Eh raiders can live with it
#endgame-lounge
craggy marsh
craggy marsh
Then let the relic be bis 1 patch later
Let it be bis on the off savage patch
Where the raiders are done raiding
craggy marsh
Relic should be bis on the off savage patch just like how lockout should be lifted on that patch too
fierce matrix
If you take longer than 4 weeks the weapon just is useless if relic is better
craggy marsh
Lockout shouldn't take 7 months to lift
fierce matrix
With it being next patch, that works out cause its normally on the .x5 that the relic step drops if its an actual update to the area
alpine plover
To be fair it would make it better since you dont need to wait forever for your weapon in case you get unlucky and gotta reclear last floor 8 times
fierce matrix
Sometimes its .x1
craggy marsh
why hospital
Treatment for my colon
boreal pumice
is the duty roullete for sand a just the daily or can you spam it?
daring pine
Treatment for my colon
fierce matrix
To be fair it would make it better since you dont need to wait forever for your ...
That just kills the sustainability of the fight then. Thats not even the bad one either
daring pine
how shall i cope /j
fierce matrix
Twines/Shines/Tomes are the dogshit ones
Weapons are like whatever since you get a weapon and a coffer each week
odd beacon
what about extreme
alpine plover
If YOU get it yea
fierce matrix
But brother I need 3 twines and PANTS
odd beacon
i saw that extreme is in it
fierce matrix
THATS 20 BOOKS
odd beacon
i havent gotten the wing so if i can nolife myself
fierce matrix
18 actually my b
odd beacon
might get good progress
fierce matrix
I can count
craggy marsh
I think the real dogshit design is needing to wait until the .8 of the off patch to buy the tome weapon augment with the AR coins
craggy marsh
Why cant you buy the augment right away
fierce matrix
Fuck 8 I need 18
craggy marsh
Why do they make us wait until the .8 
fierce matrix
Why cant you buy the augment right away
Cause they want to keep the weapon as powerful as possible ig
fierce matrix
Ya
odd beacon
relic comes out way before
odd beacon
for .5
craggy marsh
Cause they want to keep the weapon as powerful as possible ig
But it's shit design bc the relic comes out before then and the relic is as good as the tome during those patches
odd beacon
yes
alpine plover
18 actually my b
Yea but the bis you get is omega longtime bis. The weapon bis warranty expires relatively soon on hindsight
fierce matrix
With us getting an OC update the relic step will drop on the .x5
It wont drop way before hand
daring pine
damn
craggy marsh
With us getting an OC update the relic step will drop on the .x5
And the tomestone weapon augment wont be buyable until the .x8
fierce matrix
Yea but the bis you get is omega longtime bis. The weapon bis warranty expires r...
Not really. Its 7 months vs 13 months
fierce matrix
And the tomestone weapon augment wont be buyable until the .x8
Yes, I wasnt saying anything in regards to that
I was just saying it wasnt like WAYYY before hand ya know
odd beacon
ive never bought tome weapon so it doesnt affect me
alpine plover
Not really. Its 7 months vs 13 months
Bis for ultimate too
odd beacon
okay thats a lie i did because in p12s i was the designated tome weapon
alpine plover
For 2 years or smth
fierce matrix
Well tomes should be on the next patch
alpine plover
But anyway, point is last floor has least amount of incentive for reclear
craggy marsh
I just think its silly that the tome left and right can be augmented right away but the weapon needs to wait
fierce matrix
Well
alpine plover
After a point
dapper zealot
bruh I'm so glad I have all the 7.4 legendary mats stocked
odd beacon
i only bought like 2 weapons
alpine plover
Sure ig you can also downgrade
fierce matrix
Thats like
The most important thing to do
It makes getting twines/shines bearable
And even then it sucks ass
With downgrades and full clearing w1 and doing splits i still dont get bis till w6
Like wtf
odd beacon
waiting for someone to report back extreme..
tulip wraith
10 for m9s
torn kindle
M10S gave 11 paste
tulip wraith
so m9-12n probably 5/6/7/8, m9-12s is 10/11/12/13
craggy marsh
With downgrades and full clearing w1 and doing splits i still dont get bis till ...
Tank issue
dapper zealot
NA wtf, why did you pass your ddos onto OCE
craggy marsh
Savage should drop more than that man
shy obsidian
So… how much paste do I need
odd beacon
1200
craggy marsh
Feed the baby
shy obsidian
Oh mah lord
boreal pumice
the void hungers
shy obsidian
How much for Hell on Rails (Extreme)? Might do some mount suffering
boreal pumice
do fates in oc give em or just CE
alpine plover
Spam leveling roulete and hope you get ifrit normal
tulip wraith
CEs - 5
FATEs (urqo mobs and LM boss) - 3
m12n - 8
m9s - 10
m10s - 11
roulettes not daily bonus locked
leveling roulette - 20
expert roulette - 15
my numbers so far
im going to bed now
boreal pumice
is the fates outsides ones or oc
deft yarrow
you know ive been a curious for a bit
the blue executioner in meso terminal
does it actually have more health because its like the tank of the group so it dies last or is it just because its always a ranged that it tethers to
torn kindle
So expert looks like the most spammable method unless Pilgrim gives a lot in the later floors
boreal pumice
man if only my blu was 90 i could go do DT fates
torn kindle
I’m gonna do Level Cap and see how much that gives
boreal pumice
So expert looks like the most spammable method unless Pilgrim gives a lot in the...
il do pt later myself anyway always good to get ya log done and pray on mount drops
deft yarrow
inb4 25 paste to make you suffer through hullbreaker isle
boreal pumice
which one
deft yarrow
(not hard tho Hard version is a little cool)
trim frost
you know ive been a curious for a bit
the blue executioner in meso terminal
does...
don't think so...
i never really bothered to check
my gear is so good anyway that i end up killing my add first as tank loll
craggy marsh
CEs - 5
FATEs (urqo mobs and LM boss) - 3
m12n - 8
m9s - 10
m10s - 11
roulettes ...
Those savage numbers are too low man
valid solar
what are the new relics called 
boreal pumice
btw val what was with the strawberry guy
fierce matrix
Crystal Paste Amounts
Expert = 15
level roulette = 20
level cap roulette = 15
DT fates = 3
OC ce = 5
Ex = ???
Normal = 8
Savage (Different per floor) = 10/11
PT = 10 (per 10 floor)
Quantum = ???
trim frost
i have no idea
fierce matrix
This is what I have
tulip wraith
deft yarrow
actually wait it has to have more hp right because if it didnt then the healer one should be last to die
boreal pumice
pt goated
trim frost
Crystal Paste Amounts
Expert = 15
level roulette = 20
level cap roulette = 15
DT...
forked tower is 0
valid solar
btw val what was with the strawberry guy
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tulip wraith
Crystal Paste Amounts
Expert = 15
level roulette = 20
level cap roulette = 15
DT...
they confirmed FT gives 0
boreal pumice
tbf they did say excluded
tulip wraith
one last test for the road
valid solar
What if quantum gives some nutty amount
10, take it or leave it
daring pine
im too ass at crafting for this 💔
deft yarrow
quantum gets 20 but you have to pay 10 paste to enter
fierce matrix
12s was confirmed to give 18
Its joever chat
A fucking leveling roulettes gives more than savage
daring pine
💔
signal dirge
whats the next step....
deft yarrow
12s was confirmed to give 18
well at least it will be the most optimal method
...in 2045 when were all level 200 or some shit
odd beacon
tbh i guess its like
fierce matrix
whats the next step....
Collecting crystal paste
odd beacon
guaranteed 50 while just doing your reclears
fierce matrix
From multiple instances
odd beacon
since youll be doing reclears anyway
fierce matrix
Oh god
Ik the tech about to be done
So you know how people used to ilvl cheese for Crystal tower
trim frost
savage being low as it is means it's less of a "hey everyone should go do savage!!" and more just to provide a minor bonus to people who are doing savage
fierce matrix
That still exists for leveling roulette
You can ilvl cheese down to ifrit with a 4 stack
And just leave if its not that
trim frost
oh no
fierce matrix
deft yarrow
final relic step should be something really fucking funny
like you only get items if you do a specific shit in a duty
like cleanse doom
or like visit that slave room in satasha
mogdance in moogle mog
craggy marsh
Or erp
deft yarrow
transcibe the entirety of gaius speech
craggy marsh
Tell me for whom do you fight
sleek moon
And just leave if its not that
leaving is only penalty free if you queue for something directly, roulette has a penalty after premades started skipping the dungeons they didnt like back in hw
alpine plover
You can ilvl cheese down to ifrit with a 4 stack
Cant leave cuz u get penalty even with premade
valid solar
alpine plover
And vote abandon is 15 mins
sleek moon
leaving penatly is only like 5 mins though
but at that point might as well clear whatever you're doing
alpine plover
But the idea is still good cuz ifrit and below leveling with a stack takes 7 minutes
boreal pumice
leaving is 30 mins
alpine plover
Or less
tulip wraith
m11n also gives 8
normals seems to be 8 all around
savages are the ones with differing amounts
boreal pumice
yeah same as m12
sleek moon
leaving is 30 mins
no i mean when you are allowed to leave the duty
not penalty after you leave
fierce matrix
Cant leave cuz u get penalty even with premade
Then with limited leveling roulette I believe you can get only like 3 instances
So its basically just gamba and suffer if you dont get it
But tbh I think thatll be the most optimal way unironically
tulip wraith
yeah
rapid whale
chungus af
tulip wraith
100 is just for first part
rapid whale
ouh mah gawd
boreal pumice
240 CEs to finish this whole relic step if you dont wanna leave OC
as much as i dont mind oc that is such a ineffective method only silver lining you can have is the possibilty of getting a accessory from it
shy obsidian
joe car
rain geode
If I was in any rush 1200 would be very annoying
tulip wraith
as much as i dont mind oc that is such a ineffective method only silver lining y...
no paste from fates or pot fates either
thats the real insane part
boreal pumice
im rushing it so i can complain about grinding more things
tulip wraith
they want to make your grind there worse
deft yarrow
i wonder if these are all the duties that apply and some might be added later
boreal pumice
i already got most of my achivements from oc as is beside bnnuy but thats futures me problem
rapid whale
If I was in any rush 1200 would be very annoying
no need to tho
not used for anything just cosmetic
rain geode
no need to tho
yeah thats what I mean
tulip wraith
speaking of do we have the models for all the new weapons yet
im greedy and wanna see
boreal pumice
we knew them awhile ago
tulip wraith
like all? i know we got shown some
finite plank
damn
im not getting the crystal paste during erclears
because i didnt complete the step yet
deft yarrow
is the old model with a new glow right?
boreal pumice
just some , im sure desp w/e his face will do a video
fierce matrix
Crystal Paste Amounts
Expert = 15
Level roulette = 20
Level cap roulette = 15
DT fates = 3
OC CE = 5
Ex = 9
Normal = 8
Savage (Different per floor) = 10/11/11/18
PT = Starts at 10, scalling to be figured out. (10/11/12/13/x/17/x/26/x/x)
Quantum = ??
Totals basically done
Just need PT floor scaling
And quantum
boreal pumice
so what your saying is we need to get chiyo testing qauntum
tulip wraith
+2 per 10 floors 
tulip wraith
huh
boreal pumice
so your better off farming 70-100
fierce matrix
I actually dont have a confirmed number on the 11-20 but either way it wont be every 10
I have a confirmation on 21-30 giving 12
deft yarrow
maybe its +2 per level set
tulip wraith
+1 per 10 floors
deft yarrow
so 31 to 50 would be 14
rain geode
Maybe I will go back and get the PT mount now
tulip wraith
not confirmed but my little theory if we dont have floor 11-20
boreal pumice
hmm honestly i think farming 1-10 might be the best , in solo i can do it in like 20 ish mins + you can get sacks for gay anden and i think calfskin glam are the early floors
tulip wraith
at least roulettes arent duty based
for leveling i got 67 and 95 dungeon both giving 20
rain geode
Kinda tempted to do my M9S reclears before bed
sleek moon
well ig im buying tome weapon
rain geode
I mean why wouldnt you?
trim frost
@tulip wraith go to bed bruh
tulip wraith
im goinggggg
fierce matrix
People confirmed 13 for the next set btw
tulip wraith
i just brushed my teeth its sleep time
trim frost
thats kinda insane
tulip wraith
relic step 3 is the PT revival
trim frost
glad to see oc is still being underutilized
tulip wraith
240 CEs to max out paste 
trim frost
feel like they should've at least given like 1-2 per fate
trim frost
wanna interact with a point every fifteen seconds for 40 minutes again
i know you like it
tulip wraith
undone tide
chat is act back up
minor veldt
hi! does anyone know if we can grind the paste with different jobs, or are we locked only to the one we took the quest with?
tulip wraith
i was here for like the first 6 on sinus and 2 of them on phaenna
tulip wraith
hi! does anyone know if we can grind the paste with different jobs, or are we lo...
any job
trim frost
i did the first one on sinus and it was so boring
minor veldt
thanks!
tulip wraith
duty completion is all that matters
trim frost
i liked the fall guys ass music tho
tulip wraith
same
tulip anvil
i need paste
fierce matrix
Its not worth it tbh
odd beacon
no as in
sleek moon
only 134 train runs
odd beacon
You shouldn't grind thinking of the paste
tulip anvil
is fates the best thing to do?
odd beacon
Its just something you get while you're doing something else
I need to grind ex anyway so
fierce matrix
I already did all my totems sadly
tulip anvil
how much paste do we need?
fierce matrix
1200
odd beacon
how much paste do we need?
1200
loud nymph
is fates the best thing to do?
fates seems like an awful way to do it tbh
tulip anvil
WHAT
fierce matrix
Its a 1 time
loud nymph
3 per fate
fierce matrix
Same as the last few steps
loud nymph
1200 total
odd beacon
5 per CE btw
tulip anvil
1200!?
odd beacon
FT doesnt count
loud nymph
have fun with your 400 fates
fierce matrix
So if anyone asks check the pins
sleek moon
do roulettes -> do some jail time in OC
fierce matrix
Mine shows the Pilgrims traverse +1
odd beacon
tbh the pattern from the previous step also
valid solar
wouldnt spamming PT 1-10 be the fastest with a full team
fierce matrix
So im keeping mine for now
odd beacon
they want it to just be something you get while you're doing daily stuff
if you grinded all 40k last time in one day you prolly needed to be admitted tbh
trim frost
odd beacon
valid solar
cooly died for their sins
tulip anvil
but 71-100 is hard
rain geode
for PT?
sleek moon
that just feels like a recipe for disaster
71-100 would only be efficient if you speedrun it, and if you speedrun it you have a very high chance of making mistakes and wiping
rain geode
Cause 71-100 is pretty easy
fierce matrix
71-100 is really easy LOL
sleek moon
like if 71-80 happens to be 18 then doomtrain at 9 per run already looks slightly better
fierce matrix
The dangerous floor is 61-70
fierce matrix
like if 71-80 happens to be 18 then doomtrain at 9 per run already looks slightl...
Its 26
fierce matrix
valid solar
back into the PT mines it is
rain geode
71-80 alone is 26????
rain geode
Alright maybe Ill try to get some people together for a weekly PT run for a few weeks lmao
fierce matrix
Its not
The issue is its a leveling roulette
Those not only vary with instance length
But also vary with player skill
If PT is 26 for 71-80
Thats like a 20min run
Leveling is like 15-17 minutes
If you get gold sacks too thats ez money
wicked delta
Hello cuties how is the relic grind (istg they released one)
tulip anvil
with a full party leveling could be a great way to farm
certainly easier than higher floors pf PT
sleek moon
Leveling is like 15-17 minutes
if you do your ilvl cheating thing leveling can be like 10 mins with arr
sleek moon
i cant speak of the reworked aurum vale but the majority of arr dungeons can be cleared in like 11 mins
valid solar
Hello cuties how is the relic grind (istg they released one)
endgame crafting + aetherwell 2
sleek moon
if people arent sniffing glue
fierce matrix
Sorry its toto rak
sleek moon
and if you do premade you can go on dps that have aoe at lower levels
fierce matrix
And haukke manor
sleek moon
lock out any job that has single target at lower levels
trim frost
oh apparently i didn't need to max them
rain geode
endgame crafting + aetherwell 2
More like end game spend a little over a mil lmao
visual geyser
Anyone got a place with all the relics
zealous meteor
scammingway is back
dapper zealot
scammingway never left
boreal pumice
bow down
boreal pumice
even FT has low rewards in sanguite even if you do all extra stuff
signal dirge
so can you only get paste from the daily roulette bonus
fierce matrix
Its spammable ya
boreal pumice
In like 15 minutes if you skip
ive only done newbie/prog run im up to boss 4 but havent seen holy lance
boreal pumice
i hate how there is truth there , i havent gotten the tetther myself yet to really comment beside stand in stand , use shidorai
visual geyser
ive only done newbie/prog run im up to boss 4 but havent seen holy lance
Dude
You’re ready to clear
A good raid lead can literally just talk you through that last mech
fierce matrix
you should be 富人
So. That also means lady btw
I had this discovery a while ago LOL
zealous meteor
assigned woman at ffxiv discord
zealous meteor
am i the only person in this channel who doesn't speak chinese
zealous meteor
sleek moon
富 is abundance
fierce matrix
Shes got an abundance alright
zealous meteor
you know i'm glad that none of the plugins i use are Essential for playing the game. but man if i don't miss chat 2
tulip anvil
another relic step another set of scammers selling overpriced relic mats
wicked delta
endgame crafting + aetherwell 2
Ugh
valid solar
Ugh
this time though you arent forced to do rolo, there are other activities you can farm
its actually more like the "light" step from other relics
sleek moon
you know i'm glad that none of the plugins i use are Essential for playing the g...
night clubs will be empty today
random needle
Hrothgar bake co-- wait that's not what it is
trim frost
oh this game is awesome
thick citrus
hi all, basically best way to afrm paste is leveling?
deft shale
Step 3 Relic
valid solar
hi all, basically best way to afrm paste is leveling?
PT is fastest if you have a full time
signal dirge
THERES MORE THAN 1?
valid solar
floor 71-80 is 26 per
valid solar
<:edgeypaissa:588389112005001216> THERES MORE THAN 1?
1200 paste in total apparently
loud nymph
100 + 200 + 300 + 600 for the 4 steps is what I have heard
visual geyser
is it only 71-80 that gives the stuff
dapper zealot
60 levelling roulettes ain't too bad
valid solar
is it only 71-80 that gives the stuff
nah all of the checkpoint ones do I think
visual geyser
its not only the 1 time bonus right
trim frost
71-80 is just the easiest high floor to test quickly
valid solar
but 71-80 is the most
fierce matrix
Check pins
tawdry delta
So. That also means lady btw
are you chinese
dapper zealot
its not only the 1 time bonus right
nope, you can spam
zealous meteor
i love how i'm loporrit sized
loud nymph
assuming it is 1200 if you do literally only expert/leveling/level cap once per day each day it takes about 3 weeks
valid solar
are you chinese
only in spirit
dapper zealot
cause you smol
fierce matrix
What bungo said
loud nymph
this'll be a nice motivation to grind out the last 50 train totems I need tbh
random needle
Did they forget to add a method to do the grind in OC again 
visual geyser
no
loud nymph
no
boreal pumice
its just fucking dog shit
boreal pumice
outside fates not oc fates
random needle
terse zodiac
was about to say if OC fates gave 3 thats not bad at all
surreal hearth
nope
mortal stone
My static is asking me to have the new relic step by tonight 💀
loud nymph
lmao
terse zodiac
they take 10 seconds
visual geyser
no lol
loud nymph
square enix
mild wigeon
any post on what the finished relics look like?
loud nymph
why are you like this
visual geyser
any post on what the finished relics look like?
no it looks like
cant even do forked for the relic
worthless company
boreal pumice
My static is asking me to have the new relic step by tonight 💀
well , get on it
trim frost
aintnoway
river sequoia
My static is asking me to have the new relic step by tonight 💀
Gl with that
I ahvent even gotten the first step done
😭
loud nymph
My static is asking me to have the new relic step by tonight 💀
just do expert roulette 80 times today
random needle
I'm already sick of Mistwake I'm ngl
wicked delta
I can tolerate it because it has good glams
loud nymph
I did a quick expert before work got a group of stone cold gamers who got through mistwake in 12 minutes
random needle
It's such a downgrade from Meso Terminal imo
loud nymph
never gonna get a group like that again
boreal pumice
but tobi you are wol
wicked delta
They were just completely fine
zealous meteor
It's such a downgrade from Meso Terminal imo
no ipad baby mocking me, 0/10
wicked delta
I was like yup healer is a dogshit role we need to delete it
boreal pumice
also whats with new name
wicked delta
Ask Sarah man
river sequoia
I am missing 3 more right?
boreal pumice
nah they are odd
zealous meteor
I am missing 3 more right?
you are missing 15 more
loud nymph
I am missing 3 more right?
you're missing 15
zealous meteor
you need 3 of each
loud nymph
there are 6 types and you need 3 of each
zealous meteor
me when the game makes me do things in game: 
loud nymph
me when the game makes me do things in game: <:kyuuchan_shocked:8991100120084234...
Yeah they should just let Zane spend 20 bucks to skip the grind
trim frost
xiv players will do anything in their power to not play the game
zealous meteor
Yeah they should just let Zane spend 20 bucks to skip the grind
they can! just RMT 
(don't)
fierce matrix
Be like me
zealous meteor
(don't) (don't)
trim frost
this food is so fucking good lois
zealous meteor
its very simple
game makes me play game -> they are FORCING me to do content i DO NOT LIKE -> complain
game doesn't make me play game -> there is NO INCENTIVE to PLAY THE GAME -> complain
wicked delta
me when the game makes me do things in game: <:kyuuchan_shocked:8991100120084234...
I hate playing this game (resubs) I fucking hate FFXIV (resubs) I swear to God (resubs)
normal blade
To appease all is the work of sisyphus
wicked delta
Thats me lowkey
zealous meteor
its very simple
game makes me play game -> they are FORCING me to do content i ...
a real hater can always complain no matter what.
river sequoia
cant seem to decide wether to keep progging m9s or get the first step of relic done
boreal pumice
relic is just ex wpn
river sequoia
Just for glamour right?
ember quartz
forked tower magic bis ezpz
boreal pumice
but are you gonna grind it or let the pasta build up doing savage
river sequoia
but are you gonna grind it or let the pasta build up doing savage
hmm the grind doesnt seem that bad tbh
compared to eureka i hated that grind
loud nymph
but eureka is good
river sequoia
Hydatos hated
boreal pumice
ive done every eureka wpm
loud nymph
then why did you boost like 8 jobs
ember quartz
but eureka is good
Copingway
boreal pumice
ush kinger they are paying towards the next exps
river sequoia
but i never actually played them fully
loud nymph
ush kinger they are paying towards the next exps
lmao fair
wicked delta
Brother
wicked delta
The job came out in this expansion
loud nymph
wow you actually had to play the game
wicked delta
Why would there be a job skip
loud nymph
the horror
wicked delta
Idk which jobs came out which times
river sequoia
wow you actually had to play the game
I actually enjoyed doing all crafting and gathering
made some gil also
Cosmic very fun
just open netflix
and press 1 button
🤣
ember quartz
Nah eureka is unironically the best content in the game
baitingway
not saying oc is good even though forked is pretty cool
brisk scarab
boreal pumice
filthy poors do not belong in relic grinds
mortal stone
it'll be bis when the next stage is added
Oh wait so I don’t need it tonight for raid? Lmao
valid solar
Oh wait so I don’t need it tonight for raid? Lmao
it has more det substat but thats about it
main stat and ilevel is same
as EX
river sequoia
ACT
boreal pumice
bad boy ban inc
valid solar
mr yoshi P did not approve of this 
loud nymph
Oh wait so I don’t need it tonight for raid? Lmao
Fuck no lmao
jagged aspen
where do we do relic now
valid solar
ACT
ok jokes aside we were messing with you just remember to black out the names if you're ever flaming peoples dps here
what was the issue
jagged aspen
this?
river sequoia
ok jokes aside we were messing with you just remember to black out the names if ...
First time using it
valid solar
yes
river sequoia
Does ACT get updated
boreal pumice
its your choice effectivly with a group pt looks to be pretty good , leveling dungeons as well but augh
valid solar
yeah I think itll need an update for this patch
loud nymph
But servers have been up for like 2 hours so be patient
valid solar
no clue when itll be though
river sequoia
so its not updated rn?
jagged aspen
some time later today
river sequoia
ahhh okay okay
loud nymph
people have lives outside of "updating act"
river sequoia
is act SE verified?
loud nymph
Lmao no
jagged aspen
xddddddddddd
river sequoia
or nah
dapper zealot
nothing is
wicked delta
river sequoia
Thats funny
loud nymph
Third party add-ons are universally banned by SE
jagged aspen
SE is shuffling their opcodes on purpose every patch to break it, what do you think
valid solar
you will get an in game suspension if you talk about using act to see peoples dps, never say you're using it in game chat
river sequoia
Had someone talk about some kind of plugin to know next abilities and shit last m9s party
That was funny
fierce matrix
My cousin uses my chat log to count up every single damage to calculate my dps
Thats why we call it cousins
wicked delta
Most people in high end will talk about that shit anyway ngl
loud nymph
Had someone talk about some kind of plugin to know next abilities and shit last ...
there's literally no point to this tbh
boreal pumice
we all know what happens with dmg meters ppl get big egos , maybe greed mechs they shoulnt , shame the shitters its why we dont talk about it
loud nymph
because fights have scripted timelines
wicked delta
Cus everyone in high end uses ACT
loud nymph
down to the second
wicked delta
boreal pumice
i dont use act
valid solar
yeah that ones straight up a cheat
boreal pumice
mainly because i cant get it working and im a brd
fierce matrix
we all know what happens with dmg meters ppl get big egos , maybe greed mechs th...
There is no such thing as greed.
Only good play or bad play
river sequoia
Never heard of it till now so
boreal pumice
there is only samuari player
river sequoia
we all know what happens with dmg meters ppl get big egos , maybe greed mechs th...
really?
boreal pumice
brother hub
fierce matrix
Yeah thats a vast majority of people
boreal pumice
i know mmo players
jagged aspen
or you can hope someone uploads your logs and then check them 😄
fierce matrix
Most people dont give a fuck about what other people are doing to vocalize it as an issue unless its an actual problem
jagged aspen
but yea doing it yourself is more reliable
boreal pumice
games always have a ego , no matter what even in team games , pvp whos got the most kills flexing
jagged aspen
Most people dont give a fuck about what other people are doing to vocalize it as...
unless you get summoner below tanks
fierce matrix
Aether isnt even the sweat dc
Its the content DC
Everyone funnels there for content since there is no cross DC PF
river sequoia
Cuz everytime Im trying to Practice Prog M9S I've been getting cry babies and stuff within the 2nd wipe
Primal is better imo
fierce matrix
Hell no
boreal pumice
people just want mega servers its the way it always is
fierce matrix
Primal and crystal players not only continously cause me more problems in pf, the server itself has less pfs
boreal pumice
i want to be where everyone is i want to find groups asap
jagged aspen
well yea one big pf is better than two small ones
fierce matrix
I see Raff and Diabolos players and ik its gonna be a rough time
fresh ether
hi everyone, im trying to practice my rotations on a new class, where can i hit training dummies without having to wait for my CDs to come off?
jagged aspen
and a multi dollar company still cant figure out how to do region wide pf in 2026
jagged aspen
hi everyone, im trying to practice my rotations on a new class, where can i hit ...
you can leave and enter explorer mode dungeon
which resets your cds
boreal pumice
using anicent code is hard , hell even wow has a problem with the default bag if they do something with that it cocks something else up
wicked delta
Primal and crystal players not only continously cause me more problems in pf, th...
I used to not understand “no travelers” but the more I pf the more I understand
fierce matrix
and a multi dollar company still cant figure out how to do region wide pf in 202...
Tbf, that requires them to redo their entire infrastructure from a fundamental level. You havr to disconnect and reconnect to different data centers, meaning that the data is not stored on the same place. Which is also why you need to transfer your data to them
jagged aspen
using anicent code is hard , hell even wow has a problem with the default bag if...
yea but wow completely remade how zones and instances work probably twice so far 🤷
boreal pumice
man idk how coding works likely alot harder then just fix it
fierce matrix
And you know how servers are handled now when it gets congested
visual geyser
its not like they dont want to do it
fierce matrix
Imagine how much that would be escalated to
jagged aspen
games arent rocket science, theres much bigger codebases out there
its just game companies dont see value in improving their code because it doesnt bring them money
fierce matrix
Yeah and lets look at crowdstrike for example
jagged aspen
whereas other companies just lose to competition if their product sucks
visual geyser
lol
fierce matrix
Remember when ONE bad update hit?
boreal pumice
its a domino effect touch one thing then somthing else messes up its hard
visual geyser
my wife 😮
river sequoia
Imo the amount of content in the game rn its hard to really fix stuff prior
fresh ether
is there a dungeon where i can fall off the arena to reset my CD without leaving?
fierce matrix
Imo the amount of content in the game rn its hard to really fix stuff prior
Thats not really what we are talking about tbh
We are talking about servers
river sequoia
Mass PF on all DC?
fierce matrix
Yes, im saying it requires a full rework of their entire network infrastructure just based on the info we have when transferring and connecting to DCs if we wanted to have cross region or even same region DC
It would have to be a mega DC
fierce matrix
The work for that would be a fuck ton of money and time
fierce matrix
And possibly some of the worst issues imaginable with data
jagged aspen
oh
fierce matrix
We already got some slight server updates this patch and linkshells randomly got deleted
I cant imagine what data issues we would have with a full server infrastructure rework
jagged aspen
maybe if its a rework and not an attempt to monkey patch cross dc into existing code
fierce matrix
Well they cant really do that is what im saying
visual geyser
what is everyone doing to get their relics
jagged aspen
like, if they actually put enough ppl on it, they could definitely do it within a couple months. its just a lot of money that doesnt really do much for them, unless people start to quit over it
fierce matrix
The way stuff is setup, you cant just implement it
jagged aspen
what is everyone doing to get their relics
im already on the second dialog box of the quest
visual geyser
well what did you do
fierce matrix
DCs are entirely separate, you cant just have their data be shown in the PFs unless you want a constant connection to every DC which would be such a fucking data strain
There is a reason why we also have to transfer the data back and forth cause they dont have that infrastructure
jagged aspen
what data strain, europe dcs are in the same place anyway 😄
fierce matrix
Thats not how that works LOL
jagged aspen
and dcs arent a single physical machine anyway so its just a scale issue
fierce matrix
Like I said, even if that wasnt a problem you have to basically rework how that exists because even if you cross DC you still have to implement a system to queue into instances/party
Which, again, character data is on the data center and only on one datacenter
Hence the transferring of data when you travel
jagged aspen
well yea assuming DC has a central node that stores character data. its quite likely that it hits the limit at a certain point. and they would have to distribute it somehow
fierce matrix
Yeah to me it just seems likely unfeasable unless you do a full rework
Like itll be less work to do a rework than to jerryrig it
If thats even possible
dapper zealot
Starting to get the shit tanks in rolo now
remote gate
im sorry
dapper zealot
Pls mit thanks
boreal pumice
rolled worst then tobi 
zealous meteor
new zone reminds me of zadnor tbh
visual geyser
Looks like the peaks to me
normal blade
Pls mit thanks
Simply dont die 4head
mortal stone
Have we found the optimal way to sniff glue yet
jolly flume
yeah it's called playing white mage
mortal stone
Not that kind of glue
fierce matrix
Matters what you want
The easiest way thats fast is doing fates
The fastest way thats harder is doing PT 71-100
Crystal Paste Amounts
Expert = 15
Level roulette = 20
Level cap roulette = 15
DT fates = 3
OC CE = 5
Ex = 9
Normal = 8
Savage (Different per floor) = 10/11/11/18
PT (Different per floor set) = 10/11/12/13/15/17/21/26/26/26
Quantum = ???
visual geyser
I got 5 days left on my sub
Don’t think I’ll make it in time
Don’t wanna resub until criterion drops gonna just have to come back to the grind
zealous meteor
so wtf are dronebits used for
rain geode
By not succeding
jagged aspen
you cant rapid synth master crafts??
zealous meteor
you're probably thinking of quick synth
jagged aspen
oh you mean that thing
zealous meteor
rapid synth is the free but not guaranteed to work synthesis action
jagged aspen
no its not in the macro. its just step rng
loud nymph
yeah the 50/50
jagged aspen
how much is 1 expert roulette?
loud nymph
15
jaunty pulsar
I just bought the item from the MB for the relic 160k * 2 + 380k + 500k from the npc...
anyway is it true that it's total 1200 points you need to gather?
loud nymph
yes
jaunty pulsar
it seems like I won't play GW2 for a bit now xD
I do really hope that for subsequential relic for the other classe it is easy to complete
wicked delta
@daring pine How did savage prog for u
loud nymph
I do really hope that for subsequential relic for the other classe it is easy to...
it will likely just be 1500 tomes for alt jobs
much like the other DT steps have been
jaunty pulsar
makes sense
random needle
They should bring back books for the 4th step :3
jagged aspen
oh right you can do oc for it
jagged aspen
what about normal fates
loud nymph
3
terse zodiac
1200 isnt bad if you do minimal grind like the last step its easily doable in 2 weeks, if you grind hard it's not gonna take long at all
jagged aspen
1200 isnt bad if you do minimal grind like the last step its easily doable in 2 ...
how would you do minimal grind, is there a daily bonus?
loud nymph
you get it from roulettes
jagged aspen
ye but not just daily bonus right?
loud nymph
15 expert 15 level cap dungeons 20 leveling
loud nymph
ye but not just daily bonus right?
Right
jagged aspen
so it doesnt matter if you grind them out or just do your dailies
terse zodiac
yeah
loud nymph
that's my point
jagged aspen
unlike the last step that took a lot longer if you spammed them
loud nymph
you can sit down and grind it out if you want
or you can slow roll it via your dailies
jagged aspen
ye but if its X hours no matter if you do it all at once or not
then theres no advantage to doing it slow?
terse zodiac
like i'm just saying put an hour or 2 in everyday youll be done in 2 weeks probably
loud nymph
sure there is
terse zodiac
or if you want to grind harder you'll be done faster
loud nymph
the advantage is I don't have to sit down and grind it all out at once
jagged aspen
but you still spend the same time in total 🤷
boreal pumice
its shrimply a choice bull rush it or take it slow if you got a ex wpn who cares
loud nymph
right, it's a purely psychological thing
native vapor
if you do take it slow you spend the same time but you also just get your daily rewards
jagged aspen
i guess. if were done before the next step just by doing normal stuff then yea
since you also get points for doing savage it seems
loud nymph
it's not like you need to grind this step out anyway
native vapor
if you do your dailies every day anyway you save time taking it slow
zealous meteor
ok i figured out what dronebits are for
talk to the lizzer to exchange them for basically treasure maps
ashen patrol
Ok. Need this dumb question answered: is glue the same as the paste or is that a different step?
flint ledge
15 expert 15 level cap dungeons 20 leveling
Ig I need to re unlock expert n level cap
native vapor
Ok. Need this dumb question answered: is glue the same as the paste or is that a...
different steps
ashen patrol
Nooooooo I’m not there yet? Internally crying lol
loud nymph
idk what the glue is is that the vendor thing
loud nymph
oh that
ashen patrol
Oh waiiiit now I’m confused.
The current step from 7.41 people are talking about “glue” and it’s like 1200 of them total. Are they talking about the paste? Because I did the aetherwell part
loud nymph
that's paste
dapper zealot
that's paste yeah
tulip wraith
its paste but i think people are just calling it glue cause idk
jolly flume
anyone wanna tell me why we need glue to make a weapon
loud nymph
anyone wanna tell me why we need glue to make a weapon
Need to glue the aether on
jolly flume
I hope my weapon isn't held together with glue
dapper zealot
you need to stick it to your hand to hold it
ashen patrol
Ok so it’s like when people started calling the demiatma “gummies”
tulip wraith
anyone wanna tell me why we need glue to make a weapon
how else is it gonna stay together???
loud nymph
hot glue gun ass relic
ashen patrol
Uhh I mean super glue right? That’s how I hold my car together 😅
loud nymph
relic by 5 minute crafts
wicked delta
anyone wanna tell me why we need glue to make a weapon
Umamusume stocks
jolly flume
Umamusume stocks
goodbye rice shower
ocean rock
How many Paste total do we need?
loud nymph
1200
boreal pumice
i see how this gonna go its gonna keep ramping asking for more stupid voidsent
terse zodiac
i really hope everyone who was confused about the glue 10 mins ago just skipped the quest because reading comprehension can not be this dire 😭
torn kindle
Crystal Paste Amounts
Expert = 15
Level roulette = 20
Level cap roulette = 15
DT...
Insane that PT gives 26 paste at 70+
boreal pumice
i cant see pin
torn kindle
Shows for me
random needle
It's still so deranged to me that the reward from doing it in OC is so crummy compared to like... every other method
boreal pumice
isnt that a old pin
torn kindle
Newer one by 3 hours
boreal pumice
unless its you need to repin for updates or something
torn kindle
I removed the old version
zealous meteor
It's still so deranged to me that the reward from doing it in OC is so crummy co...
"here's your fucking OC method, now stop complaining"
random needle
I want to have a reason to do the field ops content though 😭
boreal pumice
same , my right side costs 100+ mil and i want to use it for more then FT
loud nymph
yeah it's kinda funny that they went like
boreal pumice
do you think they didnt do fates in oc because they just die so fast (when ppl arent doing CE)
terse zodiac
fates giving any would be by far the fastest way to grind them casually
loud nymph
"ok we hear you it sucked that you couldn't do aetherwells in OC"
"now here's a method to grind paste in OC"
torn kindle
Imagine if they did literally ANYTHING to fix OC fates
dapper zealot
@zealous meteor
torn kindle
(My suggestion would be massive damage mitigation for the first 30-60 seconds which then scales based on number of players)
worn bluff
should have made jumping puzzles give some paste 
loud nymph
<@694563574386786314>
share code
boreal pumice
heres something they could done its similar to how chests work with mobs sure it would make ppl do gold farming again but its something to do
worn bluff
share code
i have one that looks cuter but not at my computer i’ll try to remember to grab it
quick flame
Anyone got the Imgur album of new relics?
boreal pumice
that desp w/e has a video
quick flame
One thing that channel is good for, ty
thin fox
anyone wanna tell me why we need glue to make a weapon
i made it in my arts and crafts class
please be nice to me
i'm new
daring pine
<@333161906435129344> How did savage prog for u
lol we got 3 pulls in and then people left and it didnt refill
3 pulls
three
fierce matrix
like i'm just saying put an hour or 2 in everyday youll be done in 2 weeks proba...
24 days
so almost 3.5 weeks
terse zodiac
what
fierce matrix
if you do your dailies
boreal pumice
let him cook
fierce matrix
you only get 50
terse zodiac
i didn't say just doing dailies? i said grind for an hour or 2 a day
torn mesa
is this the incentive to parse
boreal pumice
tbh your not saying what your grinding is it constent
fierce matrix
thats what I just assumed you meant since it was also in the convo about dailies so my b
torn mesa
wait
fierce matrix
but yeah i mean I can do a 71-100 a day and get it done in like a 2 weeks
if not less
torn mesa
you need 400 right
fierce matrix
1200
boreal pumice
1200
fierce matrix
exactly
torn mesa
ye okay
fierce matrix
Crystal Paste Amounts
Expert = 15
Level roulette = 20
Level cap roulette = 15
DT...
here is the breakdown
torn mesa
time to do more savage I guess or something
terse zodiac
yeah i just meant even if you take it pretty chill and only get 80-100 a day you'll finish in 2 weeks
boreal pumice
math time
fierce matrix
Savage is dogshit to farm LOL
jolly flume
but yeah i mean I can do a 71-100 a day and get it done in like a 2 weeks
do that on my account thanks I want the hair
torn mesa
savage is probably the best way to do it for me
fierce matrix
better yet
jolly flume
fierce matrix
go clear quantum for me rq so I can get totals
torn mesa
in that it's both decently efficient, and I'd enjoy the content to some extent
jolly flume
go clear quantum for me rq so I can get totals
let's do this together, bro
boreal pumice
let's do this together, bro
jolly flume
I feel like everything burns should've been in quantum
it would make thematic sense
since you spend the entire fucking 10 minutes bleeding
boreal pumice
just ivun the tb dw about the bleed 
fierce matrix
thats not the mech
boreal pumice
just having p8 flash back
fierce matrix
i wish the buster in 11 did the same thing that P8S buster did
jolly flume
force you to double swap?
its kinda cool I guess
what with the wild charge + lingering aoe thing
fierce matrix
ya
jolly flume
I feel like xiv does a pretty shit job of having frequent enough busters that mit actually matters to any significant extent tho
the sword in weapons should've been a wild charge thoughts
jolly flume
yeah thats how we got 12-2
