endgame-lounge

[jolly flume]

just position better

[shy obsidian]

so Hot Aerial targets the furthest fire guy, right?

[craggy marsh]

Standing in boss is weird

[shy obsidian]

just wanna make sure

[stray forge]

Sometimes I just like to complain, okay?

[craggy marsh]

The jumps during snaking?

Ye

[shy obsidian]

eyyeyeyyeye

[amber fable]

idk man i forgot everything in m10

[jolly flume]

complaining is fun

we should do it about white mages more

[amber fable]

reclears gonna be fun

[rapid whale]

im not 100% on it but i believe the targetting happens when they land on the previous one

[shy obsidian]

can Red Hot hit the same guy twice during this?

[amber fable]

yes

[shy obsidian]

oh jeez

[rapid whale]

eg if you aren't already out and they land, moving out atp is too late

[craggy marsh]

Complaining is really fun especially when it makes other people mad bc they feel targeted even when it's all jokes

[rapid whale]

what if i pretend to feel mad to hide the fact i feel sad?

[craggy marsh]

Is this the tech to get whm buffed more

[craggy marsh]

Then we must kiss

[stray forge]

Best I can do is simplify your class more

[jolly flume]

also

yknow

on my alt splits today

[craggy marsh]

Jokes on you i dont play shit jobs like whm

[jolly flume]

I did a little experiment

I heal spammed

didn't pot

still close to 21k in every fight in 773 gear

and there's four alts with zero gear in my party not feeding chain + buffs

so I really don't know

how people in pf are managing to do less with like 10 more ilvl

[craggy marsh]

They have to do mechanics and thats very hard for them

[jolly flume]

legit how many gcds do you have to drop to do that badly

[stray forge]

Well I already posted the 60% uptime healers

[craggy marsh]

Idk how people drop more than 3 gcds before they go "Hmm something is wrong"

[jolly flume]

like I pressed succor on every single castbar, I succored FOUR TIMES for the multihit after arena split in 11

I think that tweet about oversimplification of healer kits filtering out all the actually good healer players from wanting to play the role was onto something

[craggy marsh]

Pf will always have creatures

Surprised they make it this far

But the bar is low after all

I fear for the unfortunate soul who gets Fade in their pf

[amber fable]

pf healers cant even spot heal during arena in m11 bruh

gcd utpime is xenoglossy for them

[terse zodiac]

if you think thats bad i just had healers that couldnt get us through cutback blaze

[amber fable]

all the good players end up in static

so gotta deal with dregs

its me I am the dreg

[craggy marsh]

And the dregs are the good dregs who pf early

Late pf is just a shitshow

Friday is my pf cut-off

Any later then that and I get the people who think expert dungeons are endgame content

[jolly flume]

it's in the name

they're dungeons for experts

[clear plume]

I’m ngl, they are endgame content by every definition

[craggy marsh]

Expert dungeon is a weird name for em

Unless the devs think they require expert level play

[terse zodiac]

yeah monday pf is still a nightmare lmao

few c41 few reclear groups all still stuck at water/firesnaking

or earlier

[rapid whale]

sajjies

[clear plume]

bapple i have news apparently i bought my forked tower runs til

[dapper zealot]

can't believe you'd do that smh

[clear plume]

"lzAdamantoise: bard is just jealous that he can't buy a clear of forked like he did savage"

9i cleared forked before this guy btw)

[dapper zealot]

lol what even was the context

[clear plume]

he was talking in shout chat about how savage is just a waste of time bc its not meant to actually be cleared by average people and forked tower is a better sign of skill because it takes more people

and everybody in shout chat was clowning on him for it

and i typed and i quote

[dapper zealot]

lmao

[clear plume]

Bard Sucks: bros entire ego is built around his forked tower clears just mute him and let him have it

[dapper zealot]

bro mad he sucks

probably kept getting called out and blacklisted

[craggy marsh]

his fem miqo kitten cheated on him pls understand

[dapper zealot]

it would be hilarious if it was zane

[craggy marsh]

I miss them

I miss being called an asshole for trying to give advice

[hidden stag]

What's the next hardest ultimate after UWU.

[tired egret]

you already done UCoB?

that should be the next hardest I think

[hidden stag]

Am almost done with uwu

Just seeing which gear I should grind next

For tge next ultimate

[tired egret]

gotchu

[thin fox]

so TOXIC

[valid solar]

Every ultimate that isn't FRU is already Stat capped by current gear

If you really wanted to you could get the relic of the relevant expansion but I'm pretty sure that's completely unnecessary unless you wanted to parse

[kind elm]

dont need to grind any gear if youre at lvl100 already with that gear

lvl100 gear is fine

tbh lvl90 gear is fine

[hidden stag]

Oh hm I am 100,I thought there were like bis specific gear for ultimates and such

[kind elm]

there are

but for the 70s and 80 ults

the difference is pretty small

[hidden stag]

Ah I get you I get you

[kind elm]

because of gear creep

once you start doing the lvl90s you can look into grinding out BiS but you do not need to do that for 70s and 80s

[hidden stag]

Aight thanks appreciate it

[kind elm]

!faq ultilvlsync

[storm frost]

Error!

No tag named ultilvlsync exists, Kupo!

[kind elm]

fuckin its one of these

!faq ultisync

[storm frost]

Syncing Gear For Ultimates

Sufficiently high item-level gear can cap both substats when synced down. Similarly, relics with customizable stats can have substats allocated so that fewer substats are lost to the sync (see !faq ilvlsync for more info on how gear syncing works). At the bottom of this FAQ is a table of required item level to cap both stats (used for most gear slots), along with the stat caps for weapons (relevant for relic stat allocation) and the minimum potion grade needed to cap (where applicable).

https://xivgear.app supports item level sync. You can choose the character and item levels when creating a sheet. You can also use the classic calculator https://bit.ly/XIVGearSyncCalc.

[rapid whale]

@thin fox

[thin fox]

[rapid whale]

not your fault tbh

hope you find a better party

[dapper zealot]

I just realised you can put down waymarkers in the patisserie

raidplan time

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27567306

[trim frost]

[low hearth]

fucking fat asses rolling on the earring they dont even need

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[daring pine]

mb

3 weeks no gear gg

had to book my..first accessory

skull reaction

[low hearth]

😭

[echo ibex]

Bro there's no way

Is this cheap already jeez

[wicked delta]

760 ilvl is kinda lol

[valid solar]

people who set the ilevel to min have a faith in pf I wish I had

[thin fox]

p sure 760 is lower than what the default lowest is

no?

oh wait m9s

nvm

thought it was m10

[rapid whale]

another week of no loot on this chara

[valid solar]

imagine winning rolls in 2026

could never be me

[tulip anvil]

the person who won the loot probably didnt deserve it

[rapid whale]

they didnt

it was a healer who refused to cleanse doom tower

friend was streaming and they were going over the replay in utter awe

10s, neither healer cleansed

[valid solar]

claire es disciple

[rapid whale]

[tulip anvil]

whats that french saying that depressed people say?

cus that

[rapid whale]

c'est la vie?

[tulip anvil]

yes, that

[amber fable]

y'all winning loot?

[tulip anvil]

i gotta fight for a ring on wednesday so probably not

but based on the cheap lootmaster prices i can probably just buy it

[wicked delta]

I won a book and thats what counts ❤️

[rain geode]

Simply win more

[rapid whale]

you're so right bestie

[rain geode]

Right? It's what I did. Ive won 6 pieces from M10S so far

[low hearth]

god these 3 pulls then dip mfs need to stop

and why cant people bait fireball HOLY SHIT

STAND IN THE HITBOX

[rapid whale]

r ppl not doing fixed

[low hearth]

fucking 3 way fireball

[rapid whale]

1 way pain train

[thin fox]

i'm so dogshit at this game dude

[low hearth]

the fucking samurai is standing max melee for four way

[thin fox]

i just shouldn't do my reclears this week

[tulip anvil]

ive seen a few of those kinds of people who suck and cause the wipes that make them leave

[rapid whale]

u stop bullying our friend

ill fight u

[low hearth]

dang m11s reclears are annoying

[thin fox]

can't do mechanics and i can't do damage on my caster

[low hearth]

mfs be dying to air during the ecliptic puddles

😭

[rain geode]

I am adequate at this game

[thin fox]

i am ok on tank and dogshit at caster

[tulip anvil]

im the best player this game has known or ever will know

[rain geode]

Caster is hard

[thin fox]

i don't play a difficult caster lol

[tulip anvil]

summoner?

[thin fox]

picto

so like 1 step removed

[low hearth]

wiping to the last mechanic is so crazy

[rain geode]

Then I got nothing

[rapid whale]

you got what you deserve

[rain geode]

Had my m10s reclear last week almost wipe the last mechanic

[low hearth]

dang i aint even know i was in a c42

dry gotta dip

https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-around-nervous-licking-lips-looking-left-and-right-gif-94744654549153706

[rapid whale]

wtf

people misrepresenting c41 should be reportable

wasting ppls time

[low hearth]

c42 disguised as duty complete weekly reward 🥀

[versed venture]

i need ffxiv friends that actually do content.. like a static or something..

[rain geode]

I just assume every party is actually a c4x

[rapid whale]

c4me

[tulip anvil]

im gonna be honest

fake reclears arent the worst thing in the world

ive been in those kinds of parties where the person who needs the clear does better than the other people who join

and i dont blame them for doing it because the people who join clear parties are significantly worse

a clear party might aswell be a midway progression point party with the people who join them

[scarlet lintel]

ok

im gonna do my reclears on server reset from now on

only took 3 hours

compared to getting stuck last week in 11 and not being able to finish last week

at leats i got the mount this week

[tulip anvil]

car

[low hearth]

damn

[echo ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-walter-heisenberg-crawl-space-gif-19584363

[low hearth]

710 is kinda crazy

[versed kayak]

it's a i670 dungeon so it's not that terrible I guess, it's just crafted at the time it came out

[low hearth]

oh

[versed kayak]

it drops 690 gear too, so they're above that as well

[wicked delta]

This late into the expac is kinda lol lmao ngl

I guess bro just came back or something

[rain geode]

Could be new?

[echo ibex]

Yeah they are new but

Still pain

[wicked delta]

Yoyo in his whm era

[versed kayak]

that looks like they're just not pressing buttons tbh

[wicked delta]

Not the healkitten icant

[alpine plover]

what the heck strayborough

can you even get that in expert

[echo ibex]

I was just bored

[wicked delta]

Lvl cap I think?

[echo ibex]

Change of peace for once

[alpine plover]

isee

[echo ibex]

And the other ones are 750

[rain geode]

Well my body isnt going to let me sleep it seems maybe Ill just try and get my reclears done

oh Im not on aether that would explain why there are actually no PFss

[rapid whale]

gg

[rain geode]

no healers open rip maybe Ill try and actually sleep then

[echo ibex]

We all know healers ain't real

[random needle]

I at least got my m9 clear early

m10... I had a healer die to knockback during arena split. And then I died to damage because no one healed me. And then the other healer didn't LB in spite of two people being dead before IA2

[zealous meteor]

sorry i don't have lb on my hotbar

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-angry-choke-shake-gif-21866480

[low hearth]

mb

[random needle]

And this was after two previous wipes from a healer dying to flame floater and the other healer getting dotted, and dying to damage in snaking

[rain geode]

Y'know as unlucky as my PFing has been Im glad Ive been fairly lucky with drops

[low hearth]

m12s time

[rain geode]

I won necklace today so w/ book Im not full left side bis

*right

[random needle]

I've had poor luck unfortunately

Hopefully I can get m10 done tonight at least

I cannot let myself get stuck in there the full week again

[echo ibex]

Dude

[rain geode]

Yeah I should hop into a M10S party but Im a bit tired, probably not actually tired enough to be unable to clear but tired enough to spike my performance anxiety

[random needle]

I could have maybe cleared but I wanted to hang out with my cat more before work

[low hearth]

never let the opps win

[rain geode]

Dude the opps are dominating ngl

[random needle]

The opps might be winning with this one I'm ngl

[low hearth]

everything burns...

[zealous meteor]

hanging out with yourself?

[low hearth]

Alas, the battle isn't over yet... But don't despair, Champion!

👊

[finite plank]

stray = 730

stray and that ronka thing = 730

the thing with a reskinned proto carb + that calyx dungeon = 760

alexandria's the only 700 ilvl

[random needle]

Tender Valley is the not-Ronka one

[finite plank]

oh, meso terminal's also 760

so.. being 710 in stray kind of sucks but not the worse thing

but still kind of sucks

[finite plank]

im not sure why you'd call it a 670 dungeon, the thing on the duty list is very stupidly under for what it should be

[zealous meteor]

it needs at least ilvl 670

if you have that you can clear the dungeon

[finite plank]

grossly under things that should've been 710 and such

[queen raft]

For meso terminal?

[zealous meteor]

strayborough deadwalk

the dungeon we've been talking about

[queen raft]

Oh

[zealous meteor]

[finite plank]

if you went in at 670 into meso terminal

a raidwide will kill you

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wtf-wtf-cat-shocked-shocked-cat-gif-16097802352571672167

[queen raft]

I don't think you can even join meso terminal at IL 670

[zealous meteor]

only in a preformed party

[queen raft]

Oh

[low hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1369149308154417226/1381867580997767168/asda.avif

somebody had to take their kids to school

[echo ibex]

I just cleared m9 with like

3 global dds

lol

And not even close to enrage it was after pizza slices

Didn't wanna but let me upload it lmao

[alpine plover]

you're just too good

[random needle]

Yeah, I had someone (pretty sure it was a melee) slap everybody with a ddown in aetherletting

[alpine plover]

show the log tho

[echo ibex]

I also ate 2 dds during bat chains

and during last pizza slices cuz lb3ed

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/a36Fr9R1ADjXkhbK?fight=last&type=damage-done

[low hearth]

mb

cant drop uptime

[random needle]

Then play Viper

Okay, surely tonight I can get a party that can do m10s without cocking up

[alpine plover]

this is some pretty goated uptime tho

[random needle]

No one was logging my m9 clear that I can see

I have got to stop procrastinating getting uploading set up

[echo ibex]

I'll take the compliment

[low hearth]

it’s ez

[dull drum]

if you’re lazy you can just set it to live log 24/7

[alpine plover]

or just install inact

upload logs later

[echo ibex]

Can you make it so it stops logging sometime

Don't like that it logs literally everything 24/7

[novel garden]

For fflogs when u go to upload a log there is a toggle where it allows u to pick what fights u want uploaded as for intact idk

[alpine plover]

inact just creates the text file and you can upload it later with the app

it's in dalamud

[low hearth]

Or just have act open yea

[alpine plover]

personally i dont use act cuz i was too lazy to set it up and it laged my frontlines

[random needle]

I have ACT because I like seeing numbers

[alpine plover]

inact is easier in a sense. but ofc you still need the app downloaded

to actually upload the logs

[zealous meteor]

i like seeing numbers until i try duty roulette

[random needle]

I love being top DPS as a MCH, Charlie! I LOVE BEING TOP DPS!!!

[dapper zealot]

Does inact have that annoying security prompt?

[alpine plover]

inact is just a dalamud plugin

not sure which security prompt you mean but i'll say... no?

[dapper zealot]

Swapping immediately

The prompt is getting annoying

Since you run it as admin there's also this security prompt

[alpine plover]

Iseee

Yea it's just like a plugin for me

[novel garden]

Speaking of prompts I keep getting a "windows has blocked a file" for dalamud I wasn't getting them and now all of a sudden it's been a thing after the most recent windows update..

[echo ibex]

Cleaning up

That's funny

[sly basin]

i have mine set to auto delete after like 5 days

i think u set that up in fflogs uploader

[dull drum]

this game is fucking shit

[mossy eagle]

So true bestie

Unsub

Be free

[sly basin]

open up Overwatch 2

[jagged aspen]

another week another disappointment

[low hearth]

[mossy eagle]

Congrats on reaching BiS in week 40 when you get enough books

[random needle]

It's starting to feel like that might be where I end up at

[zealous meteor]

spinny

[random needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1212468760376778834/1302517989228413018/pantohkrator.gif

[jolly flume]

4 book twine

why is it not 3

[random needle]

Hopefully I can at least get a drop from m10 this week

... but unfortunately, it looks like there's only a 1/3 chance of that

(assuming that everyone Needs on the pieces I need, I have a 1/8 chance of getting any individual piece, and winning/losing a piece doesn't affect my odds on the others)

[mossy eagle]

Hi poor

[stray forge]

Hi poor

[worn bluff]

more tyranny time for you

[random needle]

I want tyranny time at this point

I'm getting sick of m10 😭

[jolly flume]

he looks even more tyrannical than before!

[stray forge]

You’re crazy

Tyranny time is by far the most evil thing I’ve encountered in this game

Shit has me playing other games again

[random needle]

Look, I make mistakes in 9 and 10, same as anyone else does, it happens

But I keep seeing wipe after wipe to the stupidest things and it's driving me mad because there's genuinely nothing I can do

[stray forge]

What do you think tyranny time will be like

[random needle]

Tyranny time is at least a real mechanic

Alley oop combo is not a real mechanic, but people still die to damage

[jolly flume]

I love tyranny time

wish it was always tyranny time

[stray forge]

It can be

Just queue up with me

[random needle]

It's weird that I almost like it more when I do have a significant chance of being the person who causes a wipe, because then I feel sympathetic when other people mess up sometimes

[stray forge]

Idk I’m at the point where I only cause wipes if I giga greed

You will reach that point too

[random needle]

That's where I'm at in 10, except I'm Hydaelyn's most safest gamer

[amber fable]

had the most crazy m10 kill today...,half party died but we somehow killed before pyrorotation

heal lb3 came in clutch at end

[remote gate]

gear saves the run as usual

[random needle]

I kill the beach boys tonight

Then I can focus on m11 prog like I should have done last week

[amber fable]

i am at ecliptic and at this point its basically a clear party angle

thinking I should make duty complete....

[jolly flume]

you skipped where you wipe to ecliptic on repeat for a week

[remote gate]

is that part of the prog experience

[random needle]

Has fixed ecliptic become PF standard yet, or are they still on toxic ecliptic

[jolly flume]

so I've been told

[stray forge]

It’s been fixed for a while

[random needle]

Uuhhhhh I'm trying to think how far I got in my one prog lockout

I think I saw to Orbital Omen?

[amber fable]

meteor rain is free

[finite plank]

this week, i 1 shot everything except m10s

[amber fable]

i would have cleared m10 like 6 pulls earlier had I not inted at end

[low hearth]

Yo ! @jolly flume

[stray forge]

Yo

[low hearth]

How does m12sp1 parsing work?

Like faster kill time = better parse?

[stray forge]

Any kill closer to your last 2m use is pretty much better parse for every boss

[low hearth]

Oh

[finite plank]

cleared m12s p2 in 1 shot at the cost of everyone getting a dd...

and a healer lb3...

saw enrage cast, that's about it

i caused the healer lb3 incident

probably

but most likely

[random needle]

Clear's a clear

[rapid whale]

good god i am getting old

slept funny and now it even hurts to breathe

[jolly flume]

ideally you'd push to 6:30

[finite plank]

lumbago

[worn bluff]

for 1 min adps jobs would a shorter kt after an odd minute burst technically be better than a sandbag to the next 2 min?

[rapid whale]

for p1 specifically? i'd say no just because you are getting further away from a potted 2min

[worn bluff]

nah just in general

i don’t parse but curious how it works for the funny rdps number

like 7:30 vs 8:30

[jolly flume]

depends on pot timings, 6:30 with 0-6 pots would be better than 8:30 if you're a true 1m job without resources to pool

like intuitively if you're getting the same amount of pots you want to maximize the pot uptime in the encounter

you do that by killing as close to your last pot as you can

[worn bluff]

my PFs still see phase 1 enrage cast so i’m using wol’s -4 FoF opener. i think it griefs other people’s rdps a little but more overall damage

[rapid whale]

might b worse for parse but more dmg opener also lets you have an oopsie or two and be fine

margin for error na ll that

[jolly flume]

it doesn't have to be that much worse if people are sending 1st gcd buffs anyways

just open fof with your filler and confiteor later

long as valor isn't your last gcd in the window you should still land everything and you'll catch buffs with your biggest hits

[zealous meteor]

unlocking flight on an alt is such a pain

[jolly flume]

my alt can't do hunt trains to this day

[zealous meteor]

why does it take so long

[jolly flume]

nor will it ever be able to

cuz I ain't doing that

[worn bluff]

yeah basically all the high potency stuff is in raid buffs anyways. maybe later on i don't really keep as much track over making sure atonement stuff is fitting into party buff at the end vs filler

i guess i should prioritize lower potency in the beginning of my FoF for every 2 min window

[worn bluff]

well... it's worse for other people's parse rdps gaming

[jolly flume]

that sounds like not your problem

[worn bluff]

i don't think i've gotten off a full blade combo at the end though. and can't imperator any earlier

it dies a little bit too soon usually

[random needle]

... I wonder why their party isn't filling.

[stray forge]

cause its on Lich

[random needle]

Probably both that and sounding like a downright pleasant person to raid with

Also, why so insistent on taking R1 for m9s? You do everything basically exactly the same except slightly different positioning for two mechanics

[spice path]

They've probably been told r1 is phys spot. But in 9 it doesn't matter anyways so like ???

[random needle]

They're an RDM though

[spice path]

Yeah

[terse zodiac]

Some people just cannot adjust horizontally

[random needle]

Like, yeah, R1 is usually pranged and r2 is usually caster (with some exceptions based on the fight, like TOP), but m9 is really easy to adjust for

[spice path]

And they said r1 is taken. So some phys who can't adjust either probably was yelling at them lol

[rapid whale]

????

[terse zodiac]

Go ???? yourself i want my northwest pixels to stand on

[loud swift]

you could definitely just discuss with your other ranger before hand

but you know telling people to go fuck themselves is obviously the smarter move

[terse zodiac]

Ngl ive never seen a group of people more maladapted to social interaction than ff players but ig its common in any gaming space

[spice path]

People in ffxiv PF being reasonable is hard.

[jolly flume]

ff is definitely worse than any other game I've played

D2 still has the most literal criminals playing it though

[terse zodiac]

D2 yikes

[jolly flume]

you know it's bad when a game has a whole website dedicated to the sex offenders that play it

[spice path]

Tho honestly its not that toxic (ffxiv) Even wow isn't. Surprisingly. I've seen a million times worse in Throne and Libery and Aion. Those pvp games people get TOXIC.

[rain geode]

I mean yeah PVP is almost always gonna be more toxic then anything PVM

[terse zodiac]

I dont even mean toxicity just people who have no clue how to communicate with others

[rain geode]

Uh XIV has been about average in terms of that for me

[zealous meteor]

retvrn to single player games

can't be toxic in those

[rain geode]

that is to say piss poor gamers not being known for their social skills

[jolly flume]

absolutely can

you should hear the words that come out of my mouth when I let a legendary fish slip in stardew

[zealous meteor]

good luck being toxic in cities skylines

[terse zodiac]

Im toxic to myself and npcs in ff tactics

[rain geode]

The amount of Dark Souls fans who will tell you your playing the game wrong is certainly hilarous

[warped gate]

Hi sorry incompatible astrology signs ur booted from the party!!

[spice path]

Like 99% of people in this game are neurodivergent. But some take it to an extreme and have literally no communication or thinking skill. Yet they still try to do high end.

[jolly flume]

people are just so fragile

im not saying you should be ok with getting called slurs in a cod lobby

but god damn can you at least take straightforward criticism without crying about it

[warped gate]

constructive criticism and ffxiv players dont go well together

[loud swift]

ITS SO FUNNY

[terse zodiac]

People that report for just giving advice is funny

[loud swift]

oh you used magic in your darksouls playthrough? you suck and never should play an actionrpg game again

[warped gate]

wdym u didnt no hit run no armor the whole game

[lapis token]

Being ND myself, I think the biggest thing I can appreciate is being given blunt direct advice/criticism if I'm screwing up lol

[zealous meteor]

yeah. if someone starts spouting slurs because i played badly ill report them. but if they just go "hey you played like ass" i'll thank them lmao

[lapis token]

ya

[stray forge]

I got called so many slurs in Overwatch

[vestal hollow]

i love saying slurs

mb

[loud swift]

oh

ok

[jolly flume]

pull me over for a dui the way I'm slurring out

[zealous meteor]

listen as long as you're saying the slurs in private to people who don't mind
go ahead

[terse zodiac]

i think you gotta add a bit there 😭

a group of homophobes throwing around slurs isn't exactly fine even in private

[lapis token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/631796832971915275/1382585754743603221/Messenger_creation_00B82917-72D5-4C58-BF02-1F34AF927A8C.gif

[vast jacinth]

but in private you wouldnt know no?

[worn bluff]

like the prange who ragequit our phase 2 party 10 minutes in because someone gave them a tip on the first mechanic "i wanted to be blind i'm leaving"

(it was not a blind party)

[terse zodiac]

you wouldn't know but its still like bad?

why would you expect blind if you don't join a blind

[zealous meteor]

ok yeah probably

[jolly flume]

listen as long as you're not annoying as fuck I couldn't care less if you're a trans lesbian beaver from mars

[tawdry delta]

Trying to blind prog the last floor in pf week 4

[kind elm]

this is very apache attack helicopter coded

[worn bluff]

this was after they griefed for an hour to get to phase 2

[kind elm]

i fear

[worn bluff]

like we basically had to drag their corpse into phase 2

[jolly flume]

yeah nvm I'm changing my mind

you just made me transphobic

[warped gate]

i dont like to point fingers but

almost everyone ive had a problem w in pf is

[kind elm]

[warped gate]

a lalafell

[terse zodiac]

naw thats crazy

[zealous meteor]

ok time to fanta to malera, mr manly man

[jolly flume]

what the

just tell me to hang myself

[zealous meteor]

i mean if you're transphobic that can be arranged

[vestal hollow]

racism is a moral good in pf

[warped gate]

i dont bash on what ppl have been thru

but

45 year old men with the emotional maturity of tumblr teenage girls

and playing lala

combo of doom

[kind elm]

do they know

[jolly flume]

the 45 y/o men playing lala are usually some sort of criminal

[stray forge]

Im anatidaephobic

[jolly flume]

never trust a lala with facial hair

[vestal hollow]

i dont think they do

[zealous meteor]

im a 24 year old trans girl* playing lala
am i safe

[jolly flume]

no

you were fine up until the playing lala part

[zealous meteor]

damn chiyo transphobic arc

[vestal hollow]

in fox years that makes you elderly

[zealous meteor]

oh nvm

[stray forge]

I’m a 73 year old cis woman playing a busty viera maid

[terse zodiac]

rest in peace mr happy (not 45 but still)

[warped gate]

live ur best life queen

[zealous meteor]

damn chiyo popotophobic arc

[jolly flume]

[warped gate]

as long as you dont argue with your wife on mic while were progging TEA

[vestal hollow]

i highkirksixsevenuinely need to get out of bed

[jolly flume]

why leave bed

bed comfy

bed warm

outside cold and despairge

[kind elm]

this is why i study linguistics

[zealous meteor]

please stop using words that are not in the bible or ffxiv

[jolly flume]

we carry the flame

[tall ore]

I’m sure six seven is in the bible at some point

[kind elm]

mark 6:7

[tall ore]

Real

[vestal hollow]

I am not in the bible either.

[warped gate]

you might be

[jolly flume]

holy shit

[stray forge]

@jolly flume time to adopt

[jolly flume]

the twelve

ffxiv reference

[kind elm]

its meant to be

[jolly flume]

god I wish

I want a cat

[warped gate]

what are impure spirits

[jolly flume]

and a samoyed

[stray forge]

Samoyeds are so dumb

At least the ones I’ve met

[vestal hollow]

highkirksixsevenuinely no skibidicap

[jolly flume]

theyre cute dumb

[stray forge]

Absolute clowns

[jolly flume]

so much pretty privilege

[stray forge]

But a Samoyed in the city is psychopath activities

Off to the suburbs with you

[jolly flume]

I don't wanna live here

[vestal hollow]

do i implant this in nova now too

just to torture you

[kind elm]

i think she has an active hatred of lowkirkenuinely so good luck

[stray forge]

Damn I’m a city gal I don’t wanna leave

[jolly flume]

I would like to live in a city

just not one that's this fucking expensive

[stray forge]

Everywhere is expensive

[jolly flume]

and honestly I could survive anywhere with an asian grocery store and an internet connection

[stray forge]

Might as well live in a place that also gives good purchasing power comparative to other locations

[jolly flume]

we'll see how the job hunt goes in a few months I guess

I've been thinking about spending a few years abroad though

[stray forge]

They won’t let u back in

Rip

[jolly flume]

that's cool with me

I can't say what I wanna say about this country here but you probably get the idea

[stray forge]

[wicked delta]

The concerning part is being 45 years old

[stray forge]

tobias after experiencing twink death

[warped gate]

EVERYWHERE IS EXPENSIVE 💔

[wicked delta]

Im not living past 30 I wont experience that shit

[warped gate]

40 for me

[random needle]

I'm living forever, whether I want to or not

[wicked delta]

Me seeing my uncle get up without complaining about hip pain

Honestly I know an old person has gotten up from the chair when I hear a loud ass groan out of nowhere

[jolly flume]

dude even I do that shit when I'm like

standing up from a crouching position

[loud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/grampa-simpson-gif-19674842

[sinful brook]

Okay but that's also a problem from being 7ft3

So just don't be old or tall or both

[warped gate]

are you 7 ft 3 in

[sinful brook]

No chiyo is

[jolly flume]

😭

[wicked delta]

You’re not old enough to be doing allat

😭

[stray forge]

I dont even do that and im older than u

go do exercise smh

[warped gate]

oldhead over here

[loud nymph]

really glad I'm the shortest one in my family at 5'11"

[stray forge]

yeah what of it whippersnapper

[warped gate]

[stray forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/granny-samurai-prank

[warped gate]

naptime soon

oldhead

[wicked delta]

I guess im just lucky… I barely have these sorta issues anyway

Exercises ARE good for you

[warped gate]

cardio for 45 minutes and 2 White Monsters

[wicked delta]

Monster isnt even that good

[stray forge]

stop drinking piss water

thanks

[warped gate]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-on-beach-white-monster-white-monster-ultra-energy-drink-beach-beach-water-gif-5366754054609105058

[stray forge]

They ran out of ppl to advertise to so they started advertising to femboys 🥀

[wicked delta]

I remember a girl who used to make drinking monster her whole personality and then she had a heart attack so as far as I know she doesn’t drink that shit anymore

[warped gate]

LMAO

[warped gate]

well its called moderation

[loud nymph]

I had a girlfriend some years ago who did the same with five hour energy

[kind elm]

mb

[warped gate]

five hour energy lowkey just battery acid

[loud nymph]

I drank one of those once and thought my heart was going to explode

[jolly flume]

dont trans ppl basically own white monster now

[wicked delta]

I call it natural selection

[loud nymph]

never again

[random needle]

I've never once had a Monster and I think I'm better off for it

[kind elm]

get out of my pants bro

[jolly flume]

I had a trans friend from d2 that told me white monster is like the official drink of trans girls

[random needle]

The Kyles all became Karens I fear

[stray forge]

No majority drink tea

[warped gate]

femboys and sports bikers is what they advertise to

[kind elm]

i dont think you have the scientific data to back that claim

[stray forge]

Monster is like online thing from my exp

[warped gate]

u should try white monster one day

[stray forge]

Don’t do it

[warped gate]

dont listen to the hater

[wicked delta]

I miss my fried rice

[zealous meteor]

marce?

[wicked delta]

I need to make more

[jolly flume]

it's pretty good relative to the other monster flavors

[warped gate]

mogu mogu

[wicked delta]

Well this was a pasty white girl so definitely not

[stray forge]

Who the hell is marce

[zealous meteor]

what the hell

[warped gate]

that gets a fish reaction

[stray forge]

Fish

[zealous meteor]

[wicked delta]

I got nothing to do

Its either make dinner or draw yaoi

Leaning towards the yaoi

[jolly flume]

draw boobs

[kind elm]

can i watch

[worn bluff]

starving yourself just to draw yaoi

dedication

[wicked delta]

I love gay men kissing

[warped gate]

Hi coincidentally the richest CEO in the country is walking by u and Falls in love with u and then he hides it from you

[wicked delta]

I went to bed at 4 am cus I was doing that man

[wicked delta]

Then I poison him when he puts me in his will and I get to spend all his money

[warped gate]

and then his 14 evil siblings kill you

[wicked delta]

Fine by me I got to experience the billionaire life

[stray forge]

Yaoi?

[warped gate]

stupid ass plots

[jolly flume]

...

[stray forge]

…

[wicked delta]

I dont want to think about the omegaverse

[stray forge]

What’s omegaverse

[jolly flume]

you cannot be posting that and not know what the omegaverse is

stop the cap

[stray forge]

What’s omegaverse 😭

[jolly flume]

if you don't know you're better off not knowing

[wicked delta]

Im not explaining that shit

[jolly flume]

believe me

[stray forge]

Why does everyone else know what it is

[warped gate]

idk what it is either dw

[stray forge]

I thought it was just a type of yaoi

[warped gate]

probably the universe all of the yaoi is in combined

[kind elm]

this is why ur not an omega

[jolly flume]

im an alpha (legend)

[zealous meteor]

^ what an omega would say

[stray forge]

Omega isn’t that a FF enemy

[zealous meteor]

omega is an alpha if anything

[stray forge]

I thought I fought it in those alliance raids

[wicked delta]

[stray forge]

Oh it’s just abo

Then I do know what it is

The origin of mpreg….

[warped gate]

wow

[stray forge]

No relation to abg

[warped gate]

what is abg

[wicked delta]

What the fuck is that

No

Dont tell me

[warped gate]

LOL

[wicked delta]

I dont to know actually

[jolly flume]

asian babygirl

[versed kayak]

That'd be odd

[warped gate]

well ik that one

[wicked delta]

STOP

[warped gate]

but

[jolly flume]

what

[warped gate]

surely theres another meaning

[jolly flume]

that's so much more tame than abo

[wicked delta]

Dont tell me anything

[stray forge]

I get called an abg like once a week

[warped gate]

ok grandma

[stray forge]

God forbid a girl gets a few tattoos

[warped gate]

wait

wtf is abo

[wicked delta]

Stop

We are not

Discussing this

[jolly flume]

alpha beta omega

[wicked delta]

[jolly flume]

[wicked delta]

SHUT UP CHIYO

[jolly flume]

google it if you want brain cancer

[warped gate]

fanfic community is something

[wicked delta]

I remember Bapple pinging me out of nowhere to ask about it…

🥀

Yknow how fucking weird it is to explain that shit to someone who is like 30+

[stray forge]

inviting a girl over to watch eva

[wicked delta]

Okay I actually need to get off my ass and make dinner

[stray forge]

No this is the worst time for awkward silence

[warped gate]

good job

[wicked delta]

I hate making dinner

I wish it just spawned in

[dull drum]

unc people moment

[warped gate]

i just ate breakfast

[dull drum]

🥀

me having to explain aura

[wicked delta]

I doubt you know what Omegaverse is either Stella

[dull drum]

i dont

[wicked delta]

Keep it that way

[wicked delta]

My niece explained to me what 67 meant

I was like

Oh god

Im actually unc now…

[jolly flume]

it doesnt even mean anything

[finite plank]

whats 67

all i know is fortnite did it

[loud nymph]

The number before 68

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-six-seve-67-gif-14143337669032958349

[stray forge]

Your age group is the one who first started lowering the age requirements to be an unc/auntie

Now ur suffering the consequences

[terse zodiac]

why am i joining a m9s lootmaster group that cannot do static aetherletting

literally 0 braincell mechanic

[random needle]

"muh uptime" - person who cannot walk on a straight line

[wicked delta]

?

But like

How

[terse zodiac]

they also couldn't kill flails or doornail

pf is just its always been a nightmare but its fallen so much further

[loud nymph]

bad players get on lootmaster parties like flies on shit

[terse zodiac]

true its bc awful players always get the loot so they join lootmaster earlier

[worn bluff]

i've never had a M9S PF that could do the fight cleanly

[daring pine]

me neither

i’ve gotten no loot the past 3 weeks lmao

[random needle]

I know that statistically it's kinda expected that I won't get any loot, but it still feels bad

[queen raft]

Why are we limited to just two heavyweight totem things a week?

[loud nymph]

you're not, you're limited to 4 a week

one from each fight

[queen raft]

Oh

But why limit them?

[loud nymph]

because that's how you artificially elongate content lifespan to maintain subscribers in a subscription based live service game

[clear plume]

So crafted gear has more of a reason to exist

[worn bluff]

i guess they still want an economy where crafted gear is worth more in the beginning

[queen raft]

Rip

[worn bluff]

i think normal raid gear often has worse stats anyways

but technically you could use it to prog earlier floors

[random needle]

It doesn't have as many meld slots as crafted

[clear plume]

It has functionally the same stats but no overmelds

[worn bluff]

oic

i thought it had different substats per slot but i haven't looked in a while

[loud nymph]

it does, but the difference in stats between a crafted piece and a normal raid piece of the same ilvl is

fairly small

[terse zodiac]

standing on a line is really hard

[loud nymph]

even if you're in a situation where the crafted has piety and the normal raid piece doesn't

[worn bluff]

yeah i guess it's usable in m9-10

i probably wouldn't try to clear 11 in full normal raid gear

[loud nymph]

it's a gain, it's a measurable gain, but it's not "oh we weren't going to clear and then I equipped my normal raid piece and now we will"

[dull drum]

make people come back every week

[mossy eagle]

If people could farm everything immediately the tier would end quite quickly

Of course, SE takes it way too far in the other direction and doesn't unlock shit for like half a year

[random needle]

If people could farm 790 bis in week 1, they absolutely would

[stray forge]

how long is it going to take me to do these UwUwa events @jolly flume

[worn bluff]

i’d rather they just went straight to books and lowered the cost, but that doesn’t work as well for statics/racers

rolling for loot against randoms feels pretty unrewarding most of the time

[stray forge]

I havent won loot since week 1

[terse zodiac]

that would be really boring imo

[random needle]

If you're lucky, it's great

But if not (and most people statistically aren't), it does burn a lot

[terse zodiac]

loot system as it is is already super forgiving and kinda free to gear up

[worn bluff]

i mean RNG gambling can add excitement sure but if you have two tiers of winning almost no loot you might feel differently

at that point just give me boring idc

[terse zodiac]

i go every tier with really bad rolls pretty much, only tiers that make it really upsetting is when you need 3 twine because otherwise you finish pretty fast no matter what

[jolly flume]

idk which ones

the major patch events always take a while

[worn bluff]

idk if you win no loot from 3rd floor and you need one piece plus 2 twine that’s still what 3.5 months of reclears?

[jolly flume]

12 weeks lol

[terse zodiac]

not if you spend your 4 books

[jolly flume]

you'd have to convert your books yeah

which is cringe

[dull drum]

but also what if you had horrid luck with m12s

[terse zodiac]

what else would you use them for? other job weapons?

[dull drum]

then like lol

[jolly flume]

yeah

[dull drum]

you’re cooked

[jolly flume]

I play way too many jobs

[terse zodiac]

fair

[dull drum]

same

[jolly flume]

I did still convert one for a glaze this tier just so I could double tome ring earlier

[remote gate]

war and whm not being exact wouldn't cause problems would it?

[jolly flume]

so many problems would be solved if you could just open a raid coffer and choose between the savage and aug tome pieces

[worn bluff]

on top of a bunch of 3rd floors not being that fun to reclear

if it was m10 i wouldn’t mind as much

[dull drum]

game making me grind 450 tomes a week is pretty egregious

[stray forge]

The literal entire patch

[dull drum]

arguably worse than reclears depending on how many jobs you play

[stray forge]

I haven’t played at all

Can I finish before next patch drops 🙂

If I start in

4 hours

[jolly flume]

yeah good luck

[warped gate]

deep dungeon

[stray forge]

Teehee

[jolly flume]

skip the card game

thats only like 400 astrite and takes. years

[dull drum]

bro that shits goated tf

[jolly flume]

ngl

the first iteration was more fun

this time they really said "yeah we're gonna give EVERY OPPONENT the domain effect that just completely removes the reconstruction mechanic from the game"

shit sucks

[stray forge]

It’s easy

[jolly flume]

can you still win easily every time? yeah

is it shit? also yeah

[stray forge]

I just afk win

[dull drum]

dw i have experience with shit card games

shits the norm to me

[jolly flume]

like

if anything it's easier to win than the original

[stray forge]

Me when genius invokation tcg

[jolly flume]

it just feels way less fun

[stray forge]

Male rover 🥀

[jolly flume]

female rover has no aura

[dull drum]

fr

[stray forge]

Male Rover has no thighs

[jolly flume]

I don't need thighs from him

I have cantarella

[stray forge]

Pulled cantaloupe

🥀

[jolly flume]

yeah my phrolova team is s3

I'm a meta slave

[dull drum]

im an aero defender

still using my ancient ass team

[stray forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1223361556583157810/1312808755594792970/giphy_1.gif

[clear plume]

That’s the second most boring kind of slave to be

[jolly flume]

I already s6r5'd my wuwa wife

[stray forge]

I am one of five people who pulled mamma mia

[jolly flume]

what else is there left to do besides pull for meta

[terse zodiac]

gd you wouldn't believe this is pf

[stray forge]

I would

It’s bc 3 ppl play rpr mch and warrior

I am one of those 3 that play rpr and I gray parse so I boost this persons stats

[terse zodiac]

i kinda miss reaper

especially now that they fixed the awful reawaken timer

sorry enshroud : ) viper and reaper are the same job you understand

[worn bluff]

wdym fixed

oh i didn't even realize they changed it

[craggy marsh]

I like reaper but deaths design is a weird gimmick

[worn bluff]

i skipped last tier

[low hearth]

Yo !

[rapid whale]

Did you win weapon

[midnight furnace]

Im trying to play some Rpr now too

Cause the Relic latest stage looks really cool

I like the Job, cause its not really as fast as Vpr but its also fast

So it doesnt get as fucked on a PS5 in South America connection

[stray forge]

Is it fast

It feels slow

☠️

[random needle]

In my mind, the Maiming melees are the slower ones

[terse zodiac]

they are fast in burst

slow outside

but fast in burst is almost every job

[rapid whale]

not picto 😄

[terse zodiac]

blm doesn't even have a burst but why do i suspect 8.0 will change that

[jolly flume]

you're gonna cast fire 5 in buffs as a proc from leylines and yo'ure gonna like it

[shy obsidian]

XENOGLOSSY SPAM

XENOGLOSSY SPAM

[terse zodiac]

pretty much and amplifier will turn 1 xenoglossy into superxenoglossy

[shy obsidian]

so for black mage, do I only really have to worry about fitting Xenoglossy into that window?

[terse zodiac]

pretty much but also just have good uptime and it doesn't matter what your burst looks like

[torn mesa]

aim to dump as many in buffs as possible

using it for movement takes priority, but in many many cases, you could've moved with something else instead

[terse zodiac]

ofc it also depends how many buffs you have, damage gain from one 5% buff is really negligible, pretty sure less than swiftcasting a blizzard 3 in ice 1

[shy obsidian]

that doesn't sound too bad... as long as it's only one Superxenoglossy and not like. two or three

[stray forge]

I'll gloss ur face

[terse zodiac]

it would be really boring of an upgrade i hope they do more than just give it a burst button

[rapid whale]

for free??

[random needle]

It fills me with such joy when I can drop like 4 Fouls onto both bros in m10

That fight is surprisingly fun to try and max out damage optimization for

[terse zodiac]

true and factual

[rapid whale]

yea i think this tier does a good job of, "simple enough for people to clear doing the basics but tons of room for optimization"

[jolly flume]

where are the people who can do the basics

are they in the room with us

[worn bluff]

RPR feels slow to me

[stray forge]

It is slow

[worn bluff]

big chonky filler GCDs

[dull drum]

i have no idea what im doing on tank

[random needle]

Though, I don't really like that the way my rotation lines up in the first two phases, the best way for me to use my Manafont feels like it's doing a single target flare flare flarestar just before the bros combo ult

[worn bluff]

your 1 in 123 does 420 potency

[torn mesa]

this tier's check might actually be a bit on the tight end if it wasn't for the extra 2 weeks of tomes

[random needle]

Considering what my experience in 9 and 10 has been like, I'm sure it's quite tight for PF in 11 and 12

[worn bluff]

it's funny seeing a RPR have to disengage this tier after using gluttony

because they can't use any GCD

they just have to sit there and cry

[torn mesa]

well... that might be generous still, given that the rest of DT's content is well

as lenient as it is

[stray forge]

Worst feeling in the world

[random needle]

I guess we'll see how the ult ends up panning out

[jolly flume]

11 would actually have been clean or die

[random needle]

Ask your static to do reclears mine

... Actually I guess you don't have echo anyways, but does raid finder still let you turn on min ilvl?

[rapid whale]

Implying I didn't mulch my penta gear

[worn bluff]

everyone take off one piece of gear

[torn mesa]

our group's damage compared to other W1 groups

is probably very close to the proverbial average

so I agree

[worn bluff]

no pants challenge

[valid solar]

is 11's dps check higher than 12's like in the first tier third/4th floor ?

[jolly flume]

numerically no the doorboss requires more dps

but in practice doorboss is like

literally a striking dummy

and there's also so many fewer opportunities to eat a DD or something

[valid solar]

I see

[stray forge]

why is it called door boss

I thought the first boss of the tier would be called door boss

[valid solar]

door boss is any boss with a checkpoint

[terse zodiac]

because even tho you kill it you get no loot, it just opens the door to the "real" boss

[random needle]

Yeah basically

[low hearth]

m12p1 lowkey free now ngl

if people arent drooling

[rapid whale]

esp with uptime

[worn bluff]

12-1 is the comfiest fight of the tier to me

just hit da boss

[rapid whale]

we had 7 deaths and killed before final raid wide

on alt reclear

all dps gray parse

[low hearth]

wtf

[rapid whale]

uptime strat actually so much better

[low hearth]

like phase 2

[wicked delta]

how much should i be doing on drk

like 30k?

[rapid whale]

yes p2

[rapid whale]

you wish

i think 25k is the acceptable level for tanks atm

not 100% sure

[low hearth]

yea

like 24-25k+

[valid solar]

30k drk would be doing more damage than pf dps

I think orange drk parse is like 26 ?

26 or 7 not sure

[daring pine]

the tanks i’ve seen in pf are between like 25 and 30k generally

somewhere in there

[random needle]

The SCH in my attempted m10 reclear this morning had 11k rdps

[flint ledge]

My bad

[valid solar]

hey at least it was above 10k

[worn bluff]

rdps? rank 1 DRK is 28K on 12-2

[daring pine]

raaa

[worn bluff]

30k raw DPS is possible yeah

[daring pine]

bungo wish me luck for tonight

split arena prog after work

[vestal hollow]

wallahi you will clear

[daring pine]

actually i might prog tmrw cuz tonight will be 99% reclear pfs

shrug

anyway back to work

[wicked delta]

lol i see

[jolly flume]

everything does more damage than pf dps

[valid solar]

good luck

[wicked delta]

i was doing like 26k but was wondering if that was ok

[stray forge]

What

My tanks do like 24

[rapid whale]

26k raw or rdps

act usually only shows raw

[worn bluff]

i don't think DRK is normally hitting 30k without buff comp and/or bis