endgame-lounge

[zealous meteor]

don't make me do it again

[craggy marsh]

give it to me

for safe keeping

[valid solar]

[craggy marsh]

[jolly flume]

I also stay up until like 6am sometimes surely a kid wouldn't do that

[zealous meteor]

nah

(i have two verified discord bots and i had to send my ID again after 3 years because for some fucking reason the verification expires)

[stray forge]

okay but the amount of times you call yourself a popoto cancels that out like eightfold rakshasa

[valid solar]

I'm a college student

[zealous meteor]

why

lalafells can be adults

[jolly flume]

yall will never see me again when that feature rolls out I fear

[zealous meteor]

i mean you can just not send in your id

you won't be able to look at age restricted channels

[jolly flume]

of which this is one

[zealous meteor]

no?

it's not

it got unrestricted when this feature rolled out in the UK

[craggy marsh]

Respect tbh

I got out of college this past fall

[stray forge]

thanks i feel old

omg

ive said that so many times too

discord is going to approx me to be 122 yo

[craggy marsh]

And bc I that I was able to become a full-time vet and next year I might be able to have my own vet business

[valid solar]

You are like

[craggy marsh]

am 26

[valid solar]

10 years younger than I thought you were

[stray forge]

congrats youre still a mango though

well

[craggy marsh]

h-how old did you think I was

[stray forge]

you dont need to be 21 to graduate from college

[valid solar]

30 something

[stray forge]

lol

you can technically actually be 30 something

[craggy marsh]

I wish

[valid solar]

True

[craggy marsh]

I was one of those freaks who went into college immediately after highschool

[valid solar]

I mean basically everyone does that no

[craggy marsh]

Not everyone

I know lots of people who say "i'll go next year"

and you know what they say the next year?

"I'll go next year"

[valid solar]

[jolly flume]

"I'm gonna join the military so I can get my shit paid for"

[random needle]

That's part of why I went to college right after finishing high school yeah

[jolly flume]

source: 4 people in my family's current generation

[zealous meteor]

idk i think i would rather kill myself than join the military

but that's just me

[craggy marsh]

6 years of college but I got my education

[jolly flume]

good for you lol

not you mango

[craggy marsh]

was about to say

"Chiyo HATES ME"

[jolly flume]

I took a gap year from uni but I graduate this year

just in time to suffer

ah well

[zealous meteor]

thank you

[craggy marsh]

graduate and finish it with 8.0

[random needle]

If I tried to join the military, they'd send be back home 23 minutes into basic

[quick verge]

playing gacha prepares you for the job market

[jolly flume]

7.5 ult is literally like the week of my graduation ceremony

[stray forge]

I didnt go to mine

[valid solar]

Skipping graduation to raid is peak

[jolly flume]

I get to save money on all the clothing too

[quick verge]

to spend on gacha

[jolly flume]

I would never

[quick verge]

cluegifungusdeluxe

[jolly flume]

ok maybe for fangyi

but pots in endfield are like fucking useless anyways so I probably won't

[rain geode]

I wonder if I'll still be playing by 7.5

[zealous meteor]

pots?? potions??

[jolly flume]

potentials

[valid solar]

The dupe character buffs

[zealous meteor]

oooh

[valid solar]

Why wouldn't you be

[stray forge]

cluegifungusdeluxe

[jolly flume]

because it's 2026 and our hair textures are still 240p

long live xiv mobile

[quick verge]

cause everyone in this channel gonna die twin

and yes

[valid solar]

Apparently it's doing pretty bad revenue wise

[quick verge]

WE are all dying

[stray forge]

Why did THEY do this to our women?

[jolly flume]

well yeah nobody plays mobile games anymore except like 15 year olds and 15 year olds don't play xiv

[zealous meteor]

speak for yourself. i'm living forever

[rain geode]

Every mmo I play (besides runescape) follows a cycle, and skipping over the middle part and to the end one of the last parts of the cycle is "man the fights in the game are really fun but finding people to play them with who aren't awful is a pain do I even want to boot up today"

[jolly flume]

non-gambling mobile games, that is

we are past the golden age of fruit ninja and angry birds

[valid solar]

I see

[valid solar]

Jetpack joyride

[quick verge]

its been 20 years since angry birds released

[valid solar]

I loved major mayhem too if anyone remembers that one

Now that I think about it nikke basically just copied major mayhem gameplay

[flat vault]

i may be old but

[zealous meteor]

it's been 16 years

[flat vault]

whenever im on a plane

[valid solar]

This guy can afford plane flights, let's eat him

[flat vault]

the only games i play on my phone are either minesweeper or temple run

wtf

[quick verge]

minesweeper is elite plane game

right next to 600mg melatonin

[rain geode]

I have been particularly enjoying xiv so i am trying to break said cycle but well see lmao

[jolly flume]

I play LAN chess on the plane

[valid solar]

I sleep on the plane

[jolly flume]

this guy can afford plane tickets

[stray forge]

I sleep on plane

[jolly flume]

let's eat him

[stray forge]

honestly

[valid solar]

[stray forge]

how tf do you do anything else

other than sleep

[jolly flume]

sleeping is bum activity

you need to farm the free snacks

[quick verge]

cause if u have a long flight you cant sleep the entire time

[zealous meteor]

i didn't sleep on my transatlantic flights

i just listened to music and shit

[jolly flume]

pro tip they usually leave a basket out in the back of the plane by the restrooms

steal them all

[valid solar]

Nah this guy steals the salted peanuts

Hobo activities

[jolly flume]

nah bro they got those biscoff cookies

almost typed coolies and vomited

[valid solar]

Cooly Uchiha my goat

[jolly flume]

the last time I was on a singapore airlines flight to asia I got ramen like 3 times in 13 hours

[quick verge]

oh my god you are big and hungry

[valid solar]

Damn ramen sounds nice

[jolly flume]

they got elite ramen man

[valid solar]

I usually fly emirates so the food is like, rice with chicken and stuff like that

[jolly flume]

shin black

like hello

[valid solar]

Not too bad either but ramen sounds really nice

[quick verge]

did you know if you knock on the cockpit door the pilots will let you in

[stray forge]

please dont say cockpit

[quick verge]

you need to go on a hike

[jolly flume]

wtf else do you call it

[zealous meteor]

??

[jolly flume]

get your mind out the gutter

[rain geode]

That's what it's called

[stray forge]

[zealous meteor]

if you unironically read "cockpit" as lewd you need to go outside

[stray forge]

too easy

[quick verge]

maybe go to pelham bay park

go birdwatching

u on the internet too much

[stray forge]

I would never

[zealous meteor]

have you tried being a productive member of society instead of just posting shit on discord

[stray forge]

I've actively tried to be a counterproductive member of society

[jolly flume]

society is a waste of time

especially where I live

[flat vault]

we live in a society

[stray forge]

I went outside but it was full of tiktokers trying to clout farm

ruining all the things I like

the cycle continues

[rain geode]

Small town?

[stray forge]

Chiyo lives like 15 minutes away from me

[jolly flume]

complete opposite side of the spectrum

[stray forge]

10 minutes

5 minutes

Open the door

[jolly flume]

it's unlocked

[stray forge]

Are you insane

In this city???

[quick verge]

yea

[rain geode]

Huh I much prefer city living to small town living I get to go out and play card games now

[stray forge]

This entire channel is sarcastic mfers unfortunately

Unless?

[quick verge]

the only home invader ive had is a chickadee

[stray forge]

My roommate has had her stalker show up

[quick verge]

wicked

[jolly flume]

there's nobody in my neighborhood besides old people (italian) and old people (jewish)

they could barely make it up the stairs to my room if they tried

[stray forge]

The Italians hate the Asians

[clear plume]

I played Skyrim my last flight

Rog ally my beloved…

(Do not recommend when turbulence)

[zealous meteor]

i didn't buy a steam deck until after my trip to america

[clear plume]

It’s insane that people r out buying steam decks in 2025+ tbqh

[jolly flume]

I always bring my laptop so if I wanna game I just bust it out with the controller I keep in my bag

[clear plume]

Legion go just shits on it specs wise and I’m gonna say it with my chest out Linux is not a positive on a gaming machine

[stray forge]

I think

The average consumer just really doesn’t care

[zealous meteor]

legion go is also more expensive

or at least it was when i bought my deck

[stray forge]

It’s why branding works in the first place

[zealous meteor]

you're also paying for the support

[stray forge]

I’ll pay for your support

I’m waiting to be freed from this mortal coil so I can get back to playing nioh and ignoring life

[daring pine]

coil? lindwurm

[quick verge]

9-5er ICANT

[clear plume]

It’s more expensive in the same way a gaming laptop is more expensive than a Chromebook like yeah, but if you are into what the thing does it’s worth spending that extra for, the steam decks specs just are not good for current gaming.

Especially bc it’s like, a luxury secondary thing

ROG ally specs r also good in theory but honestly they have some manufacturing shit to sort out that makes me unable to recommend it vs the legion, but it is like $100 cheaper or whatever

But it really likes it’s sd card reader breaking

[jolly flume]

I paid $1700 for the convenience of not having to type wsl every time I want to do something in a terminal

true luxury

[zealous meteor]

also like... i already play on linux. if i were to buy a different handheld pc i would put linux on it. so when i bought a steam deck i was also paying for official linux support

i refuse to use windows especially on a portable device

i can just barely tolerate it on my desktop

[low hearth]

Like dead ahh ?

[stray forge]

yeah I've also said it like 100 times in zzz official

but I got banned from zzz official for telling my friend I was going to shoot him with 10 vials of estrogen

anyways hes appealing for me to get back in the server in a twist of fate

[turbid haven]

What else can I do this patch? Im not a hardcore raider, occult crescent is sometimes fun but my FPS is nuked so playing feels horrible

[low hearth]

Hop in savage

Or Cosmic Exploration

[turbid haven]

I just said im not a hardcore raider

[clear plume]

Savage doesn’t need you to be hardcore

[valid solar]

Insane

[turbid haven]

idk what you mean by this, savage content is hardcore

[jolly flume]

it really isn't

[clear plume]

No, it’s really not.

Week 1 yeah absolutely

[turbid haven]

what is hardcore content then...

[valid solar]

Mahjong

[clear plume]

But it’s scaled in a way to be easier over time as people have more gear and guides are released

[valid solar]

Not saying that ironically either that shit is hard

[stray forge]

Savage is considered hardcore to a majority of the playerbase probably

but if u ask in here the only hardcore content is fishing and ultimates that aren't uwu

and mahjong I guess

my grandma mogs all of you in mahjong tho

[clear plume]

Don’t be disrespectful to savage criterion like this, it’s harder than tea

[sinful brook]

theres extremes too

if you don't want "hardcore"

even though savage itself isn't hardcore

it just requires some time to play

raiding itself is generally fairly accessible

[turbid haven]

I don't have the time nor group to prog with and have fun, and I am not hopping in party finder for that.

[sinful brook]

[turbid haven]

So probably just cosmic exploration or making gil

[sinful brook]

idk pick an achievement to grind out then

i did 10k fates for fun

[stray forge]

you psycho

[jolly flume]

content isn't by definition hardcore, if you wanna label it it's by how you approach it commitment wise

nothing in this game requires you to play 30
hours a week unless you're the mentally unwell achievement hunter type

[clear plume]

I’m doing queen of castaways rn

[sinful brook]

it actually probably gets worse

[jolly flume]

there are quite a few casual players who just hop into raid a few hours a week

[sinful brook]

when you learn i did the achievement by

[clear plume]

(I’m the mentally unwell type)

[quick verge]

farm 10k carrots in occult crust

[sinful brook]

doing the same 2 fates repeatedly

[stray forge]

farm 10k carrots

give them to Moriie Sagahl - Famfrit

so she can get bunny blessed

[jolly flume]

you have not earned the blessing of the bunnies

[quick verge]

what if we banned you for begging

[jolly flume]

begone

[wicked delta]

Meeeee

[clear plume]

Queen of castaways is a cooler title plus it makes me Gil that I can spend on my limsa kitten

[quick verge]

oh hell no unc

[clear plume]

To sell the carrots instead

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-review-bnuuy-bunny-gif-3672181350037768525

[craggy marsh]

I know a guy who only does the first savage fight of a tier so he can get a ring and then doesn't bother doing savage after that so he can have a full max ilvl set whenever he buys the rest with tomes

which honestly fair enough

[jade nimbus]

Sup

[jolly flume]

you guys ever crack your back so loud you have to check you didn't fuck anything up

I think my skeleton is going

[quick verge]

no

[rain geode]

no

[craggy marsh]

no

[low hearth]

no

[stray forge]

Dawg is older than me

[jade nimbus]

No

[stray forge]

And I’m 73

[wicked delta]

Grandpa

[craggy marsh]

you ever blow out your back and you have to check if you didn't fuck anything up

[jolly flume]

no

[wicked delta]

No I haven’t done that

[stray forge]

I read that in a wickedly more perverse way than you intended

Maybe I do need to go outside

[jolly flume]

i'm pretty sure that's exactly how mango intended it

[craggy marsh]

Ye

[stray forge]

Oh

[craggy marsh]

that one was meant to be perverse

[quick verge]

how are you like 35 and a pervert

[zealous meteor]

hes 26

[craggy marsh]

I'm 26

[jolly flume]

please take a look in the mirror

[quick verge]

ik

[craggy marsh]

and happily married tyvm

i'm allowed to be perverse

[zealous meteor]

to a catboy?

[quick verge]

not you

[craggy marsh]

an au ra

[rain geode]

alright I have to cap tomes and do my m10s reclear today

[stray forge]

Queer people are aged 10 years younger mentally obv

[craggy marsh]

fem au ra

[wicked delta]

You of all people saying this

[zealous meteor]

thank the twelve

[wicked delta]

Lord send the flood

[quick verge]

im not a pervert

[wicked delta]

Okay man

[stray forge]

I literally

See the fucking mutual servers biscotti

[rain geode]

Hopefully I can get both a M10S reclear and my tomes capped from 0 in 12 hours

[jolly flume]

biscuit got me looking at the chimp general pins

[craggy marsh]

it's funny bc after us knowing eachother in game for about 2 weeks he was like "Just so you know i'm a dude and I hope that doesn't make things awkward"

[jolly flume]

and now i'm listening to brazilian phonk again

[wicked delta]

STOP watching that video man

[zealous meteor]

you met him in game?????

[wicked delta]

😭

[jolly flume]

no

[zealous meteor]

and married him????

[craggy marsh]

ye

ye ye

[zealous meteor]

wild

congrats

[craggy marsh]

we met while rp

[jolly flume]

unafraid to dieeee

[craggy marsh]

back during lockdown

[craggy marsh]

he thought my voice was cute and wanted to call me everyday to listen to me ramble about nonsense

took me about 2 months to realize he liked me

[quick verge]

its so disgusting i hate people in relationships

[zealous meteor]

i wonder if you or tobias are more clueless

[stray forge]

Oh I had someone who liked hearing my voice too but I don’t think it was like that

[wicked delta]

What

Im not clueless

[zealous meteor]

didn't you not realise you were dating until multiple months in

[jolly flume]

I hate my voice anytime after 3pm in the afternoon

[quick verge]

in the power vested in me by yoshida naoki, everyone in this channel is dying single

[craggy marsh]

Look man, after being bullied nonstop growing up bc of my cute feminine and breedable voice you get paranoid and suspect things

[stray forge]

Wtf happens at 3pm

[wicked delta]

I asked my boyfriend out myself

[jolly flume]

I lose my morning voice and it goes up an octave

[zealous meteor]

that is very specific

[stray forge]

Probably my last relationship gave me ptsd

[wicked delta]

That would be incredibly stupid

[craggy marsh]

[wicked delta]

You’re such a fucking hater

[quick verge]

yea

[jolly flume]

I don't mind my voice as much as I used to anymore though

I'm just acutely aware that I sound chinese as fuck sometimes

[craggy marsh]

It's okay Biscuit my husband says he still loves you

even if you are pregnant

[wicked delta]

Oh my god bruh

[stray forge]

Bro is in his Chinese era….PERMANENTLY

[jolly flume]

inshallah you will wake up chinese tomorrow

[wicked delta]

Who the fuck would impregnate that guy

[stray forge]

Happy new years

[jolly flume]

happy new years

I'm fucking off upstate this weekend to be with family

grass will be touched

[stray forge]

Gong he fat choi

[craggy marsh]

bro I just sneezed and now my neck hurts

wtf

[jolly flume]

sun tei gin hong

how do you even transliterate cantonese

[wicked delta]

Can we wait until black history month is over

[jolly flume]

I feel bad for the immigration officers

[wicked delta]

I still need to abuse the privileges this month gives me

[jolly flume]

no you're losing your privileges early

[quick verge]

something something 50% uptime

[wicked delta]

Fuck you I will never be Chinese

[craggy marsh]

always knew Chiyo was racist

I just didn't wanna believe it

[wicked delta]

Yeah hes very racist

[jolly flume]

I was born to two first generation chinese immigrants

[wicked delta]

Ive heard him in vc

[jolly flume]

it would be a miracle if I did not have the seeds of racism implanted in my brain

[craggy marsh]

Chiyo was the 12 year old in CoD lobbies

[jolly flume]

I never had a console to play cod

[quick verge]

this would be a really bad chat to open if u were new to this server

[jolly flume]

🥀

[quick verge]

"yeah this guy racist asf" (is not racist)

[craggy marsh]

I love it when new people get dropped in the trenches

[stray forge]

Let’s be so fr

That’s at least 50% of discord servers

[wicked delta]

He probably would’ve gotten bullied he sounds like a nerd

[craggy marsh]

although there was one time someone new to the server thought I was a female and tried to hit on me

[wicked delta]

Me on the other hand

[jolly flume]

do I sound like a nerd

[wicked delta]

I just give my teammates an inspiration buff

[stray forge]

Look what I found

[craggy marsh]

yeah i've heard your twitch clips

you sound like a cute nerd

[wicked delta]

Drop the cute part

Hes just a nerd

[craggy marsh]

nah chiyo a real one

[jolly flume]

I WAS JOKIIIIIIING

[wicked delta]

Hes only cute with the cat ears on

[stray forge]

Hold up

Let’s drop the selfie

[wicked delta]

Good luck with that

Im not sending shit

[vast jacinth]

you are a nerd chiyo but a good one

[stray forge]

Mods are here scatter

[wicked delta]

See?

My nerd assessment was correct

[jolly flume]

I sent that selfie in a moment of inebriation

it will not be happening again

[vast jacinth]

i dont bite :) usually

[zealous meteor]

i assumed you were a girl for the longest time tbh

[remote gate]

elaborate

[vast jacinth]

doubt

[remote gate]

mango can be a girl if you try hard enough

[wicked delta]

Im wearing my favorite shark onesie again

[stray forge]

Really

[wicked delta]

This shit is bis

[vast jacinth]

peak

[stray forge]

I didn’t get f vibes from mango

[zealous meteor]

do you get f vibes from me

[remote gate]

ye

[stray forge]

Yes

[zealous meteor]

oh

[jolly flume]

when am I getting my selfie

baby shark doo do do do dodo

[stray forge]

Most ppl think I’m a dude I wonder what that means

[quick verge]

it means

u need to go outside

[stray forge]

Im going to start adding cute emotes to all of my messages

[craggy marsh]

I have abused my "Mango sounds like a girl" privileges in certain games to get free shit

works like a charm

[rain geode]

I mean Ive notive most people just assume others are guys online

[vast jacinth]

touch grass? wow

[stray forge]

[quick verge]

its a crisp

[jolly flume]

ppl have thought I was a girl before

[quick verge]

5 degrees

outside

[stray forge]

Cause your name is literally abg

[jolly flume]

I think their gendar was broken as fuck

[remote gate]

is this how you get good gear in warframe

[craggy marsh]

Ye

[zealous meteor]

i assumed i don't have girl vibes tbh

[rain geode]

fair

[jolly flume]

that was way before the abg

[sleek moon]

[remote gate]

you are a female how do you not + you have a very ticklish nose

[rain geode]

Im quite vulgar often so everyone assumes Im a guy

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[zealous meteor]

well my passport doesn't say female yet

i need to poke my local government and see if it's changed yet

[remote gate]

skill issue on the governments part

[stray forge]

I changed my documents before everything went to shit

#blessed

[vast jacinth]

cursing out pf i feel ya XD

[rain geode]

They're so bad and dumb its actually affecting how badly I want to play the game

Like it actually makes me feel like im good (Im not) but like the bar is so low I might as well be insanely good

Admittedly this is kinda always how mmos (besides runescape) end up going for me

[vast jacinth]

im always scared before reclears but i pull through cause i wanna prog m12s

pf is just hella rng

either you get groups that one pull shit

or just wipe after wipe

[remote gate]

im getting bored of xiv ngl

[rain geode]

Im praying to god I win a piece in my M10S reclear because then I can just skip reclears and actually start M11S

[remote gate]

sure a bunch of new content + savage but other games call to me including another playthru of cyberpunk + fallout nv

[rain geode]

but all the parties up rn look like traps so I think im gonna take a shower and come back

[rain geode]

Im definitly not bored but I am frusterated

[craggy marsh]

what no static does to a lala

we tried shiggy

[zealous meteor]

we tried

how dare people have LIVES

[craggy marsh]

ikr

[zealous meteor]

we should make a new static. one with only lalas

[finite plank]

go to ireland

[random needle]

That happened once

[zealous meteor]

yessssss

[winged spindle]

Prog

[random needle]

I still haven't hopped on m12 and I dunno if I'll have time to start before reset

[remote gate]

im still proud of myself for even being able to make it happen in the first place but i dunno if im ever gonna try to host a static myself again. ill probably join existing ones instead

[winged spindle]

I really don't understand the defa/stack part of ID... I really don't T-T

[jolly flume]

what about it do you not understand

[winged spindle]

I want to say everything T-T
Like, I know where my clone is, then telegraph AoE, then meteor and then we resolve and it's here I'm stuck

we pull and see

[clear plume]

Caroplan?

Eu role so I assume?

[winged spindle]

Uptime

EU yes

[clear plume]

Your clone position will tell you if you’re first or second by if you’re NE/SW or not, stacks or defa first is based on what spawns in cardinals (I always look N/S for this) and you always go back to clone position/side instead of staying in portal groups

[jolly flume]

two mechanic clones spawn at a time opposite each other starting from N/S clockwise right, and that's also the order those mechanics will go off

so there's three pieces of information you need to know

1. the order of the stack/defam
2. which side you're going to
3. which mechanic you're doing on that side

1 is easy, just look what mechanic spawned N/S, since those the first clones to spawn they will also resolve first
2 depends on where your clockspot is, refer to whatever raidplan you use for light party splits
3 depends on which clone you are tethered to, remember step 1 here in that it will always be stack-defa-stack-defa or opposite that, so if I am tethered to south then I have defa 1, if I'm southwest then I'm stack 1, etc etc

[clear plume]

If you want macros for chat to press I can dig mine up but it’s defamation call needs to be fixed for uptime bc I did caro week 1-2 only

NORTHWEST
/micon "Salted Earth"
/echo NORTHWEST CLONE, DEFAMATION 2
/echo I NEED TO GRAB A DEFAMATION TETHER
/echo MY STACK SPOT IS AT 4/D, MY DEFAMATION SPOT IS 3/C

This type

But yeah not adjusted for uptime defas for last part

I have some made for all of idyllic

[dull drum]

iirc i think the uptime raidplan has the updated macros so you can copy paste them

and then edit it to your liking if you feel its too shorthand

[winged spindle]

Idk what my team do this

it's also why I'm lost

Ok, I'll try to read everything while raiding

[winged spindle]

When you say "Which side you're going to", what do you mean?

[clear plume]

Red/yellow go to that side

[winged spindle]

So I'll place my defam here

Because actually what they told is to swap with the same color than me to get this pattern above

until now I'm goog

good*

[clear plume]

Yeah, if you’re in the red quadrant for example

You always swap with the other red to get the buff you need

It’ll either be defa North stack NE, or stack North defa NE

And if you’re north you always grab the defa from that corner

[winged spindle]

Yeah

[clear plume]

So you know if you’re north you’re always the first defamation, and you’ll be on the east side of the arena for it and the stacks

NE is always the first stack, and it’ll be on east side for it

[winged spindle]

Until now I'm good

Now to resolve it

oh pull again x(

[winged spindle]

This is what I don't understand I guess

[mossy eagle]

https://raidplan.io/plan/h-GDoi2CFWKazf-Y#40

If you're doing what hector shows, then slide 40 is your friend

Takes a couple minutes to digest but it's all the info you need for the mechanic on one slide

[clear plume]

That’s dn

[dull drum]

thats not how EU does it though they have a dif raidplan

[clear plume]

Not caroplan

[dull drum]

they use caro ye

[mossy eagle]

Oh right hector made two guides

heck

I saw a hector screenshot and went "oh it's the same"

[dull drum]

i never bothered to check which one was better or if its just the same crap but dif execution ngl since im NA jaded

[clear plume]

The clones ALWAYS spawn North and south and go clockwise and resolve in that order

[winged spindle]

Yup I understood this part

I must see if it's card or intercard first too

[clear plume]

So if you’re first defa from North (which is North) you know you’ll be the first defamation every time.

Card and intercard does not matter until later

When the player clones go off

At the end of the entire idyllic mechanic

[winged spindle]

Oh

[clear plume]

You type it in chat and forget about it until after the entire tower phase with the beams resolve

You only deal with the boss clones for first part of it

[mossy eagle]

Yep the player clones spawn cards/intercards but those player clones won't mimic the tether you picked up until after towers resolve

[jolly flume]

explicitly what you are resolving there is only the boss clones

I think it's just confusing bc how all the mechanics interact is like

a mess to understand

[mossy eagle]

Unironically I think Hector has a great explanation of the mecahnic

It's 4 mechanics chopped up and interlaced with one another across two dimensions

[random needle]

I'm debating if I should start studying Idyllic now so I can mentally parse through stuff for a few days before I actually go in, or... actually no, I really need to make sure I understand Act 2 first

[mossy eagle]

I wouldn't touch it until you're through door boss

[dull drum]

bro why are you debating studying idyllic when you havent gotten through p1

😭

[mossy eagle]

as you approach the end of P1, study rep 1 and rep 2 as those will be the only mechanics you'll see during your first P2 lockout

don't be the people that reach P2 and go "lmaooo haven't looked at this yet"

[dull drum]

tbf its just rep 1 and 2 wipes on first instance in it (with luck playing out for rep 1 bc 90% of people cant read it until you spell it out for them)

[dull drum]

when did this happen 😭

[worn bluff]

like a week ago

it was p2 fresh party with strats listed

[winged spindle]

Thanks everyone for the help !

[mossy eagle]

Had a prange join yesterday, we get through door boss in 2 pulls. Then we get to P2 and she goes "Oh it's a banana party. Sorry I don't know that strat I just clicked on the PF super quick" and then dipped

[winged spindle]

I will try and see

[worn bluff]

they were also the one who griefed us for an hour in p1 and we had to drag their corpse to p2

[dull drum]

blind week 6 p2 just put the fries in the bag bro

[mossy eagle]

I keep seeing these two healers trying to blind prog M12S on Aether

bro it is week one million no one is joining

they just sit there in PF not filling

[worn bluff]

raidwide for babies

[dull drum]

no one wants to blind this late in the tier 😭

[worn bluff]

such a tiny raidwide how bad could the mechanic be

[dull drum]

atp its just

clear and get it over with

first 2-3 weeks sure

[mossy eagle]

I'll give my usual blind prog speel. There's a chunk of people that want to blind prog that do not have the mechanical consistency or mechanical reading skills necessary to blind prog at a reasonable rate

A subset of those that think "wow studying a guide is hard. I'll just blind prog and that way I don't have to study." not realizing that they are the exact demographic that should not be blind progging

[trim frost]

yeah

[worn bluff]

i think they just want to mess around casually and not have to study for a fight, which is fine if all 8 people are down for it

but usually doesn't get very far

[trim frost]

if you aren't even capable of studying a guide you are the last person who should be blind progging

[worn bluff]

most times in PF i just see those parties last 15 mins and then disband bc everyone wants to look at the guide now

[mossy eagle]

Yeah that's the other issue. Very different definitions and levels of seriousness when it comes to blind prog

[dull drum]

lowkey flame but i think anyone who isnt at that level blind progging

[mossy eagle]

To be clear, I think even a casual static is capable of blind progging the tier. They just have to be comfortable clearing on week 30

[dull drum]

its just a waste of time

[random needle]

Yeah I plan to avoid that

[mossy eagle]

I'll caveat that extremes are significantly easier to blind prog and most PFs I join on patch release can usually get through half of an extreme blind

[random needle]

Right now I need to just... focus on making sure I understand Act 2, and at least have the gist of the rest of p1 after that

[mossy eagle]

But imagine trying to blind prog rep 2 when your party doesn't even have the consistency to get through rep 1.

[dull drum]

rep 1 lowkey the hardest mech in p2 aside from idyllic thoughts on my take

[worn bluff]

it's pretty chill for melee

[mossy eagle]

The only gotcha with Act 2 is alpha 1 or 2 car crashing with alpha 3 or 4 if their tower isn't by their exit point

[worn bluff]

idk what the ranged are doing

[mossy eagle]

Yeah it's the easiest mechanic for melee besides candy

which is fucking free

[jolly flume]

the thing with casuals blind progging

is idk if they're capable of intuiting how a resolve is supposed to work through literally just lack of game knowledge

depends on the level of casual we're talking abt I guess

because I'm imagining 8 msq andies in 12

[dull drum]

can we get a shoutout to that m11 drk who told me they didnt have invuln up for first tower after invulning first wof

[jolly flume]

didn't know living dead had a 6:30 cooldown

must've gotten nerfed this patch

[mossy eagle]

Casual static in this instance is a step above MSQ andies

[dull drum]

debatable

depends on the level of casual (very broad term)

[mossy eagle]

Casual hours, enough dedication to create/learn strats and how things work

Not a ton of experience

Don't exactly parse like a monster

[stray forge]

I parse like a monster

(the type you avoid)

[mossy eagle]

80% uptime sge from last night still living rent free in my head

the scariest part? They didn't even parse a 0

There's SGEs with worse damage out there

[trim frost]

i got that monster (parse) in me

[jolly flume]

you have to work pretty hard for a 0

[stray forge]

me with 4% more uptime than Bard Sucks and yet 5k less rdps

[zealous meteor]

who is bard sucks anyway

its someone from here

who

[stray forge]

Tbh I thought bard sucks was wonderbird

[jolly flume]

I was playing on his acc

[stray forge]

reported

[jolly flume]

my main doesn't have gear outside of tank healer

[zealous meteor]

wait were you actually

[worn bluff]

do the firefall splash cones in rep 2 kill you if you're too close to boss?

[zealous meteor]

waow i played with the famous chiyo shiomi

[jolly flume]

for legal purposes no

[jolly flume]

the boss jump itself is an aoe

and it gets repeated by the clone of the north guy

[worn bluff]

ohh i see

[winged spindle]

DPS is difficult for the P2, during rep 2, placing my 2min correctly is tough

[worn bluff]

i was late one time and died but that makes sense

[stray forge]

This time I’m really going to do it

[zealous meteor]

do i need to post my arkveld log

[jolly flume]

you worked for it

[mossy eagle]

Will the cleaves always target the same players the original cleaves hit? (Assuming no one is ded)

I'll be honest I have zero idea how that baiting works

[worn bluff]

the tether i needed was the absolute last one in the prio and i got turned around

[stray forge]

I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a zero tho

Even on wipes

[zealous meteor]

im so fucking cool

the elusive 0

[stray forge]

Monk-a-s

[clear plume]

For legal reasons I don’t green on mch

[worn bluff]

i want to say yes because in DN/clone zone the reenactment cones go off same time as nether

[wicked delta]

Okay in his defense he got fucking murdered that pull

[low hearth]

[worn bluff]

so it couldn't be a proximity bait again

[stray forge]

I’m surprised we recovered

I thought we were fucked

[jolly flume]

I'm pretty sure it's proximity

[zealous meteor]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/a:tMKh7PDr94wvn3fg?fight=105 i can't believe we killed in that pull
and then i never went back so now i'm stuck with a 0 forever :3

[jolly flume]

because the second time it baits on proximity to the clone, not the boss

netherworld is relative to the boss

[verbal whale]

whats prime aether raid time 8est onward?

[jolly flume]

and those two are offset

the clone is on the outer marker ish

boss is between the two markers if you're using the dn rep1 markers

[stray forge]

It’s na

Just pick a time when both est and pst would be online

[worn bluff]

ohh yeah you're right

it's further north

[zealous meteor]

i've had no issues getting parties after like 5pm EST

[jolly flume]

my fault I saw a homing missile shaped like a lalafell coming towards me so I chose to kill you rather than the healer

[zealous meteor]

/11pm GMT

[jolly flume]

it will happen again

[stray forge]

What

[zealous meteor]

[stray forge]

I died to the stack

[mossy eagle]

Gotcha, was curious since the stack people in banana 2 (defams, nothing, boss) are running right behind where the clone lands, but they never seem to get cleaved

unless someone is dead

[stray forge]

[rapid whale]

@zealous meteor excited to reclear?

[jolly flume]

I'm pretty sure you died to our aoes clipping each other or maybe you just got away scot free idk

I sure didn't though

[zealous meteor]

i'm scared

[stray forge]

Idr

But it’s whatever cause I blamed you for my death anyway

[wicked delta]

Bad habit incoming

[normal summit]

That’s not correct

[zealous meteor]

"huh i don't remember doing M9S twice"

[wicked delta]

I wanna skip M9 reclear

[stray forge]

Me too

[normal summit]

The second set of cleaves are baited at the same players that took the first set

[low hearth]

clear m11?

[stray forge]

Erm

[jolly flume]

oh well there you go

[rapid whale]

Is it time to clear them

[mossy eagle]

Yeah that makes sense given how close the stacks are taken in BC rep 2

[normal summit]

It’s impossible to accidentally bait a cleave unless someone is dead

[jolly flume]

I remember we had issues with something regarding proxy to the clone there but it might have been the jump aoe not the proteans

and we didn't have much information to work with

[mossy eagle]

yeah if the stack people run straight through they'll get bopped

[normal summit]

If you do standard DN strat, you can easily get clipped by the replay of the jump aoe on the clone, especially if near baiters are too far in.

Or if in BC stack players run straight through the clone.

[rapid whale]

Wait what makes dn particularly susceptible to this, is it due to the order of the clones during set up?

[normal summit]

Netherwrath near is at the same time as the boss jump replay

[winged spindle]

Oh improvement !!!

[rapid whale]

I see

[normal summit]

In BC, they go off at completely different times

[rapid whale]

Let's goo congrats on Green

[winged spindle]

But PLEASE

GAME CRIT MORE

😢

[mossy eagle]

Another point for banana let's fucking go

eat your heart out early PF

[jolly flume]

it's a pretty easy fix

[rapid whale]

Nuh uh

[jolly flume]

you just have to not do the thing where defamations always sit on the hitbox and n/s do the baiting

[winged spindle]

I didn't crit my phantom and my RoF during the opener 😢

[jolly flume]

that was suggested early on

because if you have to bait near with a defam on the hitbox 1) it's easy as hell to double bait 2) you eat that aoe to the face

[carmine harbor]

Have bait on hitbox and non bait do opposite

[rapid whale]

I promise that doesn't cause grays dw about it

[carmine harbor]

Simple enough

[winged spindle]

Oh I know, but maybe I could have small blue :3

[rapid whale]

what color do you think this run got

granted i have gear so this isn't entirely a fair comparison

[winged spindle]

Idk

[rapid whale]

it's a 90

[winged spindle]

Hum

[rapid whale]

point being is that proper play is the bulk of the color

gear is also huge ofc

[winged spindle]

I can’t find my mistake 😔

I’m ilvl784

I’ll see tomorrow

[rapid whale]

784 struggling to green is absolutely not a gear issue imho

[winged spindle]

Hum

[rapid whale]

you have more gear than my alt

[winged spindle]

https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/atJW67jQgzMc4hCf/10/181

[rapid whale]

idk enough about monk but green in 784 just seems too low

[stray forge]

im still 780

[worn bluff]

i wouldn't worry too much about individual parses and whether they could have been 5-10 more etc. you'll eventually see better numbers as you go

[stray forge]

god help me

[rapid whale]

go clear

[winged spindle]

I don’t understand because… I don’t change my rotation or anything since 1st tier

And 1st tier I got some 92 and 80

It’s even more frustrating

[rapid whale]

yea if its at the point xivanalysis says nothing then its more per fight opti

could also be killtime stuff

[winged spindle]

Oh

Killtime

I used a double lunar

[stray forge]

i still need to do my m12n clear this week

hope I dont forget before weekly

:^)

[winged spindle]

So at the end… I didn’t cast RoF or Phantom

I was only in GCD

[rapid whale]

yea that does it

iirc ideal kt for lindwurm 1 is 630

[winged spindle]

But this couldn’t create such a huge gap no??

[rapid whale]

it can

[worn bluff]

yeah killtime is rough the longer it is after 6:30

unless you're a 1 min job that does early buff

[rapid whale]

i do agree green seems a lil low but when you combine that

[worn bluff]

then you might get some dps back if you hit final enrage cast

[low hearth]

and m11s

[rapid whale]

still a loss tho since its further n further from 2nd pot

[winged spindle]

Hum
I see

Oh also, I LB, does it change something?

[worn bluff]

it's also more competitive bc you have people in bis, and also it's very easy to get melee uptime in phase 1 (easiest in the tier)

so you're not going to gap people getting low uptime

[stray forge]

I forgot the fight already

[rapid whale]

usually xivanalysis "nothing wrong" is enough to purple, so i see where your frustration comes from

[worn bluff]

bc there aren't many

[rapid whale]

yes lb'ing is a personal parse loss for sure

[low hearth]

probably uptime

[rapid whale]

naw their xivanalysis looks good

[winged spindle]

😔

[worn bluff]

like in other tiers you might have people that drop 10+ GCDs bc of everything going on. in 12-1 that's not going to happen

you're competing against almost everyone having 99% uptime

[low hearth]

this a green?

[rapid whale]

true

[low hearth]

wtf

[winged spindle]

Yes

[rapid whale]

bro let me show u somethin

[worn bluff]

yeah i've seen greens in 12-1 with pretty clean xiva

[clear plume]

its a pretty bad kt

[worn bluff]

kt is a bigger factor for that fight

[low hearth]

oh

[rapid whale]

https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/a:Xykp8DFtTPLnvdKJ/19/4 its not perfect but guess the parse

like obv the xivanal could be better

but just guess

[low hearth]

thats like a blue

[rapid whale]

it was a 6

[clear plume]

im guessing grey bc ur washed

[rapid whale]

was on my alt

[stray forge]

jokes on you I clicked the link to fflogs to laugh at you

[rapid whale]

so like literal bottom of the barrel gear

[winged spindle]

I will go sleep
Kinda sad about it but heh, life still goes on

Thanks for your help everyone

And good night !

[rapid whale]

nono you must write essays to square enix about how unjustified it is and they should buff your job /s

[winged spindle]

True

[clear plume]

https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/NjPcvd2bz91aFWnt/32/3

guess this percentile

[rapid whale]

oo good kt

oh but a death

imma say hmm

85

[clear plume]

97 lmao

bard players suck

[rapid whale]

LMAO

[winged spindle]

See? SEE ??

[rapid whale]

ig kt matters that much

[clear plume]

when i say the "bard is hard to play perfectly" crowd dont know how little playing perfect bard is i mean it

[winged spindle]

Ah fck it
How the f am I suppose to interest static for the next Ultimate

[somber forge]

What’s wrong with bard players?

[clear plume]

(i also died like 10s before boss died)

[rapid whale]

oic

[winged spindle]

I’ll have to do log run
I just hope strat we’re doing are the same in pf

[clear plume]

mid burst tho but yeah it was an easy pb to beat

but historical gold

[rapid whale]

i stay away from it like how i stay away from ninja

[clear plume]

that was a gold parse with a death.

[stray forge]

How do I find a static for 7.5 if I’m bottom 50 percentile

[rapid whale]

intellectually i know its just a matter of putting in time, emotionally im like heurguhh job hardd

[stray forge]

[rapid whale]

you pf your first on content ulti like everyone else

[clear plume]

ninja is a fun class tho

[stray forge]

I would literally rather quit the game thanks

[rapid whale]

you can stick with your current static ig

[stray forge]

They’re casual

And don’t do ults

[clear plume]

just do what the normal path to hc is nowadays

[stray forge]

Gigacooked

[clear plume]

do criterion and nepo ur way in

[mossy eagle]

Find a casual ult static that doesn't care about barse

[stray forge]

Purse party

[winged spindle]

I did this
UCoB and UWU
Then I got a static but finished FRU in PF on patch

[clear plume]

100 criterion clears and youll meet some raid leader with a spot

[stray forge]

Bring ur slayish purses

[rapid whale]

when do u plan to clear the ultimate

if its like, within 4 weeks yeah ur cooked

[stray forge]

Depending on how horrid my experience is

[worn bluff]

am i the only who dislikes the word barse

[stray forge]

On content or quit the game

[jolly flume]

50% of players are in the bottom 50th percentile so even if you aim for a group where everyone is strictly worse than you that's still half the community you can play with

shrug

[rapid whale]

ultimate is gonna test you harder than savage imma just say that now

[jolly flume]

no

it's cringe

[mossy eagle]

Ultimate is for people that like CBT

[rapid whale]

haha but square enix won't know what i mean if i say barse in game haha

🅱️arse

[mossy eagle]

Ope someone sneezed time to rewind 15 minutes

[stray forge]

I don’t have the B in that acronym they were removed during the war

[worn bluff]

"i got 99 problems but a barse aint one"

[jolly flume]

welcome back mega jutsu

pf just isn't the same without you

also it was barp

[worn bluff]

i saw someone else use that PF desc

[jolly flume]

even more cringe

[worn bluff]

last week

[rapid whale]

were they a giga parse hominid

[stray forge]

Opti

[clear plume]

I refused to play with mega jutsu

Mf was a pot griefer

1/7 potting on pld to get taxed less

[rapid whale]

as in pots outside of buff windows?

o

lol

[stray forge]

What

[jolly flume]

lapin gino if lapin gino sucked

[clear plume]

Look at Han gaidenko

My goat

From same tier

[mossy eagle]

If you clear a fight 100 times, your account should be locked and mental health services sent to your address

[winged spindle]

How is this humanly possible
In pf? How many times did he wipe? And how he kept his sanity

Well

[stray forge]

Wait 762

[worn bluff]

i kind of grief other people's rdps by buffing -4 in 12-1, but it's for more overall damage in case we have deaths and get to enrage cast

[winged spindle]

When you look at Medicine Melancholy UWU kills…

[worn bluff]

it's not for parse reasons

[stray forge]

I griefed everyone on that m9s clad

Clear tbh

[worn bluff]

also wol told me to and i just follow instructions like a sheep

[stray forge]

I saved my arcane circle for 30s so I could cleave vamp/nail/flail with communio

And still got gray

[wicked delta]

Oh my god bruh

[stray forge]

🙂

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-noa-wave-noa-wave-blue-archive-noa-gif-7940241936008341576

[zealous meteor]

i don't feel like thinking. what is the most braindead job i can play in roulette

[winged spindle]

[stray forge]

BLM

[wicked delta]

Summoner

[mossy eagle]

Summoner

[random needle]

You held your burst without telling the party?

[rain geode]

Its a roulette all of them

[random needle]

And yeah SMN is brain off

[worn bluff]

idk if that's worth the loss of misaligning your buff to everyone else

[stray forge]

BLM is literally like 4 buttons if you get an early dungie

[stray forge]

True

[worn bluff]

arcane circle is only 3% but that's still meaningful

to misalign completely

[stray forge]

It’s just so awkward

[zealous meteor]

in level cap roulette

[quick verge]

l'odyssee d'alexander

[random needle]

VPR is also brain off

[stray forge]

I haven’t done the math

I should probably just align

Also

Depends on your group

Ig

[winged spindle]

And MNK??

[stray forge]

It’s even worse in m10s

AC comes up right as party splits for snaking

So no cleaves or buffing everyone

[wicked delta]

Bro wants to be included

[stray forge]

Gigacooked

[wicked delta]

😭

[quick verge]

very nice now lets see adps

[winged spindle]

Yes

😔

[worn bluff]

you should be able to catch everyone if you stand between the bosses before going to your spot

[wicked delta]

Thats what I do on dnc

Like

[random needle]

Yeah, there should be like a good 5 seconds of being able to do that

[wicked delta]

Reaper has a dash anyway

You’ll be fine

Mechanic takes a while to go off

[random needle]

And if you're on red, you just walk back to your spot, and if you're on blue, warp over to whatever spot he's on

[stray forge]

I could but I am supposed to AC mid enshroud to get two communios in under the buff

[random needle]

How does that change anything we said...?

[stray forge]

Idk I’ll see if I can catch the whole raid with it next week

[stray forge]

My enshroud isn’t up yet

[worn bluff]

i think buffs come out just as snaking cast goes off?

[stray forge]

But that’s prob because I’m not saving my gauge for split

[wicked delta]

Buffs do come up as the snaking cast goes off

So like

[worn bluff]

if you don't have gauge to start double enshroud for some reason, you send single shroud and still AC on cooldown

[stray forge]

Now that I think about it

[worn bluff]

you can't delay your buff bc of your gauge

[wicked delta]

You should be saving your gauge tf

😭?

[stray forge]

Listen I don’t remember why my gauge is down

[worn bluff]

delaying AC until you can do a proper double enshroud would be a big loss

[wicked delta]

Reaper players

[worn bluff]

just hit the AC

[wicked delta]

[stray forge]

That fight scrambles my brain

[jolly flume]

you play your rotation around your buff not the other way around

[wicked delta]

Yeah lol

[jolly flume]

buffs in general

[random needle]

You control the buttons you press

[jolly flume]

unless you are an adps job in which case fuck you

[worn bluff]

double enshroud is only a gain if you're able to start it on time

[zealous meteor]

this is why i'm gonna blacklist reapers from my pfs

[wicked delta]

You have more than enough time

To build gauge

[stray forge]

When does snaking start

Like timestamp

[wicked delta]

The downtime in this fight wont fuck your gaugebuilding that hard

[random needle]

4:05 is when the cast finishes

So basically exactly when buffs start going out

[stray forge]

Okay

That’s prob why

[random needle]

And then they still stand there for like 5 more seconds before they move to their alley-oop spots

[worn bluff]

i'm guessing you have to deadzone before snaking bc there's so much downtime

[stray forge]

Rpr opener is 2nd gcd ac on balance

So even a small amount of off timing for 2nd ac fucks up my rotation for that

Which is probably what happens

Idk I’ll record it this week

I just know I’m significantly more ass on this fight than other fights

[worn bluff]

idk how it lines up w gauge

and if you have to skip an odd enshroud

to have gauge for snaking 2s

[stray forge]

I’ll keep it in mind this week

[rapid whale]

o

you ahvent been dbl enshrouding under buffs?

[stray forge]

I have been

[rapid whale]

o oka

[worn bluff]

they weren't getting enough gauge to start double enshroud on time so they were delaying buff until enough gauge

but you should send AC on cooldown no matter what

unless specifically holding like in bubble

[stray forge]

I feel like I got the idea from looking at some purple parsing reapers logs but it could have easily been that their entire party delayed that 2m

[wicked delta]

Yea

[stray forge]

Lol

That’s what i get for not checking the whole picture

[rapid whale]

o do you mean the 0 6 1030 parties

[wicked delta]

?

This is about M10S

Not talking about pot windows

[rapid whale]

mb im senile

[wicked delta]

Just buffs

[stray forge]

Are there any fights designed in a way that it would genuinely be better to move a 2m in the middle of the fight to like 30s later for the whole party

Assuming your kt allows the max number of group buffs despite moving the 2m

[random needle]

... Is that not m10? I guess it's not quite 30s, but you do hold burst until after bubble dies

[rapid whale]

day 1 m9s did the same, as does m11s if your party does 0 6 1030 pots

you would push the 8min 2min all the way to 9 to get 3 pots out

m12s you could make the argument to delay final 2min until tanks r done w/ tb

[stray forge]

That’s true I forgot about that bc my static sometimes still needs to pop buffs ☠️

[rapid whale]

oh hell no

[stray forge]

We play in different worlds bapple

[rapid whale]

okay ejae