endgame-lounge

[dull drum]

m5 the best first floor this expac

thoughts on my take

[thin fox]

long have i dreamed of the day we match wits ... but every dream must come to an end

CHILLS

[torn mesa]

ye I agree

[thin fox]

kind of just obviously true

[vestal hollow]

CHAT

I DONT HAVE WORK TOMORROW

[torn mesa]

P11S is great in every way except the fight itself

[vestal hollow]

LETSFUCKINGGOOOO

[dapper zealot]

You'll be clocking into the pf factory

[zealous meteor]

idiot thinks it has no work tomorrow. wrong. savage time

[thin fox]

here's how I'd compare the fights by floor (which I think is the fairest comparison)

• floor 1: 5 > 1 > 9
• floor 2: 6 > 10 > [massive gap for emphasis] > 2
• floor 3: 11 > 7 > [massive gap for emphasis] > 3
• floor 4, phase 1: 8 > 4 > 12
• floor 4, phase 2: 12 > 8 > 4

[wicked delta]

Massive gap is funny as fuck

[torn mesa]

order I agree, but margins between fights is debatable

[grand mesa]

7 is cooler than 11

Conceptually

11 is just another boring third turn with number checks in it

[thin fox]

7 is certainly a more creative fight than 11

[grand mesa]

With the occasional bodycheck mechanic

[torn mesa]

tyrant is the best 3rd floor I've done

[dull drum]

i mean isnt that just 7 too though

lol

[torn mesa]

it's not creative, but who cares

caloric is creative and sucks

[grand mesa]

They were a little more creative with it

[thin fox]

something I like about M7 which I want them to do with more wall bosses is playing with the boss jumping from wall to wall

[torn mesa]

9 > 1 for me

1 is too much of a striking dummy

[worn bluff]

it’s kind a fun fight for vibes for half of it i think. it makes for some fun stuff like i’ve seen people play roulette with everyone standing on it to see who gets lucky

[thin fox]

roulette should be meta

if you're a good person you get the bubble

[torn mesa]

everyone except phys ranged try to go in bubble

[grand mesa]

I'll leave the party..

[torn mesa]

we did melees in bubble W1

[thin fox]

valoomf is a good person so they'll always get the bubble. i believe.

[torn mesa]

which actually made our prog much easier

[grand mesa]

😔

Mp econ during bubble as ast is kind of rough

Since a lot of groups save 2s

I don't get to recard and get 2k

[dull drum]

we were thinking of doing healer + sam in the bubble week 1 but it got vetoed

[torn mesa]

we did not do parallel W1

[grand mesa]

It was never really hard enough to need that fwiw

[thin fox]

when doing pf reclears with my blm friend the scholar in our party gave her the bubble spot unprompted which pmo because picto literally has the worst movement of all the casters so i should've had the bubble

[torn mesa]

so the number of times a melee got assassinated

was insane

[dull drum]

parallel aerial goated

[torn mesa]

PCT movement is fine

[dull drum]

i dont think that was out though till like

day 3-4?? (parallel aerial)

[rain geode]

I thought PCT had a dash?

[torn mesa]

you have a hammer, smudge and 1 comet during that part

[grand mesa]

I had the revelation that blm is just a healer for people who don't want to heal the other day

truly

[torn mesa]

not to mention swift motif

[worn bluff]

only person in the world to hate parallel

[robust shoal]

what if I use my eyes to make it parallel

[rain geode]

Is there like any real downside to Parallel?

[worn bluff]

straight to jail

[grand mesa]

Slightly tighter first bait

Not much else after

[torn mesa]

1st bait = stand on marker lol

[grand mesa]

The safe spot will always be clearly lined out as the side opposite of where the parallel line is

[dull drum]

legit first baits arent bad

you either stand on north markers or south markers basically

[thin fox]

summoner

• every cast is an instant cast
  black mage
• 2x triplecast
• xenoglossy
• paradox
• swiftcast
• fire 3 proc
• thunder
  red mage
• dualcast
• swiftcast
• backflip (good for going out with tether)
• 2x acceleration
• melee combo
  pictomancer
• swift (mostly only good for paint)
• comet in black
• hammer combo
• dash
• holy in white (dps loss)

i would argue pictomancer is

EASILY

the worst here

its not even close

i didn't even write every black mage one cuz i forgot that despair is also movement

[random needle]

Smudge is very useful, but yeah I'd definitely say Picto has the most limited movement of the casters

[torn mesa]

you aren't using melee combo there as RDM

[rain geode]

Im gonna be honest Ive only healed the fight so I have no clue how deep aerial works

[worn bluff]

you probably have smudge for each tether you get though

[torn mesa]

smudge is infinitely better than backflip too

[thin fox]

even if i subtract melee combo its still better imo

[grand mesa]

What mechanic is this again

Bubble?

[torn mesa]

it's not

[thin fox]

deep aerial is bubble

[random needle]

Blue tether needs to stretch and not hit the bubble, red tether needs to stretch and hit the bubble

[torn mesa]

PCT has more

[grand mesa]

Blue tether no touchy, red tether yes touchy

[rain geode]

yeah the mechanic we were just talking about

[grand mesa]

blue tether touchy bubble bad, red tether touchy bubble good

thats about it

[torn mesa]

you also only have 1 acceleration there

[random needle]

Every red tether hit does 15% to the bubble, and there's 6 total tethers, so you need to hit the bubble 6 times and do 10% in pure damage to break it

[grand mesa]

blue gives the bubble a dmg resist buff

[worn bluff]

me but as tank with fixed stampede and meteorain baiting

[grand mesa]

red deals dmg

[thin fox]

picto might be better for a long stretch of uninterrupted movement but i think for repeated sporadic bursts of movement like bubble red mage is easily better

[random needle]

And if you hit it with blue tether, you're probably enraging

[grand mesa]

Not really

[thin fox]

like for something like TOP p6 exas

[torn mesa]

tether is not sporadic lol

[thin fox]

picto is probably better

[torn mesa]

everyone gets it exactly twice

[grand mesa]

I've hit it one or two times in a party and still met check

[torn mesa]

if no deaths

[thin fox]

sporadic in the sense that you are not doing constant uninterrupted movement, but rather shorter bursts of movement at a time with periods of rest between

[torn mesa]

yes, PCT is still better there

1st tether you hammer

2nd you comet/smudge

or even swift motif

and you're done

[rain geode]

Oh do you always eat 2 tethers in that mechanic?

[thin fox]

i uptime the mechanic just fine i'm just saying re: the reason i even brought it up that its much worse than black mage

[thin fox]

6 pairs of tethers so everyone gets a tether twice

[torn mesa]

BLM is borderline phys ranged at this point in terms of how much movement economy they have

[thin fox]

though you dont always get one of each tether

can be 2 of the same tether

[torn mesa]

they still cast but there's never a time they struggle for instants

[random needle]

Except we can actually do damage, unlike sum munners I know

[thin fox]

honestly the biggest boon to black mage movement is the fact that triple cast is no longer a damage gain so you're not punished for using it for movement

[torn mesa]

saying BLM has movement issues for casters is like saying VPR has uptime issues for melee

triplecast being a gain was cool

[thin fox]

i agree

[grand mesa]

(it still is, just so minor that you're griefing yourself if you use it just to have no movement for a mechanic)

[dull drum]

vipers balling this tier cant lie

[torn mesa]

holy is still a tiny loss only as well

[dull drum]

https://tenor.com/view/ballin-gif-24950934

[torn mesa]

VPR isn't balling though

[thin fox]

is it because triplecast enables earlier damage application for end of buffs or is this some weird niche bs

[torn mesa]

you'd think the free uptime would be nice

[grand mesa]

Niche transpose bs

[thin fox]

[torn mesa]

but it's still below other melees lol

[random needle]

At least you're not RPR

[dull drum]

free uptime is free uptime 🥀

[grand mesa]

Transpose hb1 instant b3 is a gain over hard casting b3 in fire

[torn mesa]

is this the pranged cope take

[thin fox]

oh you meant that

[worn bluff]

[grand mesa]

I respect melee players who admit they're not good and decide to play the easier job

[dull drum]

yeah basically

[grand mesa]

Just press your goddamn buttons

[rain geode]

Jobs are close enough why not just play the easier one

[thin fox]

i only have experience with viper and samurai and honestly samurai is so much more fun just in general but also for how you do uptime

[worn bluff]

vpr was pretty good with damage when it first released idk what happened

[thin fox]

the tsubame change was so good for sam honestly. one of the rare instances where nominal streamlining ended up adding to a job instead of taking away.

[worn bluff]

i find SAM very fun i’m just bad at meikyo acceleration

[thin fox]

being able to hold tsubame for buffs or uptime is

[torn mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1323845873700048967/1460539786967121961/my-image.png?ex=69771b2c&is=6975c9ac&hm=0bd04f679a96d04a6f74ecbee9b50e8258cbd9ae0b6f1a3ae024dd862a238ca1&

[grand mesa]

i accelerated and held ur mother last night..

mb

[torn mesa]

my ranking of arcadion fights

[worn bluff]

[thin fox]

i just hit meikyo when the vibe is right lowkenuinely

sometimes ur midpull n ur like

i should hit meikyo

[grand mesa]

That's me with swift cast on astro

[torn mesa]

LHW L with 3 D tiers

[grand mesa]

(someone will die and I will have to raise them)

[random needle]

I know I should be using Swift on healer for movement and not just saving it for raises

[grand mesa]

Depends on your party

[random needle]

I will do that as soon as I can be assured that people won't kill themselves in 4 seconds after I press it

[grand mesa]

You should generally be holding swift, specially for prog

[worn bluff]

that’s kind of how i play it. freestyle

[grand mesa]

But if you expect people not to die to simple shit in a clear party it's usually fine to send it for movement

[worn bluff]

i just don’t get the timing exactly right

[clear plume]

Vpr sure isn’t helped this tier by the short fights

[thin fox]

don't worry val i will psychically determine when you've been using swift for movement and adjust how much i greed uptime based on it

[rain geode]

I always hold swift the healer casts are short enough I should be able to get uptime without swift

[valid solar]

I think they should nerf viper cleave again

[clear plume]

6:30 kt door boss is crazy bad for vpr opener being what it is

[grand mesa]

At least I can heal you when you get a damage down

[valid solar]

just in case they didnt get the idea from the last 4 times

[worn bluff]

now it heals any extra targets

[grand mesa]

my melees just evaporate

[torn mesa]

VPR is okay if you're in an extremely selfish comp.

problem is extremely selfish comps are bad

[grand mesa]

The one melee I've not seen in rpr

[valid solar]

ive never had a reaper in a clear party

[grand mesa]

Truly forgotten

I think

[dull drum]

i havent seen one this tier in pf

straight up

[grand mesa]

I don't end up caring about comp

[valid solar]

reaper mains still waiting for deaths design to be removed from the game

[dull drum]

whats coolys take on this

[valid solar]

[grand mesa]

I just pray for people to be cognisant enough to press buttons

[rain geode]

RPR is real rough

[thin fox]

there are so many jobs i play where there's opti and i just vibes it out and do good damage anyway

[rain geode]

Kinda glad I didnt end up playing it

[thin fox]

you will never catch me doing proper edges on dark knight

[grand mesa]

Because literally every enrage I've had this tier has been a clear skill issue that wouldn't have been solved by a job swap

[thin fox]

buddy i just hit that shit whenever

"erm its 3/5"

who's counting

[torn mesa]

I'd take a RPR over a MCH/SMN easily

[valid solar]

remember when viper had deaths design except it was applied as part of the gcd combo and not a seperate button

but it got removed because ppl thought it was too hard to manage or some shit like that

[thin fox]

bro is using the windows vista version of

[valid solar]

I am not upgrading to the HD version of

[zealous meteor]

windows vista was peak

yall just had bad computers

[valid solar]

I was 2 years old when vista released

[grand mesa]

i miss 7

[zealous meteor]

why are you a fucking baby

i miss 7 too

[clear plume]

Rank 1 12-2 speed right now is smn

[valid solar]

return of the king /s

[torn mesa]

yeah man, surely speeds right now

mean a lot

[worn bluff]

if you take away death design now i think double enshroud might also go away and you just hit da flashy button

job would need a bigger rework

[torn mesa]

did you guys test pacman BTW @clear plume

[valid solar]

groups who were doing splits have full bis already no ? or was that next week

[worn bluff]

but i don’t think the devs like double enshroud anyways

[thin fox]

it is so very clear the devs do not want people doing double enshroud

[torn mesa]

depends on job, but likely next week

[clear plume]

Yeah, we did it successfully but don’t think it’s worth it bc we were killing too fast anyways and don’t want to do healer sb

Damage was fine when done right

But it’s very fast

[worn bluff]

tbf the new gnb gnashing opti is not that different from how double enshroud works

[clear plume]

You’re basically trading 3 healer gcds and all your mit for 2 melee gcds and some guaranteed prange cleave over it being rng

And doing a much harder thing for it

If you’re doing healer sb tho it’s free to tell them to put the cure 3 in the bag

[torn mesa]

tank LB?

for me it's 2 ranged attacks on good pattern, 5 on bad

[clear plume]

Didn’t use a tank lb no

Felt like we wouldn’t want to use it if we settled on the Strat, so we wanted to actually test it’s damage

Bc doing a Strat to get melee uptime and then telling tanks to lose those uptime to tank lb would be ????

[torn mesa]

1 tank v. both tanks and melees

[clear plume]

Just using party mit worked fine

[thin fox]

the actual strat: just kill it before arena split

[clear plume]

We had pld drk so veil was nice after cone hit to heal and mitigate next bleed tho that gnb drk wouldnt have, but I don’t think with tank lb you’re doing it healer gcd less anyways

We think we are going to try

Same mit but melees just dash to blue

[thin fox]

when does a full bis giga pump party kill 10

[clear plume]

Next raid

[thin fox]

not a full on speed clear but just like all bis pumpers

[clear plume]

And just use mit on the duo stacks

Uh we had a 8:22 with no lb no healer weapons

I think the current 7:58 r1 or whatever is single lb splits group though

Basically they die during ia2

Just before it for r1

[vestal hollow]

hmm

do i work on monk alt or mch alt first chat

well

"i"

[thin fox]

mch

play monk so you can get 0 parses from all the gearfed monks

[grand mesa]

follow ur heart

[clear plume]

Maybe 8:10-8:20 would be what I consider a “good” run

[vestal hollow]

listen its an npc alt she's typecast

[grand mesa]

diss mch all u want, but I'd rather get a 99% uptime mch than some of the melees I've been getting

[limpid edge]

how do you check how many times a player been thru each mech?

on tomestone

[vestal hollow]

i parked both of these somehow

nitowikwe can only realistically be a mch

[zealous meteor]

what does this mean

[clear plume]

I hate the bard shit I have to do in 10 tho so I’ll just deal with my pb for now and sb for group I think

(You have to rip apex basically off cd and if you get unlucky your rotation breaks 2m in)

And again before bubble

[torn mesa]

you have a 2s window on SAM

[worn bluff]

what’s the most fun job that uses raid body

[torn mesa]

to send your 2's late enough to cleave both before spectacular and before snaking split off

[worn bluff]

oh wait i think maiming uses body

maybe i’ll do drg

[clear plume]

Bc my pb rn I have BA as my last gcd before untargetable and again it was available for 2 gcds before bubble which is 100% optimal and let me 100 gauge when they’re back after bubble but

I had a 89% proc rate that pull

Which is above average

[torn mesa]

M10S first fight since TOP

where I changed GCD speed for it

[clear plume]

I was above 33k ndps tho

Which is insane for bard

For the kt we got

(Right before a 2m)

Basically same rdps as my melees

Who r also 787 ilvl

[torn mesa]

your melees are slacking

[clear plume]

It was a 8:39 kt when buffs come up at 8:37

So they’re losing a 1m

2m etc

If I had slight sandbag I’m actually

Like this fight is same thing at p10s where you need a 20-30s sandbag probably

And then the degen groups will 3m sandbag it

But I don’t want to do a 5 person sandbag for that

[stray forge]

Hello, Cooly here (real and true). Reapers should get a 10% bonus to damage to all mobs as a passive.

[clear plume]

Sam is still tome weapon tho too

[torn mesa]

43k tome weapon is easily doable

44k is with decent crit/KT

[rapid whale]

i kicked him from my party for his attitude and he proceeded to flame me lmaoo

[stray forge]

oof

[torn mesa]

"where the heals"

[spice path]

Being a non fed over played melee in a healer only buff comp sucks lol but I like my group do I'll suffer.

[rapid whale]

yea they were flaming heals over them dyign to steeam explosions

like brotherman you didnt get out of the aoe they cant heal stupid

[stray forge]

Goodbye aether maybe I'll be able to sneak onto you again in like a week

[thin fox]

i had to explain the "where were the eels" meme to someone today

[worn bluff]

someone died in arena split and said “i died to damage” and the healers were like brother you cannot die to damage in that spot

[random needle]

I died to steam on my last pull in m10 and it made me feel so bad

[clear plume]

Anyways uh what we want to try instead is

Melee from non blue side run through no matter what

T1/m1 t2/m2 and the ranged from each side as static pairs

And always tanks run through middle for final stack when blue is gone anyways

To have 4/4 final stacks again

And it should be same uptime as Pac-Man but less party bleed

[rapid whale]

wait

does the maint mean criterion comes out on tuesday

[spice path]

No

Maint is 7 41

Criterion is 7 45

[rapid whale]

i wonder what this one's for then, relic step?

[spice path]

This one is new cosmic planet and relic steps for both cosmic and battle.

[rapid whale]

gotcha

[visual geyser]

And hildi I believe

[loud nymph]

I think hildi isn't until .45

yup

[thin tartan]

[2:14(ASiren) actually i decided i'm not doing this fight today.
[2:146 of 8 party members are eligible for duty rewards. The number of coffers to appear will be 1.

[limpid edge]

VILLY

[random needle]

He's just like me fr

[valid solar]

holy based

bro realized they had better things to do than bang their head against the wall in savage

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/weak-weakness-disgusts-me-disgusted-disgusting-gif-17171223

[random needle]

I know when I've reached my limit and I can't keep going in a day

[normal blade]

Have a merc party up. Praying that people can help clear m11

[craggy marsh]

I want to hop into savage rn but im busy watching idiots in cars outside my window

Teenagers should never be put behind the wheel

[limpid edge]

when should i be leaving a party if dps aint cuttin it ? no deaths no dds 50% way thru of the fight?

[rapid whale]

tough to say

[limpid edge]

or right before a major mech mid-way

[rapid whale]

some comps r super 2min heavy

so they will look disproportionally weaker

even if they r doing buttons fine

[vestal hollow]

what fight is this in reference to

[limpid edge]

m11s cuz dps check is all the rage in that fight

[vestal hollow]

because m10 has a lot more cleave options in the second half than first

[mellow oar]

The criterion changes that are coming apply to only the new criterion dungeon or are they reworking all the previous ones as well?

[iron jewel]

only to the new one.

[tawdry delta]

new only

[iron jewel]

they're not going to entirely rework the old ones, lol.

[jade nimbus]

In general they never touch old content

[rain geode]

At least older content that isnt ARR

[jade nimbus]

Outside the msq dungeons ( and now optional dungeons) rework

But that was its own thing

[limpid edge]

what do people do for m11s spreads in the beginning? Ive been yoloing it too much cuz everyone feels like they doing somethin different

[brisk scarab]

YIPPEEEE

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/sphene-ffxiv-dawntrail-sphere-gif-8076540594294489330

[brisk scarab]

3/3 Field Operation Mounts

[boreal pumice]

but there is more then 3 from field ops , but only 3 from the savages

[brisk scarab]

Ye

Thats what Im referring too

[boreal pumice]

never ask cherry about bozja field notes

[rapid whale]

rang go far e/w, healers go far south, melee on se sw hitbox

[worn bluff]

do you mean 50% HP on a clean pull at start of arena split?

if so yeah you’re not killing it

[limpid edge]

screw it i just joined an any chest group and cleared

FUCK m11s pf

a nice fat 9 i'll take it

cuz i died at the end

[clear plume]

Why would you leave a group for damage 50% through the fight ever

[rapid whale]

have fun in 12

[limpid edge]

clear party w/ 1% passports not doing satisfactory dps halfway thru the fight w/o deaths nor DDs. I'm having questions

but i havent been leaving cuz i give people (and myself) more chances cuz maybe they were playing extra safe on weapons

and needed some warmup pulls

also i got kicked previous party but then cleared next one. Kinda feels good

been stuck on m11s for 2 weeks

[limpid edge]

melees are boss relative right?

cuz hector does true north if first set spreads, br if second set spreads. Not sure if people follow the TN way

[worn bluff]

i’ve seen the second set both ways

tn or relative

[rapid whale]

o that spread

i thought you meant the axe tb/party

[limpid edge]

ive never done TN for those spreads, i just look at the hitbox

but he kinda moves in the middle so that might confuse people

[worn bluff]

relative makes more sense but it can also be kind of squishy in the corner

[limpid edge]

like near the end of puddles he rotates with the MT and some people might have pre-puddle orientation in mind

[low hearth]

why my food buff keep falling off in m12s

WTF

too many buffs?

[true beacon]

Food buff shouldn’t unless you reapply it mid-combat and it misses

[limpid edge]

im lettin the opps win

[low hearth]

maybe im clicking it off on accident

[sinful brook]

Your character just digesting the good real good

Big back day

[worn bluff]

popcorn isn’t very filling

[visual geyser]

Calm your fucking nerves dude

[vestal hollow]

popcorn is all sugar and carbs that's gonna fuck with your body

[thin tartan]

m11 pf

is just

ecliptic clear clear ecliptic ecliptic ecliptic clear ecliptic clear clear clear

holy fuck

theres nothing else

LOL

[tawdry delta]

Surely 780 min ilv pfs can clear m11s

[worn bluff]

780 gear without weapon is only like 1.5% gain over 775 or something

skill variance is going to be more than that

a decent number of 780 tome pieces are sidegrades to 770 penta too i think

[vestal hollow]

so i guess i should get full tome until i actually have bis

[low hearth]

mfs arguing over idyllic dream

https://klipy.com/gifs/agathasbike-fnaf

just whip out the macro bro

[river sequoia]

Is Aether P2 of M9S?

Well considered P2?

[true beacon]

What

[iron jewel]

there's no p2 for m9s.

[loud nymph]

m9s doesn't really have separate phases

[river sequoia]

Ah okay

[loud nymph]

you have the intermissions but people don't refer to before/after them as separate phases

[sinful brook]

It has phases as in there's different parts of the fight

But it's not a whole separate fight

[river sequoia]

Kk

[worn bluff]

it’s probably just that one video that calls it phase 2

[river sequoia]

Hector guide so

[worn bluff]

yeah he’s probably just putting sections for his video

[river sequoia]

Got to aether, died group disbanded after 8 pulls till coffin

Good progres tho

For the first day doing this

[true beacon]

What do you mean

Do you mean suck 1?

[river sequoia]

?

[loud nymph]

presumably aetherletting?

[river sequoia]

Ive never done M9S at all, and got to aetherletting within 3 pulls

With a group who has also never done M9s

Is that not progress or?

[worn bluff]

that’s not bad

once you get past the part after with the adds it should be clear soon after

[river sequoia]

Is it static usually for aether?

[loud nymph]

yes

[worn bluff]

yeah

[river sequoia]

Okay

Btw what does it mean by "static" for specific phases

[loud nymph]

for that, static just means you always drop your puddle at the same point

and it always makes the very middle of the arena safe

[river sequoia]

Static in general ik means a raid oriented group

[stray forge]

?????

[river sequoia]

Ight cool

[stray forge]

I thought you were older than me??? you might be half my age????

WTH

[river sequoia]

The adds phase is the towers?

Or hell in cell

[limpid edge]

adds phase do be phasin

[loud nymph]

add phase is the 2nd intermission

with the TB towers and, y'know, adds

[river sequoia]

Fails + Nails a DPS check?

[loud nymph]

Yes, it's largely a dps check

but also a "don't stand in stupid" check

[zealous meteor]

"static" usually means that the solution to a mechanic is always the same and doesn't change based on random chance/who gets targeted/etc

[true beacon]

If she does the final screech and any nails are still up by the third one during adds 2 it explodes

[zealous meteor]

you're doing m9s so i assume you're talking about static aetherletting. it just means that people always drop their puddles in the same spot, so the center is always safe, no matter what happens

[true beacon]

unless you dash too early

[sinful brook]

No it's still fine if you dash

If your angle is right

The safe spot is just a tad tighter feeling

[worn bluff]

usually when people use a strat that says “static” in the name, it’s something that has you stand in roughly the same spot no matter what the variation the mechanic gives you

[stray forge]

Aether closed

[worn bluff]

o someone already said that i’m slow

[stray forge]

And like a total of 9 pfs on primal

Guess I’m setting an alarm for like 5 am again

[limpid edge]

is hector's m12s identical to TF ?

[normal summit]

yes

[limpid edge]

nice i can just watch your video then

[normal summit]

plus mortal roles, which is used in NA, but I also show standard TF

[rain geode]

Most the melees I get dash so early they drop the the puddle in the center lol

[limpid edge]

also have you considered adding an addendum for the eclipse positioning? I hate it when both melee baits and #2 are both on the hitbox ring

made people gaslight me into thinkin gapclosing as tank was bad cuz they think the gapclose caused a double bait (or die from wildcharge)

[normal summit]

it's mentioned in one of the top comments, and I mention that I recommend groups discuss that and do it.

[limpid edge]

I try to move back after gapclosing

[stray forge]

Wth

[normal summit]

I try not to make minor changes (even if I think they're improvements) from the raidplan as the miscommunication can be deadly

[limpid edge]

yea it's true

peopel dont want to change from established raidplans , i couldnt convince anyone in the instance

[normal summit]

even with my addendum, you would still need to assume that many parties will not position well enough to allow you easy uptime after gapclosing, so a slight disengage as a tank is the safest bet

[rain geode]

M9S reclears have been hair pullingly annoying

[worn bluff]

hector learned that if he makes one deviation then PF will blame all of their problems on him

[limpid edge]

he already gets blamed for any variation anyway

[rain geode]

Changing constantly is annoying

[stray forge]

Like

3 m11s groups I joined in a row had arguments about what markers were what

There are like 5 diff sets of markers for 11 rn

[limpid edge]

i honeslty couldnt tell which marks are what, i just trust

peopole can use plugins to get the exact coordinates but we shouldnt need to use that to confirm

[vestal hollow]

yall are having issues with m9s reclears?

[normal summit]

changing is annoying, but the reluctance to change leaves PF with some poor strats that persits throughout the tier

[vestal hollow]

ive one pulled all of them

[normal summit]

DN rep 2 and the awful stack/defa positions at the start of idyllic are the main culprits this tier

[limpid edge]

how's your m12s p2 video goin? Having fun with idyllic dream?

[valid solar]

im 21

[stray forge]

Omggg you’re 1/3 my age

[valid solar]

1/3 doesnt sound right

[sinful brook]

Ambrosia is 63

Damn

[stray forge]

It’s true

[sinful brook]

Gamer hands

[rain geode]

It's a pros and cons that you have to weigh I'd generally rather do a harder strat I know but that only extends so far if I strategy is that much easier I'm generally willing to learn it loke static aetherletting

[valid solar]

static aetherletting is so good I forgot what the original strat was

was it just yolo and use eyes

[stray forge]

Rotate clockwise

Around the boss

[rain geode]

It was really bad

[jolly flume]

you go out in order with support/dps pairs and drop your thing on every cardinal/intercardinal following the rotation

it was pretty easy but yeah

[normal summit]

Still very early on in animating. Going to be late week 4 at the earliest.

[valid solar]

one person data hidden, one person no progress, one e couple with matching names, this is going to be excellent meteor prog

[limpid edge]

im fine w/ that. I'm a little slow this tier in PF , just starting m12s p1

[thin fox]

How do you even do a fight like m12s phase 2 where NA and EU basically do completely different strats for every mechanic

[valid solar]

do people in EU do hector

serious question

[thin fox]

I think the only overlap is that NA and EU for M12S phase 2 is rep2

[normal summit]

Currently planning on multiple videos

[stray forge]

Had an ecliptic prog earlier where person had their logs hidden

PL asked what their prog was and they said fresh ☠️

[normal summit]

Not as much as NA, but yes still, quite a lot.

[valid solar]

at least they're honest

[thin fox]

what is DN rep2 I'm curious to compare it

I only know clone zone

[normal summit]

same thing

[thin fox]

oh

[normal summit]

EU and NA use the same rep 2

[thin fox]

what's wrong with clone zone

[dull drum]

clone zone = rep 2

[thin fox]

yeah I know

I just didn't know that was also DN

[normal summit]

Banana Codex rep 2 is just a straight up improvement.

fixed positions for netherwrath near or far so you don't even have to check the cast, easier uptime, significantly less movement

[tired egret]

the bone clone zone

[normal summit]

also, the swap to using D as new North makes sorting out tethers a bit simpler too

[thin fox]

oh wow this rep2 is just obviously better yeah lol

[jolly flume]

the only part I genuinely care about is that it desyncs netherwrath from protean rewinds so people can stop getting doubled for fun

[normal summit]

but unfortunately, not PF standard

[jolly flume]

bc unfortunately just wasn't popular week 1 because doing it true north was more comprehensible and the benefits of west weren't obvious yet

[thin fox]

I think I still prefer DN rep1 but banana codex is definitely the superior rep2

[stray forge]

Why are they called proteans

[jolly flume]

protean wave

[thin fox]

reference to living liquid mechanic

called

^that

[stray forge]

Living liquid?

[thin fox]

alexander raid

heavensward

[stray forge]

Early boss or something?

[thin fox]

pepsiman

https://tenor.com/view/living-liquid-gif-24890201

[stray forge]

Oh ok

[dull drum]

i just figured it was to be in line with idyllic cause then that one you have to use true north right to sort out tether grabs right

[stray forge]

Bruh what the

😭

[thin fox]

basically the way names work in this game is when people see a mechanic or strat for the first time people just call it that forever

that's why we say snake prio cuz it was a prio invented for p8s snake mechanic

[jolly flume]

idyllic and rep 2 are both true north in that the clone spawn order is not relative

bc just happens to flip the resolutions 90 degrees because it ends up with better timings on things

[dull drum]

ic

[low hearth]

ok made it to the end of idyllic then died to the stored clone

evil ass mechanic bruh

[dull drum]

yeah you gonna need a macro for that

[thin fox]

if you see boomers say dynamo for donut and chariot for aoe those are nael mechanics from coils of bahamut

[dull drum]

i have bad brain

[stray forge]

I’ve literally never seen either of these in my life

[jolly flume]

just do the opposite of what you did for the tower dimension dodge

[low hearth]

oh

[thin fox]

its usually a thing ff boomers say

i.e. people who have been playing since arr

[jolly flume]

towers was west sides safe > final will be front back safe

and vice versa

[low hearth]

it was e/w safespot

ggs

[jolly flume]

man I can't believe I have to play the game again tomorrow

[low hearth]

long ahh mech bruh holy shit

[jolly flume]

my factory...

[fierce matrix]

Funny I say (B/D) marker safe and then middle safe if its the easy pattern

[stray forge]

Thanks for carrying me through last 30% of 11 in advance

[dull drum]

you’re doing monday reclears??

[stray forge]

Appreciated

[jolly flume]

we don't have intercard markers in static or pf so that's kinda meaningless

[fierce matrix]

But

[jolly flume]

monday is our second day yeah

[fierce matrix]

The platforms are on cards

[dull drum]

we dont either 👍

[jolly flume]

we raid thursday and monday 3h each for splits

[jolly flume]

oh I thought you meant the last clone

yeah same thing

[fierce matrix]

Yeah I just call whatever marker and then mid

And then I say Marker unsafe

And then sides of N

There is also a safe spot like

[low hearth]

Idyllic lowkey easy if no one trolls the damn defams

[fierce matrix]

Right at the intersection of the white diamond

[low hearth]

Stack is brain off

[fierce matrix]

Its melee uptime :)

[jolly flume]

idyllic fucks with my head a little

because normally the prios for stuff are one group west and north other group south and east

so I have to actually turn my brain on for my defam spot

[stray forge]

I bet m12s easy

[low hearth]

First phase is

[stray forge]

We’ll see about this so called idyllic dream

After my ecliptic prog group finishes weapon prog

[jolly flume]

everything in the game is easy, just be good at it

[stray forge]

I should just reroll viper already

[jolly flume]

if you play viper you lose speaking rights

[stray forge]

I’m already reaper are u saying I had speaking rights?

This entire time?

[jolly flume]

only a little

as a treat

[dull drum]

holy shit i didnt realize cooly was banned from every country

💀💀💀

[jolly flume]

he's wanted by interpol for crimes against humanity (dogshit takes)

[rain geode]

The only thing I've learned about this game is that no job can speak

[jolly flume]

nah it's just dps players

[low hearth]

why mfs keep tryna push that uptime defmation stuff in pf @jolly flume

[jolly flume]

unless they play a rez caster

[loud nymph]

melee 🚫
phys ranged 🚫
pictomancers 🚫

white mages 🚫

[jolly flume]

I mean uptime defamation is like better for uptime it's just

an extra step to set it up that's maybe slightly less intuitive I guess

[low hearth]

its only like 1 gcd u lose just doing it normally

[jolly flume]

yeah I mean I don't care either way but ppl will always cry about uptime given the chance

[low hearth]

oh

[jolly flume]

there would be an uptime wroth flames strat where you just tank lb if cauterize didn't 1 shot you lol

everything gotta be uptime or melees cry

[dull drum]

the xiv killer is coming in 2027 team dont worry

[limpid edge]

wuthering waifus

[jolly flume]

xiv killer is already here it's called application for employment

[low hearth]

dang we sat there wiping to first defams for 80 minutes because someone couldnt look to the left and go to that cardinal

[rain geode]

The league mmo isn't coming out til way after that

[dull drum]

thats dead to me atp

[rain geode]

I think it's dead to everyone shits not out

[stray forge]

Shit

I haven’t logged into wuwa in like 5 days

[jolly flume]

I might have to start playing league in preparation to go to worlds this year no cap

[rain geode]

And probably won't be out until 2030 lmao

[stray forge]

Man I bet I completely missed an event

[dull drum]

[jolly flume]

you didn't

[dull drum]

solo queue = pf

[jolly flume]

nothing has been happening in wuwa

but I dread 3.1 bc I'll have to spend more than 5 mins per day again

[valid solar]

should I leave this pf

[random needle]

Blacklist number 2

[stray forge]

I’m so happy

[zealous meteor]

* The year is 2026.
* Civilization has advanced little in the past 25 years.

[stray forge]

I finally blacklisted people

It was like 4 ppl from midgardsormr

[normal blade]

I live in spain without the s

[stray forge]

They were nice but like I am never going through that again

[low hearth]

Tell Mfs to stop trolling orbital

[stray forge]

I feel like ppl who mess up orbital prob just have bad latency

But idk

[low hearth]

or maybe a tank invuln’d too early

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[jolly flume]

bad latency just means you move in sooner

it's still entirely consistent timing relative to yourself

[worn bluff]

i haven’t logged into wuwa since endfield

[jolly flume]

unless you legit get ping spikes out of the blue complaining about snapshots is almost always just skill issue

[jolly flume]

I've kept up but I'm losing the will to lol

[worn bluff]

i already wasn’t logging into wuwa much

i can’t keep up with more than one

[stray forge]

I mean idk I don’t have issues with orbital anymore lol

[jolly flume]

I'm still doing my dailies in case I go back to wuwa though

idk how endfield will turn out but the pull economy is pretty trash rn

and having expiring pulls is kinda scummy

as much as I like the game and the premise

[stray forge]

Rip

[dull drum]

i saw that yeah

[jolly flume]

none of that is problematic in concept on its own right but

a decent chunk of your pull income is pulls specific to the current banner that expire on banner change

but at the same time your pity doesn't carry across banners so you're discouraged from just pulling on everything

[limpid edge]

just dont pull!

[jolly flume]

thank you for your insightful comment

[limpid edge]

every gacha game i played where i felt i really wanted to pull for something, it usually ends in disappointment.

the lows feel so much more worse than the highs

[dull drum]

so what you’re saving is you cant even pool for a banner in the traditional sense where you save up the pulls

but you have to wait till a banner comes out with something you want

then start earning he pulls

[jolly flume]

you can pool but a chunk of your income per patch can't be

[dull drum]

ic

[worn bluff]

man the UI is cool but i can’t tell the difference between any currency

[jolly flume]

yeah apparently og ak was the same way lol

so much currency bloat

[worn bluff]

i’m not that interested in the launch six stars so i’m saving my currency (as soon as i figure out which thing is the currency)

last rite has a cool move set but why does she talk like that

[jolly flume]

every game gotta have a character like that

[jagged aspen]

😡

woah i got aglaia after 1.5 years

[worn bluff]

no one:
last rite: AHHHH i’m so embarrassed and shy

[jolly flume]

did you see her dialogue when you give her a gift yet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463269585649406122/1464426662392496241/image.png?ex=6977675c&is=697615dc&hm=7ce9fad99e8db188f7f158161cfe11425a136cd7363e03cf3b69d88b866bf73f&

cmon bruh

[worn bluff]

i think the best design so far is aywenna

[jolly flume]

I think ember looks cool af

shame she's useless

[worn bluff]

aywenna should have been 6 star

[jolly flume]

still waiting to see how the endgame is in this game

surely it isn't youneedtwoteamsslop

I'm so tired of that formula

[zealous meteor]

:)

i would be shocked if it wasn't

[worn bluff]

i’ll have to play some more and get my head around the currency to know if i’ll stick around

it’s sounding not great right now

wuwa seemed ok

[jolly flume]

if we're being generous it's overly complex

if we're not, it's obfuscation to get people to fuck up their pull economy and spend

[zealous meteor]

we should not be generous to a gacha game dev though

it's definitely obfuscation

[true beacon]

The individuals maybe, like community managers

[jolly flume]

eh I mean it wouldn't be the first time a gacha fucked up big time and corrected it soon after but

they get one or two patches of goodwill from me

and after that my opinion is set in stone

[clear plume]

“Endmin”

[thin fox]

its crazy how its illegal to make a gacha game with a good UI

which is why none of them have one

[thin fox]

yeah youre an Edministrator

[clear plume]

Holy cringe

[valid solar]

the company is called endfield

so instead of admin

you're endmin

[clear plume]

Even team rocket is more serious with its admins

[zealous meteor]

endfield sucks because you play as a CEO

[clear plume]

I thought ur an admin

[zealous meteor]

pretty sure you're called the leader of endfield multiple times?

so basically CEO

[jolly flume]

you play as albert einstein if he owned amazon

[clear plume]

I don’t think Albert Einstein would call himself an endmin

[jolly flume]

[zealous meteor]

yeah he'd call himself einmin

[worn bluff]

idk the whole thing with stuff not carrying over seems pretty intentional

and will prob lead to me spending less not more

bc i don’t feel like participating if i get less characters for the money

[valid solar]

somehow this party was rather consistent and saw arena split twice

[fierce matrix]

Bro gacha is fucked up big time as a concept smh

[worn bluff]

best “gacha” was xenoblade 2 because pulls were all free

[thin fox]

damn cleanest c43 i've ever seen in my life

1 pull in and out

i still suck

[stray forge]

Lmaooooo

Xenoblade 2

[winged spindle]

LET'S GOOOO TEAM

[rapid whale]

congrats

[rapid whale]

just a gear diff

[winged spindle]

And I got my pants !

[random needle]

That all you got? Nice knowing you, enhanced warriors!

[rapid whale]

huge

[loud nymph]

hell yeah

[dull drum]

now to venture into the pits of hell

m11s inner outer war

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-cat-gif-26380385

[clear plume]

11s can’t be bad if the guy who asked why people are saying TF in their pf disc instead of “something useful like waymarks” can clear after only 2 weeks

[trim frost]

the hardest part about 11 is the clueless, miserable fucks you’ll find yourself in parties with

[random needle]

MY BAD

[jolly flume]

sorry

:(

[rain geode]

Sowwy

[random needle]

Why did I read through the Idyllic raidplan instead of studying m11

[round burrow]

I want him.

😭

[winged spindle]

Take him then

You know what is so bad about the savage tier… why we can’t have the Lindwyrm as a mount reward

[worn bluff]

there’s not much to study in 11

the mechanics themselves are super simple it’s just execution

[random needle]

I suppose that's true

[winged spindle]

Yes

Once Valcors told me how to always succeed Orbital Omen
The fight became easy to me

It was the lone mechanic I struggled with

[worn bluff]

some people see enrage before they learn to do orbital omen

[stray forge]

Okay

Time for more 11 prog

[stray forge]

You ready to queue?

[trim frost]

fuh no

[wicked delta]

You are not allowed to ride the worm

[winged spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-toy-story-buzz-lightyear-gif-14664723

[dapper zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zDm2BnkjKqY

[winged spindle]

Tbh when I saw the car

I immediately reacted "If it’s the mount we get, I cry" bruh

[jagged aspen]

we had a bike, a car... and another car?

[dapper zealot]

the savage mounts this expac have been

something

[jagged aspen]

though tbf we already have 3428798 worm mounts

so 2 cars is less crazy

[winged spindle]

But Lindwyrm look better than the others worm

[random needle]

You will ride the Alte Roite and you will like it

[trim frost]

ok but m12 car is peak

[rain geode]

My only complaint with the m12 car is its not a 2 seater

[winged spindle]

I do

[winged spindle]

But we already have cars

[jagged aspen]

huh since when i cant accept queue during cutscene?

[rain geode]

Tbf there's a lot you can do with cars

[winged spindle]

We need a Duck 🦆

[random needle]

Some cutscenes don't let you do that

[jagged aspen]

so why does the game penalize me then, thats absurd

[random needle]

There's usually a warning like "The following scene cannot be skipped. You may wish to cancel any pending Duty Finder registrations."

[trim frost]

but do you have a car with a kitty cat in the passenger seat

[winged spindle]

"They see me rollin’ they hatin’"

[jagged aspen]

nope there wasnt any

[trim frost]

most times this occurs they’ll give you a verbal warning that it might take a while and you should probably cancel your duty finder registrations

oh

ok thanks discord mobile

i love not seeing messages

[jagged aspen]

it didnt take a while. just long enough to brick the queue

[trim frost]

what cs was it

[jagged aspen]

EW AR quests

[trim frost]

hmm

[jagged aspen]

maybe because cutscene triggers on entering the area so theres no npc that starts it

[trim frost]

could be

oh well it’s not like you got an instant lockout from duty finder

[dapper zealot]

were you a different job from what you queued?

@zealous meteor

also nice name

[low hearth]

mfs trolling rep 1 now

https://tenor.com/view/speed-mad-angry-ishowspeed-sheisty-gif-13492318246358992086

[craggy marsh]

aight m11 starting to get boring for me

I liked the first half for awhile

but now i'm getting numb to the weapons

[winged spindle]

My MT clipped our M11S clear on YT

Thanks I didn’t get any DD or fail

[zealous meteor]

what the helly

[jagged aspen]

did it work

[zealous meteor]

it better not have

[dapper zealot]

potato pizza

[rapid whale]

True and real

[stray forge]

It is boring

So boring

[low hearth]

made it to m12sp2 enrage

There's so many of them... Stay strong, I beg you!

[mossy eagle]

Man I have some bad news for you

[random needle]

I think I've studied enough to start m11 but I feel nervous

https://tenor.com/view/upset-cat-cry-rain-sad-gif-7957269375414682807

[mossy eagle]

Don't worry you'll quickly realize your party is worse 🙂

What role do you play?

[low hearth]

Be ready to show him your footwork

[mossy eagle]

Yeah it's mostly a matter of learning proper greed/when to use instants

[low hearth]

weapons prob annoying asf on caster

[mossy eagle]

melees do a lot of dipping and weaving on weapons based on when he teleports, I assume it's similar for casters

weapons is actually kind of fun when you greed the shit out of it ngl

and I'm a certified safety gamer

[low hearth]

greed 1 gcd or wipe the raid

[mossy eagle]

You won't wipe the raid if you simply greed properly 🙂

(and part of learning that is understanding that if you clipped your GCD 20 seconds ago, you'll probably die on sword if you try to greed, etc. Time and a place and all that)

[random needle]

I shouldn't be this nervous considering I basically prog skipped m10 from fresh straight to arena split, but I still am

[boreal pumice]

i think you are because you seen so many horror stories and dont want to be part of them , but you made the effort to learn now its just time apply it

[random needle]

And yeah, people talk a lot about sword > scythe being pain

[low hearth]

m11s lowkey easy too

[random needle]

I should at least make some prog tonight/tomorrow

[low hearth]

arena split you just stand on the corner of the waymark 💀

[random needle]

Reclearing m9 and 10 should be light work on Tuesday, especially if I can get a tome weap first

[stray forge]

You will enter m11s and get stuck on weapons prog for 20 hours

Split? Nope, weapons prog. Ecliptic? Nope, weapons prog.

Basically just hop in fresh you got this

[random needle]

Sounds like how it's always snaking prog in m10

[worn bluff]

it was fun the first 20 times

[stray forge]

Greeting is fun but when you die you also die irl a little bit so I stopped doing it

[worn bluff]

sword isn’t bad to greed. it has a decent size corner of max melee that’s safe

axe technically has a tiny safe spot in max melee but it’s basically impossible to see where it is

[stray forge]

Scythe the one that gets the blood pumping

[random needle]

Sword and axe seem fine

[sleek moon]

late but whenever this happens to me i start making a lot mistakes, i start auto piloting

[random needle]

Scythe is going to kill me so so so often

[stray forge]

No it’s not

Your teammates will during scythe tho

[limpid edge]

sword to scythe could be a scary one if it's long distance

depending on how it rotates and what side you're on

[sleek moon]

g2 sword to scythe going ccw

[worn bluff]

scythe as ranged is easy. melees sometimes have time to hit the previous weapon once before going to the scythe

[sleek moon]

basically running almost west to east

shitty ass mechanic

[clear plume]

or g1 for every other version of it that can exist

[stray forge]

I feel like usually (idr which class has this) but whatever class has the movement ability usually saves it for those moments

[clear plume]

(including the 2 that thats forced to exist)

[stray forge]

Expedience

[random needle]

Scholar

[stray forge]

Yeah so I’ve never really had issues with getting to any configs

[sleek moon]

i had the holy grail once, i think it was scythe sword axe axe sword scythe

[random needle]

I lowkenuinely wish I was on Scholar this tier

[sleek moon]

and i was m2

basically stand mid-ish the entire time

rotating my camera

looking at g1 struggle

[low hearth]

is the m11 dps check still cooked?

or is it like free now

[worn bluff]

the last 4 weapons of ulti weapons are a little closer together at least

[sleek moon]

it will be cooked until people get relic weapons or something

[low hearth]

oh

[limpid edge]

uncleard parties yes

0 chest parties much more doable

or reclears

[dull drum]

its free with human players

[low hearth]

oh

[dull drum]

“human”

[low hearth]

think a bot could clear that fight 🤔

[limpid edge]

yea cuz they'll press buttons better

[sleek moon]

i mean people bot ultimates

[random needle]

A well-made bot could clear most fights I think

[low hearth]

but yea the dps check should be fine if mfs arent noobing out

[random needle]

https://imgur.com/a/nSr7bPx

[worn bluff]

polarizingpaths.gif

there it is

[loud nymph]

idk how I never saw the MCH the first time I saw that gif haha

[low hearth]

back to lindwurm looper

https://klipy.com/gifs/go-to-sleep-anime-2

[random needle]

Can you imagine being the MCH in that scenario and realizing the bot is broke

[boreal pumice]

caught

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1277631130094403681/1308554573685723166/IMG_7729.gif?width=495&height=338

[random needle]

Which mechanic was this again

[low hearth]

thats from m4s

i think

[sleek moon]

when 3 people die to damage and the healers "had nothing"

[vapid path]

Nah that's not m4s

[loud nymph]

I can't think of anything from m4s that would be

[sleek moon]

(p1 curtain call into tethers)

healers allergy to gcd healing should be studied

[loud nymph]

fucking hell

[random needle]

Put the Succor in the bag

[vapid path]

"Sorry guys no heals" the gcd heals that haven't gone out in question

[loud nymph]

mb I didn't have aspected helios on my bars

[random needle]

Not even for Horoscope 💀

[worn bluff]

ad a sch who used soil twice in 4 minutes in phase 1

maybe it’s the same one

[random needle]

Soil might genuinely be my favorite button on SCH

[west zephyr]

Should've parried it

[stray forge]

okay

what time should I sneak onto aether tonight

[limpid edge]

yesterday

[stray forge]

🙏 everyone go to sleep early for work tomorrow

[low hearth]

?

[stray forge]

I was there yesterday I had to come back to primal for static

[sleek moon]

its gonna be open in like 8-12h

[low hearth]

w*rk

[stray forge]

this time i'm really gonna --

i dont want to wait that long

pls senpai the light at the end of the tunnel to M12....

[sleek moon]

there are times during prog i feel like i should have taken this tier off as well

[boreal pumice]

think this was m3 when all the miqos + lala got a temp ban

[low hearth]

oh

[dull drum]

gonna need lifestream buddy

[limpid edge]

can i clear m12s p1 in one day in pf?

havent started yet

looked at hector's guide while eatin dinner. Looks like Act 2 is the only one that needs a lot of going over

[worn bluff]

the rest is pretty simple yeah

act 3 takes a little study but not bad

[limpid edge]

im terrible at reading ordered debuffs and remembering the timing and order of my task

[worn bluff]

there’s a cheat sheet for it

[limpid edge]

like limit cut

[low hearth]

like an hour if ur playing with people with a pulse

also people need to be clean or you just enrage gg

[limpid edge]

hmm clean part will take some time

m11s enrage took up 40% of the pulls

[worn bluff]

for act 2 as beta i count each spin after the voice line. then each tower will spawn after the spin (assuming tether breaks correctly)

as alpha the towers spawn in a set pattern once you see the first tower

[low hearth]

mfs making the shield healers rage quit phase 1

now we gotta wait 40 minutes for another holy shit

[jolly flume]

mb

i was angy

[dull drum]

if i was angry on ffxiv

id get a 3 days in jail

[jolly flume]

been there done that

[west zephyr]

I got angry once

Need to say, for what it was, it was worth it

[stray forge]

wat

[west zephyr]

Lifestream is a world swap plugin

[stray forge]

what are all of these sekret plugins

[limpid edge]

yoshi's secret stash of plogons

[west zephyr]

Not really secret anymore if even I know about it to be honest

[stray forge]

also holy fuck that moment you take a break and return to raid and all of a sudden you can't play for shit

or maybe its internet cause it feels like im getting clipped by everything

lets try vpn

[jolly flume]

that's why you never take breaks

never shower

never wash your hands

all that is reduced gaming performance

[trim frost]

never let the opps win

[jolly flume]

so true bestie

[stray forge]

I can't do anything if I feel filthy

showering lowkey out here improving performance

[quick verge]

showering reduces drag which interferes with optimal gaming stance

[trim frost]

ugh what a drag