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8p2 > 4p2 though
Egads! (time to pot)
Cats wasn’t getting 8:30 kts damn
Not going to lie they're both just too dogwater to rank
Main Theme from the Wii Shopping Channel (Nintendo) composed by Kazumi Totaka
busta rhymes goes to the m4s phase transition
I actually potted the 5min later on because getting 0/6/12 was rare and 0/5/10 is basically the same as 0/6/11
my potted 5 min on RPR was stronger than 6 min in that fight sometimes 
smuggle perfectio and 2 enshrouds
I potted 0/5/10 in my pld r1 and it went to 12:40 anyway 
did u triple reawaken or something
tbh if you want a real expert on vpr I'd ask in the balance, I only cosplayed as a good vpr in m4s
this seems too early tho
should ire then wait a couple gcds and send
also that ire is drifted
hm
i thought you wanted to start almost immediately after the ire because otherwise u dont fit 2 oroboros under buff
like if oyur reawaken is hit as the buffs go out, you lose 2nd oro
or is there like a sweet spot
the first ire is really early in the opener
idk what i did there iguess i just couldnt hold it any longer
I have found inner peace
if you don't drift it then you miss buffs going right into reawaken
Dying to the same boss over and over again in nioh because I lost all of my gaming skills
if it makes you feel any better the tutorial boss in sekiro walled me for an hour
God bless having no one to blame but yourself 🙏

iseee
this is a burst from my best m4s
ohhhhh right the initial ire is effectively 0gcd right
2 gcds after ire and the reawaken is the first thing that catches all buffs
icic
so you were literal when you said a couple

i should have known better
ive seen some cursed shit like ppl hit ire -> full slow combo -> then start the double reawaken and its like
you missed like half the second reawaken, esp the oroboros brudda
yeah that's late
you ire first gcd then?

well if ire and double ouroboros is kind of the mastery part of viper but everything else is alright i guess it's not too bad
but if you do that then your entire burst is basically in reawaken no?
which means you send every uncoiled fury out of buffs?
this was only one gcd between ire and reawaken
actually forgor if it's ire gcd burst or ire gcd gcd burst

my other bursts are silly bc I griefed 6min buffs for a 5min pot
and triple reawakened at 10min
i swear reawaken is quite the drug
so I don't have the exact timings to compare
and yeah advice I got from balans when I was going for 99 was sending coils more aggressively
if you get comfy with a fight you eventually learn how many you need for movement and then whatever extras you want to send just for gcd alignment
It highkey irks and triggers me when people don’t properly know how to put up a pf 😡
when people put 0 description and no ilvl lock it's an instant pass for me
there's a decent chance they're bad at other things too
I hate it most when people don’t lock jobs and roles
“Party recruitment has ended-“ and there’s 4 ranged dps
And the pf lead has the audacity to act shocked
cant complain about 4 phys if you dont lock jobs
And ppl will argue back that you should look at the pf first
Uhmm no bc some ppl use search criteria filters on pf
It will only show pf’s for me that show a spot for GNB lol
Thank you for coming to my ted talk 🗣️
yeah no, i mean it's good to check, but i would place first blame on party lead for being lazy/careless
The "no salt" "be confident" "don't suck" in the descriptions are huge red flags for me too
Like those are all implied IMHO
bro just say you are scared of watashia
I understand the no salt tho
the more positive the pf desc sounds the less I trust them
also the longer it is the less I trust them
the ideal pf description is like 2 words long
Some ppl comment and btch about every single wipe lol
i saw a PF the other day that said "come ready to work." which i get it, everyone should lock in for prog. but also just reading that made me want to log off and do something else lol
I got kicked after two wipes the other day
glup shitto prog | hector nation | good vibes only =^w^=
The classic dsr party just d as the description into a one pull totem
how about when they sound like they want to die? like watashia pf desc
I’m in a pf rn for m12s and the original desc said “tower prog”
2 ppl left bc they thought it was act 2 prog….
What is “tower prog” 🤣
Didn’t even say phase 2
ecliptic stampede
I told them to change it and they still didnt put idyllic
i've had someone join a p2 fresh prog when they were completely fresh to p1
Must be a derogatory word for them idk
ydillick is hard to spell okay
autoattack #70 prog
did no one join my egirl begging pf because I didn't lock as dnc
tobi teach me how to lure unsuspecting victims
idea: phys ranged slot that's BRD/MCH/DNC/SMN
One of these days I want someone to join without job stone
more static positioning for nether baits
but that doesn't have to do with how the rest of the mechanic is resolved
it takes out a failure point of the melee/tank being slow to avoid their defamation
and creates a scenario where there is no world they have a chance to lose a gcd
I’m tired of gcds mom
animation locks r effectively gcd tho smh
Come thru
😭
Everyone but DNC and healers dead, LB3, tanks forgor to voke?
Or the tanks both died and the melees are very bad at the game
everyone was alive


i got this tho fr fr

I only wanted to record a pov for a friend
u dont even need savage experience for that fight bruh
franky I think you should have uwu experience before being allowed into current savage 
If there ain't a wave to ride, just make one yourself!
I don't believe it's necessary to do an extreme before trying savage
My criterion group was asking if they need to cancel their normal raid in case it takes over 12h it was funny
It has a savage level to it but
785 sync on normal mode is lmao for my hopes for it
If it’s 785 sync savage it’s so over
But it was like 4h blind for alo crit so that’s why 12h is lmao
Even savage should die in 12
With no issues
o1s is impossible content
OwO
ummmm
hell yeah cure 1
i thought it was a mistake at first but they used it like seven times during that dungeon
freecure my beloved
on meteor rain MT shouldnt be standing on the W side right 
I hate white mages
whats wrong with white mage players bro
and 99 other jokes to tell your friends
White mage on the wrong side of arena split
I shed a tear
I just realized I got triple ranged in this party now

Two casters and a phys
Are we cooked
I mean, as long as one of you can fake melee, you'll be fine probably.
bum ass dancers.
people were telling the WHM they didn't go in to get the prey for arena split. they said "yes i did" and ragequit the party

A girl came up to me and asked if I could pentameld her gear
And I sure damn did
Always do what pretty girls ask for
just say biscuit
Biscuit is neither pretty or a woman
im so self conscious of my dps
I usually say oh maybe you wanna dance the other dps
no one ever listens to me

I just give dp to whoever has the best gear
thats good, its the first step on improving

just use your damn anti gravity gun
My statics melee tells the dnc to dp me instead on my alt 
now thats a deltascape deleter if ive ever seen one
(I have weapon and they do not)
"it's ok i'd rather kill the boss"
erm i do big boom like every 4s i think you should give it to me 
this dude might not be cut out for uwu dawg
Is it single digit
it was 9 
Ok but consider he wasn’t dped in that run
true...
Bro locks in under the weight of responsibility like a true alpha
That was higher than I thought
It was kind of boring bc it was really hard to wipe in
Fine first prog but like reclears it was such an easy fight bc even somebody fucking up is like ok we took damage we didn’t need to, not even pop mit to survive
0,01 enrage uuuuugg

enraging m10s 
They were so dead I was so upset 😭
you can do it
when r u going back in btw
streets need you in m11s
with this one simple trick, rage will stay far away from you
the actual way to not want to uninstall because of pf is to concentrate your time pfing into the first 3 weeks
after that its no mans land
dang bro couldve finished top by now 
or 1/4th of the way thru dsr
bro this stratergy board shit is the most unfunny stuff ever
its 67 level comedy for xiv
Whomst is this?
i saw one that was just a text box that said “mb”. i liked that one
It was cool the first couple of weeks now mfs dragging it on
It has been like a week
They only pulled 36 more times
I think they also gave up

friend of a friend of a friend
I can’t imagine progging a savage fight for 70 hours
fym also
I gave up
M10s had me about to call it quits after 20 hours 
they went in as recently as yest
Yeah but
How do you go from 1054 pulls in like 2 weeks
Had to retire the rest of week 1 after clearing that 😭
To 36 pulls in a week
Don’t give up !
They have to be doing this as a meme
I hate one piece
Ain't no way they did 1000 serious pulls
.
the wild thing is after 1100 pulls their best is 13%
like they never had a clean pull ever
or even a 1-2 death pull
yea i think 13% is like, died to two/four way fireball
that’s like 1/3 of their pulls tho
yea slacker
You can’t just give up after 400 pulls bruh
i should quit this tier and play nioh
Don’t quit the tier bruh !
Aren’t you at like rep 2
yeah but i never get to see p2
What
go in like 2-3 times a week and get trapped by p1 memes
well saw p2 for first time last week
p2 pre-idyllic is hard
PFs take forever to fill
and there aint many good players joining those cuz why would they
ill just continue progging with my static
waiting on shield healers 
pf makes me want to quit but that also makes me want to keep goin
something about adversity and perseverance
jesus
jesus
go play a gacha game, that's what the cool people do right?
what’s worse this or watashia dsr
Nothing compares to the wraith King
Wrath of the Wraith King
Log off
this was after we carried their corpse into p2 after an hour of them messing up more than other people
Thats how i am with mine, we slowly progging through M10S but soon we will reach M12S also
what's the easy way of remembering the mech order for idyllic?
First step is to never forget the order of clones appearance
reps

big congrats
congrats
congratz
ur so nonchalant
bunboys are just like that
My parse got assfucked cus I just didn’t get healed in arena split 
BUT ITS FINE
TYRANT TOMORROW 
I think its funny that arena split is like
Probably my most consistent mech
Thats where I saw the most damage downs on others
Im coming for ur wig tomorrow, Tyrant.
enjoy arena split again
there’s also another one in 12
IM TIRED BOSS
Oh man im so excited
Even though the clear run was really bad
I had a lot of fun
the tyrant
long live da king
pipo pipo piii po pipo
how many things burn?
is idyllic the easiest mech of p2? real talk
ok maybe not cuz superchain
ok how bout easier than rep1 and 2?
You talk like a chatbot man
my superchain party had a lot of people still messin up rep1
i mean good thing it's early but damn
some of those messups were way too freequent. Is it the precision?
thats a hard mech for ranged and healers
its the ranged players bro
dont blame the please, ranged players are friends
Mb
half awake on the keyboard
lowkey I blame chiyo for pretty much anything bad that happens to me in game
the messups was my co-melee not knowing to stay mid for dark
maybe he was fresh and joined
forget mid, he wasnt even under the boss
like 3 times in a row
i think going directly mid is a trap
How hard is p2 anyway?...seems like a lot of study check
nudge slightly closer to the fire clone and memes less likely to happen
cuz people are not precise on the markers
memorize this order , you're good
idyllic is hard
execution wise its nothing compared to 11s or even p1 (and p1 is nothing compared to 11s) but it is a big study check yeah
theres also a lot of little 'gotchas'
forgettinga bout earth tower etc
you can just eat that shit
😭
the only actual problem I think is the ranged wind tower is surprisingly precise
earth is poop colored
why is lacus clyne in wuwa?
r u deadass bored enough to do uwu

must be dire
crazy pink haired ladies im TELLIN you
i heard that part of the back of arena split overlaps with death wall when it turns back

yo
did they fix that bug
whats the slidecast plugin
or was it a bug
Simpletweak
simply don’t be ranged
idk why you'd be standing that far back anyway
being back is good when he throws the arena because of the safespot shape but after that you should probably move in
i dont have pink hair
just stepped on a barrel and the entire outer furnishing of a home exploded
nioh 3 literally unplayable
my b
Ok serious question. For DN rep 1, let's say I'm MT and standing NE next to my melee partner. The cleaves are aimed directly at us and we dodge them. Sometimes we just explode anyway and I'm not sure why
person dodging the cleaves is getting too close to the other clones and baiting 2 darks
dodge backwards not in if you cant do a small dodge
gundam seed had banger music
Oooo good to know thank you
the first like 15 seconds of ignite is peak
then it gets kinda meh
It's hard until it isn't
idyllic is just 3 simple mechs layered
rep 1 and rep 2 aren't complicated either
superchain doesn't exist
To be honest Bolide is almost like hallowed ground now if you pop corundum with it
I love when my gunbreaker evaporates because hp reduction happened before invuln application!
I thought that was fixed?
hp reduction and invuln application have happened on the same server tick since 5.0
I've never seen a log where they're not on the same tick
Furen had one he thought it happened on and he just pressed it half a second late 
I've wiped to TEA because of the reduction, despite the gnb kitchen sinking for safety
they would've lived on full hp
only explanation I could think of was reduction and damage happening before invuln
Though with the nerf to bolide it might be possible that you get the effects between snapshot and application so your hp is lower but the mit didn't snapshot on the hit
yeah
since it's a 100% mit now and not a can't die effect like it used to be
we delayed pressing bolide until after the damage ticked in subsequent pulls and it was fine
but the only real explanation to that death was hp reduc and dmg happening/snapshotting before the actual mit
I'd bring you the fflog log if I could but, I'd have to dig through a lot of pulls
is buff propagation still a thing? it seems like one time everyone got kera, but only the ranged had it snapshot in time for a raidwide
does anyone know if theres a plugin to let you lock the command panel so it doesnt close
i think i'm good w macros
it shouldn't close unless you manually hit the keybind for it no?
it closes if i hit escape
i have card/inter first, n/s sides safe, stack/defam first, e/w plat safe, side/ frontback safe last
the really brutal thing is buffs take three server ticks to propagate
but damage only takes one tick
why are buffs so much slower
you can turn off the setting that says 'close panel on executing action' but i don't think there's any way, plugin or no, to keep it always open
it was on the splattershed after curtain call which in PF seems to be undermitted a lot. i barely get rep off on that because it's like just over 45s after the fixer that i also rep
on executing action only affects like gcds
that one time 4 people only had my rep as mit
yeah I think a lot of people just blow their load on curtain call and forget that there's an (admittedly weak) raidwide after
I usually just save my 30s mit
it is pretty weak but 0 mit kills everyone 
Just outgear the damage
ngl i dont even know what I'd do with sage in a normal comp in doorboss
like there's some skill equivalencies but scholar just gaps it so hard when everything hits like bricks
zoe shield on fixer vs spreadlo
pld mit pretty comfy in that fight
ngl I just never want to prog w/o pld
wings compensate for anyone who doesn't know how to mit fixer
What does it mean
Oh my gunbreaker seems to press their mits late too
Is it just a gnb thing
Or are you meming 
Idk if gnb skills for some reason take longer or something
this fight is way too hard bruh
Fight is way too long bruh
just kill it
I will call bs on your friend
They have multiple periods of wipes before 75%
even in my meme parties we get past that
Must be joining fresh progs for the memes idk
wat
bapple wish my ia2 prog luck
Thats what I thought when I saw those periods of wiping before weapons
idk wat you are talking abt
good luck
once i get enough reps i think i will be ready
i'm guessing they replied to the wrong person but now i'm curious too
this only happened to me when i went to play with people at an earlier prog point
thanks for putting a spoiler tag on that
i mean yeah i do that sometimes too for alt jobs
but still why’d you reply to his message about m12
sorry I've been off my meds for like two weeks and my brain be going places 
i just replied to the closest message

Wha happyn
snaking starts and we're on water
melee goes and sits with healer for proteans
ok i go sit with tank (im bard)
then this fucking idiot tries to swap positions last second and we get fire team killed
bro
👉 🐲
what the FUCK are you doing
dps to the corner this
supports south that
man you picked a spot so please just fucking sit in it oh my god
i have a question
All on black
What fight again
m10
is pf's damage supposed to be terrible, the past few times ive raided with my half static i always get melees who are either under me or under both me and the dancer
im just wondering, is it hard for people to be competent?
Bruh, alleyop?
Yup
Also yup
its always the vprs too
Those vprs are ex reapers vro
If there ain't a wave to ride, just make one yourself! 
Onle ones you can trust are NIN and MNK
the run i did earlier with a mnk also did less damage than me and the dnc
They exist?
people do not realize that if you're all standing in a place to resolve the mechanic, you don't have to swap just to follow the raidplan
we should kill all pfers
Mods
but you cant since most of them are already dead
He’s threatening me
Got the logs?
try it
yea
yeah we would've been fine its not like having melee + tank and prange + healer is going to change anything at all
like
how do i send it while redacting all the names?
it genuinely just does not matter
@jolly flume second one is all u
adult baby girl?
yo whats the content now
These days it’s any Asian girl with blonde hair and tattoos apparently
dsr is impossible
is this considered an anomaly to think of nowadays
Like bro everyone knows you need to like boba to be a real abg but nah that shit doesn’t matter to the kids anymore
🙄
how do i send a fflogs with anonymous mode?
able bodied grunt
nvm found it
there's some arrow somewhere
m11s @stray forge
the monk died bro
wtf is sickest takeoff
pct is like the best dps on that fight
😭
in general
oh. hello
yeah but that mnk sucked
Arterial blood gas
its the wave with spreads/lp stack
also they got all the loot
i mean yes they did suck
the less you parse the higher rolls on loot you get
parse 0 for highest loot chance
i never see him use reprise when i play with him
well today sucked
dang yall disbanded
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but: do Expert and Level Cap count towards the High-Level part of the aether wells?
Man I hope m11 reclears arent ass
no, only high level roulette
the mnk is... just dont play mnk if you have sub 90
No
barely any usage of sss to deal with downtime
Expert and level cap
Dang
💔
Hot and deep
pf lock in pls i want clear
if ur ok with any chest i can help
u made it to ia2?
that looks very different from my prog
I feel like mine was fucking all over the place
Ia2 is mainly remembering when to swap
yeah
🏄♂️
gonna be honest, dont try to join a ia2 party, i tried it before with my friends and we never saw it
do you need a hug pain
we didnt even clear arena split
it would be like fire snaking baits
I mean I caused wipes in m10 at 2%.....
Cuz I didnt baited the last tb
press whatever fight ur on and then select the fight in the tier
Party dies
blist the rdm and mnk, tell them they suck too, having worse than mana dps
they shouldn't be raiding as a dps if they're going to be this trash
pain do u wanna see my m9

ok
i cant get rid of the rdm, but we're not raiding with the monk again
wdym you cant get rid of the rdm
there aare a lot of pfers that can certainly be better than those two
idk m10s had a lot of dumb ass ways to wipe
literally stuck on enrage for 10 gazillion years 
hes part of the half static
i'd leave if my partner dps is that bad
healer is one thing
but being a dps and being that bad to the point is something else

and then m11s is just wiping to everything over and over
313 hours
exactly
if they can't even slide cast as rdm, they should give up and click reprise
I AM TAKING AN EXTENDED BREAK FROM TYRANNY TIME FUCK THAT SHIT
it'd fuck with gauge but they already suck

its fun when it clears bro
even if it's an alt job, it's rdm, the uptime should not be that low
i do not recall any extreme movement mechs in there that you can't just slide cast out
you have plenty of time to linger in the fire for fire stacks and slide cast out
you have plenty of time to cast and move at the same time for snaking
its his first raid tier, and we're trying to teach him to get better
Well as long as you all are fine with it..
i mean you cleared the fight
check his bar for displacement/gapcloser thing
besides our damage hasnt been much of a problem for now
tell him that it is absolutely fine to overwrite procs with acceleration/swift cast as rdm
i'd then have to assume it's also the first time they've raided for the mnk as well
looking at the mnks other logs no its not their first time
they were around for light-heavyweight
also that mnk was a pf random not one of the static
regardless of static, they're both i'd want to blist as a pf wanderer for being htis questionable
i sucked when i was a new nin with the excessive throwing daggers for e10s
but as a job with range, a short-ish cast with maybe 1-2 seconds of movement
just get them to fix that ig
i dont know how long it'd take
but i would not be doing savage with them
i'd be doing ex or normal content to train
they have gotten a lot better from when we did doomtrain, they have shown signs of improvement
at least that's whata sosex did to me
look at deez
it's anonymous and it's right there
long live the king
Are the idyllic tower twisters the same size as the tower
Can you just go mid to always be safe
hi valval 
i started doing the tank mit you suggested and its so much more consistent
yes or sheep 
choose sheep
especially if you're wind
i'm not keeping track of the erection that has erupted on the other side
ayo
???
sorry, it wasn't has, it was going to erupt
i remember the initial twister spawns a pillar, i think, then it'd show up again
but i didn't really bother remember to see that part

let me see if I remember Idyllic order correct
raidwide -> check if card/intercard -> check which # you are -> swap -> check whether n sides or s sides -> swap -> check if defam or stack first -> get tether -> swap dodge n or s sides -> go to platforms -> check if tower swap needed -> swap -> tether stacks/defams -> swap -> towers -> tower debuffs -> check which is teleported -> check which platform is safe -> swap -> remember if card/intercard -> swap -> go to safe platform and do dodge -> swap -> do other card/intercard -> dodge teleported clone -> raidwide -> done

I think that's right
the acting parties you setup during tethers is only used for the stacks/defams right
for towers you use your true light parties?
yea
idk if i actually will end up needing them but i prepped these just in case
these are the only things I think I would have a non-zero chance of forgetting
just use the macro for idyllic and remember doom north wind middle and earth/fire melee in between
I find it easier to remember based on my debuff
near north, far middle, nothing between
you can healer lb3 and still clear if something happens during tower debuffs
actually psychotic that a non-zero number of parties are still doing the old strat for defams/stacks
I recleared with that old strat this week ngl 
I don't think they will atp
There was a couple prog parties with it
no wonder it took hector 20 minutes to explain idyllic
Those autos hurt bruh
Yeah but if I OT I have to give my shareables to MT
And its annoying to keep having to target
glad to hear it's helped
you generally shouldnt be relying on healers for shit if you can help it

Please don't take the post act 1 autos raw or you WILL die if my coheal isnt helping me
What’s the tank mit bro
(i have to do 2 mins and press 1 million ogcds)
(you will get 1-2 healing ogcds and a star max)
how about this one
first 4 mins of phase 1
uhh i have both tanks should have reprisal
i use aurora and hoc and reprisal and thats enough for the autos until coil
you mean at the same time right? i heard that makes them stronger

well its more so that if you rep end of cast fixer
it catches that + first set of autos
and then OT can rep second set of autos before coil happens
i will usually rep after the raidwide and then hit dark mind after act 2 cast
i don't tbn because i farm my proc off fixer
i'm progging m12 w 2 friends now so at least our reps are being used properly cuz we just do the same shit every pull
we have lots of mit for act 2 autos since we use ramp in mortal slayer
yeah same i cotank with friend in PF
we invuln dragon head so we end up having everything for slayer 2
Fairge
i actually don’t even use 90 bc i’m pretty healthy with just ramp for act 2 autos and by the time i have weave slots in 1min it’s not worth
We invuln the stack tbs after all cuz it's cringe
actually it comes back a little later too depending on when my slayer 1 hit was
I ramp 90s opener autos
40s shortmit mortal slayer
Invuln the stackspred tbs
Ramp 90s shortmit act2 autos
Ramp 90s shortmit dragon tbs
40s shortmit other mortal slayer
i tried a little bit of gnb and it was pretty sketchy doing ramp+90+short on slayer. ig because camo is weaker on magic stuff than bulwark
we do it with pld drk and it’s fine. my cotank is healthier there bc i give intervention
Phase2 is funny cuz i have like 2 things to rep as OT
So i just rep autos 95% of the time
Since my cotank reps most raidwides
whats a 40s shortmit
isnt 40s 40%
what sin did I commit in my past life

what gear do I get with books if ive yet to win a single piece
shine
its the one thats in the most demand rn
sure its not as good as a dps upgrade as the others but better get it out of the way earlier
is using shine to get an accessory to 90 better than replacing a crafted piece
yes
well, no
but you'll have a higher chance of getting the rest as you do the fight more
books should be on gear first imo, then comes the issue of m11 with it's costly 6 books where it's best to not spend any books for the absurd cost in books and the amount of twine needed
while it'd take a while... twines and glazes will be available from hunts in the long future later...
i spent mine for a hat
see if you get pants or augment then spend books on the other
yeah
augment first is safe if you need to upgrade multiple pieces, though
To the pink hrothgar lady who had rdm bis and outdps’d the whole party thank you for getting me my m10 clear I Love you
rdm pumps in 10
Good morning elounge another beautiful day of not m11s ☺️
All the red mages ive had before her were pretty um
Bad
I was outdps’ing them on DNC
So when I saw her I was like woah… this is true power
i can give you an answer for this if you'd like
what sins did i commit 
your nose was in tickling distance

I’ve definitely committed some bad crimes in my past lives
My soul is beautiful and innocent so I didn’t commit any crimes
bungo committed a most damaging crime
Fair. Probably a user issue, not a job one- I fear
I commit crimes every day
I'm an international criminal in multiple countries for the crimes I commit on the daily. 😎
you posted feet
posting feet is the ultimate sin im afraid
Please do not
how did you know
Okay yeah I can get behind that
Interesting gif to wake up to
Holy Ghost ping
posting paws
nice paws
What should I use my capped math tomes on
crafting mats or relic mats
Something I don't get in m12
Like okay the big defamation ball of darkness and destruction makes sense but
Why is heavy slam, you know, SLAM, punching you in the face destroying the floor, magic dmg
It's a magical slam
It's infused with like...magic
Man remember when there was no legal way to see damage type
is m12s fun, im probably not gonna get there for a while and i need something to look forward to
Theres a lot of fights that i feel the magic raidwide should be physical
but i guess its because theres two tanks whose party mits are more magic orientated than physical
Depends on what you find fun. Phase 2 is the first time all expansion (for savage) we've had extensive mechanics involve more logic and sequencing rather than "reflexes"
m12s is super satisfying to execute
Idyllic Dream is a 4 and a half minute mechanic with a bunch to remember and a lot of steps to keep track of as the boss moves between two different dimensions. And even before then, Rep 2 requires you to learn 4ish different routes through the mechanic depending on a randomly assigned position. Vs. the rest of savage which tends to be "M1 goes here. Supports do this, DPS do this."
I do think the door boss is kind of meh, mostly because the door boss in past fights that have had them have been quite excellent (P8SP1, P12SP1 are generally quite well regarded)
For relic aether well. do I need to be level 100 or no
no
Personally i think idylic is shit
Mass macro creation mechanic that at the end of the day resolve slow af mechanics
Objectively L take
Idyllic is the coolest savage mech weve gotten in probably 5 years
fascinating to say idyllic is shit
It’s up there with forsaken 2, hello world, gavel, and light rampant as like, S+ tier mechs to solve blind
We will see a lot of groups using 12s to prep for future tiers with new solves
There are some mechs that it’s not a case of finding the “correct” solve but it’s about understanding the mechanic enough to make a plan with a lot of flexibility for it and those r all within that type and idyllic is the first weve gotten of that in a long while
new fish title where you need to catch the idyllic bream and the fish moves between two different dimensions
I gues caloric would be that archetype but caloric is the weakest of them bc it’s less spectacle
Nope i will continue to disagree on this
The mechanic is ok. The fact that i gotta remember it for 4 minutes is not
arent all fights basically just remembering mechanics for like 10-20 minutes though
well you're never remembering information about the permutation of a single mechanic for that long
I dont really find joy in using 2 macros in chat to use it later in the fight after 1 minute of afk
But if you all think this is revolutionary and S++ level design who am i to change your opinion
I haven’t even gotten there yet 
I mean, as a puzzle, it's easily one of the best puzzle mechs they've done in a while. All perfectly sight-readable after you see each element once, but put together into a real marathon of a mechanic.
As far as execution goes, I'd still say it's a far more fun mechanic to execute each time than a lot of other super puzzle heavy mechanics
Resolving initial stacks/defams quickly enough, resolving towers correctly, keeping track of the adds as they teleport and remembering the final safe spot, all pretty fun from pull to pull
Is noclippy safe to use or-
Compare it to a similar length puzzle-heavy mech like TOP Hello World
Disentigrated
Nani
while not a hard puzzle mech a more interesting one is FT with the locks
Apparently my former OT was also using Noclippy
noclippy is perfectly safe just don't talk about it in game
Of course. Dont ask. dont tell
lf1 7.45 criterion no catgirls 
wtf did I do!!!
yes
actually would you accept catboys
because if so you're just misogynist
not speciesist 
uwu
Catboys <3

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Wah. Wah never changes
mango is goated accept him

nah mango is a racist















