you'll get to do it for bst raids
#endgame-lounge
sleek moon
jolly flume
I'm actually considering doing blu raiding
seeing as I've basically done everything mainstream raiding has to offer
it looks kinda funky
sleek moon
its fun in a different way
midnight furnace
Got more M10S prog
Well the wall for me currently is Snaking
Holy thats a tough mech to keep up with stuff
midnight furnace
Specially since the cutback blaze at the end catches you unguarded
trim frost
even though you need to know how to do both responsibilities it's nice that you can just focus on your group's only
amber fable
For snaking ..you do get time to bait cone
midnight furnace
Might be turning into my favorite Arcadion Second Floor
worn bluff
it’s a fun fight
midnight furnace
Also holy hell DEEP IMPACT is so friggin funny
By far the funniest Tankbuster i ever faced
Who woulda thunk you can kill the whole party in one punch lol
amber fable
Thats like very standard tb
trim frost
there will never be a tb as peak as mountain fire
midnight furnace
Yeah but in this one its not like a pillar of light or anything just friggin Rams you through the torso in a punch XD
amber fable
Hh was a tb
midnight furnace
there will never be a tb as peak as mountain fire
That was pretty awesome too
torn kindle
Blu raids actually require more brain power
I’d love BLU more if they didn’t do a NIN with their burst
AKA press 20 fucking buttons in a very tight 15s window
amber fable
Also their voke sucks
torn kindle
Also don’t like moon flute in general
midnight furnace
Im looking forward to progging more M10S tomorrow
amber fable
I hate aggro management of blu
midnight furnace
Specially since on a weekend i ought to get more parties
torn kindle
No tank/healer oGCDs also fucking suck
midnight furnace
I love this game man
trim frost
i also want to complain about how unremarkable the last update to blue mage was
trim frost
"new carnivale stages" (one stage)
torn kindle
i also want to complain about how unremarkable the last update to blue mage was
It really just made us swap Shiva’s move with a different button and we got a different GCD to spam in burst
lapis token
220 potency with 50% falloff
sleek moon
i think 10 is a way more fun fight than 11
torn kindle
TFW Lakshmi’s damage/heal move is the best aoe damage after like 5 targets because no falloff
amber fable
Ah yeah 10 flavours of same button
torn kindle
But BLU doesn’t care about aoe in dungeons because vibe check
amber fable
i think 10 is a way more fun fight than 11
10 isnt tight either
So you can fuck up and clear
sleek moon
11 is shaping up to be the least fun out of the entire arcadion, like enrage aside
the weapons are annoying and not fun
midnight furnace
11 is shaping up to be the least fun out of the entire arcadion, like enrage asi...
It definitely looks to be the most plain
Its Honest at least
trim frost
i don't think m11s is particularly complex on a broad scale but pf is notoriously bad at it
midnight furnace
In a way it reminds me of P7S
trim frost
so it'll probably remain infamous for that reason alone
midnight furnace
From how simple and then BACKLOADED as hell the fight gets
sleek moon
it definitely is very easy to understand, just annoying to execute imo
torn kindle
Most useless skill ever
trim frost
it's bad enough that the tomestone dev was considering scrapping the prog point feature altogether
torn kindle
“Here’s great mitigation, but your group now relies on a coin flip to not wipe”
Also it’s ANOTHER FUCKING GCD
trim frost
i think some actions have kinda neat ideas but then their potencies/activation methods/cds/etc. just make them utterly useless
amber fable
Blue is all gcd
trim frost
like i think dimensional shift could've been kinda cool for overworld fate farming but that 5s cast time is ridiculous
torn kindle
Might as well just use Launcher instead
amber fable
Blue is that class which feels it will be fun
But then its kinda trash
To actually play
I am not a fan of blu
trim frost
peat pelt + deep clean having intended interaction is cool but then you realize peat pelt does fucking no damage
torn kindle
Oh I love the combo skills that are shit when separate, and only mediocre when together
Peat Clean combo is basically only for soloing fates you can’t vibe check
amber fable
Winged reprobation
trim frost
Peat Clean combo is basically only for soloing fates you can’t vibe check
so like fixed hp immune boss fates or
sleek moon
i didnt get any of the level 80 actions lol
since i had no blu static
gonna go back to get everything i missed when the blu update hits
torn kindle
The only two you actually care for raiding about are Being Mortal from Titania and whatever’s from Innocence
The rest are filler spells
Sea Shanty I think gets used in burst sometimes
And Candy Cane is a physical version of Magic Hammer for debuffing
trim frost
mortal flame and breath of magic are neat but you can only apply one of each to any enemy so
torn kindle
So only one person in the party uses them
Definitely great for doing weekly carnivale though
trim frost
i think apokalypsis is a good moon flute finisher(?) but if you actually need to move for stuff then phantom flurry is probably safer
amber fable
Flurry is same
torn kindle
i think apokalypsis is a good moon flute finisher(?) but if you actually need to...
It’s a mixup between that and Mortal
Fight-dependent and also if it can hit multiple IIRC
torn kindle
Pretty sure not since it’s an ability
trim frost
phantom flurry is ogcd
also phantom flurry sans finisher is 1200p while apok is 1540
but apok forces you to stand still for longer
amber fable
Oh okay
trim frost
whenever blue mage gets a dt update i hope they a) do more with the lore and b) make arcadion spells interesting
but idk i was kinda let down by how little eden was utilized
was it literally just a spell from 1 and a spell from 12
trim frost
the primary upside of apokalypsis is the furry pose you do
on all levels except physical i am a quadruped cosmic horror
pale blade
maybe I should work on my spells
sleek moon
Doing it after the update is easier, pf is gonna be full of spell parties
low hearth
LONG LIVE THE KING 🗣️
rain geode
Thank the gods sadly most left before the picture 🙁
low hearth
now m11s hell
lavish mortar
It's FINALLY FUCKING OVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
low hearth
👉 
rain geode
Also I guess to make for the fact I got 0 loot M9S I kinda stole all the loot this time
stray forge
lichrully praying that I don't get stuck there on sunday
rain geode
Probably gonna start on M11S tommorow under no delusion Im getting a clear this week lol
lavish mortar
Least cursed meteorain
quick verge
every time you fuck up orbital omen
just say it was lag
2-1 till i die no capperoni
limpid edge
https://klipy.com/gifs/lebron-lebron-james-94
leebron james
jolly flume
just say it was lag
i know what you are
quick verge
i dont blame lag unless i actually got a 70000ms spike btw
jolly flume
you just have to yank your ethernet cable out of the wall to really sell the "I lagged" thing
stray forge
that used to be a real strat in a game I played way back in like 2005
lavish mortar
2-1 till i die no capperoni
I'm doing this even as phys ranged lmao its just so easy
jolly flume
it was a strat in destiny 1
stray forge
it was a korean shooter game
lavish mortar
so destiny? /j
jolly flume
stray forge
and you could jiggle your ethernet cord
to lag and dodge ppls shots
but for some reason ur shots would still hit
crazy
jolly flume
netlimiter 4 pro
the entire d2 community had one license key for that shit that they shared
stray forge
that game almost gave me arthritus at an early age
not actually but damn did it hurt your wrist after a while
jolly flume
ff14 is actively ruining my wrists
quick verge
you just have to yank your ethernet cable out of the wall to really sell the "I ...
i just do that when i dont feel like playing the game
jolly flume
it was never an issue even when I played osu
jolly flume
but I get pretty frequent wrist pain nowadays
quick verge
you need to do hand stretches before you game
also take a break
also you aren't 15 anymore
stray forge
someone fucking made a 3 hr video on this shit 💀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi5rxkwvwYc
jolly flume
🥀
stray forge
wth
rain geode
I wonder if that'll stay a purple when it locks in
quick verge
yes
stray forge
if my static doesnt get to at least enrage for m10s
stray forge
i am going to be cooked trying to pf on sunday
jolly flume
only tuesday gets serious motion on ur color rankings
ill show you serious motion
stray forge
Maybe I should have taken that persons advice the other day
rain geode
You ever see anything this gnarly?
stray forge
And just gotten pf practice
trim frost
You ever see anything this gnarly?
boba tea
rain geode
Save some fun for me
quick verge
free 15 year mute to the next person that drops a line from m10
jolly flume
I ride the inferno.
rain geode
Im really glad I avoided crashing out on my 0.01% enrage
trim frost
guy named inferno
stray forge
What if you already have a 401k
jolly flume
see you when you can cash out your IRA
limpid edge
my reign is absoltue, i will NOT lose
quick verge
im just saying
if you're an mmo player and dont want children
you are playing suboptimally
stray forge
Sorry I like being to travel whenever I feel like it which absolutely cannot be done with children in the cradle
quick verge
every child you birth is a child you can raise to become the ultimate raider
thats at least 2/8 humans in a raid group
and they can grind shit for you before they develop sentience
thats optimal
stray forge
You think MMOs will exist when today’s children are old enough to use a keyboard……..
quick verge
mb
stray forge
They will be maybe playing World of Genshin: A Realm Reborn….gacha mmo
quick verge
they'll be playing the riot mmo
quick verge
pale blade
I ride the inferno.
That all you got, huh? Nice knowing you, unenhanced warrior!
stray forge
Who here is having kids and are u going to tell ur kids PF war stories while they’re growing up
quick verge
6 hours daily of trauma dumping pf horror stories on your children
limpid edge
my kids will be pf warriors
stray forge
“And then….it was snaking prog”
rain geode
LMAO
stray forge
I was stunned for like 5 seconds just staring at that
Being pregnant sounds spooky no ty
||I’m already depressed enough I don’t need post partum depression 🥀 ||
jolly flume
Who here is having kids and are u going to tell ur kids PF war stories while the...
back in the stone age when we didn't have tomestone
pale blade
Being an MMO player and not having kids is the life
quick verge
does tomestone even matter atp
rain geode
One of the two decent M10S PF groups I got ended when someone was like "wife got home gtg" and I wonder to this day if it was joke
warped gate
"and then a group of people in the pf started making the other people uncomfortable"
quick verge
you check everyone's passport and you still wipe 3 mechanics earlier
whats the point
stray forge
Years of exposure to vent discord raiding and hearing the random dad in your 25 man raid crashing out bc his kid suddenly went on a rampage in the computer room has conditioned me
jolly flume
lol my fc clear request ticket queue is just like 5 straight m11s enrage to clears
rain geode
does tomestone even matter atp
no
warped gate
Years of exposure to ~~vent~~ discord raiding and hearing the random dad in your...
LOL
stray forge
One of the two decent M10S PF groups I got ended when someone was like "wife got...
My ex was like this
quick verge
baby in oven again brb
stray forge
She didn’t have any hobbies so I wasn’t allowed to have any either
rain geode
Like in the party before the one I cleared with there was a WHM who technically got farther in the fight then me and they completely sucked
stray forge
🙃
warped gate
the last static i had, had like 3 40 year old women talking about booktoks mid raid
jolly flume
baby in oven again brb
just leave it in this time
rain geode
Passport checks dont matter since you can get an easy pattern or zombie walk through 1 or 2 mechanics
jolly flume
give up
pale blade
“Not now, sweetie, Mommy’s trying to win this internet argument”
jolly flume
Passport checks dont matter since you can get an easy pattern or zombie walk thr...
that doesn't make it not matter
stray forge
Not now sweetie mommy’s shitposting in main
jolly flume
false positives doesn't stop it from filtering out the people who join ahead
looking at you, darklit to clear gamers
rain geode
Not now sweetie mommy’s shitposting in main
me AF
quick verge
darklit to clear wilted rose emoji
limpid edge
danklit clear
quick verge
the community service clears for next ultimate are gonna be crazy
rain geode
Gonna make a macro for M9S when I take my cage thjat goes "despite all my rage Im still just a cat in a cage"
jolly flume
the community service clears for next ultimate are gonna be crazy
you ever c41 someone then instantly blacklist them
I feel like I owe pf some apologies
rain geode
"never again"
stray forge
I’ve only blacklisted one person
dense oxide
I c41 Chiyo Shiomi in UWU then blacklisted them in 2022 or some shiii
quick verge
everyone has to do community service at some point in their life
stray forge
I’m very tolerant maybe too tolerant
rain geode
I came real close to Blacklisting the WHM from my party before the last
dense oxide
Then quit the game
warped gate
I’ve only blacklisted one person
i just blacklisted a lala today
dense oxide
that fight kinda ass
stray forge
I think there was a WoW mod that converted your messages to that automatically
jolly flume
lol
jolly flume
violet
rain geode
Ok I dont hate M10S anymore its a pretty good fight
warped gate
I think there was a WoW mod that converted your messages to that automatically
dude the rez message was even worse
dense oxide
I specifically asked if I could play that shit before hand
I was gonna do Harpe mage but held back
jolly flume
harpe mage is probably more interesting than playing 70 reaper normally
stray forge
How do I stop my friend from constantly sending me random modbeasts
stray forge
He says he hates them but keeps following them on twitter I think he has a thing
rain geode
Man 3 pieces of gear is a suprising amount of health
stray forge
What the hell is that
stray forge
low hearth
damn mfs cant do arena split for shit
holy moly
like they even made it brain dead bro
stray forge
Can I submit an enrage request for m10s if my static doesn’t make it to enrage by Sunday
torn kindle
I’m not gonna bother learning the cheese because it feels like something SE will patch
stray forge
I still wanna do it myself I just don’t think I’ll get into parties bc of tomestone
jolly flume
idk join my old fc and you probably can
stray forge
I can't ur on aether
jolly flume
gg
I can prob help on sunday or something but yeah
idk how much I'm gonna want to play the game depending on how the rest of reclears go tomorrow
quick verge
.5% wipe
jolly flume
i just dont feel like it idk
I think ur just traumatized
tbh I kinda wish reclears didnt exist
I just wanna week 1 prog
then have 0 obligations until next patch
limpid edge
rip game
trim frost
I think ur just traumatized
yeah
but i really shouldnt because i got through it comparatively fast
limpid edge
how are you trauamatized, you got thru the wall
very quickly
people beyond week 1 should be traumatized
stray forge
tew liter deffo never gonna be the same again
limpid edge
forever!!!!
rain geode
tew liter deffo never gonna be the same again
stray forge
<a:huhcat:1026989550628778005>
you feel fine now but once you go into m11s....
I just know 
worn bluff
m11s feels more like i'm working a job than playing a game
clear plume
idk how much I'm gonna want to play the game depending on how the rest of reclea...
That bad?
jolly flume
no not like crashout shit lol just if it takes a while I prob wanna just chill instead of grinding more
week 2 reclear pains are gonna be real
clear plume
Not week 2
dense oxide
Bro has never played XIV
rain geode
Simply vanish from the internet when it's time to do reclears
jolly flume
coming off of week 1 where you're info overloaded on 4 fights that you're generally not entirely comfortable with by the time you clear
not really
clear plume
We cleared 11 one time and it was with 3 deaths, why would next time we instance in be clean
You plan for around 90m per fight as a good pace
low hearth
arena split clean up party cant even do the fucking first arena split
stray forge
Idk this is my first time savage raiding and my only reclear was vamp 😭
clear plume
If you 2 shot a fight nice
low hearth
clear plume
But if you do it’s normally final fight
stray forge
and it was a one shot
worn bluff
vamp is an easy fight though
clear plume
But yeah that’s fair chiyo it sounded like one of those “10 has hands, 4 of them” messages
tawdry delta
another clear ticket has hit the queue
i wasn't aware there was an ulti project equivalent for savage
stray forge
so are bj bros
jolly flume
that's something my fc does internally
worn bluff
ok but vamp is much easier
stray forge
i cant speak for tyrant but yeah
jolly flume
bc it's like 500 members and we have a handful of hc raiders
stray forge
thats at least 2 ezpz reclears
clear plume
Can I use it for a passport past arena split
Just say you’re my alt idc
Link my tomestone
tawdry delta
granted we lost like 5 pulls to a different person DCing each time
worn bluff
i mean also you're new to savage so you can prob find out pretty soon
undone tide
“Hmm I think the strategy that will make us do more damage is not a good idea because we died!”
tawdry delta
we still did better than mr happy group who couldn't even get past m12p1 in 2 reclear nights
limpid edge
DN barely got past m11s on their first reclear night. Even world prog teams got issues
worn bluff
one shot reclears do happen but they're not the norm in PF
stray forge
maybe they all turned off cactbot
clear plume
“Hmm I think the strategy that will make us do more damage is not a good idea be...
Why is rdm acting like first gcd buffs are hard for it
It’s literally the same as ur normal opener but earlier
worn bluff
me when i have to press any of my buttons in a slightly different order
stray forge
wait im dying
jolly flume
drift tech by 30s
and dont die
boss still dies
:)
@clear plume wanna see a funny pf
clear plume
jolly flume
clear plume
low hearth
jolly flume
worn bluff
ez game
clear plume
Ok but tbf Ucob is harder than seeing ecliptic
undone tide
it’s definitely not
normal blade
hot rose
Might consider switching from GNB to PLD 🥴
But playing PLD gives like no aura i fear lol
Hopefully the BiS is the same
stray forge
i'd switch classes but i am not a coward
and definitely not because im already 777 and ppl would be annoyed
dull drum
imo
daring pine
It is really funny I went from 773 to 777 in one night
got accessories?
poggers
im hoping to clear tonight
rain geode
got accessories?
In 2 clears of M9S I have gotten exactly 0 accessories the the funniest part
rain geode
Yeah of the barrier variety
daring pine
the shield kitty
stray forge
i guess ill gear up blm....
daring pine
hi chiyo
jolly flume
9 books are pretty useless after a (short) while ngl
10 11 12 you need for augments and weapons constantly
hi
daring pine
yeah unless you wanna gear like 5 billion jobs
for some reason
mm accessories
yum yum yum
stray forge
actually idk if I wanna gear blm, vpr, or nin
daring pine
im only gonna gear brd and rdm
stray forge
as an alt raid class
daring pine
prob gonna use rdm for the ult when it comes
rain geode
I've won 0 accessories and finally cleared m10s and won 3 pieces of loot. I actually feel a bit mean having stolen over half the loot
rain geode
Head arms and the accessory upgrade
rain geode
(i'm joking i love kitty)
Meow
rain geode
please tell me healer uses head and gloves
Head gloves and boots actually
daring pine
oh wow that's
actually perfect then
gearing my brd is so fucked wdym i have to grind tomes for an extra week because skill speed
💔
i had to get tome necklace bro
rain geode
The only tome piece on left for healer (or at least scholar) is Body
rain geode
Scholar is like 4 tome pieces and two of them is rings
rain geode
Although I don't mind a little bit of piety even if it's slightly unoptimal so I'm probably not even gonna use double ring
daring pine
technically 7 if you need to fuck with ur sks like i did
rain geode
Piety is nice when you have to rez people
low hearth
made it to ecliptic stampede after an entire lockout
daring pine
could've just used normal raid necklace
true but im not very smart ok
low hearth
rain geode
I'm probably gonna do some m11s prog but I'm certainly not clearing it this week
daring pine
its ok 1 week is wtv
low hearth
I'm probably gonna do some m11s prog but I'm certainly not clearing it this week
i got you with the uptime orbital omen tech look
daring pine
i think you can tell which pieces are being replaced
worn bluff
it was fun learning that the 780 tome piece i bought was a slight loss vs pentamelded 770
low hearth
daring pine
by tomes
low hearth
pop sprint 💯
low hearth
sprint always got my back
stray forge
vro u live in nyc just go get a burger
rain geode
I want a burger rn
I just got home from mcdondalds
clear plume
i got mcdonalds after my magic the gathering evcent
daring pine
it was fun learning that the 780 tome piece i bought was a slight loss vs pentam...
niko ur cute
u know that
worn bluff
clear plume
i won 1st place 
daring pine
cuter than chiyo
jolly flume
the nearest mcdonalds is like a mile away do I care enough to go walk to mcdonalds at 2am
rain geode
i got mcdonalds after my magic the gathering evcent
Bro went to lorewyn prerelease
daring pine
dont tell us where u live im gonna use my lb
stray forge
okay
rain geode
What's the macro command to say something in chat?
daring pine
What's the macro command to say something in chat?
it's just /p insert text
if party chat
jolly flume
I could fuck up a takeout box of cha siu rn
man I grew up thinking it kinda sucked
then I found out when I was older that it just sucked because my mom always asked for the lean cuts
rain geode
it's just /p *insert text*
Sweet I'm gonna make a meme macro for my m9s reclears it's gonna be really funny
low hearth
im clear ready bro
low hearth
just gotta start potting to spoof up the passport a lil
jolly flume
do I pause my steam download for that image to load
daring pine
yes
jolly flume
stray forge
why does he look like he skipped leg day
rain geode
Whenever I take my cage in hell in a cell I'm gonna go "despite all my rage I'm still just a cat in a cage"
jolly flume
ok fine
clear plume
i want kbbq
stray forge
I used to like kbbq but i get really annoyed at smelling like it for the rest of the day
so no more
rain geode
Man the panda armor is like, the most mmo-y armor in this game
daring pine
ngl the abyssos gear is pretty hot and sexy
jolly flume
I used to like kbbq but i get really annoyed at smelling like it for the rest of...
yeah this is real
daring pine
Man the panda armor is like, the most mmo-y armor in this game
yeah and its fire
jolly flume
also you can't wear that hoodie you wore until you do laundry
daring pine
(it is literally fire)
jolly flume
clear plume
i get around that by getting kbbq before i sleep and not for lunch
jolly flume
I have a hoodie that I wear specifically for kbbq because I don't like it that much
rain geode
I've wanted to make something with the panda sets but I don't want to farm panda lel
trim frost
some of the chests are very bright i dont know if i fw
fending/maiming are nice but they're almost the same as last tier
rain geode
Green is sorta my main color now
daring pine
burps
rain geode
I get to finally take off my green swimsuit tho, at least until I do M10S reclears
low hearth
ok the striking set is pretty hot
really
daring pine
really
yeah
fending and maiming just look like the same from last tier
uuh scouting is buns
rain geode
ok the striking set is pretty hot
Picture?
daring pine
just straight buns
rain geode
Oh from uh current raids I thought we were still talking about panda
daring pine
lol
rain geode
I might actually make another scholar fit
I only have 2 the one I've used for ever and a swimsuit remix
Then again plates are annoyingly limit and I need to make a bard glam soonish
shy obsidian
i should get a matching bow
Ra'Kaznar Bow?
shy obsidian
for what
shy obsidian
wait TONIGHT?
shy obsidian
girl are you an east coaster
shy obsidian
anyways
daring pine
its 7am for me
shy obsidian
unfortunately I already cleared that raid so I'm waiting for yall to hop onto the next one lol
daring pine
get a load of this guy
shy obsidian
...we're talking about Vamp, right?
daring pine
what else would i be talking about man
shy obsidian
yeah I cleared so I could get some practice in for the Xtremes
only meeting on Saturdays n Sundays kinda hurts honestly
loud swift
my static only meets tuesday wednesday 😭
daring pine
can we swap schedules
loud swift
yea actually
daring pine
yea actually
loud swift
reminded me to fanta back to a cat tomorrow morning
shy obsidian
i dunno honestly
i love being a giraffe but I'm still awaiting the day I return to hrothgar lol
shy obsidian
<@482224818129731586> is para away this saturday
errrrr uhhhh i dunno i guess
daring pine
reminded me to fanta back to a cat tomorrow morning
the meower
rain geode
Meow
I'd offer to join but I already did my M9S reclear
And also job
And also SCH is the only geared job I have
loud swift
im hoping to swap to dragoon this tier cuz uh uh reaper suggs i learnt and dragoon is cool
luckily my gear is like identical
rain geode
I'm sad reaper is like the 2nd or 3rd worse job in the game it's so cool
jolly flume
unless you're hc progging there's not really a reason to care
loud swift
picked up reaper cuz a scythe is objectively cool. come to learn it just fails to impress in terms of the other dps
hey atleast jumping around with a spear is pretty cool i think
plus dragons n shii
the rotation for dragoon feels really nice to use
swapping between 5 button rotations and weaving all the ogcds yum yum
rain geode
Honestly tho my biggest complaint with Reaper is that gallows, gibbet and guillotine should just transform from your 123 combo instead of being their own buttons
Same with arcane circle and plentiful harvest
daring pine
we hate soulsow
loud swift
that would be a huge qol feature for it, considering if you can proc gallows etc., if you hit any other ability it just gets rid of your stack to do those buttons
jolly flume
damn the alexandria zone is surprisingly detailed even outside the areas that you can normally go
loud swift
why is soulsow even a button
jolly flume
that would be a huge qol feature for it, considering if you can proc gallows etc...
that's just the same concept as like
breaking a combo
dapper zealot
damn the alexandria zone is surprisingly detailed even outside the areas that yo...
HAVE YOU HEARD, PRINCESS SPEEN IS HERE
jolly flume
they've decided keeping your combo active is something that should stay in the game, I don't really see why more failure conditions need to go ngl
especially for a job that's already kinda light on buttons
loud swift
idk my complaint with reaper is that im lazy and i dont like applying death design twice every minute just to get 10% damage when dragoon gets it in their combo
rain geode
Because it's annoying and you already can't even press 123 during enshroud anyway
Not to mention you still keep the failure stat since you need to alternate anyway
loud swift
it would be cool if death design was a dot but its not so womp womp
rain geode
Death design is fine
jolly flume
it's functionally the same thing
they should really just make it one button that cleaves though
rain geode
I wouldn't mind that
stray forge
rain geode
I dunno I wanna play reaper more but it's pretty annoying to set it's buttons up with how I normally have my buttons
clear plume
I don’t think their goal is to have jobs that split gear actually play similar, if you like how drg does something more, play drg and all that
loud swift
i do now play drg
dapper zealot
I dunno I wanna play reaper more but it's pretty annoying to set it's buttons up...
Same here with sam as well. My layout works fine for most jobs with maybe some changes but rpr and sam make it annoying to fit in
stray forge
so far I feel like summoner is the one thats annoying to set up buttons
rain geode
Yeah tho Sam I don't really have a solution for whereas RPR I think would benefit a lot from the option for gallows, gibbet and guillotine to just be modifiers to your 123 combo
rain geode
Really SMN was real easy for me helps that it has like no buttons
daring pine
purple
stray forge
I just assumed I would get more summons with as many buttons as carbuncle
and was like
daring pine
ourple
stray forge
how tf do I plan for this
dapper zealot
I hate my pct layout cause there's so many gaps inbetween stuff and it's annoying to look at
loud swift
pct is so baron...
rain geode
I just assumed I would get more summons with as many buttons as carbuncle
Carby on has like one button for each one
jolly flume
I can put cds wherever I wanna track them independent of what they're bound to
dapper zealot
cds nuts
rain geode
SMN I think has the fewest buttons in the game you can almost play it with 2 hotbars
loud swift
pct is surprisingly complicated for me with how little buttons there are. keeping track of all your cds making sure you dont cap
jolly flume
wow, that's 1 more than the number of fingers you need
dapper zealot
I really should start moving alt q and e to my regular hotbar instead of mount/sprint cause that's prime real estate
rain geode
I typically keep my mount on B and sprint on M4
dapper zealot
Got some buffs on my mouse buttons
lavish mortar
EVERYTHING BUUUUURNS
holy shit, the raidwides in m12s1 do not fuck around
What's the DPS requirement for m12s1 and m12s2
rain geode
Got some buffs on my mouse buttons
I only have two mouse buttons in use so 6 buttons tied to it total 3 of them are always Sprint, Pot and LB
lavish mortar
ok lets see, boss has 104600000 HP
languid sphinx
Not sure if this is an appropriate venue to ask, but it’s still about endgame.
I’m currently in early EW. But I’m aiming to be in current patch by May/June. If I want to prepare myself to potentially do EX and Savage in 8.0, do I want to start with DT high end or would EW synced be ok for getting accustomed to modern high end content?
lavish mortar
Not sure if this is an appropriate venue to ask, but it’s still about endgame.
...
just go straight into endgame DT, start with doomtrain to get your weapon, then you can try M9S and maybe M10S
languid sphinx
My only EX experience is Ultima Weapon and Shiva.
lavish mortar
What class are you playing
If it's something that doesn't change much between 90 and 100, then I would highly recommend starting to learn your rotation now
That way you don't need to practice it before going into extremes/savage
rain geode
Not sure if this is an appropriate venue to ask, but it’s still about endgame.
...
I would just go into DT ex since you'll have your whole kit
lavish mortar
ok, so enrage is 7:07
dapper zealot
I only have two mouse buttons in use so 6 buttons tied to it total 3 of them are...
Same, I got the two side and middle
languid sphinx
Mains are MNK/MCH/RDM/GNB/SGE but I haven’t settled on one, nor do I have extensive experience with any of them outside of leveling dungeons and trials.
rain geode
That's a lot of mains
lavish mortar
you will definitely want to settle on one sooner rather than later
those are all different gearsets with no gear in common
languid sphinx
I’m leaning toward SGE or RDM.
rain geode
I think later is fine you'll want to probably settle before going into savage but not knowing by the time you ex is fine
rain geode
I would argue you don't really have a good idea of how a job plays until you play It in at least ex
lavish mortar
yeah until you start properly playing the job
True for casters for sure
healers are eh, you mostly just get more healing shit
languid sphinx
All those jobs are also hella underleveled too. My highest is 86 DRG right now but I don’t like the job as much as I thought.
rain geode
I think it's true for all the jobs but especially supports
languid sphinx
lavish mortar
Why does it say you have a level 68 archer and a level 62 thaumaturge 😂
rain geode
That is a lot of partially leveled jobs
amber fable
Complete msq first
languid sphinx
Uh huh. I’m at almost 1000 hours.
lavish mortar
yeah, so you're like, 58 RDM
pale blade
I mean completing MSQ then leveling jobs should be the play
But uh if you wanna level other jobs to where DRG is then by all means
lavish mortar
That wouldn't give you a decent understanding of how RDM plays at say, 100
pale blade
Yep
Queue into Frontlines as the job of your choice, swap to Bard, make everyone hate you, level your job of choice
lavish mortar
frontline leveling mentioned
dapper zealot
That's what I do :)
lavish mortar
people actually level in frontlines? 😭
pale blade
Yes?
lavish mortar
No I mean like
amber fable
For once a day roullete
lavish mortar
spamming frontline for exp
amber fable
No
lavish mortar
(it's me)
(I'm the psychopath who leveled WHM through PvP)
tbf it was when whm was uber busted
infinite c2
giant death lazer combo
good times
rain geode
people actually level in frontlines? 😭
Its one of the best exp roulettes?
pale blade
Now level Bard because it's uber busted
lavish mortar
Now level Bard because it's uber busted
as an mch I exclusively target bards
rain geode
Uh huh. I’m at almost 1000 hours.
Same but I have leveled a lot less jobs lel
lavish mortar
because they deserve all my love and attention
languid sphinx
I know I’m jumping the gun but I’m just looking toward the future since it’s coming quickly.
stray forge
most raids are fun when you dont have to deal with average pf behavior
lavish mortar
Its one of the best exp roulettes?
was refering to spamming frontlines for the exp
rain geode
M11S looks fun I'll see how that opinion changes once I start doing it
pale blade
Raids are actually fun when a) your party is solid and b) they're willing to fix their mistakes instead of repeatedly eating shit
languid sphinx
I think my white whale right now is SoS EX. But normal was hell enough the first time. I’d feel like a fuckin legend if I cleared EX synced.
lavish mortar
wew old synced EXs
languid sphinx
I did normal blind and made good friends with the floor
lavish mortar
People don't do those very often as most ppl tend to want the mounts
rain geode
SoS?
languid sphinx
Seat of Sacrifice.
rain geode
Oh that's a real old one
dapper zealot
TO ME MY WARRIORS OF LIGHT
amber fable
Warrior of blight
pale blade
The times I did not have fun in a static environment was when my static went blind for two tiers and never bothered to ask me how I felt about it, therefore no alignment checks and my eventual departure, as well as one static I trialed for being so bad that I had to tell them they were bad and nothing would convince me to stay with them
rain geode
The 2 minute mid battle cut scene
pale blade
And yeah, they broke up
lavish mortar
AINT NO WAY THATS THE DPS CHECK OF M12S
languid sphinx
Is SoS the hardest trial in the game mechs wise?
rain geode
I can't imagine how annoying that would be to prog
amber fable
Is SoS the hardest trial in the game mechs wise?
No
rain geode
Almost certainly not
amber fable
Kinda hard to say...since I didn't do any shb ex synced
languid sphinx
What gets that dubious honor, then?
lavish mortar
that would be cape westwind
amber fable
Well all shb trials suck due to mid cutscenes
rain geode
I've heard Zelenia was a pain
amber fable
Zalenia is piss easy
amber fable
Didnt do necron so I can't comment on it
languid sphinx
Ramuh seems to be up there.
rain geode
The other issue being different jobs have harder or easier times in different fights
low hearth
# TO ME MY WARRIORS OF LIGHT
I am salvation given form! Mankind’s first hero…and his final hope!
rain geode
Example tanking necron ex is a lot easier then healing
lavish mortar
Honestly rating the extremes is difficult for any savage raider because there's a lot of them and they are fairly easy in comparison to most savage stuff
low hearth
I've heard Zelenia was a pain
lavish mortar
Also yeah it can vary from role to role
low hearth
👉 🌹
languid sphinx
“Warriors of Light… WRECK THIS PF’S EVERLOVING SHIT!”
low hearth
Zelenia harder than the past 2 ngl
amber fable
Barbaricia and golbez ex were on higher end of difficulty
rain geode
Comparing solo add phase from necron between healer and tank is funny
amber fable
Ngl
languid sphinx
I noticed something. Aside from Aetheric Booms, Ultima EX feels almost identical to Porta Decumana. Was this always the case?
lavish mortar
I noticed something. Aside from Aetheric Booms, Ultima EX feels almost identical...
yes, that is arr content design
amber fable
The shb weps are ultima copy
lavish mortar
honestly you could try unreals
amber fable
Make sense they would have its mech too
lavish mortar
old ex trials scaled up to level 100 roughly
amber fable
Porta decu is ultima normal mode
rain geode
Unreal is a good starting point for harder content Seiryu was the first high end I did and it felt like a decent introduction
Tsukoyami probably less so
languid sphinx
Like the Aetheric Booms have to be soaked by a tank in the EX I think? I made the mistake of trying to soak one as DPS and blew up.
lavish mortar
Unreal is a good starting point for harder content Seiryu was the first high end...
damn, and now you've already cleared a couple savage floors?
rain geode
damn, and now you've already cleared a couple savage floors?
The first two easy floors but yeah
stray forge
wtf is unreal
stray forge
rain geode
wtf is unreal
Old ex scaled to 100
pale blade
Anyway to be completely fair to that static, much of their high-end content exposure was Chaotic and they had no idea what they were getting into, but they were punching way above their grade by trying to scout me
low hearth
rain geode
Do them twice weekly for rewards
lavish mortar
idyllshire*
pale blade
But so many red flags that I would not consider them at all unless they genuinely improved
rain geode
Idllyshire
stray forge
Wth?????
rain geode
It gets a station next to wondrous tails
amber fable
You dont see it in pf?
languid sphinx
So I need practice. I suppose I should run stuff like Werlyt/Four Lords? Normal at first, but..
amber fable
Its at bottom
dapper zealot
Anyway to be completely fair to that static, much of their high-end content expo...
yeah, imagine having djura in your static
amber fable
Of listings
stray forge
I've literally only ever looked for train and M9S in pf so far
dapper zealot
my first highend was ex3
rain geode
So I need practice. I suppose I should run stuff like Werlyt/Four Lords? Normal ...
I mean I'd finish the story first and foremost
pale blade
yeah, imagine having djura in your static
True
dapper zealot
PF shittery aside, it went much better than I anticipated for myself
pale blade
But as I said, they were punching way above than what they were used to
lavish mortar
I tried a static for a bit and decided I'd either need to find a mid/hardcore static and actually dedicate a good chunk of time to rolling with them or just go back to no lifing PF
I chose the latter
pale blade
Among their red flags included using M6S for the trial as well as much of them having zero experience with Savage and billing themselves as a mid-hardcore/soft-hardcore static
One of the tanks had hidden logs too
It was a great first impression
jolly flume
I will either raid with an hc static or not at all because frankly I'd rather have my teeth pulled out and be forced to eat them than try to seriously prog in pf
pale blade
But curiosity demanded that I see how bad
amber fable
I wan hc static who are sweaty but then my own performance dont match it...conundrums of life
lavish mortar
I will either raid with an hc static or not at all because frankly I'd rather ha...
this is logical
amber fable
lavish mortar
I wan hc static who are sweaty but then my own performance dont match it...conun...
skill issues are the easiest fix tbf
stray forge
u guys are crazy I just joined a chill casual static and it turns out we have a lot of similar interests
languid sphinx
Yeah, of course I need to finish MSQ. Other concern I have is I work nights and I’m only really active at night or early morning Tuesday/Wednesday nights or Thursday mornings. So prog would be an issue for me.
rain geode
The whole list of high end I've done is: EX5, EX6, EX7, 7.3 unreal, 7.4 unreal, M5S, M9S, M10S
rain geode
I will either raid with an hc static or not at all because frankly I'd rather ha...
Smart
pale blade
u guys are crazy I just joined a chill casual static and it turns out we have a ...
I joined a casual static once when I would have considered myself casual, but my goals changed over time
I left that due to conflicting goals and expectations, as well as no attempts to align them
jolly flume
it's not even a clear early thing for me although I am very much interested in clearing early, it's just so much more efficient and less of a waste of time+effort
rain geode
I've also done a few older ex but those don't really count for anything
versed kayak
So I need practice. I suppose I should run stuff like Werlyt/Four Lords? Normal ...
Normals are pretty worthless for getting into high-end, but you'll need to clear them anyway to unlock the extremes
dapper zealot
I wouldn't have touched ex at all if it wasn't for the DT wings
genuine peak mounts
lavish mortar
I've done uh,
Too many exs to count
E9/10/11/12-1
P1/2/3/4-1
P5/6/7/8-1
P9/10
M1/2/3/4-1
M9/10/11
and like, P1 TEA
stray forge
why
pale blade
I have no real interest in clearing as early as possible, my only real interest is not dealing with blind prog in week 50,000 as if I'm dealing with Dora the Explorer
jolly flume
we spent less time to clear the whole tier than a lot of people did pfing m11s, that's the kind of time I have zero intention of wasting
stray forge
they fun
dapper zealot
I just don't have much interest
amber fable
I like high end because the combat is good part of the game
rain geode
Statics are hard to find especially with the amount I want to play vs the experience I have
lavish mortar
we spent less time to clear the whole tier than a lot of people did pfing m11s, ...
having a static would require me to play the game more though cuz I'd have obligations to fulfill... like getting gear! /s
amber fable
Otherwise not much to do
languid sphinx
I wish we had a savage/EX equivalent for dungeons. I know Criterion exists, but..
dapper zealot
tho I do plan to farm the other exs during 7.5
stray forge
I mean I say casual static but that doesn't mean we're braindead :') we just don't spend as much time per week progging as the so called hardcore ones
versed kayak
I wish we had a savage/EX equivalent for dungeons. I know Criterion exists, but....
why but, that's exactly it :D at least the EW ones
lavish mortar
I wish we had a savage/EX equivalent for dungeons. I know Criterion exists, but....
yeah people have been asking for mythic dungeons since 2.0 dropped probably
rain geode
I'd want to play like a bit less then hc but more then midcore
versed kayak
DT ones are unfortunately just boss fights but welp
jolly flume
we have criterion dungeons! which were really fun! until square decided they needed to turn them into yet another boss rush mode this expansion!
languid sphinx
Like Mythic Castrum Abania would be hell.
amber fable
Who needs adds bruh
versed kayak
have you done criterion adds?
jolly flume
"who needs adds" take from someone who has never done adds that require effort
stray forge
trust me
amber fable
Doesnt matter still
stray forge
you don't want mythic dungeons
versed kayak
so I guess that's a no :D
lavish mortar
stormblood story ultimate to feature 1 billion magitek soldiers
amber fable
Whether I like adds or not
lavish mortar
and be a 90% aoe fight
languid sphinx
I meant Mythic 0, not Mythic+
amber fable
Se isnt gonna add it
rain geode
I've done criterion minus's
stray forge
my current roommates mental health deteriorated progging keys
versed kayak
Add what? We're saying they shouldn't have removed adds from criterion
languid sphinx
Mythic in terms of difficulty, not keystones.
stray forge
At least she was #1 on her server 🥴
lavish mortar
thats just a rabbit hole
what isnt a rabbit hole in a game where gear becomes irrelevant every 8 months
rain geode
That's not true you can still use old gear for glams
amber fable
The point is se themselves dont like adds...why else would they remove it?
lavish mortar
ah true true
amber fable
Did playerbase as a whole dislike it?
dapper zealot
what do mythic dungeons include anyways?
stray forge
what isnt a rabbit hole in a game where gear becomes irrelevant every 8 months
I mean from what I know is that they can keep increasing in difficulty
versed kayak
The point is se themselves dont like adds...why else would they remove it?
How do you know that? Criterion adds were 10/10
lavish mortar
what do mythic dungeons include anyways?
harder dungeon bosses and trash pulls, usually a new mech on the boss, and trash will hit like a truck so u gotta know what ur pulling and doing as a tank
amber fable
My knowing is irrelevant bruh
versed kayak
Everyone I know that actually cleared criterion loved the adds
stray forge
I myself quit any real raiding in WoW after legion
amber fable
They didnt added it this expac
thin fox
seeing ppl complain about ppl in pf who are kicking 'low dps' players lol. clearly these ppl aren't aware of how many fucking players are just doing like 60% of the expected damage.
rain geode
I mean they keep putting adds in stuff so they can't hate it that much
jolly flume
yeah because SE is known for making great decisions with regards to combat design
versed kayak
M6S has adds, but sure, SE hates adds
amber fable
Like I said..why remove it then?
stray forge
U get ur adds in add phase 🙂 enjoy
versed kayak
Because they're dumb and don't understand why people enjoyed criterion? :D
rain geode
seeing ppl complain about ppl in pf who are kicking 'low dps' players lol. clear...
The number of WHM I consistently beat in nDPS
thin fox
half the morons who did criterion complained about the adds btw
jolly flume
they really didn't
versed kayak
It's not like they're known for making sensible decisions considering forked tower on release, were they learned fuck all apparently
jolly flume
literally every criterion enjoyer I know thinks the adds are the best part
because they are
lavish mortar
seeing ppl complain about ppl in pf who are kicking 'low dps' players lol. clear...
Yeah m11s is gonna be hell to clear cuz I feel like all the less serious raiders boutta show up now that theyve beaten m10s
jolly flume
even if the bosses are also great
pale blade
(It's me, I'm the moron)
amber fable
Yeah se choices arent always foresighted
languid sphinx
what do mythic dungeons include anyways?
Mythic 0 is just straight hard mode. Mythic+ is timed and operates on the keystone system. Your keystone grows with every successful clear. Enemies have special affixes/buffs that change every content season.
pale blade
but also Square Enix needs to stop listening to armchair game devs
lavish mortar
The number of WHM I consistently beat in nDPS
im assuming sch player
stray forge
Mythic 0 wasn’t even hard though tbh…
pale blade
this also includes YouTubers people source their "opinions" from
versed kayak
Criterion adds actually requiring thinking is what made them great
rain geode
im assuming sch player
Yeah for savage I decided on scholar
pale blade
Criterion adds actually requiring thinking is what made them great
Damn I think I know why they hate it
jolly flume
multipulling criterion adds was fucking peak
30 second bleed and 1hp mechanic at the same time
holy shit
languid sphinx
And you also can’t queue for Mythic, gotta PF it.
lavish mortar
Yeah for savage I decided on scholar
the superior barrier healer mainly because free sprint
rain geode
Although I do feel a bit like I betrayed WAR tho
lavish mortar
Also there was literally no actual gear that you would ever use in your bis that dropped
Just cosmetics
versed kayak
Best use for expedience is using it while everyone is running towards the edge of the arena so half the team falls off
dapper zealot
how many times have you done that?
rain geode
the superior barrier healer mainly because free sprint
I mean it's better for a lot more reasons then that lol
rain geode
how many times have you done that?
No comment
lavish mortar
I mean it's better for a lot more reasons then that lol
apologies as a dps player that is the only difference I can notice
versed kayak
how many times have you done that?
I'm usually on the receiving end from my statics scholar lmao
rain geode
Honestly the movement is a nice bonus but not really that important in my experience
jolly flume
you got the tip of the iceberg which is spreadlo then the part that's just under the water which is disjoint healing with the fairy and manual placement and then the shit that's all the way under like soil actually being 18s/600p regen and fairy ai manipulation
pale blade
Adding "PF being generally competent" to the list of things that will never happen in our lifetimes, among them world peace and world hunger being solved
lavish mortar
Honestly the movement is a nice bonus but not really that important in my experi...
ultimate trophy weapons in m11s
amber fable
I have had sch use expidience just for movement
languid sphinx
Why does your TM Opera pic remind me of a chicken nugget?
dapper zealot
Adding "PF being generally competent" to the list of things that will never happ...
alongside cooly good takes
amber fable
Its useful depending on scenario
pale blade
Why does your TM Opera pic remind me of a chicken nugget?
because it is
alpine plover
it's part of why sch is challenging
pale blade
it's TM Opera Crow
alpine plover
but expedience is pretty strong. movement speed for like 10s + 20s 10% mit
pale blade
alongside cooly good takes
do you think he's watching somewhere
rain geode
Its useful depending on scenario
It's a nice bonus for sure
jolly flume
it's a mit first sprint second but hey sometimes you don't need mit so I can just press it to go zoom
stray forge
im always watching
dapper zealot
do you think he's watching somewhere
He's here in spirit
lavish mortar
man im kinda glad I didnt heal this tier
jolly flume
sometimes the sprint is actively grief and people die because you pressed it
that's fun too
stray forge
his spirit lives on as every rprs avatar
rain geode
And hey sometimes you want MIT and speed at the same time
alpine plover
i can tell you that even without playing sch this tier that expedience would be amazing for m11s weapon phase
for example
pale blade
his spirit lives on as every rprs avatar
lavish mortar
sorta seems like hell but at the very least its quite rare to get a healer that actually just lets you die because everyone is taking so much damage that they just overheal
rain geode
I like placing it at deep aerial really handy for the people moving the tethers
lavish mortar
yeah