#endgame-lounge

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echo ibex
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Bro is so peak

jolly flume
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8p2 > 4p2 though

robust shoal
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Egads! (time to pot)

clear plume
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Cats wasn’t getting 8:30 kts damn

mossy eagle
jolly flume
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wtf

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oh I mean the music

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not the fight

mossy eagle
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Oh

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Yeah I agree there

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But 4p1 > 8p1 for ost

worn bluff
jolly flume
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busta rhymes goes to the m4s phase transition

alpine plover
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how did i even drop these

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wtf did i do

robust shoal
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I actually potted the 5min later on because getting 0/6/12 was rare and 0/5/10 is basically the same as 0/6/11

worn bluff
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my potted 5 min on RPR was stronger than 6 min in that fight sometimes bcaGuiltySweat

jolly flume
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5 was a nice pot on mch

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100/100 and 3 tools

alpine plover
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cats

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can you logcheck me

worn bluff
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smuggle perfectio and 2 enshrouds

robust shoal
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I potted 0/5/10 in my pld r1 and it went to 12:40 anyway Sadge

rapid whale
alpine plover
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maybe?

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idk

robust shoal
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tbh if you want a real expert on vpr I'd ask in the balance, I only cosplayed as a good vpr in m4s

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this seems too early tho

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should ire then wait a couple gcds and send

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also that ire is drifted

alpine plover
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hm

rapid whale
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i thought you wanted to start almost immediately after the ire because otherwise u dont fit 2 oroboros under buff

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like if oyur reawaken is hit as the buffs go out, you lose 2nd oro

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or is there like a sweet spot

alpine plover
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i know about it cuz i mastered the 9 gcd rdm

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so this made sense

robust shoal
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the first ire is really early in the opener

alpine plover
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idk what i did there iguess i just couldnt hold it any longer

stray forge
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I have found inner peace

robust shoal
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if you don't drift it then you miss buffs going right into reawaken

stray forge
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Dying to the same boss over and over again in nioh because I lost all of my gaming skills

jolly flume
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if it makes you feel any better the tutorial boss in sekiro walled me for an hour

stray forge
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God bless having no one to blame but yourself 🙏 pray Prayge

robust shoal
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this is a burst from my best m4s

rapid whale
robust shoal
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2 gcds after ire and the reawaken is the first thing that catches all buffs

rapid whale
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icic

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so you were literal when you said a couple

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i should have known better

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ive seen some cursed shit like ppl hit ire -> full slow combo -> then start the double reawaken and its like

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you missed like half the second reawaken, esp the oroboros brudda

robust shoal
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yeah that's late

alpine plover
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you ire first gcd then?

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well if ire and double ouroboros is kind of the mastery part of viper but everything else is alright i guess it's not too bad

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but if you do that then your entire burst is basically in reawaken no?

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which means you send every uncoiled fury out of buffs?

robust shoal
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yeah

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your burst ideally is just double reawaken

alpine plover
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that kinda

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simplifies things

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a LOT

robust shoal
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this was only one gcd between ire and reawaken

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actually forgor if it's ire gcd burst or ire gcd gcd burst

alpine plover
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lovely

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🅱️iper arc soon

robust shoal
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my other bursts are silly bc I griefed 6min buffs for a 5min pot

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and triple reawakened at 10min

alpine plover
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i swear reawaken is quite the drug

robust shoal
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so I don't have the exact timings to compare

alpine plover
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all good . i got the info that i needed

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thanks!

robust shoal
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and yeah advice I got from balans when I was going for 99 was sending coils more aggressively

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if you get comfy with a fight you eventually learn how many you need for movement and then whatever extras you want to send just for gcd alignment

hot rose
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It highkey irks and triggers me when people don’t properly know how to put up a pf 😡

worn bluff
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there's a decent chance they're bad at other things too

hot rose
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“Party recruitment has ended-“ and there’s 4 ranged dps

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And the pf lead has the audacity to act shocked

limpid edge
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cant complain about 4 phys if you dont lock jobs

hot rose
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And ppl will argue back that you should look at the pf first

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Uhmm no bc some ppl use search criteria filters on pf

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It will only show pf’s for me that show a spot for GNB lol

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Thank you for coming to my ted talk 🗣️

fierce matrix
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we do this all the time

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its ez

worn bluff
rapid whale
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The "no salt" "be confident" "don't suck" in the descriptions are huge red flags for me too

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Like those are all implied IMHO

stray forge
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bro just say you are scared of watashia

hot rose
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I understand the no salt tho

jolly flume
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the more positive the pf desc sounds the less I trust them

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also the longer it is the less I trust them

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the ideal pf description is like 2 words long

hot rose
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Some ppl comment and btch about every single wipe lol

worn bluff
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i saw a PF the other day that said "come ready to work." which i get it, everyone should lock in for prog. but also just reading that made me want to log off and do something else lol

stray forge
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I got kicked after two wipes the other day

zealous meteor
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glup shitto prog | hector nation | good vibes only =^w^=

rapid whale
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The classic dsr party just d as the description into a one pull totem

worn bluff
jolly flume
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watashia's sounds more like hes 14 years old

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ngl

stray forge
hot rose
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I’m in a pf rn for m12s and the original desc said “tower prog”

wicked delta
hot rose
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2 ppl left bc they thought it was act 2 prog….

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What is “tower prog” 🤣

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Didn’t even say phase 2

stray forge
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ecliptic stampede

hot rose
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I told them to change it and they still didnt put idyllic

worn bluff
hot rose
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Must be a derogatory word for them idk

zealous meteor
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ydillick is hard to spell okay

worn bluff
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autoattack #70 prog

stray forge
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did no one join my egirl begging pf because I didn't lock as dnc

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tobi teach me how to lure unsuspecting victims

zealous meteor
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idea: phys ranged slot that's BRD/MCH/DNC/SMN

stray forge
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One of these days I want someone to join without job stone

hot rose
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Ok but why is banana codex better for rep 2 🤔

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Ive never done it

jolly flume
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you move slightly less

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it's really not a big deal

worn bluff
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more static positioning for nether baits

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but that doesn't have to do with how the rest of the mechanic is resolved

rapid whale
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and creates a scenario where there is no world they have a chance to lose a gcd

stray forge
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I’m tired of gcds mom

worn bluff
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i do miss playing games without GCDs

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i should get nioh 3

rapid whale
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animation locks r effectively gcd tho smh

stray forge
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Come thru

stray forge
wicked delta
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HEEEEELP

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he then got murdered by a tankbuster

rapid whale
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lmfao

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how do you end up in a situation where the dnc of all ppl has the aggro

low hearth
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😭

random needle
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Or the tanks both died and the melees are very bad at the game

wicked delta
random needle
wicked delta
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i got this tho fr fr

valid solar
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how am I supposed to sabotage this guys parties if he's on pranged

valid solar
wicked delta
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i got brutally murdered many times

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sad!

echo ibex
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I only wanted to record a pov for a friend

rapid whale
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m10s is fun

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optimizing it makes my brain wrinkle the way my skin does

wicked delta
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i like doing big cleave dmg

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its fun

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hopium

clear plume
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That’s cute

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If I wasn’t busy I’d help them

low hearth
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u dont even need savage experience for that fight bruh

valid solar
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franky I think you should have uwu experience before being allowed into current savage Clueless

low hearth
jolly flume
clear plume
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My criterion group was asking if they need to cancel their normal raid in case it takes over 12h it was funny

low hearth
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lol i joined

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deltascape 1.0 is ez

rapid whale
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surel the new criterion is actually criterion savage just retitled

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suirely

clear plume
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It has a savage level to it but

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785 sync on normal mode is lmao for my hopes for it

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If it’s 785 sync savage it’s so over

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But it was like 4h blind for alo crit so that’s why 12h is lmao

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Even savage should die in 12

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With no issues

low hearth
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o1s is impossible content

jolly flume
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criterion can't come out soon enough

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🥀

stray forge
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OwO

trim frost
rapid whale
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hell yeah cure 1

trim frost
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i thought it was a mistake at first but they used it like seven times during that dungeon

rapid whale
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freecure my beloved

slender lichen
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on meteor rain MT shouldnt be standing on the W side right Thonk

wicked delta
low hearth
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whats wrong with white mage players bro

jolly flume
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nothing

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they're all intelligent and competent

wicked delta
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I look up

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I see

jolly flume
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and 99 other jokes to tell your friends

wicked delta
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White mage on the wrong side of arena split

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I shed a tear

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I just realized I got triple ranged in this party now

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Two casters and a phys

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Are we cooked

iron jewel
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I mean, as long as one of you can fake melee, you'll be fine probably.

wicked delta
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Im just gonna make the red mage do it

jolly flume
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bum ass dancers.

worn bluff
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people were telling the WHM they didn't go in to get the prey for arena split. they said "yes i did" and ragequit the party

stray forge
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same

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maybe they got removed

wicked delta
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A girl came up to me and asked if I could pentameld her gear

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And I sure damn did

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Always do what pretty girls ask for

stray forge
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just say biscuit

wicked delta
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Biscuit is neither pretty or a woman

valid solar
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who wants to guess what their parse on this fight is

stray forge
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im so self conscious of my dps

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I usually say oh maybe you wanna dance the other dps

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no one ever listens to me

wicked delta
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I just give dp to whoever has the best gear

valid solar
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thats good, its the first step on improving

wicked delta
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If it all looks fine

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I go with prio

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Lol

low hearth
stray forge
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just use your damn anti gravity gun

clear plume
valid solar
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now thats a deltascape deleter if ive ever seen one

clear plume
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(I have weapon and they do not)

worn bluff
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"it's ok i'd rather kill the boss"

slender lichen
low hearth
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this dude might not be cut out for uwu dawg

sinful brook
valid solar
clear plume
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Ok but consider he wasn’t dped in that run

valid solar
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true...

clear plume
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Bro locks in under the weight of responsibility like a true alpha

worn bluff
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high single digits tho!

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big boom

sinful brook
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That was higher than I thought

low hearth
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o2s lowkey fun asf

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this mustve went crazy back in 2017

clear plume
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It was kind of boring bc it was really hard to wipe in

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Fine first prog but like reclears it was such an easy fight bc even somebody fucking up is like ok we took damage we didn’t need to, not even pop mit to survive

wicked delta
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0,01 enrage uuuuugg

clear plume
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Time to drop the “god if only you were on X job” in party chat

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Sow doubt

stray forge
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Sow…

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Soulsow….

jolly flume
low hearth
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enraging m10s speedlaugh2

wicked delta
rapid whale
rapid whale
stray forge
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haven't logged in today

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peace has returned to me

low hearth
rapid whale
undone tide
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the actual way to not want to uninstall because of pf is to concentrate your time pfing into the first 3 weeks

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after that its no mans land

rapid whale
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oh my god

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im sure they win tonight on god

low hearth
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dang bro couldve finished top by now Classic

rapid whale
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or 1/4th of the way thru dsr

low hearth
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bro this stratergy board shit is the most unfunny stuff ever

rapid whale
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its 67 level comedy for xiv

mossy eagle
worn bluff
low hearth
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It was cool the first couple of weeks now mfs dragging it on

stray forge
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They only pulled 36 more times

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I think they also gave up

rapid whale
low hearth
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I can’t imagine progging a savage fight for 70 hours

rapid whale
stray forge
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I gave up

low hearth
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M10s had me about to call it quits after 20 hours CAUGHT

rapid whale
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they went in as recently as yest

stray forge
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Yeah but

stray forge
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How do you go from 1054 pulls in like 2 weeks

low hearth
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Had to retire the rest of week 1 after clearing that 😭

stray forge
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To 36 pulls in a week

rapid whale
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bro it's week 5

stray forge
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Listen here you shark mfer

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You get the point

low hearth
mossy eagle
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They have to be doing this as a meme

stray forge
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I hate one piece

mossy eagle
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Ain't no way they did 1000 serious pulls

rapid whale
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idk

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but the first time i posted them they were at like 900

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now its almost 1.1k

mossy eagle
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At some point you have to call in the C41 squad

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Idk network or something

stray forge
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.

worn bluff
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the wild thing is after 1100 pulls their best is 13%

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like they never had a clean pull ever

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or even a 1-2 death pull

rapid whale
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yea i think 13% is like, died to two/four way fireball

stray forge
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Listen

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After 400 pulls my best is 8%

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It just be like that

worn bluff
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that’s like 1/3 of their pulls tho

rapid whale
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yea slacker

stray forge
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Can’t hear you over the sound of killing yokai

low hearth
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You can’t just give up after 400 pulls bruh

worn bluff
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i should quit this tier and play nioh

low hearth
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Aren’t you at like rep 2

worn bluff
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yeah but i never get to see p2

low hearth
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What

limpid edge
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these 20m expert dungeons gotta stop

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too damn long

worn bluff
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go in like 2-3 times a week and get trapped by p1 memes

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well saw p2 for first time last week

limpid edge
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only gettin harder and harder to prog

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for 12 at least

low hearth
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hardest part is getting to p2

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i think

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without someone leaving

limpid edge
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p2 pre-idyllic is hard

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PFs take forever to fill

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and there aint many good players joining those cuz why would they

stray forge
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ill just continue progging with my static

low hearth
stray forge
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maybe they slow

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but its not miserable

rapid whale
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thats the important part

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if pf makes you wanna quit you shouldnt

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no shame in that

worn bluff
limpid edge
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pf makes me want to quit but that also makes me want to keep goin

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something about adversity and perseverance

rapid whale
shadow pilot
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jesus

low hearth
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wtf do i do after finishing reclears

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this game is so boring

limpid edge
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go play a gacha game, that's what the cool people do right?

low hearth
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got me joining uwu prog parties

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might just take the log off angle 😭

undone tide
rapid whale
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Nothing compares to the wraith King

stray forge
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Wrath of the Wraith King

amber fable
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I got free in 127 pulls for m11

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Then again a solid 30 or so wipes werent logged

amber fable
worn bluff
# rapid whale jesus

this was after we carried their corpse into p2 after an hour of them messing up more than other people

midnight furnace
limpid edge
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what's the easy way of remembering the mech order for idyllic?

midnight furnace
low hearth
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reps

midnight furnace
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Either Cardinal or Inter Cardinal

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You forget that you already cooked

rapid whale
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i have a set of notes but its for standard idyllic

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ig i could update it for uptime

wicked delta
rapid whale
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big congrats

low hearth
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congrats

shadow pilot
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congratz

trim frost
zealous meteor
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bunboys are just like that

wicked delta
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My parse got assfucked cus I just didn’t get healed in arena split gigampreg

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BUT ITS FINE

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TYRANT TOMORROW ANGER

worn bluff
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no one heals or mits in arena split

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it’s 8 strangers trying to survive

wicked delta
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I think its funny that arena split is like

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Probably my most consistent mech

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Thats where I saw the most damage downs on others

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Im coming for ur wig tomorrow, Tyrant.

worn bluff
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enjoy arena split again

wicked delta
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Can they stop splitting the arena im tired boss

worn bluff
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there’s also another one in 12

wicked delta
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IM TIRED BOSS

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Oh man im so excited

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Even though the clear run was really bad

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I had a lot of fun

low hearth
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the tyrant

jolly flume
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long live da king

rapid whale
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pipo pipo piii po pipo

limpid edge
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how many things burn?

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is idyllic the easiest mech of p2? real talk

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ok maybe not cuz superchain

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ok how bout easier than rep1 and 2?

wicked delta
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You talk like a chatbot man

low hearth
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probably superchain

limpid edge
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my superchain party had a lot of people still messin up rep1

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i mean good thing it's early but damn

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some of those messups were way too freequent. Is it the precision?

low hearth
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its the ranged players bro

limpid edge
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dont blame the please, ranged players are friends

wicked delta
low hearth
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half awake on the keyboard

jolly flume
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mb

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sorry

stray forge
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lowkey I blame chiyo for pretty much anything bad that happens to me in game

limpid edge
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the messups was my co-melee not knowing to stay mid for dark

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maybe he was fresh and joined

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forget mid, he wasnt even under the boss

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like 3 times in a row

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i think going directly mid is a trap

amber fable
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How hard is p2 anyway?...seems like a lot of study check

limpid edge
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nudge slightly closer to the fire clone and memes less likely to happen

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cuz people are not precise on the markers

limpid edge
low hearth
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idyllic is hard

rapid whale
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execution wise its nothing compared to 11s or even p1 (and p1 is nothing compared to 11s) but it is a big study check yeah

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theres also a lot of little 'gotchas'

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forgettinga bout earth tower etc

jolly flume
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you can just eat that shit

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😭

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the only actual problem I think is the ranged wind tower is surprisingly precise

limpid edge
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earth is poop colored

jolly flume
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light work

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10% and shields you live

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or just shields if you have gear

limpid edge
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why is lacus clyne in wuwa?

low hearth
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my healer debut bro

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mfs keep standing in the feather rain OMG

jolly flume
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r u deadass bored enough to do uwu

low hearth
jolly flume
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must be dire

limpid edge
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crazy pink haired ladies im TELLIN you

worn bluff
low hearth
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yo

limpid edge
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did they fix that bug

low hearth
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whats the slidecast plugin

limpid edge
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or was it a bug

amber fable
low hearth
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that has the lil marker on the cast bar

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ok

jolly flume
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thats not a bug

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arena split is bigger than the default arena

worn bluff
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simply don’t be ranged

jolly flume
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idk why you'd be standing that far back anyway

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being back is good when he throws the arena because of the safespot shape but after that you should probably move in

stray forge
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i dont have pink hair

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just stepped on a barrel and the entire outer furnishing of a home exploded

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nioh 3 literally unplayable

low hearth
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healer lowkey easy

mossy eagle
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Ok serious question. For DN rep 1, let's say I'm MT and standing NE next to my melee partner. The cleaves are aimed directly at us and we dodge them. Sometimes we just explode anyway and I'm not sure why

clear plume
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person dodging the cleaves is getting too close to the other clones and baiting 2 darks

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dodge backwards not in if you cant do a small dodge

limpid edge
mossy eagle
rapid whale
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then it gets kinda meh

limpid edge
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i loved invoke

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heard that shit nonstop

grand mesa
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idyllic is just 3 simple mechs layered

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rep 1 and rep 2 aren't complicated either

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superchain doesn't exist

low hearth
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gunbreakers when its time to press the fucking invuln button

midnight furnace
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To be honest Bolide is almost like hallowed ground now if you pop corundum with it

grand mesa
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I love when my gunbreaker evaporates because hp reduction happened before invuln application!

midnight furnace
grand mesa
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Unless it was fixed recently, it's been a thing

robust shoal
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hp reduction and invuln application have happened on the same server tick since 5.0

grand mesa
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I've seen logs of it not happening that way past that

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(by logs, death recap)

robust shoal
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I've never seen a log where they're not on the same tick

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Furen had one he thought it happened on and he just pressed it half a second late KEKW

grand mesa
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I've wiped to TEA because of the reduction, despite the gnb kitchen sinking for safety

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they would've lived on full hp

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only explanation I could think of was reduction and damage happening before invuln

robust shoal
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Though with the nerf to bolide it might be possible that you get the effects between snapshot and application so your hp is lower but the mit didn't snapshot on the hit

grand mesa
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yeah

robust shoal
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since it's a 100% mit now and not a can't die effect like it used to be

grand mesa
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we delayed pressing bolide until after the damage ticked in subsequent pulls and it was fine

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but the only real explanation to that death was hp reduc and dmg happening/snapshotting before the actual mit

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I'd bring you the fflog log if I could but, I'd have to dig through a lot of pulls

worn bluff
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is buff propagation still a thing? it seems like one time everyone got kera, but only the ranged had it snapshot in time for a raidwide

jolly flume
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yes

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kera propagates quite slowly

thin fox
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does anyone know if theres a plugin to let you lock the command panel so it doesnt close

jolly flume
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one of the great things about soil

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you dont have to put up with that shit

thin fox
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i think i'm good w macros

jolly flume
thin fox
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it closes if i hit escape

thin fox
robust shoal
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the really brutal thing is buffs take three server ticks to propagate

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but damage only takes one tick

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why are buffs so much slower

cerulean crown
worn bluff
# jolly flume kera propagates quite slowly

it was on the splattershed after curtain call which in PF seems to be undermitted a lot. i barely get rep off on that because it's like just over 45s after the fixer that i also rep

thin fox
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on executing action only affects like gcds

worn bluff
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that one time 4 people only had my rep as mit

jolly flume
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I usually just save my 30s mit

worn bluff
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it is pretty weak but 0 mit kills everyone bcaGuiltySweat

amber fable
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Just outgear the damage

jolly flume
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ngl i dont even know what I'd do with sage in a normal comp in doorboss

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like there's some skill equivalencies but scholar just gaps it so hard when everything hits like bricks

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zoe shield on fixer vs spreadlo

worn bluff
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pld mit pretty comfy in that fight

jolly flume
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ngl I just never want to prog w/o pld

worn bluff
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wings compensate for anyone who doesn't know how to mit fixer

stray forge
low hearth
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or too late

stray forge
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Oh my gunbreaker seems to press their mits late too

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Is it just a gnb thing

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Or are you meming wahahaha

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Idk if gnb skills for some reason take longer or something

low hearth
#

this fight is way too hard bruh

stray forge
#

Fight is way too long bruh

flint ledge
stray forge
#

They have multiple periods of wipes before 75% Thonk even in my meme parties we get past that

#

Must be joining fresh progs for the memes idk

rapid whale
daring pine
#

bapple wish my ia2 prog luck

stray forge
# rapid whale wat

Thats what I thought when I saw those periods of wiping before weapons

rapid whale
#

idk wat you are talking abt

rapid whale
daring pine
#

once i get enough reps i think i will be ready

low hearth
#

dang i got cooked by the fucking nidhogg clone aoe

#

😭

daring pine
#

i only need 1 piece from m10

#

lolol

daring pine
#

ok instance time

worn bluff
stray forge
low hearth
#

thanks for putting a spoiler tag on that

worn bluff
#

i mean yeah i do that sometimes too for alt jobs

#

but still why’d you reply to his message about m12

echo ibex
#

Dude it's

#

a lvl 50 trial

#

and wdym first time tanking

#

.-.

stray forge
#

i just replied to the closest message

worn bluff
daring pine
#

bro

#

can this reaper explode

#

this absolute fucking ape

stray forge
#

have mercy

echo ibex
daring pine
#

melee goes and sits with healer for proteans

#

ok i go sit with tank (im bard)

#

then this fucking idiot tries to swap positions last second and we get fire team killed

#

bro

low hearth
#

GIGACOOKED 👉 🐲

daring pine
#

what the FUCK are you doing

#

dps to the corner this

#

supports south that

#

man you picked a spot so please just fucking sit in it oh my god

tulip anvil
#

i have a question

echo ibex
#

All on black

echo ibex
daring pine
#

m10

tulip anvil
#

is pf's damage supposed to be terrible, the past few times ive raided with my half static i always get melees who are either under me or under both me and the dancer

#

im just wondering, is it hard for people to be competent?

echo ibex
tulip anvil
#

its always the vprs too

stray forge
#

Those vprs are ex reapers vro

low hearth
echo ibex
stray forge
#

Wtf

#

I’ve never encountered a monk

tulip anvil
#

the run i did earlier with a mnk also did less damage than me and the dnc

stray forge
#

They exist?

worn bluff
tulip anvil
#

we should kill all pfers

stray forge
#

Mods

tulip anvil
#

but you cant since most of them are already dead

stray forge
#

He’s threatening me

finite plank
tulip anvil
daring pine
#

like

thin tartan
tulip anvil
#

how do i send it while redacting all the names?

daring pine
#

it genuinely just does not matter

stray forge
finite plank
#

there';s an anonymous mode

#

what's abg

#

able bodied grunt?

tulip anvil
#

adult baby girl?

low hearth
#

yo whats the content now

stray forge
#

These days it’s any Asian girl with blonde hair and tattoos apparently

low hearth
#

dsr is impossible

finite plank
stray forge
#

Like bro everyone knows you need to like boba to be a real abg but nah that shit doesn’t matter to the kids anymore

#

🙄

tulip anvil
#

how do i send a fflogs with anonymous mode?

low hearth
#

able bodied grunt

tulip anvil
#

nvm found it

finite plank
#

there's some arrow somewhere

low hearth
#

m11s @stray forge

stray forge
low hearth
#

the monk died bro

tulip anvil
#

i died too

#

we both died to the same thing at the same time

low hearth
#

wtf is sickest takeoff

stray forge
#

pct is like the best dps on that fight

low hearth
#

😭

stray forge
#

in general

daring pine
#

oh. hello

tulip anvil
#

yeah but that mnk sucked

amber fable
daring pine
tulip anvil
#

also they got all the loot

stray forge
#

i mean yes they did suck

low hearth
amber fable
#

Not me

#

I got 0 on m11

daring pine
#

parse 0 for highest loot chance

amber fable
#

No loot

#

🥀

finite plank
#

the uptime on the rdm is ass

#

just click fucking reprise

tulip anvil
daring pine
#

well today sucked

low hearth
#

dang yall disbanded

coral saffron
#

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but: do Expert and Level Cap count towards the High-Level part of the aether wells?

amber fable
#

Man I hope m11 reclears arent ass

stray forge
#

I've been slowly parsing lower and lower on every fight

finite plank
#

the mnk is... just dont play mnk if you have sub 90

amber fable
#

Level cap

#

Only

finite plank
#

barely any usage of sss to deal with downtime

amber fable
#

Expert and level cap

coral saffron
#

Dang

daring pine
stray forge
#

oh wait

#

nvm

daring pine
amber fable
#

Hot and deep

daring pine
#

pf lock in pls i want clear

tulip anvil
#

if ur ok with any chest i can help

low hearth
daring pine
#

no

#

xddd

stray forge
#

that looks very different from my prog

#

I feel like mine was fucking all over the place

daring pine
#

i want ia2 reps

#

but nobody can get to ia2

amber fable
#

Ia2 is mainly remembering when to swap

daring pine
#

yeah

low hearth
#

🏄‍♂️

daring pine
#

yo

#

bro.

tulip anvil
#

gonna be honest, dont try to join a ia2 party, i tried it before with my friends and we never saw it

daring pine
#

do you need a hug pain

tulip anvil
#

we didnt even clear arena split

stray forge
#

how do you see this

#

after u clear

low hearth
#

it would be like fire snaking baits

amber fable
#

I mean I caused wipes in m10 at 2%.....

daring pine
amber fable
#

Cuz I didnt baited the last tb

low hearth
#

press whatever fight ur on and then select the fight in the tier

amber fable
#

Party dies

finite plank
#

blist the rdm and mnk, tell them they suck too, having worse than mana dps

low hearth
finite plank
#

they shouldn't be raiding as a dps if they're going to be this trash

daring pine
#

pain do u wanna see my m9

stray forge
low hearth
#

ok

tulip anvil
daring pine
finite plank
#

wdym you cant get rid of the rdm

amber fable
#

150 pulls on 10 vs 127 on 11

#

M11 is easy fr fr

finite plank
#

there aare a lot of pfers that can certainly be better than those two

low hearth
#

idk m10s had a lot of dumb ass ways to wipe

stray forge
#

literally stuck on enrage for 10 gazillion years SadgePlant

low hearth
#

fire baits water spreads deep arial trolls

#

people not baiting the debuffs

tulip anvil
amber fable
#

Last alleyoop wipes

#

Pyrorotation wipes

finite plank
#

i'd leave if my partner dps is that bad

#

healer is one thing

#

but being a dps and being that bad to the point is something else

stray forge
low hearth
#

and then m11s is just wiping to everything over and over

amber fable
#

313 hours

low hearth
#

exactly

stray forge
#

nah im jk I edited it obv

#

anyways

finite plank
#

if they can't even slide cast as rdm, they should give up and click reprise

stray forge
#

I AM TAKING AN EXTENDED BREAK FROM TYRANNY TIME FUCK THAT SHIT

finite plank
#

it'd fuck with gauge but they already suck

stray forge
low hearth
finite plank
#

even if it's an alt job, it's rdm, the uptime should not be that low

#

i do not recall any extreme movement mechs in there that you can't just slide cast out

#

you have plenty of time to linger in the fire for fire stacks and slide cast out

#

you have plenty of time to cast and move at the same time for snaking

tulip anvil
#

its his first raid tier, and we're trying to teach him to get better

amber fable
#

Well as long as you all are fine with it..

low hearth
#

i mean you cleared the fight

finite plank
#

check his bar for displacement/gapcloser thing

tulip anvil
#

besides our damage hasnt been much of a problem for now

finite plank
#

tell him that it is absolutely fine to overwrite procs with acceleration/swift cast as rdm

#

i'd then have to assume it's also the first time they've raided for the mnk as well

tulip anvil
#

looking at the mnks other logs no its not their first time

#

they were around for light-heavyweight

#

also that mnk was a pf random not one of the static

stray forge
#

man

#

how am i just reaching the end of this demo

finite plank
#

regardless of static, they're both i'd want to blist as a pf wanderer for being htis questionable

#

i sucked when i was a new nin with the excessive throwing daggers for e10s

#

but as a job with range, a short-ish cast with maybe 1-2 seconds of movement

#

just get them to fix that ig

#

i dont know how long it'd take

#

but i would not be doing savage with them

#

i'd be doing ex or normal content to train

tulip anvil
#

they have gotten a lot better from when we did doomtrain, they have shown signs of improvement

finite plank
#

at least that's whata sosex did to me

rapid whale
#

o its 10

rapid whale
#

o mb

finite plank
#

both the rdm and mnk seem like a great couple

#

in equal skill

stray forge
#

Bro is still looking at the logs

#

☠️

rapid whale
finite plank
#

it's anonymous and it's right there

grand mesa
#

PF w1 was miserable

low hearth
#

long live the king

hot rose
#

Are the idyllic tower twisters the same size as the tower

#

Can you just go mid to always be safe

alpine plover
#

a bit bigger

#

mid should be safe

thin fox
#

i started doing the tank mit you suggested and its so much more consistent

low hearth
finite plank
#

choose sheep

#

especially if you're wind

#

i'm not keeping track of the erection that has erupted on the other side

dapper zealot
#

ayo

stray forge
#

???

finite plank
#

sorry, it wasn't has, it was going to erupt

#

i remember the initial twister spawns a pillar, i think, then it'd show up again

#

but i didn't really bother remember to see that part

stray forge
thin fox
#

let me see if I remember Idyllic order correct
raidwide -> check if card/intercard -> check which # you are -> swap -> check whether n sides or s sides -> swap -> check if defam or stack first -> get tether -> swap dodge n or s sides -> go to platforms -> check if tower swap needed -> swap -> tether stacks/defams -> swap -> towers -> tower debuffs -> check which is teleported -> check which platform is safe -> swap -> remember if card/intercard -> swap -> go to safe platform and do dodge -> swap -> do other card/intercard -> dodge teleported clone -> raidwide -> done

#

I think that's right

low hearth
#

yea

#

Long mech

thin fox
#

the acting parties you setup during tethers is only used for the stacks/defams right

#

for towers you use your true light parties?

rapid whale
#

yea

low hearth
#

it’s free after the stacks/defams ngl

#

and it’s only the defam players that can troll

thin fox
#

idk if i actually will end up needing them but i prepped these just in case

#

these are the only things I think I would have a non-zero chance of forgetting

low hearth
#

just use the macro for idyllic and remember doom north wind middle and earth/fire melee in between

thin fox
#

I find it easier to remember based on my debuff

#

near north, far middle, nothing between

low hearth
#

you can healer lb3 and still clear if something happens during tower debuffs

thin fox
#

actually psychotic that a non-zero number of parties are still doing the old strat for defams/stacks

low hearth
#

I recleared with that old strat this week ngl Classic

thin fox
#

yeah let me run to narnia rq during my 6m

low hearth
#

I hope people don’t push banana rep 2 next week

thin fox
#

I don't think they will atp

low hearth
#

There was a couple prog parties with it

loud nymph
hot rose
#

As an OT girly i prefer MT-ing phase 2

#

Cause like

#

I can use my cd’s on myself 🥰

low hearth
#

Those autos hurt bruh

hot rose
#

Yeah but if I OT I have to give my shareables to MT

#

And its annoying to keep having to target

grand mesa
#

you generally shouldnt be relying on healers for shit if you can help it

thin fox
#

I would trust you to heal aura

#

not the average pf healer though yin

grand mesa
#

Please don't take the post act 1 autos raw or you WILL die if my coheal isnt helping me

low hearth
#

What’s the tank mit bro

grand mesa
#

(i have to do 2 mins and press 1 million ogcds)

#

(you will get 1-2 healing ogcds and a star max)

worn bluff
#

first 4 mins of phase 1

dull drum
#

i use aurora and hoc and reprisal and thats enough for the autos until coil

worn bluff
dull drum
#

well its more so that if you rep end of cast fixer

#

it catches that + first set of autos

#

and then OT can rep second set of autos before coil happens

thin fox
#

i will usually rep after the raidwide and then hit dark mind after act 2 cast

#

i don't tbn because i farm my proc off fixer

worn bluff
#

we do OT rep act 1 into buster, MT rep fixer into autos

#

ramp+etc after act 2 cast

thin fox
#

i'm progging m12 w 2 friends now so at least our reps are being used properly cuz we just do the same shit every pull

worn bluff
#

we have lots of mit for act 2 autos since we use ramp in mortal slayer

#

yeah same i cotank with friend in PF

alpine plover
#

You can ramp and 90s act 2 cast

#

They will be back for dragon heads tbs

worn bluff
#

we invuln dragon head so we end up having everything for slayer 2

alpine plover
#

Fairge

worn bluff
#

i actually don’t even use 90 bc i’m pretty healthy with just ramp for act 2 autos and by the time i have weave slots in 1min it’s not worth

alpine plover
#

We invuln the stack tbs after all cuz it's cringe

worn bluff
#

actually it comes back a little later too depending on when my slayer 1 hit was

alpine plover
#

I ramp 90s opener autos

40s shortmit mortal slayer

Invuln the stackspred tbs

Ramp 90s shortmit act2 autos

Ramp 90s shortmit dragon tbs

40s shortmit other mortal slayer

worn bluff
#

i tried a little bit of gnb and it was pretty sketchy doing ramp+90+short on slayer. ig because camo is weaker on magic stuff than bulwark

alpine plover
#

Mine is just super chill

#

Idk

worn bluff
#

we do it with pld drk and it’s fine. my cotank is healthier there bc i give intervention

alpine plover
#

Phase2 is funny cuz i have like 2 things to rep as OT

#

So i just rep autos 95% of the time

#

Since my cotank reps most raidwides

finite plank
#

whats a 40s shortmit

rapid whale
#

isnt 40s 40%

valid solar
#

what sin did I commit in my past life

#

what gear do I get with books if ive yet to win a single piece

tulip anvil
#

its the one thats in the most demand rn

#

sure its not as good as a dps upgrade as the others but better get it out of the way earlier

valid solar
#

thonking is using shine to get an accessory to 90 better than replacing a crafted piece

tulip anvil
#

yes

#

well, no

#

but you'll have a higher chance of getting the rest as you do the fight more

finite plank
#

books should be on gear first imo, then comes the issue of m11 with it's costly 6 books where it's best to not spend any books for the absurd cost in books and the amount of twine needed

#

while it'd take a while... twines and glazes will be available from hunts in the long future later...

#

i spent mine for a hat

grand mesa
finite plank
#

yeah

grand mesa
#

augment first is safe if you need to upgrade multiple pieces, though

wicked delta
#

To the pink hrothgar lady who had rdm bis and outdps’d the whole party thank you for getting me my m10 clear I Love you

grand mesa
#

rdm pumps in 10

stray forge
#

Good morning elounge another beautiful day of not m11s ☺️

wicked delta
#

Bad

#

I was outdps’ing them on DNC

#

So when I saw her I was like woah… this is true power

remote gate
zealous meteor
remote gate
zealous meteor
stray forge
#

I’ve definitely committed some bad crimes in my past lives

wicked delta
#

My soul is beautiful and innocent so I didn’t commit any crimes

remote gate
#

bungo committed a most damaging crime

grand mesa
stray forge
#

I commit crimes every day

mossy eagle
#

I'm an international criminal in multiple countries for the crimes I commit on the daily. 😎

remote gate
valid solar
#

one time

#

Doesn't count

remote gate
#

posting feet is the ultimate sin im afraid

stray forge
#

I'll do it

#

I'll post feet next

zealous meteor
#

do not

#

post paws instead

wicked delta
#

Please do not

stray forge
zealous meteor
#

listen if you're gonna post ONE of them, post paws

#

but preferably post neither

wicked delta
#

Okay yeah I can get behind that

stray forge
flint ledge
zealous meteor
#

posting paws

loud swift
#

nice paws

normal blade
#

What should I use my capped math tomes on

zealous meteor
#

crafting mats or relic mats

echo ibex
#

Something I don't get in m12

#

Like okay the big defamation ball of darkness and destruction makes sense but

#

Why is heavy slam, you know, SLAM, punching you in the face destroying the floor, magic dmg

mossy eagle
#

It's a magical slam

#

It's infused with like...magic

#

Man remember when there was no legal way to see damage type

tulip anvil
#

is m12s fun, im probably not gonna get there for a while and i need something to look forward to

loud swift
#

but i guess its because theres two tanks whose party mits are more magic orientated than physical

mossy eagle
calm tundra
#

m12s is super satisfying to execute

mossy eagle
#

Idyllic Dream is a 4 and a half minute mechanic with a bunch to remember and a lot of steps to keep track of as the boss moves between two different dimensions. And even before then, Rep 2 requires you to learn 4ish different routes through the mechanic depending on a randomly assigned position. Vs. the rest of savage which tends to be "M1 goes here. Supports do this, DPS do this."

#

I do think the door boss is kind of meh, mostly because the door boss in past fights that have had them have been quite excellent (P8SP1, P12SP1 are generally quite well regarded)

normal blade
#

For relic aether well. do I need to be level 100 or no

tulip anvil
#

no

alpine plover
#

Personally i think idylic is shit

#

Mass macro creation mechanic that at the end of the day resolve slow af mechanics

clear plume
#

Objectively L take

#

Idyllic is the coolest savage mech weve gotten in probably 5 years

vestal hollow
#

fascinating to say idyllic is shit

clear plume
#

It’s up there with forsaken 2, hello world, gavel, and light rampant as like, S+ tier mechs to solve blind

#

We will see a lot of groups using 12s to prep for future tiers with new solves

#

There are some mechs that it’s not a case of finding the “correct” solve but it’s about understanding the mechanic enough to make a plan with a lot of flexibility for it and those r all within that type and idyllic is the first weve gotten of that in a long while

stray forge
#

new fish title where you need to catch the idyllic bream and the fish moves between two different dimensions

clear plume
#

I gues caloric would be that archetype but caloric is the weakest of them bc it’s less spectacle

alpine plover
#

Nope i will continue to disagree on this

#

The mechanic is ok. The fact that i gotta remember it for 4 minutes is not

stray forge
#

arent all fights basically just remembering mechanics for like 10-20 minutes though

jolly flume
#

well you're never remembering information about the permutation of a single mechanic for that long

alpine plover
#

I dont really find joy in using 2 macros in chat to use it later in the fight after 1 minute of afk

#

But if you all think this is revolutionary and S++ level design who am i to change your opinion

stray forge
#

I haven’t even gotten there yet Gladge

normal summit
#

I mean, as a puzzle, it's easily one of the best puzzle mechs they've done in a while. All perfectly sight-readable after you see each element once, but put together into a real marathon of a mechanic.

As far as execution goes, I'd still say it's a far more fun mechanic to execute each time than a lot of other super puzzle heavy mechanics

#

Resolving initial stacks/defams quickly enough, resolving towers correctly, keeping track of the adds as they teleport and remembering the final safe spot, all pretty fun from pull to pull

normal blade
#

Is noclippy safe to use or-

normal summit
#

Compare it to a similar length puzzle-heavy mech like TOP Hello World

stray forge
#

banned

compact heart
#

Disentigrated

normal blade
#

Nani

boreal pumice
#

while not a hard puzzle mech a more interesting one is FT with the locks

normal blade
#

Apparently my former OT was also using Noclippy

zealous meteor
#

noclippy is perfectly safe just don't talk about it in game

normal blade
#

Of course. Dont ask. dont tell

jolly flume
#

lf1 7.45 criterion no catgirls meow

zealous meteor
#

no catgirls????

#

damn chiyo is speciesist

loud swift
#

wtf did I do!!!

normal blade
#

yes

zealous meteor
#

because if so you're just misogynist
not speciesist uwucarby

jolly flume
#

under exceptional circumstances.

dapper zealot
#

uwu

normal blade
#

Catboys <3

zealous meteor
#

hmmmm

#

what about lalafells

#

would you accept shiggy

#

or mango

jolly flume
zealous meteor
#

damn

#

hater

dapper zealot
#

Auto blacklist

zealous meteor
#

what the helly

#

what did we do

#

:(

dapper zealot
#

Wah. Wah never changes

remote gate
#

mango is goated accept him

zealous meteor
boreal pumice
#

nah mango is a racist

normal blade
#

I want more joke glam weapons

#

Lemme primal rend with guitar

stray forge
#

I almost

#

just