is impossible content
valid solar
grand mesa
dnc life
vestal hollow
I'm starting to see why people hate this fuckin fight so much <:ICANT:1188745129...
you have to suffer to truly understand
valid solar
are you tanking this tier sitri
grand mesa
Every time I play not healer
I end up wanting to play healer
Because
God fucking damn
grand mesa
The creatures I have to be in party with
valid solar
gg
vestal hollow
what does this mean
vestal hollow
what if i tank u
grand mesa
You can't take me, babe.
valid solar
The creatures I have to be in party with
did you die in arena split because the healer forgot to top you up
thats happened to me on pranged several times for some reason
grand mesa
meow..
it happened once
I even
stayed near mid until last second so mit could hit me
valid solar
vestal hollow
jolly flume
thats happened to me on pranged several times for some reason
are you going out immediately
grand mesa
so I just reflexively have a trigger finger over my personal heal there very time now ig
yea
trim frost
i like 10 when people aren't terrorizing me
jolly flume
wait middle until fire dude skates down the middle
trim frost
i also like 11 when dps players aren't brainlets in ecliptic
grand mesa
or you can miss mit
valid solar
i also like 11 when dps players aren't brainlets in ecliptic
mb
trim frost
are you even at ecliptic dawg
valid solar
I hit enrage
valid solar
nah the runs werent very clean
I think I still need to clean up ecliptic before I go for clear
sinful brook
tell your other dps players to stop having 80% uptime
Mb
valid solar
today in ecliptic I got clockwise prio since both healers were baiting, I look right from north, I see a tb tower, a second tb tower, and so I turn around and theres a third tb tower
turns out that first tower was not a tb tower
oops
wicked delta
I understand ecliptic conceptually but I feel like if I do it in instance my brain will just go “what” and everyone dies
trim frost
ecliptic wipes are so frustrating because they're always out of my control
as tank i literally barely do anything and i win
so i just have to watch disasters happen from afar
fucking
two weeks ago
a healer rotated their tether ccw into my corner
and in the pull prior to that the main tank took my tower and i couldn't flex in time because i'm not supposed to need to flex
sinful brook
I mean statics aren't immune to this either
clear plume
That’s the most normal way it fucks up in pf, yeah
sinful brook
The first 10 times my group saw it
past bison
@wicked delta you're no longer broke 
sinful brook
I got the tether as a melee
valid solar
u will clear frfrfr
trim frost
can u like not choke 9 minutes into the fight ty
valid solar
I got the tether as a melee
put the ranged gcd in the bag king
sinful brook
Even though the plan was fixed ecliptic
I did it correctly but we had damage issues
grand mesa
my favorite way to wipe to ecliptic is when both ranged get the prey puddle baits and they run around like headless panicked chickens and die
low hearth
can u like not choke 9 minutes into the fight ty
mb
jolly flume
can u like not choke 9 minutes into the fight ty
clear plume
Chiyo they said choke not get choked don’t get too excited
grand mesa
tbh
stupid ecliptic wipes is why i think the ranged/healer flex for ecliptic is stupid as shit
why overcomplicate it
people fuck it up enough as is
valid solar
stupid ecliptic wipes is why i think the ranged/healer flex for ecliptic is stup...
yeah but if the melees get 5 more gcds in it'll stop enrages
valid solar
ok true I have heard the horrors of the 0.1 wipes
sinful brook
Yeah you joke but my static had 1 death on our dped sam and we 0.1% enraged
valid solar
gg
grand mesa
gg
valid solar
truth nuke
grand mesa
has the sam considered not dying with dp
sinful brook
(hint though: it was because my war has 84% uptime)
sinful brook
Natty hold
clear plume
Listen if he knew how to mit and eat meteor in melee range that’s a 98% uptime surely
grand mesa
i dont think fixed ecliptic is going to fix that at all
clear plume
grand mesa
84>85%
sinful brook
We got a 1030 kill this week because of the natty hold
grand mesa
congrats
sinful brook
I double lbed and still did really good
trim frost
i never really did like log analysis with my static back in abyssos bc we never really had damage problems
when you like repeatedly enrage in a static do you have to like sit down with everyone and put your weakest performers on PIPs or what
grand mesa
yes
I remember being in a static where I'd regularly parse high oranges and pinks on enrage pulls on BLM, but we had a bad player that just didn't improve enough to clear
trim frost
am i a fucking valley girl why did i say like so many times
valid solar
~~(hint though: it was because my war has 84% uptime)~~
its a classic
grand mesa
but yea
every time ive close enraged in m11 it's always a player playing like dogshit
had a 93% uptime dnc once
sinful brook
when you like repeatedly enrage in a static do you have to like sit down with ev...
Probably but I'm not static lead so
wicked delta
its a classic
I literally saw this happen today
Like tbh the drk was also griefing a little bit
But
I was watching my bf trying to clear m10s today
They enrage on the bubble
With a single tank death
valid solar
excellent hold
valid solar
gg
trim frost
glup
wicked delta
Like he was trolling but umm…
trim frost
if you see the damage being kinda low on bubble just send lb3 its really not that hard
trim frost
press buttons
wicked delta
Lok
trim frost
yeah
wicked delta
Lol
trim frost
it's not hard to do the mental math on if you'll enrage or not imo
wicked delta
That dps check isnt real
grand mesa
miau
trim frost
fire line will always knock off 15% so if you see a multiple of 15 + a scary extra bit of health then yeah you might be sus
wicked delta
Ive never like
Seen clean enrage on the bubble
Usually its cus a lot of ppl were dead n shit
grand mesa
i havent either
wicked delta
But ive never had a party where everyone was completely fine and we enraged on the bubble
valid solar
on MCH if the bubble is like 16% before the last hit I just put the tools in the bag and we usually scrape by
robust shoal
my static just dumps 2s into the bubble to be sure
zealous meteor
SIX SEVENNNNNN
explode
zealous meteor
https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349
explode too
terse zodiac
this new google dockey drama gotta be the biggest nothing burger i ever seen why are there hundreds of people here
trim frost
trim frost
this new google dockey drama gotta be the biggest nothing burger i ever seen why...
please get all of these people out of my server
terse zodiac
i heard something was going down show up and theres just hundreds of people around for online middle school relationship drama 😭
playerbase aint real
wicked delta
this new google dockey drama gotta be the biggest nothing burger i ever seen why...
I wish people had this much energy for actual predators
😭
Like do I think its funny? Yes
dapper zealot
Wtf is this drama is about, I'm seeing it every where on my feed
wicked delta
Do I think people are taking this e-relationship drama way too seriously? Also yes
wicked delta
Wtf is this drama is about, I'm seeing it every where on my feed
TLDR dude got clowned on by gposer twitter for being a shithead and nuked his acc
Toxic e-boy drama
dapper zealot
Can't believe Kael would do this
zealous meteor
I wish people had this much energy for actual predators
Maple Quintus / Seraph is evil though! he called me a bitch once! that's problematic!
no relation to Maple Quintus / Gilgamesh
trim frost
roof tiles collapsing in on the house call that a problem attic
tulip anvil
i need to know this drama
wicked delta
Who the fuck stole my whole flow from Seraph can they pick a cooler world like Faerie or something
zealous meteor
faerie is congested
wicked delta
Well all the gay people gotta go somewhere
zealous meteor
also seraph is fine. there's cool people on there
wicked delta
Such as?
zealous meteor
the person who runs the big reset trains on dynamis
wicked delta
Your first mistake was assuming I do hunt trains
I did in early access DT and there were so many people I experienced untold lag
trim frost
the person who runs the big reset trains on dynamis
that sounds like it would take literal years
zealous meteor
that sounds like it would take literal years
they deliberately do fairly slow trains so it's like 20 minutes per world ish
trim frost
that reminds me when i did a kirlirger train on aether and by the time we had fully finished (+ a couple ss ranks) dynamis was on their second world and was struggling with the dps
so a bunch of aether people jumped over and it still took like 3x as long to complete
wicked delta
I remember doing snakelord fate and dps was so low that people from the other fate (in living memory) were apparently clowning on us 😭😭😭
zealous meteor
the later kirlirgers always die in 30 seconds because all the aether crystal and primal people flood in
trim frost
on a related note
you know how some s ranks' spawn conditions require blue mage spells
i wonder if they'll do a similar thing with beastmaster stuff
vestal hollow
high chance the lv1's in coerthas were bst related
zealous meteor
i wonder if they'll do a similar thing with beastmaster stuff
i hope so
trim frost
yeah
zealous meteor
hunts already require every other job in the game
trim frost
it was an otherwise very random bug to have occur
wicked delta
Can we bring back lvl 1 nothing I miss them
zealous meteor
don't leave BST out
zealous meteor
Can we bring back lvl 1 nothing I miss them
please
vestal hollow
Can we bring back lvl 1 nothing I miss them
i miss you
wicked delta
But im right here
zealous meteor
sometimes we can still hear his voice.....
vestal hollow
please
Tomorrow when the farm boys find this
freak of nature, they will wrap his body
in newspaper and carry him to the museum.But tonight he is alive and in the north
field with his mother. It is a perfect
summer evening: the moon rising over
the orchard, the wind in the grass.
And as he stares into the sky, there
are twice as many stars as usual.
vestal hollow
But im right here
we're trying something new... you need to wake up
daring pine
@vestal hollow boop
wicked delta
daring pine
wait no i'll come back
true beacon
I remember doing snakelord fate and dps was so low that people from the other fa...
First time he spawned there were so many people that some of us were literally invincible
mossy eagle
Damn merc book party just one shot both phase 1 and phase 2
the secret ingredient really is money
jolly flume
it's money + kicking shitters who join for money
valid solar
I had a 10M M10 this week that was also 1 shot
I do need m10 gear but 10 mil in like week 6 I think is kinda wild
So I didn't want to pass it up
mossy eagle
I paid 3 mil for the book which was probably a bit overkill (people probably still would have joined for 1 or 2 mil), but idgaf. I have a ton of gil from when I was degening this game and I wanted to be cleared before vacation next week
echo ibex
Man
Kinda really wish Lindwurm 2 didn't fly
He looks with so much aura during his mini land
mossy eagle
He should date me
rain geode
He shouldn't date me
vestal hollow
IS IT REAL
mossy eagle
SUDDENLY I WANNA BE RIDING FREE
THE EXTREME OH BABY CANT YOU SEE
rapid whale
You clear
clear plume
was just sent a 31 page doc of the pettiest ffxiv ecouple drama of my life
and by pettiest i mean like
holy is it nothing
terse zodiac
yet hundreds of people are on midgard surrounding the dude with torches
clear plume
yeah idgi
half of it is "i didnt want to date i just joke for fun but he talked me into it" which like literally who cares
daring pine
we got to ia2 again but everyone exploded on last swap
i can do this
RAAH
man having to dot refresh 2 targets is weird
amber fable
iron jaw makes it easier
stray forge
Please go outside if u have ecouple drama and create a dossier about it
I am no longer asking
amber fable
or alternatively dont share details about it
mossy eagle
FFXIV players are freaks (derogatory)
amber fable
the freaks whose brain never matured yes
mossy eagle
If you play FFXIV and are of legal drinking age, you should be legally required to go to a bar or club once a week to socialize with people outside of a video game
tulip anvil
was just sent a 31 page doc of the pettiest ffxiv ecouple drama of my life
SEND ME IT I WANNA SEE
terse zodiac
oh i just realized this is the person with no endgame experience saying they wanted to do an old ultimate like fru
craggy marsh
Man, I think I upset someone in this static by calling the truth in M11 tonight
rapid whale
<@389100126943313920> <@285567261882843138> <@212281772724060160> IM FREE
congrats
daring pine
congrats
i'm so fucking relieved 😭
now i just need to improve my performance in reclears
rapid whale
did you tell them their dps was dawg or something
daring pine
whew
rapid whale
gjgj
daring pine
i know my dots are fucked at least
craggy marsh
huh
subbed for a static that has been on the fight for 4 weeks and the same people keep dying to weapons every other pull and I just said "If people stop dying to the same mechs maybe we can prog"
daring pine
lol
craggy marsh
rapid whale
damn toxic
daring pine
subbed for a static that has been on the fight for 4 weeks and the same people k...
i mean
craggy marsh
they're supposed to be on stampede
rapid whale
im going to uhhhhhhh blame bullshit snapshots and i'll have that with a side of uhhhh ai fight design
craggy marsh
stampede prog disguised as weapons prog
rapid whale
its ok even in reclears sometimes you see weapons prog
craggy marsh
it's not even hard for me anymore but the repeated wipes to weapons over and over again is weighing me down
daring pine
and some dots falling off
alright thats easy to fix i just need to plan when i refresh and stuff
@rapid whale dude
gloves + tomestone dropped
i rolled a 2 and 3
rapid whale
Habbins
stray forge
one of my tanks
rapid whale
Now you get to have fun
daring pine
but anyway barse number easy fix
stray forge
literally keeps dying
daring pine
just need to plan refreshes
rapid whale
Oh like refuse to mit
stray forge
and idk what to do about it
clear plume
subbed for a static that has been on the fight for 4 weeks and the same people k...
if it makes u feel better i know a group stuck on 10 for 5 weeks so far
terse zodiac
mitting late is not mitting
daring pine
mit earlier idk
stray forge
daring pine
i wanna avoid early refreshes but sometimes its a little rng
craggy marsh
Stampede is simple enough but idk what keeps getting people stuck on it
stray forge
I’m too lazy to get
craggy marsh
in fixed stampede parties no less
stray forge
500 mnemonics
daring pine
mango
craggy marsh
ye
daring pine
there were TWO bunnies in the party that i just cleared with
one of them added me waow
stray forge
What the parties are like
craggy marsh
one of them added me waow
stray forge
Idr how many wipes I caused
daring pine
<:BE_AzumiPleadShy:1092658819391307816>
i'll give you headpats too
trim frost
enough wipes
trim frost
crust like a man
daring pine
yeah
trim frost
yay
daring pine
ia2 prog party got a clear
stray forge
What does crust like a man mean
daring pine
1 chest but thats ok
trim frost
good enough
daring pine
rolled a 2 on gloves gg
trim frost
dude my 10 reclear this week
the main tank went south for last alleyoop and it scared me so bad
daring pine
i keep getting firesnaking lately
trim frost
luckily i'm a gamer and i flexed
stray forge
Firesnaking is better and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t
daring pine
what if middle is unsafe huh
stray forge
I pray for firesnaking every time
daring pine
im a watersnaking enjoyer
i need to refresh my dot on deep blue earlier during split arena because otherwise he goes untargetable and it falls off
stray forge
Ranged vs melee discourse
amber fable
Water snaking is easier
stray forge
Water snaking is mid 👏
terse zodiac
well fire actually has to pay a tiny bit of attention where they shoot
water has a country mile to fan out
amber fable
Only 1 person in water has to be little aware of things
daring pine
tank?
terse zodiac
yeah
amber fable
Yea
terse zodiac
the rng on if you pull tanks that know how to group them up right after fire/watersnaking
daring pine
it's rng if they get lined up properly for cutback blaze
let me shoot them both with apex arrow okay
i have 100 gauge and a trigger finger
terse zodiac
you just need water tank to grab both of them at the end
daring pine
yeah
terse zodiac
hesperos did act i ii iii and curtain call better, the theming makes no sense for lindwurm
trim frost
the arena is a recreation of a lindblum theater
that's why there's also stuff like reenactment in p2
terse zodiac
the naming makes sense with the boss but the mechanics aren't like acts building off eachother, and curtain call for hesperos played out like each person taking a bow instead of running in a circle together
terse zodiac
imo it would work better since he's implanting you with cells as stage 1, stage 2, stage 3 (and haha pun because stage play)
but im just being weird and this doesn't matter at all
true beacon
Something something welcome back Mega Dragalge
craggy marsh
The cancer seaweed
fierce matrix
I press invuln and stand on fire
Smh not doing the gapclose strat
amber fable
My skill is too lacking for that I fear...plus not like you're invulning anything else
tulip anvil
why did they make a cancer dragon mega pokemon
fierce matrix
My skill is too lacking for that I fear...plus not like you're invulning anythi...
You still invuln it
And then just gapclose when the castbar goes away
trim frost
holy shit what
clear plume
Can’t believe the moon is about to get a decent subway before LA
jolly flume
hell will freeze before this country gets functioning public transport
trim frost
my heart belongs to the seattle link light rail
jolly flume
put the ford f150 in the bag
clear plume
I have a ford f150 but it’s oldge
From when the 250 still existed
So smaller than current ones by a lot
rapid whale
If my car doesn't make kids cry and animals die is it even a car /s
clear plume
That’s what my Maserati is for
jolly flume
If my car doesn't make kids cry and animals die is it even a car /s
cybertruck vs deer is the new hydraulic press vs watermelon
clear plume
I think moose might still win that one
dapper zealot
the meese
rapid whale
i heard there are recorded orca attacks on moose
clear plume
I think if we put it in off roads conditions the moose wins for SURE
rapid whale
apparently moose will swim and when they do orcas look at them like a fortnite loot box
clear plume
I would do, have u ever had moose compared to fish? Way better
Moose steaks are hella peak.
rapid whale
idt ive ever tasted deer/moose now that i think on it
the weirdest stuff ive had is like offal/organs but thats of the standard ameenuhlz
clear plume
Not surprised, it doesn’t ship well so if you aren’t in deer country it’s like, very cost ineffective
clear plume
It’s basically just tougher and less fat
If you like lean steaks it’s good there, otherwise it makes nice sausages tio
Oh right
Moose is also lik
VERY good stew meat
dull drum
Can’t believe the moon is about to get a decent subway before LA
LA will never get shit
hell top headline today is cleaning out the homeless before the olympics
💀💀💀
terse zodiac
rep 2 might just be insurmountable in pf
grand mesa
rep 2 might just be insurmountable in pf
I haven't had that much issue with it
terse zodiac
rep 2 prog groups i mean
grand mesa
That mechanic is conceptually easy but I think ppl overcomplicate it in their head and panic and fuck it up
sinful brook
yeah you just have to be able to plan as you go
my group is currently trying to learn it
grand mesa
You grab your shit, you stand in your spot
Mechanic solves itself
Initial spots, stand in stack, dodge boss cleave
then reenactment happens
congrats, mechanic done
sinful brook
im liking banana codex rep2 a lot
but my group has been doing the stacks a little too far up the sides of the boss and beaming each other with the cone
sinful brook
(not a bc rep specific problem)
grand mesa
You remind them to point it the fuck away from everyone else
sinful brook
yeah i have been
sinful brook
but they also don't stand near enough to the stack person whos in the right spot
grand mesa
Everyone stacking should be max melee
The cone should be in hotbox
Point the cone rel north
Tell ppl not to move until cones go off
sinful brook
yeah im just saying if the stack person is like SE/SW of boss
everyone else is E/W lol
grand mesa
You need to talk to them abt that
Because
That's bad and makes it harder to aim the cone for 0 reason
rapid whale
long live the king
rapid whale
clear my alt m9s smile
wicked delta
Congrats!!!
kind elm
yuri...
daring pine
yuri..
terse zodiac
woa idyllic
grand mesa
Im gonna try to C41 my bf today
let me know if you need a regen
wicked delta
let me know if you need a regen
will do
wicked delta
So I can drag him into Tyrant prog
wicked delta
Yeah
grand mesa
ez clear.. surely..
worn bluff
why are non healer party leads insisting on ttp towers in m11
it should just be supports decide
grand mesa
the healers should decide
worn bluff
TTP is kind of nice for tanks though, i've come to like it more than PTT
grand mesa
the thing is
I have jack shit up for the third tower
why are you forcing me to gcd heal during two minutes too
the only time ill ever agree to ttp as an ast is if i know the party is good enough to skip towers anyways
tired egret
you WILL GCD Heal
worn bluff
idk how healer resources work but what do you use on first tower?
grand mesa
i have bubble and sunsign
tired egret
you WILL spam Cure2
grand mesa
the main issue
is the fact the boss gets a dmg up
for every tower done
so you have to heal more hits on top of every hit dealing more dmg
worn bluff
yeah true, each one does more dmg
worn bluff
idk one of our healer friends prefers TTP
but i think she said it's just bc she wants us tanks to be comfy
grand mesa
she needs to value herself more
thin fox
skip third tower or wipe
worn bluff
just good fren
thin fox
the truth is it doesnt matter what you do because pf is just wiping to ecliptic anyway
grand mesa
its dumb for me to shift any resources around for last tower if i can just breeze through first one
yes
grand mesa
but i can reduce the chance anything catastrophic happens
you can live a 4way solo if you have enough mit
so
anyways
sly basin
3
dull drum
TTP is fine
everyone has their mits up
theres no reason why the healers wouldnt have everything up by then, the TT tanks can handle alone with just regen for the non invuln dude
worn bluff
tanks have 40% up for the one hit they have to share in second tower
they could even take 2 for extra safety if they wanted
TTT is also pretty easy
dull drum
most healers ive met in pf prefer TTP over TTT
TTT isnt really hard but ive see some close calls hp wise
because it turns out the other 6 fucking trogolodytes dont hit their mits as often unless they’re also standing in it
rapid whale
36 on pure crafted gear
grand mesa
theres no reason why the healers wouldnt have everything up by then, the TT tank...
I use shit on ecliptic to make the mechanic safer
rapid whale
i dont wanna hear ppl bitch about gear ever again
grand mesa
probably
you'd have to use no long cd mit at all during ecliptic
to have the resources to spread for the party towers
grand mesa
you can live a 4way solo if you have enough mit
but
grand mesa
its dumb for me to shift any resources around for last tower if i can just breez...
and
¯_(ツ)_/¯
dull drum
i mean wouldnt you have less resources for first tower if you’re spending stuff on ecliptic
versus last tower
i guess the less hits make up for that
grand mesa
yes
boss also gets a dmg up after every tower, last one will hit harder in general
you need less resources to take the first tower
so shit like soil and the regen 10% 60s plus spare feint and rep is enough
dull drum
reclears atp with humans would prob be TTP if you want a better funny number mostly because 0 5 10 pot and high likelihood of skipping last tower
humans
grand mesa
yes
id be happy to ttp if im confident party is good enough to 0 5 10 and skip final
but if im in a clear party with unknown damage id rather ptt and sink mit into ecliptic
grand mesa
mitting ecliptic also makes it easier to recover from having a party dot
from missed tower
grand mesa
surely every party is confident at week (6?) i havent kept track
yeah. yeah.
surely.
tough gorge
I honestly don't know why ptt isn't standard at this point
tulip anvil
surely every party is confident at week (6?) i havent kept track
its not, its terriblle
life is terrible
rapid whale
I think speeds are in the 940s
grand mesa
yea
we killed pretty early in static with a couple of deaths
but pf is
a different beast
tulip anvil
for some reason theres an influx of consistant gray parsing vipers and black mages
ive started checking now cus whenever i dont we get someone who deals less damage than my dancer
and dies significantly more
dull drum
for some reason theres an influx of consistant gray parsing vipers and black mag...
welcome to the usual suspects
dull drum
ive had fine vipers but lobotomized blms
flat vault
difference is viper basically plays itself while blm takes some modicum of intelligence
grand mesa
i respect ppl who admit they cant play other jobs and just pick up the vpr/mch/smn weapon
id rather take a person w solid uptime on a "bad job" over some of the specimens ive seen
dapper zealot
mb I'm new
grand mesa
mb
rapid whale
mb im new
hollow owl
are airships worth anything in current patch over subs?
trim frost
How do you do ptt
other tank needs to share some ticks with mit
tank invuln does not last long enough for any tower except the first one
so for ptt the other tank needs to share 1 tick for second tower and 2 ticks for third tower
trim frost
tank invuln does not last long enough for any tower except the first one
possible exception to this is drk with sufficient initial mit on the first hit (it’s like ~500k raw?) but not really worth risking that late into the fight imo
trim frost
Just ttp
less party healing required if party takes first tower
plus tanks don’t really need any personal support there
just mit initially then other tank moves out
i don’t have any preference as long as it’s agreed upon beforehand
alpine plover
Neither does ttp
But anyway
Both clear and we getting to the point where we clear 11 with 4dps deaths so who cares
trim frost
with how much pf stinks at this game any excuse to let healers glaremaxx a little more is fine by me
though in my first clear the paladin did not soak enough stacks with me on final tower so i had to eat shit and die to not wipe the party
grand mesa
How do you do ptt
invul 2nd sink last
90s after 2nd puddle bait during ecliptic for tower and ull have it up for last
grand mesa
Just ttp
u're missing the point of putting party first
but, go off girl
since u have a spare invuln if u shared 2nd buster, you can just have the tank use it after a few hits, makes it easier to just put the rest of the free mits/heals the healers have on the other tank
and I think any tank should be capable of timing a mit using an easily found visual indicator that they also happen to be dodging anyways
as opposed to making your healers work harder during a 2min window for 0 reason
sleek moon
are airships worth anything in current patch over subs?
late but not really, it has some exclusive items but they aren't worth much, and overall you make less money than getting salvaged accessories
grand mesa
you can do them for fun if you'd like, though
rapid whale
Ttt is the way
grand mesa
im always thankful if the tanks are competent enough to do ttt
hollow owl
i already got an airship all the way through and got some zu horns
should i just turn all of my airships to subs?
rapid whale
If your goal is long term gil, probably
sleek moon
you can have 4
hollow owl
okie thanks
grand mesa
Whenever I've seen a party up advertising ttp it's always a tank or dps that's lead
And they usually take longer to find healers
Tbh
Everyone should be forced to heal a tier at least once
thin fox
surely every party is confident at week (6?) i havent kept track
lol
lol
lol
lol
good one brother
grand mesa
all these fuckass strats that make it harder on us for no reason
live a day in my shoes
tough gorge
I was tempted to try out healing a full tier in 8.0
bc to me when a healer is really bad it's very obvious but the small details always escape me bc I'm just focused on mechs and tanking
also how tf does ttt work
alpine plover
since u have a spare invuln if u shared 2nd buster, you can just have the tank u...
I mean it's mostly having the tanks time 2 things that may cause a wipe if not done correctly vs healers (potentially) having to do 1 more gcd heal.
Unless for some reason everyone blew up every mit for 2/4 way, you get 90s mits back
sleek moon
also how tf does ttt work
iirc kitchen sink the third
boreal pumice
Gives fair answer gets insulted
tough gorge
why put all the work on the healers at the very end
trim frost
if your tanks are such rocks-for-brains that they don’t know how to count ticks to share then that is an entire other discussion that needs to be had
tough gorge
a tank's job is to make their lives as miserable as possible to make everyone else's as easy as possible
"oh but healers have all their tools back by then!!!!!" yeah and if you're saving burst for 10:30 those healers won't be doing shit
they'll be spamming heals
trim frost
“healers have all their tools back” is also the argument i’ve seen for ttt which is objectively the worst possible option i think
tough gorge
I've had healers in pf be so happy to keep glaring because me and my buddy do ptt
grand mesa
i alr explained why i have jack shit for last tower
alpine plover
i looked at my log for the first time i clear 11
trim frost
"oh but healers have all their tools back by then!!!!!" yeah and if you're savin...
i didn’t even factor that in yeah that’s a good point
alpine plover
i counted just 2 aspected helios from my pure healer for last tower , everything else is ogcd. but let's say i missed 1 or 2
using your abilities is not too hard. a lot of them come back up for last tower
not to mention everyone else's in the party does
grand mesa
did they using anything during ecliptic?
because I do, because it makes that mechanic safer
trim frost
agree to disagree man idc
do what you wanna do as long as the mechanic passes and you kill who cares
grand mesa
im not saving shit when I don't have to
alpine plover
i mean i'm just pulling the numbers
alpine plover
sure
trim frost
dora the explorer ass mechanic
thin fox
I am being completely serious from a psychological standpoint it feels like fights do 1000x more damage when its your job to heal everything you straight up do not think about what resources you actually have until its your job to manage them
thin fox
ulti healing 
finite plank
kill boss before 10:30 in pf challenge
trim frost
where’s that tweet that’s like this is such a nonissue
zealous meteor
dora the explorer ass mechanic
swiper, no wiping!
thin fox
the only thing hard about playing healer in ultimate is uptime. the actual healing part is completely solved. the fact that standard pf uses a mit sheet for everything makes even top/dsr incredibly consistent fights to heal. any given raid tier is harder to heal in pf than an ultimate.
grand mesa
I also have to play in pf where the competency of my coheal is an unkown number
thin fox
even when the ulti sheets are bad (dsrmitty 
) theyre at least consistent so you know which parts consistently need to be made up for
trim frost
swiper, no wiping!
got me thinking about fuckwads who complain excessively about someone else wiping the party in the chat and then when they’re the culprit it’s “oopsie uwu :P”
tulip anvil
whats a mit sheet?
thin fox
in pf its a gamble whether youre even gonna have rep
alpine plover
i mean i just said my argument for ttp but you guys started insulting and saying you talk to a wall when i looked at my log for first clear to bring some more stuff
tulip anvil
i just press mits whenever lol
alpine plover
iif you dont wanna elaborate further that's fine
thin fox
whats a mit sheet?
a literal spreadsheet saying "on this cast, this mit should be up". commonly uses in ultimates where missing a mit can be a huge problem compared to savage.
grand mesa
tulip anvil
i know what a mit sheet is
trim frost
i ain’t say shit brah don’t put me in that bucket
both are viable based on how much you wanna torture your healers but the best solution is to just kill before it matters
thin fox
mf asks whats a mit sheet and then goes i know what a mit sheet is 
trim frost
i wonder how many people are hardstuck on fixer bc they don’t know how to mit
grand mesa
ive seen a party disband because people refused to 1st gcd addle/feint it
quite wild
thin fox
ppl probably do not conceptualise that any 90s+ mit you send wont be up for final tower unless you hit a 90s mit directly at the beginning of ecliptic
tough gorge
the only argument for ttp is that it's the safest option for pf, because the average pf player can't do anything remotely optimal
thin fox
wrong because average pf needs 0-6-10:30 and ttp is grief for healers in that circumstance
grand mesa
i dont even think its safer
thin fox
and healer dps in pf is already struggling as is
grand mesa
ive died to last tower bc my coheal had jack shit for it in one of my pfs
alpine plover
you know since this argument got out of control how about we call it
and complain about smth else
thin fox
whats going to happen in the average pf if you ttp
- wipe to healers having nothing
or - wipe to healers not doing anything under pot
thin fox
i think ttp can be fine in an organised setting where you have a minimum guaranteed set of mitigation available for things like ecliptic allowing you to migrate resources to towers but in pf its just not tenable
grand mesa
i think ttp can be fine in an organised setting where you have a minimum guarant...
its better in an organized group
i am not trusting anyone in pf
tithus had a panhaima set up for last tower
i do not always have a panhaima set up for last tower in pf
thin fox
no panhaima in ecliptic 
grand mesa
specially if someone fucks up and misses a tower
and then the healers throw out all their mits so they dont explode to 2/4
alpine plover
yuh i veil after the
thin fox
curse of twoway fireball
grand mesa
i play for consistency in the face of an environment that has none
thin fox
i usually send dark missionary to cover two/fourway + the raidwide because it is RARE to see mit for that raidwide for whatever reason (probably melees double feinting the post-orbital raidwide)
grand mesa
😔
thin fox
m11 being a phys dmg is so miserable because melee dont hit feint as is
alpine plover
smh...
thin fox
i've BEEN complaining that my alt is more geared than my main
i have cleared the fights fewer times on picto but i have +5 ilvl compared to main
grand mesa
and then the healers throw out all their mits so they dont explode to 2/4
you can live 2/4 with less than requisite amount of ppl in the stacks with enough mit
finite plank
i feint the meteor party stack 3x thing
grand mesa
you can live 4way with 1 person with enough mit
finite plank
is that enough
trim frost
admittedly i probably am not using party mit for the fireball stuff when i should be
alpine plover
i have cleared the fights fewer times on picto but i have +5 ilvl compared to ma...
time to switch mains
trim frost
i just never know how much time i have to stretch my tether so im always playing it safe with positioning and focusing on that
thin fox
ideally i would like to send tbn or oblation for a solo fourway but its too hard to react in time in pf so i will usually do it for the raidwide instead since its easier to react to hp on the party list
i will usually send a separate tbn + oblation before the final raidwide
i would send both oblations but i use one for towers