endgame-lounge

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/phrolova-smoke-wuwa-wuthering-waves-gif-10662127816666691029

[wicked delta]

Im sorry but fucking lmao

[rapid whale]

r ppl giga smuggling

[worn bluff]

in general, it's not recommended to just look at a high parse log and copy it, because there are a decent amount of people with bad rotations that just have gear and/or good crit luck

[rapid whale]

mb

[worn bluff]

[rapid whale]

i think we are late enough that the gear argument null tho

most statics r fully bis out

[worn bluff]

yeah i mean you could look at a random purple or orange log and it might be from early tier

[stray forge]

buddy we started m11s last week

wdym fully bis out

[worn bluff]

just historical high

[stray forge]

im still wearing crafted out here

[rapid whale]

mori the hobo

it's okay thrifting is cool af

[stray forge]

nah its been going downhill in nyc

[rapid whale]

gg

[stray forge]

shit out here got junk for like $40

[rapid whale]

lets b real the workers at the thrift stores were taking all the good shit and selling it online

[stray forge]

prob

depends on their knowledge

[grand mesa]

My bad

[whole estuary]

when I was donating stuff to a thrift store, it turns out the people taking donations in the back were not employees, and the actual employee came out with a steel pipe

[jolly flume]

[stray forge]

wtf

[rapid whale]

the shit people do

[wicked delta]

?????

[rain geode]

M10S is not that hard people

[whole estuary]

when we asked the donation takers for a receipt, they couldn't give one, so my sister went inside the store to get one while I watched the stuff. except the store manager said "we don't have anyone out there right now, it must be those guys again"

[stray forge]

AGAIB

[whole estuary]

and evidently he didn't feel safe enough to go out to meet them again unarmed

[stray forge]

[whole estuary]

they had already driven off in a panic though

[dapper zealot]

yeah, all you need is a steel pipe to scare them off

[whole estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/ronununu-silent-hill-f-hinako-konami-neobards-entertainment-gif-7727823574548917538

[rain geode]

?

[rapid whale]

@stray forge is this u and the opps

[wicked delta]

[dapper zealot]

read up

[stray forge]

[clear plume]

cant rly do this without delaying 1m to where you wont get it at enrage

[robust shoal]

simply don't hit enrage

[remote gate]

do you guys like final fantasy xiv

[zealous meteor]

no its fucking ass

dogshit game

[vestal hollow]

i thought this was a wow discord

[wicked delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324875688800424090/1394021853059874908/togif.gif

[rain geode]

Im kinda turning around on it

[clear plume]

this is a league of legends discord now

[rain geode]

No I definitely hate league of legends more

[clear plume]

thats the first step to being in a league of legends discord see

[wicked delta]

LOL players hate the game

[rain geode]

Why would you join a league discord

[wicked delta]

Id join for emotes

[remote gate]

the response speed was impressive here

[wicked delta]

Im in a Overwatch competitive server just for emotes

[clear plume]

im still in pokemon unite comp scene discord

[rain geode]

Im mean Im doing some skilling in runescape so its easy to keep an eye on chat

[craggy marsh]

No this is a Warframe server now

[rain geode]

thats not a league discord, you can play unite for the lols since it just happens to be one switch but why would you ever play league if you didnt have buddiess who play it?

[craggy marsh]

Who up Gaussing their Grendel

[clear plume]

make buddies on league

[rain geode]

Then again Im learning there isnt much reason to play this game without a static but in league its more front loaded

[rain geode]

LMAO

[rapid whale]

idk i pf'd the tier just fine

i still do random clears in pf just for fun

[clear plume]

ive been to the homies weddings of people ive met on league

[rain geode]

Thats insane in my experience people only really speak up in league to call you slurs

[remote gate]

thank fucking god I have a reason to play warframe now

[clear plume]

i thought being friends is calling each other slurs?

[vestal hollow]

warframe's gonna have a fat lady frame soon

[rapid whale]

oomfie is a slur?

[rain geode]

I dont understand how anyone can get teammates that clear lol I get stuck in M10S reclears every week and its draining all the fun of the game from me

[rapid whale]

idk unlucky gacha

[rain geode]

There a big differnce before calling someone who became your friend a slur and call random people a slur

[clear plume]

god i have the funniest youtube video for this but i cant post it here

[rapid whale]

send

[rain geode]

and for the most part people on league make it clear they mean it as an insult

[craggy marsh]

BBW frame cant wait

[clear plume]

its midbeast reacting to the tarzaned perma ban

[vestal hollow]

sadly i hate her

[craggy marsh]

Grendel, Follie, and Hildryn all on the same team

[rain geode]

it got the point (back when I played league) I would just /mute all at the start of every game

[craggy marsh]

Team BIG

[remote gate]

ember?

[craggy marsh]

Whenever I play League I let people just say slurs and insult me bc they're just words it's not like they can actually mean anything. But at the end of every match I make sure to call them unemployed neets and that sets them off

It feels good

[rain geode]

I dunno its weird I dont really know what I want to happen
The fights to be easier? No. they're already a bit to easy I feel
PF to be better? Theres no way to actually make that happen
Join a static? Way to late for that

[craggy marsh]

Naah she too basic and other frames do what she does but better

Wisp on the other hand tho

[remote gate]

but shes the original

[vestal hollow]

original what

[craggy marsh]

Original fire frame I guess

[rapid whale]

to grow more patient /s

idk pf isnt for everyone

i know plenty of great players who would never wanna pf

[rain geode]

I mean not a horrible answer

[rapid whale]

totally understandable

[craggy marsh]

Next expac im gonna actually try and get a static that can stay together all expac instead of just splitting after 1 tier

Bc man it sucks to have a different static for every tier

[rain geode]

Although ironically an answer that takes time

[remote gate]

i tried man 😭😭

[rain geode]

Its just annoying I want to clear but cant and it doesnt feel like there's anything I can do to change that and its frustrating just have to accept I either have to torture myself through PF or unsub

[zealous meteor]

[rapid whale]

i mean

yea thats kinda how it goes

its not under your control so you either accept that fate or ask for help

such is life and all that jazz

[rain geode]

Its just annoying because the fights are fun

[rapid whale]

the thing is like

[rain geode]

They should make the fights worse so I just dont want to do them ezpz

[rapid whale]

even in a static

that is by no means a guarantee you clear

a lot of ppl are under the assumption that any static is better than pf but that simply isnt the case

[wicked delta]

as long as you have people involved things always have a chance to go to shit

[rain geode]

I mean in theory sure you can have bad people in your pf

[rapid whale]

theres always gonna be a slowest member in a static, and those who think their static doesnt have any slow members are the slow member

[wicked delta]

sometimes its not even a skill thing

[zealous meteor]

a static will have a more conssitent skill level. which can easily mean consistently bad

[wicked delta]

sometimes people just dont get along

and a static falls apart that way

[zealous meteor]

people... they ruined multiplayer games...

[rapid whale]

its just one of those, "comes with the territory" moments

team game means the outcome is never 100% under your control

that's just the nature of raiding

[rain geode]

But Im willing to bet in practice even the weaker statics are gonna do better then pf generally lol

[rapid whale]

shrug

[wicked delta]

meh

[rapid whale]

depends on how you measure it

[remote gate]

uhh

[wicked delta]

i dont think so

[craggy marsh]

Well

[rapid whale]

i cleared in pf week 2

there are statics that may never clear the tier

[zealous meteor]

girl who has never been in a static voice:

[wicked delta]

just from the aspect that statics are held back by shit like reclears

[remote gate]

😭

[craggy marsh]

In my experience I've been in some B A D statics

[wicked delta]

and also

some ppl dont practice outside of static hours

[rapid whale]

yuh

[vestal hollow]

shoutout to mango's cw experience LOL

[wicked delta]

so that means if you have a static that gets together for like

4 hrs in the week

nothing is done

[rapid whale]

so legendary, dnc went full anakin 'I HATE YOU'

[wicked delta]

in all the time you wait

[craggy marsh]

"Yeah getting to M8 week 1 isn't an accomplishment"

[wicked delta]

at that point pf would just be faster

[craggy marsh]

Fucking pissed me off

[wicked delta]

and more reliable

[low hearth]

[remote gate]

2 hrs twice a week

[wicked delta]

you can filter people in pf by kicking them or blacklisting

[craggy marsh]

How fucking braindamaged do you have to be to undermine someone else's accomplishment just bc of your ego

[wicked delta]

statics not so easily

[rapid whale]

basically, the range of statics is as wide (if not wider) than the range in PF

[wicked delta]

all this to say that it Depends

lol

[rapid whale]

my argument for statics being potentially wider is at least in PF you get kinda filtered via time

[vestal hollow]

if you think statics are a guaranteed chance of clearing you are delusional

[rapid whale]

as weeks go by the players sort themselves

[mossy eagle]

Posting old reliable: good static > good PF > bad PF > bad static

[vestal hollow]

statics just offer consistency (consistently good or bad)

[rapid whale]

but you have plenty of statics that have a mix of veterans + first timers

and those are usually in the "lucky if they clear the tier before the next major patch" types

cuz ya clearing a tier on patch for first tier ever is v good

[rain geode]

I mean Im sure there are statics worse then my best PFs
but Im willing to bet the average static is going to be better then the average PF

[worn bluff]

where's my carry

[rapid whale]

i disagree

[rapid whale]

brother you blist me

[vestal hollow]

that is a delusional take

[worn bluff]

i only have like 2 people on my blist

[rapid whale]

so im special uwu

[worn bluff]

[wicked delta]

30 years old

[slender lichen]

no

[low hearth]

Bad statics suck ass !

[worn bluff]

you must be the BRD that wanted to prog p2 blind and left

[slender lichen]

the average static = the average pf bc theyre all ff14 players

[rapid whale]

the bottom of the PF barrel at least is self motivated ; the bottom of static barrel has ppl who "just wanna try for fun" etc, or 'dragged along by friends and suffers fomo" types

like they dont actually want to raid they just want to hang out with the besties

[rain geode]

you really think and equal number of PFs and Static clears exist for M12S?

[rapid whale]

i mean

top end statics is disproportionately gonnja be represented rn

if you mean on week 20 yeah actually

i would think pf m12s clears would far far outweight static

[vestal hollow]

brother the good players are in statics

[wicked delta]

if the statics havent cleared yet then i doubt they'll be any faster than the average pf andy

[dapper zealot]

Imagine WF in PF

[wicked delta]

at this point, i mean

[vestal hollow]

that isnt how statistics and logic works tew

[rain geode]

yes thats me point the good players are in statics

[mossy eagle]

It's a bit of fool's errand to compare "average" static to "average" PF clear time.

Statics will ultimately be limited in their hours unless they're HC. PFers can degen for several weeks and clear

[rapid whale]

if this is the stance you are taking, what % of statics do you think fall into that category

[rain geode]

I mean I dont have an exact number is there a way to grab that?

[rapid whale]

being in a static alone absolutely does not make someone a good player and id on't think that's what you are trying to argue

im asking abotu your perception

because you seem to be operating off the belief that a static is somehow better but to what degree is what im trying to figure out

i have seen many statics implode

i have seen many statics get absolutely filtered by m6s last tier

[wicked delta]

hell

for this tier

its m11s

[rapid whale]

the thing with statics is there's almost always a few weaker players getting compensated for , which is natural and normal

[craggy marsh]

ya even good statics can get filtered

[rapid whale]

but when fights raise the floor level to clear, those statics suffer

i could mak the argument m11s is the poster child of that example

the fight doesnt require a particularly high ceiling but its one of the highest floors we've had in quite some time

[rain geode]

Sure but its not like PF hasnt also been suffering on M11S and PF is still suffering generally on M10S

[rapid whale]

yes

[vestal hollow]

genuinely curious why you think a static is a guaranteed chance of clearing a tier, or a fight even?

[rain geode]

?

[zealous meteor]

what?

[rain geode]

Statics arent a guaranteed clear wdym

[rapid whale]

to reframe, what do you make of my own wk2 pf clear

was i just "lucky"?

[slender lichen]

"the good players are in statics" and "the average static is better than pf" can be exclusive

the "good players" are not the "average static"

[mossy eagle]

I feel like this argument has shifted and morphed over the past like 3 minutes

[rapid whale]

valid

[rain geode]

I wouldnt say "just" as you obviously still need to be good enough to clear

[wicked delta]

hi chiyo

[rapid whale]

idk my main point was just that believing the reason you ahvent cleared yet is because you aren't in a static is a bit ermge

[jolly flume]

here's my take: if you are good enough to genuinely complain about pf and not be a hypocrite, you should've been in a static of similar skill level

is that what we were talking about

idk

I read 0 context

day #168293363 of pf vs static discourse

[rapid whale]

if that isnt the stance you were taking then mb for misunderstanding

[slender lichen]

the average static is not hardcore w1 players

[rapid whale]

its true

[slender lichen]

the exceptionally good ppl that you believe are in statics have recruited a year in advance

the statics that recruit 1-2 months in advance of a tier are the "average static"

[mossy eagle]

If I had to guess, most people who clear W1 do it through a static rather than PF, but that's not a representative slice of PF or statics

[violet cairn]

pf has me chained to ultimate weapon prog whereas my static is on stampede cleanup, and I cry everytime I die to charybdistopia cleaves because of it

[rapid whale]

wk1 in general is a far outlier from "the average savage raider" if im being real

whether its pf or static

[slender lichen]

and there is almost always a fight that walls both pf and statics

[mossy eagle]

Hi it's me average savage raider

[slender lichen]

case in point m11s

everyone is walled

[jolly flume]

easy statistic: if you clear week 1 you clear ahead of >90% of people who eventually clear the tier on content

source: tomestone the goat

[wicked delta]

was there a fight that walled ppl in lhw

lol

i feel like only m4s gets close but i dunno

[rapid whale]

honey b lovely

[jolly flume]

is there any fight that doesn't find a way to wall people

[zealous meteor]

man. i wish i was playing for LHW
maybe i could've cleared month 1

[low hearth]

No

[wicked delta]

man that shit was a normal mode

[violet cairn]

pheromones 2 my beloved filter mechanic

[jolly flume]

or rather people find a way to get walled by it

not the other way around

[zealous meteor]

vamp stomp is a wall tbh

[mossy eagle]

If you're wondering when median FFXIV player clears a tier, my stats are quite representative

[jolly flume]

the average player clears the tier like...now

[mossy eagle]

Cruiserweight was fairly similar to EW raid tiers. Anywhere around week 5-8 is putting you right in the middle of the pack depending on tier's difficulty. LHW was obviously abnormal

[rapid whale]

ehhhhh i think it can technically be pushed even further because a lot of the clears that happen in later weeks is like

[jolly flume]

week 5 going on 6

[rain geode]

I dunno can't predict alternate realities

[worn bluff]

i don't think an unproductive static with all friends is bottom of the barrel, bc at least you're (hopefully) having fun with friends

i think bottom of the barrel is strangers that don't like each other and don't make prog

[rapid whale]

7 helpers 1 clearee type shit

[dapper zealot]

It's only week 5?

[low hearth]

Damn everybody cleared lhw 😭

[dapper zealot]

It feels like it's been months

[jolly flume]

week 5 is technically months

1 month(s)

[rapid whale]

idk at least if they all suck but are trying but failing to make prog theres like, the mindset

but ive seen statics where a few members were literally just there to do an activity with SO and it's like so clear they hate raiding

those seemed miserable af

[worn bluff]

you took months to clear the tier (0 months)

[mossy eagle]

It's only bottom of the barrel if you didn't vet the static hard enough and you're more tryhard than them

99% of static problems stem from "we didn't communicate expectations"

[rain geode]

In particular Im willing to bet reclears are generally easier in a static. since you already know the group can clear

[rapid whale]

so true

[jolly flume]

a trial is as much you trialing the group as the group trialing you

I think a lot of people don't take it that way

[worn bluff]

yeah i just mean playing with friends can still be fun even if slow prog, if everyone has similar expectations. i don't think that's inherently bottom of the barrel

[wicked delta]

i wouldnt be able to be in a static where people dont talk

that would be a big deal to me

[jolly flume]

would you be able to be in a static with me

[rapid whale]

what if they do talk but in a separate vc

[jolly flume]

you'd get ragebaited ten hours a week

[mossy eagle]

Yep it goes in both directions. I once trialed against a guy who parsed quite a bit better than me and was also more consistent. The problem is that the static was definitely more "midcore" whatever the hell that means. So he dipped after two weeks.

[wicked delta]

well you're good so i would try to not call you slurs

[jolly flume]

try (and fail)

[wicked delta]

positive mental attitude

[jolly flume]

pma...

[mossy eagle]

If you're going to take people significantly better than your static's average performance, both sides really need to understand what they're getting into

[rapid whale]

what happened

[rain geode]

I dont call people slurs even when their bad actually

[rapid whale]

i mean i hope not

[whole estuary]

but you say meowdy

[mossy eagle]

Let's not normalize calling people slurs

hot take

[jolly flume]

what are you doing wh*te mage

[rain geode]

Meow

[vestal hollow]

i call people slurs when theyre better than me

[mossy eagle]

let's leave that in the 90's through 10's

[vestal hollow]

nah

[rapid whale]

the 90s when everything was gay

[vestal hollow]

reclaimed slurs are epic

[mossy eagle]

If I am in a gay static that's one thing

[rapid whale]

what is a gay static

[jolly flume]

what were the olden times like gramps

[mossy eagle]

I do not believe my usual static mates with a history of LoL deserve reclaimed slurs

[mossy eagle]

Static where everyone is from Faerie

[rapid whale]

we used to do something called "burning cd's" where we would put together pirated play lists, on a cd, and give th em to our crushes and be like, "this represents my feelings for you"

[jolly flume]

what da helly

[craggy marsh]

In my cruiserweight week 1 static I had a very ego driven static lead who made me feel like shit and said that me being happy for making it to m8 week 1 was a bad thing and I shouldn't be happy just bc I didn't clear

[mossy eagle]

I still have my high school lavender marriage's mixtapes

She put some fire shit together

[wicked delta]

i still burned cds until like 2020

[zealous meteor]

?????

kill them

[rapid whale]

i was being a pos and

[rain geode]

Actually Statics are always at least as good as PF since if its really bad you can leave the static and go PF :p

[craggy marsh]

It's okay they were one of the people who developed a massive ego just bc LHW was "easy"

[rapid whale]

that static lead and their bnuy dont raid together anymore

the one they fed gear to lmfao

[wicked delta]

like

[shadow pilot]

What is LHW

[craggy marsh]

His first and only week 1 was LHW which explains a lot

[rapid whale]

light heavyweight aka first tier

[zealous meteor]

that's not how it works

[vestal hollow]

he wanted to disband the static because they didnt clear the tier w1 which made like no sense right

[wicked delta]

the vtuber gf?

[craggy marsh]

Y E A H

[shadow pilot]

Lmaooooo

[rapid whale]

idk wat they were i just saw the accounts

[craggy marsh]

Yeah it was fucking stupid bc we would've had it down week 2

[rain geode]

I mean strickly speaking thats true

[craggy marsh]

but he for some reason has the Rin Karigane mindset where unless it's week 1 then it doesnt matter

which made the whole static feel awful

[rapid whale]

bro really thought they were good because they week 1'd light heavy weight

[craggy marsh]

he would get mad for people using the bathroom twice in a lockout

[worn bluff]

people have weird egos over video games sometimes

[rapid whale]

LMAO

BATHROOM

[zealous meteor]

[jolly flume]

incredibly many such cases

[jolly flume]

real gamers got bottles

[craggy marsh]

Which I get it, it was advertised as a week 1 group but getting to m8 week 1 is good enough tbh

[wicked delta]

i cant believe one of my friends tried to defend this guy lol he sounds like a total pos

[worn bluff]

maybe your static lead was the "vouch for me" guy

[craggy marsh]

easy week 2 clear

[craggy marsh]

oh he 100% was

he has the attention span of a goldfish

[rapid whale]

time to be an even bigger piece of shit and look them up and judge their numbers

[jolly flume]

well by his own standards

he didn't w1 cw so he's trash

[rain geode]

Judging someone by their own standard is entirely fair

[clear plume]

My casual group from last tier has been stuck on 10s for 4 weeks and made like, 10% boss hp diff in the last 3.

[craggy marsh]

From what I remember hearing his gf doesn't wanna raid with him in week 1 anymore bc she doesn't want "drama" even tho the entire thing could've been avoided if she turned off stream

[clear plume]

Friend who invited me must be having a good time bc they asked for a 10s cf1 yesterday kekw

[versed kayak]

something tells me he'd be making loads of excuses for why that is

[rapid whale]

yeahhhhhhhhh mannnnnn elite playerrrrrrr

gearfed samurai

getting blues

soooooo elite

[craggy marsh]

The best part? The gf was saying everyone who was siding against her and the static lead were "sexist"

[clear plume]

Same group with me last tier was on 8s by now

[rapid whale]

i can help too if they want it tonight

[craggy marsh]

elite week 1 hardcore raider getting back to back blues

kekek

[rain geode]

unironically Im kinda reaching the point where at least for my reclears Im fine w/ blues honestly as long as I dont get like 4+ people in grey damage I consider that and insanely good pf

[rapid whale]

nono tew you dont understand

the context is very diff

[craggy marsh]

for the record getting a blue is fine

[rapid whale]

they are a gearfed samurai

[rain geode]

oh

[rapid whale]

they have had bis since week 2

and in 5 weeks of reclears

they have yet to break blue

[craggy marsh]

but the person who is getting these blues is someone who thinks high parses are the sign of a good player and if you get bad parses then you should give up raiding

[rapid whale]

yet watn to claim elite level performance

[clear plume]

Nah they already got it from people and I am no longer friends with them (I am an asshole for not cancelling a vacation for the reclear schedule I had planned before agreeing to help the group) it’s just funny to hate watch.

[rapid whale]

that too

[rain geode]

oh like not even one bad run like this is their best runs

[rapid whale]

ya

thats their best runs over 5 weeks of reclears

4 of which u can expect them to be in full bis

aka they are by no means as good of a player as they think they are

which is fine, but they shit on others

[clear plume]

Crazy how my alts ninja parses r better

[rapid whale]

im saying

nobody gives a shit if you arent the best thats whatever

but when u shit on others for it and then put up numbers like that

lol

[craggy marsh]

Ya

[clear plume]

(Okay they’re basically the same but still)

[craggy marsh]

I can't imagine playing a video game and having a huge ego over it

legit jobless behavior

[worn bluff]

many such cases

[rapid whale]

true

[jolly flume]

my alt is basically equivalent and its 773

[craggy marsh]

And I know for a fact he's jobless bc he raged at me for telling him to get a job instead of worrying about a week 1 clear

[zealous meteor]

only a 53? washed

[craggy marsh]

he acted like without a week 1 clear his life means nothing

it's so fucking sad man

[rapid whale]

i mean even if that were the case why take it out on the people who tried to help make it happen

[rain geode]

Maybe a change in strategy in PF is also called for I should probably just start leaving after 3 pulls

at least for reclears

[craggy marsh]

He had the gall to blame me for the static failing btw

[rapid whale]

LMAO

[craggy marsh]

bc he was "busy helping me clear FRU" in the weeks leading up to CHW

[rapid whale]

??????????

[zealous meteor]

picking on the lalafell

[craggy marsh]

So he "didn't have time to recruit people"

[worn bluff]

perfectly reasonable. no one gets mad over that in reclears

[craggy marsh]

Fucker we cleared with 2 months to spare before the tier

[rapid whale]

bro acts like recruiting people is like fryign a fish what

[craggy marsh]

ya

[rapid whale]

nono but like even if it was the day before

its not like you have to sit there staring at shit constantly

[stray forge]

fried fish? where

[rain geode]

Its also just everytime Ive recleared so far its been in like 3 pulls or it just failed lol

[craggy marsh]

he waited till 1 week prior to recruit and we never even did proper trials

[zealous meteor]

every second i don't spend staring at recruitment posts is WASTED

[rapid whale]

i ate it all get fucked

[craggy marsh]

it was "vibe checks"

I am never joining a static again that is based on "good vibes" when this is the shit I got

[rapid whale]

i forget who said it earlier but i think it ties back to the whole expectations thing

some people legitimately dgaf, clear whenever, long as we have fun

[craggy marsh]

LHW being too easy brought people into Cruiserweight with big egos thinking they'd have an easy time

[rapid whale]

as long as every person in the static is on that same page, it can be fine

[stray forge]

Compassion has no place in ruling. One must rule like a tyrant tbqh

[rapid whale]

but ive seen it happen about 8 times now where people claim they are "fine with clear whenever!" but then inevitably get frustrated when on the same fight for like 3-4 weeks

[rapid whale]

okay sun tzu

[jolly flume]

his pull counts in this tier are kind of abysmal lol

[craggy marsh]

my goal is clear by atleast week 8 with statics

I was spying on him during his prog and he got walled on m11 (lol lmao) and barely squeaked out a week 1 clear

[stray forge]

We r still going to be on tyrant

[rapid whale]

they didnt week 1 tho

[rain geode]

yeah I think people need to be more honest generally speaking

[stray forge]

By week 8

[craggy marsh]

oh he didn't?

[jolly flume]

oh he was actually in static with one of the people that applied to our group lol

[craggy marsh]

Hell yeah get fucked

[rapid whale]

they did the cheese where they instance in before reset and clear after, but it "counts as last week"

its after reset

but it reads as week 1

[craggy marsh]

I tried putting myself up for statics this tier but I got rejected bc I didn't clear last tier

felt really bad

[wicked delta]

i think my pull count for m10 was pretty ok

i wish it was a little faster but eh

[rapid whale]

now that we're on the topic of pull count time to look them up again

[stray forge]

Why r ppl obsessed with week 1

Is it for loot

[wicked delta]

accomplishment

[stray forge]

Like max loot as early as you can

[wicked delta]

you get loot faster

[craggy marsh]

it's the accomplishment

[rapid whale]

ah i think they quit..

[craggy marsh]

but some people need to learn that they aren't week 1 material

[wicked delta]

nothing but benefits to clear week 1 lol

[rapid whale]

they still havent gone back in

[craggy marsh]

week 2 is just as fine as week 1

[jolly flume]

clearing the fight at max difficulty is a neat personal accomplishment

that's all

[stray forge]

He’s playing nioh vro

[versed kayak]

what about week 43

[rain geode]

My M10S pull count was embaressingly bad

[wicked delta]

damn bruh

maybe my pull count is ok

[stray forge]

Idrc about pull counts or early clears that sounds like a fast track to investing too much in the game

[jolly flume]

that's the neat part

the better you play

the less you have to play the game

we clear week 1 = we don't have to put in 10 hours a week of prog for the next 6 weeks doing it slowly

[rain geode]

Then again finding 7 strangers who could get through areana split was something else

[worn bluff]

that can also be a neat personal accomplishment

[stray forge]

I mean I don’t think people who are taking 6 weeks to clear are playing 10 hours a week

[jolly flume]

most people who pf probably play more than that

and they are just now clearing, if even that

[versed kayak]

(I was still in EW msq when DT came out, I didn't even finish DT until december lol)

[rain geode]

depends on if your counting time doing reclears or not

[craggy marsh]

This is my M11 and I feel like this isn't too bad atleast to me

[stray forge]

I was talking about statics

Pf is just a different creature

[versed kayak]

I pfed the first two fights, decided its not worth it in week 100 million so I stopped until I joined a blind mine static for the last two

[rain geode]

Honestly tho fuck reclears

[versed kayak]

PFing lhw super late made me start playing gw2 because it just wasn't worth the wait

[worn bluff]

the neat thing is that no one who matters cares when you beat something in a game. unless you’re applying to a group

[jolly flume]

my gf will leave me if I don't clear week 1.

[stray forge]

Is ur gf a Limsa catgirl

[versed kayak]

yee, altough its a shame I can never get a parse for the savages

[stray forge]

Who needs a fru carry

[jolly flume]

I wouldn't date a catgirl

[versed kayak]

since we wait until the tier unlocks so we dont have to bother with reclears, since we dont want the gear anyway

[wicked delta]

i need a fru carry

[stray forge]

Oh a gridanian lizard girl

[versed kayak]

also quick question, does someone have a plogon to auto skip msq cutscenes? need it for my alt

[clear plume]

Statistically, ur gf is more likely to leave u if you try to w1 but fail bc the weekend stress gets frfr

[jolly flume]

textadvance

[craggy marsh]

I trialed for a group a few weeks ago but I could tell I was cooked when the person they trialed after me had already cleared m11 and was on m12s enrage

[jolly flume]

/at enable

the goat

[versed kayak]

ah yes, splatoon for quests

[clear plume]

Most trials are less about skill and more about vibes tbqh

[rain geode]

honestly even my M9S pull count was inexcusably bad

[clear plume]

At least any trial that the leader knows what they’re doing

[stray forge]

Freshwater freekin it

[jolly flume]

it literally draws a line under to you towards the next quest objective lmao

[craggy marsh]

My voice is semi squeaker levels but there's nothing I can do about it

[versed kayak]

why the fuck lol

[craggy marsh]

[stray forge]

I just saw a video of an Eastern European woman trying to catch a sharpened blade with her bare hands

[craggy marsh]

how'd that work out for her

[stray forge]

Not very well

[dull drum]

welcome to the world of managing multiple alts because its 2026 and i still have to slog my way through msq on an alt

[clear plume]

People who enjoy raiding with a group will catch up in skill relatively fast if you work with them but an asshole that’s good will always be an assshole

[craggy marsh]

nice

[versed kayak]

ye I'll definitely just stick with one

[clear plume]

Basically just designed off of wow addons for alts there

[craggy marsh]

"Idc if the person is an asshole I just care if they raid good" some weird takes i've heard during my time raiding in this game

[stray forge]

Carbonite

[craggy marsh]

wouldn't it be better if someone raided good and was also a nice person

[clear plume]

If the leader has that approach, fucking RUN

The people who r good and also nice don’t tend to look for groups long

[stray forge]

Translation: I want an environment where I can comfortably say slurs

[clear plume]

They get invites or get to pick where they apply themselves basically

[craggy marsh]

i'm a nice person but "good" player idk

[wicked delta]

vamp took me more pulls than the bj bros 💀

[craggy marsh]

but i've never really had someone say i'm good or bad

[rain geode]

I'm an alright player I feel and I typically try to be a nice person

[craggy marsh]

so I just defer to my own self defeatest attitude

[rain geode]

Im generally at least able to if I have a problem with someone keep it to myself

[stray forge]

I’m literally the meanest person you’ll ever meet on the internet

[jolly flume]

every good group I've gotten into has been just because I know people who know other people

[stray forge]

Always angry

[wicked delta]

i think im pretty bad at this game

lol

[stray forge]

Bad vibes only

[jolly flume]

bapple got into our group because he knew us

just know people it's the easiest way

[craggy marsh]

I think that's the real secret ya

just be friends with the right people

[stray forge]

||nepotism|| it’s just like jobs!

[rain geode]

Im sadly not known for my knowing

[stray forge]

🙂

[craggy marsh]

i'm friends with some good players here but their statics are always filled when I ask them if they have a spot open

[wicked delta]

like i think im better than duty finder players but better than the average raider? dont think so

[jolly flume]

it's kinda nepotism but we still wouldn't take people if we didn't believe they could perform

[craggy marsh]

[jolly flume]

but if we know someone that takes some of the guesswork out of if they'll be a personality fit and all that

and we also have fairly good insight into how they play already

[dull drum]

im always getting yelled at in ffxiv

[rain geode]

Like for all my complaints I wouldnt actually want to make any of the random pfers Ive been complaining about feel bad? I just want to clear.

[clear plume]

And you tell bapple to gold by next tier or he gets castrated right?

[wicked delta]

you deserve it bruh

[jolly flume]

did you see what noble did to bapple the other day

[stray forge]

I wish I could yell at you but idk who you actually are

[dull drum]

@rapid whale are you joining a hardcore for upcoming ulti

[craggy marsh]

I wanna get my numbers up so good statics or players might consider me but pf randos giving party wide DD's doesn't help me with that

[jolly flume]

hes already fucking dead bro

no need for anything more

[craggy marsh]

but also idk what a "good parse" even is for some people

but I feel like purple is good

[wicked delta]

bro was just excited to share some news icant

[dull drum]

stella astera @ cactuar please drop off pipebombs via moogle mail

[clear plume]

KEKW

[jolly flume]

I literally snorted

so hard

[clear plume]

That’s fucking

[stray forge]

Pipe

[clear plume]

Amazing

Holy shit

[rain geode]

theres fight context but generally purple I feel is "fine" damage

[dull drum]

i cant hit a 99

[stray forge]

Tbh

[wicked delta]

if i ever hit a 99 id be screaming lmao

[stray forge]

That’s a good question

What color realistically

Would net a clear if an entire party got that color

Does it need to be green or blue

[jolly flume]

high gray

lol

[stray forge]

Damn

[rapid whale]

i thought it was because i was a prodigy now my dreams are ruined

[stray forge]

That’s kinda sad

[wicked delta]

idk high greys can clear

lol

[rapid whale]

idk about hard core

but ya imma run with them

[dull drum]

i wouldnt because i realized the truth

if you avg 90-95 then hitting the 99 is just kt and crit

[wicked delta]

yeah im not at that level so

[dull drum]

or super optimization to squeeze out a gcd or whatnot

[clear plume]

My group leader is trying to convince us to take a week off to HC prog the ulti

[rain geode]

Im gonna be honest I dont think Ive ever played a multiplayer game with crits and been happy they exist

[jolly flume]

I mean yeah you're good at the game but how many groups would've taken you without question with your experience compared to us just because we know you're capable from playing with you beforehand

nepotism works wonders

[rapid whale]

yeah nah i was jk lmfao

[wicked delta]

hitting 90 alone would make me very happy

[jolly flume]

same shit with me

[dull drum]

bro wdym wasnt your pf hours basically hardcore

[craggy marsh]

nepo baby bapple

[dull drum]

💀💀💀

[rapid whale]

i know my resume sucks ass for the level of play i wanna be in

[clear plume]

But I don’t wanna stop going to the gym for hc ulti prog bc who cares about it when we are gonna get world first or anything

[stray forge]

I will never spend more than 1 day of vacation time on video games tbh

[rapid whale]

jealousy is unbecoming

[jolly flume]

I got adopted into my first w1 group with 0 on content experience

[craggy marsh]

literally me

[jolly flume]

knowing ppl is op

[rain geode]

I only spend vacation time on games what else would I spend it on lol

[craggy marsh]

It sucks bc I know people but the tank spots are always filled instantly

[stray forge]

....?

VACATIONS?

[clear plume]

I joked about it earlier when somebody asked how to get into a good group but my answer was legit true

[stray forge]

[dull drum]

family?

[versed kayak]

all of my current statics are from knowing someone, its neat, didnt need tryouts or anything

[stray forge]

Family, traveling with friends

[clear plume]

“Just do criterion a bunch and you’ll meet some group leader willing to nepo you in”

[stray forge]

shit, traveling with family (I would never tho)

[clear plume]

There is nothing raid leaders in this game love more than criterion

[stray forge]

Criterion Collection

[versed kayak]

criterions are fucking amazing so

[craggy marsh]

I had a friend who gave me the power of nepotism but I think he quit raiding

[rain geode]

Traveling is to rich for my blood

[jolly flume]

criterion peam

[rain geode]

and my family doesnt exactly like me

[rapid whale]

criterion savag eis another piece of content i wanna do all roles challenge before 8.0 on

[craggy marsh]

I wanna do criterion savage in general

but I nervous

[stray forge]

I had to take a week off for surgery

[rain geode]

and if I had cash to travel it would be for regional/international pokemon TCG tournaments so it would still be for gaming lmao

[versed kayak]

just practice the normal a bunch and its basically the same + some extra mits and heals

[rapid whale]

was it to take the freak out

[versed kayak]

and well, dont get hit

[clear plume]

I just sell American military secrets to China and they let me travel there for free

Banger deal would recommend

[rapid whale]

lmfao

[stray forge]

It was to remove my brain

[craggy marsh]

I have a surgery in may and i'm scared

[rapid whale]

prayge

[rain geode]

also traveling just seems like more effort then its worth

[craggy marsh]

it's either gonna be a good one or a bad one

[clear plume]

Travelling isn’t much effort ngl

[stray forge]

Hell no I love checking out other places

[clear plume]

You just show up and find a place to sleep (optional)

[stray forge]

and I'm one of those people who can make it a week with like a large backpack

ez

[jolly flume]

yeah it's pretty chill

I pack super light

[dull drum]

https://www.twitch.tv/itrolledu/clip/CleverSourButterOhMyDog-w6zN2ET8HT3osWAV

smh ken

[clear plume]

You don’t need an itinerary for every day of a multi week thing

[jolly flume]

chargers laptop couple sets of clothes and toiletries

then go explore

wahoo

[clear plume]

Figure out some things you wanna do, and you’ll meet locals who have suggestions

Make some friends

[stray forge]

I did once get stuck in a hostel with like

[dull drum]

they called me a gaijin in japan

[stray forge]

a group of ppl from spain who were like running around and banging all night

that was

an experience

THAT WAS IN THE NETHERLANDS TOO

THE DUTCH

[rain geode]

Actually now that I think about it its been almost a decade since I was further away then a state that shares a border with my home

[stray forge]

[dull drum]

did i ever tell you about that friend who left japan early bc he couldnt get easy access to e cigs + pizza and boba

[jolly flume]

yes

I called him a word I can't say here

[dull drum]

bro never travelled in his life and it showed

immediately home sick day 1

💀💀

[stray forge]

???? Pizza?

[dull drum]

you know the crazy part

[stray forge]

What the fuck

[clear plume]

wtf does he mean can’t find boba

[dull drum]

he left early to be with his girlfriend

guess what

[stray forge]

PIZZA?

[dull drum]

she dumped him yday

[jolly flume]

gg.

[dull drum]

happy singles day

[rain geode]

I dunno Traveling could be fun but I think more often then not Id rather stay home and chill

[stray forge]

Pizza....

[dull drum]

yeah

[rapid whale]

i mean they sound like a literal manchild so

[craggy marsh]

am happy i'm going to fanfest atleast

that'll be fun

[rapid whale]

o you got tickets? nicee

[dull drum]

basically cried called his mom (22 years old btw) that we excluded him from group activities and stuff

[craggy marsh]

ye

[stray forge]

Traveling....and then just instantly defaulting to pizza instead of local cuisine....

[clear plume]

There is a gong cha in like every block and mall you can find in tokyo bro is crazy if he couldn’t find one

[rapid whale]

japan of all places too, considered the mecca of good eats

[stray forge]

p...i....zza.... okay I'll stop

[dull drum]

i got good pizza in japan so idk what he was smoking

we literally found it like

a day later

[vestal hollow]

must be nice.

[rapid whale]

not ecigs thats for srue

[craggy marsh]

fanfest and then 2 weeks later I get a chunk of my colon removed

[dull drum]

oh fuck

[rain geode]

man Im glad I dont smoke

[dull drum]

fanfest is in my town this year

[rain geode]

if nothing else

[dull drum]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shaking-dog-wobbling-artqngel-gif-21411744

welcome to anaheim

[sinful brook]

Mostly anywhere in Asia tbh

[rapid whale]

u should just sneak in

[dull drum]

nah anaheim is like 50/50

[jolly flume]

I'm going to japan again as a graduation trip this summer but I had to push it back a month or so because of the ultimate kekw

[dull drum]

you either get mugged or its disneyland territory

[rapid whale]

its across the street from disneyland

just walk in bro

[dull drum]

i forgot if the convention center was in disney territory

yeah

just dont go to the other half of anaheim

[jolly flume]

ngl when I was considering going to fanfest

[clear plume]

They shop for cheapest place so

[jolly flume]

I was gonna ask if I could just crash at ur place lol

[clear plume]

I have a home in Beverly if it was in LA

But Anaheim is a little far

[stray forge]

I went to a music festival in like a place in Baltimore where the Chinese food restaurant had drug deals and bullet proof glass

Interesting place

[clear plume]

But bapple should show up for lcs game watching some time frfr

[stray forge]

I should have gotten some Chinese food

With a side of Aether crystals

[rain geode]

but yeah I've always sorta viewed travelling for a vacation as a bit of hoity rich person thing. Not for the likes of me.

[jolly flume]

you can go some pretty cool places on

not insane sums of money

[sinful brook]

It's not really a rich person thing

[jolly flume]

but if you're not interested in the first place why bother

[sinful brook]

Small road trips are pretty accessible too

[versed kayak]

can also travel locally yeah

[stray forge]

This was in2016 but lik

[versed kayak]

dont need to actually fly somewhere or anything

[sinful brook]

Lots of neat local places

[stray forge]

I went to Iceland and spent s total of like

300 on flights + room and board for a week

[sinful brook]

Plane tickets are a scam anyways

[rapid whale]

im washed idk anything about league beyond season 3 lol

[versed kayak]

for the first like 14 years of my life our summer vaction was a 3 weeks at a farm near lake constance

was pretty neat

[sinful brook]

Bappletrees lcs wonner

[rapid whale]

i wish

i think my team was the worst in the history of the league

[stray forge]

Unfortunately I also got into a car with Latvians and spent like $220 on mysterious substances

[rain geode]

Thats a lot to just spend on something

[stray forge]

It’s 1/3 the price of a switch 2

[rapid whale]

this dude

[stray forge]

:)

[dull drum]

[jolly flume]

no need to gulp

I wont bring a blacklight

[stray forge]

I’m already drafting up the fanfic

[rain geode]

switch 2 is not 900 wut

[clear plume]

chiyo gonna show up in a maid outfit meowing

[jolly flume]

been there done that

minus the maid outfit

but I had cat ears

[rain geode]

I do have a maid outfit folded behind me rn

[stray forge]

Post selfie

[rain geode]

no I hate my face

[stray forge]

[clear plume]

my sister has one

[rain geode]

and my body

[stray forge]

I don’t have a maid outfit of all things actually

I don’t actually like how they look

[rain geode]

Maid outfits I think are one of the best things in the world

[stray forge]

Best I can do is cow bikini

[rain geode]

Those are also really good

[zealous meteor]

here's a selfie of me

[rain geode]

Playboy bunny outfits are also a favorite of mine but I dont have one of those

you sorta have to have the body for one of those but anyone can do a maid dress

[stray forge]

I swear I had a picture of a probably considered a controversial figure in this discord wearing a maid dress

[craggy marsh]

I have a maid outfit irl

[stray forge]

Hmm

[craggy marsh]

[rain geode]

same

[stray forge]

No one was surprised mango

[craggy marsh]

husband loves it

[stray forge]

Not a single one

[rain geode]

I dont have a husband so he doesnt have any feelings twords it

[stray forge]

Everyone should be assigned a romantic partner based on ffxiv parses

I’m going to keep cooking against your will

[jolly flume]

i'm down

my 99 parsing wife can yell at me to make dinner while she's raiding

[stray forge]

You get assigned Claire es

[jolly flume]

what the fuck

not like this

[rain geode]

no

[rapid whale]

gg

[rain geode]

you think Id want a romantic partner that plays XIV?

[stray forge]

So true breastie

I’ve dated one other person who also played video games

And we played tf2 together

[wicked delta]

gulp

single people suck

[jolly flume]

the girl I dated in hs picked up apex to play with me and the boys

I only regret not having better taste in games back then

[rain geode]

I know Im sorry Im the worst

[wicked delta]

glad you know that

[rain geode]

Apex is like... ok

[jolly flume]

she was also a league player

forever grateful I didn't contract that disease

[stray forge]

what he reaching for

[rain geode]

As someone whose recovered from the league disease yeah its the worst

honestly league just isnt a very fun game i general

[stray forge]

if you didn't play league with a 5stack of all asians in high school were you really asian

[rain geode]

League is only fun if your winning the game super hard

[wicked delta]

my only exposure to league for the longest time was a dude who was a total fucking creep

[rapid whale]

why would you age yourself like this

[wicked delta]

so i just assumed a lot of league players were weird af

[stray forge]

wdym

people still play tf2 today

[rapid whale]

kids these days dont know what tf2 is

[stray forge]

[wicked delta]

bapple

tf2 is still popular

[dapper zealot]

League if only fun when you're not playing it

[zealous meteor]

transport fever 2

[stray forge]

lol

[wicked delta]

💀

[low hearth]

bro doing anything but clearing m11s

[stray forge]

ur not wrong

[wicked delta]

I just realized

[remote gate]

let bro relax 🥀

[wicked delta]

Some of my pulls werent logged

[rapid whale]

difficulty enjoyers

[wicked delta]

[remote gate]

gacha pulls

[wicked delta]

I look like an ultimate weapon andy now bruh

Its fine

I still gotta practice

I’ll try to prog again after reclear

[remote gate]

which ult weapon you rocking toby

[wicked delta]

None of them they’re all ugly

[remote gate]

finally someone says it

[rapid whale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/its-sad-how-jealous-you-are-eric-cartman-1

[wicked delta]

Brother

They’re just ugly

[rapid whale]

nuh uh

[remote gate]

ucob weapons

[wicked delta]

I cant enjoy the weapons when I look at the amount of fucking pixels upclose

It looks so fug

[remote gate]

top weapons in ew

[wicked delta]

TOP weapons have it the worst

Which makes me sadgi cus I think the rpr weapon is cool af

Its just

😭

[remote gate]

240p

[rapid whale]

but a shiny 240p

[rain geode]

Ive been thinking about this for awhile and while I dont deal in absolutes I am comfortable saying if I was in a static at least somewhat around my skill level I would more likely be further then I am now. especially when the two things holding me back rn are willpower being drained by PFs constantly needing to disband and remake and having to do reclears.

[grand mesa]

always helps to know people

[stray forge]

I honestly get drained by swapping between m1 and m2

[slender lichen]

i mean thats literally the case for everyone ever

the thing is that there will always be at least 1 person in the static who is below your skill level

[vestal hollow]

thats a different argument from what you said initially

[slender lichen]

if i joined a static where all 7 people also understood mechanics on the 2nd or 3rd try then i too would have cleared the tier a long time ago

[stray forge]

theres like a certain point in the day where I just start spilling spaghetti everywhere because I've swapped so many times I literally forget which one I am lol

[rain geode]

well yeah taht what I mean by somewhat Im not literally saying 7 copies of me lmao

[rain geode]

not really

[slender lichen]

yes it is

[wicked delta]

If I had 7 copies of me we still wouldn’t have cleared the raidtier bc I would grief weapons

[slender lichen]

you were making a generalization about all statics

[low hearth]

It’s the same but mirrored 🤯

[stray forge]

I mean thats not what I was saying

I mean I literally have joined so many parties that by the end of the day I will literally forget which I am

which obv is the point where its time to log off

[low hearth]

Oh

[wicked delta]

I cant even lie swapping between R1/R2 has made me troll sometimes

Like after a pull or two I stop griefing but

Muscle memory is a bitch

[rapid whale]

tru

[rain geode]

?

[rapid whale]

i ve done m11s on every dps spot now and when i mess it up it's always such a AAAAAAA moment

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/only-a-sith-deals-in-absolutes-obi-wan-kenobi-obi-wan-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-26164762

[wicked delta]

The whole discussion started cus you said the average static is better than the average pf so thats why Cerb is saying that

Im not contributing to the conversation I have no real opinions on it regardless but thats why

[low hearth]

Idk pf is kinda chill

[grand mesa]

the average static is not better than the average pf

unless you make sure to vet people

i've been in plenty of awful statics that i'd have been better pfing

[low hearth]

it’s only annoying when 3 pull andys leave and the party explodes and you’re stuck waiting another hour to fill again

[wicked delta]

I cant stand ppl who only give a party 3 pulls

[rain geode]

so like... most of the time lmao

[wicked delta]

Ok tbf

[rapid whale]

ye i will say pull count per hr over a given night, static usually wins hands down

[wicked delta]

Depends on what we’re wiping to

[low hearth]

Unless some outrageous wipe happens

[wicked delta]

But generally I will give like

1 food timer

[grand mesa]

I disbanded a pf because my shield healer just refused to press the right buttons

and gave me attitude when I called them out on it

[rapid whale]

i've left pf because someone messed up 3x in a row and refused to take accountability before

[grand mesa]

turns out the person has been raiding for 8 years and has not cleared a single final floor

so it checks out

[rapid whale]

classic

[robust shoal]

big oof

[wicked delta]

That’s pretty bad

[rapid whale]

whats it called again when ppl assume long time playing = skill

[rain geode]

Veteran bias?

[rapid whale]

i had someone invalidate my opinion because im a dt baby

[wicked delta]

This reminds me of something

Someone got annoyed with me in PF cus I kept apologizing for messing up after every pull

Bro said “stfu just pull man” and then we cleared

😭

I get into my own head so sometimes I need that ngl

[grand mesa]

I say mb and just go again

stop mentally booming urself

[wicked delta]

[grand mesa]

u are ur own worst enemy sometimes

defeat the defeatism

[rain geode]

Wrong Reclear parties are my worst enemy

[kind portal]

Every JP players would be like, every pull have dedicated I'm sorry

[grand mesa]

if you can recognize where and how you fucked up u dont really need to dwell on it further

[rapid whale]

oops it had their name

[rain geode]

you fool now Im gonna harass them /s

[wicked delta]

Usually I understand like

[stray forge]

I think it’s sort of like

[wicked delta]

How I fucked up

[stray forge]

In heat of the moment

[wicked delta]

But my biggest issue is that I underestimate how fast mechanics go off at times

[stray forge]

You want everyone to know you know what you did wrong so they don’t assume ur prog lying or something

Idk

[grand mesa]

i mean

a simple mb is enough

to signal you know you fucked up

[rapid whale]

yeah a simple mb erases the worry of, "i dont know how this mechanic works"

[grand mesa]

understandable

[rain geode]

If I mess something up in a pull enough to cause I wipe Ill usually just say what I did wrong and move on

[wicked delta]

Especially when I play on EU half of the time

[rapid whale]

even if i dont cause a wipe i say mb after starting next cast lmao

[versed kayak]

its also just useful to know what happened sometimes, so others know it probably wasnt them

[wicked delta]

And I can be “late” there if that makes sense

It doesn’t kill me

On NA it absolutely does

And im like oh fuck man

My own greed is literally killing me lmfao

[rapid whale]

what is there to greed you play dnc

angryemoji

[wicked delta]

I played tank before I switched

Also weapons go off faster than I think sometimes

[rapid whale]

just preposition as best you can

ive done lp1 positions as a picto i dont wanna hear it anymore

jk smudge op

[rain geode]

I dunno if static's werent generally better to be in I dont see why anyone would make them with strangers just PF at that point

[rapid whale]

usually its just cuz of friends + consistent hours + no waiting for parties to fill

[wicked delta]

Well loot distribution is a big part id think

And you play with friends

[rapid whale]

eg if you have 3 hours to game for a night, like all 3 are just pull pull pull

[wicked delta]

You can just plan better

With time

[rain geode]

So thingss that make them... better.

[wicked delta]

Like for example if I wanted to prog DSR right now theres a good chance I wait for like 2-3 hours for a party to fill

[rapid whale]

no not always

[clear plume]

Realistically, while most statics do better for hour spent than the same in pf, pf works around your schedule and not 8 peoples

[rapid whale]

there are plenty of statics that have people who would never clear in pf

[clear plume]

Which is a huge difference in time you can spend

[rapid whale]

because they dont do their jobs well

[rain geode]

obviously not always

[rapid whale]

but in their mind, "a clear is a clear"

[stray forge]

if there were 7 copies of me rn

we would have cancelled raid to play nioh

[wicked delta]

You’d grief vamp stomp

[stray forge]

:^)

[rapid whale]

LMAO

tobi firing

[wicked delta]

My fault

[stray forge]

i wanted my uptime vro

[rain geode]

You grief vamp stomp because your bad
I grief vamp stomp because I want to be stepped on
We are not the same

[grand mesa]

just having a soft static with half a group of people you regularly raid with can be enough

[wicked delta]

I dont grief vamp stomp because I am a pranged

[grand mesa]

as long as those people are on roughly the same pace as you

[rapid whale]

ngl good supports usually make a bigger diff than good dps