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finite plank
thin fox
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ig i should start studying p2

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what the hell does NA do for p2

finite plank
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100-130 pulls might be the average for pf to clear p2

thin fox
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actually no

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ignore strats

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wtf does he even do in p2

finite plank
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memory checks you

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figure out how dark/fire works by using your body

thin fox
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i need to watch a guide that just explains the actual mechanics

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oh hey

finite plank
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that's just the tyrant

thin fox
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very funny

dull drum
thin fox
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is replication the first mechanic

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idk what anything in p2 is called

dull drum
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ye

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it goes replication -> replication 2 (some unfunny person thought to call it clone zone) -> superchain theory -> idyllic -> enrage

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plus some raidwides and crap between the usual

thin fox
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ok i'm looking at a video

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i have no idea what's going on

dull drum
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🫡

finite plank
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yeah... it should be the reason why p1 is easy

lyric summit
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finally free Bedge

finite plank
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grats on the freedom

lyric summit
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healer lb3 on idyllic clear

finite plank
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i am going to guess the weapon

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summoner

lyric summit
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it was actually useful picto

finite plank
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oh, same as my reclear today

limpid edge
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evi lspleen

finite plank
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evil spleen?

stray forge
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evil sphene

worn bluff
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on act 2, does he always spin ccw?

jolly flume
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yuh

worn bluff
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and does it do damage to everyone inside each spin like normal mode? or can you just stay in there as long as you want as beta?

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til the end

jolly flume
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no damage

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just dont touch him

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when he spins

worn bluff
stray forge
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touch him

quick verge
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have you played monster hunter

worn bluff
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yes

quick verge
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do you know that attack najarala does

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where it spins

stray forge
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touch biscuit

quick verge
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touching it while it spins is bad

worn bluff
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nop

finite plank
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i think

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im pretty sure it doesnt, only when you're touching does it actually apply damage

worn bluff
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oh weird

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so i could just be dancing inside the whole time in normal

finite plank
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it does less turns in normal compared to savage

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i think

worn bluff
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savage is 7 turns after he gets into place?

finite plank
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also, the exit is on the intercards on normal

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maybe, i only start counting after looper starts

worn bluff
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i think it's 1 turn of nothing and then 6 turns before he hugs you

finite plank
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2 turns of nothing

quick verge
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smth like that

worn bluff
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oh i wasn't counting when he goes into the circle

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but i guess that's a spin too

quick verge
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mechanic start then spin

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spin

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spin 4x

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spin

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yoink?

low hearth
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tfti

worn bluff
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and i guess as beta you always go directly opposite for both of your moves right

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like if your first move is E then the other one is W

finite plank
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you stay in the coil until you resolve your mechanic

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once 1 starts, start the count to 4 turns

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take your tower in the 3412 form

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do not be near people breaking their tethers, it causes a small aoe

worn bluff
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yeah i just mean within the coil

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like if i'm IV and have to go S to grab II's tower, i know after 2 more spins i'll be going N for my tether break/tower drop

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i tink

echo ibex
stray forge
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Wth is this

boreal pumice
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sounds like tryant is doing the fucking here

echo ibex
finite plank
jagged aspen
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this sums up my luck

finite plank
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rip

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i blew my 99 on a raid chest piece that was det dh for scouting when i needed legs and didn't know

rain geode
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Still not feeling well fml I just wanna raid

finite plank
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your datacenter isn't dead and still speaks english at least

boreal pumice
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but your on jp

finite plank
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yeah... we have a problem in jp

jagged aspen
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i blew my 99 on pct brush on a character that doesnt have pct

finite plank
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literally everyone is going to mana and im praying to god they pick uptime idyllic

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while the unofficial en server is... kind of... dead

stray forge
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Why is it impossible to tag chiyo here

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Oh right his tag is salty

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@jolly flume found a Valentine’s Day idea for u vro

finite plank
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what used to be peak hour are just a few bare raiders and OCE has a higher pf count compared to elemental

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that's... how "greedy" the situation by the players are to travel to mana

rain geode
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on the bright side reclears this week put me to 780

finite plank
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it's basically a en learning center for g8 strats before going to mana atp

stray forge
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I think my static will finally have

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8 memebers

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For the first time since last week

worn bluff
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there's a PF that says "fresh dreamers. don't prog lie or troll p1"

i wonder if they will get a p1 fresh person who only read the beginning and then have to reform

finite plank
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anad sometimes to avoid very questionable strats chosen by g8

stray forge
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If someone is absent again idc anymore im progging without them

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💢

finite plank
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the plus side is g8 did indeed choose the just mit option for train ex...

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m9s is snake prio instead of clock

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not that bad, we can deal with it

rain geode
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Losing most of this week to sickness Im hoping for a week like 5-6 clear now

finite plank
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and wm aetherletting

rain geode
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Ive heard some people say you can do clocks for M9S but is there not a pattern that would absorb both tanks? since one of the spreads is a tank buster iirc

finite plank
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no

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one tank will be north and the other is always south

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spreads are role and as long as it's not overlapping even if it hits caged people, they'll live

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just mit and heals are needed because caged people are taking dot

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s

stray forge
rain geode
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and this feels like a "last day of being sick" anyway

finite plank
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alley-oop ocmbo is... instead of role priority, we're doing some bizarre... first spread melees, 2nd spread ranged, stacks healers prio

stray forge
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Last year was the first time I got ill and it became a different illness just when I started feeling better so now I’m constantly terrified

finite plank
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m11s is... instead of making the melees deal with the meteors first so tb meteors are easier to grab, we're making the healers deal with it first and building the meteor from the corner instead into range > melee which makes tb meteors downtime

rain geode
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I havnt had the chance to touch M11S yet so no comment

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This should be my second day of doing it but my body had other plans

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Assuming I feel better tomorrow should still get like 2 and a half days of doing probably wont clear this week but should comfortably get it done next week

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Which means Im probably going for a wekk 5-6 clear?

rapid whale
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yeah usually clear rate accelerates since gear becomes a factor

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surely the 11s clear isnt bad with 3 weeks of loot

low hearth
rapid whale
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yea

low hearth
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its kind of easy bro

rapid whale
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dps check shouldnt be as bad as initially heard about

quick verge
low hearth
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after weapons its free yo

rain geode
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can I do it in 2 and a half raid days? Maybe?

echo ibex
low hearth
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the only wall is like arena split and all u do is stand on a waymark

rain geode
rain geode
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Just annoying to lose another raid day

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Still get Friday Monday and half of Saturday tho

finite plank
low hearth
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took me like 29 hours fbfunni

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c46

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that was fun

finite plank
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you have to mit and do dmg

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there is a lot of damage

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every crown of arcadia hurts

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overmit, lose lb

echo ibex
finite plank
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undermit, die

rain geode
rain geode
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we'll see

finite plank
rain geode
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So far Ive been managing 90%+ pretty consistently on healer but I hear M11S has a lot of movement

rapid whale
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ya it's hard enough that a lot of ast unironically swapped to whm just for the dash/free movement healing

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if only for that fight

finite plank
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lightspeed tho

rapid whale
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ppl asked for match up dependent bis and we're getting it

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have to save 1 for the 2min

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sword sword scythe and you just cry

rain geode
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My ass is out here pressing Ruin II

rapid whale
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yea p much

dapper zealot
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Is there a way to disable the security notification every time you open ACT?

jagged aspen
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what security

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UAC?

dapper zealot
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yeah

jagged aspen
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dont run it as admin

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or wait idk if it works

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yea nvm mine does it too

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well, you can disable UAC altogether, but its usually not a great idea

daring pine
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@rapid whale baple

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i summon thee

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gay little hyur

rain geode
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Lol

rapid whale
daring pine
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m9

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save me

rapid whale
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I have like two hours

dapper zealot
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ez one pull clear

rapid whale
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which pt

visual geyser
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Never let the opps win is the best part of m12

rapid whale
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am i fake melee or something i assume sapph joining

random needle
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Debating if I'm up for throwing myself back at m9 tonight or nah

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I'm already a little tilted today because Walmart is a fuck, but that's beside the point

rain geode
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Do it

rapid whale
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t'ew it

low hearth
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the opps are winning...

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everything burns...

daring pine
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trust

rapid whale
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which pt

echo ibex
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Why no one can be from EU to help smh

shy obsidian
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good luck ya peeps!!!

rapid whale
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skill issue

shy obsidian
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im stuck in an evening class unfortunatelyyyyyyyy

rapid whale
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should be studying mechanics instead smh /s

low hearth
rapid whale
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where the pf

rapid whale
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better hurry cuz someone js asked me to help 11

echo ibex
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Get real

daring pine
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vro

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its in private tab

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fire emoji

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oh nvm i think a caster is coming already

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go do m11 bapple

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👀

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@low hearth what r u playing

rapid whale
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oka

daring pine
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LOOL BAPPLE

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😭 how did you guess that

shy obsidian
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are ya two chesting?

daring pine
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anychest

shy obsidian
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zamn

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have yall cleared yet

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like, at all

daring pine
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no

shy obsidian
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zamn

daring pine
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i've just been pfing it

sinful brook
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well unfortunately

shy obsidian
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once you get that first clear, don't you just love how easy the raid is in (Duty Complete) parties???

daring pine
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well

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yes

random needle
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Go on, keep rubbing it in

shy obsidian
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wishing yall the best

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I just wanna raid with yall so badddd

daring pine
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i think i'll pass

shy obsidian
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when I'm available lol

sinful brook
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idk seems like general opinion is not reflective of that

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some sort of self-reflection is need though

jolly flume
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I feel like I'm watching some sort of shitty comedy rn

shy obsidian
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oh dear

low hearth
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light it up lets go

low hearth
daring pine
low hearth
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GIGACOOKED 👉 🐍

random needle
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"imma be real with you chief, the opps might be winning this one"

loud nymph
sinful brook
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but the opps won

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chiyo's literally called that

low hearth
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mfs arguing over spread spots instead of yolo spreading Classic

shy obsidian
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the first phase isn't too bad, right?

rapid whale
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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p1 took me the longest to break thru

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of this entire tier

shy obsidian
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zamn

rapid whale
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i think i got a lil unlucky th o cuz i got there late enough that all the ppl who won gear moved on to p2

shy obsidian
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how complicated is the second phase? watched it during the world first race and I was just. what

rapid whale
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so it was a bunch of pf with less gear than a standard static trying to clear p1

rapid whale
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like memorizing stuff from literally 3 minutes ago

shy obsidian
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god i'm scared on not getting gear
like, I'm not too concerned about accessories, but samurai requires FOUR Grand Champion clothes (for the skill speed I'm using)

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praying M10 is generous to me

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because I'm getting the majority of my gear and solvent from it lol

jolly flume
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who cares

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you pity it all from books eventually anyways and you dont need it to clear

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if it's parses you're after there's very low hanging fruit gameplay wise before you worry too much about gear although admittedly it's a rather significant difference

rapid whale
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ye and no shade if you aren't clearing early you prob arent in the category that seriously parses

rain geode
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With the rest of tonight Maybe Ill actually start on an alt

rapid whale
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alt raiding pog

shy obsidian
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It's not really about parses for me
it's mostly about just doing enough damage lolllll

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i worry that I won't do enough damage to clear sometimes lol

rain geode
shy obsidian
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I'M TRYINGGGGG ;-;

rapid whale
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damn tew hates the game

rain geode
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not gonna bother alt clearing this tier or anaything

sinful brook
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even parses aside

rain geode
sinful brook
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there's definitely still thigns that can be done to improve gameplay

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which naturally improves your parse lol

rain geode
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Not a slight against XIV game just eats a lot of time

shy obsidian
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so. what do you do for your alts
do you do the same job you main, or do you try other jobs?

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like, it's a personal thing, yeah, but I'm curious

whole estuary
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Just play another game while running Praetorium

rapid whale
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personally i have 3x pictos but thats cuz im a dirty one trick

shy obsidian
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I'm curious about red mage and black mage for my lalafell lol

rain geode
worn bluff
rain geode
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Although I typically prefer doing the story on melee

rain geode
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actually Ill keep leveling jobs on my main, since I dont know if I wanna be a lizzer or a hyur on my alt

jolly flume
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lizzer is always the answer

loud nymph
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femroe

shy obsidian
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elezen :(

zealous meteor
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lala :)

rain geode
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Femroe and Elezen arent bad but not really my style

normal blade
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For Great Wall of Fire in m11s. How much mit do I need to use?

rain geode
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I did make a lala but I decided against using it

zealous meteor
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popoto :)

sinful brook
shy obsidian
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unauthorized fucking thing

rain geode
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I made like 6 characters to maybe be my alt but I think I like these two the most

round burrow
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Does anyone know what book m9s drops?

shy obsidian
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it's for accessories

rain geode
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AAC Illustrated: HW Edition I

loud nymph
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savage books just allow you to buy the stuff the fight normally drops

round burrow
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thank you 🙂‍↕️

shy obsidian
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how's prog btw

round burrow
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Asking bc the set I'm looking at requires me to augment my bygone brass ring

rain geode
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Also as fun as tails are I think I want to have something without a tail to mess with some glam options that clip to hard with a tail

rain geode
visual geyser
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Man I can’t wait for 8.0

loud nymph
round burrow
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also progging is still in progress

visual geyser
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Finally getting our character customization update

shy obsidian
visual geyser
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Surely we get good hair

low hearth
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m11s pants

round burrow
low hearth
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GIGACOOKED 👉 📚

round burrow
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Noted

low hearth
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shy obsidian
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hmmm i wonder which job I should focus on after sammy

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dancer or dark knight... hmmmmmm

rain geode
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uh DNC

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for better glam options

round burrow
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So correct me if I'm wrong.
M9S drops the books for Accessories such as Grand Champion's Ring?

visual geyser
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DNC is boring asf

visual geyser
rain geode
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and I like to make my glams at least kinda work with the job

visual geyser
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DNC weapons are some of the worst in the game 😭

rain geode
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except my BLM glam which is pure memes

visual geyser
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Drk easily gets the best weapons it’s unfair tbh

dapper zealot
whole estuary
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DT giving us one (1) pair of fans is a good precedent

rain geode
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DRK has some good weapons for sure but like if Im playing DRK Im gonna be in at least medium weight armor

round burrow
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Thank you

worn bluff
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if you go to item exchange you can see what requires what book

shy obsidian
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I wanna do this for dark knight hehehehe

lavish mortar
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I'm looking at this thinking "man, my damage is ass"

worn bluff
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the number of the book corresponds to the floor

round burrow
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🙂‍↕️

lavish mortar
round burrow
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i need 3 books from m10s

lavish mortar
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And the other melee had the dance partner

round burrow
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For the bygone brass upgrade

lavish mortar
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despairge

worn bluff
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welcome to FF14’s awesome gearing

low hearth
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light it up

worn bluff
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if you’re unlucky enjoy reclearing for months to gear multiple jobs

lavish mortar
worn bluff
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man i just started m12 why does everything hurt so much

shy obsidian
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because it BURNS

worn bluff
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i forgot sheltron and died

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wtf

shy obsidian
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how hellish is mitigation for this tier

jolly flume
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doorboss is piss easy but it does hit like a bag of bricks

lavish mortar
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the fixer literally does 410k what were you expecting???

rain geode
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I have this generic heavy armor thing I made awhile ago I might mess with the colors and make it my DRK glam

lavish mortar
jolly flume
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it's called the fixer because it fixes bad healers

lavish mortar
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M11S got hands I think

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then M12S is literally not an issue of bad healing because everything in that fight needs to follow a mit plan cuz u just die otherwise

worn bluff
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mortal slayer timing changing while my 30s come up and sheltron having 4s extra mit

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i kind of hate it

lavish mortar
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it's not bad healing it's like you didn't press divination

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-10000000 rdps

worn bluff
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i’ve only seen up to act 2 but so far it seems like… mit checks, P6S, and looper

dull drum
shy obsidian
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dang
do other savage fights usually have spreadsheets or is the Lindwurm just that evil?

low hearth
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no only lindwurm

shy obsidian
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damnnnn

jolly flume
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lindwurm casts 1 thing that hurts a lot so every team that doesnt have sch/pld immediately falls over

shy obsidian
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DAMN????

sinful brook
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yeah its cooked

jolly flume
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its not that tight bruh

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just press mit

sinful brook
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my pld swapped to gnb

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this week

jolly flume
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but thats a foreign concept to pf

daring pine
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@low hearth im free

sinful brook
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im just gonna prayge for gear

shy obsidian
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paladin is just ez mode in every aspect, huh

worn bluff
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pld comfy

daring pine
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lowkey i dced mid fight and i exploded at the end but its ok

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i didnt get any dds i think

worn bluff
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can’t get a DD if you’re dead. big brain

daring pine
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the dcing fucked up my songs loll

shy obsidian
low hearth
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now u gotta enter m10s fbfunni

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i think bard is goated in that fight

jolly flume
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oh shit

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I beat pity on endfield

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30 pulls 6 star

daring pine
jolly flume
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im getting the rope

thin fox
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wtf is this i heard its a factory builder??

trim frost
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this feels like a very underdeveloped character design

jolly flume
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hes a standard banner ssr

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nobody cares about him

shy obsidian
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oh dats a guy

zealous meteor
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you can tell because he doesn't have tits the size of his head

worn bluff
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is this guy the lingyang of endfield?

jolly flume
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I dont think hes quite that useless

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just by virtue of being a pseudo support

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but hes definitely among the least useful in the standard pool

round burrow
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Not useless but barely useful

loud swift
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for people selling all the materia on marketboard, do they get it from cosmic credit farming or do they just get a ton of scrips?

jolly flume
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you get materia crystals from hunts and dailies

shy obsidian
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probably from cosmic credits, I suppose

jolly flume
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assuming you do hunts and dailies

shy obsidian
loud swift
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yeah you get combat ones from dailies

jolly flume
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I only read the first half of the sentence

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I'm an xiv player

boreal pumice
loud swift
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unfortunately im using the 750 scrip gear rn which i cant pentameld

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gold thumb and crested too expensive rn

shy obsidian
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Superior Spiritbond Potion to the rescue!!!

low hearth
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New cosmic planet finna go crazy yo

vestal hollow
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#kupo-bot-spam is down there

thin fox
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??? I am suddenly taking so much fucking more damage on this buster

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in this party

low hearth
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aquaveil 😝

stray forge
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wth was that

boreal pumice
dapper zealot
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I got hit too

pine holly
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Half of my static is out

limpid edge
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any hitters?

pine holly
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I'm just chillin

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We almost cleared M11 too

limpid edge
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vpns still workin?

pine holly
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I forgot to have WARP on

finite plank
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oh hey, there's a big dead spot for oce

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...

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you guys dc'd at na?

limpid edge
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big red

finite plank
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the fuck?

flint ledge
limpid edge
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can i just clear m11s in pf please

shy obsidian
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yknow ever since I got WARP i've literally had no DDOS-related disconnects
the only disconnect I had was on my end only

finite plank
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!faq datacenterip

storm frostBOT
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List of IP Addresses for each Datacenter

North America
Aether: 204.2.29.6
Primal: 204.2.29.7
Crystal: 204.2.29.8
Dynamis: 204.2.29.9

Europe
Chaos: 80.239.145.6
Light: 80.239.145.7

Japan
Mana: 119.252.37.8
Gaia: 119.252.37.7
Elemental: 119.252.37.6
Meteor: 119.252.37.9

Oceania
Materia: 153.254.80.103

How do I ping the IP?

Windows: Open Command Prompt and type ping *insert IP Address here*
Mac: Open Terminal and type `ping insert IP Address here

flint ledge
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i would say we did

low hearth
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wow ddos

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cloudfare warp diff btw

finite plank
stray forge
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no i didnt dc

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i just got the lag spike

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am blessed

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no vpn on

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👼

echo ibex
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Another plane has hit PF

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I'm sorry future people

finite plank
dapper zealot
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0 goddamn

low hearth
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releasing 12k healers into the wild

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gg

finite plank
rapid whale
dull drum
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66% uptime in healer

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might as well jump

rapid whale
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but wait

echo ibex
rapid whale
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surely thats meant to be an 8:30 fight for actual parsing

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or did you guys go for the 3 pot strat

echo ibex
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They didn't even die

echo ibex
rapid whale
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ya isnt it just sand bag

thin fox
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I am taking

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so much more fucking damage

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in this party

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than the last one

rapid whale
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EVERYTHING BURNS

echo ibex
rapid whale
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o..

echo ibex
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or c42 i dunno

rapid whale
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u released a monster into pf gg

echo ibex
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Yup.

rapid whale
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theres community service but u did community disservice

thin fox
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damage snapshot in this game is SO fucking shit by the way

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i love when i hit bloodwhetting

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the buffs appear on my character

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THEN the damage comes out

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but

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oops

rapid whale
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deserved for playing war

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deserved for playing war

thin fox
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the damage was calculated fucking 4 score and 7 years ago

rapid whale
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deserved for playing war

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deserved for playing war

thin fox
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and it didn't actually count

#

and i die to mortal slayer

jagged aspen
#

ddos again?

thin fox
#

dude tanks

#

NEED

#

help

#

but god forbid

#

healers spare

#

1 ogcd

rapid whale
#

o are you getting no help on the tb orbs

#

they fucking hate you

thin fox
#

i don't get help on ANYTHINGGG

rapid whale
#

@dull drum yo laugh at inx

thin fox
#

how do i see what buffs i had when i took something

rapid whale
#

in log or in death recap ig

dull drum
#

i dont even know if i get help on orbs

#

because target mit doesnt work on it

#

lol

#

ive been reprisaling the first slayer for nothing

rapid whale
#

surely ur getting some kinda dr

dull drum
#

well yeah my own mit

rapid whale
#

soil and kera no

dull drum
#

hoc is kinda a cheat though

#

i think for the first set yeah

#

the second slayer i dont think so

rapid whale
#

peeposcared

thin fox
#

lol

#

lol

dull drum
#

warrior is kinda fresh out of luck

#

they need help bad

#

the other tanks can prob handle it

#

nebula + hoc im usually bing chilling

thin fox
#

dude no wonder i don't fucking take damage in the other party

#

LOOK AT ALL THIS MIT

thin fox
#

dude i hate this game

lavish mortar
#

Name a more iconic duo

rapid whale
#

linked to no characters

limpid edge
#

hello

thin fox
#

why do we invuln the broken arena busters again

rapid whale
#

cuz u can soak an extra hit

#

tb + "6 closest targets spread" thing

thin fox
#

so my mit plan is worse so that melees can be lazy and not move?

rapid whale
#

healers mostly but ye

limpid edge
#

does rep usually work on towers?

rapid whale
#

idt so

#

since the dmg comes from the "pet"aka tower no?

thin fox
#

because honestly i' would really rather just do

#

kitchen sink slayer

#

holmgang double

#

kitchen sink dragon

#

kitchen sink slayer

rapid whale
#

idk enough about tank stuff to debate so im just gonna say

#

deserved for playing war

thin fox
#

cuz i don't wanna leave my mit to rng

#

i mean

rapid whale
#

damn is it that bad

thin fox
#

dying to double buster when i have 40%+short is literally not even war issue

#

i would have the same mit

#

on other tanks

rapid whale
#

i had heard war was squishy before but i didnt think it was that harsh

thin fox
#

no healer in NA can do 1 slidecast

#

yeah Im not invulning this shit Im doing my own mit plan

#

@jolly flume do you have a full timeline of this fight

#

tf raidplan has like half a timeline

#

i need to know when exactly the dragon buster is

#

asking u since i think u usually end up making one in ur static ?

finite plank
#

3:47?

thin fox
#

just curious if 90s come back up

#

for mortal slayer 2

rapid whale
#

Isn't that actual RNG since you can be first orb

#

Surely it's not that deep tho

thin fox
#

I dont know hence my question!

rapid whale
#

MB

finite plank
#

mortal slayer's roughly 5:15?

#

it is possible for rampart to be back up

thin fox
#

actually I could probably holmgang both mortal slayers

finite plank
#

if you use it slightly earlier

thin fox
#

ok

#

here's the plan

#

I holmgang both mortal slayers

#

I kitchen sink double buster and dragon buster

limpid edge
#

holmgangerinos?

finite plank
#

i usually see them invuln the buster but i do not remember what war has for mit besides raw intuition

thin fox
#

actually that might be rng

jagged aspen
finite plank
#

does equil+ shake off count?

thin fox
#

idk the tank stuff jsut feels so tight in this fight

#

esp when I dont get help

finite plank
#

i am going to guess... raw + rampart + equil shake might be enough?

#

there should be a soil/kera as well

thin fox
#

nop

finite plank
#

i'll just go find a war rq

thin fox
#

like i was in a party before where mit was suiper comfy

#

cuz

#

there was other mit

#

i.e. people mitting properly

#

like e.g. at the end of act 1

#

if you hit target mit late it covers the stack+buster and the fixer

finite plank
#

that's what they had to live at half hp... a lot of mit

#

2nd mortal they just kitchen sinked

#

first stack tb they've just used 120 + short + party mits such as holos and panhaima

thin fox
#

yeah i had no buddy mit with a pld lol

#

no soil/kera

finite plank
#

yeah, pld is strong here with buffed intervention

limpid edge
#

hey pld so good yes!?

lavish mortar
#

holy fuck thursday reclear was a mistake

low hearth
#

dang these fucking shield healers dont exist in m12s

jagged aspen
limpid edge
#

loooooooong live the king

rapid whale
#

i like when they call us cattle

limpid edge
#

when can i join m12s groups so i can hear everything burns for several hours ?

#

and then p2 motif slop for several even more hours (i like the track btw)

#

i really like the vamp -> xtremese part, really hits

trim frost
#

war can just invuln some busters tbh

#

like invuln mortal or smth

limpid edge
#

i heard war is nice

trim frost
#

on war you can invuln either first mortal or visceral burst and then have it back for second mortal

#

other tanks i think it's fine to just invuln the dragon heads

stray forge
#

wowie it happened to me

#

the reclear party meme

worn bluff
#

i’m always jealous of WAR invuln

#

but unfortunately i don’t enjoy anything else about WAR

lavish mortar
#

I used to think I was bad

#

then I did thursday reclears

#

and realized that I'm actually not

#

I'm just regularly bad in comparsion to very good players

#

aka just a good player

#

😂

#

not again

thin fox
#

dude i went to go look up a drk pov in m12 and what the fuck did youtube try put me on

trim frost
#

its him

west zephyr
#

No sauce just 1 hp

limpid edge
#

are people trippin saying not to gapclose for the ecliptic fireball?

#

i gapclose and run back out, the baiters should still be in the hitbox

low hearth
limpid edge
#

how come

quick verge
#

you dont die unless the ppl in do shit wrong

#

which is not standing on/in the boss ring

#

gap close max melee is fine

quick verge
#

cooking

lavish mortar
#

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

#

I

#

chat how do I refund

low hearth
#

Yes, you've got the serpent on the back tail! Press the advantage and finish this! 🗣️

lavish mortar
#

I meant to crack this on my healer cuz it's bis there, welp

sleek moon
#

Just win another coffer

lavish mortar
#

i just took a piece of 790 gear out of the pf economy

#

like the value that could've had on a real healer

#

i take the gear cuz like

#

it's leveling gear for 8.x

#

but this is ummmmmm

#

yeah

#

it's something

worn bluff
true beacon
#

Use it for glam

limpid edge
worn bluff
#

gap close then back up to max melee

lavish mortar
#

somewhere out there one of my healers is cursing the stupid nin

true beacon
#

Dyes tho

lavish mortar
#

oh yeah i forgot this game is shit like that

fierce matrix
lavish mortar
#

what does the set even look like I wonder hmmmm

worn bluff
#

cones don’t give vuln?

#

or are you double invulning pepothink

lavish mortar
#

I think I actually found a more iconic duo

limpid edge
stray forge
#

didnt win anything from 10 Sadge

limpid edge
#

but if i gapclose yea i'll max melee anyway just in case

stray forge
#

I rolled 30-39 on EVERYTHING

#

cursed

lavish mortar
#

i got the same weird shit searching for fixed stampede

#

I won the glaze on a 68

limpid edge
#

gimme dat glaze

rain geode
#

I won the weapon

#

the tome weapon

lavish mortar
#

I'm cooking now chat

stray forge
lavish mortar
#

Gotta love melee uptime strats that make it 2x as complicated for healers/ranged

#

I rolled an 85 on tome weapon item then remembered I already had one with like

quick verge
#

this is just how priorities work

lavish mortar
#

almost no chance of me using it

#

like yeah it's technically best

#

but also

low hearth
#

alt job bro

lavish mortar
#

meh

stray forge
#

hax it to my inven

lavish mortar
#

my sub runs out in 7 days

stray forge
#

you fucker

lavish mortar
#

I would actually just sell it LMAO

#

if it was sellable

low hearth
#

never let the opps win...

#

m4s lowkey harder than ts ngl

lavish mortar
#

bro I gotta get a job

fierce matrix
lavish mortar
lavish mortar
stray forge
#

why am i so ass at this fight vro

fierce matrix
lavish mortar
#

y'all like having to sub multiple times a patch???

fierce matrix
#

Understanding complex mechs arent simple fixes

fierce matrix
#

On top of that gear scales

stray forge
#

I used to be like this

#

literally from SHB -> this patch

lavish mortar
#

Honestly I never realized that most people actually just stay subbed until they're through with the savage tier

#

wow

stray forge
#

I just started raiding, before I would play through story and then quit

lavish mortar
#

which, like

sleek moon
lavish mortar
#

Yeah maybe I would stay subbed for an entire tier

#

If there was literally anything else I wanted to do in the game

#

other than savage

#

I mean I got like

#

big fish grind, that's not bad

sleek moon
#

relic grind next week

fierce matrix
#

I dont think ive unsubbed from this game for like 7 years

lavish mortar
#

nah, I'm not big into glam

fierce matrix
#

I always find shit to do tbh

lavish mortar
#

I've been playing for 6 years

#

And I think over that span I have made maybe a total of like

#

25 outfits?

fierce matrix
#

Big fish, relics, savage, ultimate, criterion, deep dungeon

fierce matrix
flint ledge
lavish mortar
fierce matrix
#

And will be bis for ulti for forever

stray forge
#

im surprised you stay subbed for savage but dont sub for ulti

fierce matrix
#

And criterion too ig

lavish mortar
#

i dont

flint ledge
lavish mortar
#

I've never finished a savage tier

#

whatever I get to at the end of my sub is however far I get to

rain geode
#

Making progress myself

lavish mortar
#

I mean

#

I've gotten to final 25% of like

#

3 savage tiers

fierce matrix
#

So you just sub for one month, see how far you get and just stop subbing?

lavish mortar
#

I got to 75% on Oracle of Darkness Eden 3rd tier

flint ledge
#

is m11 the same dude as the last 2 3rd raids

limpid edge
#

does gapclose do something weird where it makes your character's actual position go slightly further in than what you see?

sleek moon
#

no

lavish mortar
#

I got to like

limpid edge
#

so they do be trippin!?

sleek moon
#

@ angel

lavish mortar
#

20% on Asphodelos

flint ledge
lavish mortar
#

and kinda did that on and off

flint ledge
#

kinda suprising

fierce matrix
#

Why dont you just....finish the tier and do other stuff in the game

sleek moon
#

if they had done it people would be whining about it being too predictable

fierce matrix
#

Seems kinda odd to just sub for one month every once in a while

flint ledge
#

true

fierce matrix
#

Then give up like right at the finish line

lavish mortar
#

I'm not all that interested in much else tbh

#

To be perfectly honest it's mostly because a lot of stuff feels unrewarding for the time you have to put in

fierce matrix
#

Matters the content tbh.

lavish mortar
#

yeah for sure

fierce matrix
#

Like pterandon

lavish mortar
#

that's why I sub to do savage

limpid edge
#

the journey and not the end result!

fierce matrix
#

But you dont even finish savage tho

lavish mortar
#

like is savage really worth all the time and effort come next expansion?

#

Not really

rain geode
#

Pf being the way it is I kinda understand stopping at the finish line now

lavish mortar
#

but it's fun to prog

#

so the journey is fun

dull drum
#

is there an option to make it so command panel doesnt close every pull

#

🤨

limpid edge
#

does it close when you die too?

fierce matrix
#

Well you do savage to prog, get good gear, maybe parse a bit to see how good you are, and prep for other harder content that releases

jolly flume
#

SIX SEVENNNNN

fierce matrix
#

Ulti coming out is also a big thing

rain geode
#

67

dull drum
#

otherwise no

flint ledge
fierce matrix
#

Where prog is also good there too

dull drum
#

kinda annoying for m12s p2 though

lavish mortar
sleek moon
lavish mortar
#

pain to prog in PF

fierce matrix
#

Ive progged 3 ultis in pf

dull drum
#

see there is for strategy board

fierce matrix
#

Didnt have much of an issue with it

dull drum
#

theres literally a lock for it

#

but no they couldnt afford to code it for command panel

fierce matrix
#

If anything I think my pf prog was better than static prog

lavish mortar
#

that could be true

#

depends on static

#

idk

fierce matrix
#

Well im saying that it really isnt that bad tbh

#

Its like savage to me

lavish mortar
#

yeah it's probably not as bad as I think it is

fierce matrix
#

You have to purge people quickly to keep the good people

lavish mortar
#

LOL

fierce matrix
#

If some shitter is wiping you to meteors while you are on DotH prog in DSR

jolly flume
#

parses today - 88 92 95 87 95

#

this scholar job kinda easy

fierce matrix
#

You kick em and wait the 10mins for someone else to join

#

You dont sit their wiping 20 times only for the party to disband

#

Its how I get week 1 PF kills in savage

#

Run that shit like a job and you get results

lavish mortar
#

💀

#

I'd rather get a real job instead....

fierce matrix
#

I do both LOL

lavish mortar
#

hm

fierce matrix
#

I dont use PTO for anything tbh

#

So I just use it on raid launches

#

And I never call out sick so they really just let me do whatever

limpid edge
#

lucky

lavish mortar
#

chat can I commit a sin

#

😈

fierce matrix
#

Why

#

Evil

#

Alao I think im 785 rn

#

And I get weapon on saturday

lavish mortar
#

end up doing less than the dancer who partnered me

fierce matrix
#

Tank at 788 week 3

#

I cant wait to parse out of my mind

lavish mortar
#

im 779 but would be 780 if I played during week 1 of patch

jolly flume
#

im 783 lol

#

farming free oranges

lavish mortar
#

Out done by a dancer

#

I don't think I like melee dps that much

#

too much greeding

#

then again I am playing NIN

#

the melee who needs to greed the least

#

raiton my beloved

#

pk my beloved

limpid edge
#

gweed

sinful brook
#

both ranged can just

#

be ccw

#

if you think about it

chrome surge
clear plume
#

It’s really just a basic conga of the non baiters yeah

#

As r1 you are ccw unless both healers are baiting, then you’re cw

#

Or you can think of it as like

#

I’m the second ccw in that reason

kind elm
#

or just play tank :3

#

pwoblem solved :3

clear plume
#

But then I’m playing tank

kind elm
#

wait fuck

#

youre right

#

unsub uninstall

#

go play e33

#

i heard its good

clear plume
#

My plds alt is drk and in 11 he did the legendary

#

27 unmend special

kind elm
#

i did 18 unmends in 9 and got a 92

vestal hollow
#

i think you should just quit

kind elm
#

oh

lavish mortar
#

holy shit I just one shot m11s

#

That was like

#

a deep personal experience

#

the viper died and we still killed before enrage even appeared

kind elm
#

i fucked up m11 prog today so bad Gladge

#

and now im tilted

#

and cant sleep

lavish mortar
#

oh mah gawd

worn bluff
jolly flume
#

we got a full set of splits + another 9 and 10 done in 3 hours

#

thats pretty good

clear plume
#

Nice nice

lavish mortar
#

I didnt even pot the 41 on brd

#

brd free class?

trim frost
valid solar
#

I guess each stomp would be 1 or 2 if you didn't trust melee

#

And then maybe 4 on aether letting ?

sleek moon
#

And far towers prob

amber fable
#

Aetherletting

#

Stamp

#

Far flail

#

And not greeding roller

lavish mortar
#

not greeding roller is honestly okay for DRK bc it doesnt have a press x to do more damage like PLD or GNB

#

all u gotta do is blow your load in the first couple of gcds and ur fine

loud swift
#

"blow your load" kek

alpine plover
#

yuh paladin is more technical now that i'm playing it in high end

#

when you get to maximize

#

putting more parts of attonement in FoF and buffs, keeping holy spirit proc for a chance of losing uptime otherwise, etc

tired anchor
#

the urge to set up a static group to easily"easily" farm wings is strong, but i feel that's bad juju here so i shant

terse zodiac
#

i swear every m11 pf that says enrage/clear is at 15-20%

#

how can your damage possibly be that dire

dull drum
#

if you mean peoples tomestone prog thats probably because they got to enrage but with pt deaths

#

just check if the person was dying like 20x a pull or doing abyssmal dmg and if not its fine lol

alpine plover
#
  1. zombie through prog until you hit enrage without doing mechanics properly
  2. join clear party cuz you have enrage visa
  3. gacha for 7 players that know what they are doing
  4. proceed to zombie through for the clear with minimal requirement for skill
  5. clear
#

basically the pf mentality

amber fable
#

main thing is uptime anyway

#

like sub 90 with no deaths at enrage

terse zodiac
#

naw its usually the host with the deaths or abysmal damage

#

dancer host i saw earlier had 20% enrage with 20k rdps 😭

#

1 death

amber fable
#

me when i afk

rapid whale
#

look i play for consistency and mechanics mmkayyyy

worn bluff
#

squishies dying to fixer

amber fable
#

Roll lower variance

rapid whale
amber fable
#

A raid accessory would have prevented it

fierce matrix
#

Should have feint, addle, rep, Rphys aoe mit, 1-2 tank aoe mits, kera/asylum, shields

#

Tanks didnt press their mit

amber fable
#

A week or 2 later you won't need to

fierce matrix
#

I mean is it a week or 2 later?

amber fable
#

Depending on left side tome cost

alpine plover
#

on week 5 melees wont press feint

#

and you will still die to overkill

dull drum
worn bluff
#

the mit sheet has DRK/GNB party mit on the stacks before, not sure why they don't put it on fixer

robust shoal
#

should last long enough to cover both iirc

west zephyr
#

It's sad how people don't know everything adds up and matters

alpine plover
#

i think i should

#

mit the "spread" tankbuster in m12s

#

and invuln the dragon head

#

otherwise i dont think i survive the last mortal slayer

worn bluff
#

idk if worth moving earlier in opener?

robust shoal
#

idk if you can move it more

#

first is at like 0:17 or sth right?

worn bluff
#

i haven’t tried first gcd on 15s mit in opener, might catch it

#

but idk if drk wants other weaves there for damage

#

or pot

alpine plover
robust shoal
#

everything but rampart for mortal slayer, rampart for act 1, invuln for dragon heads, kitchen sink second mortal slayer

#

dm+obl+tbn implied

#

my group doesn't stack the act 1 busters though and tanks 50/50 take a bait on dragon heads

#

otherwise you can invuln act 1 (I don't rly know how much they do stacked) and p sure you can kitchen sink dragon head if you want, though it doesn't hit that hard

#

I vigil on first mortal slayer just bc having tbn there is mana tick or prepull tbn dependent and prepull got less reliable as people mit more

alpine plover
#

i am pld but i see

#

ty

worn bluff
#

yeah i think the stacking busters makes it harder to take 40% off there

#

i think it’s 900k raw stacked

#

mortal slayer is scary with only ramp+90+short

alpine plover
#

yea the that's the problem

worn bluff
#

especially if the 4s bonus falls off on sheltron

alpine plover
#

if i send 40% at dragon heads it wont be up for mortal slayer

worn bluff
#

the 30s ogcds come up during that so depending on when your orb is

#

it’s cringe

robust shoal
#

I was dying if I missed tbn on mortal slayer without vigil

alpine plover
worn bluff
#

if i ramp+90 and only last 4 seconds of sheltron sometimes i barely live

#

i also try to intervention cotank there

alpine plover
#

hector does say everything but 40% lets you live the "spread" tb

#

hm it's actually pretty decent