endgame-lounge

[jolly flume]

3 more

[zealous meteor]

it is

[jolly flume]

or 2 more

idk

[rain geode]

I believe it's 7 so I'm right

[zealous meteor]

i know this because i forgot to get my holoblade week 2 and i have 4 now

so it's 2 more weeks for people who aren't idiots

[dapper zealot]

I forgor one week too

[rapid whale]

i believe i will shrimply win a coffer

(i did not)

[rain geode]

So if I really wanted to I could buy 1 tome piece for another job as long as I make sure I have 50 tomes left over

[clear plume]

Ik it’s 2 bc my new healer was talking about that’s how long until they get tome weapon and the static was like “I mean… if you have tomes you can have it next week?”

[rain geode]

I guess technically I do my M10S clear first to see if I win a universal tomestone early

[wintry elbow]

someone in game showed me the endgame practice thing that you guys withheld from me. Watch out for Soview now. 😄

[worn bluff]

what practice thing

[low hearth]

yo you gotta be dissected if u wipe the raid 3 pulls in arow in arena split

https://tenor.com/view/speed-mad-angry-ishowspeed-sheisty-gif-13492318246358992086

[wintry elbow]

i guess its an end game secret cuz even kinger didn't show me it lol

[worn bluff]

????????

[rapid whale]

?

[worn bluff]

players when you ask them to walk away from the other person with a marker on their head

[low hearth]

like donate your brain to science bro

[wintry elbow]

you can practice end game, so people can fix everything before they fight with 7 other people, which is what i needed to get better.

[worldly grotto]

I'm assuming SSS

!faq SSS

[storm frost]

Why Stone, Sky, Sea is a bad metric to measure DPS

1. SSS does not account for a job’s RDPS contribution via skills like Battle Voice
2. SSS is a 3 minute burst window where you adjust your rotation to fit in that period and does not reflect a realistic raid scenario
3. Different jobs will be in peaks and troughs of their burst windows
4. Different jobs have different SSS dps requirements
5. SSS is not accurately tuned for the jobs they are supposed to represent in most cases
6. 3 minutes is short enough to be able to be affected by lucky DH Crit bursts
7. Certain jobs gain dps by having additional party members like Dancer/Monk

[worldly grotto]

Which no one told you about since it's pretty crap

[rapid whale]

sss was by no means a secret and i regularly tell beginners to use it to learn their job but yea p crap

[low hearth]

training dummy

[rapid whale]

training dummy doesnt reset cd tho

[jolly flume]

rotation solver reborn

[wintry elbow]

i asked for end game practice and people kept saying there is none 🙁

[jolly flume]

because there is none

[echo ibex]

Time to grief and ashame myself

[rapid whale]

for mechanics there largely aren't until you mean simulations but those r usually ultimates only

[worldly grotto]

The best practice is legitimately getting into the fight

[jolly flume]

stone sky sea is an overgrown training dummy with inaccurate representations of the damage a job does

[rapid whale]

oo in a pf with a world progger

glhf dont become a youtube vid

[jolly flume]

2 world proggers

[random needle]

In fresh prog, dying is expected

[boreal pumice]

this guys getting a boost , get em

[jolly flume]

taco is kt's caster

[rapid whale]

ah

[jolly flume]

[worldly grotto]

You can practice your rotation till you're blue in the face and can do it in your sleep but it doesn't do anything for learning the mechanics of a specific fight

[worn bluff]

if you just mean basic rotation practice just go to a training dummy. or solo unsync a random raid from prior expansion

[worldly grotto]

And if you do want to practice your rotation training dummies are plentiful

[rapid whale]

i think the caveat you're missing @wintry elbow is that basic rotation stuff is not seen as "end game practice" and is more of an expectation

[jolly flume]

I miss when the jaw didnt have like 20 different bones that I cant tell apart

[dapper zealot]

Considering you were struggling with your rotation, SSS is not going to help improve anything

[rapid whale]

wtf are dt models that much more advanced

[jolly flume]

yeah

🥀

I used to be pretty decent at posing expressions

[sly basin]

when the other mother stitches other wybie's mouth

[jolly flume]

I never bothered to learn with all the new facial structures

[rapid whale]

you have to basically be a plastic surgeon for that shit lmao wtf

[worn bluff]

i thought that was a xenoblade screenshot for a sec

[boreal pumice]

gotta remeber everything in 14 is built togther with staples and duck tape

[wintry elbow]

so i am suppose to not kill the dummy?

[finite plank]

the hair does make it look like it's from xenoblade

[low hearth]

👉 ▶️

[jolly flume]

ive never played xenoblade mb

[random needle]

In SSS? No, the objective is to kill it in 3 minutes

[worn bluff]

how do you feel about catgirls with welsh accents

[jolly flume]

what the fuck is a glabella

[jolly flume]

catgirl 👎 welsh accent 👍

[worn bluff]

[rapid whale]

depending on the fight/job, killing or not killing the dummy might not always be an accurate representation of how you are performing eg dnc

[dapper zealot]

Like we've told you what to do and given bunch of advice but you're desperately trying to find some secret to magically overcome skill issue

[clear plume]

The part of skin between your nose and eyebrows isn’t it

[finite plank]

i got a single digit on p1 as well for vpr, who wants to guess

[clear plume]

Like where a unibrow grows

[jolly flume]

[worldly grotto]

Hope this helps!

[boreal pumice]

its the monster energy drink isnt it thats the secret , tell me what flavour gives the best results

[jolly flume]

white monster

incidentally that was my best friend's nickname in high school

!vanish

[dapper zealot]

nah you need gamersupps obviously

[clear plume]

Ik that fact bc my spa I go to does glabella waxing

[low hearth]

🤔

[wintry elbow]

like cj and maye look terrible but they can get better. I believe i can get better in end game 😄

[clear plume]

Gamersupps isn’t a drink, you just take a scoop when ur tired and let it dissolve on your tongue smh

[dapper zealot]

I haven't seen gfuel in ages, it's all gamersupps now

[random needle]

You put it under your tongue so your body absorbs it faster

[dapper zealot]

you don't take it as a suppository?

[clear plume]

You want your body to absorb it slower so it lasts the entire league of legends game though

[jolly flume]

boof that shit

[dapper zealot]

That's where your first issue lies

playing league

[finite plank]

dont you put it in your gums

[boreal pumice]

Got FT tomorrow how ded am I

[warped gate]

did someone say league of legends

[remote gate]

speaking of field operations I finally did BA after two years

BA is great though my group wiped because a tank had a laser line aoe blast us twice 🥀

[boreal pumice]

But did you get black holed?

[low hearth]

[jaunty pulsar]

the cosmic mounts from when it was introduced are cosmic boards, the two mecha robot and excavation thing and the mecha giraffe

?

[boreal pumice]

That’s right

[jaunty pulsar]

thanks

[remote gate]

yes 😭

[boreal pumice]

F

[remote gate]

sent me back to camp

fuckin tank with a clear was like "sorry guys was trying to reposition"

you repositioned the team back to spawn

[boreal pumice]

Worst I saw when doing it was the meteor postion being fucked up and had lb2 tank

I’m guessing you got unlucky with auto ress as well

[thin fox]

another healer in m11s who does 14k rdps

ADD ANOTHER TO THE BLACKLIST PILE

SOON ALL OF AETHER WILL BE BLACKLISTED

[boreal pumice]

Your black list is all ready full

[dapper zealot]

mb

[boreal pumice]

Hey a 0.1% improvement from last we saw

[thin fox]

we do 1 pull

[remote gate]

first spirit went off fine but the second didnt

[thin fox]

i notice we are 3% behind by arena split

[remote gate]

yeah this dude made it happen twice

[thin fox]

im like hm. 2 damage downs does not a 3% behind make.

i check the log

sch

[boreal pumice]

Oof 70% bad rng

[remote gate]

not all doom and gloomy though I got 15 obscures

[boreal pumice]

1 armor upgrade at least

[remote gate]

oh yeah I also got shin zantetsuken

gonna mb it

[finite plank]

what are obscures

[vestal hollow]

does anyone have improved tf raidplan for m10s

[thin fox]

improve this

[vestal hollow]

ok

[remote gate]

logograms that give eagle shot L, double edge L, etc

[finite plank]

i'd assume eureka, never heard of em

[remote gate]

ye eureka

[dapper zealot]

idk someone named claire has them

[thin fox]

do i do it chat

[remote gate]

great content but its a wall to climb into

[remote gate]

yes here's some spaghetti for good luck

[low hearth]

😭

@thin fox are u still in the mines dude 😭

fight is so ass

[thin fox]

yea i'm still in m11

324 pulls

[low hearth]

no way mfs standing in the half platform aoe

[thin fox]

wdym

like the middle aoe when arena split happens?

u can stand in it yea

doesnt kill u

[low hearth]

really?

nah

the other one in arena split

[thin fox]

idk wym then

[low hearth]

like the unsafe part of each of the platforms

[finite plank]

m10s?

[low hearth]

11s

[thin fox]

u know what fuck it if i'm gonna be paying for an m11 clear i'm gonna ask for a mt so i can at least get the baby role

[random needle]

Sorry, I lost my eyes the other day

[finite plank]

i dont recall another half arena split with a nono zone in m11s

do you mean the meteor that's about to sweep melee or range area?

[low hearth]

yea

[finite plank]

that's likely not understanding the mech fully

[stray forge]

[trim frost]

if you think about it act 3 is just a 4-way arena split

[winged spindle]

There's nothing to do with Orbital Omen mechanic, I can't do it x( first time I hard stuck that much on a mechanic

[craggy marsh]

Arena split isn't too bad but people seem to forget that Blue can go on either side

So they only bother studying up how to do one side and then get confused

[limpid edge]

is inner or outer standard?

[trim frost]

find second intersection and hug flanks
move through boss
move back
done

[trim frost]

neither lowkey

you really just gotta ask the group

i don't think a lot of people know which markers they have either

[finite plank]

i still find the strat of just taking the fire bleed just to be with blue boy funny as hell of a method

[winged spindle]

Yes, but I always die

I just failed it actually XD

I don't understand where I must start and where I must finish...

[trim frost]

i literally

just said

.

[finite plank]

valcors did

[remote gate]

by shuiziba

[trim frost]

hello where xtremes

[limpid edge]

they fight as ONE

[winged spindle]

I always go in and go back?

Ok, I think I can do it

[trim frost]

yes

ignore everything else in the mechanic

[winged spindle]

I struggle on this boss, it's weird

I'm not used to struggle like this, it's so irritating x(

[worn bluff]

it’s an execution based fight

[limpid edge]

the extwemes fight as one

[worn bluff]

the first two floors didn’t require much execution

[winged spindle]

I mean, I usually don't have issue with raid

But idk why, I'm struggling on this one

[low hearth]

pop sprint gang

[deft yarrow]

despite matching my prog... well, progress from m10s, m11s has not been as frustrating
mostly because everyone has been doing pretty well in mechanics, its really just that damage check

[low hearth]

i got you with the tech 💯

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420652632454070304/1460350938601619612/image.png?ex=696e824b&is=696d30cb&hm=d44a85bcf6dcc46a68730d950adc5730a1cdcc80d55375baa080e5cf82fae9bf&

stand in the green

like a lil above or below the hitbox arrow

[worn bluff]

i don’t use sprint for orbital omen. just treat it like a regular FF14 snapshot except that there’s two

[low hearth]

u dont need sprint yea

[worn bluff]

it’s possible to go back too quickly

[low hearth]

u can never be to o early only too late

[deft yarrow]

need to pump it up somehow (im the monk)

[low hearth]

move at the end of the cast

or near it

[worn bluff]

if you only take one step and immediately go back you can get clipped by second, but yeah it’s rare

[remote gate]

by artctrlcee

[deft yarrow]

the only like improvement I can see is super greeding during trophy weapons or switching to melee uptime stampede strat

[worn bluff]

what’s super greeding trophy weapons

[winged spindle]

@trim frost Oh it seems that I succeeded

[worn bluff]

as opposed to regular greed

[rapid whale]

dam u actually saved it im proud

[low hearth]

good trech

tech

[trim frost]

yay

[winged spindle]

I succeed again

You saved me

[midnight furnace]

Man now Parallel Aerial is giving me trouble

Its either me or someone else screws up

And i cant really pre-position for the line in case i get screwed due to not stretching enough

[worn bluff]

you can preposition by standing opposite the bosses after each dash

then if you’re not tethered go back to safe spot

[low hearth]

yea

[craggy marsh]

Always preposition just in case

[worn bluff]

basically right after each dash start moving as if you’ll get a tether

[craggy marsh]

The first tethers are the only scary ones imo bc I see too many people get rammed by both brothers

[midnight furnace]

Hum im gonna try, tough mech for a BLM kinda

[dapper zealot]

sign me up for that

[worn bluff]

it’s like one gcd before you find out if you get a tether, so if you don’t it’s easy to move back

[limpid edge]

i dont like MT, for m11s, gotta run so far for proteans 🙁

[worn bluff]

but gaining one gcd worth of movement towards tether spot is valuable if you do get one

[limpid edge]

OT and melees got it so chill

[craggy marsh]

Let's wipe together, bro

I want to go into M11 but 10 wore me out

[worn bluff]

after progging m11 i wish i was still trapped in m10 instead

[craggy marsh]

Im scared

[limpid edge]

is hector outer?

[thin fox]

hector shows outer i think

[worn bluff]

it relies on you being focused but also it’s not that fun of a fight IMO

so it’s more like locking in for a job than a video game

probably least favorite raid this expansion so far

[winged spindle]

[worn bluff]

but i didn’t do cruiserweight

[dapper zealot]

I NEED CODE

[thin fox]

where are the shield healers in NA brother

[winged spindle]

I'll check if I still have them haha

Ah I only have the cat x(

You want it?

Oh nvm I have it too

[dapper zealot]

I alreayd have the cat

[jolly flume]

shut up and know your place

🗣️

[low hearth]

Oh dear! The challenger has fallen out of the ring!

[thin fox]

someone asked if they could join my c41 party

as a fellow enrager

i check their tomestone

healer who does 15k

[finite plank]

xiva

?

[vast jacinth]

i stopped m11s kill attempts for this week , i got tilted

[dapper zealot]

https://pastebin.com/BB7Cx349

[craggy marsh]

A shame bc M10 was really fun

[worn bluff]

yeah m10 is cool

[trim frost]

it is kinda obnoxious to have to manually delete shared strategy boards when you get inundated with memes that you don't want

[finite plank]

run

[low hearth]

mb

[dapper zealot]

we need more meme storage

[remote gate]

you dont like having an amongus taking up space on your slides

[vast jacinth]

god its so hilarious, the designers of the strategy board must look at the memes and be like erm

i think in total i have 2 actual strats

1 m4s and one uptime doomtrain one

[worn bluff]

the only actual strat board i’ve ever shared is the m11s spreads with the message “please stop killing each other”

[vast jacinth]

peak

arena split prog made me loose my mind, now kill party are my nemesis

:)

especially melees who greed and fail

[worn bluff]

i hit enrage with an arena split party but they got 7 DDs on orbital omen and 4 deaths somewhere else

[vast jacinth]

juup

kill partys are the same though ngl

[jolly flume]

ive been gposing for 4 hours my eyes hurt

this is harder than raiding

[stray forge]

i took a short break and back to bj bros mines

[worn bluff]

it’s funny bc i think for some people orbital omen is the last mechanic they end up cleaning up

bc it’s so recoverable it doesn’t matter until enrage

[winged spindle]

@dapper zealot I sent it to you in dm

[jolly flume]

it is so not hard 😭

[rapid whale]

theres a couple strat boards in 12

act 3, rep 2, towers

[stray forge]

joined a party with people from crystal and this what their tomestone look like

i didnt even know you could customize your page wth

[rapid whale]

theres some CURSED stuff on tomestone

[stray forge]

chiyo has a fully customized page ☠️ hes gone full librarian

[thin fox]

[limpid edge]

my royal decree!!!!

[winged spindle]

@trim frost I got a shitty pattern, I couldn't go through and come back xD

[trim frost]

there is no shitty pattern

[limpid edge]

weapons prog

[trim frost]

2nd cross return always works regardless of pattern

[winged spindle]

Well, the intersection was on the same line XD

[trim frost]

that cannot happen

[winged spindle]

hum

[trim frost]

you misread the mechanic

[stray forge]

hrm

[winged spindle]

Probably... I shall mute my headset too fr

[trim frost]

you quite literally ignore everything in the mechanic except the second intersection

then assuming your main tank did in fact hold the boss north for the mechanic it's always the same movement

[winged spindle]

Yeah, I still need training and react

[limpid edge]

am i playin too safe by not uptimin weapons?

mayhaps

if it's claymore to scythe as MT clockwise in ult weaps, i think i have to sprint for it

that one is scary

[worn bluff]

it’s not bad on 2.5 but i save sprint for sword into scythe

[limpid edge]

i dont need sprint for omen anyway

[stray forge]

we calling it the "papers please" strat now?

[limpid edge]

melee dps better be uptimin tho

we need em

all da Dps!!!!!!

they got it chill

[worn bluff]

the only annoying thing is weaving 30s ogcds while uptiming ulti weapons

on pld if you drift them more than 1 GCD you can’t get them off before triple meteor thing

maybe 2 GCD idk

[jolly flume]

CUTE BOOK NERD

[stray forge]

Librarian

[jolly flume]

bungo did some of those for me

im trying to reawaken my gpose neurons

wip because my game crashed mid pose

[zealous meteor]

whats wrong with having a fully customized tomestone.......

[jolly flume]

[finite plank]

do not forget where 1st is and stupidly stand in it first

when crossing into 2

[stray forge]

You just wouldn’t except it from some ppl

I didn’t say there was anything wrong with it

Now I wanna find tobys

[finite plank]

necks are hard

[jolly flume]

the venn diagram of hc raiders and people that are way too into their ocs is

pretty overlapped ngl

[low hearth]

gunbreaker players when it comes time to press their invuln

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-show-speed-stupid

[jolly flume]

https://tomestone.gg/character/47621713/maple-quintus

🥀

[stray forge]

🥀

[true beacon]

[zealous meteor]

https://tomestone.gg/character/57277142/ejusana-raha my page is so cool. do not look at my parses

(it's not cool)

[limpid edge]

rafflesia!!

[jolly flume]

why do lockouts even exist in this game

I've had to reinstance twice

[limpid edge]

something server resources

[zealous meteor]

the instance server software has a memory leak they never figured out

so it boots you out after 2-3 hours max

so it can restart

[jolly flume]

please tell me this is not the actual reason

because I'm not gonna lie I'd believe it from SE

[stray forge]

that sounds completely made up

[craggy marsh]

i'm still pissed that they have the shitty system of "Oops you cleared so you can't help people without fucking them over for gear"

[zealous meteor]

my source is that i made it the fuck up

[jolly flume]

this is the same game where putting a glamour dresser in player housing takes down the server

so

[craggy marsh]

this is also the same game where you can't open up a treasure map while riding passenger on someone's mount

have to open it before you hop on or else it doesn't work

[zealous meteor]

i think the more likely reason is so it's more likely you'll take a break after 2 hours of prog

[craggy marsh]

bc of "reasons"

[craggy marsh]

mandated shower break

[limpid edge]

RrAAAAHHH

[zealous meteor]

like of course it doesn't stop you from reinstancing
but it might make you go "oh it's been 2 hours. i should go pee"

[stray forge]

m10s group not filling

not like this

[thin fox]

like many things its probably bot related

[low hearth]

whys mfs putting up 775 parties holy shit

[zealous meteor]

"i don't want people who haven't gotten lucky with gear drops"

[quick verge]

deserved for unlucky

[vast jacinth]

get lucky smh

[dull drum]

um technically they only need one drop

surely you get one

[low hearth]

Ok not being 775 next week is kinda griefing

[finite plank]

775 is me

1 raid item, rest tomes

or all tomes

[tawdry delta]

this twitter thread is unhinged

fucking normal raid parse rats

[limpid edge]

my reign is absolute!!!!!!!!!!

[craggy marsh]

people take normal raid parses seriously?

[worn bluff]

it’s ok i can equip a non bis 790 and lower my dps but at least i meet the 775 requirement

[low hearth]

First, I shall take your measure. 😏

[craggy marsh]

22 meters

[tawdry delta]

fortunately i always play war and have savage gear so i can do w/e i want if they decide to grief cuz i instapull

[remote gate]

wait was this fight being restarted over and over again?

[tawdry delta]

a dps was ignoring the 12s timer

[low hearth]

Yea 😭

[worn bluff]

if you’re going to ignore a count down it better be insta pull. if you pull when the timer is 5 it just looks like you can’t count

[remote gate]

bruh

[craggy marsh]

Bro who needs a countdown to parse in normal

just hit buttons and you'll get an orange

[tawdry delta]

most of the replies on twitter were telling op they should have respected the timer

like bruh

[worn bluff]

people who wait for countdown: that’s fine
people who instapull: that’s fine

people who pull mid timer: are you ok

[low hearth]

Setting a countdown timer in normal raids

[tawdry delta]

but my opener (proceeds to drift all cooldowns by minutes anyways)

[zealous meteor]

"MY OPENER!" [drifts burst into next expansion]

[worn bluff]

i sometimes see people do a 5s timer the first day when normal raid drops but otherwise it’s pretty rare

[craggy marsh]

Ya a timer when it's day 1 I understand

but a timer 1 month later?

Just hit the buttons and you'll be fine

even better when someone begs for a timer and they still fuck up the mechs anyways making the timer pointless for them

[worn bluff]

i feel like the day 1 timer isn’t even for any real reason other than vibes

[craggy marsh]

ya

vibes is what a timer in normal should be for

it's like doing a timer in alliance

[tawdry delta]

the ready check is you accepting the queue

the timer is the baby gate dropping

[craggy marsh]

accepts ready check
"Sorry brb"

[limpid edge]

who here is BABBY

[raw sand]

they gotta get that blue in normals

sorry guys

[tawdry delta]

btw i looked up their log and the ppl who griefed are still stuck in m10 and the person who pulled is at end of m12p1

[thin fox]

love when someone who barely cleared m11s a few hours ago joins my merc party and griefs for 50 minutes

[low hearth]

Yo !

Does drk invuln second or first

[thin fox]

usually people go mt first ot sercond

[low hearth]

Ok

Drk invulning second tower is fucking annoying

[limpid edge]

alright who's leaving!?

[worn bluff]

let me guess the other people left but the griefer tried to stay

[thin fox]

no they were the one to be like gtg lol

[boreal pumice]

I have been exposed !vanish

[finite plank]

? anything in particular about it

i thought drk invuln is the best for this case due to LD's activation conditions

[limpid edge]

long live da king

[dull drum]

pt sure all the invulns on second tower are equivalent its just drk has more leniency on the first tower if you wanna rawdog it no share for safety

assuming they didnt invuln the first WOF

as long as you share one hit second tower and then pop invuln after you see that hit tick you’re gucci

[dull drum]

how come

[jolly flume]

its kinda free you dont even have to time it

just tbn the first hit and you wont die

(with cotank)

[dull drum]

had to go through 2 hr journey on alt to clear m11s

so fun

“i thought your bolide was up for first tower after you invulned wall of fire”

i almost got 3 day banned

for what i said

[worn bluff]

40% should be up for last tower right? so even if you accidentally take 3 hits you should be ok?

[dull drum]

you mean for TTP or TTT

[worn bluff]

PTT

[dull drum]

yeah itd be up

[worn bluff]

idk i heard PF does PTT

[dull drum]

it doesnt hurt as bad as you think with the tank duo (for shared autos)

[dull drum]

pt sure healer mits arent fully back

iirc

[dull drum]

oblation + tbn is enough to live comfy with 70% more or less

[jolly flume]

@wicked delta I've had this pose brainworm in my head for like 3 months so I'm glad I finally got it out

[jolly flume]

I mean

it depends where you spend them

[dull drum]

im sure pf needs it for ecliptic with the amount of fucking terrorists when its two way fire ball

[jolly flume]

30s are back 60s arent and 120s you probably haven't spent at all since arena split

[dull drum]

like two way fireball aint that deep but lo and behold

dogshit raidplan

[worn bluff]

actually i think 40% is back for first tower if you use on great wall

[dull drum]

bro being warrior must suck balls this tier

you are legitimate dead weight

in comparison to other tanks

[finite plank]

TTP is much safer for mits as it's a lot more time to pass

[dull drum]

yeah

everyone has anything

[raw sand]

https://tenor.com/view/holo-wise-wolf-holo-the-wise-wolf-spice-and-wolf-ookami-to-koushinryou-gif-1190103248461126169

[dull drum]

the only caveat is its the pot window if your pt potted at split cast

[raw sand]

its peak

[limpid edge]

what you got against warrior!!!!!?

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAH

[worn bluff]

i mean i don’t mind if it means i invuln first tower and brain off

[jolly flume]

[stray forge]

why does m10s literally melt your brain when you do it multiple times

[wicked delta]

theyre so cute... maybe ill get back to reading peak

[jolly flume]

READ ITTTT

[stray forge]

dont read it carry me through m10s

[raw sand]

two straight dudes, without their shirts on

[jolly flume]

how about I carry you through m10s if you read it

[raw sand]

flexing on ur party

[stray forge]

Idek what it is but I'm reading too many things already

[raw sand]

spice and wolf is peak

its chill to read

[jolly flume]

light novel, manga, anime

they're all peak

[craggy marsh]

Carry me through m11

Fresh

[jolly flume]

if you read it

[craggy marsh]

[craggy marsh]

I read Rance sorry

I read peak

[remote gate]

there wouldnt happen to be a melee available for a book run in m9s lurking is there

nvm

[stray forge]

I thought rance was like a lewd game or some shit 💀

you telling me its a book now

[craggy marsh]

well

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[stray forge]

I might be a doofus I keep forgetting to check if its reverse or double dip on split

[sinful brook]

could try focus targetting water

you have to do it after deep aerial tho

[jolly flume]

yeah I forget that shit too ngl

just gotta remind yourself to read the enemy list after fire spreads

[raw sand]

Am I basic for thinking frieren is still peak

maybe goat

[stray forge]

I mean it’s true but it’s also basic

[jolly flume]

I like frieren a lot but it's not my goat

[raw sand]

Give me my vanilla extract

[jolly flume]

I think my goat is pretty obvious

[raw sand]

Yeye

[stray forge]

Not my goat either

That reminds me I have like 8 lns I have to read

[sinful brook]

i couldn't possibly guess what chiyo's goat is

[stray forge]

[sinful brook]

its not really that obvious

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1027288796099793006.webp?size=48&name=clueless&lossless=true

[jolly flume]

[raw sand]

Its clearly my hero academia

with protagonist, wolf girl

[boreal pumice]

me just watching one piece , idk anime

[stray forge]

Isn’t his pfp Alicia Melchiott from Valkyrie chronicles

[jolly flume]

blocked

[stray forge]

Wtf your alt is also healer

[boreal pumice]

its a wolf?

[raw sand]

its a wolf healer

there are layers to this cosplay

[jolly flume]

she'd be a botanist technically but I can't be asked to unlock those jobs on her

[wicked delta]

ffxiv players when they have to play the game

[raw sand]

u must be lore accurate

[stray forge]

Isn’t his pfp Estelle Bright from trails

[jolly flume]

grrr

[finite plank]

so

it's a warrior

[boreal pumice]

speed running chiyos block list

[raw sand]

you mean Wise Wolf Holo

[boreal pumice]

botanist you say? so you have to play reaper and listen to our lord and saviour cooley

[jolly flume]

do not invoke his name

[stray forge]

True

[thin fox]

god I just

cannot clear

even if I pay for a clear

I dont clear

[stray forge]

☠️

[rapid whale]

Pf gacha hates you

[raw sand]

invoke the reverse psychology for gacha

"Lol I dont even care about clearing anyway" before u start the raid

[stray forge]

Okay 5 minutes and back to pf mines

[limpid edge]

body language in PF seems scary

i cant tell if it's workin

[stray forge]

What

People in here are starting to lose their minds

Oh no….

[limpid edge]

hmm

[stray forge]

Where’s tew liter

Do you think they tried progging m11s after they said they wouldn’t

[rapid whale]

Who knows

[stray forge]

@rain geode pspsps are you in m11s

[low hearth]

@rain geode pspsps are you in m11s

[dull drum]

@thin fox shoulda invited u for our alt 1 chest ln ngl

mb

[rapid whale]

Gg Stella hates inx

[thin fox]

I did 3 separate parties of m11s merc and none cleared

[low hearth]

its a hard fight bro

i think

[thin fox]

whats the fflogs/tomestone snoop plugin btw

[low hearth]

pfradar yo

[stray forge]

THERES A PLOGON NOW

[thin fox]

there's been one for ages

[rapid whale]

Now

[stray forge]

Oh

[thin fox]

i just didn't have it cuz i moved ocmputers recently

[stray forge]

My first tier

[rapid whale]

Ya been around for months

[dull drum]

^

[thin fox]

i am not seeing a pf radar

[dull drum]

pt sure its not a dalamud plugin

[stray forge]

It’s prob one of the unofficial ones

[dull drum]

you need github repo link

[thin fox]

hmu

[low hearth]

u need the link

[limpid edge]

im in a situation where i wont progress unless i prog lie

cant even get reps for arena split, people keep wipin to weapons

[low hearth]

😭

[rapid whale]

Insert looper meme but it's all weapons

[stray forge]

when you join an M10S split to enrage party and the leader has this on their tomestone I had to make sure it wasn't M11S split party for a second

[dull drum]

could be an alt

[scarlet lintel]

could be alt jobbing

i have been trolling alt jobbing as healer

[stray forge]

[thin fox]

My opinion on M11S right now is that you need top tier healers to clear in pf

[low hearth]

man im never clearing m11s

oh well

it was fun

[thin fox]

if your healers are doing <19k

youre just not clearing

[finite plank]

whm does a lot of damage i think for a healer

[jolly flume]

do whm players do a lot of damage though

[thin fox]

I would definitely say this is the hardest savage dps check since P8S and its probably the hardest DPS check in the entire expansion incl FRU

[rain geode]

I'm at work

Well leaving work

[finite plank]

assuming they're an actual whm player and not a healer that can't dps, yes

[low hearth]

dead ahh?

[finite plank]

i think it's reasonable to think whm is strong till more people are geared then ast would be better

[jolly flume]

entirely depends on the gear distribution in your party

[finite plank]

they should be doing more than 20k

[jolly flume]

which is just rng in pf so no point thinking about it

[thin fox]

if you're in a static where you have a gearfed melee with tome weapon you have so much leeway in m11s

but with pf with 'average players' esp with people being unlucky w rolls

its absurdly tight

[low hearth]

just need a clean run bruh

[thin fox]

lol no

[finite plank]

i agree, im someone who has only won 1 item as a dps and it's a non bis accessory

[thin fox]

you need a clean run AND people to be pumping

[finite plank]

but it is not as hard as p8s imo

[low hearth]

wtf

[thin fox]

i agree but its def hardest since

[finite plank]

i beat up the tyrant again just to get rid of the single digit number

because i died there

[jolly flume]

I mean

every single enrage log I've seen has had pretty severe underperformers or deaths

or both

I don't think it's unreasonable

[thin fox]

not saying its unreasonable per se just pointing out its relative difficulty

[jolly flume]

it's just hard to roll the dice 8 times and get a party in pf that doesn't have a treno citizen in it

unfortunately

[thin fox]

like yes there are underperformers but the underperformance is punished wasy more here

[jolly flume]

me when I orbital omen

[finite plank]

yeah, it's a strange balance where if you do get geared people and they die, it's still fine, and if you get undergeared people, it becomes very difficult

i'd still say i actually got carried for m12s because the other 3 dps that came in all had tome weapons

even if it's a 6/8

there were no deaths, but we still saw enrage cast + im playing an unoptimized vpr + i am the most undergeared and a dps

[low hearth]

Impossible fight bruh

[thin fox]

but yeah idk. i'm pulling my weight. i'm doing 24.5-25.5k adps.

i'm doing mechs. i mit.

i mit more than most tanks.

[finite plank]

it's definitely not as tight as m11s, but m11s is strangely very difficult in a situation where if undergeared, I actually need 2 lb3s to clear m11

[wicked delta]

im crying is this the standard now

[dull drum]

[wicked delta]

can you outdps treno citizen

[dull drum]

24k adps

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[finite plank]

0 deaths, 2 dds, it was still this tight for reclears

total dps, 234.8k

[thin fox]

e.g. this is my most recent <1% enrage

i'm doing my part !!

[finite plank]

i actually stopped using feint before orbital/meteor because i want to make that lb gen happen

[dull drum]

mine had 1 death no DDs the death was a samurai

was relatively ok

[finite plank]

if you can somehow not over mit by accident and just have enough for me to have lb up on orbital? thank you, i can safely say, there will be an lb3 at the end

as insurance

[dull drum]

oh we had to double melee LB in the pf pt though

LB3 + 2 iirc

[finite plank]

that's more normal and easier to get

lb3 twice is more harder due to accidental overmit

[thin fox]

dude i see some ppl be like "oh we need two lb3s to clear" and i'm like brother lb3+2 vs lb3+3 is not the reason youre not fucking clearing its because your healer is doing 5k less rdps than they should be

[finite plank]

im not sure if bloodbath even generates such lb gauge after 1 hp

[thin fox]

stah did you see my m11s img

i don't think i can post here directly prooobably

[jolly flume]

nah

it counts as a regen

[dull drum]

send it

[thin fox]

ill dm

[clear plume]

yesterday my static carried a 34k rdps vpr to a clear bro didnt even have pentamelds

[clear plume]

only gcd heals do, not even ogcds

[low hearth]

Where the m11s avengers at bruh

[clear plume]

eos does, gcd heals do, nothing else

[dull drum]

💀

[trim frost]

kardia/philo counts as a gcd heal right

[rain geode]

Well seeing as I was at work no

[clear plume]

why would kardia count as a gcd heal to you

[jolly flume]

[finite plank]

i think this dps is reasonable with variance, it was possible for a reaper to cost us a p1 m12s enrage just because they critted absolutely none of their big hits

and there's me an undergeared dps

[jolly flume]

your healers are healing the boss

[finite plank]

least i did 36.7k rdps...

[thin fox]

18-19k is good

compared to

average pf

[jolly flume]

you can easily do over 20k

I don't have gear

[thin fox]

compared to

[jolly flume]

I'm breaking 21

[thin fox]

average pf

[trim frost]

another sage L

[jolly flume]

well sure

but that wasn't the point

[dull drum]

ok but you're S class hero

these are F tier bums

😭😭

[jolly flume]

rpr not critting communio isn't the reason why you're losing 3.5k dps from your healers

[dull drum]

HOLY SHIT

67

[jolly flume]

I don't know the numbers for other roles as well so I won't speak on that

[finite plank]

they're actually 90 upon clearing, they did 20-21.3k rdps from multiple clears

im not sure why that log says 18k

[jolly flume]

I'm looking at a kill log right there that says they did 18 and 19k

idk lol

[finite plank]

but their overall shows this

[low hearth]

Yo that dps check is way too tight

[finite plank]

i checked the log, we did get the most unluckiest rpr run myself

the xiva was fine

all they got were dhits at most

[clear plume]

Yeah idk week 1 my group cleared it with 7 DD and a death so I just don’t think I’ll ever agree it’s an unfair check but I’ll eat those words now that I’m starting a pf alt maybe

[finite plank]

i dont know how bad rpr has it, but we'd normally clear the dps check fine

[vestal hollow]

yes you will eat your words

[finite plank]

with the very same rpr

[jolly flume]

I cleared it during tower 3 on mch with a death and no overmelds in 771 so uh

lol

[finite plank]

infact, we did a run with the most geared being a whm and a full crafted sch and it passed fine for m12s p1

[low hearth]

so pf mfs ain’t pumping bruh??

[clear plume]

I think pressing buttons during weapons is just a lost art to many people

Moving and attacking at once

[jolly flume]

it's a tight check

sure as hell ain't unfair though

lol

like I said before that my fc has a c41 ticket system and we've been flooded with 11 requests

so I've seen a lot of these enrage logs

and without fail there's always people just doing no damage

it might feel unfair to you because you're pumping and everyone else isn't

but that doesn't make it any less objectively fair

[finite plank]

i still find it funny by sheer rng, i can dcrit hyosho for 390k~ with tech step involved, not sure if it's the det diff

i dont remember the other buffs, maybe a sch was involved

[jolly flume]

my miseries dcrit for nearly 350k now with a max-1 buff comp

kinda goes hard

[quick verge]

have you tried mind controlling the 7 other party members

faker would do that

be like faker

[finite plank]

already does more than my average hyosho that sits at 340k dcrit without dncer buffs

infact, it's a meager 270k without buffs

...i dont think i have any clears where hyosho finally decides to hit that 390k+ dcrit

[quick verge]

did you try having dnc drg sch comp

[clear plume]

Weve reached the golden era of pf

[finite plank]

actually, yes, but we tossed the dp to the blm since im on lb duty

but that wiped

[quick verge]

kick the blm

[finite plank]

i think

[quick verge]

my dopamine > everything else

[spice path]

im wondering wtf PF are on for it to take no deaths to hit clear. we had 10 deaths and 5 DDs, and still hit 11 %. i dont think we'd need to clear up 10 deaths to make up 11%, especially once we optimize. and we have only healer buff. no dps buff. and havent been potting.

[limpid edge]

at last im at the wall

DA WALL

[finite plank]

yeah, just a little bit more dps needed at 11%

boss a lil bit too high at 11%

[thin fox]

another 13k healer has hit the arcadion

[trim frost]

can copilot leave me alone please

[limpid edge]

how does one clear m11s in pf, i cant figure it out

[thin fox]

you don't

[mossy eagle]

There is no hope any more

It's joever

[low hearth]

Gotta wait til next week bro

[torn kindle]

Wait for week (insert number here) where everyone has 785+ average and can do arena split properly

[low hearth]

[torn kindle]

(They never will)

[finite plank]

ah, 393k hyosho involved dp + ast

[sleek moon]

Well no 11 clear this week for me

I can't be bothered with pfing outside raid hours

[boreal pumice]

i thought it was monday for a mo

[low hearth]

last tome piece + m9 accessory

M11s should be free bro

[finite plank]

i swear i hit a 396k before

[dull drum]

stack your pf with compotent people

even with 0 gear

[finite plank]

get the koreans

[jolly flume]

raid notes in vscode

🗣️

[stray forge]

split to clear

make it to split once out of like 14 runs

🙂

[jolly flume]

dw once you're in the enrage parties you'll just never make it past split instesd

[rain geode]

M10s?

[stray forge]

save me

[limpid edge]

ive been heartbroken

[rain geode]

It's a hard pill to swallow but my best advice is if you in an arena split prog party and you don't hit it in 3 pulls leave

5 if your feeling generous.

[craggy marsh]

I feel like this is pretty good for Holy Spirit gaming™

[finite plank]

cleave better

it's good enough

[craggy marsh]

Was playing it super safe during arena split

but i'm confident next time after seeing how shrimple it actually is

[stray forge]

this description is such a huge red flag but there are no other parties

[craggy marsh]

yeah that's a big no

[raw sand]

"we are static that imploded"

[dapper zealot]

come on pls

rip didn't get it

[limpid edge]

is it worth a lot

[craggy marsh]

LONG LIVE THE KING

PROTECTED BY HIS ALMIGHTY DPS CHECK

[stray forge]

i am no longer

[dapper zealot]

omg beaten by 1

[limpid edge]

classic

i dont trust unless 99

[stray forge]

going to start joining M11S fresh parties and assume they're still on M10S

[sleek moon]

all our pulls today look like cat ears

[stray forge]

oh no

abby has lost it

[sleek moon]

damn that second cat looks like some weird 6 eyed thing

maybe iam losing it

[echo ibex]

uwu

[stray forge]

where the heck do you even get popcorn recipe

why does the website not say damnit SE

[finite plank]

you need to get scrips to turn in for master culinarian

[stray forge]

oh....

[sleek moon]

yes a weaver

or thats a regular bug

weavers have big heads

[dapper zealot]

ayoooo

[shy obsidian]

okay samurai's kinda driving me insane for savage

idk if it's too late to switch since everybody and their mom wants more item levels than 770 right now

surely my habits shouldn't change too much for dancer but jesus christ i'll be blocked from so many parties

especially if I'm not getting all the gear i need

[dapper zealot]

gearing up now is gonna be ass

[shy obsidian]

that's the issue!!!

[wicked delta]

Idk maybe you should just learn mechanics more

[shy obsidian]

speakin of gear
i wonder if I should get the Bygone Brass Blade for samurai...

[wicked delta]

Like yeah you can switch jobs but

[shy obsidian]

that moment when you understand the mechanics completely but for some reason your execution is really inconsistent

[wicked delta]

Wdym for some reason

[shy obsidian]

like damn
I can do a mechanic correctly a billion times but then I mess it up a billion more times

something something BUZZSAWS

[finite plank]

if you arent clearing 12 anytime soon, get the tome wep

[shy obsidian]

like I feel like I'm the guy who causes wipes all the time

[wicked delta]

Idk I feel like thats more a case of “you need to study” if anything

If you’re constantly running into saws

Switching to dancer wont make you automatically dodge saws

Its not magically more difficult for melees

[finite plank]

tome wep cost 500 tomes as well which is annoying if your job already relies on tomes

[wicked delta]

I did M9S (im assuming thats what ur talking about) on tank and dancer

[shy obsidian]

Also for some reason i feel like it’s easier clearing with randoms than with a static… not that they’re doing anything wrong but it’s probably just a mental thing for me

[finite plank]

nin needs to spend almost 2k tomes for needing pants and top... and shoes

[shy obsidian]

Like I haven’t cleared with my static for two weeks now but I can manage much easier and clear with randoms…

[wicked delta]

is it like an issue of expectations or something

[shy obsidian]

idek

[remote gate]

imma be honest kikio and i mean no insult at all to you but you ate several bleeds and greeded a lot

[shy obsidian]

True :(

[worn bluff]

idk this is going to sound like an ai generated response but consistency at mechanics is a combination of personal ability (some people learn faster than others) and time spent with the fight/job/raiding in general

[remote gate]

para couldnt keep up with you while trying to make sure mango and I were okay

[wicked delta]

You are AI generated prepare to die

[worn bluff]

[shy obsidian]

I don’t think I’m fit for melee DPS lol

[molten moon]

I don't think it's a melee problem

[wicked delta]

That’s definitely not a melee problem

[molten moon]

You'll have the same issues dodging on phys range

[wicked delta]

You’re playing incorrectly

[molten moon]

Since you're meant to aoe them too

[wicked delta]

Phys range will not fix that

[zealous meteor]

i had a lot of trouble dodging the saws at first too, and i'm a healer and can go anywhere in the arena

[worn bluff]

if you don’t know how to greed properly that’s partly an experience problem. getting a feel for greeding through easier content and fresh prog

[wicked delta]

I think maybe its best if you practice through easier stuff

[molten moon]

What works for me is realising the vertical saws move in a pattern

[wicked delta]

Hell

Go into M9 normal

[worn bluff]

you shouldn’t be having problems greeding in earlier prog points you should be sorting it out as you prog those points

[finite plank]

depends on job for melees

[molten moon]

It's always side safe first, then mid safe, then side safe and repeat

[wicked delta]

You start getting a feel of what you can get away with

[molten moon]

First 2 sets are free aoes

Can target the boss to cleave all 3

[remote gate]

you can also just use eyes...

[sinful brook]

Well if your execution is inconsistent you don't really know the mechanics then do you

[shy obsidian]

Wait what are ya talking about

[remote gate]

the movement of the saws

[molten moon]

Vertical saws always move down the mid first

[shy obsidian]

Yeah I understand how they move

[molten moon]

Then they move down the side

[shy obsidian]

But sometimes I just forget that they’re coming

[finite plank]

melee : pylon till out of range > balls > boss

the pylon will be a reminder to make you move

[shy obsidian]

No I’m pretty sure it’s the outsides first and then the insides

[molten moon]

Oh wait yeah

But it does spawn in a pattern

So you already know where you need to be for the next

[shy obsidian]

See I know when and where they’re moving but sometimes it just disappears from my memory and then.

[finite plank]

i dont know how the saws spawn specifically, because they're slow enough for me to move out of the way

[molten moon]

200 ping gaming

On a caster

[sinful brook]

Yeah it's not super crazy you just

Don't stand in front of them

[zealous meteor]

they alternate in and out right?

[wicked delta]

Idk its a use eyes mechanic

[sleek moon]

i feel if you forget that they are coming you'll forget regardless if you're melee or ranged

[wicked delta]

You gotta learn to look around

[shy obsidian]

You think I don’t?

[molten moon]

But yeah if you're still getting clipped by them consistently, it just means you're not familiar enough with the fight yet

[wicked delta]

Well if you’re getting hit then clearly not

[sleek moon]

so its just... practicing

[wicked delta]

😭

[sleek moon]

training yourself to always look for them

[wicked delta]

You admitted you forget

[molten moon]

Or aren't familiar enough with your job so you're glued to your hotbars

[wicked delta]

That means you’re not paying attention

[shy obsidian]

Also uh
Sometimes I forget the priority for the cells and I get hella disoriented when the ranged or the healer goes to the one im going to lol

[molten moon]

Yeah you need more reps with the fight

[rapid whale]

if ur going to the range/healer one that means you did the prio wrong yea

shid habbins is ok

the important part is overcoming mistakes

[wicked delta]

Look I just think you need to study mechanics and do more content on your job

You’re still learning

Switching now would only be detrimental to the process imo

[zealous meteor]

yeah i would not switch roles while progging a fight

[rapid whale]

nuh uh i 100 parsed my first pull of a fight on a job i have never played /sarcasm

[wicked delta]

But yeah

You wont magically perform better if you’re struggling with the mechanics

Because while phys ranged has free movement

[daring pine]

hello

[wicked delta]

It doesn’t mean much if you’re getting hit by the same shit

If that makes sense?

[shy obsidian]

But uh

How do I even greed during Vamp Stomp? Every time i dash in after the first explosion, I always get caught in someone else’s

Is that normal?

[wicked delta]

Whose explosion

[molten moon]

You can't dash in

[wicked delta]

Are you getting hit by

The tank?

[molten moon]

It's fuck

[shy obsidian]

Usually the main tank’s or the other melee DPS

[vast jacinth]

Isnt there like a prio for pf

For mellee /tanks

Or is is use eyes

Is it

[remote gate]

melee > tank > range > healers iirc

[wicked delta]

Well yea but most ppl dgaf

Ngl

[low hearth]

Like everyone at once but be careful

[wicked delta]

They just go in whenever

[molten moon]

No but I'm very sure it's a bit fucked with dashes there

[wicked delta]

Id say play it safe is my suggestion

[molten moon]

Feels like your explosion snapshots closer to the mid if you dash in

[finite plank]

i've explained vamp stomp before

[sleek moon]

our melee got killed for all 3 vamp stomps 😄

[vast jacinth]

I dont dash in but im also just a healer who has a looot of time

[wicked delta]

If I see people dashing in that fast im like lol

[boreal pumice]

was it a sam

[sleek moon]

drg

[zealous meteor]

we're putting you on a diet of pure Enpi sorry

[sleek moon]

not all of them his fault mind you, its also tanks

[finite plank]

vamp stomp's explosion works on server ticks

[remote gate]

Ik i didnt kill you kikio because id use dark mission after I enter and get her into the middle.

[wicked delta]

I got murdered by people often during prog

[remote gate]

your deaths occurred usually after second explosion

[finite plank]

if you dash in you run the risk of it actually exploding the moment you touched the circle or exploding the moment you arrived at your destination

if you want to be the very first to do that shit

[molten moon]

Don't dash in if you can lol

[finite plank]

stand in the middle first

[molten moon]

Just play safe

[finite plank]

and assert dominance

then you won't turn into a missile

(i did this as nin)

[wicked delta]

Graine’s advice is what I would follow

Its what I did

Cus lol

[finite plank]

normally

[molten moon]

I've seen it happen to my melee lol

[finite plank]

all 4 can enter at the same time, but only if you actually walk in a reasonable way

[vast jacinth]

Ive seen a tank be so spooked out that he ran all the way to the outer edge xD

[finite plank]

once the bat explodes, you can enter the circle together as long as you're coordinated to be in a X or + formation

[vast jacinth]

And we wiped later anf apparently north south bat pattern is the worst?

[wicked delta]

I got murdered by an astro for like 6 pulls straight bc he parked his ass right next to me

The tank

And I was so fucking mad