endgame-lounge

[jolly flume]

you can do that yeah

good damage has it dead during splatter 3 though so you usually won't get the extra usage

or rather your extra usage will go into a 1hp boss

[trim frost]

assumes good damage :(

[fierce matrix]

You can but tbh by week 3 or 4 I doubt itll be done

[jolly flume]

mbge

[alpine plover]

i see

thank you

[fierce matrix]

In phase 2, its a bit cringe

You can do two things

[trim frost]

only reason to early buff is if you actually do need that 7:00-7:18 to get odd minute out i think

[fierce matrix]

Either send 1st GCD or delay the GCD during staging 1 when you come down for the first party stacks

The reason why is youll miss buffs going out if you dont do either of these things

And like 2 GCDs of your 2 min

Even if you 1st GCD you still have to cringe ranged attack if you are nothing/defam during your 2 min

I personally am of the hold the buff window camp

[clear plume]

In p1 I’ve only seen normal openers, and p2 you do it so you can buff before defas go out, bc holding means you don’t get a 1m at the end

[fierce matrix]

Yeah but if you have decent DPS

You won't need that last 1 min

[jolly flume]

we just send 3rd gcd as normal because not a chance in hell we're seeing that final usage at 9:00 anyways tbh

[fierce matrix]

Like even now we held with the highest ilvl at like 777

And we still killed before the 1 min would've been up

The dps check of p2 is a joke and the only way its not is if you have like 2 dps deaths

[alpine plover]

is p1 dps check tight too?

[fierce matrix]

My fc had their funneled ninja die twice during w1 and still killed

[alpine plover]

as in, similar too 11?

[fierce matrix]

P1 DPS is not as tight no

[jolly flume]

its easier than 11 if only because you can't take 6 damage downs to orbital

[fierce matrix]

LOL

And no positionals

[alpine plover]

lmao

i called static to drop uptime if needed and do orbital correctly

we didn't get any dd at orbital

???

profit

[west zephyr]

Not really

[fierce matrix]

Mathematically iirc

P1 has the highest dps check of the tier

[alpine plover]

...but?

[jolly flume]

mitigating factors like it being fucking impossible to lose uptime on the boss, no positionals, honestly easier mechanics

[alpine plover]

awesome

[jolly flume]

unbelievable brainrot

also we managed to finish the whole ass song

[fierce matrix]

So yeah just above p2 if you include downtime

The reason why p2 feels so easy aswell is cause like 50% of the fight is hitting a striking dummy

[jolly flume]

the bit between the role a/b tethers after curtain call and mortal slayer

just sitting there

waiting for something to happen for 30s

[fierce matrix]

Yeah LOL

[jolly flume]

why the fuck does mortal slayer even happen twice

[fierce matrix]

Ex trial

Please understand

[west zephyr]

Ran out of ideas

[fierce matrix]

P1 felt so lackluster

Like...one fucking savage mech

[west zephyr]

Should've put actual emphasis on killing the boss several times and regeneration

You know, it's gimmick

[fierce matrix]

Thinking from p12s p1 to m12s p1

[stray forge]

I do 0 dps

[fierce matrix]

We got this?

Its so bad

Easily the worst fight of the tier imo

[west zephyr]

Will pray for you on 11

[jolly flume]

act 1 is slop

[stray forge]

i will probably do better on 11 than 10

[jolly flume]

act 2 is beetle

[west zephyr]

How's that

[jolly flume]

act 3 is slop

curtain call is slop

mortal slayer is slop

[stray forge]

my smooth brain can't comprehend the decisions I need to make on 10 and I get decision paralysis

[west zephyr]

I still think the song is too short and doesn't fit the boss

Not fun progging either

[jolly flume]

and we need to kill whoever decided triple knockback pattern should be allowed to exist on splatters

that shit makes me want to break my monitor

[stray forge]

You need to find your inner zen Chiyo

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350

[rain geode]

[stray forge]

Yes

Tbf it’s hard to do worse than I did on 10 I did pretty terrible lmao

[jolly flume]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-pkFnpbcAALh6b.gif

mb

[stray forge]

I’m top and bottom

😇

[jolly flume]

I'm just a bottom personally

[stray forge]

Vers, as some would say

[alpine plover]

big confessions today it seems

[jolly flume]

confession? like the buff applied by white mage's ogcd skill plenary indulgence?

[rain geode]

We're healers we're all bottoms

[jolly flume]

me and my cohealer hard raised the same person today and just went "I got it" "no I got it" back and forth for 7 seconds

I got it

[stray forge]

Chiyo would absolutely pocket someone as mercy if overwatch didn’t get killed by blizzard

[jolly flume]

I played ana to feel like I was good at the game

[rain geode]

Overwatch is still around isnt it?

[alpine plover]

Blizzard is still around?

[stray forge]

I played Ana because I was pretty good at Ana

[rain geode]

I also played Ana but that was more because I had a skin my friend hated

[stray forge]

Ana and Ashe were my mains

Unless the map was cqc then I’d go brig or moira

[jolly flume]

my alt picks were zen and soldier

[amber fable]

As long as wow lives

[rain geode]

Honestly my most played characters were probably roadhog and reinhart tho

[stray forge]

technically blizzard hasn't really been around and it's just microsoft activision blizzard or however many fucking layers there are

[amber fable]

Every big corpo is like that

[stray forge]

no way!

are you sure

[jolly flume]

whoever said we basically already live in cyberpunk but without all the cool shit was so right

[amber fable]

I need brain dance

And sandevistan

[jolly flume]

I need new fkn eyes

[stray forge]

I need mouth boobs

[clear plume]

starting to think people r just bad and dps check isnt the issue

[stray forge]

Let’s see the log

[finite plank]

for m10s? im not worried about the dps check

[alpine plover]

will I also grief my m9s and m10s clear pulls this week

find out in tomorrow's episode of Arcadion, season 3

[stray forge]

A clear is a clear as they say

[thin fox]

if they deleted mortal slayer and it was like a really quick 5 minute long fight of act 1-2-3 enrage it might've been ok as an early stormblood style short door boss

[deft yarrow]

welp couldnt clear m11s before reset

[tawdry delta]

probably no checkpoint in that case

delete mutating cells from p2 and it fits within the 14 min budget

[dull drum]

the second one is so pointless cant lie

😭😭😭

[thin fox]

[alpine plover]

winnable

[shadow pilot]

winnable

[wicked delta]

winnable

[tulip anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/lemon-open-mouth-adventure-time-awe-sweaty-gif-12030606

im losing it

ive been in 4 different clear parties for m10s, and this is the last one i get before i run out of time

and its just not working

yeah im not getting a book this week

the best part is the fact that its only going to get worse

[thin fox]

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

PLEASE SPEED I NEED THIS

[alpine plover]

winnable

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/papers-please-gif-23166877

[torn kindle]

Bro is flexing the fact he already has his BiS drops from M9S

Also lmao at 775 req

[alpine plover]

775 for m9s

[rain geode]

775 for m9s "for fun"

[dapper zealot]

776 next week :)

fresh prog

[rain geode]

Im at 777 rn

[torn kindle]

I’m laughing more that it was posted 30m after weekly reset but he’s fine with any chest

[valid solar]

Your greed disgusts me

[alpine plover]

when ulti again

[valid solar]

No I'm not tilted that I haven't won a single drop in 2 weeks what makes you think

[alpine plover]

in like 8 weeks?

12?

[dapper zealot]

8.0

please look foward

[alpine plover]

nyo

[low hearth]

just enraged vamp fatale week 3

[rain geode]

I uh sorta cleaned house on my M10S clear I feel kinda bad

I actually won 3 pieces in M10S

[valid solar]

[rain geode]

I also dont actually feel that bad since I need 5 drops from M10S for bis

[dapper zealot]

Oof

Have fun getting that after 7.41

[rain geode]

I mean I only need 2 now lmao

One more acc upgrade and the boots

I actually need more things from M9S then M10S now lol

Although I suppose number of items needed isn't exactly the full story i only need one item from M12S for BIS after all

And that highly likely to be the last I get.

[low hearth]

got a 92 nice

forgot to pot my opener

[alpine plover]

cooked

im starting to pot every pull from now

because it's funny that you can already zombie m9s

[rain geode]

I need to start potting all my reclears just to get used to hitting the buttons

I think I used pots on my like last 10 train clears and never before that so I'm not used to hitting the button

[low hearth]

yo sanguine scratch lowkey easy

i didnt know being too far from the bat gives a damage down

[rain geode]

Yeah just have to get used to how many you can/need to run

[torn kindle]

Hit enrage in this M9S because this monk has 0 melds and drifting their 2m buff

[alpine plover]

in my clear i misalligned my 30s ogcds so much that they realligned

still got a green parse

...

[fierce matrix]

brother

did you see what I did for my reclear last week in 12?

i fucking drifted 15s out of buffs

parsed an 80

locked in at 82

its criminally horrible I deserve to be on a firing line for what i did

[alpine plover]

what job

[fierce matrix]

GNB

:)

[alpine plover]

[fierce matrix]

look at this LOL

DRG was hella drifted too

but bro

[alpine plover]

5 gcd drift

-# could be worse

[fierce matrix]

dokomori is the correct spot for it

so like

7 gcds

:)

[alpine plover]

but i think that lionheart might not be in buffs

mayhaps

[fierce matrix]

MAYHAPS?

IT DOESNT EVEN CATCH POT

[alpine plover]

[fierce matrix]

AND I STILL

PARSED AN 82????

[rapid whale]

Mb mb mb mb mb

[fierce matrix]

bro i hate this game

[alpine plover]

mb...

[fierce matrix]

I also hate the new GNB opti its fucking horrid

[rapid whale]

It was your 100 run wit that crit jkjkjk

[fierce matrix]

you have to press fucking

[alpine plover]

mb

[fierce matrix]

2 of your GF combo buttons

then on the third

NM first oGCD

then continuation second

THEN burst

which starts with LION HEART

[rapid whale]

That doesn't break the gf?

[alpine plover]

idk man i'm always unlucky

[fierce matrix]

NO

BECAUSE YOU ARE PRESSING IT OUTSIDE OF THE NM WINDOW

JUST TO GET THE LAST OGCD IN THE WINDOW

[alpine plover]

whenever i eat a DD or fuck up something out of burst it's the one pull where we clear

[fierce matrix]

THEN PRESSING IT AGAIN AT THE VERY END OF YOURNM

[rapid whale]

Ooo

[alpine plover]

[fierce matrix]

Like look at this shit

[rapid whale]

The ogcd doesn't get cancelled ic

[low hearth]

no way mfs cant do snaking in week 3 holy shit

how do you not kbi deep impact

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[alpine plover]

mb

[native forge]

is there a dedicated discord for MINE content for EU data centres?
(sorry I realize its not quite endgame, but it felt appropriate-ish here, as I did not get response elsewhere I tried)

up to heavensward content for me right now, but steadily progressing MSQ. Would love to clear all old high/max level difficulty content eventually though

especially Bahamut series (no carry, MINE only)

[dull drum]

no it doesnt

[dull drum]

you dont even need kbi if you're good ngl

just gap close time it

but yeahits free usage there anyway so

[fierce matrix]

i sure as hell dont

im what the kids call goated with the sauce

[wicked delta]

Check #resources

Syncacemy is the most active one I believe

https://discord.gg/AQbZUbg

[native forge]

thank you

i tried to join but it just spams me with "mesage failed to load"

[torn kindle]

Holy fuck that reclear party was an absolute trap

[native forge]

they always are (speaking from Heroic weekly reset WoW clears)

[torn kindle]

MNK/WAR kept getting DDs and people didn’t want to focus on flails

[native forge]

legit tho pls what am i doing wrong?

they wont let me join, just "Mesage failed to load"

what did I do wrong

[zealous meteor]

go to "reception"

[low hearth]

god these m10s parties SUCK

[native forge]

wh ois my recuriter

[native forge]

who are you

I cant find any TObias in the list

[wicked delta]

?

Why do you need to know lol

[native forge]

it asks me

[wicked delta]

Im not a mod

[native forge]

who referred me

those are all the options

[wicked delta]

Katarina Bjorklund is my nickname in the server but

[native forge]

why is it so complicated

ill just choose someone randomly i guess lol

[wicked delta]

I just chose some person and called it a day idk lmao

[native forge]

wtf

ok ill do same np

gonna let chatGPT decide

I slected it and immediately got 10 discord alerts

they will contact me

apparently

im so confused

[wicked delta]

Its a security thing

Apparently they used to get raided by bots a lot so

Next best thing

[low hearth]

what the m11s reclears looking like?

[rapid whale]

pain

[shadow pilot]

They cant show off their foot work

[rapid whale]

ppl greeding melee lb cuz "surely 3 weeks of gears dont need it"

[dapper zealot]

they haven't tasted the feet yet

[wicked delta]

Show me your footwork

[low hearth]

First, I shall take your measure. 😏

[amber fable]

Measure deez

🥜

[wicked delta]

It’s Tyranny Time, folks!

[zealous meteor]

my favourite part of m11 is when the tyrant went "it's tyranny time" and proceeded to tyrant all over the party

[low hearth]

no way mfs cant do arena split in a reclear paarty

[deft yarrow]

wow thats a lotta floor 1-2 merc pfs
people are desperate to outgear that m11s damage check huh

[low hearth]

the check isnt real as long as no one is drooling dawg

[finite plank]

for some reason, i mistook raid paints for scouting to be crit sks

im not sure why

[valid solar]

long live the king

[alpine plover]

mb...

[sleek moon]

tbf drifting out of buffs only punishes your supports 🙂

(at least for rdps)

[deft yarrow]

wow, very insightful

[low hearth]

I beg your pardon? What is he going to do with all those weapons? 🤔

[alpine plover]

First, I shall take your measure

[random needle]

Isn't it technically Metem who says "it's Tyranny Time, folks!"

[trim frost]

i like when metem just goes "uhhhh" in p2

[amber fable]

Idk bro whats happening anymore

[mortal flower]

Shit bro this shit has fuckin eden 12 mechs I'm out

[amber fable]

Well you can macro it all atleast

[random needle]

I was kinda miserable in e12s for a while, but now that we're doing Junction Shiva more consistently, I'm vibing

[rapid whale]

i forgor are you doing mine or awktrail

[random needle]

MiNE

And I'm shield healing

[thin fox]

i have better gear on my alt than my main

[rapid whale]

same

rng be a bitch

i think it just loves my lala alt

i just got giga trapped and wasted the reclear window actually so annoyed

[thin fox]

on my alt i need an earring from 9 and 2x glaze from 10 and then the rest of my gear is from 11 and 12

[rapid whale]

this static opened up a pf using pf strats -> like an hour and a half in they admit they never used the pf strats

[thin fox]

2x twine, chest, weapon for alt

idr what i need for main

[rapid whale]

criminal level of trapping

[thin fox]

i purpled in m10

[rapid whale]

grats

m10s was like tailor made for picto

it highlights everything good about the job

[low hearth]

m11s is unclearable as of 1/20/2026

orbital omen andys causing us to enrage gg

[alpine plover]

always has been

only clearable in week2

[amber fable]

Real challenge is clear in 7.58 with echo

And still die to enrage

[low hearth]

yo the dps check lowkey easy as shit this week 😭

either that or the people in reclear parties have a pulse

[remote gate]

how it feels to do m12n

[zealous meteor]

i was half expecting it to cut to "why is everyone dead" at the end

[vestal hollow]

do they live on the fucking moon

[alpine plover]

Bruh

[low hearth]

ez 1 pull in and out m11s

[random needle]

Cinema

[terse zodiac]

😭 jus got out of m10s reclear that thinks the dps check is impossible without lb3 and lb2 and tried to flame me for my logs

sorry my 94 isn't good enough for you ig

[boreal pumice]

chiyo what do you use to get cleaner waymarkers?

[low hearth]

this lowk a fun savage tier

[jolly flume]

yeah it's pretty great

[loud nymph]

am only on m10 enrage currently but yes it's good so far

looking forward to 11

[pine holly]

That's terrifying. We killed so ahead of enrage and we actually forgot to limit break on last week's reclear.

[terse zodiac]

the healers were both about 14k dps and one had never cleared apparently

i may have found what the issue was 🧐

[fierce matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172737854468788286/1446526015257055294/meme.gif

[pine holly]

They're gonna be stuck in m11 long after gear creep allowed everyone else to proceed

Which should be this week I think.

[fierce matrix]

Well actually

Please understand

The dps check is impossible

Its not MY fault im 6k dps under the median

Its the games fault!

[jolly flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378454927688597722/1462944029812461644/image.png?ex=6970b10c&is=696f5f8c&hm=37b8dee8ed4b1cc8f5afeee66142963c897d92c11a5bacf37275063ff79353d2&

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-principal-skinner-skinner-children-out-of-touch-gif-4463952

[jolly flume]

people have finally awakened to the truth

[loud nymph]

mb I'm bad

[jolly flume]

green dps > red dps

[daring pine]

i had a sage doing 8k

[loud nymph]

was that because they were busy GCD healing because their partner was allergic to healing

or were they just bad

[terse zodiac]

8k is wild

[jolly flume]

no amount of gcd healing will ever drop your dps by more than 2k

even if you're hard carrying a brick of a coheal

[pine holly]

I remember having a flashback to this game when I played Marvel Rivals and healers also didn't do damage

[boreal pumice]

yay FT friday

[vast jacinth]

i should try todo tower

but savage first

[random needle]

I hope I can catch up on the high end fights I missed in DT later on

Codcar, FTB, Q40, FRU

[wicked delta]

I kinda wanna do FRU now

[jolly flume]

FINALLY

[vestal hollow]

as frustrating as m10 has been melee uptime feels good

[wicked delta]

Dude

Its like I fucking summoned you wtf

[vestal hollow]

i want to as well

i probably circle back after clearing tier

[jolly flume]

i'm eating breakfast

first day of my last semester

I miss sleeping in already...

[boreal pumice]

chiyo what do you use to cleaner way markers?

[jolly flume]

better waymarks

[random needle]

I sorta wanna do FRU on a role other than caster but idk what

[loud nymph]

I got p8n in normal raid roulette the other day and God it's such a difference

hitbox literally the size of the arena

[vestal hollow]

a fun thought experiment is thinking about what dt fights would be like if they came out in ew

like i bet ia would be downtime

[mortal flower]

Let ranged have a reason they're ranged

Ranged tax should offset the fact there's not 100% [melee] uptime

Frfr

[jolly flume]

I don't care anymore honestly I'm willing to forgive square's job design sins for this tier

[boreal pumice]

ty chiyo

[wicked delta]

you got this bro

[jolly flume]

ugh, what a drag!

[loud nymph]

let's do this together, bro ❤️

[wicked delta]

I cant say bro to anyone anymore man

what the hell

[random needle]

Hey, save some fun for me!

[jolly flume]

not enough ys

heyyyyy

[valid solar]

[wicked delta]

LONG LIVE THE KING

[random needle]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G9AiXFYX0AA1tUs.gif

[zealous meteor]

this is in m9s

[thin fox]

clearable

trust

[loud nymph]

if things go well should be seeing this fight this week, I can't wait

[zealous meteor]

i think i might just be ass

[jolly flume]

🗣️

and that's why he's the goat

[random needle]

I will clear m9 tonight I will clear m9 tonight I will clear m9 tonight please give me a functional party I will clear m9 tonight

[thin fox]

i'm griefing on my alt

i forgot to do m12n last week

[zealous meteor]

[random needle]

You're fine

[wicked delta]

Im gonna prog m10

[pine holly]

I'm surprised pf struggles on m9 so much. I thought it was easier than Black Cat as long as you didnt greed.

[wicked delta]

maybe clear

idk

[zealous meteor]

(sam is not part of a healthy diet a functional party)

[zealous meteor]

the fopses are spreading

[wicked delta]

damage down

[jolly flume]

i'm fairly confident you could have every support refresh their damage down on cd in 9 and still clear

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shaking-dog-wobbling-artqngel-gif-21411744

[pine holly]

My group memed on the 9 reclear like crazy with multiple dds and still cleared

Meanwhile the m10 pull was clean as hell

[thin fox]

SUDDENLY I WANNA BE 😤 RIDIN’ FREE 🌊 XTREME 💥 OH BABY CAN’T YOU SEE 👀 ✂️ CUT THE LEASH ✂️ SO I CAN BREATHE 😮‍💨 NOW IN ME 💪 I CAN BELIEVE ✨ 👀 LOOK IN THE MIRROR 👀 LOOK IN THE MIRROR 👀 LOOK IN THE MIRROR 👀 AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE 🪞 😎 SAW THE ME THAT I WANNA BE 😎 IN THE MIRROR 🏄‍♂️ RIGHT WHERE WE OUGHTTA BE 🏄‍♂️

[wicked delta]

i meme'd hard on my first m9 clear

lmao

[remote gate]

can't wait to listen to ts for three weeks straight 🥀

[pine holly]

I was doing great on my first clear and then I got killed by someone during bats

2nd clear was all me, I played bad on my own.

[remote gate]

im sorry vamp is really distracting when she says that im a stubborn one

[low hearth]

First, I shall take your measure 📏📏. Show me your footwork 🦶🦶. How about this? Behold the essence of martial mastery ⚔️🔥! There is much more to come 💥! It has been a long time since I've enjoyed myself so 😈! No more holding back 💢. Prepare yourself, unenhanced warrior 🛡️!

[stray forge]

NO FEET

UGH

[thin fox]

didnt win any gear this week on my main

new tier

same shitty rolls

[low hearth]

I got accessory augment and weapon augment juice

790 weapon finna go crazy next week yo

[thin fox]

i g ot gloves on my alt so now i only need 2x glaze from 10 and i still need an acc from 9

778 vs 781

[low hearth]

fucking loot gremlins rolling on the earrings only tanks and casters use

[thin fox]

when i'm too lazy to pull up the balance i roll on everything

ok i do it on main cuz i have everything levelled but i don't do it on my alt

whcih only has casters

[boreal pumice]

juice it up

[remote gate]

ive gotten one accessory every clear I've done this tier if I get a ring from chest ill be insanely cracked

[thin fox]

@jolly flume did u see ts btw https://www.twitch.tv/itrolledu/clip/KnottyProductiveCurlewVoteNay-1UNeASZO4Jn1AtQE?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[random needle]

Surely my awful luck on Orchestrion rolls will even out when I'm rolling for gear

[jagged aspen]

ye we had that too

[jolly flume]

fall damage

smile

also there's a clip in the recommended under that called "whm/sge" and the thumbnail of the p1 arena

love that I don't even have to watch it to know what it'll be

[jagged aspen]

wym, whm sge is op

[jolly flume]

there's a dude on the subway who's literally just scrolling down the list of ios default ringtone sounds one by one on speaker and i'm going insane

holy shit this is not a real human being

[low hearth]

mb

[wicked delta]

AI generated human being

[random needle]

Open the list on your phone and play them back at him, but 10x louder, and see how long until he stops

[loud nymph]

man I sorta missed subway creatures ngl

[stray forge]

What is this your first time on the subway

Just put the headphones in and look away

[jolly flume]

I CAN HEAR HIM THROUGH MY NOISE CANCELING

[true beacon]

I think I only went on a subway once

[sleek moon]

i saw this yesterday and was like, why is this guy not even looking at where he's standing

and then I see the job and it makes sense

[jolly flume]

tbf the wind tower as range is pretty finicky

every time we had someone get wind for the first time we wiped

[sleek moon]

yeah but this guy was 1 pixel away from being sent to the abyss

and he couldnt even turn the camera around

had to be a blm main

[jagged aspen]

yea you kinda have to just stand directly in front of it

or youre cooked

[random needle]

Knockback tower riding my beloved

[sleek moon]

for all he knows hes 5 steps away from the edge

and cant even double check

[jagged aspen]

also idk how i havent managed to laser anyone before i realized dark tower is not a gaze

[jolly flume]

luck = skill

[jagged aspen]

ig when im trying to face away i go to the same side of the tower im trying to face to

[jolly flume]

I once doomed the entire party because I forgot I had the dark tower

and then I almost healer lb3d in time to cleanse it

🥀

[finite plank]

does cleansing it involve them dying and them bringing them back

a shame death doesn't cleanse mechanic buffs

[jagged aspen]

healer lb should cleanse it

if you use it in time

which is a little better than having them die and revive ig

unless its drk

[alpine plover]

time to

hunt

[woven tundra]

m11 reclears

[alpine plover]

tomes

[woven tundra]

co-healer asking "you know what ur doing right" into fucking it up twice and saying "i was told i dont have to think about it as healer"
ahh so you're the one who needs to read the raidplan

[stray forge]

they asked so they would know if they could get away with not knowing

[woven tundra]

its just so funny bc they even linked the raidplan

[whole estuary]

Maybe phantom jobs are actually good

[daring pine]

🐇

[whole estuary]

morning marce!!

[daring pine]

hello kin kin! how are you?

[whole estuary]

good, waiting for the results of the fc glam contest

[daring pine]

wao

amazing

i am a sick bnuu today

[whole estuary]

Nooo

[daring pine]

but at work regardless

i’ll be going home early i just wanted to make some money

[whole estuary]

Take short breaks and stuff

[daring pine]

i have my lunch in an hour

[vast jacinth]

ok i think ive never seen smth dumber. M10s reclear, aftet extreme firesnaking, the melees didnt go to clockspots, and picto couldnt move because of lb :) just 3 puddles in the middle

they threw the kill

because of not going to clockspots gg

[loud nymph]

why would they opt to lb there of all places

[vast jacinth]

bro idk

party imploded but bossed were at 7% health

[loud nymph]

50/50 chance you're gonna have to move for alley-oop combo anyway

[vast jacinth]

:)

[loud nymph]

and then pyrotation

just lb after that

and it's gg

[vast jacinth]

juuup

but tbf 2 melees also didnt move

[random needle]

Pyrotation is the Akh Morn stacks, right?

[loud nymph]

ye

[worn bluff]

i see a decent amount of wipes at that part for some reason

just do the mechanic man

[vast jacinth]

juup

[loud nymph]

you go out at clocks to drop fire puddles, then do the alley-oop, then pyrotation and a blue tb

it's really not that much happening at once tbh

[vast jacinth]

the run was so clean too T_T

[loud nymph]

especially compared to everything that led up to it haha

[worn bluff]

if they want uptime they can stay in melee range right as proteans go out, then go out to drop puddle

[vast jacinth]

juup

[worn bluff]

but i feel like people do it the wrong order

like they think the puddle drops first so they jump in and mess it up

[stray forge]

at least u didnt get

gigaclapped

by the water guy bc the OT didnt move out

or tank, whoever decides to do it

[worn bluff]

i don't trust people there anymore

i just tell other tank voke blue and i'll do it

had a wipe one time bc the other tank was taking the TB but wanted to stay near blue for uptime or something, so they had no time to run away

[stray forge]

funny numbers

[jolly flume]

someone should tell pf you can just stack the party under the blue guy and the blue tank doesnt have to lose any uptime

[stray forge]

I dont trust pf with that

[worn bluff]

yeah i tell the other tank to voke blue so the party doesn't need to use brain cell for that

since they probably have red too

it's like a few seconds of double autos

if you each have one boss blue usually goes towards one tank after the proteans, so it's easier if the non-TB tank takes blue

[echo ibex]

Dude I don't get reverse water during split arena

What the fuck

Middle is supposed to be safe but it's a DD mech

Rather just jump to healer at that point

[stray forge]

are you moving back

[echo ibex]

YE- okay maybe not that much

[stray forge]

cause theres an explosion in middle lmao

[echo ibex]

Oh no i'm not getting hit by that

100% sure

The explosion happens after so

[midnight furnace]

Today my Static should beat M9S

[stray forge]

then must be positioning

[midnight furnace]

So M10S memes will begin

[stray forge]

i dont get hit by anything during reverse and I go middle

[loud nymph]

for melees/tanks? one of y'all must be crowding the middle on the initial proteans

[stray forge]

.>

[echo ibex]

Gonna have to see the exact position

Or maybe i'm dumb idk

Bro is 3 weeks late

[loud nymph]

I do what Hector suggests as melee, line up with the south edge of red hot's hitbox all the way at the middle

[loud nymph]

if both tank and melee do that then far cardinal is safe from the reverse

[woven tundra]

god wept

and so did i

[loud nymph]

and then you can roll GCD to step out for the explosion

[jolly flume]

I'm pushing

pacman arena split

to my stati

c

[echo ibex]

Or just get blue on your side too eh

[loud nymph]

I mean yeah

just pray to RNG

[scarlet lintel]

this is infuriating

why has pf split between using inner kindred markers and outer kindred markers

everyone was using outer. hector vid had outer

and now all of a sudden half the parties are using inner

i didnt even know that it was from the updated kindred raidplan why would i look at the kindred raidplan after the hctor video is out bruh

and half the updated kindred raidplan uses outer markers anyway!

[jolly flume]

I mean as long as it's explicitly stated

who cares really

is it a mild annoyance sure is it of any real consequence no

just go to the spot

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hayase-yuuka-blue-archive-desk-slam-anger-gif-9924102004262469214

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/arisu-aris-pregnant-blue-archive-gif-15098572066819213302

[scarlet lintel]

yeah i just dont udnerstand cause pf was all using outer, hector uses outer, then suddenly bam heres inner

its another thing to tihnk abuot for an already tense mechanic for me

but its not a big deal i suppose

[jolly flume]

I can kinda see why you might wanna use inner markers I guess

puts one edge closer to the tether so they can judge their position a bit better but

yeah idk something something xkcd standards

[low hearth]

mb

[spice path]

I mean the tether people can just use lines on the arena... they are right there.

[low hearth]

Inner might be safer yea

[jolly flume]

there are lines on the arena for damn near every fight in the game but we still use waymarks

theyre more visible we use em for a reason

[tawdry delta]

m11s would be easier if it was a 4x4 square grid

[random needle]

On the subject of lines on the floor, can I complain about the lines in e12sp1 being weirdge

[jolly flume]

they're not particularly useful

[random needle]

Yeah, I kinda just have to go off vibes for the primal AOEs

[jolly flume]

leviathan+ifrit 🗣️

[random needle]

It irrationally bothers me that the Ifrit-Leviathan safe zone is so tiny compared to all the others, but Leviathan-Garuda ticks me off too

It's also kinda funny that Ifrit-Garuda is an impossible combo despite being the ones that fuse in their actual fight

[jolly flume]

p2 lines on the other hand

very useful

circles on the floor, even

[random needle]

Junction Titan also has circles on the floor

It's so funny to me that our solution for that makes the tanks treat spreads the same as stacks

[echo ibex]

It's funny because some sections of the arena have lines you can use

But then others don't

So like xd

[jolly flume]

abusing tank privilege is a core skill

trust me

[echo ibex]

We should make tanks grab pred and tether and invuln it fr

[jolly flume]

I have like 5 ways to make tanks deal with shit in this tier to make my life easier

[echo ibex]

Express it then get laughed at when the hive mind doesn't approve cuz it's not standard after 2 seconds

[jolly flume]

its ok I have a static full of guinea pigs

this is on the table this week

[clear plume]

we are trying it too

[wicked delta]

worlds most washed reaper player boutta cap his tomes

[echo ibex]

Hunt train bro

[jolly flume]

I forgot to wake up cousin otto before leaving for class today

[boreal pumice]

is cooley tobi ?

[clear plume]

need me to cap ur tomes before you raid

[stray forge]

Who the hell is Otto

[loud nymph]

is tobi a RPR main

[boreal pumice]

chiyos cousin

[stray forge]

Why do you have to wake him up

[zealous meteor]

Otto Duty

chiyo refuses to play the game he pays a monthly subscription for

[loud nymph]

damn that's a good alt name

[stray forge]

I looked up Otto and it’s a lalafell named otto Otto on Gilgamesh

Is that cousin Otto

[jolly flume]

naw it's fine we raid thursday lol

[jolly flume]

I play the FUN parts

like staring at my character

[clear plume]

i couldnt wait for thursday to raid id be in alt 7 if i tried

[jolly flume]

I've been playing a lot of other stuff lately so I don't mind as much

[boreal pumice]

chiyo afks in his car listening to everything burns while the cat chills

[vestal hollow]

do any jobs use raid bracelet as bis

[jolly flume]

some of the melees do

[jolly flume]

after careful deliberation

[clear plume]

I think all str melees

And nothing else?

[jolly flume]

I have decided that absolute tyranny clears everything burns

[loud swift]

dragoon reaper use wrist

[jolly flume]

my drg has raid bracelet listed in our spreadsheet

[clear plume]

Drg and mnk both use it ik

[vestal hollow]

i won bracelet which is why i ask

[clear plume]

So I assume Sam and rpr does

[boreal pumice]

im more of a fan of in the mirror

[clear plume]

Bc normally mnk is the one that changes

[loud swift]

rpr uses same gear as drg

[vestal hollow]

kk

[clear plume]

Gz on drop though

[vestal hollow]

im not planning on getting bis for them but yknow

want to put it to a good place

[alpine plover]

2 hunt trains done

need 1 more

[stray forge]

do u guys remember this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbrJHNKc3Jo&list=RDvbrJHNKc3Jo&start_radio=1

[thin fox]

ez 2 pull m11

with a damage down

shes insane

well

2 pulls with that party

not bad

[jolly flume]

how'd you clear

I thought that fight was impossible if anyone got a dd

[thin fox]

i won nothing the whole fucking tier on tank!!!

[thin fox]

honestly we did not even have incredible dps

blm and rpr kinda made up for the other two

healers were below average

idr what exact enrage is but we killed 10:57

[stray forge]

dats how u know i wasnt the rpr

[thin fox]

so like 6s off? i think

we had "4" damage downs

me and the sch and scholar getting dd counts for like 3

because why not

[zealous meteor]

fairy/carby also gets a damage down

[thin fox]

yeah and who gaf about them

[zealous meteor]

i care

[jolly flume]

earthly star gets one too 🥀

[worn bluff]

i just make a macro to say inner or outer

and press it while we're flying up

[thin fox]

does earthly star count as a pet??

ig i can see how that'd happen

[mortal flower]

"This is my pet, thermy, the thermonuclear bomb"

He's a good boy

pat pat

[zealous meteor]

[jolly flume]

I actually have no fucking idea how pets work anymore ngl

everything seems to be an exception

fairy doesn't inherit rez debuffs from the owner so the heals are unaffected

but it gets damage downs

[finite plank]

this week, i got gear and ended up holding lb3 for emergency healer lb for m11s

[thin fox]

chiyo i'm gonna say this

unironically

[finite plank]

killed in 10:44 with lb3 + lb 1 instead

[jolly flume]

we just never do the pre arena split lb3

lol

[thin fox]

m9s is the hardest fight to do correctly

[jolly flume]

I agree

mostly

[thin fox]

literally impossible to not get damage downs

no one has ever done it

[finite plank]

after getting gear, the requirement of lb3 melee is no longer needed

[thin fox]

no one has ever played caster in m9s and not gotten a damage down during curtain call

[jolly flume]

1 lb3 with 4 ungeared alts

[finite plank]

how nice

to kill with such a time without gear

[wicked delta]

blink

[jolly flume]

we do damage

it goes hard

[wicked delta]

umm

[finite plank]

there's little more i can do besides perfecting xiva as much as possible

[thin fox]

https://tenor.com/view/white-dog-shaking-scared-nervous-dog-scared-and-shaking-gif-22874221

[wicked delta]

man WHAT lmfao

[finite plank]

out of pf rng

[thin fox]

FREE MENTOR

we take those

[clear plume]

somebody was afk and they intentionally waited to boot them for sure

[thin fox]

i've decided i'm doing 5m pot in m11s now

[clear plume]

one of those after first boss they wont wait to kick me aholes

[thin fox]

cuz the 6m pot is actually so fucking bad

[jolly flume]

the 6m pot isn't even the worst part

[thin fox]

i love missing out on like 8 seconds of my pot

from having to pop it before knockback

[jolly flume]

the worst part is that if your group does any damage you're just not going to get your last 2s or pot off fully

[thin fox]

and then missing more from having to soak a tower

[echo ibex]

-We get past 11 arena split flawlessly
-Both healers die to orbial after

[jolly flume]

how do you DIE to orbital

[finite plank]

sigh

[clear plume]

shoulda brought a smn

[jolly flume]

a dd I'd get it

[thin fox]

every time i get the free pattern

in orbital

i get so happy

because ppl cannot

POSSIBLY

fuck it up

[jolly flume]

every pattern is the free pattern

🥀

[thin fox]

well i mean like

[jolly flume]

212 my goat...

[echo ibex]

And both healers

[thin fox]

where 1 is also a middle

healers suck shit at orbital

[clear plume]

chiyo have u seen pf recommended dodge its terrorism to ask the average pf person to do that

[jolly flume]

no

what is it

[thin fox]

i exclusively do 212 idk what others do

[clear plume]

https://youtu.be/w1uuwzhyf5A?t=495

[thin fox]

on picto its super free cuz you can swift paint

and just walk

[pine holly]

I've had a few people really struggle to understand the orbital dodge and I'm trying to figure out how to help. I think they're just over complicating it in their head.

[finite plank]

i do into 2, or 1 if it's in melee range

[thin fox]

doesnt hector do 212

[torn mesa]

yeah just watched

it's 212

[thin fox]

yeah wonder thats the strat chiyo likes

[wicked delta]

yeah thats what im thinking cus the party was completely fine lmao

[thin fox]

i do 212 and i've never been hit

so

[clear plume]

yeah there r a lot of things i like that i recognize a random pf person wont do though

wont do correctly

[jolly flume]

maybe pf just needs to do the pull boss to a corner and point the cleave completely out of the arena strat

lol

[torn mesa]

you don't even react to the lines when you do 212

you hold W when castbar completes, you hold S as soon as you move across

[thin fox]

yeah i just double back without even thinking of the snapshot

[clear plume]

idk how pf didnt settle on "mt just point boss away from first dodge" strat ngl

[mortal flower]

Finally. I can watch a guide for a raid tier I'm not doing

Someone thought of the casuals

[torn mesa]

PSA

please drop your meteors on boss hitbox

[thin fox]

can't wait for hector's 2 hour long idyllic guide

[torn mesa]

and not in narnia if you're not H2/R1

[worn bluff]

i kind of go based on the lines for 212 but it’s bc i treat it like any other FF14 snapshot

[thin fox]

i think the reason ppl get fucked

[torn mesa]

going by lines means you're not treating it like any FF14 snapshot

[thin fox]

is cuz the visuals are so bad there

so ppl misjudge the distance

[mortal flower]

"I don't know what's going on here. Just drop kick him"

[jolly flume]

functionally speaking you cannot dodge back in too fast

[torn mesa]

because reacting by animation is inherently not FF14 snapshot

[jolly flume]

so you just sprint and do it as fast as you can

and it works

[finite plank]

there are squares on the floor

[worn bluff]

i mean like the feel of the animation. idk i can’t describe it

[torn mesa]

I never sprint for that mechanic lol

[thin fox]

i don't use sprint either

i just walk

[worn bluff]

yeah i don’t sprint

[torn mesa]

the hold W and hold S thing

just works

[thin fox]

yeah i don't like go forward, wait, then back. i just hold w and then switch to hold s

and it simply works

[jolly flume]

sprint makes it feel safer

that's placebo but I like placebo

[clear plume]

just use ur rpr dash ezclap

[torn mesa]

I need sprint when someone drops a terrorist meteor

to keep uptime

[thin fox]

what if on sam you backdashed into 1 and then dashed back in

[worn bluff]

it’s technically possible to go back too early but only if you like took one step over his center and immediately back, which is kind of hard to do anyways

[thin fox]

for the clip

[finite plank]

kenki loss

[torn mesa]

are you talking about the triple hit at the end

or during the line stacks and drops

[thin fox]

clip > parse

[finite plank]

im not sure if there's a melee besides vpr or nin that can deal with triple strike without gcd loss

and pld

[jolly flume]

no shot

[finite plank]

i still have a habit of not pressing buttons during arena split when moving out just to focus on moving

[thin fox]

if you align your gcd perfectly you can do pld without losing any uptime and without using hardcast holy spirit

but its like

1 in a million

the average case is you have to use 1 hardcast

before you dash back in

[jolly flume]

clipping is probably not disastrous depending on how your gcd lines up with arena break anyway

[thin fox]

if you fuck up your combo pld is super jank in split

you straight up either have to lose combo or overwrite atonement

if you know what youre doing youll avoid it every time

but its easy to do by accident

[clear plume]

My group just holds buffs for 5s after knockup and it solves pld issue

[finite plank]

i can chuck a mudra during this period but after the incident of my finger slipping and pressing the wrong movement that killed multiple people, no

[low hearth]

It might be with deaths ngl

Like that cripples the damage output so bad

[worn bluff]

PLD is also really reliant on not drifting your 30s in first half of fight

if you drift them more than 2 GCD you can't get them off before triple meteor

[finite plank]

it's deaths that make it very difficult to clear

[thin fox]

trying to look at my clips and i forgot i had my insane person overlay still on

[finite plank]

dds are still fine

[thin tartan]

m9 only 2 mil now?

[finite plank]

not that people should be getting dds....

[low hearth]

shit not even worth getting out of bed bro

[finite plank]

it'd be death first before dd most of the time

[thin fox]

how the fuck am i meant to see m12s like this 🥀

[worn bluff]

we had 4 DDs in my clear but had a couple gear fed helpers

my cotank got a DD and got a 97

[low hearth]

Wtf

[jolly flume]

oh nah they kirked the tyrant

[zealous meteor]

healers blacklisted: 8

[thin fox]

exclusively over damage

btw

i don't think i blacklisted a single healer [in m11s] over heals

[jolly flume]

m11s was pf's awakening to the fact that healer dps matters more than dps dps

[thin fox]

it was over them doing like

14k rdps

[zealous meteor]

mb im new

[thin fox]

i was actually thinking about this

is this the hardest dps check [in savage] since abyssos? it definitely is, right?

[jolly flume]

yes

[thin fox]

way harder than anything in anabaseios which famously didnt have checks

lhw obv had no checks

only m7 was kind of tight

m6s wasnt tight ppl just werent cleaving

[worn bluff]

tighter DPS check + requires consistent execution = PF nightmare

[jolly flume]

7 wasn't even tight people just suck

and dd farming off seeds

lol

[thin fox]

even if m12's check is objectively tighter (can do fewer dds/deaths) its sooo much easier to keep uptime in 12

like 12 has no equivalent to running around for a minute in ultimate weapons

[jolly flume]

we were far more noticeably ahead of the 7 check with a death and 2 dds than we were with the 11 check with 3 dds

[worn bluff]

i can't explain why but greeding weapons doesn't really feel fun

maybe it's bc i've done it so many times

it just feels like a job

[jolly flume]

triple kb pattern on splatter for casters

dropped my usual 95 to like 80 last night

but yeah in practice it's way easier

[thin fox]

I like m11s a lot but its easy to hate when you have to do weapons so much

[jolly flume]

idk I like weapons

like I bitch and moan about bad patterns but it's fun to do

[thin fox]

like if youre stuck in m11s for 300+ pulls

youre going to hate it

[jolly flume]

ok well

yeah

lol

[wicked delta]

show me your footwork

[jolly flume]

but I think you would hate any savage mechanic if you had to do it for ultimate pull counts

[thin fox]

"ChatGPT, show me a weapons pattern that FF14 players will love!"

🤖 bzzt, bzzt... generating....

🤖 Your pattern is... sword, scythe, sword, scythe

[clear plume]

Idk idyllic is still fun

[spice path]

Idk. I dont think 11 is that tight. Its tight but like. I saw 3.5% enrage with many deaths and dds. It would be doable with a death and some dds for us at least... and I saw 2% in pf with a smn, reaper combo into which is apparently bad. Had deaths and dds too.

[jolly flume]

I love idyllic but I would also be sick of it if I was progging it for 350 pulls

[thin fox]

I think the main thing about 11

compared to a lot of fights this expansion

you actually have to work for uptime

for melee and ranged

[jolly flume]

shrug

like

obviously I dont think it's that tight

[thin fox]

prange is the only job where its free

but like

prange

[jolly flume]

but it's easily the most challenging check we've seen for a while

it's roughly equivalent to like

8p1 from last tier

as a third floor

[thin fox]

its def that its properly tuned but also you have to work for healer/melee/caster uptime

and pf is getting gatekept by the latter

[low hearth]

melee uptime

[thin fox]

half the dps doing 2-3k fewer rdps

healers doing like

[low hearth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vzgliad-2000-iardov

[thin fox]

god

2-10k

less rdps

than they should

[jolly flume]

healers just arent used to actually being required to do any amount of actual damage

you see this at the bottom end of the range in literally every fight

oh I'll just heal my dps doesn't matter that much

oh I'll just drop the gcd

"safety gaming"

[thin fox]

I think a problem is that people also just dont mit

so healers have to gcd heal more

I think I am the only tank in NA who sends mit during ultimate weapons

[jolly flume]

I mean gcd healing drops your dps but it will never ever

drop your dps by as much as a lot of the logs I've seen that enraged

[thin fox]

13k

[jolly flume]

not even that

like even 18k

is below "I'm gcd healing a lot"

and frankly they probably didn't even need most of those gcds

[thin fox]

it is crazy though how bad pf is at mit

i would hate to heal savage in pf

ultimate is w.e cuz if youre not following the mit plan u can just be booted

but so much shit in savage pf just doesnt get mitted

its like

raidwides

and thats about it

i have never seen a feint during weapons