#endgame-lounge

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jolly flume
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your point?

shadow pilot
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Damn the quotes

fierce matrix
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use it whm main

shadow pilot
wicked delta
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Dont you have light speed

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For AST

jolly flume
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dude lightspeed is not good in 11

low hearth
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SUDDENLY I WANNA BE ๐Ÿ˜ค RIDINโ€™ FREE ๐ŸŒŠ XTREME ๐Ÿ’ฅ OH BABY CANโ€™T YOU SEE ๐Ÿ‘€
โœ‚๏ธ CUT THE LEASH โœ‚๏ธ SO I CAN BREATHE ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ NOW IN ME ๐Ÿ’ช I CAN BELIEVE โœจ
๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR
๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE ๐Ÿชž
๐Ÿ˜Ž SAW THE ME THAT I WANNA BE ๐Ÿ˜Ž IN THE MIRROR
๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ RIGHT WHERE WE OUGHTTA BE ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ

fierce matrix
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we did double shield in 11 btw

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the shit fucks bro

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like 100% do it

thin fox
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if i hear this line in normal mode i'm gonna instinctively start kitchen sinking

shadow pilot
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double shield >>>> whm

jolly flume
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11 didn't hurt enough for me to consider it but the instant I saw 12

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I was like yeah

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i'm getting on sage

fierce matrix
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try double shield in 11

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its fun

shadow pilot
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The Fixer

jolly flume
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perhaps

wicked delta
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The Fixer

jolly flume
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fixer aint even the worst part of that fight

fierce matrix
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the best part is my static didn't know four way fireball was buddies

jolly flume
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you can spreadlo every single one of them

fierce matrix
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or two way was 4 person stacks

jolly flume
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oh yeah you just mit that 300k failed stack

fierce matrix
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we took them 4 way solo

jolly flume
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good practice for 12

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xdd

fierce matrix
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LOL

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we didnt know

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we just through it hurt alot

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so we put HoL + Kera + Holos

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and I think Rep+feint

jolly flume
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what a drag....

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let's do this together, bro

robust shoal
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we figured out they were shares but we also know how to mit and that seemed simpler

trim frost
shadow pilot
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TIL

jolly flume
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mitting the failed stacks is unironically not even harder than topping the tethers off anyways

shadow pilot
jolly flume
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i'd rather just mit and if people manage to share them correctly cool

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god bless 7.4 white mage for having plenary be useful there

low hearth
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m10s reclears ...

shadow pilot
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It's always the 10s huh

low hearth
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i totally killed bro in spreads and they just kicked him

fierce matrix
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I think its cause lucrezia also did the same and our 9th man made raidplans based on their strats iirc

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so we just kinda listened to what he gave us

thin fox
low hearth
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pac man arena split

amber fable
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Man lost loot at 96

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Got green with 5 dds still

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Not completely washed

round hazel
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!mute 735759876629725294 1h

storm frostBOT
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@thin fox has been muted by @round hazel for 1 hour!

round hazel
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Please don't make jokes about that controversial figure

trim frost
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only controversial figure around here is my smokin hot bod

jade nimbus
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Mobile aaaah moment

echo ibex
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Do I get tome weapon on drg or choker and go back to 2.5

low hearth
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bruh these merc parties aint filling

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where are the plumbers bruh

echo ibex
alpine plover
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by the way

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how is ecliptic stampede

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in like difficulty and/or cringe

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i didn't see many mentions of that here so i guess it's fine?

jagged aspen
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you get some memes but its not bad

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ppl need to remember their tower prio and not forget which way is clockwise

alpine plover
jagged aspen
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you hit boss all the time until you get corner tethers

alpine plover
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cool cool

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holy spirit go brr

echo ibex
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It's fast paced and at the end of the fight

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But other than that it's just, fine

echo ibex
alpine plover
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I am also pulling the most greedy uptimes during weapons ngl

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Ping check dodges

alpine plover
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But it was salvageable if prog

echo ibex
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I really want 2.5 back

jagged aspen
echo ibex
jagged aspen
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oh

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why does the strat put melees together then

echo ibex
odd beacon
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people are so obsessed with changing to the new fangled strat can we just clear

low hearth
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m10s reclear lowkey easy

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got a 86

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think i missed a shadowbringer cleave ๐Ÿฅ€

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fun fight tbh

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SUDDENLY I WANNA BE ๐Ÿ˜ค RIDINโ€™ FREE ๐ŸŒŠ XTREME ๐Ÿ’ฅ OH BABY CANโ€™T YOU SEE ๐Ÿ‘€

pale blade
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bruh a four-hour postmortem on Anthem showed up on my radar

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straight from the executive producer too

valid solar
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that game reall was a missed opportunity

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I played the wizard suit

deft yarrow
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"surely a week is enough for loot parties to reliably do m10s arena split" the ramblings of niave fools two hours ago

tulip anvil
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when i read a guide i cleared it in 2 pulls afterward

deft yarrow
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tell that to pf

low hearth
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hit 1% enrage second pull and cleared third

deft yarrow
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good for you?

low hearth
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like its not hard

deft yarrow
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again
im not saying its hard
its pf

normal blade
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My static is about to attempt m10s, fresh prog.

Advice?

rapid whale
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Have fun

tulip anvil
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you will need to

jagged aspen
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but why does a vampire boss not heal

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make stacks heal her to make pf fun again

tulip anvil
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they learned their lesson with honey B lovely, theyre not putting the players in that hell again

rapid whale
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Honey b was miserable in PF tru

jagged aspen
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well theyre kinda pointless now. wow, tankbusters are big

rapid whale
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One person messes up oh guess we better wipe

pale blade
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was this posted yet

thorn rose
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:o

pale blade
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yeah apparently not

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new tier, new meme

thin fox
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look at this fucking pf i just watched someone get thru holy shit

daring pine
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needle in a haystack ass pf bro

pale blade
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hay in a needlestack

jagged aspen
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why cant i invite people to pf party

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it just says unable to invite to party

thorn rose
daring pine
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look at the parses on the left

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absolutely cooking

thorn rose
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Oh lmfao

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I don't think I've ever passed abover 30 ๐Ÿฅ€

daring pine
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damage numbers also speak for themselves

blissful sail
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What jobs are actually good dps now?

tired egret
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tried strat board for the first time proper

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now doing another one related to this

jagged aspen
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wth is that

cerulean crown
storm frostBOT
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How FFXIV's Meta Works

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

torn kindle
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Very lucky loot drops this week. Got the head/boots/earrings for WHM \o/
shot up from 773 or 774 average to 779

finite plank
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til, the tyrant's stack attack can indeed, be delayed by rapid movement so the time for snapshot is longer

tired egret
torn kindle
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Spin to win

blissful sail
finite plank
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this would normally snapshot as usual if the stack wasn't on me

tired egret
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non numbered role = 2/all who fall under said role

torn kindle
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Time to spin Tyrant for several minutes straight to skip arena split

finite plank
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a fucking roulette...

lyric summit
tired egret
olive hearth
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no loot on 9s, if I dont get anything in 10s im gonna cry

thin fox
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main + alt reclears done

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made 25m gil from LM parties on main. managed to win helmet on alt.

jagged aspen
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all 4?

thin fox
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9/10. didn't managed to clear 11 w1.

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0.54%

pine holly
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same fam

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Oh well

thin fox
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made a gif to commemorate w2 m11s prog

pine holly
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Last night was several of us testing how greedy we could be on those

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And the answer was "idk, sometimes"

torn kindle
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I love meme raidplans

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โ€œMake the healers cry out in AoE heal spam so the DPS can turn their brain offโ€

pine holly
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Wat

random needle
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God forbid a samurai ever has to press Enpi

zealous meteor
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every time a melee player has to use their ranged attack, a baby dies

clear plume
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Meme raidplan?

boreal pumice
pine holly
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Was thinking of grabbing that in two weeks if I get one

thin fox
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i should've cleared m11s man

dapper zealot
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Damn

boreal pumice
finite plank
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reclearing m11s felt like clearing the last floor for how tight the dps check still is due to gear poverty

remote gate
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how are reclears going on pf

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really wanna make sure m9s isn't a shitshow to reclear

worn bluff
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it was ok took 5 pulls on reset but

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everyone forgot the fight

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someone missed hell cell tower every single time including the kill pull

thin fox
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alt (a few hours after reset) vs main (immediately on reset) @remote gate

midnight furnace
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I wonder if more offers like this will still appear later

midnight furnace
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Would be the easiest way for me to get the Simple and Clean Hairstyle

worn bluff
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market board

thin fox
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i had a drk cotank shittalking me for my mistakes in the 1st m9s pull and then they proceeded to die twice and get dds in the clear

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did less dmg than the white mage

dim pollen
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Urrgh why is it so hard to find a party to reclear with

boreal pumice
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because A its a weekday B still work hours

dim pollen
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True but still

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Just want to enjoy my day off and clear some raids

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But people can't seem to get pass sphene without echo.

dapper zealot
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Oh you're trying to do ex

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Yeah good luck with that since everyone is trying to recelar savage

sick reef
low hearth
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idk

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m9s u can kinda bruteforce as long as no one does some dumb ass shit that wipes the raid

scarlet lintel
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My 35 million Gil for 9 and 10 took like 30 minutes

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Then my party for 11 didnโ€™t fill so I went to sleep

random needle
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I would have tried to clear yesterday but I was busy all day and too fried to raid in the evening

scarlet lintel
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how is pf still empt

low hearth
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35mil bruh

scarlet lintel
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ikr

random needle
scarlet lintel
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does this mean my 12s p2 prog parties wont fill

sick reef
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PEOPLE CANNOT DO SADISTIC SCREECH 2 HELP

low hearth
loud nymph
random needle
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The saws don't do any meaningful damage 5hed

sick reef
stray forge
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Me when people get hit by the saws that literally follow the same exact path every time that phase happens

low hearth
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i think one of the adds went off and gave everyone a damage down and we still cleared

sick reef
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time to run it back.. sign

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scrtach prog btw

low hearth
stray forge
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Ranged can take care of nail fuck off you get 1 ogcd

random needle
sick reef
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both healers inmy party claimed tohave cleared it

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"our alts"and they keep dying n dmg downs

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hmmm

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ah now we have a third "alt"

hasty lodge
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I still need to watch some m9s guides, when I ran it blind people kept dying to the bats which I don't understand because its like, just dont go near the bats??

loud nymph
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the trick that helped me was to realize that first bats always detonate 90ยฐ from where they start, so if the initial spawn is n/s they will detonate e/w

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once you know that you can easily pop your debuff then avoid everything

thin fox
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I got so fucking mad doing my alt reclears because I did them with friends and in m10s the scholar offered my friend (black mage) to let her park in the fucking bubble??

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BROTHER

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I AM A PICTOMANCER

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I HAVE LESS MOVEMENT THAN BLACK MAGE

random needle
thin fox
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tfw averager player thinks black mage is a turret caster when its literally 2nd to summoner in terms of how much movement it is

random needle
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Genuinely ljke

The only time we're kinda turreting is with leylines, but now we have Retrace so we can just move them

zealous meteor
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red mage is less mobile than black mage honestly neofox_woozy

thin fox
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this might be a hot take but i think picto straight up has the worst movement lol

zealous meteor
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yes red mage only has to move half the time but you don't get the multiple gcds of movement in a row that black mage does

random needle
loud nymph
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RDM has been less mobile than BLM for a while now

random needle
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Your leylines are bigger, but they're locked to burst and they can't be moved

thin fox
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hammer is good but you need to save a hammer for burst whereas triple cast isnt a gain on black mage anymore

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i don't remember when that happened

random needle
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7.2

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When F4 went from 3s cast to 2s

loud nymph
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BLM has what

Triplecast charges
Xenos
Despair
Paradox
Thunder
40s Swift

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PCT has

Hammer
Comet
Holy which is a DPS loss
40s swift

thin fox
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swift paint is really strong movement but its super limited

sick reef
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MY FUCKIGN GOD IS IT THAT HARD TO HIT FLAILFS AND ODDGE

thin fox
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swift paint is straight up like 5 seconds of not having to hit buttons

random needle
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Imagine if PCT had a second Swiftcast specifically for painting

loud nymph
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yeah true swift paint would give you a looooooong freaking window, can get basically anywhere especially with smudge

hasty lodge
thin fox
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yeah l;egit as ranged you just sit in the back

random needle
loud nymph
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ranged can just brain off during bats

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melees and tanks have to utilize the shared braincell

thin fox
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SUDDENLY I WANNA BE ๐Ÿ˜ค RIDINโ€™ FREE ๐ŸŒŠ XTREME ๐Ÿ’ฅ OH BABY CANโ€™T YOU SEE ๐Ÿ‘€ โœ‚๏ธ CUT THE LEASH โœ‚๏ธ SO I CAN BREATHE ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ NOW IN ME ๐Ÿ’ช I CAN BELIEVE โœจ ๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE ๐Ÿชž ๐Ÿ˜Ž SAW THE ME THAT I WANNA BE ๐Ÿ˜Ž IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ RIGHT WHERE WE OUGHTTA BE ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ

mossy eagle
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I just run in around A and C and if a melee dies they die

thin fox
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i'm seeing peopel fucking struggle in m10s reclears in pf

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ngl

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i got in super early so it was fine

mossy eagle
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Uh oh does not bode well for the employed

mossy eagle
thin tartan
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will this

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6th

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m10 lm pf

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win

mossy eagle
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No

amber fable
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M10 too hard bruh

mossy eagle
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Holy shit just do the mechanics

dapper zealot
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Mb

jagged aspen
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whats up with raidplan saying "stand exactly at waymark corner or else you die"... without telling you where to place the waymarks

low hearth
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SUDDENLY I WANNA BE ๐Ÿ˜ค RIDINโ€™ FREE ๐ŸŒŠ XTREME ๐Ÿ’ฅ OH BABY CANโ€™T YOU SEE ๐Ÿ‘€ โœ‚๏ธ CUT THE LEASH โœ‚๏ธ SO I CAN BREATHE ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ NOW IN ME ๐Ÿ’ช I CAN BELIEVE โœจ ๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ LOOK IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ‘€ AND TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE ๐Ÿชž ๐Ÿ˜Ž SAW THE ME THAT I WANNA BE ๐Ÿ˜Ž IN THE MIRROR ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ RIGHT WHERE WE OUGHTTA BE ๐Ÿ„โ€โ™‚๏ธ

low hearth
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0.01%

alpine plover
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0.01%

thin fox
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10k hp left

jagged aspen
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jeez

thin fox
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actual just crit

sick reef
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everyone alive during stack

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healer lb3s :)

thin tartan
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LFMAO

alpine plover
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how many mnenmonics does m9s give

visual geyser
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20 ish right?

sleek moon
alpine plover
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or 30?

sleek moon
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That's top tier trolling

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Makes sure dots can't tick

alpine plover
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oh actually i wont need to know

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430/450

dapper zealot
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nomnomics

alpine plover
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Nomnom

worn bluff
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damn 10k is like one filler GCD

jagged aspen
sick reef
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healer who claimed to have cleared, "this is my alt"doesnt know diff between amp n spread

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said tyfp n left :)

jagged aspen
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party adjust

jagged aspen
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oh m9 yea that wont work

jagged aspen
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m10 totally though, ppl just stack on healer

sick reef
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fkn so pissed

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"3 alts who cleared"

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all of em bums

limpid edge
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I assume static aether is standard

loud nymph
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static is pretty brain off

limpid edge
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Some might still be doing the old method cuz they cleared earlier

thin tartan
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  • 15 mil
boreal pumice
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EZ

pine holly
sick reef
pine holly
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Dang I would think that would come up

sick reef
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my fault for trusting pf :(

random needle
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I genuinely do not understand messing up static aetherletting

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If you're melee or tank, can't you just go out to your spot when you see the marker appear, wait until it places, then gapclose back in?

mortal flower
zealous meteor
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after the very first time (i thought i was supposed to place it at my vamp stomp location) static aetherletting has been super easy

pine holly
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Hey BTW any pure healers that haven't recleared 9 and 10 yet? We humbly request a sub

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Just throwing it out there

mossy eagle
limpid edge
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Why do I keep getting hit by the split arena proteans?

limpid edge
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Yea

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Also I've only gotten far, never close

low hearth
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what role are u

limpid edge
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Tank

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I know reverse you go middle

low hearth
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um u dodge intercard if its normal

limpid edge
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Seems really tight for some reason

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Maybe I need to go further

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From mid

low hearth
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there should be a big ass gap if none of the ranged players are trolling

sleek moon
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The ranged DPS will be in the safe spot

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Just go hug the ranged

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Assuming they didn't mess up

low hearth
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watch out for the exploding aoes right after that though

limpid edge
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M10S is a "just take the damn downtime" fight

sick reef
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i found my pf "alts" clears guys what a gamer

loud nymph
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1

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well

mortal flower
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

loud nymph
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at least it wasn't a 0

random needle
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In my opinion, all fights are "take the damn downtime" fights

jagged aspen
zealous meteor
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just put the ranged attack in the bag

jagged aspen
limpid edge
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I should play mch this fight

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It's very nice for ranged

dull drum
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LOL

mortal flower
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If one guy just takes the downtime we'd prog

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๐Ÿ˜

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But instead we greeding before enrage is ever a thought in your head

sick reef
vestal hollow
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my perpetual pf curse is every fucking clear pull i get assassinated

sick reef
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how tight is m9s?

jagged aspen
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like 4 deaths and buncha dds and still clear tight

random needle
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Not

loud nymph
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not overly

jagged aspen
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or uh as loose as... uuh idk

limpid edge
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How did pf beat m11s w1?

jagged aspen
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head bang wall

limpid edge
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I heard even melee fed statics had trouble with the DPS check

loud nymph
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my group cleared 9 with 3 deaths and a bunch of DDs

loud nymph
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so it's fairly generous

limpid edge
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There do be some gamers in pf ngl

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Just gotta get lucky

random needle
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And yeah, 9 shouldn't be bad as long as people are playing clean

daring pine
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gg

limpid edge
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I was stuck on the adds phase a bit cuz if lack of mit/healing

loud nymph
limpid edge
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Otherwise DPS check was def most lenient

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I think I can join m10s clear parties

amber fable
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M10 clear is same as prog

limpid edge
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I did the last mech once, good enough

stray forge
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my finally achieved pf clear was with a mch

limpid edge
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How does mch stack against melees in DPS in m10s?

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I would think better in average

sick reef
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welp saw enrage at 25% ๐Ÿ”ฅ so someone is being a bum (all dps died)

amber fable
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I see party going 3 range comp

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For m10

pine holly
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But otherwise it seemed tight

pine holly
limpid edge
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Was watching Ken do m11s in pf and he's been stuck on it for 3 days in NA

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But EU he cleared once pretty quickly

amber fable
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Rng

dull drum
amber fable
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Promise was hardest hmmm

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Or was playerbase just bad...

limpid edge
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Pwomise

random needle
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I'm in e12s now in my old content static and it's hard as hell (at least as healer)

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Junction Shiva GIGACOOKED

amber fable
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Man junction titan was wall even on unsync

random needle
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I'm trusting my other static peeps to know how to solve that because I wasn't there for e4s

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It still hurts a lot too, but not as much as Shiva did

loud nymph
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lions prog? Shiva meme

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enrage prog? Shiva memes

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titan bombs prog? Shiva memes

alpine plover
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mb

loud nymph
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P2 basic relativity prog? Nope, you're going to get shoved back into p1 and forced to do more Shiva memes

shy obsidian
pine holly
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Wasn't e11 tough or something

zealous meteor
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doesnt exist

loud nymph
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e11 wasn't so bad until you got to cycles

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cycles was

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Funโ„ข

thin fox
pine holly
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Oops I greeded on weapons. Dead

random needle
pine holly
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Oh, that might do it

remote gate
# dull drum

reminder that LHW was also when picto was at its peak strength and m4s kills happened a minute prior to enrage because of it

random needle
pine holly
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Unfortunately I was new and sucked so I didnt have any reference point for how easy LHW was

dull drum
alpine plover
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yea pf was gated just by sunrise

dull drum
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week 1 LHW is worth as much as horse shit

pine holly
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I dont think I saw Raining Cats after week 2

loud nymph
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After utopian sky

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You mostly skipped it later in the tier

random needle
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Wait isn't Utopian Sky the FRU mech?

loud nymph
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well whatever it was called in e11

random needle
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I think the e11 one is Prismatic Deception

loud nymph
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it was the same shit

random needle
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Yeah

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Where the whole arena gets foggy and people have to body language where the safe lanes are

loud nymph
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Run out to wall at clock spot and jump / run in if arm up

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it's all the same shit

random needle
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Funnily enough, my group ended up walled for longer at Prismatic than cycles iirc

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Though that's because half the party knew the solution already, and we let someone who didn't know already come up with perhaps the worst strat possible

finite plank
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today i learned

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a synced down overgeared whm can definitely heal a gnb in scaevan gear doing the mega pull on the last stretch in mt gulg

shy obsidian
rain geode
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Do I try and sneak in a M9S reclear before work

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yes

sleek moon
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A far cry from stormblood

finite plank
#

meanwhile orogenics...

#

there are no mega pulls, but it does feel like it'd hurt a lot

#

not sure

#

i forgot how was it

shy obsidian
#

STUPID FUCKING AUTOMANTOISE

sly basin
clear plume
#

Guys Iโ€™m going to be famous my pov is going to be on wtfdig uwucarby

jolly flume
clear plume
#

We are going to be teaching pf how to do watersnaking but ranged do both fire baits bc why tf does the raidplan have melees and tanks doing them meow

#

But yeah mainly just to get a pov of the movement for people to look at how to not die

mossy eagle
sleek moon
dull drum
#

8 sec vuln up when you get hit by fire bait

#

unless you mean manipulating the initial snaking config to force 4 ranged onto one color then that would work in cases where the ranged group gets fire

clear plume
#

Idk we were just asked to try it

loud nymph
#

even if you do that you can just get the melees all to have fire debuff

clear plume
#

Owner of wtfdig is in our discord and wants to make a guide for the website for it if it doesnโ€™t work we just do ranged ranged melee melee ig

dull drum
#

my only main concern is if the shared TB from fire dude is based on general enmity or it has to be top aggro on fire debuffed people

clear plume
#

Iโ€™m ngl Iโ€™ve never not seen both busters in that phase be invulned

dull drum
#

right but im saying if you want the ranged to purely be fire baits then you have to check how that works otherwise someones gonna die if it only targets the TB on fire debuffed top aggro

worn bluff
#

there should be a channel of strategy board links

#

or a website if there isn't already

dull drum
#

i mean ig you could cover and share if theres a pld in comp

loud nymph
#

if there's some way to guarantee someone getting a specific debuff then I'd love to know it

#

but I don't think it's possible

#

and that means the entire plan falls apart

dull drum
#

i mean the LP config alr exists so that an entire LP gets the same color or opposite together

loud nymph
#

right

dull drum
#

so i see the vision

loud nymph
#

but if you somehow set up lp1 to be TTMM and lp2 to be HHRR with the hopes that lp2 gets fire

worn bluff
loud nymph
#

well, 50% of the time you're getting fucked by RNG there

dull drum
#

ok then cooked

random needle
#

I think part of the point of the mechanic is that you have to learn both the fire and water versions

sleek moon
#

im not seeing the vision

jagged aspen
loud nymph
jagged aspen
#

both involve TBs that require tanks of diff color

loud nymph
#

reading context is hard

worn bluff
#

i wonder if you could do a more uptime version if you take jumps N and S

#

with everyone else middle hitting blue

random needle
#

Imagine if you joined a 10 reclear and everyone only knows how to do fire

worn bluff
#

little tighter spacing

dull drum
worn bluff
dull drum
#

would be crazy yeah

#

i actually pray for fire as tank you know that

stray forge
dull drum
#

so i can take the DOT and aim it if it gets fucked

sleek moon
random needle
#

The way it's designed basically forces you to learn both the fire and water movements unless you want every pull to be a coin flip

stray forge
#

Itโ€™s just that no one really uses strategy board seriously so itโ€™s full of the joke boards lol

loud nymph
sleek moon
#

and id never want that in pf lol

clear plume
dull drum
clear plume
#

But using an invuln and eating bleed is fine

mortal flower
clear plume
#

You get forever to be healed

dull drum
#

yeah the bleed doesnt hurt too bad with mit

mortal flower
#

Born 2025
Born again 2026

worn bluff
#

what if you just did bettersnaking but put T/M closer to mid, like near the original 4 puddles

#

and had H bait first

rain geode
#

another week of no loot I do kinda hate the loot system of savage

worn bluff
#

same

rain geode
#

I even got an 88

stray forge
#

Are you supposed to roll on everything in pf

#

I won something so didnโ€™t roll on anything else

worn bluff
#

i think if i go another tier with losing almost every roll i might have to revisit if i want to raid in PF anymore

rain geode
#

I just role on everythign theres no rules

worn bluff
#

in NA you can roll on everything

stray forge
#

But I saw one person won everything else hyperlmfao

#

Wtf

#

I feel stupid now

clear plume
worn bluff
#

you could choose to be nice and pass stuff but you don't have to, and most don't

random needle
#

JP has certain etiquette with loot iirc, but in NA, you take whatever you can get

rain geode
#

I miss OSRS splits which are entirely different from splits in FFXIV

stray forge
#

Inb4 wow loot system

clear plume
#

And then you have a nice prio of โ€œback people bait first, inners bait secondโ€

stray forge
#

Personal loot lookge

dull drum
#

only losers dont win gear in pf

#

๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก

stray forge
#

Y-yeah! Loser!

sleek moon
rain geode
#

I wonder what the actually BIS is since im planning on very slightly deviating from it

worn bluff
#

nvm

#

idk why they make T bait first either

sleek moon
#

idk either

#

that one is stupid

worn bluff
stray forge
#

This game doesnโ€™t have enough stat quirks for bis sheets to matter does it? Itโ€™s just prio your best secondaries? Or are there diminishing returns?

rain geode
#

I mean its not super complicated but there is enough going on you dont instantly know

worn bluff
#

you might as well go for bis though unless there's some other reason

worn bluff
worn bluff
#

bis takes into account stat tiering so it's more specific

rain geode
#

I dunno I honestly kinda like having the pinch of extra defenses from having full 790 so Im not using a 780 ring lmao

jagged aspen
#

i.e you get more crit chance at 3200 and then at 3230 and anything between is wasted

rain geode
#

I get that piety is a bad stat Im not going that out of my way to avoid it

jagged aspen
#

which makes some item combinations very slightly better

rain geode
#

and since Im in PF having a little extra piety for rezzed is kinda nice

stray forge
#

Oh I was surprised that healers socket dps material lol

loud nymph
#

why wouldn't they

#

everyone is a DPS, after all ๐Ÿ™‚

sleek moon
jagged aspen
#

oh thats normal, bis sets maximize damage

sleek moon
#

๐Ÿค“

stray forge
#

Seemsโ€ฆkind of flawed as a system but whatever

jagged aspen
#

healing and survivong isnt supposed to be a concern at max gear level

stray forge
#

Just makes an entire set of materia useless

loud nymph
#

healers are going to spend about 90% of any given fight pressing their damage buttons

rain geode
#

Point being I dont want to run double tome ring

loud nymph
#

and crit/det materia also makes heals stronger

rain geode
#

and I dont mind having a small amount of Piety

jagged aspen
#

if you mean like piety being useless, yea. every mmo has "useless" build options

sleek moon
#

thats fine

#

i assure you good healers can 99% with a piety ring

#

shit's rough out there

stray forge
#

Thatโ€™s fair, I just thought they would scale damage on piety or something that makes more sense

loud nymph
#

they should

rain geode
#

Im not gonna go out of my way to get it but if theres a crit piety piece its fine

loud nymph
#

but sqex in their infinite wisdom has chosen not to do that ๐Ÿ™‚

#

(it is in fact not wisdom at all)

#

(it is insanely stupid)

mortal flower
sleek moon
#

lets make tenacity det but worse

loud nymph
#

What's really funny is that up to, like, a few years ago we had this exact conversation about tenacity

#

Then they made tenacity actually buff damage

mortal flower
loud nymph
#

Not enough to make it super worthwhile, but at least enough to make it not a dead stat

sleek moon
#

its precursor was worse in every conceivable way

loud nymph
#

Yet they refuse to do the same with piety

sleek moon
#

parry

jagged aspen
dull drum
#

gnb

mortal flower
#

Break this, break that

jagged aspen
#

piety kinda has a use since you can run oom, but youre supposed to play around that

mortal flower
#

How about you break out of your shell and go outside?

sleek moon
mortal flower
sleek moon
#

like equipping pants with 299 DET gives you 1.5% dmg increase, 299 TEN pants give you 1.2%

#

meanwhile PIE is an actual dead stat for damage

jagged aspen
#

oh they actually have tenacity XII meld

#

just realized we get XIV melds soon huh

jolly flume
#

I always thought piety should just be baked into spellspeed to offset the higher mp consumption

#

most pointless stat of all time as it is

sleek moon
#

promote this man to game designer

jagged aspen
#

ye like rogues in wow had energy regen scale with haste

stray forge
#

thats just chiyo

jolly flume
#

like

#

I really enjoy playing fast sets for their feel

#

but there is no way I can bring one into prog

#

that kinda blows

rapid whale
#

if piety was a 2x effective all-in-one crit/det hybrid stat but only for outgoing heals would ppl consider melding it for prog

jagged aspen
#

thats probably something that can be calculated

#

by looking how many gcd heals are used in early clear logs and whether they can be replaced

jolly flume
#

it would still be a comfort stat because the fights have to be tuned for min mit to be clearable and that would include that stat right

#

but that would still be more of a reason than mp

jagged aspen
#

but people use gcd heals shields, if you can comfortably recover without thats just damage gain

inland ore
#

Healer bis I'm going for has 3 raid accessories. Won 2/3 of them week 1. Won the exact one I was missing week 2.

#

Sometimes lucky I guess.

rain geode
copper eagle
#

Iโ€™m cooked

rapid whale
#

anyone know the ilvl cut off for "you capped tomes every week" after reset

copper eagle
#

Imma start m9s this week

rapid whale
#

is it 774 now

copper eagle
#

Ngl chat I didnโ€™t touch the game again after doing normal got busy TT

jolly flume
rapid whale
#

worst case u got friends for book

copper eagle
#

I just grabbed some crafted and like a tome piece

#

I want to tonight but I got an even for the Uma community for VRC

sleek moon
copper eagle
#

Idk how but my ass became staff there

sleek moon
#

Since different costs and all

finite plank
#

mmm, dcrit cleaves

copper eagle
#

So surely

jagged aspen
jagged aspen
#

wait no

#

its still 774, you need 5 items

rapid whale
#

oka

jagged aspen
#

which you can have if you didnt buy chest/pants

boreal pumice
#

whys your ilvl low? my tome gear has piety on it , poor thing mewpaissa

rain geode
#

I really shouldnt but I think Im gonna take a break from M10S tonight

echo ibex
#

16 mil for m10 damn that's nice

inland ore
#

For SCH I only needed 4 weeks of tome, which put me at i773. Maybe I would have bought an extra ring if I had won the accessory augment, but if I had not won anything then i774 would have locked me out.

jolly flume
#

just gotta cap my alt this week and im done

#

thank god

tough gorge
#

I got ex wep, tome chest, 3 tome accessories, I'm at 774
malding bc my whm buddy won so much shit this week he's like 779 atm
(jk I'm happy bc he got gear and pf randos didn't)

sleek moon
#

ngl this tier being so late feels weird with tomes

tough gorge
#

even with 773 774 m11s is so tight on the dps

#

I'm so lucky I killed it in 2 pulls after days of straight dogshit

sleek moon
#

i dont think they took the extra tomes into account for 9, but they def did for 11

tough gorge
#

sge had hidden logs and tomes, asked how can I trust you then
he immediately provided me with an fflogs page confirming he's on enrage

jolly flume
#

this is my final week of tomes for healer

boreal pumice
#

paissasquint then why hide your logs

random needle
sleek moon
#

i just need tome ring and feet

#

and getting one of those 2 this week

tough gorge
jagged aspen
#

i need 9 weeks of tomes ๐Ÿ˜‚

sleek moon
#

gonna have to sit out and wait for upgrade items for weeks

echo ibex
#

Me needing 2 months worth of tomes still

random needle
#

I think this week I get the boots, then next week is my last week (I get ring)

stray forge
#

I have my logs unlisted just because why would I show logs where I didnt clear

random needle
#

I'll probably still wanna keep getting more since I get the sensation I'll want a tome weapon though

stray forge
#

but i think it still shows my prog on tomestone

boreal pumice
loud nymph
jagged aspen
#

i got tome neck for prog bc it was a big upgrade but not bis, and tome weapon this week

loud nymph
#

So hiding logs doesn't serve much purpose for that

jolly flume
#

hiding logs is like

#

idk why you'd do it

boreal pumice
#

sus

worn bluff
#

tomestone has a setting now to show your % progress even if your activity is hidden

jolly flume
#

i'd rather see straight greys than hidden

stray forge
#

I have mine unlisted

trim frost
#

hidden is more sus to me yeah

boreal pumice
#

just makes you think you got boosted

stray forge
#

I want to see an analysis of how im doing

worn bluff
#

i hid my casual activity so no one would see me running P11N 200 times for orchestrion rolls

stray forge
#

but dont want to just upload logs of other people without their permission

#

idk theres a lot of reasons imo lol

jolly flume
#

i've had some people tell me they hide their logs because they're "fixing" them and i'm like dude what

jolly flume
#

you do not have to be this secretive and ashamed of some bad logs

#

it isn't that deep

trim frost
#

oh damn

worn bluff
trim frost
#

i only had 64 pulls on tyrant thatโ€™s p good

worn bluff
#

that's just what was logged

sleek moon
#

afaik the prog tracker thing only tracks public logs

shy obsidian
#

Broโ€™s magics are for he to wield

sleek moon
#

if you care to see how many pulls it took to clear

rain geode
#

I dont care that much about parses but it does feel nice to see an even higher number

sleek moon
stray forge
#

im not ashamed of my logs I've literally posted that im a gray parser in here ๐Ÿ˜ญ

although in a few days I've managed to fix my shit and now im almost a blue parser

shy obsidian
#

met a celebrity today

boreal pumice
#

?

rain geode
#

Im ashamed of my logs but I just post them anyway because like who cares

trim frost
#

as much as i lament having straight greens so far im attributing it to just needing more gear honestly

undone tide
#

just got first 2 reclears done

boreal pumice
#

washed

rain geode
#

I doing it in PF its randomo if I clear or not

jolly flume
#

you're so cool can I have your babies

trim frost
#

and the fact that a lot of people havenโ€™t cleared 2/3 yet so i need the shitters to boost my parses

undone tide
#

for what itโ€™s worth by the way i thought these were both shit runs but iโ€™m gearing carried

trim frost
#

w1 is like
did u win gear / r u in static

and then the following weeks are largely did u win gear again

#

after that i feel like itโ€™s a little more performance heavy

rain geode
#

I am also coming to the realization that Im probably to hard on myself

jolly flume
#

I just don't parse on healer

#

isn't worth the effort

#

put the succor in the bag

#

get 90+

#

continue to live life

jaunty pulsar
#

got some idiots in my leveling roulette who are trolling and refuse to continue

boreal pumice
#

do the adlo combo

#

rants is down there

jaunty pulsar
#

should I just leave?

boreal pumice
#

idk very random

normal summit
#

What happened before they started refusing to continue?

trim frost
boreal pumice
#

wait chad is typing everyone shh

loud nymph
#

trolling how

trim frost
#

counterpoint:

jaunty pulsar
#

one is doing play dead emote and just chilling while the other confused roulette with a cafe

#

but hopefully they'll continue

loud nymph
dull drum
jaunty pulsar
dull drum
#

idk why that replied to wol

jaunty pulsar
#

if someone left I can just leave without penalty IIRC?

boreal pumice
#

yep

undone tide
jolly flume
alpine plover
#

hi hector

trim frost
jaunty pulsar
#

hi hector

trim frost
kind elm
#

bye hector

undone tide
normal summit
jolly flume
#

watashia wouldn't place that many soils on scholar

jolly flume
dull drum
#

pt sure im tank ready

jolly flume
#

that fight hurts like a bitch

rain geode
#

Speaking of Healer parses actual WHM moment

undone tide
dull drum
trim frost
jolly flume
#

pants: soiled

loud nymph
alpine plover
trim frost
#

lemme check

alpine plover
#

for arenasplit

jolly flume
#

let's see those hps parses

normal summit
#

I use kindred markers for the rest of the guide and show outer corner safe.

trim frost
#

whm

#

wait their name is zai xianggang thats fire

jolly flume
trim frost
#

hps

jolly flume
#

LOLLL

rain geode
jolly flume
#

your whms deserve medals

#

rare occasion

alpine plover
clear plume
#

Iโ€™m the pld (I donโ€™t press sheltron)

rain geode
#

Do heal parses cut out overheal?

rain geode
#

I realize I actually have no idea how heal parses work

dull drum
#

raw steel trophy

trim frost
#

wait

dull drum
#

๐Ÿ™ˆ

trim frost
#

whathefuck

undone tide
#

wait i think itโ€™d be cool if lionheart combo gave a shield

jolly flume
#

why would it

dull drum
normal summit
kind elm
#

hector can you make OSRS raid guides that would be really helpful for me

#

(/j)

clear plume
#

I lied actually my pld healing parses are fire

dull drum
#

i did outer corner ln for the first time felt pretty comfy cant lie

clear plume
trim frost
#

ok nvm i thought that meant they didnt use blade combo for some reason but they did

dull drum
#

been doing inners this whole time and i swear people get clipped 24/7

sleek moon
#

The toxic raidplan randomly changing markers on one single slide still eats the cake

#

Why would anyone do that

jolly flume
#

we have different markers where the center of the edge is safe

alpine plover
normal summit
rain geode
#

Watching M11S I was pretty scared but after watching the guide Im like "yeah I can probably do this.

clear plume
#

How about adventure quest? I am really stuck on the devourer fight

daring pine
#

chat

#

my tummy hurts

rain geode
sleek moon
#

I hope they don't fix the cheese that rinon posted tbh

normal summit
ember quartz
random needle
#

Well, the DPS check will ease up in coming weeks as people get better gear

rain geode
#

I will say looking at trophy weapons makes me go "Im really glad I went with SCH and not SGE"

jolly flume
random needle
#

But yeah, the fight looks pretty brutal mechanically

rain geode
#

but Im getting ahead of myself I still need to find a PF group that can get through M10S

ember quartz
random needle
normal summit
#

It was just exhausting needing a very clean run. We had a 0.06% wipe which was pretty demoralising

rain geode
#

But against my better judgement I want to go to pokemon league tonight so Im taking a day off M10S

clear plume
#

I feel that Hector my group had a 0.02% p12-2 enrage 2 days before we cleared

sleek moon
clear plume
#

Leader really regretted not feeding the Sam harder he wonโ€™t make that mistake

rain geode
#

Today is just gonna be M9S reclear, Tell-retell and capping tomes

loud nymph
#

that 5

clear plume
loud nymph
#

classic

sleek moon
#

That log had one death (vpr) and one melee missed one pot

jolly flume
#

8 DDs and I ended the fight on a rapture because I thought I could get the last misery off

#

mb team

normal summit
#

The boss instantly going untargetable is a total troll move

#

makes you think you have 1 second more than you actually do

sleek moon
#

Yeah everyone's final hit would not register

#

Even if they go off

limpid edge
#

Gotta let the opps win

stray forge
#

Whatโ€™s Pokรฉmon league

rapid whale
#

wahoo actually got em all done decently

#

now i get the whole week to prog 12

jolly flume
#

I learned my lesson the second time around

rain geode
limpid edge
rain geode
#

We do ours on Tuesdays

rapid whale
#

pokemon seems like it should be the most wholesome community but scalpers make it the most toxic

stray forge
#

Sorry I donโ€™t know what came over me

rapid whale
#

nintendo games

jolly flume
#

dude my hps lol

#

double shield moment of all time

rain geode
rain geode
rapid whale
#

ah so while th ey make the online space sh itty they dont actually show up to those

#

that's good

rain geode
#

I mean its for players mostly so like what would they do lmao

rapid whale
#

try and find customers for boxes idk

rapid whale
clear plume
#

Stores donโ€™t really let you sell inside of them

rapid whale
#

THE LITERAL LEAST AMOUNT OF HEALING ON THE HARDEST FIGHT

#

ABSOLUTE BIBLICAL GREED

clear plume
#

Theyโ€™d rather you buy from the store

rain geode
#

99/100 times Pokemon leagues take place in LGS's so that would not fly at all

rapid whale
#

YOU ARE THE MONSTER OUR PASTORS WARNED US OF

#

LMFAOO

jolly flume
rapid whale
#

HAHAHAHAH

#

JUST PET THE BUNNY CHIYO

rain geode
jolly flume
#

hey man

#

he likes pressing the heal buttons

#

if hes gonna press the heal buttons im gonna press the damage buttons

rapid whale
#

now u gotta get

#

r1 combined dmg

#

and you can be as cool as my healers

jolly flume
#

ty sir my parse stands on your shoulders

stray forge
#

25% active?

rapid whale
#

its literally that "my hands look like this so hers can look like this" meme

#

holy fuck

#

i love it

craggy marsh
rain geode
#

I succor every raidwide

jolly flume
#

that IS his idea of fun

craggy marsh
jolly flume
#

I had to convince him

#

to let me eprog some raidwides in p1

rapid whale
#

your coheal a bottom fr

jolly flume
#

so I could have toxikons for the knockbacks

rapid whale
#

LOL

#

so fkn real

clear plume
#

โ€œBro I have free heals still why am I seeing concitโ€

rapid whale
#

triple hands pattern? guess i'll get 80% uptime this run

jolly flume
#

we can def work some stuff out better tho

#

we had it pretty well planned out up until idyllic

#

and then during idyllic it was just

#

good luck

sleek moon
jolly flume
#

vibes based healing

clear plume
#

Tbf idyllic is very much

stray forge
#

Could you technically run one less healer

#

Or does that mess with loot

clear plume
#

Both heal and trust one of you will hit the defamations

jolly flume
#

well yes but it's better than me losing a gcd AND my cohealer losing a gcd, because we need shields on it anyways

craggy marsh
#

Bless phase 2 for showing modbeasts what they really look like

#

Clone shows your true self uwucarby

clear plume
#

Modbeasts werent seeing p2 week 1

stray forge
#

My true self is barefoot

rain geode
clear plume
#

They donโ€™t play the game like that

stray forge
craggy marsh
jolly flume
clear plume
#

Ik a lot who raid and mod

#

But not modbeaat

zealous meteor
stray forge
#

I guess it depends on your definition of mod beast

stray forge
#

But it makes sense that the ones who play the most also mod the most lmao

rapid whale
#

anyone with a higher mb than me = mod beast

#

i dont use any therefore everyone is a mod beast

clear plume
rain geode
#

I could not play the game as a mod beast

rapid whale
#

wdym u dont wanna look like imvu character w/ boob slider 9999?

clear plume
#

Like using a ui mod that breaks on patch drop kind of bad for HC prog

stray forge
rapid whale
#

o do those not break on major patches

rain geode
rapid whale
#

mb

rain geode
#

Im mostly kidding

stray forge
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I donโ€™t really like any of the vanilla viera hairs

clear plume
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People use like, a body mod, sometimes hair, but I donโ€™t even see animation mods much in the cerp syncshell

rapid whale
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god can u imagine using papachin stuff in hc world prog

zealous meteor
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my miqo had minimum boob slider

rapid whale
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'sorry chat i couldnt see wher ei was standing because my character was 10ft in the air'

clear plume
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I use the dnc one that gives me guns and thatโ€™s it

rain geode
random needle
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I think both male and female Hroths should have chest sliders that go to 200

trim frost
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never used a syncshell and never will

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most i've ever done pairingwise is add a couple friends on mare

stray forge
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This game has a boob slider?

zealous meteor
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my lala also has minimum boob size but there is literally zero difference between 0 and 100

stray forge
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I donโ€™t even remember

zealous meteor
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idk why lalas even have it

rapid whale
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i made my miqo's alts boobs too large and they look unnatural now

clear plume
rapid whale
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but aint no way im getting a fanta for an alt

stray forge
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How do they look unnatural

clear plume
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Wouldnt you have the ul dah one still

rapid whale
stray forge
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Iโ€™m pretty sure my boobs are bigger than any size miqo can have โ˜ ๏ธ

rapid whale
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like

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theya re so spherical

zealous meteor
rapid whale
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they look unnatural

zealous meteor
clear plume
zealous meteor
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i see

trim frost
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ohh my gohhh oh subscribe

stray forge
clear plume
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Iโ€™m not a furry I like my women tailless

stray forge
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Hairless tail

clear plume
stray forge
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I have

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And Iโ€™ve pet a sphinx

clear plume
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Iโ€™ve never been to Egypt too hot

stray forge
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No one wanted to play with the sphinx at the cat cafe