endgame-lounge

[worn bluff]

i've never done it but it looks fun to recover a tank getting clipped by exas in FRU. you either have like 3 seconds to wall and rez, or do some weird stuff with aggro for towers

[jolly flume]

yeah it's definitely less of a one shottable phase than the rest but it's just so exhilarating to finally clear BECAUSE you weren't allowed to make any mistakes

do it right or go back 15 minutes

good luck

[valid solar]

I havent seen arena split even a single time yet

im losing it man

[worn bluff]

got to try m11 arena split for first time and i think i did the tether right

[stray forge]

The dichotomy

[jolly flume]

I can't say there are no "undeserved" top clears because there certainly are damage wise but like

you can't eat three exaflares and get corpse dragged

[valid solar]

never ask a top farmer his opinion on sausage legends

[worn bluff]

i got really confused because a portal shot horizontally into my face and i was like "wait i have to dodge horizontal ones too?" but it was just the tether on the other side didn't cross theirs

[stray forge]

People farm TOP? Why?

[lavish mortar]

Chat NVM I'm GOATED

TOMORROW WE CLEAR

AND IF WE DONT

then uh

the day after that, i suppose

[jolly flume]

@clear plume

[lavish mortar]

just ignore this

[jolly flume]

it's just a fun fight though ngl

[stray forge]

67

In one day?…

Bro wtf

[lavish mortar]

I've done probably over 100

[stray forge]

Why are you acting like you’re going for world first

[lavish mortar]

lemme get the number for you

[stray forge]

That was last week 🥀

[jolly flume]

it's like rage queueing a competitive game

you feel

[rain geode]

I get it

Spite and anger are powerful tools

[jolly flume]

spite is the strongest motivator there is

[stray forge]

I’ve never done this

[lavish mortar]

Yeah I got like two sources of spite

[jolly flume]

wish I could say the same

[lavish mortar]

1 for this dumb dps check

[stray forge]

I simply get off the pc and read yuri and my heart fills with love again

[jolly flume]

ok that's kinda based

[rain geode]

Its the only reason Im still PFing M10S

[lavish mortar]

1 for this group that kicked me for having bad dps while 3/4 supports and another dps were grey parsing

[rain geode]

Sometimes I like to pantomime the idea of love but there is nothing but hatred in my heart

[stray forge]

I’m sorry I just love posting this picture

[lavish mortar]

Calculated it, it was actually 87 pulls today

next savage tier

im subbing in off patch

so I can get insta +10 item level

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-robin-hsr-hsr-honkai-star-rail-vrchat-gif-7350755098757630960

[jolly flume]

there's a lot of love in my heart but all of it is reserved for things that are not final fantasy xiv randoms

[clear plume]

I really like it

[rapid whale]

nice

[clear plume]

It’s neat and cool

Not the hardest but it’s difficult enough to be fun

[lavish mortar]

🥰

PF is fun

[pale blade]

I feel like I have obtained forbidden knowledge from knowing Deep Blue and Red Hot’s second nickname

Twink-182

[clear plume]

It’s better than “spread in your square AND Dont gapclose in too early!!!” From 4s

[jolly flume]

all the clone rewind mechs just feel really good to do

[lavish mortar]

anywhom, off to bed

[jolly flume]

blood mana is kind of a throwaway though

[lavish mortar]

gn all

[jolly flume]

but I'll forgive the fight for that

gn

[lavish mortar]

tomorrow I will be a proud m11s clearer

surely

[clear plume]

Blood mana is ok if the goal is to give a spot you can res people without it being like boss does an aoe!! Then a tankbuster!!! Then 5 auto attacks!!!!!

It’s active enough for a filler mech

Obviously 12-2 is all idyllic and everything before it but blood mana is teaching you it

(And first mech being a consistency check)

[jolly flume]

I feel like it could've used like one more instance of the alpha/beta debuff resolutions somewhere

[clear plume]

I’d like it if the dodges ever changed honestly

If the solve wasn’t the same it would be fine

[tawdry delta]

that's more pulls and prog time than my group had for the entire tier wtf

[jolly flume]

yeah I thought we just got funny xiv rng the first few times we got n/s safe

but nah its just always n/s

[clear plume]

I’d also like patterns where it’s out from both

And some that are EW cleaves (sometimes with out from both!!)

[clear plume]

Like that’s the real it’s a final floor what are we doing moment for me

[thin tartan]

thuis is the most entertaining

normal raid

ever

[worn bluff]

i want to understand the psychology of why people run around like wild for the 2nd set of baited circles in beginning of m11s

like first set everyone runs clockwise all neatly

[thin tartan]

forgot

[clear plume]

Bc if I know it’s spread I’m spreading early

[worn bluff]

and then 2nd set it's like they put AoEs everywhere

[jolly flume]

i'm ranged, good luck melees

[worn bluff]

well i mean the melees specifically

[clear plume]

If I know it’s stack I’m preparing to make space and just jp dodge the circles

[worn bluff]

they put the AoEs everywhere

[clear plume]

Idk you’re asking why melees don’t think about their positioning

Why does water fall from the sky sometimes we will never know

Ignoramibus

[worn bluff]

they already did it once just do it again

[stray forge]

But we do know why water falls from the sky

[worn bluff]

we will never know

[jolly flume]

shiranai

I have seen groups stack up the baited circles fwiw but

yeah seems kinda rare

if you end on scythe good luck

lol

[worn bluff]

i mean for now i'm just throwing a holy spirit so i can see prog point but

[clear plume]

Me on my way to go visit Aslan fr

[worn bluff]

feels like i'm in a roulette

also every other cotank i get goes to the wrong side in domination dance

[rain geode]

Clouds

[worn bluff]

and i just adjust for them because i don't feel like explaining the raidplan

[thin fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420652632454070304/1460701880429838519/tenor.gif

[clear plume]

It’s night time, clouds don’t exist rn yet here it is, snowing

[thin fox]

do you orient around the open side like i do

i feel like its insane not to

[rapid whale]

inx you won right

[thin fox]

no

[jolly flume]

I orient around whichever of the open and closed side I see first lol

[pale blade]

Hopefully I can clear Twink-182 tomorrow

[thin fox]

247 pulls pb 0.3%

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/imsosorry-sorry-fail-ifailedyou-crying-gif-8485211

[thin fox]

3 pulls below 1%

[pale blade]

I think I had to iron out the issues people are having

[jolly flume]

holy moly we reaching ultimate pull counts in this fight

[worn bluff]

i do use it to orient, but the raidplan uses that as relative south (which i think is silly but i still follow it)

[clear plume]

I’m gonna be doing pf runs of 10 tomorrow so I can practice bard cleave on there

[worn bluff]

i think some people get it flipped

[thin fox]

oh yeah i still follow like

the relative north prio

i just mean i look for the open side

[stray forge]

I mean red hot is really more of a bear

[thin fox]

to find my spot

[clear plume]

Chiyo when u dropping I’ll let u whm and only call you 5 slurs

[worn bluff]

yeah same

i feel like some people are using the gap as relative north and going wrong side

[thin fox]

i go left from open if ot and right if mt

[jolly flume]

only 5 what a bargain

[worn bluff]

and i'm just like.. man i don't have the energy to explain this i'll just let you go wherever you want

[thin fox]

i was in a pf with zeeks and he kept fucking up the prio

[tawdry delta]

is pf using AM for m12p2 yet

[robust shoal]

speaking of 11 spots

[thin fox]

i think people are just using macros for 12p2

[robust shoal]

shoutout to ecliptic stampede for randomly doing the reverse of snake prio for tank towers

[thin fox]

like echo macros

[jolly flume]

after doing idyllic a few more times post week 1 I don't really think it's a mech pf needs to visibly cheat at with am and whatnot

[robust shoal]

MT NE CW

[rapid whale]

i thought it was cuz it ends around north so they wanted casters to be in a tower asap

[pale blade]

if they are then I have a suggestion

[robust shoal]

[jolly flume]

it's not like...that bad

[clear plume]

Chiyo u haven’t done pf idyllic

[rapid whale]

chiyo u havent done pf p1

jk im just salty

[jolly flume]

ok you're right I haven't but also like remembering stuff is getting easier for me without macros

so maybe they won't cheat

[robust shoal]

I want to do pf stuff within the next couple weeks but

man it sounds painful

also I suck at 10 ngl

[rapid whale]

i just push my buttons and pray

its all i can do

[clear plume]

Cats idk if u heard but I’m doing 10 runs in pf to practice sometime this week

[tawdry delta]

when do you use salted earth in 10

[robust shoal]

I'll come int on my alt

just gotta get through 9 first

[robust shoal]

asap in opener

[jolly flume]

if it's like friday or something I'll come along and press some buttons

[stray forge]

idk how do ppl find the will to level an alt

[jolly flume]

I have reclears tmrw though

[stray forge]

can barely level alt classes....

[worn bluff]

can rampart cover all 3 tethers in meteorain? seems a bit tight not sure

[thin fox]

i cover first stack + tether with rampart and then 2nd/3rd with my 120s

[robust shoal]

I need to check over the LS timing though

[worn bluff]

oh i've been using 40% on great wall but only because we wanted to practice doing it normally

[thin fox]

is the late LS to try have disesteem available from the point of deep blue 2m to duo appearance?

[robust shoal]

I think fray might do some funny stuff with that timing

[tawdry delta]

do you also need to dump both shadowbringer charges asap so you can cleave them at the 4 min mark before they jump to opposite sides of the arena for snaking

[robust shoal]

You want some delay on the second use though so you can disesteem both targets

[thin fox]

oh yea everyone i see just invulns it. if you have a pld mt then just tank swap and have ot invuln.

[robust shoal]

you just need to hit the one charge early to get it rolling

after that you're pretty much just hitting it when you can cleave

I still need to study opti on 10 a bit more though

[amber fable]

When do you even cleave...before snake and bubble

[jolly flume]

I should probably start pressing gravity in 10 lol

I didn't care enough to

[tawdry delta]

i suck at 10 as well

[amber fable]

The opportunity to cleave is lower on first half

[robust shoal]

I got blues in 9/10 bc I died again

and grey in 12-2 bc I got assassinated

[tawdry delta]

also my 12 is kinda bad but its due to safety tbns that don't always break

[jolly flume]

I got a 46 in 10 because I died to debuff explosions in IA2

surely this week I'll get my free orange or whatever

[rapid whale]

thoughts on pacman?

[robust shoal]

last clone stacks 6 ppl went to the other side and I are 190k from two-man stack and died bc autos

[jolly flume]

pacman is funny but I don't care enough to do it

if my melee wants to run through for uptime i'll heal them

[robust shoal]

I need to live next week so I can historical 99 with tome weapon

[clear plume]

I think it’s probably not Friday bc I really want to play magic cards on my end

[worn bluff]

i thought i was cool with an orange in m10 but then it locked in and i guess i'm just average after all

[jolly flume]

oh yeah you play mtg

I gotta send you something my tank showed me

had me rolling

[clear plume]

Have skipped it for like a month

I had to stop in and buy graded Pokémon cards from the store just so I don’t lose favourite customer status

[stray forge]

They got u good

🥀

Subscription service tactics fr

[trim frost]

im trying to study opti for m10

[clear plume]

Listen, it has positives, like being able to know I can get an entire case of riftbound on release day no problem

The downside is without asking I’m put down to buy a case of riftbound on release day

[trim frost]

obviously hold burst until after add dies but outside of that i'm thonky

[amber fable]

Use ogcds asap

[jolly flume]

hit yo cleaves

[amber fable]

So it can line up

[worn bluff]

i haven't really sorted out much other than sending some oGCDs earlier in opener helps

[amber fable]

At ia1 start

[low hearth]

just cleave bro

[clear plume]

The first gcd EA bard opener

[worn bluff]

keep the bros together

don't let them be apart

[jolly flume]

I think the latest you can send some stuff and still be able to cleave it in some windows is like 3rd gcd ish because my chainsaw is the last thing to go out before the bosses jump for snaking

[trim frost]

should i hold both shbs/dis at 2m for when both targetable at 2:30

[low hearth]

u can use salted first gcd

[amber fable]

Pf dont hold there

[trim frost]

im not holding burst

im just holding my cleave stuff

[clear plume]

I’m p sure eventually people will do 2:30 reopener and it’ll line up naturally with end of bubble anyways

[low hearth]

u can use the salted aoe thing on both bosses right before insane air

[trim frost]

bc cleave dmg > burst dmg

[robust shoal]

buffs don't rly matter, cleave > buffs

[trim frost]

ye i think i have salt usage figured out there

unless my cotank is annoying and pulls red hot southeast asap for some fucking reason like that one time

[clear plume]

What percent is the cleave? If it’s above 30% it’s gonna be hard for buffs to overcome that as a tank

If it’s 50% falloff cleave is just always better

[amber fable]

Salt is 25

Shb is...idk man

[stray forge]

How does rdps account for crit from dancer buff etc

[jolly flume]

even if the buffs are better you're not parsing adps

[amber fable]

I forgot

[clear plume]

But with whm sge being just more damage I think it’s just hold for cleave anyways

[clear plume]

You aren’t?

[trim frost]

salt/shb/dis are all 25% falloff i think

[clear plume]

Why tf else do I have a drg over a monk

[jolly flume]

takes a portion of the damage out from any crits under the effect of the skill proportional to the crit increase

[stray forge]

Oh ok

[clear plume]

There is a doc if u want the math

But it’s beyond most people

[trim frost]

so total pot is like
875 s&d
1050 shb
1750 dis?

[clear plume]

If it’s 25% falloff then yeah, cleave is just more important

[robust shoal]

yeh it's 25% falloff on all of them

low falloff bc there's no rly any other cleave you get on drk

kinda wish shb was higher potency just to make that sort of opti more important

[clear plume]

Back in my day unleash was the strongest aoe at low levels

[robust shoal]

back in my day unleash was a gain on like 7 targets or sth

[jolly flume]

hold my wing muse

[torn mesa]

do I Ogi out of buffs in M10S at the 2M

[jolly flume]

no (this message sponsored by big astrologian)

[clear plume]

Realistically

Try just using buffs at 2:30

It lines up to middle/end of snaking and end of bubble when bosses are back basically

[jolly flume]

that pushes back the buffs at the start of snaking to

[torn mesa]

then you lose 4M cleave

[jolly flume]

yeah

[torn mesa]

SAM has a 30s carryover

[clear plume]

Both bosses are middle for most of that part of snaking but yeah

[torn mesa]

so they can get away with it

[clear plume]

I haven’t fully checked when blue disappears

And how it effects things

[jolly flume]

I mean it would be during the end of the wave and fire spreads I think

if you delay 30s

[clear plume]

But at worst hitting just red post towers is the same as 2:00 window

[jolly flume]

that seems alright you have a few gcds of them being together

[torn mesa]

well you have to resolve fire spreads and water proteans

and then takes a bit for bosses to be stacked again

[clear plume]

I’ll check timeline in a few minutes here

[torn mesa]

before deep varial splits again

[clear plume]

With replay

[torn mesa]

Chiyo

I think with any other comp

that's not the 1 we had

[clear plume]

Real talk tho whm fucks in 10 damage wise

[torn mesa]

I always hold Ogi for the cleaves

[clear plume]

Like it’s not an ast fight

Misery stonks are real I fear

[torn mesa]

the timing is kind of tight too

[clear plume]

And whm multidotting is really strong

[torn mesa]

I have about a 3s window where it's not too early for the 2M window and not too late for the 4M window

[clear plume]

My tome weapon whm hit for 410k with misery

AST is

[torn mesa]

Vamp Stomp might be the first mechanic

where the melee is on the sweat side and healer on payphone side

of that meme

[clear plume]

Idk do u do centre pop?

[stray forge]

Spoiler is that both are on the pay phone side

[torn mesa]

we do tanks invuln and go in right away

[tawdry delta]

same

[torn mesa]

and melees chill max melee on bats

[clear plume]

Invuln isn’t back up for second set no?

[torn mesa]

but that doesn't work for 2nd set obviously

ye

[worn bluff]

my first arena split

[jolly flume]

tell dank to lightning shot and take his spot

[torn mesa]

I mean, with invuln up, it's full uptime for everyone

[clear plume]

Have M1 (or whichever has less options) instantly break middle, then go to t1, t1 pops when the vuln falls off with t2, have a single melee use a ranged option or they can squeeze left right of back of boss if they want and you have room

https://medal.tv/games/ff-xiv-online/clips/lUOG6IW6y7pTAI1ki?invite=cr-MSxiQ3gsMTQ4MDYzMzIy&v=46

My group did some fun runs and practiced it

[torn mesa]

the only melees that have options

are VPR and NIN

[clear plume]

Full uptime with that movement

I think drg used to piercing talon but yeah

This clip gnb ate a bat DD but had room to not

Gnb in general played this pull king of bad looking at it

But yeah the idea is for sure able to work

Even waiting max melee of the bats and going in after they explode bc they have set positions is for sure a thing that can be done

Can probably do all 4 north of boss

[worn bluff]

hector has something in his guide about it but i don't think i trust PF to do it

[stray forge]

This is literally what we do

All melee just goes in at the same time

But I guess it means like 2 seconds of lost uptime

[worn bluff]

rotate in pairs to safe spot and then pop 2 seconds apart from your partner

[clear plume]

I know drg apparently doesn’t lose anything in opener using EPT tho bc of how dot timing works out with the saw phase

So I think they want a reason to use that anyways

To delay chaos thrust to first gcd of that instead of on boss

[torn mesa]

but 1st you just invuln

[jolly flume]

well in that case you could just hold invuln for the second one

[torn mesa]

you can't invuln 3rd then

so it defeats the point

[jolly flume]

I forgot there's even 3 ngl

I just sit at the wall and press 1

[torn mesa]

realistic answer is just 1 melee has to take a GCD of downtime for 2nd I think

[clear plume]

Yeah it’s hard to have a comp with zero options for it really

[valid solar]

melees will troll the party for uptime and still do less damage than the pranged

[clear plume]

Well yeah do u know how hard I pad apex on those mf adds

Don’t check my logs damage to boss compared to total damage

[valid solar]

pf tanks and melee in m10 are cooked man

why do they keep killing each other

[torn mesa]

where are they killing each other

in 10

9 during vamp stomp I get it

but 10 lol

[amber fable]

They kissed and clipped each other

On proteans

[valid solar]

anywhere there is a spread

[jolly flume]

the devious and intimidating surfboard pointing up

[valid solar]

oh yeah melee greeding the tb happens too

thats always funny to see

[amber fable]

M10 dps check is lax tbf

[torn mesa]

don't worry uptime snaking and pac man arena split coming soon

minimal melee downtime at that point

[valid solar]

whats uptime snaking ?

ive seen pac man arena

[jolly flume]

I still like the idea more where you send all melees to one side and if you lose the 50/50 like 7 minutes deep into the fight you wall it

[torn mesa]

same as regular snaking but modified jump positions to not be in narnia

Chiyo that dot doesn't do that much

[jolly flume]

no I know

[torn mesa]

I can almost full heal it myself

[valid solar]

I still dont get why they send tank and melee to the far spot and healer/ranged to the close spot

shouldnt it be the other way around so less movement

[worn bluff]

you don't get to pick which side water jumps to

[amber fable]

Because pf is dumb

Why use brain

[worn bluff]

oh i thought you meant split

[amber fable]

Do what rp says

[jolly flume]

I just don't care enough to do that strat, if you wanna walk through and eat the dot I'll just throw you something no harm no foul

[clear plume]

Tank doesnt want to be the last to be outside bc boss won’t position right if you do

[jolly flume]

I don't think I have a lightspeed charge for that anyway lol

[worn bluff]

i'm guessing they just wanted healer/caster to have less movement

[amber fable]

Idk man

[torn mesa]

honestly the worst part

[valid solar]

I still havent seen split arena niko

[worn bluff]

i think healer should bait first though

[valid solar]

its cooked

[amber fable]

The boss fucks off to side

[torn mesa]

is the fact I can't gap close

during arena split

[amber fable]

And now nobody is baiting cleave

[torn mesa]

without taking a burn

[clear plume]

Issue with one melee runs though arena split is the uh

[torn mesa]

that's so dumb

[amber fable]

Or baiting it on fire

[clear plume]

Pair markers if they target dps

They’re cooked cooked

[jolly flume]

don't those do like

200k

[torn mesa]

less

lol

they do hilariously little damage

like 150k

[clear plume]

Solo with a bleed went bad in testing for cerp

[worn bluff]

tbh it took me longer than that in PF. once you get past split arena it's ez clear

[clear plume]

Even monk with RoE didn’t appreciate it

[torn mesa]

tanks can just give short CD right

[jolly flume]

I have 20% and 400p of shields I can throw at you for fun

[clear plume]

We had HoC oblation TBN and RoE and the monk would die if not instantly topped up before and after it bc bleed was like 60k ticks still so taking 100k isn’t great math wise

[torn mesa]

ok Chiyo

[clear plume]

Possible though, but it gets into full babysitting territory

[torn mesa]

I gap close tomorrow

if we get water far

[clear plume]

Just don’t get the bleed cheat the ticks

[jolly flume]

I have an essential dignity shaped pacifier for my widdle baby melees

it's ok

[rain geode]

Should I play melee then

[clear plume]

(I know I can en avant through the fire and not get it sometimes)

[rain geode]

I mean what

[torn mesa]

okay fr fr is it not just a

tank LB and all cross angle

[jolly flume]

I feel like there's a decent chance leon could just rescue you through ngl

[clear plume]

We are testing giga mit all party strats soon ™

[jolly flume]

if you go fast enough surely the server doesn't register

[thin fox]

i fucking hate how the vamp stomp aoes are smaller than the visual

90% of the time in the mechanic it looks like i'm getting venn diagrammed

becauyse the visual is like so much larger than the actual aoe

oh let me pull out a clip of "how tf did i dodge that"

[torn mesa]

Am I cooked if I am considering using ranged attack on surfboard

if my GCD roll is terrible timing wise

[clear plume]

Ik other samurais have backstepped into enpi while they’re moving bc of cancelled gcds if they don’t

[thin fox]

idk wtf happened on the other side to fuck up the proteans this bad but i dodged this by like 1 pixel https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4pTu1xv9LlgywThKPcjeT7qXRru0NGDm?si=7AFgNbl6xN8vDEtR

[worn bluff]

using a ranged attack gives you an instant 0 parse

[torn mesa]

I don't have any cast issues there

it's just melee GCDs can't hit boss when they move

[jolly flume]

it was happening to me even on fucking mch today when I had to position awkwardly bc of bad fire placements

[worn bluff]

the clip is so weird during that

[jolly flume]

it's so infuriating

[worn bluff]

why not just leave them targetable

[torn mesa]

they are targetable

[clear plume]

The moving positions just breaks the rule of “target must be in front of you”

[torn mesa]

as ranged, you might still make it work

[clear plume]

Fru p3 opener does it to mch too, you have to start phase behind Gaia or you lose a gcd to her fucking middle

As ranged you just go where they’re going to and it’s fine yeah

[torn mesa]

as melee, it's a what do I do but roll GCD angle

[clear plume]

I think healers need further out but prange at least they’re within sight cone

[thin fox]

insane air isnt too bad since the movement is all predictable

[jolly flume]

you can use that to force an extra roller dash as queen's 5th gcd though it's peak

only time I've ever gotten to use that tech

[clear plume]

I have had a team intentionally pull the boss to force it on mch

[rapid whale]

thoughts on fire tank voking water boss while they are casting shared tb before tidal wave

[clear plume]

[rapid whale]

since you can get a few gcd of cleave during 2s

its only like 3-4 but still

[clear plume]

Yumiya wanted to see it done as cursed tech they could bring up if mch ever becomes meta

To completely grief melees for

[jolly flume]

if mch ever becomes meta

[clear plume]

Next tier for SURE

[rapid whale]

wonder part of the copium squad ic

[clear plume]

Back in my day double prange was meta

Bapple I didn’t rename myself “bard sucks” bc I want to not play mch

[rapid whale]

put the rdps in the bag

[jolly flume]

feels great to know I'm hard griefing every time I hop on my comfort job

[clear plume]

Warrior….

[robust shoal]

onetricking drk stays winning

except sb

but in sb there was skill expression in the game so being good at drk made it fine to play

[jolly flume]

maybe my true calling is like

[clear plume]

Sb drk still had tbn bless up

[jolly flume]

nin or something

[robust shoal]

I miss gcd manip with tbn on sb drk

[jolly flume]

has that job ever been remotely bad

[clear plume]

Chiyo is just stealing every class I’ve ever mained back to back

[robust shoal]

tbn gave you a bloodspiller so with known length uptime phases you could do a certain # of tbn to finish on a complete souleater combo

[clear plume]

Current drg has that apparently

[jolly flume]

pld kinda still does stuff like that ig

do your funny hardcasts to not end on a shit combo step

[clear plume]

Well that’s more of a

If boss is disappearing in the next gcd or two you just Holy Spirit

Not super plan it ahead of time

[jolly flume]

yeah

I need a time machine back to stormblood so I can see what all the fuss was about

curse of 6.4 baby

[clear plume]

People were complaining about jobs being babyfied versions of hw

[jolly flume]

yknow what

that sounds about right

[clear plume]

Stormblood got rid of most maintained gcd buffs/debuff options from variant combos

So instead of warrior having 3 combo finishers and 2 different combos entirely

And people didn’t like that

[torn kindle]

Also a lot of standalone DoTs/buffs got axed

[clear plume]

Yeah, which had a lot of “use this unless it costs you a combo”

It also reduced the potency of most combo actions used outside of a combo

So ninja wouldnt AE at the end of a phase anymore

With no combo

[torn kindle]

And some combo skills pre-SB flat-out didn’t buff or apply their debuff if you didn’t hit the required positional

Which meant redoing the combo

[pale blade]

people don’t like anything in this game

I can acknowledge that the game has problems myself and that people can too

but identifying them is not their strong suit

[jolly flume]

I feel like I would've liked old healers

🥀

[pale blade]

perhaps

[rapid whale]

wasnt og astro galaxy brain

[pale blade]

yes

[clear plume]

Do we count “draw balance and don’t draw not balance” as galaxy brain?

[jolly flume]

endwalker ast was pretty fun to me

besides the whole one charge of lightspeed thing

[robust shoal]

trick attack had to hit positional to do the debuff

and you couldn't true north every one

[rapid whale]

o right you broke combo if you missed a positional

i remember hearing abt that

[clear plume]

Like I think sb ast was better than hw 100% bc earthly star was a game changer

But god do I miss her (enhanced balance 30% single target buff for 20 seconds)

[jolly flume]

I gotta wonder what they're gonna do with the jobs next expansion

I have this sinking feeling that scholar is getting reworked

[tawdry delta]

I honestly prefer easier door bosses like p4p1 and m12p1 instead of body check fiestas

With more difficult p2s

[clear plume]

Honestly I think the “job rework” will be very low scale compared to people’s expectations

Maybe rpr and mch get touch ups to their gauge and that’s about all I’m expecting

[tawdry delta]

It will be not nearly as extensive as people predict

[jolly flume]

yeah I don't think the changes will be nearly as sweeping as people like to think they will be but I also 100% see some jobs on the chopping block for "jank"

[rapid whale]

Every job becomes smn

[jolly flume]

like I predicted a gunbreaker rework for 8.0 and I was right it just happened early lol

[rapid whale]

Perfectly looping rotations

[tawdry delta]

But SE will probably make 8.05 savage lhw level or even lower due to fear of friction from the job updates

[clear plume]

Chiyo if having jank required a rework sch would be in a grave a decade ago

[rapid whale]

Nah I think they said never again for lhw level of easy no

[jolly flume]

gunbreaker JUST got shot for the sin of being able to overcap

see you never dissipation

[clear plume]

Gunbreaker got shot for the sin of downtime making it unviable to most players basically

With an ulti coming up

[rain geode]

Got shot might be a bit of an overstatement

[daring pine]

curse of 6.55 baby here

dude chiyo

[clear plume]

And it being the only 2m tank job not named drk meant it almost became powerful so that needed to be stopped

[rapid whale]

The gear from this tier will be bis in ultimate until like 8.5 right

[daring pine]

i started on the DAY 6.55 dropped

[clear plume]

Only drk gets 2m cds

[tawdry delta]

Yes

[clear plume]

Oh god they’re gonna kill drk

[tawdry delta]

Unless if they release relic early (like before the ulti)

[rapid whale]

Doomerbread

[tawdry delta]

But final relic will be better than m12s weapon once it releases

[clear plume]

Listen the gnb change to lionheart only makes sense if the idea is to make tank jobs 1m and not 2m based at all

[rapid whale]

But will it be better than the ultimate weapon itself I wonder

[tawdry delta]

Oh you meant long term

Relic will be better

Than m12s

[rapid whale]

The extra stat from relic will be worth more than 3 material?

[clear plume]

Im expecting a 680-685 relic realistically

[pale blade]

hwat

[clear plume]

This tiers relics so far are 2 fully capped stats plus having 2 materia so

Expacks*

[pale blade]

I expect relics to be 775 for this cycle

then finally 795 in the next

customizable substats a given too

I really want Bozja-style custom substats

I think it’s no secret that Manderville relics are disliked universally but I also did because you couldn’t tune substats down to the single digits

[rapid whale]

If they go with 5 sub stat again wouldn't it make a lot of jobs really wonky because of sks sps

[pale blade]

Niche micro-optimization is fun, trust me

[rapid whale]

X to doubt

[pale blade]

no

[rain geode]

They are in a weird spot with job design where very few of the jobs really have anything you can actually add to their kits

[pale blade]

I mean

it would give me plenty of reason to toss out both Shadowbringers and Endwalker relics for Ultimates

[rain geode]

Maybe I'll get some flack for this but honestly I feel like you should be able to hit Seraphism while under dissipation (or I guess just generally without the fairy)

[tulip wraith]

today i learned you can buy the weapon tomestone with m12n drops

[dapper zealot]

yeah after 7 weeks

[thin fox]

since we were joking about M11S being ultimate level prog

I decided to go check my TEA static

damn thats crazy to look at

I got burned out before I could clear DSR but I thought I'd check to compare

I dont really remember our prog looking like this but if we made it through the early part fairly quickly and then got stick that would explain how I got so burned out

[valid solar]

the absolute state of m10 PF

[thin fox]

slow start and fast end feels much nicer than fast start and slow end

[thin fox]

mb

i'm new

[valid solar]

I just want to see split arena man

but pf either wipes to snaking or enrages on the orb

[thin fox]

if youre progging just send 2m on the orb

dont trust pf to hold

[trim frost]

how does one enrage on the orb 🧍‍♂️

[amber fable]

By being bad at game

[thin fox]

people who (a) hold 2m, but (b) cant do damage

[trim frost]

that one guy who was souleatermaxxing

[amber fable]

I 123 only there

Its enough to kill it

[valid solar]

I do, but when your teammates cant actually do the mech right and kill each other or themselves...

[amber fable]

Tether are set after first dash

Literally just have to go up or down

Be at mid

And move if you see marker on your head

[alpine plover]

@thin fox

[pale blade]

me ooptime

[alpine plover]

how much % does the boss need to have

at arena split

in m11s

to look clearable

[trim frost]

hmm

the clear vod i watched killed around enrage time and had 47% at flatliner cast

[alpine plover]

awk

[thin fox]

i only know for final towers orz

[rain geode]

Fail to do 10% of its health

[thin fox]

i just know that going into final towers it should <13.5%

[rain geode]

It's so bad

[finite plank]

dps check is probably 234.5k

45% when flatliner is cast

20%-18% when ecliptic stampede is cast

maybe it's 232k dps?

232k dps

[alpine plover]

ok we are at about 220k dps but without a pranged (we took a rdm for prog) and none of us is potting , and at flatliner at this config we are at about 48% (with 2 DDs too)

so i think we'll be good when we go for the clear dps wise

[amber fable]

Pots and no dds

And you clear

Or maybe you eat it and still clear

[finite plank]

2dds and 48% is high considering it's not as bad as a death

maybe it's a pot diff but eh

[worn bluff]

[valid solar]

Sam had DP btw

Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of machinists power /s

[boreal pumice]

doing my first savage , its drs , they stuck me on shield healer ... were cooked

[vast jacinth]

Delubrum reginae savage?

[amber fable]

Dragon rise song

[vast jacinth]

Enjoy xD if its still one session to kill : 3hrs and its done xD most time is spent explaining mechanics

[wicked delta]

Took me like

2 runs to get a clear

First run we wiped on trinity avowed

[vast jacinth]

I guess i was lucky in my run

[wicked delta]

Group I was in was p good

Leader had to tell us to stop pressing buttons

We were killing too fast apparently

[boreal pumice]

putting me on shield healer of all things , i dont want responsibility i wanna be a brainless dps

[worn bluff]

idk seems like mch needs a nerf

[molten moon]

You don't need to mit shit in DRS lol

Assuming everyone is on a pure essence, you just rely on your cure 4 casters to heal

[wicked delta]

Healers in DRS are rez bots

Well

[molten moon]

Cure 4 is broken since the stat squish

[wicked delta]

Yeah thats your only responsibility

[molten moon]

Healers responsibility in DRS is mainly to apply spellforge/steelsting, reflect/dispel shit and arise corpses

[boreal pumice]

in the prep they say have deep essence so hopefully aint slacking not like you have anything nice to spend clusters on after they put all the fucking loot in oc

[molten moon]

Usually they will drop people if they don't have deep essences when you load in

DRS has been solved into a Sherpa fight now

[boreal pumice]

odd question but did the mettle for 10/10/10 dmg/hp/healing come out b4 or after drs

[molten moon]

After

That came with zadnor

[boreal pumice]

i got this on prep , so my load outs ready

[true beacon]

Cotton knows her DRS

[boreal pumice]

whats a sherpa fight anyway?

[molten moon]

Raid lead can call 90% of mechanics

[boreal pumice]

ah BA all over again

[molten moon]

Just listen to them and don't die too much, then EZ clear

[boreal pumice]

whys it called sherpa ?

[molten moon]

That's just how I call it

You have 1 person just telling people where to do

[boreal pumice]

what rewards do you get anyway beside the achivement for cerb mount on 1st clear

[visual geyser]

Dyable judge gear

Rng drop tho

[boreal pumice]

is it personal loot or shared/group

[molten moon]

Progress towards totems that let you upgrade judge gear into their dyable version

[boreal pumice]

i do like laws order giving that gabrath look

[sleek moon]

FTB nerf when

[molten moon]

When they stop making dead stars a body check

Legit that's the biggest wall in the fight now

[molten moon]

Holy lance in magitaur can be easily skipped when people get more mastery lol

[boreal pumice]

i signed up for FT as well got that on monday , i get to throw money at the boss

[rapid whale]

something somethign the gap between purple and green healer dmg is unironically bigger than purple and green dps

like not even %

literal raw dps

[molten moon]

Is the tier tuned too hard if Jp can't hit the dps checks

[scarlet lintel]

Why do people hide their logs

It makes it feel sketchy to let them in my parties especially when they’re 20% hp below the prog point

[stray forge]

No jp is bad too

[wicked delta]

Sometimes they have a terrible log

So they feel shame

Hide it until it looks good

[scarlet lintel]

That’s the impression I get every time

Hiding logs doesn’t scream confident player

[rapid whale]

I don't trust hidden logs but I don't kick over them

[wicked delta]

Sometimes its also bc they got harassed due to their logs for whatever

So they hide them

[rapid whale]

It just increases my pessimism by like 10%

[scarlet lintel]

lol

[wicked delta]

That’s the two main reasons ive seen

[scarlet lintel]

What sort of harassment arises from logs

[wicked delta]

I remember one person talked on twitter about wanting to do high end content like ultimates

Someone decided to search their character’s name in fflogs

And posted their normal mode parses

Then was like

“You’re already this terrible in baby content I dont know why you would even try”

It was some sad shit to witness tbh

[manic nimbus]

Does AAC usually take a bit on PF

[true beacon]

You mean savage?

[manic nimbus]

Normal

I been waiting for M1 for 28m

[loud nymph]

why are you PFing normal

[wicked delta]

Just use duty finder lol

[scarlet lintel]

Who the hell cares about parses for normal content 😭

[wicked delta]

Idk

Losers

[manic nimbus]

That’s what I meant

Oh now it popped

[scarlet lintel]

Even some gray parses for high end I think is fine. A clear is a clear and sometimes ur unlucky. I just think it’s a problem if it’s consistent gray

[wicked delta]

Its like

Even if they’re bad now

They can always improve

Idk what telling someone “dont even try” accomplishes

[scarlet lintel]

Fr

[kind elm]

dont come to the TEA PF tomorrow.

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shaking-dog-wobbling-artqngel-gif-21411744

[manic nimbus]

um

i meant duty finder

[wicked delta]

Everyone’s basically done the older ones so thats why its harder to find ppl

[kind elm]

its like barely noon for NA ppl are at work

[remote gate]

if youre in NA then its probably cuz its early - mid day and ppl are at work/school

[wicked delta]

Also that

[remote gate]

maybe try again at around <t:1768510800:t>

thats when ppl start logging in

[manic nimbus]

ah its that kind of thing

[loud nymph]

I mean yeah

people don't generally play FFXIV when they're at work or school

and people are generally at work or school in the middle of the day

[worn bluff]

i mean to be fair i can understand being a brand new raider and still not being comfortable and on top of it you learn that people pull up your number and judge you for it

not saying the number doesn't matter, but if you're used to other types of video games, this concept of logs can be weird

[remote gate]

would you rather have a raider with grey/green logs or a raider with hidden logs

[loud nymph]

grey/green

[wicked delta]

Grey green

[remote gate]

cuz grey/green you know they can at least do the fight?

[boreal pumice]

hiding is to sus

[loud nymph]

hidden logs = someone who's so parse obsessed that they are embarrassed about their logs AND is so bad that they are not actually improving

[wicked delta]

I know what to expect

Hidden logs can be literally anything

[mossy eagle]

I'd take a grey over a hidden logs personally

Ideally neither but beggers can't be choosers

[manic nimbus]

How do you get totems

[mossy eagle]

Clearing extreme or ultimate fights

Depending on what totems you want

What are you trying to obtain?

[manic nimbus]

I was just looking at the miscellany shop and was curious

probably necron or doomtrain totem

[zealous meteor]

you do necron/doomtrain ex

2 totems per clear (for those two fights at least, sometimes it's 1 totem per clear), 10 totems for a weapon or 99 for a mount

[manic nimbus]

are those limited weekly

[zealous meteor]

both weapons and mount can drop directly, but you have to roll on them, the totems are a pity system

they are not limited

[manic nimbus]

oh i see

[remote gate]

you can still find doomtrain party finders grinding doom train for totems and weapons

[zealous meteor]

extremes are unlimited from release, raids get their restrictions lifted later
(normal/alliance raids: next major patch, ultimate raids: next major patch (afaik), savage raids: near the end of the next major patch)

[manic nimbus]

i didnt search yet

i was more like oh can i view this and its not able to be unlocked yet or i can unlock it cause i can see it

[zealous meteor]

you need to finish the current msq for doomtrain/necron

[manic nimbus]

im looking at stuff i can get since i finished msq yesterday

[zealous meteor]

as they're the patch 7.4 and 7.3 extremes and based on msq trials

[manic nimbus]

Yeah

i finished msq yesterday

[zealous meteor]

the raids only require finishing 7.0

yeah then talk to the wandering minstrel in tuliyollal

he'll unlock them for you

[manic nimbus]

Oh

Thanks

[worn bluff]

when m11s PF says "outer markers" it means stand on the outside edge right?

not "the markers are further out"

[mossy eagle]

That's my assumption but ask Pf lead

I've only ever heard them referenced in terms of where you stand

[worn bluff]

ig there's probably a way to tell from looking at them

[mossy eagle]

Hector shows both so you can compare against the ground arena

[scarlet lintel]

yeah i mean fair but its just weird when it happens in parties with experienced raiders. it happened in m12s. i didnt kick them but when i mentioned it they addmitted they were prog skippinga nd left

[worn bluff]

yeah i mean it's valid to use whatever info you have to figure out your odds of success, and decide who to party with

at the same time i can understand someone who comes from other games being "this is kind of creepy/weird"

[stray forge]

I hide my logs because I’m used to getting kicked from groups in wow for not having straight 99s

I don’t actually hide my logs please don’t dogpile me

[quick verge]

cooly broke my legs outside of my college's library once

[wicked delta]

Why didn’t you just dodge

Loserrrrrrr

[quick verge]

rpr enshroud fear

[stray forge]

When did college kids start becoming discord mods

[wicked delta]

Biscuit is like 45

[quick verge]

i have a 401k and a wife and kids

and a bf

[wicked delta]

Oh hes bisexual I didn’t know that

[stray forge]

Sorry I couldn’t tell he was 45

[quick verge]

67

[stray forge]

He didn’t show his steam account age logs

Wtf 9 servers in common

I’m out

[kind elm]

i miss cooly he was my favourite boater player

[tame shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[vestal hollow]

boater sounds like a slur

[dreamy whale]

What is “supp prog”

[vestal hollow]

in

what context

[dreamy whale]

Uwu

[rapid whale]

did i tell u i was in pf with them a few times

[vestal hollow]

suppression

[dreamy whale]

Ohg im not there yet

[quick verge]

he obviously carried u

[rapid whale]

fre

[tame shuttle]

Bappol

[rapid whale]

aloo

[jolly flume]

@wicked delta overcooked in a few...

[tame shuttle]

Chiyo

[jolly flume]

lizzer!

[wicked delta]

Since when did we agree to this bruh

[kind elm]

LIZZER

🦎

[tame shuttle]

OLIVIA FREN

[jolly flume]

I didn't ask if you did

get in the kitchen my twink

[dreamy whale]

Moomoo back on uwu prog

[vestal hollow]

damn lizzer didnt say hi

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-scared-afraid-gif-17069695293861682794

[tame shuttle]

[wicked delta]

????? What is WRONG WITH YOU

[tame shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-huh-confused-meme-gif-3282660700962977407

LMAOO

[vestal hollow]

cmon twink boy

[jolly flume]

I just wanna play overcooked

[worn bluff]

post lizzer pic

[jolly flume]

ok lemme log on

[wicked delta]

Dude this fucking guy

Im literally making my dinner

And I promised to do rouls with bf

[worn bluff]

lizzer-lounge

[jolly flume]

i'll do those too

I need tomes

[jolly flume]

sch lounge in balance thank me later

[stray forge]

Is bf in this server I want to meet

[wicked delta]

I think so

@bold basin

I don’t know if he will even respond

[bold basin]

Who are you

[worn bluff]

wait you weren't lying

[stray forge]

[wicked delta]

Ok man

Im breaking up with you

[bold basin]

😭

I did it for the bit

But yeah hi I’m the fabled bf

[wicked delta]

Im not delusional hes a real person

[stray forge]

I stalked his connected profiles and I can’t believe ur dating someone who plays genshin….

🥀

[worn bluff]

i can't post in sch lounge though my SCH is 0

[wicked delta]

🥀

[jolly flume]

I wasn't

scholar lounge is the promised land

lizzerposts all day every day

[vestal hollow]

? there's no one there

[wicked delta]

Ok man.

[vestal hollow]

i think the gas from the kitchen is getting to your head

[stray forge]

I went to rpr lounge expecting to see coolyposts instead I found a bunch of gay women in a cuddle puddle 🤯

[wicked delta]

Well

Cooly is banned from balance

So thats why

[stray forge]

LMAO

[bold basin]

That was a dark spot in my life

[quick verge]

banned from the balance is insane work

[dreamy whale]

Hi guys

[worn bluff]

now i have to level SCH so i can post there

[loud swift]

coolyposts has done irreparable damage to the xiv raiding community what the heck

[dreamy whale]

Is kugane the only hinganshi aetheryte

[loud swift]

yes

everything else in othard

[dreamy whale]

Actual waste of a category

Diabolical

[loud swift]

kinda true kinda real

[jolly flume]

we accept all lizzers regardless of employment status

[dreamy whale]

Chiyo whats new with u

[stray forge]

Guys rpr lounge is just ppl flirting with each other

Is this the true reaper meta

[boreal pumice]

good for them

[dreamy whale]

How many people should I have in pf to unsync E4S

[manic nimbus]

where would that be erm asking for a friend

[worn bluff]

is this one ok

[loud swift]

only people who can tolerate reapers are other reapers

[stray forge]

😭

[jolly flume]

[zealous meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/undertale-true-true-undertale-gif-7033919807107339013

[loud swift]

4-5 geared level 100s is a generally pretty good amount to unsync e4s in my experience

[rapid whale]

they look so mad

[worn bluff]

it's the street fighter VS face

[stray forge]

Something is going on with that chin…

[rapid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gifs-to-communicate-gifs-reaction-gifs-reaction-anime-kawaii-gif-14065051

is what the expression reminds me of

[worn bluff]

angy

[rapid whale]

idk what show this is but that puffed out cheek angy

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-modernia-marian-big-head-angry-gif-6789801042687247120

[boreal pumice]

have you seen the vid of the 14 evo moment?

[worn bluff]

nop show me pls

[boreal pumice]

i would if i could post x links

[rapid whale]

the full party on chun super will live in my mind forever

[worn bluff]

i don't even play SF i just like the faces they make

[boreal pumice]

perfect parry roaring crowd and into it a win cineama

[jolly flume]

reddit post about the state of pf

[zealous meteor]

habsburg moment

[rapid whale]

i feel like thats one of those moments ppl see and are like o this is why esports is a thing

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/gameof-thrones-got-lion-concern-opinions-gif-19752699

[wicked delta]

@jolly flume which overcooked do i get bruh

im not spending 22 bucks on ts

[jolly flume]

oh

just get the first one ig

i'm a steam family abuser myself

[wicked delta]

[stray forge]

I’ll be ur family Tobias

[low hearth]

dude these mfs griefing ultimate trophy weapon need to be dissected

[low hearth]

dang i dont blame mfs leaving after 2 wipes

[stray forge]

whats ultimate trophy weapon

:^)

[quick verge]

chatgpt mechanic

[stray forge]

can i try

[low hearth]

😭

My reign is absolute! I will not lose! 🐂

[worn bluff]

weapons make me miss superchain 1

that was more fun

[low hearth]

m11s lowkey sucks ass

[worn bluff]

i haven't done m12 yet but m10 is my favorite this tier so far

[mossy eagle]

M10S is funky fresh

[low hearth]

👉 🪦

[stray forge]

it will be #1

[mossy eagle]

Listing something as a prog point because their corpse got dragged there is just kind of silly

[dull drum]

eh its a waste of time though

had a whm writing essays after 2 wipes

about how our pt had brain damage because we didnt do the rinon braindead arena split or whatever

[low hearth]

😭

wiping to orbital omen is kinda crazy bruh

[sleek moon]

mb was getting my cast off

[jolly flume]

everyone with a brain already went into the logs to check what actually happened so

I honestly don't mind this too much

I just use the front page progress as an instant kick flag if they're way behind

[sleek moon]

yeah filtering those that dont put the extra 30s of effort to look up the activity would be good

[jolly flume]

[inner apex]

Last tier, someone in my FC accidentally queued for M8S and it showed that her latest prog was like 50% M8S when she actually just starting M6S adds when the tier ended. Another reason why just looking at the prog point isn't entirely reliable.

[kind elm]

wait so not only did they accidentally join an m8s party

they also like got to 50%

thats kinda funny

[jolly flume]

I mean if they made it to 50% m8s

their prog point is indeed 50% m8s

[kind elm]

welcome aboard

[mortal flower]

^

But also that's on the user to pay attention to

[jolly flume]

besides I can just rightclick a party and in two context menus I can see the logs and prog% of every player in it so

not like if they joined a 7 party or something I couldn't tell

[mortal flower]

No you can't
I've played in console only parties

I'm like way further ahead you just wouldn't know with your plogons

[jolly flume]

if you don't have logs you're gone

why would I care

there's a billion other people out there to fill my pf

lol

[finite plank]

^

hidden logs are sus as hell, having no logs is a giveaway that requires a miracle

[dull drum]

mb

[kind elm]

welcome to high end raiding

[mortal flower]

Plogons truly were a mistake

[dull drum]

no logs = walking through tsa with a giant vest loaded with explosives

[mortal flower]

Lets kill em all

[finite plank]

nah, just make it na

[jolly flume]

I raided enough before the era of tomestone

I don't want to go back to that

it was fucking miserable

[wicked delta]

what if ur already chinese

[kind elm]

id rather have someone with tangible evidence that they can play the game in my pf than risk wasting like 30 minutes of my life in pf to find out they dont even have a peripheral plugged into their system

[stray forge]

I have literally been chinese since the day I was born

[jolly flume]

same

🥀

[kind elm]

i hope they find a cure 💔

[wicked delta]

you have met me at a very chinese point of my life

[jolly flume]

thanks bestie 💔

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hsr-soundoriented-gif-10506994352190635451

[mossy eagle]

I got my M9S and M10S reclears done in like 3 pulls each by aggressively using PFradar and FFLogsviewer

Those things are a fucking miracle for PF

[mortal flower]

I'm gonna pretend like I know what those are

Yeah. Woo. Go you and your funny little cheat mods